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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: The World's a Biget Podcasts. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 4: I think we got probably a new favorite in the clubhouse. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 5: If there was like a coaching fight off, like I 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 5: think I'd probably go with this scupyter guy. 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 4: Oh he looks, he looks tough, he looks. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Mum, you know. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 4: He says, Well, we know. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: About the Wolf of Washington Street. Is that hard at work? 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: What was Washington Street? 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the name for you live in Sharon. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know. 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 6: It's rue Verden's Highway to something like that. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: You're really going to confuse everything played, you know, in 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: the eye or whatever. And as a traditional running back, 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: but they're almost like different positions than Corey Dillon. 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's why. That's why they call him, that's 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 6: why we're doing it's this way, don't That's why we 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 6: called him third. 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: That's the whole problem. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: But this is from Evan directly. I'm picking the Niners 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: bt dub. 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 6: Kyle Kyle shanantra offense by the way, Oh Jesus, it's 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 6: just the man. 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like. 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: Buffalo wow, I was speaking slang, you know. 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: And he's Patrick Mahomes. We know that the Chiefs have 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: also had trouble. 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 6: But he's only two against Brady. 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: We know that. 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: What does that have to do with anything? 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 6: We know he's winner, but how do you call him? 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: Winter Fred is Patriots Unfiltered presented by Toyota's official website. 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, well, come to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl here at Jillette Stadium, and even 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: though the NFL seasons come to a big stop after 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: the big game, NFL continues here on Patriots Unfiltered. We're 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna be with you all off season, every Tuesday and Thursday, 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: talking Patriots and football and whatever else is on our minds. 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do today. It's Deuce, it's Evan, Evan, 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: how you doing doing better? Welcome back, thank you, thank you? Okay, 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: still in morning over Sunday, but yeah, it's all right, 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: it's Paul. Yeah, there's a lot of people. We're gonna 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: get into a we're gonna get into all of the 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: super We'll talk about the game, we'll talk about the commercials, 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about halftime, uh, and whatever else is on 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: your mind today. Eight five five PATS five hundred is 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: the as taken Hotline. But before I forget, I want 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: to let people know that this Friday, Apple TV plus 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: is is dropping Patriots Dynasty the Dynasty and yes, so 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: they're going to drop the first two episodes, but even 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: more importantly, we have decided we're going to drop a 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: wrap up show, a recap. I think we're calling it, 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: uh Patriots Dynasty doc recap. Okay, so search for that 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast on Friday, but wait until 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: after you've watched the documentary, yeah, because you don't want 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: to get spoiled. And we will have a wrap up 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: show talking about what we watched. And so we're very 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: excited about that and every Friday for the next five weeks. 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: We're going to be doing that because Apple is going 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to be dropping two episodes at a time, and we 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: will wrap up those that episodes and have a new 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: wrap up show every Friday until the end the conclusion 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: of the documentary. So we're very excited. We did get 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: a sneak peek, and I'm telling you you're gonna like it. 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: It's gonna be uh Patriots porn. And I think even 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: people who aren't Patriots fans all over the world really 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: uh will find it interesting. So I can't wait. I 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about it and share our our 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: thoughts with you know everyone. You know, Paul and I 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: we lived through this, so I mean we were there 81 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: for the beginning, you know, at least for these first 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: two episodes. 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 7: Uh. 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: You know that's my favorite part of Washington's just when 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 5: Paul would point out, there's my. 86 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 6: Head's right, right, I pointed out every time. 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: I So this Friday, big day, big day for Patriots fans. 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: First two, right, the first two yep. So but let's 89 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: get let's get into it. Obviously, we want to talk 90 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: about the super Bowl. This is the first chance we've 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: had together to talk about it. My team didn't win, 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you know all those people said, how 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: can you bet against Patrick Mahomes? Boy, were they right? 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: How can you bet against Patrick Mahomes'. 95 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: Sorry, I felt the whole game. 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 5: It was just like, you guys better start scoring some 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: touchdowns because like, if this game stays like this, it's 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 5: just a matter of time before he kicks into gear 99 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: and engineers a couple drives and that's exactly what he did. 100 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: Like I was just you know, it's almost like just 101 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: felt inevitable, inevitable to me at a certain point in 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: the third quarter, I think where it's just like, man, 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: San Francisco just can't do enough offensively, and they're not 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 5: putting up enough points. 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: They can't get away from them, and well I. 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: Just got, you know, once they muffed that punt, I 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: was like, this is the Patriots, the chiefs of the Patriots. 108 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: They're doing exactly what the Patriots did when they were winning. 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Take advantage of every idiot play pooping the pants by 110 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the other team down the stretch in the big game. 111 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: And that's what it was. And they've got Tom Brady, 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: which is now called Patrick Mahomes. 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: It is now referred to yeah, just so much. 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: So like I mean, not to stop start off on 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: something completely meaningless, but like Drake greenlawch like tearing his. 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 6: Achilles, like I felt so bad, like and especially I 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 6: don't think I've ever seen anything like big. 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: Plays too would start the game and you just like 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 5: you almost felt like he was the one bringing the 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 5: energy and then you just kind of a little random 121 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: skip going into the game and he just blew, you know, 122 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 5: And it's never good when they come back and they 123 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 5: show you like some footage that you know, while we 124 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: were away and they show him like pop. You know, 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: you almost could see it with like Aaron Rodgers when 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: he popped his achilles. You could just see that right there. 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, that was that was just one moment that 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, man, it's it's it's a tough fight right now. 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: For for for the forty nine ers. 130 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean he got her, Deebo Samy. It wasn't 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Kittle was in and out, you know, 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: so not injuries had nothing to do with it. Bad 133 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: calls had nothing to do with it, but. 134 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: No chiefs overcame the ball. 135 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes had everything to do with it. 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's uh, I mean, you know, 137 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 5: you know what I hate though, It's just like the 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 5: thing that pisses me off is like, so now we 139 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: just go right into comparison mode. Well and it's like, 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: you know, and I just want to say one my 141 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: Theodore Roosevelt comparison. 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: Comparison is comparison is the thief of joy. 143 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: That's good because you know, it's like it doesn't even 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: appreciate Patrick Mahomes just like, all right, well that's what 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: he did. 146 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: How does he compare to Tom Breaking? 147 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 5: Now, like, well, you just like give the guy a day, 148 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: let him but without having to stack him against everything 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: in the universe that's ever happened. 150 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: He's coming at defending Patrick Mahomes. 151 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 6: I'm busting I'm busting your balls, but I agree with you. 152 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: I just don't understand why everything has to be a 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 6: referendum on forever. 154 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Right, That's what that's not. 155 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 6: Everything today in sports is a referendum on what will 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 6: be for all time? I know, but why does it 157 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 6: have to be like that? Immediately it was I'm not 158 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 6: saying Mahomes doesn't deserve it, but believe me, I'm saying 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 6: the opposite. I actually just wrote the opposite. 160 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: No, I mean, listen, I made I'm completely open. I 161 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: was rooting from the forty nine ers just so that 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: the Kansas City chief didn't get to this point. But 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: it was at this point for the Patriots where we 164 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: were talking dynasty, where were comparing Brady to Montana. So 165 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: it's only fair that they do that as well with 166 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the chiefs and mahomes. 167 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 8: I don't know if we were comparing Brady to Montana 168 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 8: after three. 169 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 6: Oh, I can give you a clip in the absolute and. 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: That was the only defense of Montana is that he 171 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: had never lost in a super Bowl. 172 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: And after three, like I remember, when he won his 173 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 6: third day, he was called the greatest of all time, 174 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 6: right by somebody on the documentary who I'm I don't remember. 175 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 8: I don't remember people the general masses putting Brady above 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 8: Montana until they beat the Seahawks. 177 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: No, that's not well made. Until they got I'm not 178 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: saying you don't remember, and he was, but they were 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: saying that, they were saying it. 180 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 6: I just we were among those that certainly. 181 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: In seven, certainly by seven they were saying that was it. 182 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 6: He was the greatest when he because I I think 183 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: the seventh season was the one that sort of showed Okay, 184 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 6: like the first three, you can make an argument that 185 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 6: was defense and running game, but then when he showed you, oh, 186 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 6: I can play that way and win. But I can 187 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: also set all your passing records too, if you want 188 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 6: to win that way. And I think any and I 189 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 6: agree with you, Fred, it wasn't that long. It didn't 190 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 6: take that long for most people to say this guy 191 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 6: is among the greats. That was it for even though 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 6: the last naysayers, you know, the game manager stuff kind 193 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 6: of went away. You know, there's always trolls like that 194 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 6: Nick Wright guy. I think that Nick Wright guy still 195 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 6: says that, but most people said he's a little better 196 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 6: than we gave him credit for. Yeah. 197 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I have no problem with all the comparisons 198 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: and calling them a dynasty, because we certainly called them 199 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: anasty and. 200 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 6: I don't have a problem. I don't think Mike is 201 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 6: saying has a problem with the Chiefs being called a dynasty. 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: But why do we have to just think, right, where 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: does it stack up a against Brady? Now? 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: And it's like, well, I mean, I mean this is 205 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: a compliment to Patrick Mahomes, like he's doing it his 206 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 5: own way Brady did his own way. That was special 207 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 5: and it was great and amazing. And you know, now 208 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is doing it's just the instant rush to like, 209 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 5: okay one now that well, they were ready for it, 210 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, I mean, and you want to 211 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 5: make the comparisons, go for it. 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: I don't care. I mean, it doesn't you know, it doesn't. 213 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 6: Mean it's ire with Evan, it's clearly. I mean, you 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: win three in that short of a period of time, 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,479 Speaker 6: that's a yeah. It's like the Patriots Gil Santon. 216 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: And as long as Mahomes is playing well and is healthy, 217 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna keep winning. 218 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 219 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna keep winning super Bowls, but 220 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the hunt every year. 221 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: And I said to Evan upstairs, I was like, it's 222 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: almost a good time to stink, because like, how do 223 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 5: how would you feel if you had a quarterback like 224 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 5: Josh Allen right now where you're like, man, we got 225 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: a guy like we gotta win a super Bowl. And 226 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 5: it's like Mahomes just keeps slapping you back, slapping you back, 227 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: and it's like. 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: It's we're guys gonna run the clock on Patrick mahomes here. 229 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: Well, we'll draft a quarterback in ten years and then 230 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: we'll try to make our move. 231 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 232 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: So what did you guys think of the game itself? 233 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna get I'm gonna let that open 234 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: a vein later on Shanahan. But like the game itself, well, 235 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 6: it started kind of blair, yeah, but then it's it 236 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: was the Brady thing. Yeah, Like you get to the 237 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 6: second half of these games and the defenses are out 238 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 6: of tricks. They can't stop anybody, right, And it started 239 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 6: a little slow in the second half, but by the 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: time the fourth quarter rolled around, that was it. 241 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: Yep. 242 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just was surprised that, you know, I mean, 243 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: Deebo was, like you said, was hurt that they just 244 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: really had nothing to go to, Like, you got all 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: these weapons you've been talking about. You kint a couple catches, 246 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 5: but you know, it just felt like, my god, it 247 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: all feels all on brock Purdy right now, and he's 248 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: got McCaffrey and either he's finding and having a big 249 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 5: you know, one or two big runs. But it was 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 5: a grind for him too. And you know, as soon 251 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 5: as it just seemed like Deebo's not really doing much damage. 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 5: Kid can't really go to Kittle. You know, it's like, 253 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: all right, well it's all on Evan's guy Purdy, and 254 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 5: I don't. 255 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: Think he's gonna be able to pull this out. 256 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 257 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: I think Perdy had a good game. He just doesn't 258 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: have that extra thing when the pressure is happening to 259 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: make that decision under pressure. 260 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 6: Like that was the difference in the halves. Yeah, the Chiefs. 261 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: You know, I've been telling you all, I think the 262 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: Niners line stinks. They could not stop them. They just 263 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 6: completely attacked Party in the second half, and you know, 264 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 6: for the most part they kept moving the ball, but 265 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 6: then when they got down there, they came up with 266 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 6: a big play right down to the last one in overtime. 267 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 6: You know, they had three guys wide open on that play. 268 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 6: The guy he threw to was open, and plus he 269 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: had two other guys that were open in the middle 270 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 6: of the end zone. I think Ayuk was one of them. 271 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: Was wide. Like, no one the guy fell down that 272 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 6: was covering a Yuk, but no one blocked Chris Jones. 273 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 6: How do you not block Chris Jones. 274 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: It's kind of important. 275 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now a lot of people want Kyle Shanahan's head. 276 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't. 277 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: Want his head, but I like to make fun of them, 278 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 6: especially because Evan. 279 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: I know a lot of forty nine ers, you know, 280 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: they're down on Kyle Shanahan. I don't know. I mean 281 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I know that he's been involved in three Super Bowls 282 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: with double digit leads that were given up. But I 283 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: mean he gets you there. So that's more than a 284 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: lot of coaches can say in this league. I don't know, 285 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: And that. 286 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: They gets silly to think about moving on from him. Yeah, 287 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 6: I'll say that. That's another mic ism. Like right after 288 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 6: the game, it's like, is it time? I mean should 289 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 6: they should the Niners look to move on from him? 290 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 6: Like what are we doing? 291 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 292 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 8: He literally took what many people think is the greatest 293 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 8: quarterback of all time to overtime with Brock Party as 294 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 8: his quarterback, and we want to get rid of the guy, 295 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 8: Like I just I think what you saw in that game. 296 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 8: Spagnola was awesome and the Chiefs defense was great, but 297 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 8: they played cover one man to man or cover zero 298 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 8: for like the entire game and just dared Rock Party 299 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 8: to beat them down the field, just just dared him, 300 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 8: and he whether the pressure whatever, you want to chalk 301 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 8: that up to they couldn't do it. They didn't make 302 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 8: the plays down the field that they needed to make. 303 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 8: He missed a couple throws. There was definitely pressure in 304 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 8: his face other times. But I I think when you 305 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 8: look at these Niners, and I watch a lot of 306 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 8: Niners games because I do love Kyle and I watch 307 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 8: a lot of their games, and it feels like they 308 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 8: are swimming upstream the entire game because they have to 309 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 8: Everything around the quarterback needs to be perfect for them 310 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 8: to put up points. 311 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I know a lot of people criticize Shanahan, 312 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh they should have run more in the third quarter. 313 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: I find my I found myself saying, open it up, 314 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: go like, not just these short passes, Oh, go downfield. 315 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: And maybe they just couldn't do that. 316 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 6: Well. I thought Trent McDuffie was really good in that game. 317 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they did play, you know, and I. 318 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: Thought they made some really good plays in one on 319 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 6: one situations downfield. 320 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 9: Ye. 321 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 6: I do think that they got away from the run 322 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: a little bit in the third quarter. They had three 323 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 6: three and outs to start the second half. Eight passes 324 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that there was because of Purdy 325 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 6: that they didn't move the ball, but McCaffrey is your 326 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 6: best player. Yeah, and they got away from him a 327 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 6: little bit there. Now, people like they didn't run the 328 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 6: ball in the second half. They ran the ball plenty 329 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: in the second half. I mean he had like thirteen 330 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 6: in the second half. That's a lot. You know that. 331 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: You know, if you have twenty six carries in the game, 332 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 6: that's a lot of carries for a running back. He 333 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 6: was the focal point of the offense. I thought, what 334 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: I would push back a little with Evan is I 335 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 6: thought there was For the most part, I thought Shanahan 336 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 6: was fine, his normal he was regular. But I thought 337 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 6: in individual plays at key moments, I don't think he 338 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 6: did some of the right things. I think he got 339 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: away with one of them. Going for a fourth down 340 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 6: there instead of tying the game, I thought was insane. 341 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 6: It worked by half a yard, but they get down 342 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 6: and field goal range. It's like third and two, Like, 343 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 6: did they did they run McCaffrey in any of those 344 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 6: third and shorts? I don't remember, like, and it was 345 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 6: clear Kansas City was just gonna say we're coming after Purty, 346 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 6: like like Evan said, We're gonna expose ourselves. We're gonna 347 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: have some cover zeros here because we're just gonna go 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 6: after party and we're gonna hope that we get the 349 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 6: ball out of his hands quick enough that he can't right, 350 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 6: you know, because that even like that last play, like 351 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 6: I don't put that on party. Like maybe Brady makes 352 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 6: that play, maybe Mahomes makes that play, but most guys aren't. Yeah, 353 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 6: and just hand the ball off once. And then if 354 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 6: you're going to go for fourth and three in the 355 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 6: fourth quarter when you're down three or whatever they were 356 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 6: at the time. I think they were down three, right, 357 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: thirteen ten, why wouldn't you go for the fourth and goal? 358 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 359 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 6: I haf fourth Was it fourth and three from the 360 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: nine or something like that? Yeah? That second guess why 361 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: wouldn't you go for that one? 362 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 8: The most fair because you kick the field goal, you know, 363 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 8: Mahomes scoring a touchdown, and we. 364 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 6: Don't even started about the decisions to on the coin toss. 365 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 6: I am not convinced he knew the rule. I am 366 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 6: not think that he knew what the rules. I mean, 367 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: their defense had just been on the field and you 368 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 6: have twenty minutes in between, and they were time and 369 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 6: by the time they got back from all the commercials. 370 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: The third possess. 371 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: The only way you take it well is if you 372 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: know you're going to score a touchdown? How do you 373 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: How can you know that? 374 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 6: Well? 375 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 8: They were playing for the third possession, right, He's saying, 376 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 8: we take it first, we score, they're gonna score, and 377 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 8: we have a chance to win it on the third possession. 378 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you have to know you're gonna score 379 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: in order to do that. 380 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 6: No, I don't mind that that that thinking you're gonna score, 381 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 6: But like you're playing for a third possession that might 382 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 6: not exist. There are two possessions exist. 383 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: That's what I say. If you don't score on your 384 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: first possession, all they have to do is kick a 385 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: field goal. 386 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 6: Right, But they but they might not score either. You're 387 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: playing for a third. There are two possessions that absolutely 388 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 6: have to happen. I want the second one, so I 389 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 6: know what I need to do right right, I want 390 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 6: to have four downs. 391 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 392 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 6: Like, let's just flip it. If Kansas City got the 393 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: ball first and they get stuffed in that third and 394 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 6: one before they even got a first down, are they 395 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 6: going for third, fourth and one from inside their own 396 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 6: thirty five. 397 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: No, it makes it easy. You know what you gotta do. 398 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 6: Right. Are they going for that? I mean they might have, 399 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 6: but I don't think. 400 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 8: The essentially four downs. They gave them four downs, right, Yeah, 401 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 8: I agree with that. I mean there's logic to both sides, 402 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 8: though there really is, Like, there's logic. 403 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 6: I don't think there's a lot of logic. 404 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: Going to score. If you know you're going to score 405 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: on your first possession, there's logic to it. 406 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: Why because the other team now controls it. If they scored, 407 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 6: they have the ability to win the game. 408 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about a touchdown if you score, right. 409 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 6: Right, that's what. Did you hear what Andy Reid said? 410 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Did you hear what they were going to go for two? 411 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: They had the whole thing. If we win the toss, 412 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: we're going to defer and even if they give up 413 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 6: a touchdown, yea, if we can match it, here's our 414 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: two point play. This is what we're doing. Right. 415 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: So you think they would have done that in. 416 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 6: The moment, yes, and you do not. You do not 417 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 6: have control. Was my point. I want to be the 418 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 6: second team because I'm in control. 419 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 8: I think there are two point players. The one that 420 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 8: they want to win the game. 421 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 6: It might be, but it's the same one that they 422 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 6: used twice last year against the Eagles, So who's gonnay 423 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 6: they wouldn't have used it again. 424 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that might have been their two 425 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 8: point play and they say, well, we don't need the 426 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 8: two points now, Well, doesn't agree with you? 427 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 6: Yeah? I do. 428 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 8: I just I think with Purdy, And I know that 429 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 8: people think that I hate him because I do. No, 430 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 8: I'm just kidding. He played okay, like he didn't. Fine, 431 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 8: But you know, Brady, Tom Brady was on with Steve 432 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 8: Young last week and there's a clip that. 433 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 6: Made the rounds and. 434 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 8: And he's saying that clip, how many times he sees 435 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 8: quarterbacks snap the ball when they're running a play that 436 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 8: they know isn't going to work. And that is what 437 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 8: drives me nuts about Party is that he comes to 438 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage and they're they're popping the center 439 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 8: on the third down play in overtime with a one 440 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 8: technique over the center, Like where do you where do 441 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 8: you think he's gonna go? So like they don't have 442 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 8: the blockers in the middle right to pick up everybody, 443 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 8: and he just gets the line of scrimmage and just 444 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 8: snaps the ball and it's like, yeah, he's a second 445 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 8: year quarterback. Maybe he improves on those things. But when 446 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 8: you get into these games against Patrick Mahomes and the 447 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 8: Super Bowl and all this, all the stakes are you 448 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 8: know out there, these are the little margins that you 449 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 8: just can't win with. Like it's these little things that 450 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 8: add up. You know, Trent McDuffie comes through on a 451 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 8: third down completely unblocked. When they had the numbers, they 452 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 8: just didn't have it pointed in the right direction. And 453 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 8: in five years maybe he starts to make those checks 454 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. But they're in a win now 455 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 8: mode now, like this is there. They're in a window now. Yeah, 456 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 8: And if they don't maximize the roster or that they 457 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 8: have around him right this minute, you know, Brandon Nyuka 458 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 8: is gonna be gone. It sounds like Deebo Samuel who knows, 459 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 8: you know, like Nick Bosa, like all these guys that 460 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 8: are at the peak of their powers right now, it's 461 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 8: all gonna flame out and these quarterbacks like that's the difference, 462 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 8: Matt Patrick Mahomes is a great equalizer. You can have 463 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 8: flaws other places in your roster. You can make mistakes 464 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 8: in the course of a game, the Niners have to 465 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 8: play one way, They have to have the script go 466 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 8: exactly as planned, and the second that they start to 467 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 8: have mistakes, they are too far behind. 468 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. The reason I didn't like it, Fred is 469 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 6: it just to me it reeked of Ted Williams, like 470 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 6: you can't hit that right? Like, yeah, Tom, I don't 471 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 6: know if anybody ever told you, but you're the greatest 472 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 6: quarterback who's ever played, and the reason for that largely 473 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: is your mind. But so to just suggest that anybody 474 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: who runs around to make a play that means he 475 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 6: failed on the play because he didn't know, Like, yeah, Tom, Yeah, 476 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: what Evan just said is a thousand percent right. There 477 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: were probably times in the game that Brock Purdy didn't 478 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: recognize what you recognized in your sleep because he hat you. 479 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: But I neither was anybody else. 480 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: But he's not physically The problem with Purdy is that 481 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 8: like a guy like Mahomes can run around and make 482 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 8: the play. 483 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 6: Right what Tom says, that means he stinks well mistake part. 484 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 8: But with guys like Purdy, they're not good enough to 485 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 8: do that. So if you're not if you're not dominating 486 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 8: pre snap and you're not physically That's. 487 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 6: What made him so great, right, he dominated pre snap. 488 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 6: Like I just think and I understand that Tom's not 489 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 6: going to say, like when I was the greatest, but 490 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 6: he's overlooking how hard that is. No, but I think 491 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 6: he down playing it because it was easy for him. 492 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: But I don't want to give anyway any spoilers, but like, 493 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: if you watch the documentary, you understand what Brady put 494 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: into getting to that point. Like I'm sure he's just 495 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: has a natural mental ability, but he worked hard at that. 496 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: He worked hard at understanding defenses, and you know, put 497 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: the hours in. 498 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 6: So what I'm telling you is you could take one 499 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 6: hundred quarterbacks to put the same amount of violence, and 500 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: you might get ten of them to understand it the 501 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 6: way I didn't. 502 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: I found the clip, you know, we're talking about the 503 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: Steve Young and Brady clip. I found it great because 504 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: that is Tom Brady. He's saying, you know, this is 505 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: what I would see in front of you know, before 506 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: a play, and even you know. 507 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not doubting that for a second. That's absolutely 508 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 6: what Brady would see. 509 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I saw it a million and I think if I'm 510 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback, I'm aspiring to be like. 511 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 6: I remember the clip of against the Ravens when Ed 512 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 6: Reid was Trent McDuffie in the play that that Evan's 513 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 6: talking about, and here he comes, and we don't have it. 514 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 6: We can't block this, we can't block it. We can't 515 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 6: I can't slide the product. He's unblocked. I'm just gonna 516 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 6: throw it over his head. I know where he's coming from. 517 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 6: I'm gonna wait for the right time and I'm gonna 518 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 6: throw it over his head for an easy touchdown. Yeahs 519 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: against one of the greatest defenses of this era. 520 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 8: When you spin it forward to to the you know, 521 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 8: looking at the Patriots and looking at quarterback play in 522 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 8: the league. My takeaway from that clip, I I understand 523 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 8: where Paul's coming from. That it was a little like, 524 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 8: you know, I. 525 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 6: Could do it. It's so easy, but you have to have 526 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 6: one or the other. 527 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 8: Like you either have to be able to dominate in 528 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 8: that respect of the game, or you need to be 529 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes and you need to be able to physically dominate. 530 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: Or he probably does it both ways. 531 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: And we'll see if Pardy developed, because Party will not 532 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: be able to do it the way the Runners do, 533 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: but we'll see. I mean, really his first full year. 534 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 8: And and but I'm just saying in general, if you're 535 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 8: looking at quarterbacks in the draft, if you're looking at 536 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 8: quarterbacks as a general statement, like that's the league now. 537 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 8: The league is either filled with guys that dominate after 538 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 8: the snap mostly like that. It's Patrick Mahomes, It's Josh Allen. 539 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 6: Those are that. 540 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 8: Those are the guys that are winning, like, those are 541 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 8: the guys that are are doing it at a high level. 542 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 8: And these other guys that do need to be perfect 543 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 8: on the margins, they're coming up short. Like it's the 544 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 8: Jared Goffs, it's the Brock Purties like those, those guys 545 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 8: just don't have it enough of that ability that Brady did, 546 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 8: because nobody will. And I think you know it was Brady, 547 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 8: it was Peyton. You know, maybe Drew Brees had a 548 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 8: little bit of that in him, and everybody else is 549 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 8: just you know, trying to just survive post snap of 550 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: Trent McDuffie's coming through unblocked and I'm just gonna have 551 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 8: to get rid of the ball and make something happen. 552 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I thought it was a great game. 553 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah me too. 554 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, I thoroughly enjoyed. It was funny because Sean McManus, 555 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: who heads up CBS, predicted, you know, in jest, it's 556 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna be double overtime, and then I'm thinking, oh my god, 557 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: we're getting close to that. 558 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 6: So that would have been the second quarter, that would 559 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: have been double overtime, right, So I forgive me, Chiefs 560 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 6: would have kept the ball. 561 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't Youah, no, it's just a continuation. 562 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: But did the clock start at ten minutes fifteen? I don't. 563 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: I mean forgive me for not knowing that. I don't 564 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 6: think it matters. Someone asked me a question that I 565 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 6: had absolutely no clue of an answer. Why why do 566 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 6: they have a clock right in overtime at all? 567 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: Maybe just for the place like having to, oh, no, 568 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: you need a play clock. Well no, but I mean 569 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: just to like say when the play let's. 570 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: Way. Let's just say that you're on that third possession, 571 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: right and you're behind, and you're coming up to the 572 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: end of that first quarter, you have to score before 573 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the quarters out of the game's over, even if you're 574 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: still possessing the ball. 575 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 6: No, no, which quarter of the second if this, if 576 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 6: there's a team that's winning or lose. You're telling me 577 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 6: that if that quarter ended and the Chiefs. 578 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Would have lost, why else do you have a clock? 579 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: The Chiefs wouldn't have lost if they didn't score on 580 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 6: that play. 581 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, they would have kept the ball at the beginning 582 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 8: they went to the second quarter. 583 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be the second quarter. It was was 584 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: they because I was thinking the same thing. It would 585 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 5: counting down. 586 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 6: It's true about that absolutely positive quarters. 587 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, they said this would they would just you know, 588 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 4: go into the second quarter. 589 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: Why I have a clock? 590 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 6: And with that we brought it home. 591 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: But I thought the answer was because you have to 592 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: you have to do it within that quarter. 593 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 8: No, it's not like it would end to end like 594 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 8: in the regular season, right. 595 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: I mean, there really isn't. 596 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 9: No. 597 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: I mean, the only thing I could possibly think of 598 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: is just to categorize the plays of. 599 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 6: The regular season. If that ten minutes runs out, it's 600 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 6: a tie. So I understand why there's a clock there. 601 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 6: But there's no ties in the play the third. 602 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: But if it went to a third overtime, would that 603 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: be halftime? 604 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 6: Then with that, you said that fifteen, they started the fifteen, 605 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: So there was two possessions in. 606 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 8: The The Niners had a seven minute possession right running 607 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 8: the ball as everybody say that they abandoned the rules. 608 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 6: But that's why I mean McCaffrey. I looked it up 609 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 6: because everybody was saying it. As I was driving on Monday, 610 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: I was like, I don't remember, Like my mind's like 611 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 6: I didn't remember that, And then I looked up the 612 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 6: game book and it was like McCaffrey had nine carries 613 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 6: in the first half. We ended up with like twenty 614 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: something twenty two I think, Yeah, I think thirteen carries 615 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 6: in the second half. That's a lot of carries. 616 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 8: The only defending of Kyle Shanahan that I will do 617 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 8: because he did he did not have a good end 618 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 8: to this game, So I'm not gonna sit here and 619 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 8: tell you that he was great. But we don't even 620 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 8: talk about it correctly, like we just make stuff up, 621 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 8: Like we just say, oh, they abandoned the run in 622 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 8: the second half. 623 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: They didn't. They didn't. They ran the ball. 624 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 8: Seven times in overtime on their drive, like they didn't 625 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 8: abandon the run, like, and they would just make this 626 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 8: stuff up instead of actually pointing out real things that 627 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 8: actually happened in the game, like the third down play 628 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 8: call and overtime stunk. It was a terrible play call. 629 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 8: It was not going to work, and they run a 630 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 8: zero blitch in your play actioning against the zero blitz, Like, 631 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 8: good luck with that. It was not a good play call. 632 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 8: But that's not what we're talking about. 633 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: You know how they scored that touchdown with the throwback. 634 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, man, if the Patriots tried to do that, 635 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: they'd have lost twenty yards. 636 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: You know, oh these Patriots. 637 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 6: You mean, I didn't love that call either. 638 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: I know that was that was Harry. 639 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 6: I mean, that was really There were a lot of 640 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: people like that, especially at that time of the game. 641 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 6: I thought the Niners were doing what they wanted to 642 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 6: do offensively. They came out the first couple of drives 643 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 6: and I thought they looked really, really crisp offensively, and 644 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: then you throw that play in. Yeah weird. 645 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: There was just a lot of traffic around there, and 646 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh boy. 647 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: I know, how about Juan Jennings though, like they probably 648 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: would have want MVP. Yeah, if they had wanted in regulation, 649 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 6: Like let's say that the Chiefs didn't go down and 650 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: get a field goal at the end and they won 651 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 6: whatever it would have been nineteen sixteen. I guess I 652 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: think he would have, like I think McCaffrey probably as 653 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: he continued to pile up the big plays, would have it. 654 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 6: But I thought it was the fourth quarter in overtime. 655 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 6: I thought we're riveting, you know, when both teams kept 656 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 6: getting the ball and having to score, and they both did. 657 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 5: I think I was just too angry because I'm like, 658 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: you idiots, you're gonna let Patrick Mahomes win. 659 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 6: Like that was the whole time. I was just sitting there. 660 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking of, Like, man, you guys 661 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: don't get it. 662 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 6: I just appreciate greatness. 663 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 5: I do too, but I but you know, they have 664 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 5: to see the game unfolding a certain way, and you're 665 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: likes especially. 666 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: The second half, they come out. 667 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 7: Here. 668 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 6: We got teams made really huge mistakes. All teams fumbled 669 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: in the red zone. You know, Mahomes comes out and 670 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 6: you know in the second was it the second no, 671 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 6: the first drive of the second half and throws a 672 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: pick even though that would have been punting anyway, but 673 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 6: you know that the punt was huge. But it's not 674 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: like the Chiefs didn't do anything wrong and wasn't there 675 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 6: like seven fumbles. You can't explain about the calls on 676 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: this one. And I know the Chiefs get every call 677 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 6: according to everybody on Twitter, but there were about four 678 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 6: calls that were like huh in that game, down one 679 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 6: lthough to start overtime that they're down holding call, which 680 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 6: I thought was probably a good call, but didn't really 681 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: get called the rest of the game. 682 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 10: You know. 683 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 6: It's kind of like the Philadelphia one the year before, Right. 684 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: It's funny how it didn't end up costing the team 685 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 6: a game though. I don't know how these things work. 686 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 6: It's much like the Patriots, Like Patriots used to have 687 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: calls like that every once in a while, and they 688 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 6: overcame them. You know, it didn't become a huge thing. 689 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: What did you think of halftime? 690 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 6: I loved it good. I thought it was good. 691 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: I think from the roller skates on, I liked it 692 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: a lot of energy before the roller skates. I didn't 693 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: think there was enough energy at. 694 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 6: Licia Keys was before the up States. 695 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, but I got a little mellow like 696 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, and like they're always trotting her out like 697 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: either pregame or everybody likes her. 698 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 8: I just really like how now like millennials are like 699 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 8: the target demographic for the super Bowl halftime. So it's 700 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 8: like it's it takes me back, you know, like it's 701 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 8: all of our people, it's Usher, it's Rihanna, And I 702 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 8: remember as a kid, I like me, it was like 703 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 8: my father, you know, maybe a little bit younger, and 704 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 8: I was like, who are these people? 705 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 6: Right? 706 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 8: But now it's like all for us, which I feel 707 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 8: maybe makes me feel a little bit old, but also 708 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 8: makes me feel happy because. 709 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: Fall and I miss up with people. 710 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 6: Well, so it's funny you say that I did my 711 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 6: my new tradition. I was telling you guys about I 712 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 6: try to toward the end of the performance go to 713 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 6: Twitter to see if I can find someone who loved 714 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 6: it and someone who hated it. And bang, first one, 715 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: I see, this is setting super Bowl halftime shows back 716 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 6: decades up with people. Yeah, I've done the next one. 717 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: I don't know, just rand randos on Twitter. I don't 718 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 6: know who they are, Mike, Mike, Bop Straw. So the 719 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 6: next one, no, no, no, no, don't say this Straw. I mean, 720 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: then the next one is legendary performance by Usher up 721 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 6: there with Prince and Michael. Okay, I'm not saying that. 722 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 6: And I'm like there it is. I wrote about it 723 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 6: notes it's like an exercise that I've tried, Like you 724 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 6: can find someone immediately who loved it and hated it, 725 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 6: and I just find that so funny. I like, I 726 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 6: like Usher, so it was kind of for me. I like, 727 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: I like that music. 728 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 8: But it's just if if you're the target demographic, then 729 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 8: you're gonna like it. If you're not, then then you're not. 730 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 8: It's like and it's a very target. It's like you too, everybody. 731 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 8: I mean, the symbolism of one was to me still tops. 732 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 8: But I don't like you too. I don't like their music, 733 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 8: but I don't enjoy like the performance. But it was 734 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 8: an incredible halftime. 735 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: But like, I'm not the target performance. But when uh, 736 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, demographic, but when j Loo and Shakira out there, 737 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: that was like high energy from beginning to end. 738 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 8: You are the target demographic. 739 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 6: Okay, that was that was different. 740 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean that was like and I'm not like you 741 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: was taking either of their music, but it was just 742 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: a great performance by both of them from beginning to end. 743 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: This one, yeah, well, I think this one started off 744 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of slow, but then the roller skates can aiming 745 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: and then he got into his big hit, you know, 746 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: the one that. 747 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 6: I can't believe he didn't do. DJ got his Falling 748 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 6: in Love. 749 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's good. 750 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: But did you see some girl fall off the roller 751 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: skate thing? Though I saw, really, I missed a funny 752 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: thing this morning, like that happened. 753 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 6: This girl was like mishaps fred Friend's there for it. 754 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 4: She's got like a black eye, she's got like some 755 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: bloody you know. 756 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 6: She really So this is like I saw that. It 757 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 6: was an after It was. 758 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: In like after interview and she and she's an actress, 759 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: and she said, you know, this is kind of a 760 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 5: cautionary tale because like when we used to cast people 761 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: and you get actors resumes, it always has like other 762 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 5: talents and it'll be. 763 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 11: Like saper fighting, you know, like they'll have all this 764 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 11: random stuff in there. So she's roller skating on her thing 765 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 11: and then she was like, yeah, I didn't roller skate, 766 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 11: and I guess she. 767 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: I didn't see it. 768 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't want I didn't see her taket, but I 769 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: guess she took it aheader and was all bloodied and 770 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 5: bruised because she said that she could roller skate, and uh, 771 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: I missed that. 772 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 6: You see now. But the let It Burn Confessions mash 773 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 6: up that he did in the middle was just chef's kiss. 774 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 6: I mean us we're talking about, Yeah, I would. 775 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: I think I went to clean up the kitchen like Rihanna. 776 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 6: You know is Rihanna. 777 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 8: She's she's a goddess, she's perfect, but she was pregnant 778 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 8: and you know there it was definitely wasn't her her. 779 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 8: I would say that Doctor dre One was probably my 780 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 8: recent favorite, just because I'm a big rap guy, but 781 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 8: this was pretty good. 782 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And then commercials. 783 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 5: The Dunkin one, I mean ben Affleck, I I just like, 784 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 5: you know, they're those guys hilarious, and I just love 785 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 5: how they used Brady like they didn't make a big 786 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 5: deal out of Brady. It was just like my guy 787 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 5: Tom and it's just Brady with these little glasses. 788 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: And then how you like them donuts. 789 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that line from Matt Dame was hilarious. I mean, 790 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 5: then all the other you know, little stuff they put 791 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 5: out on social media. 792 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they sold those times. 793 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: Those things sold out in like seventeen minutes. 794 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna lie. That would be good. 795 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: You should come out. 796 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 6: You should catch two great Halloween costume. 797 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 4: Oh that's exactly what I thought, probably exactly. 798 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you and your buddy go out with those things. 799 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 5: I mean, but they're hilarious. I mean, that's the only 800 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 5: one that really tom stood out to me, you can say. 801 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, there was a lot of 802 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, uh brands that just let's just get as 803 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: many stars as we can that you wouldn't expect to 804 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: the same thing. 805 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 6: I wrote that, Yeah, that there was the star par 806 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 6: was there, but I didn't really see much that was 807 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 6: overly memorable other than. 808 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 5: The donks that Tamu company that had like fifty different ads. 809 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 5: Did you see that one that does like it's like 810 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 5: a cheap used not used cheap place, like a cheap 811 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 5: Amazon that they had a bunch of it, But I 812 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 5: don't know that was. 813 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: What I just want everyone to know. Jesus gets us okay. 814 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 6: Oh that was linking to We're watching that. 815 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 4: She's like, what is this ad? And I'm like, just wait, 816 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: she hasn't. 817 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Ever seen that before. They were always. 818 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 8: I like the Miickeelo with Messi and Jason Sadekas. That 819 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 8: was good, little ted Lasso shut out. 820 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: It was good. But like when you see that. It's like, man, 821 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: they could be better, you know, like, if you gotta 822 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: get messy, it should be like so good. And it 823 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: was okay, you know like that. I thought the couch 824 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: potato thing was clever, but a little too long. 825 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 6: You know, I got too many people in my house 826 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 6: to like me really get the. 827 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Remember the couch potato. The farmers they're growing couch potatoes, 828 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: and it's all these people that are potatoes watching TV. 829 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 6: Have gone to the bathroom durnal Oh wow, David and 830 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 6: Jennifer ans One was that Uber eats. 831 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, that was good. 832 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 6: Star Power thought of stars. 833 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 8: Dunk Kings took it. Dunk Dunkings love not even close. 834 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 8: I agree with you to the Jlo line at the end, 835 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 8: you can stay perfect. 836 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 6: That was good perfect. That was good. 837 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: All right. 838 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 6: It was a little jealous because usually you, Paul, you 839 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 6: can stay. 840 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 8: I just like how Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are like, 841 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 8: don't take themselves too seriously. 842 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 6: Anymore, exactly. 843 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 8: They really really like they've they bought into that fact 844 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 8: of like we're we're not that cool. 845 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 6: I mean, how do you like them doughnuts? 846 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 4: Like that's gold? 847 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like having to be like really, 848 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 5: you know, like most guys probably be against that, but 849 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 5: they're they're down for fire. 850 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 6: I'm sorry questioning our friendship. 851 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: No, that's good for them. That's uh. They're bringing some 852 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 4: silliness to Boston and Duncan and our partners, so it's great. 853 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of Boston there was. You know, Brady 854 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 8: was in a couple of commercials and I was a 855 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 8: little bit surprised by that because I feel like the 856 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 8: Patriots were still in the super Bowl in a way, 857 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 8: so I was like, that's that's how I'm looking. 858 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 6: I don't know, Jim, Oh god, it was awful. Was 859 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 6: one of the things. Again, with so many people in 860 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 6: the house, I didn't hear a lot of that. I 861 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 6: kept doing it and people are like, what are you 862 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: doing the things that like, you can't hear it right now, 863 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 6: But that's what that's what he's doing. 864 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 8: The things that irk me that people say when I 865 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 8: say that we don't actually have a real conversation about 866 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 8: how the game unfolded are because he says these things 867 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 8: on the broadcast and he's full of it, like he 868 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 8: has no idea what he's talking about, and it's just 869 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 8: like then then people regurgitate, Oh, you know. Well, Romo 870 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 8: said they abandoned the run game as they're running the 871 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 8: ball like five straight plays and it's like, what are 872 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 8: you doing? 873 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: Right? All right? Five to five pasts five hundred is 874 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: the ace taken outline? 875 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 6: Should be real cool? 876 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: Final final standings. 877 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, to do those? 878 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might as well get that over all right. 879 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: And well, not good, Bob, Alex and Paul correctly predicted 880 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 6: the super Bowl one and oh, you guys all lost 881 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 6: in one. With the spread, Alex and Paul correctly picked 882 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 6: the super Bowl. You guys all lost, So Fred, you 883 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 6: take the Yeah, the overall, I'm not accepting it. 884 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: I think that if you lose the super Bowl game, 885 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 1: you can't you can't. 886 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 6: Well you win ten and three. I was nine and four, 887 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 6: Evan was eight and five, Mike and Alex were seven 888 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 6: and six. 889 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 8: I would have been nine and four if I didn't 890 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 8: pick the super Bowl with my heart. So with the spread, 891 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 8: I pulled a Fred on that one. Paul and Fred 892 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 8: tied for the lead at eight and five. I told you, 893 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 8: you gave me an opportunity to tell you. 894 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 6: I took it. Okay, I took it and broke a 895 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 6: major rule of engagement. And Evan was seven and six, 896 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 6: Alex was five and eight, and somehow Mike was four 897 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 6: and nine. 898 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how. 899 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 6: I just don't even know how. 900 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 4: I just got to do the opposite and then I 901 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 4: would have come in second. 902 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 6: How do you wake up in the morning. The one thing, 903 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 6: the one last thing about the Super Bowl, Like I was, 904 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 6: I was talking about this with my father and my brother, 905 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 6: like when I was like in high school. Every year 906 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 6: you get jacked up for the Super Bowl, and every 907 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 6: year it was over in the second quarter. Like there 908 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 6: was a string of NFC dominance. Oh yeah, in my 909 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 6: like high school years through you know, early early adults. 910 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 6: You know, Dallas just crushing Buffalo and they were just 911 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 6: no clothes. Now it seems like every game goes down 912 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: to the last possession. Yeah, it's great, it is. It's 913 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 6: great even if your team doesn't win. At least it 914 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 6: was riveting down the. 915 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: Street and we're due for a blowout. But I don't 916 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: know when it's coming, you know. 917 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 6: I mean, like even the Patriots rams won. That's thirteen 918 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 6: to three, Like it wasn't a great game, but even that, 919 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 6: it's three three in the fourth quarter. 920 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: Intense, you know, yep, all right, let's get to the 921 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: stacked phone lines here, and boy are they stacked. We'll 922 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: start with Eric in Nashville. Hey, Eric, Hey, how's it 923 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: going Goody? 924 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 12: So, I wanted to ask kind of a question about 925 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 12: the direction of this season a little bit. I'm not 926 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 12: going to put the quarterback question by you because I'm 927 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 12: tired of hearing about it. But in that kind of regard, 928 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 12: what would you guys feel, or how would you guys 929 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 12: feel if we ended up drafting May and sitting him 930 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 12: similar to what you know many teams have done in 931 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 12: the past. When you look at the track record of 932 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 12: that decision, there's a lot of guys like Montana, Steve Young, 933 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 12: Brady Mahomes, Herbert Rogers, et cetera, who all like sat 934 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 12: behind some quarterback and in that next year they kind 935 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 12: of started their reign. And I would kind of like 936 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 12: to see that with this year because we have so 937 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 12: many holes. 938 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 6: I I don't have any problem with that. 939 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 5: If he's not ready to play, I just wonder who 940 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 5: is playing, And. 941 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert started the second game of his career. By 942 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 6: the way, Taylor. 943 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 1: And all those yea and all those it's all circumstantial. 944 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Brett Farv was. 945 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 6: Peyton Manning started this first game too, and that worked. 946 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: On Brett Farv was on the team, and you know 947 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: they were uh Joe Montana with Steve Young, and there's 948 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: all reasons why. You know, had they not had a 949 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: quarterback who was seasoned, they might have started. 950 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 6: But I don't want to play him if he's not ready. God, 951 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 6: I agree with. 952 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: Eric, but he's only not ready as compared to the 953 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: other quarters on the team. 954 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 6: But I'm what I'm saying is if he's better, not 955 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 6: necessarily yeah, because he could have. 956 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 8: It's it's relative to him, Like, it doesn't make a 957 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 8: difference if he's better right now than like if. 958 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 6: They if they signed, if they signed Jakobe Brissett and 959 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels is better than Brissette, but he's not ready 960 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 6: to play, then I'd rather have, yeah, because because he's better, 961 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 6: but he's not ready to play. At least is ready. 962 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 6: He can protect himsel. He doesn't have the skills that 963 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels has. Yeah, but he knows how to play. 964 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: But to me, being ready to play is you're the 965 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: best quarterback on the team. Yeah, I mean at that time, 966 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: I disagree. 967 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 8: Is a bigger picture that you have to look at 968 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 8: and you're not looking to win the twenty twenty four season, 969 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 8: necessarily looking for the next decade to have your quarterback. 970 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 8: And if you throw him out there before he's ready, 971 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 8: just because he's better than Joe Flacco. 972 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 6: He gets bad habits, you know, relying on his app. 973 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: I remember because I was kind of covering the team 974 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: back when Bledsoe, you know, got drafted in ninety three. 975 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: I was doing another magazine, but there was talk, oh, 976 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: do you let him play right away? And he came 977 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: on the team, you had to. 978 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 6: That's different. 979 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 8: If he comes out on the field and Jaden Daniels 980 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 8: is just a completely unreal in training camp and is 981 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 8: playing out of his mind, then yeah, you play him 982 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 8: if he's ready. 983 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 6: But if he's ready, that's why I said, I don't. 984 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 6: I don't want to send him for the sake of sitting. 985 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: But how do you know what guy's ready to train? 986 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 6: You know what you're and what he's recognizing. It goes 987 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 6: back to Brady's comment to Steve Young. 988 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, no, but That's what I'm saying. But to me, 989 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: that's all part of being the best quarterback of the team. 990 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 6: We're talking about skills. 991 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, wait no, see now you're 992 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: thinking too much. 993 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 6: I know we would use semantics. 994 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: No, you're overthinking it. What I When I say a 995 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: guy is the best quarterback on the team, I mean 996 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: in practice. Like it's clear this guy's the best. And 997 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: you can't be the best quarterback in practice if you 998 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: don't know how to run the plays. 999 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 6: But but you can, What do you mean? I think 1000 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 6: Evan's right. I think you have skills that are better 1001 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 6: than the other guys. But the other guy's mind is But. 1002 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: If you're not throwing it to the right place, I 1003 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: can't play you. 1004 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 6: But it's not even about the other guy. 1005 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 8: It's about is it what's best for this player's development? 1006 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 13: Like? 1007 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 6: Who cares if he's better than Joe Flacco? That's not 1008 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 6: the goal. 1009 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 8: The goal isn't for him to be better than a 1010 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 8: backup quarterback that's thirty nine years old. The goal is 1011 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 8: for him to be a star. 1012 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 4: So do you think they should have sat Mac? 1013 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 6: No? I don't. I think he was ready to play. 1014 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 6: I think mentally he's better than you know coming into 1015 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 6: the league. Mentally he's much better than physically. 1016 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: I still think you guys are overthinking. 1017 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: I'm kind of more with you, fred I just I mean, 1018 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 5: I wanted to play. If he can't beat out Jacoby 1019 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 5: Brissett and he's a third overall pick, I'm gonna be 1020 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 5: a little bit. 1021 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: Like, if Jacoby Brissette is like head and shoulders, like 1022 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: running the team better, that means right now, at this moment, 1023 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: the other guy might have better skills, But right now, 1024 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: this guy's I know, Jacobett, it's a better quarterback. So 1025 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Jacoby Pressette. But that's not always the case. 1026 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 8: But what if Jayden Daniels is a better quarterback. But 1027 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 8: for Jaden Daniels' career, it's better for him to sit 1028 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 8: and hold the clipboard behind Jacoby Brissett for the next month. 1029 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 6: Why because it's just better. But you don't want him 1030 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 6: to get bad habits lie on his athleticism and not 1031 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 6: seeing and maybe like get hit too much. 1032 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 8: Like this year, the schedule out of the gate is 1033 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 8: really difficult, and you don't want to throw him into 1034 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 8: a week one game against Buffalo or Miami or something 1035 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 8: like that and have him get his butt kit. 1036 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 6: And this is not I'm not saying this because it's 1037 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 6: my guy. But if it's Drew Bledsoe and Scott Sequels. Okay, 1038 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 6: now that's a mild difference, like there's no decision to 1039 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 6: be made. Even though Drew's maybe not like mentally one 1040 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 6: hundred percent ready, he's so much better than the alternative 1041 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 6: we're talking about. Jayden Daniels or Drake May physically is 1042 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 6: superior to Kobe Brissett, but Brissette is more prepared to 1043 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 6: play the game. Now, well, it quack exactly, that's what 1044 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 6: Eric is saying. That's all Eric is saying. 1045 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: So then you're saying that no quarterback who rookie should 1046 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: ever play before a season veteran. 1047 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 6: No, some season veterans aren't any good. Fred, Oh, then 1048 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 6: I don't want him as my backup. Okay, Well, if 1049 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 6: it's Bailey Zappy, he's not very good. You had him 1050 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 6: as your backup last year. 1051 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna be more prepared to play than any rookie, 1052 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: any rookie. 1053 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 8: I don't need the rookie to sit the entire seaies. 1054 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 8: I'm not but's the guy I would sit him for this. 1055 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm not against the guy sitting. I'm not against that, 1056 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying there's some circumstances where the guy 1057 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: comes in and you just gotta play him. 1058 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of I am not 1059 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 6: anti playing the guy. I just gave you a handful 1060 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 6: of examples of guys that were pretty good. I know 1061 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 6: this is another one, like you can't take a quarterback 1062 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 6: in the top three because they all sock, because they 1063 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 6: all ignore the ones that are good. And this is 1064 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 6: another one. Well, you know Patrick Mahomes didn't play his 1065 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 6: first year. Well you know what, they might have another 1066 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 6: title if they played him his first year. How's that sound? 1067 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 6: You wasted a year playing Alex Smith. The one game 1068 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 6: that Mahomes played that year, he lit it up. So 1069 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 6: maybe you would have won that Super Bowl too. Like, 1070 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 6: I just don't like this blanket where you have to 1071 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 6: have everything in a box. Quarterbacks don't play, Quarterbacks do play? 1072 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 6: Like why can't you just assess the two guys and 1073 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 6: make a determination from there, right? 1074 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I think my whole point of view and 1075 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 5: this is just that I would be disappointed if a 1076 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 5: third overall pick can't beat out somebody. 1077 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 4: And you know, and I understand, I absolutely agree with that. 1078 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 8: I just wouldn't say it's not beating out like that's 1079 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 8: and this is maybeing that ready. 1080 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 4: And but I think it's the line too. 1081 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 8: Of I would just like, look at the bigger picture 1082 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 8: of is September of his rookie season really what you're after, 1083 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 8: Like it is him starting and them winning games in 1084 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 8: September of his rookie season, really the bigger picture of 1085 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 8: his career development. 1086 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think you want to. I 1087 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: think you're micromanaging a little bit, like, yes, if it's 1088 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: the top three quarterback, you're the guy that you have 1089 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: better be really you know, your backup better be really good. 1090 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 6: Because I agree with you, guys, And now I think 1091 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 6: I agree with both. I see Mike's face agreeing with you. 1092 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 6: I agree with what you're saying. 1093 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 5: I just think it's it's it's it's a line, and 1094 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 5: you want you want to acquire experience and some of 1095 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 5: the things that maybe he doesn't have yet. Well he's 1096 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 5: probably the quickest way for him to get it is 1097 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 5: just to see it in a game and get over it. 1098 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 5: But but I get your point too. 1099 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 6: It's always causing effect, right, Like Patrick Mahomes didn't play 1100 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 6: us first year, so that's the way to do it. 1101 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 6: Because he's great, he's the best in the game. Okay, well, 1102 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 6: I agree with something that Fred started to say a 1103 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 6: little while ago. When you're at Green Bay and you 1104 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 6: have Brett Farve, you can afford to slowly integrate Aaron 1105 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 6: Rodgers because you're one of the best teams in football 1106 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 6: and you're competing already. When you're Kansas City and you 1107 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 6: have Alex Smith, you're already a twelve win team that's 1108 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 6: going to the playoffs. No, you couldn't win a Super 1109 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 6: Bowl with Alex Smith, but you were a really good team. 1110 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 6: You don't have that urgency when you're a bad team. 1111 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 6: What's wrong with letting? Now, if the guy's not ready, 1112 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,919 Speaker 6: he's not ready. Again, you got to treat a case 1113 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 6: by case. You don't want to break him. But if 1114 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 6: he's ready, And I do think mac Jones was ready 1115 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,959 Speaker 6: his rookie year. I don't think that playing his rookie 1116 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 6: year broke him. It was everything that happened after that 1117 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 6: that broke. 1118 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: But now, now on the other side, if you know 1119 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: your offensive line stinks, that. 1120 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 5: Was just the point I was going to bring up. 1121 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 5: If you know, if we're taking the quarterback three and 1122 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 5: then you get down in the second round, there's not 1123 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 5: really a tackle. 1124 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 9: And. 1125 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: It's circumstantial. What are the circumstances at the moment, you know. 1126 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 6: Like when you have a good team, that, don't you 1127 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 6: think that also helped that quarterback, Like because now he's 1128 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 6: inheriting a good team. This isn't that. 1129 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 8: I just think a lot of teams rush quarterbacks that 1130 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 8: in Paul's scenario where you're a bad team and you 1131 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 8: just picked the guy high and you want it, that 1132 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 8: instant gratification of we made the right pick and this 1133 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 8: guy's gonna flip our our, you know, fortunes around, and 1134 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 8: I would just play the long game, like I would 1135 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 8: be more patient than that. And it does mean getting 1136 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 8: a decent backup quarterback. And I think that's one thing 1137 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,919 Speaker 8: about this free agency class. I don't love a lot 1138 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 8: of the Baker Mayfield, you know, path quarterbacks in this 1139 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 8: free agency class. But I think like a Gardner Minshew 1140 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,439 Speaker 8: or a Jacobe Brussett or one of those guys, they 1141 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 8: could carry you to Halloween and you and you and 1142 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 8: you might be an ex eptible team until then. 1143 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 6: And if you're not doing great, well, okay, so you 1144 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 6: know the seasons, you know, with two and five, you know, 1145 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 6: let's see if the kid can you know, give me something, 1146 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 6: you know, and again it's all case by case. C J. Stroud. 1147 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 6: He played day one, you know, set all kinds of 1148 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 6: rookie records, and Anthony Richardson showed some promise playing day one, 1149 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 6: you know, before he got hurt. Bryce Young looked like 1150 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 6: he wasn't quite ready, you know, he struggled playing day one. 1151 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 6: So I just I don't think it's you can just 1152 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 6: say this is how you do it if you want 1153 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 6: to be good, like it's a felgerism. If you want 1154 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 6: to be good, you gotta do it like the Packers 1155 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 6: do it. And I'm saying, yeah, have Brett Farv, you know, 1156 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 6: and then Aaron Rodgers and now Jordan Love and Jordan 1157 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 6: Love had some success right away. So that's the way 1158 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 6: to do it. You gotta you gotta let the quarterback 1159 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 6: sit for two years, two years. 1160 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: Most most teams don't have that luxury. That's why they're 1161 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: in the quarterback business in market. 1162 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 5: And even specific to the you know, the quarterbacks that 1163 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 5: you guys were talking about in May and Daniels even 1164 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 5: there's disparity between those two guys and and you know, 1165 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 5: and they think everybody kind of agrees that Daniels probably 1166 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 5: has except for that one guy that calls in every week, 1167 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 5: that Daniels has a little bit more of a ways 1168 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 5: to go and a little bit more of development to do. 1169 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 5: But I mean that's probably a factor too of you know. 1170 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 5: I just there's also just the clock is ticking though, 1171 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 5: you know, and it's you want to get experience, you 1172 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 5: want to get you want to just get them to 1173 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 5: where they're going to be so they can start acquiring 1174 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 5: that experience as soon as possible. 1175 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: So it's you know that that's what's hard. 1176 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 5: But I mean I go back to Bryce hung last 1177 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 5: year and wonder, you know, was that a situation where 1178 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 5: there's not. 1179 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 4: Much around him, it's kind of all on him. 1180 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 6: Well, that's why I brought There were all three bad teams, 1181 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 6: and all three of them would take it in the 1182 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 6: top four picks, and they all started right away. One 1183 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 6: of them had immense success, one of them showed some promise, 1184 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 6: and one of them looked overwhelmed. Like so it's three 1185 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 6: kind of really varied results. 1186 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: What was Joe Burrow when he first can't he was 1187 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: played right away. 1188 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 6: He played right away and he was really good and 1189 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 6: got and that team wasn't very good. But he was 1190 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 6: pretty good right from day one. 1191 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, then he got Jamar Chase and then he 1192 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 8: became he became a star. 1193 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: All right, uh A five five pats. Eric has been 1194 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 1: holding on it. Thanks for holding on, Eric. Let's see. Uh, 1195 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: Anthony's in Seattle. What's up, Anthony? 1196 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 14: Hey, what's up? 1197 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 15: What's my people's Hello? Hey you guys? Yes, yes, okay, 1198 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 15: forgive my voice. I was stick over the weekend and 1199 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 15: my voice is still trying to recover. But as uh 1200 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 15: as as Eric would say, according to Fred blended game, 1201 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 15: I guess that you guys that you guys didn't get 1202 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 15: that one. 1203 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 6: Okay, but what I don't think. I don't think I 1204 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 6: who won the game? 1205 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? 1206 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 15: No, I said, as Eric would say, according to Fred 1207 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 15: splendid game. 1208 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 6: You remember splendid, splendid, splendid. I didn't hear your words. 1209 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: Hurrah, hurrah. 1210 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 6: That was wonderful competition. Yes, yes, hey, listen, well done. 1211 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 15: I'm in the uh the minority of Patriots fans with this, 1212 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 15: or at least I feel I am. But you know, 1213 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 15: I don't mind. 1214 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 6: Uh. 1215 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 15: You know what Kansas City is doing right now? You know, 1216 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 15: I appreciate greatness. And you know all the those years 1217 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 15: and those moments and uh, those things that that that 1218 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 15: I got to experience and we got to experience as 1219 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 15: Patriots fans for all those years. Like those things can 1220 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 15: like can never be taken away, and those those things 1221 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 15: are forever. So like another team getting getting uh you know, 1222 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 15: another dynasty being born, or another team getting to experience 1223 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 15: that stuff that doesn't that doesn't bother me. And you know, 1224 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 15: watching my homes play the guys, the guys of Beast 1225 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 15: and you know, I, you know, I enjoy it. I'm 1226 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 15: a football fan. I'm a football purist. I really really, 1227 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 15: like I said, I'm in the minority. I like what. 1228 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 6: I know. That's good. 1229 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I I I hear what you're saying, Anthony, 1230 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: and like, but I mind it. 1231 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 6: I mind it like a wonderful honesty. 1232 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate what they're doing. They serve it. It's not 1233 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: a fluke, it's not you know, but I mind it. 1234 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen because I want it 1235 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: all for myself. I'm sorry. 1236 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 6: I know I get it, and I understand. I just 1237 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 6: the defensiveness at least you are saying, like they deserve. 1238 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 6: Of course they did the defensive like I had any 1239 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 6: more people like you know, just a reminder, the Chiefs 1240 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 6: haven't been called for a single holding call in a 1241 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 6: Super bowls okay, like no, but in overtime they had 1242 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 6: a guy catch a pass like three yards short of 1243 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 6: the first down, get knocked back twenty yards, and all 1244 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 6: of a sudden, it's second and fourteen, Like I have no, 1245 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 6: I've never seen that in the game. Yeah, I've never 1246 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 6: seen that spot like that in the game. Like he 1247 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 6: literally got hit and didn't get knocked off his feet. 1248 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 6: So instead of giving him forward progress, they gave it 1249 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 6: to him when they actually took him down. 1250 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: No, but he really he really aged he yes, he 1251 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: was trying to run. You can't give him forward progress 1252 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: if he's not being tackled. No, you can't. 1253 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 6: If he got let me ask you something, if that 1254 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 6: was the plane of the goal line, would it have 1255 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 6: been a touchdown. 1256 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: If he crossed no further? He crosses the plan for 1257 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: the question, that's different. It's not even it's not. 1258 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 6: Even it's the line you achieved. No, when that I've 1259 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 6: never seen stop correct, and that was forward progress getting stop. 1260 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 6: But there's a different rule at the goal line. It's 1261 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 6: not the I understand that better than that. You know 1262 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 6: that sends me into warm it don't. Yes, I gave 1263 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 6: you an intentional Andy Hart hyperbole, but do not tell 1264 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 6: me to be better. I'm not better. 1265 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to Ricky and Dorchester. What's up, Ricky, Ricky, 1266 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: how you doing? 1267 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 7: Hey? Hey, all right, I just want to shout you 1268 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 7: guys out real fast. First time caller, a long time listener. 1269 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks Ricky given the heater. 1270 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 7: And Ali isn't there, but shouting them out to love 1271 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 7: him Evan, good job, great job, love your analysis, and 1272 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 7: all right, comment and like the last question, but uh 1273 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 7: so I'm going to say that Patrick Mahomes is probably 1274 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 7: like the NFL's version of Michael Jordan's. So that's my 1275 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 7: comment there. I mean, I just think he's unstoppable. I mean, 1276 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 7: we're just watching greatness right now. I'm not saying he's. 1277 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: A goat, but you know he's on the track. He's 1278 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: on the track. 1279 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 7: That's kind a great track. Yeah. My next question is, 1280 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 7: I know you guys have mentioned like Joe Flacco and 1281 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 7: uh Jacoby Brissett, but like if we were to have 1282 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 7: a bridge quarterback going into next year, like what are 1283 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 7: like two or three options free agent quarterbacks that you 1284 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 7: guys would like. 1285 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: Okay, good question, Thank thank you, Ricky. Like mentioned Jacoby, 1286 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather have Gardner Minshew, I think he makes more plays. 1287 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 8: I guess it depends on your definition of bridge court. 1288 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like Russell Wilson's going to be available, yeah, 1289 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,919 Speaker 1: but he's I'm not paying him. 1290 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins will be availed. 1291 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: He's going to be available now. Yeah. 1292 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 8: But I think the real question if you want to 1293 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 8: go different direction and veteran quarterback is if do you 1294 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 8: want Justin Fields? Like Justin Fields is the one guy. 1295 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 1: But see if I get Justin Fields, I'm hoping he 1296 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: becomes the guy, right if I get Gardner Minshew, No, 1297 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: he's just a He's just a you know, a seat filler. 1298 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1299 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 8: I mean I think that's the the real that unless 1300 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 8: Arizona makes Kyler Murray available, which I don't think they will, 1301 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 8: that's really this the sticking point is do you believe 1302 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 8: that Justin Fields was Baker Mayfield? He was you know, 1303 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 8: misused or on teams that weren't you know, good for him, 1304 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 8: and Chicago wasn't good for him, And then he goes 1305 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 8: someplace else and he can all of a sudden turn 1306 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 8: it around and be a playoff caliber quarterback. 1307 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 6: I don't but like that you might. 1308 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 5: That sounds like Pittsburgh's interested in him, at least that's 1309 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 5: going around right now. Tom likes him, and yeah, it's 1310 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 5: I'm more on the Gardner Minshew, get a temp guy. 1311 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 5: You know, you want to tempt a temp, not a bridge. 1312 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 5: And you know, if you're gonna get Justin Fields, you're saying, 1313 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 5: we're gonna build around this guy, and we think that 1314 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 5: this guy can take us back to the top of 1315 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 5: the afcast. 1316 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 6: And it's hard to sell we're going to acquire Justin 1317 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 6: Fields and draft Jaden Daniels or Drake May. Yeah, it's hard, 1318 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 6: you know. So now, yeah, that's two draft picks to 1319 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 6: get two quarterbacks. 1320 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 1: And you're trying to develop two guys because I think 1321 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: Justin Field still needs to be developed. Like, how much 1322 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: time do you spend with each of these guys? 1323 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 8: If you the Justin Fields trade would be like thirty 1324 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 8: four and then maybe some something else for Justin Fields, 1325 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 8: and then. 1326 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 6: You're only because you're so high in the draft. You know. 1327 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 6: Schefter went on TV the other day and said it 1328 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 6: thinks that they can get thinks that Belichick is coaching 1329 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 6: the Chiefs. Well, if you get it first, they could 1330 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 6: get it first. 1331 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 4: Just keep them, Like. 1332 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 8: What I just I think you're gonna have to give 1333 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 8: up something. I think there are gonna be suitors and 1334 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 8: then you're gonna have to give up something. So you're 1335 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 8: hoping that you're gonna take Justin Fields with your second 1336 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 8: pick or third round pick, and then it's Marvin Harrison 1337 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 8: Junior and Justin Fields or it's Joe Walton Justin Fields 1338 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 8: and and is that better than Jaden Daniels and whichever 1339 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 8: tackle you get in the second round, Like I don't know, 1340 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 8: just a. 1341 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 5: Quick aside, like and this kind of just came to me, 1342 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 5: but like if Pittsburgh really does consider something like, credit 1343 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 5: to them, because that's what the Patriots should have done 1344 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 5: last year instead of like, hey, we got a first 1345 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 5: round pick and you know, cut bait Kenny. You know 1346 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 5: he was more and more down than up. But you 1347 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 5: know there was a little bit of a positivity there. 1348 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 6: But you know, if you pick it was better than 1349 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 6: Mac Jones the last two years. Yeah, but now I agree, 1350 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 6: but they're still but I'm trying to bash Mike's point. Yeah, no, I. 1351 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 5: Know, Like that's I mean, of all the failings that 1352 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 5: you know, we talked about, like why did we roll 1353 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 5: into this year if you didn't believe in any of 1354 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 5: these quarterbacks? 1355 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 6: You know? And I think that's what Tom was saying, like, 1356 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 6: I don't, in my heart of hearts believe in this guy. 1357 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 5: So we have you don't believe in the team's not 1358 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 5: going to believe Jaen Bentley's not going to believe in 1359 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 5: him if you know the people on the outside watching 1360 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 5: don't believe in him. 1361 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. Hey, Eldred, Hey 1362 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: fellas aw y'all doing it all right? 1363 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 16: Evan, I feel your pain because I'm feeling the same way. 1364 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 17: I hope Kyle. 1365 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 16: Would do it. 1366 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 6: But a couple of days, I. 1367 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 16: Like, yeah, yeah, but my thing is. 1368 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 4: To put his flat brim hat on and tries to 1369 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 4: make the best of him. 1370 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1371 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 16: But that time when I saw when Brady my Homes 1372 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 16: in the AFT Championship and when they were doing uh 1373 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 16: you know, that trophy stuff on their field, and he 1374 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 16: was up there looking, he looked, and he studied, and 1375 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 16: I'm like, darn, we're gonna have trouble out him. But 1376 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 16: I didn't think it'd be just great, this bad. You know, 1377 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 16: I never thought that. 1378 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Well, listen, if the Patriots hadn't gotten the ball first 1379 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: and overtime, Kansas City would have won that game probably 1380 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, no way. But neither. 1381 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 10: Thinking like that. 1382 01:00:54,560 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 16: But my best commercial was the Verison one. When they 1383 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 16: shut it down and. 1384 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Couldn't she looked good? 1385 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 16: I have to say, well, y'all have a good all. 1386 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 8: I had to say, all right, Also your target demographic, let's. 1387 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Go to John and Louisiana. Hey, John, nothing gets by you. 1388 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 6: Nice fred Ah. 1389 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 17: Okay, by a question, people saying about the Patrick Mahomes 1390 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 17: and the gold thing, So whenever Tom Brady was kind 1391 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 17: of getting to that point, they was saying he needs 1392 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 17: to pass Joe Montana first. I wonder, from your perspective, 1393 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 17: why are people trying to put him up there with 1394 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 17: the Tom Brady stuff when they were trying to tell 1395 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 17: Tom Brady needs to patch Joe Montanda before then. 1396 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: So, in other words, has Mahomes passed Joe Montana? Is 1397 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: that what you're saying? 1398 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 6: He's saying that, he's saying that. People didn't say Brady 1399 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 6: was better than Montana until he passed him, which we 1400 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 6: already proved that didn't have Yeah, No. 1401 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I think I mean I I distinctly remember people starting 1402 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: to talk talk about him as the goat after once 1403 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: the dynasty was established. 1404 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 6: I think if you're asking, and this is something I 1405 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 6: think that is very worthy of debate, Like the most 1406 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 6: accomplished quarterback of all time is going to be Brady. 1407 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 6: That doesn't mean he's the best. Now. I happen to 1408 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 6: think he's the best, but that doesn't mean I'm right. 1409 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 6: I don't have to be right all the time, even 1410 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 6: though I play that on TV. I think you can 1411 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 6: watch guys and how many times have I told you 1412 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 6: Fred my favorite quarterback to watching, The guy I thought 1413 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 6: was the best was John Elway. He only had two 1414 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 6: and you got him very late in his career, but 1415 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 6: I saw him carry moribund teams to the super Bowl 1416 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 6: throughout the eighties by himself with an incredible set of skills. 1417 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 6: Like I think you can have a logical argument. You 1418 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,959 Speaker 6: don't know if it's just about who won the most, 1419 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 6: why do you need to analyze it. There's a record 1420 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 6: book that tells you who has the most. Why are 1421 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 6: we arguing? No, there's no argument. One guy has seven titles. 1422 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 6: You don't think there's anybody you know that why no 1423 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 6: one else has seven? The next closest is four. 1424 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 17: I feel like this, do you think it's because of 1425 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 17: him winning? 1426 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: I think. 1427 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 6: How about how he's played? 1428 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what he's doing hadn't you know, what Brady 1429 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: did had never been done like the you know, doing 1430 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: it so fast, you know, and and now Mahomes is 1431 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: doing it too, So I find it only natural that 1432 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: you start drawing these comparisons. 1433 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 6: And Mahomes is winning titles his first three the way 1434 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 6: Brady's last three were. Yeah, like you strap on the 1435 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 6: team on his back and let him go. Like, that's 1436 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 6: not how Brady won his first three, right, Yeah, I 1437 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 6: think that that. 1438 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 8: It's to Paul's point, and I think with Brady, even 1439 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 8: in his peak, like had this a little bit with 1440 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers when Aaron Rodgers was winning m vps, it's 1441 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 8: that when you watch it, it's more aesthetically impressive. 1442 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 6: Well, watching an argument that Aaron Rodgers is a better 1443 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 6: quarterback than the the other guys. Now, to me, the 1444 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 6: difference is I can stretch it and say, well, this 1445 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 6: guy won five, that guy won seven, But I think 1446 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 6: the guy who won five is better. I have a 1447 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 6: hard time with the guy who only won one. Same Marina. 1448 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: But also remember when Mahomes came in the league, he 1449 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: was doing things in a way that we kind of 1450 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 1: hadn't seen yet, like you know, the different arm angles 1451 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: and the slots that he was throwing it on the 1452 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: run and just making things happen. He was a magician, 1453 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: no look past. 1454 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 6: With all the intangibles that Brady had, right, you know, 1455 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 6: winner clutch, right. 1456 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: So he was he was doing everything Brady did, but 1457 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 1: also with this wild athleticism and so and he's continuing 1458 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: to do it. So I have no problem people saying 1459 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: if he keeps on this track, he will be the greatest. 1460 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 6: And Brady separated with his longevity, right. 1461 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 5: I mean, it just sounds crazy right now to think, like, 1462 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 5: imagine Patrick Mohan's twenty. 1463 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 4: Thirty eight than a un title, like just that time frame. 1464 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 5: Let me just say, it's insane, like it could happen 1465 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 5: but just fifteen years from now, it's right. 1466 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 6: I was talking about this a little bit on Sunday, like, 1467 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 6: so he just won his third yes or no, Well, 1468 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes win a super Bowl in the next ten years. 1469 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I. 1470 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 6: Mean don't you have to think odds are that he will. 1471 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 6: Brady then went ten years without winning one. Yeah, through 1472 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 6: no fault of his that's true. I mean so like 1473 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 6: to say that, like they don't deserve to have a 1474 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 6: conversation about this. Yeah, And that's the thing. 1475 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 5: That like, you know, not to be the snody Patriots fan, 1476 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 5: but it's like you realize how hard it is, like 1477 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 5: and how you know, first what first quarter of two 1478 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 5: thousand and eight gone for the season. 1479 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 6: Every year between four and fourteen, with the exception of 1480 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 6: oh eight when he got hurt, they had a chance 1481 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 6: to win ball. And Patrick Mahomes will if he is healthy, 1482 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 6: as Fred said at the start of the show, they 1483 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 6: will have a chance every year as long as he 1484 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 6: is healthy. 1485 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1486 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 6: The question doesn't mean he'll win him. 1487 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 8: The question is, though, is and we were talking about 1488 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 8: this a little bit upstairs, his Patrick Mahomes' window is 1489 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 8: twenty years right, like it will be? Is that Andy 1490 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 8: Reid's window, Like how much longer is that gonna go? 1491 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 8: With Travis Kelsey's window, So that at some. 1492 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 6: Point I'm just saying Kelsey might not come back next year. 1493 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 8: Their star power outside of Patrick Mahomes, they'll have to 1494 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 8: turn it over like and Chris John worry. 1495 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 6: About Andy Reid. I don't worry about Kelsey kell figure 1496 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 6: it out. 1497 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 8: Kelsey, you know, I don't know. But but Chris Jones, 1498 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 8: like he's gonna potentially in some place the people. 1499 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,479 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and he'll have a year like six where 1500 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 6: which I kind of think they just had, where they'll 1501 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 6: have to go on the road and upset a couple 1502 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 6: of teams and yeah, you know, and then they'll have 1503 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 6: other years with those guys that replace Chris Jones and 1504 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 6: Kelsey are now when they're prime, and they'll be like seven. 1505 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 8: I think that was what separated the Patriots from anything 1506 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 8: else we had ever seen, though, is that Brady won 1507 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 8: with like different nucleuses everything. 1508 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 6: Yea, and I Mahome still hasn't. 1509 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 8: Yes, he didn't have Tyreek Hill anymore, but he still 1510 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 8: hasn't quite had to win it with a different nucleus. 1511 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 6: I'm not saying he won't. 1512 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 8: I'm just saying, you know, that's the longevity that Brady has. 1513 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 6: Let's say, let's see and the other thing I would 1514 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 6: say about Mahomes, you know, against the longevity is will 1515 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 6: he be the same if he can no longer do 1516 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 6: what he does with his legs. 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We'll 1522 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: be right back. 1523 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, oh No, 1524 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1525 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 18: everyone can focus on the perfect opening night FedEx Where 1526 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery only. 1527 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1528 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 13: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Horizon, where you 1529 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 13: get your pick of our best deals like my Plan, 1530 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 13: where you can pick the person you want and save 1531 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 13: on everyone for limited time. 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I 1539 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastitos. 1540 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1541 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:36,600 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1542 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 19: it was all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. It was 1543 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 19: always you, Toastedos. Team up with Toastitos, the official chip 1544 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 19: and dip of the New England Patriots. 1545 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No, 1546 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,759 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1547 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening FedEx where now 1548 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 18: meets next for residential delivery only. 1549 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1550 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 13: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 1551 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 13: get your pick of our best deals like My Plan, 1552 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 13: where you can pick the person you want and save 1553 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 13: on everyone for limited time. 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It's your Verizon. 1559 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 19: As I think back over the past few seasons, I 1560 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastitos. 1561 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1562 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:53,520 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1563 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 19: it was all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. It was 1564 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 19: always you, Toasted Team up with Toastedos, the official chip 1565 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 19: and dip of the New England Patriots. 1566 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No, 1567 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1568 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 18: everyone can focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1569 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,679 Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery only. 1570 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1571 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 13: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 1572 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 13: get your pick of our best deals like my Plan, 1573 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 13: where you can pick the person you want and save 1574 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 13: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to 1575 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 13: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for 1576 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 13: our best price ever. 1577 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 14: Get exactly what you want on your phone. 1578 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 13: Plan and only pay for what you need. Bring your phone, 1579 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 13: see your Verizons towards day and get my plan. These 1580 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,919 Speaker 13: deals won't last it's your Verizon. 1581 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 19: As I think back over the past few seasons, I 1582 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,480 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastitos. 1583 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1584 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1585 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 19: it was all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. 1586 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 3: It was always you, Toastitos. 1587 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 19: Team up with Toastitos, the official chip and dip of 1588 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 19: the New England Patriots. 1589 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No, 1590 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1591 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where 1592 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,639 Speaker 18: now meet's next for residential delivery only. 1593 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1594 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 13: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days Verizon, where you get 1595 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 13: your pick of our best deals like My Plan, where 1596 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 13: you can pick the person you want and save on 1597 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 13: everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to a 1598 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 13: Verizon store and you can get my plan for our 1599 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 13: best price ever. Get exactly what you want on your 1600 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 13: phone plan and only pay for what you need. Bring 1601 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 13: your phone to your Verizon store to day and get 1602 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 13: my plan these deals won't last. 1603 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,879 Speaker 14: It's your Verizon. 1604 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 19: As I think back over the past few seasons, I 1605 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,440 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastitos. 1606 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1607 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1608 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 19: it was all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. It was 1609 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 19: always you, Toastedos. Team up with Toastitos, the official chip 1610 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 19: and dip of the New England Patriots. 1611 01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh 1612 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1613 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1614 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 18: Now it's next for residential delivery only. 1615 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1616 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 13: Welcome to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 1617 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 13: get your pick of our best deals like My Plan, 1618 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 13: where you can pick the perks you want and save 1619 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 13: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to 1620 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,559 Speaker 13: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for 1621 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 13: our best price ever. Get exactly what you want on 1622 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 13: your phone plan and only pay for what you need. 1623 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 13: Bring your phone to your Verizon store to Day and 1624 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 13: get my plan. These deals won't last. It's your Verizon. 1625 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 19: As I think back over the past few seasons, I 1626 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastedos. 1627 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1628 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1629 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 19: it who is all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. 1630 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,520 Speaker 3: It was always you Toastitos. 1631 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 19: Team up with Toastitos, the official chip and dip of 1632 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 19: the New England Patriots. 1633 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no, 1634 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,959 Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1635 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 18: everyone can focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1636 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery only. 1637 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 14: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? 1638 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 13: Welcome to red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where you 1639 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 13: get your pick of our best deals like my plan, 1640 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 13: where you can pick the person you want and save 1641 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 13: on everyone for limited time. Bring your own phones to 1642 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 13: a Verizon store and you can get my plan for 1643 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,920 Speaker 13: our best price ever. 1644 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 14: Get exactly what you. 1645 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 13: Want on your phone plan and only pay for what 1646 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 13: you need. Bring your phone to your Verizon store today 1647 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 13: and get my plan. These deals won't last. It's your Verizon. 1648 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 19: As I think back over the past few seasons, I 1649 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 19: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Toastitos. 1650 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 19: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late 1651 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 19: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize 1652 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,520 Speaker 19: it was all thanks to my teammate, Tostitos. 1653 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,440 Speaker 3: It was always you, Toastitos. 1654 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 19: Team up with Toastitos, the official chip and dip of 1655 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 19: the New England Patriots. 1656 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 6: And now great moments in. 1657 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 4: History. 1658 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: Back in the day, when Eric was still a mediator, 1659 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 1: we went to Arthur's and he wanted to get a 1660 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,560 Speaker 1: steak while done, and I objected. 1661 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 6: He did, I objected, He voiced an opposition that's ridiculous. 1662 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Yes, told the servers that don't you dare, don't you 1663 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: dare bring him a coked steak. 1664 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 3: About five minutes later. 1665 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't need a good cut, is what I'm saying. 1666 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 1: You don't need to waste the money someone who's gonna 1667 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 1: have you all done. 1668 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 6: It was because you don't like to it'll taste the same, 1669 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 6: is what I'm saying. 1670 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: He won't even know the difference. 1671 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 6: Of course, you know the different street cuts of meat. 1672 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Not when you do it well done, not when you 1673 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 1: cook it well done. 1674 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 4: Just give him a hook. 1675 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 1: It loses, it loses. 1676 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 2: All its flavorin that's another great moment from. 1677 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 1: All right back here and Patriots on filters give eight 1678 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: five five Passive is the ace ticket hotline. I just 1679 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: want to remind people we talked about at the top 1680 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 1: of the show. This Friday, Patriots Dynasty, the Dynasty Apple 1681 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 1: TV plus dropping the first two episodes and we will 1682 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,679 Speaker 1: be dropping our first episode of the wrap up show. 1683 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,719 Speaker 1: And what's the name. It's Patriots Dynasty dot recap show. 1684 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, starring members of So we'll be listen, don't mark 1685 01:16:59,680 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 6: what you do. 1686 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,599 Speaker 1: So we'll be wrapping up every episode for the next 1687 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 1: five weeks because Apple's dropping two episodes a week, and 1688 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: so we'll be doing the same only one episode. 1689 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 5: Can I do a little tease, just a little teas. 1690 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 5: I'm not going to give anything away, but I just 1691 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 5: I found it interesting. This isn't just like and here 1692 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 5: was two thousand and one championship season and here was 1693 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 5: two It's it's much more back and. 1694 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: Forth, and there's more storytelling. 1695 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 5: There's not it's not divided up just like and then 1696 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 5: they won that championship. You know, it's right, a lot 1697 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 5: more back and forth and some things are combined. 1698 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 4: So it's just it's a unique look. 1699 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 5: And I mean the way I said it was as 1700 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 5: a Patriots fan and somebody who lived through it, I 1701 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 5: would frame it a certain way. But Apple and these 1702 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 5: producers in the book, and they're going to frame it 1703 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 5: a different way. And that's you know, it's an external 1704 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 5: kind of perspective on the dynasty, which I know, and 1705 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 5: we were. 1706 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Talking about it during the break, you know, whether it's 1707 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 1: the interviews that were done you know for this or 1708 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 1: some of the footage. There's a lot of stuff you've 1709 01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 1: never seen before or heard. So that's cool, yeah, you know, 1710 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: because you know, think about it, we produced a lot 1711 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 1: of content, the Three Games to Glories, the America's teams, 1712 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff that we do on a 1713 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: daily basis. But believe it or not, there's a lot 1714 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 1: of stuff that you've never seen that you're going to 1715 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: see in this thing. 1716 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 5: Like some of my general just favorite parts of it. 1717 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 5: It's just kind of the wide b roll of you know, 1718 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 5: here they are in the locker room, and you know, 1719 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 5: you just you see everybody you know, and you know 1720 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 5: that they're in the middle of this crazy run whatever 1721 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 5: you know, episode or scene it was. But you know, 1722 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 5: it's just like kind of those little moments where you're 1723 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 5: looking in at history and you don't they don't really 1724 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 5: realize at that time that there's any history going on. 1725 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 5: You don't realize that, oh, these are three Hall of 1726 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,560 Speaker 5: Famers right here. You know, those kind of things we 1727 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,759 Speaker 5: were cool. You know that, like all that extra footage 1728 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 5: that all. 1729 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 4: Of a sudden is dug up. 1730 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: It's it's, yeah, the best good stuff. So I can't 1731 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: wait for that on Friday. All right, eight five five 1732 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 1: pats five hundred is the ace ticket hutline phones continue 1733 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 1: to ring. We'll go to Ethan and Western. Oh I 1734 01:18:54,120 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 1: just knocked Ethan. I was like, call back, Ethan callback 1735 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,679 Speaker 1: Western Connecticut. We'll get you right back on Sean and 1736 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,719 Speaker 1: can supply Western Kentucky, not Connecticut. Sean's in Connecticut. What's up? Sean? 1737 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 6: Hi? 1738 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: Hi, Sean, Hey Sean. 1739 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 9: So the way I see it is that the Bears 1740 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 9: are going to get Cale Williams because there's no upside 1741 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 9: to keeping fields and then the Commanders probably get Drake Meg. 1742 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 9: Now the Pats have four options, doing Jane Daniels, Marvin 1743 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 9: Harrison Junior Joe All, or trading down. I think that 1744 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,600 Speaker 9: getting like a possible generational talent in Harrison All is 1745 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 9: better than the third quarterback who isn't really a scheme fit. 1746 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,719 Speaker 9: But this is a deep class from wide receiver and tackle. 1747 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 9: The trading down to eightish and picking maybe like the 1748 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 9: second or third wider receiver and tackle hopefully second. Yeah, 1749 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,719 Speaker 9: like pulling a Bears and getting in a lot of picks, 1750 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 9: Like getting a lot of picks from a downward trend 1751 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 9: to gain is probably my best FINI right now. 1752 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, you got it well thought off. 1753 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,680 Speaker 6: That's awesome though, no school today, Sean. He thought it 1754 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 6: was like it was like I was like, I don't 1755 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 6: even lie, tell me you did have a tear in 1756 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 6: your eye. 1757 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, is this Evan from the ninetees? 1758 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 6: Wait a second, that was twelve year old? That is? 1759 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 1: That was he? 1760 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 8: You know, you're at the bar and you're telling these 1761 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 8: adults that they're wrong, and then. 1762 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 6: This kid I gotta go call into a show wrong. Yeah, 1763 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 6: nice job though, that was I think he's I think 1764 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 6: he mapped out four options right now. 1765 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 5: It's a little intriguing just if they could try trade 1766 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 5: down to like six, you know, or just a couple 1767 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 5: of spots, like still get altered for Sean, you know, 1768 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 5: get one of these guys still in there. 1769 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nabors, I heard he's really good. Yeah, we were 1770 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 4: kind of we were kind of fanning out of the guys. 1771 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 4: God good, neighbors. Don't worry, don't call it. Don't at me. 1772 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 4: We know it's neighbors. 1773 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 6: It's an inside joke. Everybody built. Still. 1774 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 5: But even like Daniels, do you think Daniels, Is there 1775 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 5: any world that that Daniels You can get Daniels at 1776 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 5: like sixn. 1777 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 8: It's interesting because you know, reading a lot of these 1778 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 8: like big boards that are coming out, Daniel, Jeremy Maya, 1779 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 8: David Brugler, they all have Daniels eight, you know, in 1780 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 8: that like five to ten range. But he's a quarterback, right, 1781 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 8: so that's gonna prop him up. But you know, justin 1782 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 8: Fields went ten, and I don't think anybody really thought 1783 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 8: he would follow that. 1784 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 6: If there's no trades, he could go eight. But if 1785 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 6: someone's going to trade with you, they're going for that 1786 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 6: they're trading for that. 1787 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 8: I think it just kind of shows that there's so 1788 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 8: much process in a lot of ways still to go, 1789 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 8: where like a lot of those guys you know that 1790 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 8: do end up slipping a little bit slip because of 1791 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,479 Speaker 8: what happens now where you know, the interviews and the 1792 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,719 Speaker 8: combine and like pro days and like all. 1793 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 6: That kind of stuff. 1794 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 8: It's the film is a film like that's that's already 1795 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 8: established and out. 1796 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 4: There answering questions right right now. 1797 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: It's exactly the only thing you know, And Sean had 1798 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 1: that was an excellent call, Sean. But you know he says, 1799 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 1: you're not gonna take Daniels because he's not a scheme fit. Well, 1800 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 1: that's if Alex van Pelt is going to do the 1801 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: same offense that he's done in the past. But if 1802 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: you love Jayden Daniels, you're gonna change your scheme. 1803 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 6: You know, I just would. 1804 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 8: I'm so nervous to become a different guy, like I 1805 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 8: went back to Matt Patricia. 1806 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 1: No, but if you think this guy is going to 1807 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 1: be great, then adjust your scheme. 1808 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 8: If he's going to be great, then he's probably gonna 1809 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 8: be good no matter what scheme. Really, at the end, 1810 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 8: of the day. 1811 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 1: Well, you want to play to his strike. 1812 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 8: But I think the problem with Daniels, and this is 1813 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 8: what I would say what the Bears did wrong, is 1814 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 8: that he needs I think Daniels needs to be in 1815 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,799 Speaker 8: a water down offense to start and then slowly build 1816 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,760 Speaker 8: up to something more complex and sophisticated down the road. 1817 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 8: Whereas the Bears just took justin fields and they didn't 1818 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 8: highlight his mobility, they didn't put him in an option spread. 1819 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 4: It is after the game here. 1820 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't do any of those types of things, 1821 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 8: and they just try to turn him into like a 1822 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 8: traditional who's. 1823 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 1: Better coming out Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels. 1824 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 8: Jaden Daniels but better in the respect that he's further 1825 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 8: along as a passer than Lamar Jackson was. But because 1826 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,639 Speaker 8: we're half a decade removed from Lamar Jackson, like they've evolved, 1827 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 8: you know, how they developed these guys and how you 1828 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 8: use these guys. Lamar was definitely a better runner, Like 1829 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 8: Lamar is the best runner I've ever seen in college. 1830 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 6: So he was dotter than Michael Vick. 1831 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 8: Yes, he was definitely better as a runner, But Jaden 1832 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,839 Speaker 8: Daniel is definitely better as a passer. 1833 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 6: I just don't like the idea of making Alex man 1834 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 6: Pelt implement a system that he doesn't know. I don't 1835 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 6: want it that. 1836 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 4: I don't want that. 1837 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,600 Speaker 6: That's what I think that Jaden Daniels. I mean it. 1838 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 6: If he can't play in a facsimile of the West 1839 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 6: Coast offense, then I don't want them because that's kind 1840 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 6: of like what the principles of virtually every system has now. 1841 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 6: So if you just look at him and say, well, 1842 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 6: he can't do that, no, I don't think he can't. 1843 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 6: Before the guy from New York right tool because Arthur, Yeah, 1844 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,040 Speaker 6: I think he can do some of these things. I 1845 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,599 Speaker 6: don't think you'll have to do this. I'm saying, if 1846 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 6: you decide Jayden Daniels isn't a fit for way Alex 1847 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 6: van Pelt, I don't want Alex van Pelt implementing a 1848 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,760 Speaker 6: system he doesn't know. Yeah, well, isn't comfortable with at 1849 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,240 Speaker 6: the very least maybe he knows it. 1850 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,320 Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, I think there's a point where 1851 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 8: Jayden Daniels could be able to execute like what has 1852 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,719 Speaker 8: been the core concepts of the Alex van Pelt offense. 1853 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 8: I just think right out of the gate. If you're 1854 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 8: going to play him right away, going back to that 1855 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,800 Speaker 8: whole thing, then it's better to put him in a 1856 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson ish you know, maybe the Philadelphia Eagles ish 1857 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 8: type of offense that is a little bit more quarterback 1858 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,519 Speaker 8: run heavy and a little bit more simplified in the 1859 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 8: passing game, and that's gonna be what's best for his development. 1860 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 6: And that's where you're catering some stuff to his skills. Fred, Yeah, 1861 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 6: to get you your world you have best of both worlds. Now. 1862 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 5: One more draft thing too, is like the existence of 1863 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 5: neighbors and the dunes that kind of makes it hard 1864 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 5: to think that any team is really gonna want to 1865 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 5: come up to three for Harrison. You know, there's probably 1866 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 5: teams that, you know what I mean, like they're gonna 1867 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 5: be like, what's gonna happen? We're fine, you know, like 1868 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,639 Speaker 5: it's it's it's it's. 1869 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 6: Tough if you make a move up from like eight 1870 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 6: to three. I gotta think you're one of those teams 1871 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 6: like the Falcons or the you know, the Vikings that 1872 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,640 Speaker 6: looks for a quarterback. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just 1873 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 6: using the same thing with the tackles too. 1874 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 5: Nobody's you know, nobody's probably gonna trade up to get all. 1875 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 4: They're gonna sit and wait. 1876 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 8: You know, yeah, you look at the Neighbors is definitely 1877 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 8: starting to get some traction of how big is that 1878 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 8: gap really between him and Marvin Harrison Junior. And there's 1879 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 8: no doubt that Marvin Harrison Junior is the best, most 1880 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 8: well rounded, complete pass I told you I. 1881 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 6: Read that thing on the Senable Recap kind of thing 1882 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:48,839 Speaker 6: where there were a couple of guys that said personnel people, 1883 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 6: some of them have Neighbors ahead of Harrison. I'm not 1884 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,560 Speaker 6: telling you they're right. Yeah, I'm just saying, if Harrison 1885 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 6: is this once a generational player, then there's nobody in 1886 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,720 Speaker 6: the NFL who who thinks that another guy is the 1887 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 6: better receiver. 1888 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1889 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 5: Will Dane Brugler put out his uh, his top guys, 1890 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,600 Speaker 5: and he has Harrison and Neighbors two three in the 1891 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,240 Speaker 5: draft two three above them. 1892 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 8: May I just think it depends on what you want. 1893 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,720 Speaker 8: You know, we were also talking about this before. Neighbors 1894 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 8: has a superpower like his speed and his acceleration is 1895 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 8: a superpower. I don't know if Marvin Harrison Junior necessarily 1896 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 8: has an elite trade that's on that level. But he's 1897 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 8: just a more complete, well rounded receiver. He does more 1898 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 8: things well. 1899 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 4: Just general athleticism. 1900 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ethan and Western Kentucky called back. I'm sorry about that, Ethan. 1901 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,640 Speaker 1: What's up, Kentucky. 1902 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 20: It's all right, Paul, just bod me tickets to the season. 1903 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Call it even okay? Well, sorry, but you still ow me. 1904 01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 1: I still ow you. 1905 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,680 Speaker 20: Rookie quarterback on Balu, I think this might be agay, 1906 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 20: but it's the most situational position in the league. If 1907 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 20: you put a kid on this roster that we have 1908 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 20: right now, you're thrown into the wolves. And you guys 1909 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,640 Speaker 20: know that. Everybody knows that unless you can find a 1910 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 20: great one. And in my opinion, there's my gray line 1911 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 20: talking Brady Mahmes. Y'all touched on Lway earlier, but New 1912 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,760 Speaker 20: Splash like, you're not gonna be able to find that 1913 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 20: in the draft unless you just sit a diamond in 1914 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:09,760 Speaker 20: the rug. 1915 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 6: If you drafted CJ. Stroud last year at too. 1916 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 20: Could might be a great one. I mean, it's tooughly 1917 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 20: to tell. But on top of that, though they get 1918 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 20: a way better. 1919 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 1: Roster than we do. 1920 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,680 Speaker 20: There's more weapons there, they got a better defense, and 1921 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,640 Speaker 20: they weren't in my opinion, as bad coming into that 1922 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 20: draft as we are. But regardless of the point is, 1923 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 20: regardless of whatever, I'm all over the place. But if 1924 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 20: you don't have somebody like my Homes or someone like Brady, 1925 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,680 Speaker 20: you're not gonna go to go toe to hoe with 1926 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 20: my Homes. So as far as finding a quarterback and 1927 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 20: free agency or waiting around for the second or third round, not. 1928 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 21: To say that Drake may Kle Williams are those guys, but. 1929 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 20: In my opinion, you just can't let it go the 1930 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 20: boat going down the river, like you have to get 1931 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 20: somebody that in your head can carry a bad roster, 1932 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 20: go to toe to toe with my Homes or toe 1933 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 20: totoe with whoever it is, and win football games for 1934 01:27:59,040 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 20: the matter. 1935 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing though, I mean then it's hopeless 1936 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 1: because I mean, you're not going to find somebody that 1937 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,160 Speaker 1: you know in the foreseeablet you can't say no, I know, 1938 01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 1: but like, but what I'm saying is, if that's the criteria, 1939 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,599 Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's it's we're in a tough 1940 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 1: spot because you're not going to find a quarterback that 1941 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 1: you go to you're gonna have. Yeah, I mean san 1942 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Francisco was it. Yeah, San Francisco was an eyelash away 1943 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: from winning that game. 1944 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 6: So it's you. 1945 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 1: Don't have to have a bit no, I understand, I understand, 1946 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:33,800 Speaker 1: but it's not. 1947 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 6: But let's not overreact the other way now. And it's 1948 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 6: like it's it's whole than it's unwinnable. The game was 1949 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 6: winnable for San Francisco. Like I'll like, nobody's snarkier than me. 1950 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 6: As we all know, I love to take shots at 1951 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 6: your boy, Shanahan. Shanahan built a team that was every 1952 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 6: bit is capable of winning those two Super Bowls that 1953 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 6: he lost to Mahomes. They easily could have won both games. 1954 01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 6: They didn't just lose because Mahomes is that great like that. 1955 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 6: I'm not dismissing that part. But don't tell me that 1956 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 6: you don't have a chance to win. 1957 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,719 Speaker 1: Right because if that's the case. 1958 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 6: Year right, you know, just like Brady would have won 1959 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 6: twenty three instead of only six, right, I think he 1960 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,839 Speaker 6: was the Patriots. 1961 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 8: The part that I think you know dies with Kyle 1962 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 8: Shanahan a little bit is this idea that you can 1963 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 8: build the roster up around the mediocre quarterback and still 1964 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 8: be good enough, Like I I think the Niners are 1965 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 8: as close as you could possibly be to that, Like 1966 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 8: they are basically one hundred percent there of a loaded 1967 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 8: roster with a good enough quarterback that he's not was. 1968 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 6: It QB neutral or yeah, I don't like using. 1969 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 8: That, but that they're the closest thing to it, and 1970 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 8: it's still wasn't enough. So like, if that's your approach, 1971 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 8: if that's your idea, is that we're going to be 1972 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 8: the Niners and we're gonna have this stacked ross. Now 1973 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,720 Speaker 8: maybe you get the clutch moments and maybe you'd get 1974 01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 8: the back and it puts you over the top. 1975 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,040 Speaker 1: What if you have a quarterback who's a little bit 1976 01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 1: better than perty. 1977 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 6: Well, I would just I would argue that category. And 1978 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 6: you know that I am not a big fan of Oh, 1979 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 6: just do what San Francisco did, Like you can just 1980 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,160 Speaker 6: snap your fingers and draft you know, seven all pros 1981 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 6: over a span of four years. But let's let's just 1982 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 6: say that I'm not a big fan of that theory. Okay, 1983 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,360 Speaker 6: but if I were, if I'm if I'm Alex and 1984 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 6: I and I know, like the last thing he said 1985 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 6: on your catch twenty two last week was I'm rooting 1986 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 6: for my take. I'm rooting for the I want to 1987 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,920 Speaker 6: show that you can win with a QB neutrals. That 1988 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,439 Speaker 6: what he called it, like that something like that, that 1989 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 6: neutral quarterback new take. If I were if I were Alex, 1990 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,840 Speaker 6: not because I'm trying to be stubborn, but I would say, well, 1991 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 6: I haven't been proven wrong like that game. Seriously, like 1992 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 6: they could have won that game. I disagree with Alex. 1993 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:53,920 Speaker 6: You guys all know how I stand on this, But 1994 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, if I was on the other side, 1995 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,840 Speaker 6: nothing that happened Sunday would tell me I was wrong. Right. 1996 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 6: They the games in overtime like anybody can win it. 1997 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 6: I understand what happened. I understand mahomes Is greatness won out, 1998 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 6: But don't tell me that they didn't have a chance 1999 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:10,880 Speaker 6: to win that game if they didn't play better. 2000 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: You had the dad over the vampire's chest and you 2001 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,160 Speaker 1: just didn't put it. 2002 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 8: But that's the point to pay a devil's advocate, is 2003 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 8: just that you're not going to get a better roster 2004 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:22,719 Speaker 8: than the Niners. 2005 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,760 Speaker 6: Like it's it's pretty again in this theory, like there 2006 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,559 Speaker 6: is a couple of teams that did it that way. 2007 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 6: I think the Eagles largely did it that way. They 2008 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 6: pluck the quarterback into a really good roster. 2009 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I think you can do it. 2010 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 6: I think it's way harder to do that than it 2011 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,000 Speaker 6: is to do what Kansas City did. 2012 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,679 Speaker 1: I I'm just saying, if if in order to win, 2013 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 1: you have to have a quarterback who's as good as 2014 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, then that's it. 2015 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 6: That's it. There's like three teams that could possibly compete 2016 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 6: with them, and we'll see what happens. 2017 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 5: Right, But from like a Patriot's perspective, does it make you, 2018 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,720 Speaker 5: you know, kind of focus on a philosophy of just 2019 01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,560 Speaker 5: take the quarterback. You got to just keep taking the 2020 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,880 Speaker 5: quarterback in the first round until you hit on it 2021 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 5: because everything else doesn't really matter. 2022 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 4: I mean, as much as we want to say they got. 2023 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 6: It and you can't just chase it like that. But 2024 01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 6: you think, like taking Kenny Pickett, Like, if the Patriots 2025 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 6: are taking three that year, would you take Kenny Pickett 2026 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:16,639 Speaker 6: at three. 2027 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:17,559 Speaker 4: Because of his gloves? 2028 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 6: Well done right there? 2029 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 11: I mean, I mean, but you know, I totally a 2030 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 11: lot of people think next year is shaping up to 2031 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 11: a Kenny Pickett year. 2032 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 6: You know, maybe Shude or Sanders, maybe Quinn yours, but 2033 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,800 Speaker 6: I don't look at those guys as being anywhere near 2034 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, Drake May and Jayden Daniels. Well you just 2035 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 6: have the scuttle. But is that that next year someone 2036 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 6: will come out and. 2037 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Right, but you guys will have great seasons and it'll 2038 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:43,679 Speaker 1: just turn. 2039 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 8: It'll just you know, the league doesn't top of the 2040 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 8: league does not like the twenty twenty five quarterback class. 2041 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,840 Speaker 1: That's that's the But they will after this season. Maybe 2042 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 1: they have good year. 2043 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,719 Speaker 8: I mean a guy like Jayden Daniels was not considered 2044 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 8: a top five pick. 2045 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wasn't either. 2046 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 6: Then they had Joe Burrow was not anywhere near the 2047 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 6: number one overall pick with you, but people thought he 2048 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 6: was pretty good. 2049 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he really proved it that last year. 2050 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,639 Speaker 8: And oh yeah, but Jaden Daniels is the poster child 2051 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 8: for you know, he's probably like a mid day two 2052 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 8: pick if he you know, came out last year and 2053 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 8: this year now he could be the second overall pick. 2054 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 6: Someone will do that, someone will come out of nowhere. Yeah, 2055 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:21,639 Speaker 6: happens every year. 2056 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't Anti Richardson the same way? 2057 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 6: I mean he no, because he actually didn't play very well. 2058 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 1: That's right. It's the other way. 2059 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 6: Lots of tools that he's too drafted on his tools 2060 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,880 Speaker 6: as toolsy tools. I like tools. 2061 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,639 Speaker 5: I just would you look at the three positions they 2062 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,799 Speaker 5: need and it's like there's always a bunch of wide receivers, 2063 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,559 Speaker 5: like I mean, there's you know, there's wide receivers into 2064 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 5: round three that you're like, oh, I like this guy. 2065 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 8: I mean I was Watchackles are Tackles today and they 2066 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 8: Adie Mitchell and Xavier Worthy, the two Texas receivers are 2067 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 8: next up on my list. Those guys can both play 2068 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,519 Speaker 8: and they're gonna be like they're going to be like 2069 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:54,559 Speaker 8: early day two picks. 2070 01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,639 Speaker 5: So it's I guess it's not so much, you know, Paul, 2071 01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 5: you kind of expanded it out to you know, generally 2072 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:00,479 Speaker 5: like if you're a nineteen and then you got to 2073 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 5: take Kenny Picket, but just specifically for the Patriots, where 2074 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 5: it's you know, if you took him from just this 2075 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,400 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, it's kind of like just draft Daniels, like, 2076 01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,320 Speaker 5: I mean, he's got the skills, maybe maybe he's got 2077 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 5: some holes and maybe he got some. 2078 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,880 Speaker 6: I've gotten there. If any of those three are he's 2079 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,639 Speaker 6: the kind of guy you could take one of those. 2080 01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 6: I've kind of gotten there, you know, maybe I'll get 2081 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 6: in brow beaten by is it Arthur? 2082 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:23,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2083 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah. About Daniels, I'm sort of coming more around. 2084 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,800 Speaker 6: I still think May would be the better choice, but 2085 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 6: it's just. 2086 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I think the thing with me is like, 2087 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,479 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, Daniels is still going 2088 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 5: to be lightning fast and a super athlete and decent size. 2089 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 4: I mean, he's, you know, skinny, but he's tall. 2090 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 5: But then but he's got enough height that you're not 2091 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 5: going to look at him out there and be like, 2092 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,320 Speaker 5: why is there a munchkin in the pocket? 2093 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 4: You know. That's kind of like how I feel with 2094 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:46,839 Speaker 4: with Kyler. 2095 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 8: Murray sometimes, you know, but I'm with you though you're 2096 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,720 Speaker 8: I'm highest in this draft when it comes to these quarterbacks, 2097 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 8: Like I look at a guy that, you know, like 2098 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,639 Speaker 8: Bo Nicks or like Spencer Rattler who had a really 2099 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 8: good wee he's six feet six to one, I'm out well. 2100 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,360 Speaker 1: Purdy on Sunday, I mean, had two or three balls 2101 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: batted down. If he's three inches taller, he gets that 2102 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,600 Speaker 1: ball over that hand. You know, it does make it 2103 01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 1: difference because Jeff in Canada, I'm want to get a 2104 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 1: couple of emails in here. Don't lay blame on Shanahan 2105 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 1: for the decision to start ot. It was the first 2106 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 1: time in league history some of us had to make 2107 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 1: that decision. Of course, when you know the outcome, it's 2108 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: easy to say he's wrong. 2109 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know the outcome, However, I said he 2110 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:29,679 Speaker 6: was wrong. 2111 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: Up to that point, the Chiefs had only scored one touchdown, 2112 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 1: and that was on the punt mishap. If there was 2113 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 1: one play that I think the forty nine ers would 2114 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 1: really like a redo on, it would be the third 2115 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 1: and four at the two minute warning. You run it 2116 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,439 Speaker 1: there and worst case is fourth down, but at least 2117 01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have to burn a time out. Best case, 2118 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,720 Speaker 1: you get the first down and get to burn the 2119 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,639 Speaker 1: clock below thirty seconds and the Chiefs would have no timeout. 2120 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,679 Speaker 1: Mike Listen, Shanahan struggles in big games, yet everyone wants 2121 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,760 Speaker 1: the Shanahan tree coach. Why is there never talk about 2122 01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 1: the Andy Reid tree. He only seems to shine in 2123 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 1: big games. Maybe it's the same tree. Evan Purty gave 2124 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,960 Speaker 1: his team the lead four times in that game. 2125 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree by the way of his second 2126 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 6: guess of the play call at the end there, Like, 2127 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 6: I think that's a good call. I disagree with him 2128 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,080 Speaker 6: just blowing off. I don't think it took like in 2129 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 6: depth research to say I think I would rather know 2130 01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,800 Speaker 6: what I need. There's a reason in the college overtime 2131 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,559 Speaker 6: that the team that always chooses to go second. There's 2132 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 6: a reason for it, and it's obvious. You get an 2133 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,599 Speaker 6: extra down, you know what you need, and you therefore 2134 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,400 Speaker 6: have four downs to work with. 2135 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 8: I also just love I love how Andy Reid now 2136 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 8: all of a sudden it's a big game coach, like 2137 01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:42,759 Speaker 8: we just completely forgot. 2138 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 6: I'm not this is gonna be funny to you, guys, coach. 2139 01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 6: He was one of the worst clock management guys ever 2140 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,680 Speaker 6: in Philadelphia. Okay, now everybody says, well, he's got my 2141 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,639 Speaker 6: homes now, so that's how Might he have always been 2142 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,240 Speaker 6: pretty good at it? Or maybe the guy was terrible 2143 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 6: at it who was throwing up in the huddle and 2144 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,280 Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl, Like, I think the fact that 2145 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,759 Speaker 6: he dragged that guy to five conference championship games, including 2146 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 6: four in a row, is an amazing accomplishment. Amazing. It's 2147 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,800 Speaker 6: like Rex Ryan did it with Mark Sanchez twice and 2148 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:23,240 Speaker 6: people were like, he did it five times with Donovan 2149 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,880 Speaker 6: McNabb is a pretty good coach. This is why I 2150 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 6: like the clock management stuff. I know this is your 2151 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:30,679 Speaker 6: side of the street. Pause. 2152 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,360 Speaker 8: I'm not trying to come at you, because at the 2153 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,120 Speaker 8: end of the day, if the players on the field 2154 01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:40,479 Speaker 8: decide the game, okay, So I couldn't agree with if 2155 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 8: they ran the play at two two instead of had 2156 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 8: to and this like and that's why I just can't. 2157 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 8: It drives me nuts, Like it's like, okay, your clock 2158 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,599 Speaker 8: management school, I'm sorry. At the end of the day, 2159 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,720 Speaker 8: this guy made a play and that guy did it, 2160 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 8: and that's why they want. 2161 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: To be all saying that coaches can only lose you games. 2162 01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 8: There are certain situations like Dan Campbell the NFC Championship 2163 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,760 Speaker 8: game abhor it right, just horrible, But this Super Bowl 2164 01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 8: wasn't like that. 2165 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,320 Speaker 6: I don't think it was like that. I do agree 2166 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,320 Speaker 6: with his synopsis there though, because I think that the 2167 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 6: best path for San Francisco winning the game I think 2168 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 6: was in regulation melting the clock and kicking a game 2169 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 6: winning field goal, and I don't think they were thinking 2170 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 6: of it that way. 2171 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ben in the truck rights. In amidst all 2172 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 1: this scuttle but about Mahomes and the goat conversation, I'd 2173 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,559 Speaker 1: like to take a moment to remind everyone that Andy 2174 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,120 Speaker 1: called Mahomes a soccer player multiple times during that year's 2175 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:35,719 Speaker 1: draft show. 2176 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, soccer player, well done. 2177 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:41,760 Speaker 4: Where did he come up with that? 2178 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:42,360 Speaker 6: He saw? 2179 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:44,120 Speaker 4: Did he fallen? 2180 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 6: Fake entry way? Do we do this the combine? Yeah? Yeah. 2181 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 6: We watched guys at the podium and Andy used to 2182 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 6: just make these blanket assumptions. 2183 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 1: Because he had the hair. 2184 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,400 Speaker 6: I think, no, he was. He was kind of small. 2185 01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 6: He was like, he looks like a soccer player, which 2186 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,839 Speaker 6: who knew at the time meant he's an immense athlete. 2187 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 6: He could probably play anything. He's not even in great shape. Honestly, 2188 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 6: you've got a dad boy running around there. 2189 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Ken's in New Jersey, Ken, Hey, Ken, Kenny kennon Jersey. 2190 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,400 Speaker 6: See the clip on It's like a TikTok clip or 2191 01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 6: something on. Some guy that does a great Homes impersonation 2192 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,240 Speaker 6: goes through the whole thing is like yeah, yeah, every 2193 01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,360 Speaker 6: day you go, you know, and really it was everyone. 2194 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,200 Speaker 6: We could have done it without any of these guys. 2195 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:34,760 Speaker 6: Well maybe except for Canarius. 2196 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,599 Speaker 1: Logan's in New York. What's up, Logan? 2197 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,400 Speaker 6: I thought it was in Boston, so my. 2198 01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:43,679 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 2199 01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 21: I think that Phoenix is worthy of being around the 2200 01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:50,479 Speaker 21: top ten picks. 2201 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 6: Because what's his name, Pennis Panis. I don't want to. 2202 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,360 Speaker 21: Yeah, I think he's worthy of being really pick. And 2203 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,600 Speaker 21: if you FLI down to the late first round, the 2204 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,000 Speaker 21: second round, we got to get them. And I would 2205 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,760 Speaker 21: consider taking Marvin four in Phoenix later, just because they 2206 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 21: compliment each other so well, okay, with a deep receiver 2207 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,080 Speaker 21: and a great can be one on one. 2208 01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 1: So Marvin at three because the Patriots have the third pick, 2209 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 1: So you take Marvin at three. Starting school for children 2210 01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 1: to take Penix later. 2211 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,639 Speaker 8: When I was sick, I actually started this. 2212 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 6: No school in New York today, Logan, Logan, I think 2213 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 6: they're all in school. It is the kids. 2214 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,160 Speaker 8: They know the game these days they're calling, Look, I 2215 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 8: agree with Penix can play. We all we all know 2216 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,400 Speaker 8: Pendix can play. And I don't think the championship game 2217 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,559 Speaker 8: like Michigan's defense just dominated and I don't really hold 2218 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,240 Speaker 8: that much against him, and I love it. I love 2219 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,719 Speaker 8: his moxie, like I think he's got a great makeup 2220 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,520 Speaker 8: and mental toughness, a winner, and I think that's important. 2221 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 8: But it's going to come down to what we see 2222 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 8: in a couple of weeks, like what does his shoulders 2223 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 8: and knees look like? 2224 01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 6: Man? If there's if it's bone on bone, then it's 2225 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 6: it's going to be a Day two pick, like all 2226 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 6: day Well. 2227 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,639 Speaker 1: Take what we're seeing though, is Evan's army is coming. 2228 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 1: This is the junior, the junior Lazar. They just got 2229 01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 1: their iPhones and so they're. 2230 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,080 Speaker 8: All school today. Usually we're on when they're in school. Yeah, 2231 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:15,639 Speaker 8: I appreciate the school job. 2232 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to William and Phillim. What's up William? 2233 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,600 Speaker 22: Hey, how are you doing all right? Okay? Questions for 2234 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,960 Speaker 22: ut not even a question? Hey have you seen Alex 2235 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,519 Speaker 22: bark his mock draft and whatnot? 2236 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,439 Speaker 8: Oh God, how could you not see it? He's reposted 2237 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,599 Speaker 8: it seventeen times. 2238 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 6: I mean, just choose to ignore it. I haven't seen it. 2239 01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 6: I haven't that quos. 2240 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,800 Speaker 22: I love it, man. I wouldn't change a thing on there. 2241 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 22: I mean he moved around, he made some moves, but 2242 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 22: he got the tight end. He addressed the quarterback, the 2243 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,439 Speaker 22: wide receiver. I was fine, with it. 2244 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 6: Oh it was a seven round mark. Oh, Patriots seven 2245 01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 6: round mocks. Those are my favorite. 2246 01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2247 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,600 Speaker 6: I think he had three trades my favorites of the 2248 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,559 Speaker 6: seven round marks. Where I've heard of all son guys 2249 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:01,120 Speaker 6: that they have. 2250 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,479 Speaker 1: Seven round equals. I have a lot of time in 2251 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 1: my hands. 2252 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,000 Speaker 6: No, but I love the guys. It's like I'm gonna 2253 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,200 Speaker 6: take I'm gonna take Harrison Junior at three and then 2254 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,720 Speaker 6: jayde and Daniels will probably slip to thirty four. I'll 2255 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,559 Speaker 6: take him at in the second round. Like all seven 2256 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,760 Speaker 6: guys they take are guys that are household names, and 2257 01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,880 Speaker 6: I'm like, it's amazing. No one else thought any of 2258 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:20,800 Speaker 6: those players were good. 2259 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:21,639 Speaker 13: I will. 2260 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 8: I will give him this. I did like his mock draft. 2261 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,519 Speaker 8: I thought it was good. 2262 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,240 Speaker 6: I do love. I love the idea. 2263 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,640 Speaker 8: Jatavian Sanders and and somebody like Roman Wilson together on 2264 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 8: day two. It's tough to do, though. You gotta get 2265 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,320 Speaker 8: that trade that Alex pulled off on day two. 2266 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 6: To make you gotta hope all the other teams don't 2267 01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,800 Speaker 6: know all the good players pulling off fake trades. 2268 01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 8: He's He's the Bill Simmons of trades and mock drafts, Like, 2269 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 8: that's just that's all he's doing. 2270 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,639 Speaker 4: And can you give your who's the first couple of picks? 2271 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:51,160 Speaker 6: It was. 2272 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:59,040 Speaker 8: Drake May, uh, Jatavian Sanders, Roman Wilson, and uh he 2273 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 8: really likes that Pat Paul to tackle from Houston, So 2274 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,400 Speaker 8: those are so he traded down in the second round 2275 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 8: to add a pick. 2276 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:09,000 Speaker 6: Well, actual apologize Patrick Paul, so that that that's how 2277 01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:09,360 Speaker 6: he did it. 2278 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 8: We were talking about familiar with this earlier and Duce 2279 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 8: and I are going to have mock drafts. First of all, 2280 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 8: it's a little it's a little early for me for 2281 01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 8: the mock drafts. I've decided that because like, without free agency, 2282 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,519 Speaker 8: there's just so many holes and it's like how do 2283 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,120 Speaker 8: you plug you know, you only have seven picks, so 2284 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,400 Speaker 8: like how do you kind of go about this? There's 2285 01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,840 Speaker 8: too many holes. But the tight end class this year, 2286 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,720 Speaker 8: which is a need for the Patriots, especially if they're 2287 01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 8: going to run this Van Pelt offense, it's not a 2288 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 8: great tight end class and it's it's a difficult spot 2289 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 8: to find a guy in the draft to make and 2290 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,840 Speaker 8: Jatavian Sanders is probably the best because he is going 2291 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 8: to go early Day two. 2292 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 6: Last year was a great class, right class, So this 2293 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,680 Speaker 6: is another one of those No, no, no, we're not 2294 01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 6: going to take it in the year that there's a 2295 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,519 Speaker 6: lot of We're going to wait a year like they 2296 01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 6: did it. They did that at Wide Receiver a few 2297 01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 6: years back. Yeah. 2298 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,040 Speaker 8: I mean I was we were doing the free agency previews. 2299 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 8: I I do offense, does defense, and I was writing 2300 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,519 Speaker 8: the tight ends on last night, and I'm just thinking 2301 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 8: to myself, like them passing on that class last year. 2302 01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:16,400 Speaker 6: Just could really killed them, Like because. 2303 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 22: Go ahead and then am I out of the way. 2304 01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,680 Speaker 22: Just No, there's so much pushback on Drake May. Is 2305 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 22: he that bad? 2306 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we've got there's a person Christian and 2307 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,760 Speaker 1: from North Carolina and he says, uh again he's from 2308 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,559 Speaker 1: North Carolina. How a lot of us have been watching 2309 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 1: May since high school and even went to my local 2310 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: high school, so we have seen a lot more of 2311 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 1: him than most people. He thinks he's no good, no good, 2312 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:46,960 Speaker 1: no good. 2313 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,440 Speaker 22: Okay, yeah, okay. 2314 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,719 Speaker 8: Nobody else thanks William of watching Drake May, except people 2315 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 8: from North Carolina. If you didn't go to that, if 2316 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 8: you're not from that state, then why bother even having it? 2317 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,680 Speaker 6: I just would ask listen. I'm not an expert, I 2318 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,080 Speaker 6: fully admit, but I just don't know how you can 2319 01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:05,920 Speaker 6: watch a game and think a guy is good that 2320 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,800 Speaker 6: everybody else not everybody else, that someone else watches the 2321 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,080 Speaker 6: game and say he stinks. 2322 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,680 Speaker 5: No, Like like I don't going back to our conversations, 2323 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:15,679 Speaker 5: tall and has a good well, I mean, no matter 2324 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,479 Speaker 5: how good or bad you think he is, Like he's 2325 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,559 Speaker 5: going to go in the top five picks, no question. 2326 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:21,439 Speaker 5: And he's the kind of guy that's worth taking a 2327 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,759 Speaker 5: miss on, you know, like he's somebody if you drafted 2328 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,280 Speaker 5: him at three and it didn't work out. 2329 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 6: Then why does that happen? With Caleb Williams. Some people 2330 01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:29,720 Speaker 6: watch him play and they think he's great, And some 2331 01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 6: people watch him play they're like. 2332 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, he can't play, but he's not tall. 2333 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,800 Speaker 1: I know he's not tall, So like WHI he's a 2334 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 1: great athlete. 2335 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 8: I don't know who's watching Caleb Williams and things he. 2336 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,200 Speaker 6: Can't play well. I don't know if you know, but 2337 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:41,719 Speaker 6: he cried. 2338 01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,200 Speaker 8: I mean that's different. I'm just saying, like what he's 2339 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:45,599 Speaker 8: actually putting on film? 2340 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know, how did you see how 2341 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,439 Speaker 6: much better they were in the bowl game when he 2342 01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:48,960 Speaker 6: didn't play. 2343 01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:54,360 Speaker 11: Have you got because he brings that up like not joking, like. 2344 01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 6: Oh, I think they will not take him because he 2345 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:58,880 Speaker 6: cried after the Utah. 2346 01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:00,800 Speaker 1: No, but I think felger on A he doesn't want 2347 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:01,439 Speaker 1: to take. 2348 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 6: Him because of that, not just Mike. 2349 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 4: That's what it's. 2350 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,479 Speaker 6: That's his reasoning. 2351 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:07,400 Speaker 1: There's other things. 2352 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,439 Speaker 6: He's soft, that's his reasoning. 2353 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, he talks about all the other things you know 2354 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 1: that nothing to do with football, right, that's true. 2355 01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:16,439 Speaker 8: Well, that's because he doesn't know how. 2356 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,040 Speaker 6: To watch it correct, because I can't spell us if 2357 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,719 Speaker 6: you're spotted ball. 2358 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:23,160 Speaker 4: During the game. 2359 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,960 Speaker 8: So you can't like Drake May or Drake May if 2360 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,600 Speaker 8: you're not from North Carolina, you just don't know what 2361 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:29,320 Speaker 8: you're talking about. 2362 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,679 Speaker 6: And and you have to be from North Carolina. 2363 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,200 Speaker 8: I do not like him, and you can only have 2364 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 8: it if you're If you like Caleb Williams, then you 2365 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 8: have to hate him because he cried like that. 2366 01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:41,240 Speaker 6: Those are the That's that's what. 2367 01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:42,960 Speaker 9: It is. 2368 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to Matt and Virginia Beach. What's up, Matt? 2369 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 23: Hey, Happy Tuesday, everybody. 2370 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 4: Hey, thanks Matt. 2371 01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,240 Speaker 23: It's the lingering thought that I had from the Super 2372 01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,360 Speaker 23: Bowl is that if you don't have the quarter back, 2373 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:04,160 Speaker 23: you don't have a chance. The forty nine Ers defense 2374 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,360 Speaker 23: dictated all game how the Chiefs were going to play offense, 2375 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,639 Speaker 23: and the forty nine Ers offense couldn't deliver the kill shot. 2376 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 23: Rock Party had opportunity after opportunity to put the game 2377 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 23: away and couldn't do it. Mac Jones wouldn't be able 2378 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,840 Speaker 23: to do it, Bailey Zappi wouldn't be able to do it. 2379 01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,519 Speaker 23: I used to be of the opinion that maybe trading 2380 01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,760 Speaker 23: down in the draft would be the best way to go, 2381 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 23: but hot dang, I am all in on a quarterback now, 2382 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,000 Speaker 23: and I'm all for Drake May. I think Drake May 2383 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 23: has the body to withstand New England weather, He's got 2384 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,080 Speaker 23: the arm strength to withstand New England weather and how 2385 01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 23: the games are played out. And I'm all for doing 2386 01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,360 Speaker 23: whatever we need to do to get Drake May on 2387 01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:46,800 Speaker 23: our team. 2388 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:52,360 Speaker 6: All right, Drake mayra may well, but he's North Carolina. 2389 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:56,000 Speaker 6: Correct from there, you know that he can't play. I 2390 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,040 Speaker 6: just would push back really slightly, like you don't have 2391 01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:00,920 Speaker 6: a chance. So the nine didn't have a chance to 2392 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,080 Speaker 6: win on Sunday, and the Niners defense was so dominant 2393 01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 6: that they allowed four hundred and sixty yards of offense. Like, 2394 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,360 Speaker 6: come on, Like it was a good game. It went 2395 01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 6: back and forth. I mean, there's a difference between blowing 2396 01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,640 Speaker 6: a ten point lead like with five minutes left in 2397 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 6: the game, or with eight minutes left in the game 2398 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 6: like they did against the Chiefs the first time they 2399 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,600 Speaker 6: were up ten to nothing in the second quarter. Like, 2400 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 6: they didn't blow a lead, Like you don't even like this, 2401 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,920 Speaker 6: I understand it. It goes down. Yes, it was a 2402 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 6: good back and forth game. And you know, for all 2403 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,800 Speaker 6: the ineptitude that Shanahan had on offense, the call of 2404 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,000 Speaker 6: that or the email or that rode in a little 2405 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,800 Speaker 6: while ago was right. The last three or four times 2406 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,400 Speaker 6: that the Chiefs got the ball, they scored so of 2407 01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 6: the Niners. They were losing late in the game, they 2408 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,880 Speaker 6: had to go out and score. Then it was tied. 2409 01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,400 Speaker 6: They had to go out and score. Then it was 2410 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,160 Speaker 6: tied again, they had to go out and score. They 2411 01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 6: kept scoring. 2412 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember saying early in the second half, 2413 01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:01,040 Speaker 1: if the forty nine Ers defense can't pitch a shut 2414 01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 1: off from here, that's it's over. And that wasn't the case, 2415 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,000 Speaker 1: but they kept in the game. So Paul's like forty 2416 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,280 Speaker 1: nine ers kept up. 2417 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,759 Speaker 6: And I think, listen, do I think that brock Perty 2418 01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,960 Speaker 6: played a great game. No. I think he played better 2419 01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,360 Speaker 6: than he did in the previous two playoff games. But 2420 01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,719 Speaker 6: that was his best game of the playoffs. Yeah, and 2421 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:19,439 Speaker 6: I don't. 2422 01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,080 Speaker 1: Think he was great, but he was under siege. 2423 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,040 Speaker 6: He really was under a ton of pressure in the 2424 01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,840 Speaker 6: second half. I think that one of your one of 2425 01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,720 Speaker 6: your stats, Evan, I'm gonna use that as you know, 2426 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,000 Speaker 6: Paul shows Evans Evan stats indicated that he was under 2427 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:34,720 Speaker 6: He was under the most pressure that he's ever been 2428 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,400 Speaker 6: under in a game, like technically percentage wise of zero 2429 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 6: fifty in the second half. So I thought, considering the stakes, 2430 01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:47,479 Speaker 6: in the circumstances, I thought he played pretty well. Uh. 2431 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,160 Speaker 6: He almost threw a pick on the first play of 2432 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,120 Speaker 6: overtime that hit Deebo Samuel. I know he was injured 2433 01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:54,160 Speaker 6: right in the hands, and he dropped it. 2434 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:57,600 Speaker 8: I gotta say, I love Deebo Samuel, and in some 2435 01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,439 Speaker 8: of the not very good for him, he had a 2436 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:02,720 Speaker 8: bad drop earlier in the game. 2437 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,080 Speaker 6: He was invisible in that game. He didn't have anything. 2438 01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,759 Speaker 1: I know, Max writes in from Santa Barbara, please stop 2439 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,719 Speaker 1: with the ass kicking of Mahomes ask kissing. I should 2440 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,760 Speaker 1: say of Mahomes, We're please. I know I'd like to 2441 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,760 Speaker 1: ask you experts this. Instead of kicking the field goal 2442 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,840 Speaker 1: in overtime, wouldn't have been better to give it to McCaffrey. 2443 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,920 Speaker 1: The chances of him stopping him for no gain again, 2444 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:26,160 Speaker 1: I think was slim. 2445 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 6: If he doesn't get he needed four yards, so no 2446 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 6: gain wouldn't have done anything. 2447 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,200 Speaker 1: If he doesn't get in, he may gain two or 2448 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,120 Speaker 1: three yards. So now the Quiffy's is that what he's calling. 2449 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what Quiffy's means. Have to go sixty 2450 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,639 Speaker 1: yards or so to field goal range, starting at say 2451 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 1: the two or three, rather than the starting of the 2452 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 1: twenty five and needing to only go forty five yards 2453 01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:46,760 Speaker 1: to the field goal. 2454 01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,960 Speaker 8: Right, there's the argument of the go for it on 2455 01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 8: four it down because they have to drive. 2456 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,080 Speaker 6: I would make the argument only because that's what he 2457 01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,480 Speaker 6: did earlier in the game. Why the inconsistency? 2458 01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 1: Get Mayfield as a free agent draft a big, fast 2459 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,879 Speaker 1: receiver can catch, get a tackle, and draft a quarterback 2460 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,200 Speaker 1: in the second or third round. We'll most likely have 2461 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 1: a top five pick again anyway in twenty twenty five. 2462 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,240 Speaker 1: Love the show listening, since. 2463 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 8: What's the point of the Baker Mayfield If you're gonna 2464 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,000 Speaker 8: have a top five pick, if he's not gonna make 2465 01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 8: you a relevant team, then why are we signing Baker Mayfield? 2466 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 1: I think because you're not drafting a quarterback to the 2467 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 1: second or third. 2468 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 6: Round, right, So sign a guy like Jacobe Brissett for 2469 01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,120 Speaker 6: a quarter of the price and let him do what 2470 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:26,840 Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield makes faster. 2471 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,240 Speaker 4: Boom prosper You know. 2472 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,040 Speaker 5: I think the one thing we should probably just remind 2473 01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:33,880 Speaker 5: the NFL right now, probably make him feel a little better, 2474 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:34,879 Speaker 5: is that Brady lost. 2475 01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 4: To Eli Manning twice in the Super Bowl, So. 2476 01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,599 Speaker 6: It's not impossible that might not feel better. 2477 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,679 Speaker 5: Well for the NFL, like we we're gonna just listen 2478 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 5: to Patrick Mahomes every now, you know. 2479 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,760 Speaker 6: And by the way, he starts off by saying, can 2480 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,599 Speaker 6: we stop with the ass kicking kissing? I mean kissing, yeah, 2481 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,320 Speaker 6: kiss because if they had just gone for it on 2482 01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,439 Speaker 6: the fourth down, so that means Mahomes witness scored probably 2483 01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,040 Speaker 6: would have right Like you said nothing about Mahomes not 2484 01:51:59,080 --> 01:51:59,559 Speaker 6: doing what. 2485 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,120 Speaker 1: We kind of kissing mahomes ass. But I think he 2486 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:02,720 Speaker 1: deserves it. 2487 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,240 Speaker 6: What am I supposed to say? Actually he stands like 2488 01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,400 Speaker 6: I was fine. I just happened to think he just 2489 01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:10,599 Speaker 6: dragged a very average team to a super Bowl. 2490 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,200 Speaker 1: Chatty Cathy writes in did you know like that Taylor 2491 01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,800 Speaker 1: Swift had Kanye Way West removed from the super Bowl? 2492 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,200 Speaker 1: I didn't see that? Is that true? I don't think 2493 01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,719 Speaker 1: that power flex. Also, what was up with her and Goodell? 2494 01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 1: Looked like they were having a heated conversation. I didn't 2495 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 1: see that either. 2496 01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:25,880 Speaker 6: They were talking. 2497 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see it as being heated. I just 2498 01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,280 Speaker 1: I think he should be thanking her for bringing in 2499 01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:33,880 Speaker 1: new revenue to the league. Right. 2500 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,080 Speaker 8: How you know how many articles I saw over the 2501 01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:41,120 Speaker 8: weekend of son and you know his father and daughter. 2502 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 1: That was ridiculous. 2503 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:50,160 Speaker 8: I don't care ith God, it's just according. 2504 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,240 Speaker 1: To what's that her having Kanye. 2505 01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 6: West apparently into upstage Taylor Swift the super Bowl, but 2506 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 6: the the pop star ideas of her own. 2507 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,880 Speaker 8: I would assume that Kanye got himself kicked ot. 2508 01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that those stories about how Taylor is bringing 2509 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,759 Speaker 1: fathers and daughters together, I mean, that's. 2510 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,880 Speaker 6: That is enough, so wrong enough. 2511 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 4: It's nice. 2512 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure about that. 2513 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,880 Speaker 6: I'll tell you the best part of this one, at 2514 01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,960 Speaker 6: least all the shots, all the shots of the suite 2515 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,960 Speaker 6: for the Super Bowl involved Blakelyewly. 2516 01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,479 Speaker 8: So I was in As soon as I saw her, 2517 01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:23,519 Speaker 8: I was like Paul's gonna be. 2518 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,200 Speaker 6: She was dressed like she was straight out of She 2519 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 6: was right out of the town. 2520 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,120 Speaker 4: She like she wore like the town outfits. She had on, 2521 01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:29,920 Speaker 4: like a win wind suit and the whole thing. 2522 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:30,639 Speaker 6: That's your point. 2523 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,799 Speaker 4: I think I thought she was terrible actress in that movie. 2524 01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:34,920 Speaker 6: I don't care she acted. 2525 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,599 Speaker 5: Look at you coming in here to my Bob right now, 2526 01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,120 Speaker 5: Matt framing him. 2527 01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,040 Speaker 6: We didn't spend nearly enough time on Matt. 2528 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 1: I have a developing opinion on the game last Sunday. 2529 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 1: We can debate the overtime and what Shanahan deciding or 2530 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 1: the nerds and all that stuff. The forty nine ers 2531 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 1: had a chance to extend the lead early in the 2532 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,640 Speaker 1: second half after Mahomes through the interception setting up a 2533 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,280 Speaker 1: short field for the forty nine ers up by seven, 2534 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 1: and when they went backwards and forced to punt, that 2535 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 1: was the moment where the forty nine ers became tighter 2536 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,840 Speaker 1: than the rope you used to climb in gym class. 2537 01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:11,840 Speaker 8: Except they went down the field multiple times in the 2538 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,599 Speaker 8: fourth quarter in overtime, but tight while while losing. 2539 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:20,639 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean, like you can't just score every 2540 01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,559 Speaker 6: time you get the ball, like Mahomes still a pick 2541 01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,120 Speaker 6: on that drive, right to set that up, Like they 2542 01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:26,240 Speaker 6: didn't score on that drive. 2543 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,880 Speaker 8: I got two calls from North Carolina, though I'm tempted 2544 01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:32,720 Speaker 8: to all right. 2545 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,760 Speaker 6: They are well, they way in Well. 2546 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Todd's into this, but we'll see Todds 2547 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,040 Speaker 1: in North Carolina's opinion. 2548 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:45,080 Speaker 6: North Carolina, what's my opinion on what Drake may yes 2549 01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:45,520 Speaker 6: or no. 2550 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 11: Play? 2551 01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,680 Speaker 10: I got taken by my brother in laws the game, 2552 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,480 Speaker 10: and not that I only saw one game. I'm not 2553 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,120 Speaker 10: don't have much of opinion. 2554 01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:56,400 Speaker 1: But at least you saw a game. 2555 01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, the Super Bowl was kind of boring for me. Yeah, 2556 01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:06,840 Speaker 10: I want points, I like better than defense and on 2557 01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:08,560 Speaker 10: that the old under. 2558 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 6: Was forty seven and a half and it landed on 2559 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 6: forty seven. 2560 01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:12,920 Speaker 1: So wow, amazing how they do it? 2561 01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:17,040 Speaker 10: Really is Ben Roethlisberger Tom Brady type quarterback done? Like, 2562 01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,240 Speaker 10: are we not going to have like a an arm 2563 01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:19,960 Speaker 10: sling in. 2564 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 6: Ben roethlis anymore. That's Josh Allen. Wow, Josh. 2565 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2566 01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,920 Speaker 6: But when Ben Roethlisberger was Josh Allen's age, that's how 2567 01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,200 Speaker 6: we played. Not quite, I would. 2568 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,800 Speaker 8: It's not as good Allenes like you know, there are 2569 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,000 Speaker 8: I understand what he's saying. 2570 01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,520 Speaker 6: I just maybe he was. 2571 01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so is the Will you ever see a 2572 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:43,760 Speaker 1: great pocket passer? 2573 01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:44,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2574 01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I think so. 2575 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Mahomes is a great pocket passer. 2576 01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,440 Speaker 5: He just has an athleticism to scoot when he has to. 2577 01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 5: But it's not like his game is all on his 2578 01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:53,920 Speaker 5: legs like I did. I mean, that's what makes him 2579 01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:54,280 Speaker 5: so good. 2580 01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,000 Speaker 1: But I think in today's NFL, the defenses. Everyone talked 2581 01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:01,520 Speaker 1: about offenses and Shanahan and that, you know, uh McVeigh, 2582 01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:04,400 Speaker 1: but the defenses have also become more complex, and I 2583 01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:07,400 Speaker 1: think if you can't extend plays with your feet or 2584 01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,800 Speaker 1: at least get yourself out of trouble and pick up 2585 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 1: those yards when everything else is broken down, it's hard 2586 01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,760 Speaker 1: to succeed now in today's NFL because of the defenses. 2587 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:17,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say too, I think everybody has 2588 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,920 Speaker 5: to be athletic, like the days of you know, guys, 2589 01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Tom was what he was, but Drew, 2590 01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:23,480 Speaker 5: I mean just guys who are statues back there. 2591 01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 4: I don't think that's gonna fly anymore. 2592 01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,000 Speaker 5: You need somebody who at least has some you know, 2593 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,280 Speaker 5: even Mac like Mac is probably the modern version of that. 2594 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,680 Speaker 5: Like and he's not a terrible athlete, but you need 2595 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,960 Speaker 5: to have a little bit of his capability to be 2596 01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 5: a quarterback. 2597 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,600 Speaker 8: I think until until offensive line plays starts to catch 2598 01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,840 Speaker 8: up to pass rushers, right then you have to have some. 2599 01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 1: But even then, I mean, that's a hat on a hat. 2600 01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,120 Speaker 1: But you know, like even go back to the days 2601 01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,600 Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh started doing it with the red Dog and 2602 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 1: dropping guys out and bringing guys in from different areas. 2603 01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:54,760 Speaker 1: You you know. 2604 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:58,240 Speaker 8: It's not that dog he had. 2605 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 4: What green dogs. 2606 01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they called it red dog. 2607 01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:09,640 Speaker 6: Blitz red dogs. Absolutely, yeah, thank you, thank you. Every 2608 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,520 Speaker 6: once in a while the stays you go. 2609 01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:15,080 Speaker 1: So it's not just a matter of having a five 2610 01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,920 Speaker 1: good offensive linemen. You have to be smart. You have 2611 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,120 Speaker 1: to have a quarterback who can read what's going on, 2612 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, and get out of trouble if he has to. 2613 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,720 Speaker 6: It's can you just go stand over there. 2614 01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:32,440 Speaker 1: Sorry, Red Dog. Hector's in Providence. What's up? Hector? 2615 01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,080 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, thanks taking my call. 2616 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:38,040 Speaker 24: I just have a quick thought. 2617 01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,680 Speaker 17: So one thing that this fan. 2618 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,440 Speaker 24: Base needs to get in their heads is that the 2619 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,520 Speaker 24: days of the old Super Bowl runs is over with. 2620 01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,640 Speaker 16: Right, Yeah, we're not going to. 2621 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,440 Speaker 24: Sniff the playoffs, but at least the next two seasons 2622 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:55,919 Speaker 24: we have plenty of times to develop a quarterback. Jaydon Daniels, 2623 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,520 Speaker 24: Drake may whoever you want. But these people saying we 2624 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:04,360 Speaker 24: got to uh get a league quarterback off the list 2625 01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,320 Speaker 24: is kind of crazy to me. Most teams don't even 2626 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 24: have anything close to my homes and Josh Allen and 2627 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,800 Speaker 24: Joe Burrow. So I just think this fan base needs 2628 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:19,400 Speaker 24: to pipe down a little bit, realize situation, and know 2629 01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 24: that hey, we're gonna be rebuilding for a while. Right wait, 2630 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 24: John Mayo, I think you know, we stand a little 2631 01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:30,200 Speaker 24: bit of a chance. We might make a little bit 2632 01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:32,960 Speaker 24: of noise if we take a quarterback and it works out. 2633 01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,200 Speaker 24: But I just want to send it them. I just 2634 01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 24: wanted to send the mestics to pastination that you guys 2635 01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:40,560 Speaker 24: need to be patient. 2636 01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 6: Yeah all right, I'm good. 2637 01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what would we be saying right now, if 2638 01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:47,760 Speaker 1: a couple of little things went the other way for 2639 01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:49,640 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and they pulled that game out, 2640 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean they were that close. Let's face it, what 2641 01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,560 Speaker 1: would we be saying, like, you can win the way 2642 01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:56,440 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. 2643 01:58:58,240 --> 01:58:59,080 Speaker 6: Take five years? 2644 01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to build that. 2645 01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,680 Speaker 6: I would push back on the like, you can't expect 2646 01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,720 Speaker 6: to make the playoffs in the next two like next year, 2647 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:10,480 Speaker 6: I'm pretty realistic. That's a lot of overhaul to hit, 2648 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 6: not the least of which is the quarterback. Right, but 2649 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,200 Speaker 6: in two years you can't. You can't put together a 2650 01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 6: couple of good back to back off season because a competitive. 2651 01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,160 Speaker 1: Because we don't have the quarterback. It's more likely than 2652 01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,880 Speaker 1: not it's gonna. 2653 01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,280 Speaker 6: If you don't have a quarterback. I agree, but it's 2654 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,120 Speaker 6: also a difference between making the playoffs and making a 2655 01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,560 Speaker 6: run in the playoffs. And I think in two years 2656 01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,280 Speaker 6: you can realistically be expecting to do what they did 2657 01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:36,640 Speaker 6: last year and have the last game of the season 2658 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,120 Speaker 6: to be contingent of making the playoffs. I don't think 2659 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:39,880 Speaker 6: that's outrageous. 2660 01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,480 Speaker 8: The Houston Texans Indianapolis Colts, why not if. 2661 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,320 Speaker 1: We get CJ. Stroud, we could be right in it, 2662 01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 1: all right, No. 2663 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:47,320 Speaker 6: But you're right. 2664 01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2665 01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:50,960 Speaker 6: Like that's how like if Jayden Daniels is any good 2666 01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 6: or Drake May is any good? I mean, obviously Drake 2667 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,800 Speaker 6: May stinks according to North Carolina at Large. 2668 01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:57,640 Speaker 10: Ye. 2669 01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of 2670 02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:03,720 Speaker 1: It's Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday. Cast twenty two 2671 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:08,480 Speaker 1: is on Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday. 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