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Speaker 2: All right, guys, Welcome back, Welcome back, Earn your Lesion

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Speaker 2: Podcast Episode six, Time Flies. This is our sixth edition.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to cover.

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Speaker 3: This week, A lot going on, A lot going on in.

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Speaker 2: Our world for sure, a lot going on. So first

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Speaker 2: of all, before we start, we want to say thank

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Speaker 2: you guys for rocking with us, thank you for your feedback,

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Speaker 2: thank you for your DMS. Your message is very encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the UK, shout out to South Africa

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Speaker 2: and all of our international listeners all over the world.

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Speaker 4: That's always love when we get the international feedback because

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Speaker 4: it's like, wow, the reach is so strong. It's like

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Speaker 4: extremely humbling, and it's finding that not just here in

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Speaker 4: the United States we're listening, but the message is being spread.

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Speaker 3: So that's dope.

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Speaker 2: That's dope. It's definitely dope for sure. So all right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna jump right into it with the number one

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Speaker 2: sports topic of the Weekion Williamson and the Blue Devils.

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Speaker 2: So for anybody that is not in tune of what's

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Speaker 2: were selling for I think ten up to ten thousand

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Speaker 2: so they were actually comparable to resale prices for Super

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Speaker 4: According to vivid Seats, the prices, some of the price

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Speaker 4: was actually higher than the lowest super Bowl ticket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. So the game comes and everybody's there,

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Speaker 2: Spike Lee's there, David Robinson is there, President Obama's there.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, and then, in a freak accident the

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Speaker 2: we want to wish him, you know, speedy recovery. That

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Speaker 2: the whole conversation brought into a lot of different things

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Speaker 2: And really the number one thing is the revenue that

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Speaker 3: Right? Because this guy is obviously going to be.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're going to do hopefully with this. Right,

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Speaker 3: The field gets trindled down, but the money that is gross.

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Speaker 4: So CBS has a few channels and networks. Obviously TNT

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Speaker 2: And they break it down so each conference gets a piece,

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Speaker 4: So example of a conference would be like the ACC

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Speaker 2: So then from there it's up to the conference to

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Speaker 2: So but the problem is that when people say it's

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Speaker 2: just basketball, but the NC Double A has a bunch

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's like the kid who plays golf or

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Speaker 2: And then there's a thing called Title nine.

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Speaker 2: So Title nine came in years ago, and that made

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Speaker 3: Whatever sports you're offering, you have to offer.

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Speaker 2: So now that cut the budget even more, and now

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Speaker 2: No, it's different. So, okay, we had a we looked

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Texas is football is king. Right, there's the reason why

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Speaker 2: So they made one hundred and twenty million, right, twenty

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Speaker 3: Gonna get them. So number four, you say Alabama, they

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Speaker 4: Then number three Michigan we have twenty five million in scholarships.

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Speaker 2: The Texas Longhorns has their own network.

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Speaker 3: So that's crazy. Like that is in itself.

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Speaker 2: You have Bowl games, you have TV contracts, you have

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Speaker 2: No, it's different, it's different. And then can we just

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Speaker 2: So we have to talk about the coaches how much

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Speaker 3: Right? So the coaches are the guys who bring the

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Speaker 2: So the top four, how much did the top football

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Speaker 2: Eight point three million University of Alabama. Nick Saban made

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Speaker 3: So, coach k made eight points so nine million dollars

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Speaker 2: But so gotta go to want more category stadiums, right,

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Speaker 2: So the largest how much how many people do you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna say one hundred and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Thousand, one hundred and nine thousand, Michigan and Arbor Michigan University.

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Speaker 2: The football stadium holes one hundred and nine thousand. They

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Speaker 3: Hole, there's plenty that don't hold on arena and so like.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the scholarships are one. The coaching and staffing

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Speaker 2: But you know what the best part about this whole

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Speaker 3: Soot that applot twist.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the craziest part. All of this money

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Speaker 2: That's a different conversation. Man, Now we have to go

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Speaker 4: But personal you know what, I'm gonna start the personal

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Speaker 3: Were in school. Yeah, I'll never forget that conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm playing March Madness.

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Speaker 2: So prior to my career business, I.

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Speaker 2: Little known fact. I was a Division one basketball player, right,

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Speaker 2: familiar with sports, EA Sports is video games. That's they

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Speaker 4: They made well NBA a lot used to be thing,

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Speaker 2: So they had so EA Sports used to have video

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Speaker 2: They they had their name, but they had their likeness.

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Speaker 2: So when was that like two thousand and When was

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Speaker 2: I was using you in the game, and yeah, he

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Speaker 2: We wasn't thinking that they was using us and we

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Speaker 2: that's a different story. Shout shout out at Obannon.

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Speaker 3: So they have people who only know at Obannon for this.

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Speaker 3: But this guy was like the national player.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know who Ed O'Bannon is do your research.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety five UCLA National Champ, Player of the years, legend,

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Speaker 3: Look at that, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Bad, but it just goes to show you that there's

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Speaker 2: But but we can't act like a nonprofit organization that

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Speaker 4: It's the only thing amateur about this is that they

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Speaker 2: It's a free trial.

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Speaker 3: But in other sports. That doesn't hold true.

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Speaker 2: I went to school with Freddie you do. Highly suspicious.

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Speaker 2: You know he wasn't fourteen. I don't know. That's a

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Speaker 4: Absolutely all right. So we're gonna move into the into

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Speaker 4: because the settlement in a sense means that there's some.

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Speaker 3: Form of guilt that the NFL had.

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Speaker 4: Now we'll never know because of the terms of the

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Speaker 2: It's different. Yeah. But even before we even go into that,

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Speaker 2: It's rumored that he got a hundred million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saying between sixty eighty million.

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Speaker 2: if you think about it as thirty two NFL teams, right,

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Speaker 2: so they divide that equally amongst each other. That's three

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Speaker 2: point two million per team, per.

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Speaker 3: Owner, which is not anything to them.

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Speaker 2: A dropping a bucket, A dropping a bucket, Right, So,

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Speaker 2: I mean the league made fourteen billion dollars last year.

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Speaker 3: And he lost his salary, right he was getting I

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Speaker 2: So all right, so Colin Kaepernick, before we even go

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Speaker 2: into the plot twist on it, ratings are down, yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: So from so Cap starts his protest for social injustice,

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Speaker 4: specifically police brutality in twenty sixteen, and he's out twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: So the ratings go down for two years in a row. Now,

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Speaker 4: last year the ratings did go up five percent for

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Speaker 4: the NFL, but a lot of that could be contributed

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Speaker 3: I mean, game, the Super Bowl actually did go down ratings,

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Speaker 3: and some people are chieving it.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year was one hundred and three million people.

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Speaker 2: That was a seven year low. Yeah, So fi year

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Speaker 2: was ninety eight million, Yeah, which was a low, eleven

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Speaker 2: year low in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 3: So so some people attributing to that to the Kaepernick effect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we don't know, but probably it had something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean people are on social media saying, look, we

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Speaker 4: stay with CAP, and I think we've taken that stance

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Speaker 4: that we stay with CAP. And it's nothing against anybody

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Speaker 4: who is in the armed forces, Like we love and

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Speaker 4: support our armed forces and understand that their job is honorable,

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Speaker 4: but we are we're looking at it from both sides.

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Speaker 2: So the armed forces, that's what this whole thing was

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Speaker 2: spun into, right, Yeah, he was he was just CAF

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Speaker 2: was protesting for police police brutality, and people were saying,

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Speaker 2: this is not patriot How do we get to this

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Speaker 2: point with no no, no legitimate question. How do we

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Speaker 2: get to this point with armed forces?

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Speaker 3: We're got So when we grew up watching NBA and NFL,

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Speaker 3: this we didn't think about this. This is not something

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Speaker 3: we thought about.

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Speaker 2: It's new.

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Speaker 3: It's a new thing. It's like, over the past ten years,

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Speaker 3: it's become a.

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Speaker 2: When we say the thing, people don't know the national

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Speaker 2: anthem played before a game and televised. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 2: something that has always.

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Speaker 3: Happen, yeh.

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Speaker 4: So that started in two thousand and nine. Teams and

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Speaker 4: owners were saying, hey, we want to show signs of patriotism, right,

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Speaker 4: so how can we do that. Well, we'll come up

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Speaker 4: with a list of things we can do. We'll broadcast

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Speaker 4: a national anthem, we'll have flyovers, we'll have flags that

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Speaker 4: are field length, right, we'll have our players standing out

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Speaker 4: during the national anthem to show signs of patriots. And

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Speaker 4: they even start and people probably didn't realize this, but

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Speaker 4: they started to do surprise visits from troops who had

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Speaker 4: been overseas and they came home and surprised their families.

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Speaker 3: Little did people know that the Department of Defense was

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Speaker 3: paying for.

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Speaker 2: This, So plot twists. The Department of Defense paid the

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Speaker 2: NFL five point four million dollars between two thousand and

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Speaker 2: eleves in twenty fourteen. The National Guard paid six point

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Speaker 2: seven million between twenty and thirteen and twenty fifteen to

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Speaker 2: do these ceremonies, and it's in their budget as recruitment item.

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Speaker 2: So how did this all come about John McCain.

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Speaker 4: Ironically enough, so John and Senator Jeff Flake, both from

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Speaker 4: Jeff Flake.

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Speaker 2: But the reason why this is so ironic is that

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Speaker 2: John McCain rest in peace. He If you don't know

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Speaker 2: his story, obviously you probably heard of him, right. He

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Speaker 2: was a senator, he ran for president, he lost, but

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Speaker 2: he was also a pow for I think like seven

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Speaker 2: years in Vietnam and he broke his arms. They torched

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Speaker 2: him severe, right, So he came home and he became

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Speaker 2: endured by the public because he didn't he didn't he

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Speaker 2: didn't fold because they could have let him go because

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Speaker 2: John McCain's father, I think, was a politician, very powerful man,

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Speaker 2: and they actually offered him his freedom, but he said

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't go. Until all of his comrades were free. So,

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Speaker 2: long story short, John McCain is a war hero, right,

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Speaker 2: so he looks into this, him and Senator Jeff Flake,

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Speaker 2: who are both Republican senators, and they find paid patriotism.

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Speaker 2: So he is offended by this, right because he feels

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Speaker 2: that you can't pay for patriotism. You can't pay under

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Speaker 2: the gaze of this is just being done out of

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Speaker 2: the goodness of our hearts.

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Speaker 3: Where we are patriot that's why we're doing this.

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Speaker 2: You're paying NFL owners as a recruitment tool to recruit

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Speaker 2: to the armed services.

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Speaker 4: So a part of it is that they didn't only

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Speaker 4: play the NFL. They paid the NBA, they paid soccer

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Speaker 4: and Major League Baseball. But out of that budget, right,

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Speaker 4: So I think maybe six point nine they did in

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Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, six point one million of that six point

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Speaker 4: nine million went to the NFL, and they didn't even

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Speaker 4: go to all teams. It just went to the top

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Speaker 4: sixteen highest rated teams. So like the Giants, the Jets,

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Speaker 4: the Patriots, Washington.

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Speaker 2: It was so when they looked, so John McCain and

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Speaker 2: Jeff Flake look into it, right, and they find out

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Speaker 2: that there's one hundred and twenty two contracts between the

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Speaker 2: Pentagon and sports leagues that nobody knew about exactly. They

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Speaker 2: didn't make this public, They just found it. So when

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Speaker 2: they found out about it, they feel they need to

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Speaker 2: make it public. Right, so they have a whole investigation.

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Speaker 2: The pay patriotism thing comes up. John McCain vows to

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Speaker 2: change it. He doesn't because it doesn't change, but it's

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Speaker 2: still something that not a lot of people are fully

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Speaker 2: aware of. Ironically enough, the year that John McCain and

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Speaker 2: Jeff Flake made this investigation was twenty.

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Speaker 3: And sixteen, twenty fifteen, fifteen, next year.

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Speaker 2: And then the next year Colin Kaepernick starts to kneel

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so players weren't even required to come out before

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Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. They stayed in the locker room

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Speaker 3: during the national anthem.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't televised, but once the NFL realized that, hey,

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Speaker 4: people want to see this, they started charging.

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Speaker 3: They started charging ad dollars. So like it always comes right,

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Speaker 3: So is it is it patriotism or is it capitalism? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: So paid patriotism?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: If I could have broadcasting dollars like people paying for

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Speaker 4: ads and commercials, am I going to show the national anthem.

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Speaker 3: No, but if the federal government pays me more than

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Speaker 3: the commercials do, then I'll show it. Right.

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Speaker 4: So then people were an uproar, Hey, this guy is

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Speaker 4: kneeling during during the national anthem. Yeah, but ten years

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Speaker 4: even three years prior, guys were in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Who knew what they were doing? Who knows what they

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Speaker 4: were doing in the locker room?

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing and this is why. So this is

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Speaker 2: the thing, the whole theme behind our show. Right, So

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Speaker 2: we look at sports, entertainment and business, but we look

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Speaker 2: at the backstory because it always comes back to the money. Always,

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Speaker 2: it always comes back to the money somehow. Right, So

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Speaker 2: all of this was done because the NFL was paid

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Speaker 2: to do this.

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Speaker 3: And that it was part of our fabric.

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Speaker 4: Now now every game we watch the flag and again

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Speaker 4: it's nothing against our forces or military we love and support.

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Speaker 2: But and I'm not and I want to make this

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Speaker 2: clear too, I'm not saying that you shouldn't stand up

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Speaker 2: for the national anthem or you should stand up for

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Speaker 2: the national anthem. Everybody's entitled to do what they want.

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Speaker 2: We live, we live in a free country. But the

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Speaker 2: thing about it is, don't act like something is done

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Speaker 2: out of the goodness of your heart when you're getting

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Speaker 2: paid to do it. Marshall Lynch. Marshall Lynch, he said,

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Speaker 2: he said he never stood and they just realized this

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Speaker 2: two years ago. He said, I haven't stood in ten years.

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Speaker 4: It was because it wasn't a like, nobody paid attention

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Speaker 4: to it until one guy will two him and Eric

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Speaker 4: Reid decide that listen, we're gonna do a peaceful process

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Speaker 4: and look at the backlash from that.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, well yeah, do you have it, ladies.

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Speaker 3: And gentlemen, patriotism of capitalism?

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Speaker 2: You choose, all right, our last topic of discussions, hot topic.

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Speaker 2: We're going to fashion. We're going to fashion. We're going

658
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 2: to high end fashion. Gucci, Montclair. But we'll start with Gucci. Okay,

659
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Speaker 2: if you haven't been under the rock for the last

660
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: week and a half, you know that Gucci is in

661
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: deep water right now because they made a hurtleneck that

662
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: it's like a black face thing. It turns up and

663
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: it has red lips. I'm sure you've probably seen it.

664
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Okay, Then Montclair as

665
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: a Samball jacket, Yeah, you know what.

666
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: My clare is so disturbing. Last year they went in

667
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: the news for having the black face patch on the

668
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 4: sweatshirt last year. Okay, twenty eighteen. This year they said,

669
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: you know what will top it. We're gonna put black

670
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: faces all over a bubble jacket and put it out

671
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: for retail.

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00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay. Then Birdberry decides is a good idea to have

673
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: a hoodie with a noisance on it.

674
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're calling it the Nautical the nautical hoodie.

675
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh man. And then Proud of did something.

676
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: Pride had the monkey pendants in the window and they

677
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: were putting on their bag.

678
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: It had a big monkey displays having right.

679
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, al sharpedon came the whole big thing.

680
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Prior to that, we had H and M.

681
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: H and M had the coolest monkey in the junk

682
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: with a black kid wearing.

683
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: It, and they thought that was a good idea.

684
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So obviously this isn't a coincidence. Right, they're doing

685
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: this on purpose. So why are they doing it on purpose?

686
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different theories. There's a thing called

687
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: outrage marketing. I don't know if anybody's familiar with outrage marketing,

688
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: but that's pretty much you can kind of guess what

689
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: it is by the name where you just shock value. Right,

690
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: any publicity is good publicity. You just do crazy stuff,

691
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: you get your name out there, you get some backlash,

692
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: you apology, apologize, but it doesn't really hurt your brand,

693
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: and it hasn't really hurt their brand. Yeah, I mean

694
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: these companies brands because.

695
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: H and M.

696
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, H and M and eight last year April they

697
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: put out the coolest monkey sweatshirt and they saw a decline, temporary,

698
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 4: temporary client for two months, but they're twenty eighteen. Retail

699
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: sales were up five percent, so people still supporting a

700
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: brand that they were temporary outraged and people wanted answers,

701
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: and then people realize, you know what, these clothes are affordable.

702
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: Son, buy it.

703
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: We live in a disposable society, right, And people lack discipline,

704
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: so it boycott for a week and then they just

705
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: forget about it because something else comes about. So is

706
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: that why these companies are doing this? Because as I said,

707
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a coincidence.

708
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: How many times can we be slapping it and it's.

709
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: All high end fashion brands or H and M is

710
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: a high end fashion brand, but so Gucci and Prada

711
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Prada and Montclair and Birdberry. So now they're saying that, Okay,

712
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: it's a boycott on Gucci, right, I'm not apposed to that.

713
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: But Gucci is actually owned by a larger corporation, right,

714
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: the curring group, I believe it's called UH and they

715
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: own YSL, Balenciaga, Alexander McQueen, Gucci other brands as well.

716
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: So are you boycotting all of these brands as well?

717
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: Why are we wearing these brands.

718
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: To begin with? To begin with? Why are we wearing

719
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: these brands? Right? We love Tia one of my favorite rappers.

720
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna You're gonna hold that forever. I'm never gonna

721
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: let you.

722
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

723
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

724
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: In the South, I wasn't a big fan of Southern

725
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: hip hop music. I know we got a lot of

726
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: listeners in the South. I love the South, Atlanta, Florida.

727
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: We had that debate. I was a guy.

728
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: I love the South, but I wasn't huge on the

729
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: South hip hop until Ti. Because t I had, he

730
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: had swagy. I can relate to him and his lyrics.

731
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: He was a good lyricist, dope. I just like him.

732
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: I still like him, but I.

733
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Don't understand when he so he calls for a boycott,

734
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: and then he starts out his paragraph was saying, I'm

735
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: a seventh figure year customer. It's interesting because you have

736
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: a clothing line, yeah cool, which stands for a king

737
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: of oneself. You have a clothing line that stands that

738
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: the Akroman is a king of oneself, and you spend

739
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: seven figures a year with.

740
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: Gucci, another brand, Like I see it.

741
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: When you see these people outside, you would think, hey, heaby,

742
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: once in a while, I would sprinkle my own clothes on,

743
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: if not all the time, to promote.

744
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: My own brand.

745
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: It's confusing.

746
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's let's spend a million dollars.

747
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 4: It's very confusal in his comments, like look, why don't

748
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: you spend that million dollars trying to help another brand

749
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: get off the ground or put it in your own brand.

750
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. Yeah, And like I said, I

751
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: don't want to Bashti. I liked, I actually likes one

752
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: of one of the best. But I didn't understand that.

753
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: And I didn't understand a three month boycott. I don't

754
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: understand what do we do after the average person maybe

755
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: has one Gucci item, if that two, they buy a

756
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: Gucci item once every five years. It's not like you're

757
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: going grocery shopping. I think celebrities a lot of times

758
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: that I touch your reality three months it's like, you know,

759
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: you're not going to shop write or A and P.

760
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: Like that's what I'm saying, like the celebrities. So Future

761
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: said that he spends three three hundred thousand dollars a

762
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: month on clothing, Like what what are you buying?

763
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Why are you spending money on clothes when you can

764
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: get stuff.

765
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: For free exactly or create your own.

766
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a pretty disturbing issue, right.

767
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: And one one of the other things that they were

768
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: saying is that you know what these mistakes quote unquote

769
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: are happening because we're not represented at the top of

770
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: the creative chain when it comes to these high end

771
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: fashion right. But well, that's true, that that is true,

772
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: and we've recently seen Virgil take over at Louis Vaton.

773
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: So but how many times are you gonna Okay, if

774
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: I come into your house, right, I can't tell you

775
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: to feed me, to give me a blanket. You can

776
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: give me that if you want to, Like, you don't

777
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: have to treat me good. It's your house, right, Like

778
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: how many times can we demand somebody to treat us

779
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: appropriately instead of treating ourselves appropriate?

780
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 3: That so dap Dan, who is one of to create

781
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: directors at Gucci, like he is outraged by it.

782
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: Obviously he should and that Beudan's a legend for those

783
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: who don't know him, and he had to head the

784
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: CEO Gucci come to hallm to talk about the issues

785
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: that he's facing and demanded some action.

786
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: What is that going to do?

787
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I love that, but it sounded good to

788
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: kind of harlem and talk to.

789
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: Who can't who cares. And the thing about it is

790
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: the reason why the TI I think is interesting is

791
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Dad he by him saying he spends seven figures a

792
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: year on Gucci, It's not just saying that he spends

793
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: seven figures a yeah, Gucci brings up a larger issue

794
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: right where athletes, entertainers, rappers specifically rappers have given free

795
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: endorsements for years and companies have waked the benefits of it,

796
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: and they never they don't pay these people to do that. Right,

797
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: It's a status symbol and you feel that you're you know,

798
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: you're above somebody else by saying that you're wearing these

799
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: things or you're driving these cars.

800
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: I have made it to a certain Chris.

801
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: Remember Christal. Christal was a little known champagne brand for years,

802
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: and somehow I don't Big. I think Big was the

803
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: first one that championed Christal for some reason, I don't know.

804
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: He was also the first one to find Jacob to

805
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: Jewels a different story.

806
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so I mean he's champion it because it

807
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: was the most expensive thing.

808
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was weird that he just found it randomly.

809
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure like maybe somebody in it.

810
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: So they had gold bottles, that was So he starts

811
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: talking about Christal, and then jay Z starts to champion it,

812
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: and then it just goes crazy. Every rapper has gold

813
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: bottles Chrystal, and their sales went up. Don't quote me

814
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: on this, but it went up like three hundred percent

815
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: in the cost of a five year timeframe, directly related

816
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: to rappers. There's no argument about it. Then the CEO

817
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: of the company says he doesn't want to be associated

818
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: with those kind of people.

819
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Right, So what Then Jay comes out with the lyrics

820
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: I used to drink.

821
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: Then it's a band on Chris. Okay, so we've seen

822
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: this play before, absolutely, and so it didn't staying alone

823
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 2: with Jay Z. Were talked about jay a lot because

824
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: he's a cultural icon and very important person. So remember Iceberg,

825
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Iceberg man. That was. That was late nineties, late nineties,

826
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: Iceberg man iconic. When I was in high school, if

827
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: you had an Iceberg sweater, you were elite, elite level.

828
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: So Iceberg had the cartoon they had like Snoopy Snoopy?

829
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: Did they license that? They had to get that license, right,

830
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse Snoop. But those sweaters are like three hundred,

831
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. It was Cougie and Iceberg.

832
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: Iceberg was crazy.

833
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Iceberg was the shirts with two jay Z all he

834
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: was wearing was Iceberg. He had let me have the

835
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: lines that Iceberg e spress with IV on the elastic,

836
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: So everybody wanted Iceberg. Jay Z was talking about Iceberg

837
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: in every lyric. So you figure, Okay, we're spending so

838
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: much money, we're talking about it.

839
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: Let's go talk to these guys.

840
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: Why don't we try to get endorsement deal, Let's have

841
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: a meeting with them. So him and Dame go to

842
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: Iceberg and they try to get an endorsement, and they

843
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: say no, thank you. When we don't make these clothes

844
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: not interested, not interested, but that note.

845
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: Turns into something extremely profitable.

846
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: Yes, so they say no, and they decide to do

847
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: their own thing and make a clothing brand called Rockaware

848
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: based off of Rockefeller Records. Rockaware. Right, So now they

849
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: get the bright idea to start Rockawaar, which they probably

850
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: should have done from the beginning, but better late than ever.

851
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: Rockaway eight mil.

852
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: Eighteen months, yes, eight years later from the exception date.

853
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: They sell Rockaway for two hundred and four million dollars.

854
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: You see what happens when you when you stop asking

855
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: people for something and you do something for yourself.

856
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: And that same time what happens to Iceberg.

857
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: Though, fell off the cliff of the earth, disappeared for

858
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: they make it a research.

859
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're coming back now, but they disappear for fifteen

860
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: to twenty years.

861
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: Why disappear because the raptors stopped talking about them.

862
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: We don't have we don't want you, thank you, We'll

863
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: move on.

864
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: So I don't understand why this is such a hard

865
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: concept to understand. That's a perfect case study. They blew

866
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: up Iceberg. They approached Iceberg for Iceberg says no, They

867
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: start their own company. Iceberg falls off the cliff of

868
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: the earth. Their company that they start, they sell for

869
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: a quarter billion dollars.

870
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: In eight years.

871
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: I mean they did that with the look or too,

872
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Speaker 4: so like they did Crystal and that turned into Armadale

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Speaker 4: and that turned into a space saying, so I mean, alright, cool,

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Speaker 4: you don't want us to drink your stuff, We'll make

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Speaker 4: a home.

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Speaker 2: When will we learn when?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. Can we just on

878
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: burbery burbery really quickly? So the new hoodie is like

879
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: if you've seen a new hoodie, like there's no purpose, right.

880
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 4: So the creative director at Birdbury is now with Carlo

881
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: Tucci and he's been like known for in the fashion

882
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 4: world for many years. He was the creative director at

883
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: Givanci and Jay said his.

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Speaker 2: Name in the song too Ricardo.

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Speaker 3: So my thing is like, yes, is he from our culture? No?

886
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: But has he been around it enough? Absolutely right. He

887
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: collaborated with Kanye to do the Watch Thrown album cover.

888
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: He did the What's the album? What's the label?

889
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: He had music when they put out their Cruise Summer

890
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 4: he did the cover with him. He's collaborated with Jay

891
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: and Beyonce for their tours. Same thing with Rihanna. So

892
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: he's been around the culture enough. There's no reasonable explanation

893
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Speaker 4: why you would be the creative director. You saw that

894
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: this design was coming down the line, and you pressed, okay, not.

895
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Speaker 2: The worst part. The worst part that they apologized, and

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00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: in the apology they apologize suicide, suicide. We're sensitive about

897
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Speaker 2: the suicide.

898
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're not.

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But and then they say racial insensitivity, it's not

900
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: something to be joked. Thousands of black people were lynched

901
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: in the South over one hundred years. It's not racial insensitivity,

902
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: it's lynching. They don't even apologize for that aspect yet.

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Speaker 4: Well they I think that one of the models apologized

904
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: and they cut her quote a little bit, so she

905
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: did apologize. I mean, one of the models who was

906
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: in the show did not want it them to do this, right,

907
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: She was like, listen, don't don't do this. This is ridiculous.

908
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 4: You shouldn't walk down the runway with this. And they

909
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: went ahead and did it anyway, And then that was

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00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: part of her apology. That's suicide is not something that

911
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 4: we should joke with. And then the racial sensitivity, but again,

912
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Speaker 4: like who okay that to go down your runway?

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00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: You know what it doesn't even matter who cares. Stop

914
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: supporting it, yeah, or just take it. But I'm not

915
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: asking for an apology. Somebody don't know how to treat me.

916
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Speaker 2: I'm asking for them to apologize to me. They've already

917
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Speaker 2: showed me who they are.

918
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Speaker 4: I believe them when they show you who you are.

919
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: When somebody shows you who they are, you should believe them.

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Speaker 2: Save your apology. I'm good, all right, Okay, guys, thank

921
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Speaker 2: you for rocking with us. That is the end. But

922
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Speaker 2: before we leave, we want to announce some exciting news

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Speaker 2: we got. All you guys been asking about YouTube. It's here.

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Speaker 2: We are on YouTube now. I will be posting the link.

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Speaker 2: We will be posting a link on our page. I'll

926
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Speaker 2: post a link on my personal page. We already have

927
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Speaker 2: the YouTube channel. Earn your Leisure is YouTube. You can

928
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Speaker 2: go on. Please subscribe, Please subscribe, And then we will

929
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Speaker 2: have other stuff that we have coming down the pipeline

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some cool things coming down the way.

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Speaker 4: And before we go on this episode, I would be

933
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Speaker 4: remissed if we didn't wish you a happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: Man. Another year, another another year.

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Speaker 2: Of Pisces Nation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah before that, so happy birthday to you many more

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Speaker 4: of my brother and thank you all for rocking with

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Speaker 4: us again. Like we said, the feedback is always appreciated,

939
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: and the people who are reaching out from different parts

940
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Speaker 4: of the world keep them coming. Let us know where

941
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Speaker 4: you're from, and we'll definitely keep going as long as

942
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Speaker 4: y'all keep suppointing man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you peace.

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