WEBVTT - Big Guy with Rachel Feinstein

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>How's my Orca? Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 3>Sunny and beautiful? Everything's going very well in my Orca.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did you have this past week?

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<v Speaker 1>I have my sisters and I have about five girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really nice. We've been having a really nice

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<v Speaker 3>time together. I've been training everyone physically training.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the age of my group when Ange is not

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<v Speaker 3>around and is my lunatic friend for Whistler who runs

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<v Speaker 3>marathons in three and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly, the amount of like e bike hours that we

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<v Speaker 4>logged when we were there, and I only did like

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<v Speaker 4>half of them, and I still logged play.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I love about it being in

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<v Speaker 3>my Orca is my thighs are so firm. They are

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<v Speaker 3>so firm from riding my fucking bike all day long

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<v Speaker 3>and exercising and walking up and down to the lighthouse.

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<v Speaker 3>My legs almost get thicker, and I love the density

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when I ski a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot, my thighs get bigger, you know, So I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to keep my thighs big all year round for skiing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they say, thick thighs save lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right? Okay, well I'm saving I've left

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<v Speaker 1>and right with my thick thighs.

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<v Speaker 4>I have been working out with a trainer and like,

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<v Speaker 4>all she has me to do is squats, and my

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<v Speaker 4>ass is like round and fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh it's so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes two weeks to get your ass lifted.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to do get your ass lifted, all

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<v Speaker 3>you do is but exercises for two weeks and your

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<v Speaker 3>ass lifts. I never had an asking my sisters don't

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<v Speaker 3>have asses. I am the only one who's cultivated one

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<v Speaker 3>because I realized you could make one out of nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>out of out of a pancake.

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<v Speaker 2>Chelsea, I have a little dipsy doodle, a dipsy doo.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is somebody who wrote in after our Jane

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<v Speaker 4>Fonda episode. We had that email from Jen who had

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<v Speaker 4>been a sex worker and was having trouble dating. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is from Jill, who was also a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 4>She says to your Chelsea, I'm a former stripper who

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<v Speaker 4>met my husband in the strip club twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and yes we're still together. I know two other women

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<v Speaker 4>who met their husband and strip clubs and are still

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<v Speaker 4>together because their relationships morphed over time. They picked people

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<v Speaker 4>who could quote see who they were. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>these men are all that rare, because I've been out

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<v Speaker 4>as a stripper throughout my and have had relationships with

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<v Speaker 4>men who respect me all my life, in work and

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<v Speaker 4>in friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it easy meeting a partner.

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<v Speaker 4>No, But if you carry yourself with confidence and self assuredness,

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<v Speaker 4>people will see that you demand respect. If anyone says

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<v Speaker 4>anything out of line, read them. We all develop that

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<v Speaker 4>skill on the job. Finding a good partner, in general

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<v Speaker 4>is difficult. What are the key characteristics you want to

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<v Speaker 4>find in a partner? Put those first. Don't be ashamed

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<v Speaker 4>of your past, wear it like a badge of honor.

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<v Speaker 4>Good you are resilient and amazing and have done it

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<v Speaker 4>and then started your own business. I went on to

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<v Speaker 4>make documentaries, write plays, screenplays, win awards doing that, and

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<v Speaker 4>then became a boxer twenty fifteen National Golden Gloves Champion.

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<v Speaker 4>My husband accepts and loves all those versions of me.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find that too.

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<v Speaker 5>Love it side.

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<v Speaker 3>What a positive, optimistic note, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>We have such fucking great listeners. That's awesome, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great because if someone out there has had this

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<v Speaker 4>very specific experience. There's somebody else out there who knows

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<v Speaker 4>exactly how they feel. But anyway, should we get to

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<v Speaker 4>today's a guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Our guest today is a hilarious comedian who who's on

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<v Speaker 3>tour right now and her new special Big Guy, debut

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<v Speaker 3>in the top ten of Netflix, now streaming on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Rachel Feinstein.

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<v Speaker 3>Rachel, how excited are we that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>to tour together?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm so excited to be in Hawaii. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to Hawaii together in July. Right, we're going to July.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to Honolulu and Maui.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't wait for some Hawaii whoring. I know it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I love to get my groove on in

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<v Speaker 3>Hawaii because it's filled with my type of men.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that.

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<v Speaker 3>Large samoan, large samoan looking men. That's my type, hefty samoan.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I like elderly men and large samoan type builds. I

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<v Speaker 3>like that build for a friend or for a lover.

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<v Speaker 3>I like a corpulent figure, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like while you're worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you First, I want to congratulate you on your

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<v Speaker 3>new special A Big Guy, which was just recently premiered

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<v Speaker 3>on Netflix where everybody can stream it. Congratulations, Are you

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<v Speaker 3>happy with your special? Did you love it?

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<v Speaker 6>It was hard to watch myself, but now the worst. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Editing it, I was just like, shut up, what if

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<v Speaker 6>I ever needed to say? I kept screaming at myself

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<v Speaker 6>and calling myself a pig. And I screamed that so

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<v Speaker 6>much that I asked one of the producers if I

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<v Speaker 6>could call the special America's Favorite Pig, and they said no,

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<v Speaker 6>But I still think it would be a fun, loving

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<v Speaker 6>name for a show.

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<v Speaker 3>It would America's Favorite Pig is great, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you could have called it that. But I thank you, Shelsea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>why would Why would anyone stop that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's up to you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like saying, I want to name my book America's

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<v Speaker 3>Favorite Pig. What is they going to say? Like, No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not going to be popular maybe, but go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to a set of mine the other

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<v Speaker 3>night because I did a bunch of new stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, can you guys give me you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the recording of that, and I was listening to it

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<v Speaker 3>to it for less than two minutes before I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>who fucking cares what I said. I cannot listen to

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<v Speaker 3>this bitch for one more second. I want to close

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<v Speaker 3>myself like a box when I listen. I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 3>if you ever needed to get out there? Especially when

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<v Speaker 3>I really use the stage and just kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>saunter around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do that all the time. I saunter. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's better to use the stage.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Alifanakis once said to me, you have to use

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<v Speaker 3>the stage as a comedian. And before he said that,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't walk around on stage, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what does he mean by that? And then I started

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<v Speaker 3>walking around on stage. I'm like, I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>more dynamic than just standing there like yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to just stand somewhere like you are talking. You

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<v Speaker 3>would normally be moving around.

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<v Speaker 6>So these are profound, core self esteem issues that I

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<v Speaker 6>have and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 3>What other self esteem issues do you want to work on?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get to it because I can help. What kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bathing suit equipment do you think you'll be bringing

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<v Speaker 3>to Hawaii?

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel? When you mentioned on Instagram that I should wear

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<v Speaker 1>a thong. I was like, no one needs that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I look good in the thong.

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<v Speaker 3>No one should be wearing a thong. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>thongs are so disgusting. I don't even want to wear

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<v Speaker 3>them myself. I don't even want to wear them as

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<v Speaker 3>underwear anymore. It's too many, it's too problematic. There are

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<v Speaker 3>too many things, like I have to phase out into

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<v Speaker 3>a full panty. The problem with a full panty, though,

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<v Speaker 3>is that when you wear very tight jeans, it flattens

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<v Speaker 3>my ass. And I don't have a bulbous ass, so

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<v Speaker 3>I need all the lift I can get. When I

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<v Speaker 3>wear a full panty, it does a mush you know, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a sadness to a full panty. It smushes me.

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<v Speaker 6>But a thong, no one needs that. I'd send somebody

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<v Speaker 6>into a low grade depression. There's a real supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 6>Is shoe with my dumb ass and its long?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's not really.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't really think that I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>a thong and thought that looks good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's hypothetically good, yeah, but no, yeah, I need

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<v Speaker 6>like unless I'm like Paris filtered like Triple Paris filtered nobody,

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<v Speaker 6>no one needs that at all. But I'm excited for Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 6>Like that's something I need right now. Like I've been well,

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<v Speaker 6>you've been hustling. Yeah, yeah, I've been hurling my body

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<v Speaker 6>to every dumb place on the road, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I need to lay still on a beach right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I know that your Special debut in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's very exciting, which means people are loving it.

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<v Speaker 6>That was cool, And your DMS this in the last year,

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<v Speaker 6>You're sending me a couple of messages about some dumb video.

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<v Speaker 6>I like made my day, And I can't explain to

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<v Speaker 6>you how much because you know, I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 6>doing stand up for what feels like seventy years, so

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<v Speaker 6>I really feel like I'm just in the winter of

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<v Speaker 6>my life right now. So the fact that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, okay, people watch it, I was just

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<v Speaker 6>like didn't want it to get buried. So it felt

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<v Speaker 6>really cool that like people are actually watching it now,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, I just want to start writing Uber

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<v Speaker 6>blacks at least, you know, that's kind of my goal

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<v Speaker 6>with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's been I did everything the.

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<v Speaker 6>Long way, Like, I've been a road woman for a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of years, so like I need this.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you sleep with a lot of comics on the road?

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<v Speaker 6>Just so much head Chelsea, There wasn't a moment I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't on my so much dick sucking.

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<v Speaker 7>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where dick sucking really comes into its own. It's

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<v Speaker 3>on the road.

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<v Speaker 6>My whole family too. Yeah, just generations of Feinstein's just

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<v Speaker 6>it's just really getting passed around just so that I

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<v Speaker 6>can get this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Generations of dick sucking.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that's amazing, A long line of godless horse. My

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<v Speaker 6>grandmother said when I was a very small girl, I

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<v Speaker 6>never met a dick that I wasn't fond of, not one,

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<v Speaker 6>not one dick.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't have I wasn't good at any aspect of

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<v Speaker 6>the business. There's no business left and silly to even

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<v Speaker 6>say that, but whatever it was, I wasn't good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just on the road forever.

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<v Speaker 6>So like it feels, I'm just hoping this helps and

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<v Speaker 6>it like can can move some tickets for me changed

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<v Speaker 6>my life a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Right absolutely. Let's how how long have you been doing

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<v Speaker 1>stand up? Really? Like twenty four five? Twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I moved to New York when I was like

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<v Speaker 6>seventeen with this guy and his bands called Dick's sister.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I Dick's sister dumped me, and I stayed

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<v Speaker 6>in New York and he kind of like undumped me

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<v Speaker 6>and redumped me a few times, like I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 6>taking the dump, and I would try to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>hang near his house in Staten Island where he lived

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<v Speaker 6>with the rest of his band. And then I just

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<v Speaker 6>stayed here and started doing open mics and stuff and

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<v Speaker 6>getting fired from different jobs first, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 6>at best I was gonna be like homelessh if I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't do this, you know, like there wasn't I wish

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<v Speaker 6>I could have been one of those people that was

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<v Speaker 6>like about to be a doctor. But I made this

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<v Speaker 6>like noble choice to leave it all for the arts.

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<v Speaker 6>But this was it, Like I was failed wildly in school.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and your husband's a fireman, which you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about in the special.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's an American hero.

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<v Speaker 5>He is.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a technical hero, but he infuriates me like he's

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<v Speaker 6>an emotional desert but a fun loving guy, a good

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<v Speaker 6>hang for sure. Yeah, firemen are great like for you

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<v Speaker 6>could say anything to them. That's that's what works. He's

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<v Speaker 6>my husband's almost like an accidental feminist, Like he he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Care what I do.

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<v Speaker 6>I could I could be out doing whatever with stand out,

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<v Speaker 6>like I could spend the night at some comics house,

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<v Speaker 6>get passed around. No, but just really like just some

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<v Speaker 6>platonic guy that doesn't even see me as a woman.

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<v Speaker 6>But Pete wouldn't question that. He's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>you're on your own. But if I ever explained what

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<v Speaker 6>a feminist was to him, he probably thinks they're like

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<v Speaker 6>Nazis or something like they run a little dumb in

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<v Speaker 6>that way. But strangely enough, it took a fireman because

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<v Speaker 6>every other guy like they got a kick out of

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<v Speaker 6>what I did for like you know, like a week,

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<v Speaker 6>and then they were like forget this, like she's working

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<v Speaker 6>on Christmas or and Pete is working on Christmas. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of like he gets the life. And they

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<v Speaker 6>have their thing and in a weird way like firefighting,

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<v Speaker 6>Like they have a kitchen table where they hang and

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<v Speaker 6>when you walk in as a regular person, you can

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<v Speaker 6>feel the chemicals in the room change and it feels like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like at the cellar when a normal person

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<v Speaker 6>we call them civilians, which is hilarious, but like when

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<v Speaker 6>a normal person walks into the room, like you can

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<v Speaker 6>feel that whole energy change in the room. Like ah,

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<v Speaker 6>like somebody will a comic said this recently. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>he brought his like civilian girlfriend and she had to

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<v Speaker 6>sit at the table. But it's kind of similar, like

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<v Speaker 6>and he has that weird world that we have, so

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<v Speaker 6>there's not really any envy there. And comics and firemen

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<v Speaker 6>like they don't want anything the other one has. So

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<v Speaker 6>he's a pretty good hang with comics. He doesn't try

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<v Speaker 6>to be funny, like he's a good laugher, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't step on anything they're trying to do, So

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<v Speaker 6>it strangely like works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about your child? How long have you had

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<v Speaker 1>your child?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My god, where is she?

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<v Speaker 6>She is four years old. I have a little kid,

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<v Speaker 6>So you've had her for four years? Is that kind

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<v Speaker 6>of for four years?

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<v Speaker 1>That is cool?

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<v Speaker 3>How how is motherhood going for you as a comedian,

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<v Speaker 3>as a working woman, late night working woman, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm not pulling anything off completely, But

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<v Speaker 6>I have a lot of female comic friends and I

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<v Speaker 6>still relate to comedians more than like regular moms, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So like I'm on like a chat with Rosebud and

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<v Speaker 6>Whitney and other other comic moms that kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>help each other with weird tips on how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Wolf has a kid.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just talking with her at the Seller last night,

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<v Speaker 6>so that helps me try to like figure it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in any way pulling it off.

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<v Speaker 6>Like just before we got on this zoom, I bribed

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<v Speaker 6>my daughter with like a series of things. There was

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<v Speaker 6>just so that she wouldn't walk in this room, like

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<v Speaker 6>there was a bribe, and then there's like a threat

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<v Speaker 6>of a bribe.

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<v Speaker 1>To being taken away.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I'll give you this, and if you walk

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<v Speaker 6>in here, I'll take this away, which I call it thrive.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's like a series of like hard negotiations that

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<v Speaker 6>went on before I brought that random teenager in here

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<v Speaker 6>to do the audio. So I'm not pulling anything off,

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<v Speaker 6>but I feel like she kind of at this point

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<v Speaker 6>she's not I'm not a scheduled person. She's grown up,

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<v Speaker 6>half in a firehouse, like half on the road with me,

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<v Speaker 6>so like she's kind of not she's not expecting that,

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<v Speaker 6>like she knows.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks at me like she can tell I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of anything. Yeah, that's how I felt growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew my parents had no say Like I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is you guys are not making decisions around here,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'll come in hot and take over.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean because first of all, nothing bad comes from

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<v Speaker 3>a girl, especially that grows up a little faster.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's always yields good results. Yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Yeah, shake it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You shake out your naughtiness when you're younger, and then

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<v Speaker 3>by the time you're like in your twenties.

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<v Speaker 6>You're overall that well maybe thirty. I completely agree with

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<v Speaker 6>you because I was a really bad kid. I did

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<v Speaker 6>acid when I was like thirteen, like every week again,

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<v Speaker 6>I had like an appointment to do acid with like

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<v Speaker 6>six of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean we were just deep pigs.

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<v Speaker 6>We would go up on like some sign in this

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<v Speaker 6>neighborhood and just moon people in the area. We're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we're mooning now, Like we had our asses out all

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<v Speaker 6>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We were always doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 6>And then by the time I was like seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 6>moved to New York with dumb Dick's sister. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd done all the kind of ridiculousness I'd gotten out

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<v Speaker 6>of my system, and I was able to like focus

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<v Speaker 6>a little more on like stand up. I do think

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<v Speaker 6>it's those kids that like really run a tight ship

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<v Speaker 6>in high school then they start their real problematic horring

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<v Speaker 6>later on or drug use or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with that. Better to get the horror

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<v Speaker 3>out soon, early, early, getting rid of the horror early

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can really start to thrive in your

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<v Speaker 3>twenties and thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was definitely like a I was a problem.

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<v Speaker 6>I know somebody that knows you. He said you were

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<v Speaker 6>very cool. He grew up in Jersey near you. He

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<v Speaker 6>said you were always cool and could kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>hang from young, Like you seemed like a comic at

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<v Speaker 6>the table very young. Were you like hanging with a

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<v Speaker 6>group of guys or like what was your high school situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I in my mind, I was in high

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<v Speaker 3>school when I was born, Like I was trapped in

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<v Speaker 3>a baby's body and I felt like a woman the

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<v Speaker 3>minute I was born, and all I wanted to do was.

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<v Speaker 1>Woman, be a woman. I was like, when can I

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<v Speaker 1>get be a woman?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? That was my favorite line to say, Like soon

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be a woman and you won't be able to

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<v Speaker 3>tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>What to do. I know what you mean, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>I love.

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<v Speaker 6>I used to love the show when I was a

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<v Speaker 6>little kid called Moonlighting because I loved office tension. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I want to grow up one day and

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<v Speaker 6>have sexual tension in office. Those were my goals, if

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<v Speaker 6>totally totally.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, working in an office.

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<v Speaker 3>When you were watching Moonlighting, working in an office seemed sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>You were like, Oh, that's that's sexy, like an office

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<v Speaker 3>job with these skirts. I'll wear skirts and heels and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll fuck my colleague.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was so fun, right, so fun. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>played this game.

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<v Speaker 6>I talked about it in like my first half hour

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<v Speaker 6>many years ago. But I used to play this game

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<v Speaker 6>with my Catholic friend. I wanted to be Catholic so bad.

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted one of those names that like oh

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<v Speaker 6>rachel O, f Einstein or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And we would play this.

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<v Speaker 6>Game where she would throw me on the bed and

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<v Speaker 6>we worked in office. Her name is Harry Company, she

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<v Speaker 6>was the boss, and we would play this game in

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<v Speaker 6>her dad's office, like he had no idea where were

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<v Speaker 6>playing this weird horring game in his office. And she

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<v Speaker 6>would go like, Chrissy, get me my brief that I'd

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<v Speaker 6>be like, I'm doing the best I can, mister company.

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<v Speaker 6>My kids just get confused. I think that was all

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<v Speaker 6>for Moonlighting. It was very much like a porn Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I know porn's were not dissimilar to those programs. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess maybe because it was set in the same timeframe.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is a lot of porn represented, like foreign

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<v Speaker 3>like Vibes, and it shows like Moonlighting and what was

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<v Speaker 3>that other h not Dallas and Santa Barbara and Barbara

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a soap opera though. That was the day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I once tried to call Kelly Capwell directly because I

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<v Speaker 3>was so obsessed with Robin Wright that I looked up

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly Capwell. I was so young, I didn't understand that

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<v Speaker 3>was a character's name, and I looked her up in

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<v Speaker 3>the phone book in Santa Barbara and called someone named

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly Capwell.

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<v Speaker 1>I was obsessed with that bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgeous, the most beautiful family of all time.

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<v Speaker 6>The actress's name is Marcy Walker. I was completely and

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<v Speaker 6>utterly obsessed with her. I would just like hump a

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<v Speaker 6>pillow and pretend it was cruise that like hot Latin cop. Also,

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<v Speaker 6>they were sending so many weird messages with that show

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<v Speaker 6>because something happened to her, like she was like assaulted

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<v Speaker 6>or something, and then she was always on this bed

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<v Speaker 6>getting extra attention from men at post assault, Like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't know what that was. She was like trying.

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<v Speaker 3>She had like a concussion for like nine weeks or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>like ninety weeks soapapera the that time where you know

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<v Speaker 3>you've been kidnapped three times in between that time. But

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<v Speaker 3>she was like lying in bed every episode so she

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<v Speaker 3>could go just basically to set her up for more

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<v Speaker 3>sexual assaults. And we're tuning in like we can't wait

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<v Speaker 3>to see it. We're like, when when's it gonna happen next?

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<v Speaker 6>She was so sick, and she was always kind of

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<v Speaker 6>dewey and hot and just everything. I wasn't just like

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<v Speaker 6>blonde and fucking like straight silky blonde. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>be her, And she was always laying on that bed

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<v Speaker 6>and then this hot cop would just keep coming back

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<v Speaker 6>and tending to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this is the life I want. I'm ordering

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<v Speaker 1>this life.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to lay on some kind of bed and

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<v Speaker 6>snack on it and just have somebody avenging something on

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<v Speaker 6>my behalf and.

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<v Speaker 1>Have your husband avenge of fire. Why can't he amage

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<v Speaker 1>my husband?

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to go missing for weeks before he

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<v Speaker 6>would look for me. It's like he's not jealous to

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<v Speaker 6>like such a problematic point. I've tried to make him jealous,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's like, yeah, he could give a shit, like

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<v Speaker 6>it would be somebody could make a suit out of

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<v Speaker 6>my skin and he wouldn't follow up. He's very anal

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<v Speaker 6>neat about like how stuff Like I feel like if

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<v Speaker 6>I was missing, he'd be emptying the dishwasher first, like

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<v Speaker 6>he'd finished emptying the dishwasher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He CA's non plussed by everything. That's the word for it,

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<v Speaker 3>nonplussed when you have no reaction, although it also says

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<v Speaker 3>it's also the opposite of having no reaction. It's having

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<v Speaker 3>no reaction and having the opposite of no reaction. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't that two different artists antonyms?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I do though, in my spare time, I

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<v Speaker 3>look words up in the dictionary to understand why I

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<v Speaker 3>can't speak clearly or correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>On that note, we're going to take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to hear about your conundrums with parents.

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<v Speaker 4>If there's something you're working through with a parent or

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<v Speaker 4>need some help navigating a relationship issue, right into Dear

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<v Speaker 4>Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're back with Rachel Feinstein, whose new special is

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<v Speaker 3>called Big Guy, Big Guy. Ask my husband's nickname for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he calls you big guy. Your husband calls you big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He does. Would you consider yourself the man of the house?

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<v Speaker 6>No, but I think he might. I mean, he just

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't know how to compliment a woman. He's like just

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<v Speaker 6>worthless romantically. He gave me, Chelsea, I'm not making this up,

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<v Speaker 6>a fifty dollars Amazon gift card for my birth like

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<v Speaker 6>fifty bucks. And you know, there was a moment where

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<v Speaker 6>he was like seventy five and then he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, nah, fifty not for her. Fifty feels right.

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<v Speaker 3>My driver once told me it was her birthday. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what did you get Carolyn? He said, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to give her some cash chill. I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not, you fucking idiot. Yeah, his wife Cash, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Billy, pull over, we need to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing makes me more delighted than when you trash men

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<v Speaker 6>for their nonsense. It's like my specific brand of what

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<v Speaker 6>delights me more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>When you call men to.

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<v Speaker 6>Task on their utter horseshit, it makes me so happy.

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<v Speaker 6>Cash is somehow worse than Amazon gift card. It's worse.

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<v Speaker 6>It's dumber.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, do I work for you? Understand? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that a tip? What is that?

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<v Speaker 6>The thing is that he lives with men at a

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<v Speaker 6>house for half his fucking life. Like he doesn't come

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<v Speaker 6>back smarter from this house he lives at. It's so

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<v Speaker 6>not hot. Men are so good at being not hot,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. It's like, that's not hot.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I need to explain to you that that's not hot?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? What do we have? What do we have in

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<v Speaker 1>store for us? Catherine?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>So many things.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Our first email comes from Richie. Richie says, Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure whether or not I should be upset

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<v Speaker 4>with my partner. We've been together for over three years

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<v Speaker 4>and currently have a house together and two dogs. Our

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<v Speaker 4>lives are very intertwined, and while I love him and.

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<v Speaker 1>Care very why could you fucking live together? This is

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<v Speaker 1>a weird thing to mention.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, clearly, we spent a lot of time together,

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<v Speaker 4>but some things from our past have come up recently.

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<v Speaker 4>While chatting with a mutual friend, I learned that in

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<v Speaker 4>our first year of dating, he didn't take us very

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<v Speaker 4>seriously and was constantly hitting on and flirting with other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to believe he isn't anymore, especially since

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<v Speaker 4>he's been honest about how he was in the first

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<v Speaker 4>year of dating. But since I'm just finding out about it,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling betrayed and honestly pissed. But we're a couple

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<v Speaker 4>literally a couple of years removed from this. So do

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<v Speaker 4>I have a right to be upset about it? Do

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<v Speaker 4>I need to just move on and accept?

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<v Speaker 1>I like this question. That is interesting. Question is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because that would piss me off.

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<v Speaker 3>Retroactively finding out that something happened when miss me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just the kind of recipe that would

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<v Speaker 1>piss me.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, I also feel like admitting to something and admitting

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<v Speaker 6>to just a little bit of what you actually did.

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<v Speaker 6>That is like one tried and true tactic of a

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<v Speaker 6>lifelong liar, Like I've been wildly cheated on, just like

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<v Speaker 6>an insane, unimaginable shit that I was like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 6>I would ask this question to her, is he jealous?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I do feel like the most jealous guys are

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<v Speaker 6>often cheating. And the guy that I remember, I've dated

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<v Speaker 6>a guy that was always always in my internet history.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time I would go away, he would accuse me

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<v Speaker 6>of all manner of things, and you know, like as

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<v Speaker 6>a comic on the road, I'm doing nothing but just

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<v Speaker 6>laying still with throbbing loneliness after my shows, like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just laying in bed as alone as I've ever been

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<v Speaker 6>in Des Moines. And he was inside of someone. Every

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<v Speaker 6>time I was out of town, Like I got an

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<v Speaker 6>email with the dates of the other other girl he

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<v Speaker 6>was fucking. She's like I was with them from two

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<v Speaker 6>twelve to two fourteen email. Yeah, yeah, And he was

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<v Speaker 6>very jealous and whenever I would come home, he would

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<v Speaker 6>accuse me of all kinds of insane things. I remember

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<v Speaker 6>he used to chase me around the apartment with my laptop.

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<v Speaker 6>I would try to pull it back from him. And

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<v Speaker 6>he would make these wild like noises. He'd be like,

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<v Speaker 6>how like these Howard d criest chill, But my lap's

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<v Speaker 6>up in the freezer. For some reason, I was used

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<v Speaker 6>to this too, Like I was like, Oh, he's probably

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<v Speaker 6>gonna make a left here dad to the freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was always kind of jogging over there.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I didn't suck a stick stick and

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<v Speaker 6>that he was putting the laptop in the freezer, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it was jis constant. He was always accusing

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<v Speaker 6>me of some insanity and he was doing it. So

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<v Speaker 6>my only I have no idea if this guy is

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<v Speaker 6>still cheating or not, or what he's up to, but

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<v Speaker 6>I do feel like it's one of the signs. Is

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<v Speaker 6>he extremely jealous and suspicious of you? And if he isn't,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like there's less likely it's less likely that

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<v Speaker 6>he's cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are they asking? Do they have a right

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<v Speaker 1>to be mad?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I will, I do. I think you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be mad.

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<v Speaker 3>A year is a long time to be hitting on

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<v Speaker 3>other people while you're like supposedly in a relationship, or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they weren't in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like they were I like the question. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have a good answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like three months you got to like cut

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<v Speaker 4>off the flirting with other people, like there's some there

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<v Speaker 4>could be some overlap, but like a year was too long.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think that's good advice. It doesn't sound idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like be pissed, but maybe don't break up

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<v Speaker 2>with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, definitely don't. Don't not acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 3>You you can, you don't have to break up with him,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to make sure he knows that you

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<v Speaker 3>know that and that that's not cool and you're upset.

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<v Speaker 1>You have every right to be upset about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Make him make it up to you. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of nice baths, a couple of nice dinners.

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<v Speaker 1>A bath, that's not going to make anything up. I

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<v Speaker 1>h yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>A friend of mine is starting dating this guy that

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<v Speaker 6>that draws her baths.

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<v Speaker 3>Think you were going to say that drew her a bath,

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<v Speaker 3>is what you were going to say. I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to say, yeah, you should go for it, she drew

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<v Speaker 3>her a bath.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, go to college. I went to fucking Dick's sister.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 6>I was going to say that, but a friend of

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<v Speaker 6>mine was dating guy for many years. Then their courtship

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<v Speaker 6>started by him drawing her bath, and I think that's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Started like they were friends and he drew her a bath.

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<v Speaker 6>And then he started turning the baths water on like

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<v Speaker 6>when they were Yeah, yeah, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 6>so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>She said that like a few months into their friendship

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<v Speaker 6>he would just kind of like turn on a bath

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<v Speaker 6>and be like, hey, and that was how we kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like pulled her in fucked her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's and then they would fuck in the bath.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he is really like to have sex and

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<v Speaker 3>baths or water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Confusing because you think the water will also serve as

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<v Speaker 3>a lubricant and that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>What works all. No, it's kind of frantic. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sexy situations. It's actually very it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a very dry situation.

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<v Speaker 6>Ironically, in a in a pool of water. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 6>would draw her a bath and then he.

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<v Speaker 1>Would bathe her for months. Oh no, and that's unacceptable. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. Nobody's bathing me.

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<v Speaker 2>Try me math, get the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Our next collor is Ali and Alie says, Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 4>my husband and I moved away from home about four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. We recently had a baby and have decided

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<v Speaker 4>to move closer to family and friends, as we both

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<v Speaker 4>work remotely and could use some interaction with other people.

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<v Speaker 4>We're about an hour's drive away from family. My husband's

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<v Speaker 4>family obviously missed us, and his mom from time to

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<v Speaker 4>time can be a bit much. However, my mom is

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<v Speaker 4>next level. Prior to me being pregnant, we never really talked,

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<v Speaker 4>as she was kind of a crappy parent. I'm having

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<v Speaker 4>a ton of anxiety about being closer to her, and

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<v Speaker 4>when we lift eleven and a half hours away, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been easy to keep her at arm's length, but now

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<v Speaker 4>she texts, calls, sends videos, etc. Multiple times a day.

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<v Speaker 4>When I say it's too much, she doesn't listen and says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the mom or grandma and I'll do whatever I want.

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<v Speaker 4>Then she proceeds to act like a toddler or spread

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<v Speaker 4>gossip through my family. She's the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 4>works in customer service but yells at waiters every time

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<v Speaker 4>we go out to eat. I'm wondering how to navigate

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<v Speaker 4>this relationship without blowing up. So she can see her

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<v Speaker 4>granddaughter every time I see her. After ten minutes, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going crazy. Help Allie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, Allie. That sounds like a fucking nightmare. Another

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<v Speaker 3>reason to never get married. Yeah, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 6>She sounds like a pretty I mean, she sounds like

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty unbearable twat. But I think you're I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to do the right thing by letting her have

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<v Speaker 6>access to your child. But I feel like it's less

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<v Speaker 6>as little as you can have to do with those plans,

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<v Speaker 6>the better, Like do it like have her take care

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<v Speaker 6>be with the kid the week you're going away, a

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<v Speaker 6>week you're going you know, horring in Hawaii? Ever take

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<v Speaker 6>care of the kid that weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any plans to whr in Hawaii coming up?

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<v Speaker 5>Not as it right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well obviously that can change in a minute. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>can change in an instant. So what has been You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>when you've tried to put up like a boundary with

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<v Speaker 3>her before, what has happened?

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<v Speaker 8>He basically says no, or she ignores it and will

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<v Speaker 8>text me like the next week and say so can

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<v Speaker 8>I come this week? Like just ignores the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I find that to be incredibly annoying. People who don't

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 3>listen to you when you're setting up a boundary. So

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I think you have to have like a more formal

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with her about it, just for your own sanity,

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>like it, don't worry about how she's going to react

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<v Speaker 3>to it, because people end up respecting boundaries in the

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 3>long term, they just don't like them in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So it works, And so

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to protect your like mental health and and

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<v Speaker 3>the health of your family because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be fucking annoyed at her all the time. But you

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>have to be firm because she's not used to have

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 3>anyone telling her that there is a boundary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, I feel like the thing with people that don't

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<v Speaker 6>respect boundaries is that when you draw them, it's this

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<v Speaker 6>big lead up to saying something, and it's not that

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 6>big of a deal at all, because first of all,

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 6>they might not even listen to it, to which you

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 6>have to double down on it. But that moment isn't

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<v Speaker 6>that big because like they don't care, like they're used

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 6>to bulldozing through those things. So the very least you

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 6>can do, like this is the beginning of a longer

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 6>stretch you have to go through with her. At the

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<v Speaker 6>very least, just say something and be it clear. When

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<v Speaker 6>you're that ludicrous, when you're acting that insanely, like this

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 6>person has been told this many times before, you're not

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean? This isn't like, so don't

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 6>worry about that.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Just say it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just say it, say it quick, say it fast,

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 6>and say it in as few words as possible. I

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 6>feel like that's true for everything. I always over explain, apologize, defend.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody told me this recently, Like justify, apologize. There's like

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<v Speaker 6>some acronym I'm forgetting, but defend. I think it's jade

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<v Speaker 6>or something. And try not to do any of those things.

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<v Speaker 6>And say it in as few words as possible in

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<v Speaker 6>a text or talk to your friend. Before you talk

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<v Speaker 6>to her, know exactly what you to say and nothing extra.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and hold your ground, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't say it and then get scared and run away,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Like say it, hold your ground. Machine understands that you

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<v Speaker 3>mean business like, maintain eye contact and be firm. You

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>have every right to do that for yourself. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be like a big deal. Exactly what Rachel's saying,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>it's just like you standing up for yourself, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>feel really good afterward and you might have to tell

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<v Speaker 3>her again, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Just practice advocating for yourself.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I really like that advice. I think to like

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<v Speaker 8>just holding my ground. I like to eye contact too,

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<v Speaker 8>and not just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I get crazy eyes so they get really fucking

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>scared and then they're like, all right, all right, all right,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking bother you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I need a guy for a while that, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>his mom was just upset about absolutely everything about me,

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 6>and a lot of the things about me were just

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 6>things that were never going to change, things that she

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<v Speaker 6>thought I would find insulting, like that I'm not domestic

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 6>or that I'm not clean. I'm like, tell me a

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<v Speaker 6>better story, bitch, Like I'm I I've been a pig

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.719
<v Speaker 6>my whole life. Like, and she was like, you know,

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 6>just kind of making these passive aggressive comments about what

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 6>I didn't do around the house, and I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not You could say a lot of things that will

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<v Speaker 6>immediately hurt me, but I'm like, and I learned to

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<v Speaker 6>just say to her very directly, oh I'm not going

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 6>to do that. I'm never going to do that. She'd like,

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.479
<v Speaker 6>you know what you should do? You should, you know,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 6>start gardening. I'm like, oh, that's not going to happen.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 6>That's not going to occur. I would say it then,

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<v Speaker 6>like the dumbest, simplest way possible. And I felt like

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<v Speaker 6>she like she just kind of stopped after a while,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 6>like she would come over and clean so much, like

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<v Speaker 6>in front of me to piss me off.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, no, that's helpful.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a friend over one since she was doing it,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 6>and he was like, if you want to get behind

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<v Speaker 6>the couch.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>She was comic.

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 6>He's like, if you want to get behind the couch,

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<v Speaker 6>she just get that corner right there, like he was

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<v Speaker 6>directing her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like I feel like with people like that, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, as direct as you could ever be, and she

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<v Speaker 6>wants what you have, like she wants access to that kid,

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying. So, like, you're in control

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 6>in this situation when we're more vulnerables, when we don't

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<v Speaker 6>need something, you need very little except to be left alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Is your partner somebody who can tolerate being around your.

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<v Speaker 8>Mom for a short amount of times? Yes, but he

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot more comfortable being direct with her. So

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<v Speaker 8>maybe I just like kind of follow his lead because

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<v Speaker 8>he does do that and it does work. She does

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<v Speaker 8>listen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, is this your mom or his mom?

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<v Speaker 5>This is my mom?

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<v Speaker 2>I go fucking tell her.

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<v Speaker 1>To fucking back off.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I was thinking this is his mom the whole time.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, you tell your mother to fucking stop it.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't get to overrule you. You're an adult woman

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 3>now with your own kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, that's what I tried.

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<v Speaker 8>I've recently tried being like I'm not asking, I'm telling,

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm just gonna stick to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to be very firm with your own mother.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't realize that either, that if it's until just now.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 6>I was laid to that party too, But yeah, if

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 6>it's your own mom.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it flipped in the mother in law thing there, And.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom is here right now, and she does a

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<v Speaker 6>thing when I tell her something clearly, she gets wounded

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 6>immediately and starts like weeping. So like I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>can you get something for my daughter's birthday party, like

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 6>to fill these goodie bags? Because I was like, on

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 6>these zooms yesterday and I was like, just get anything

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 6>to put in a goodie bag. She came back with

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 6>like sheets of like shit stickers, like poopsticker, and I

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 6>was like, Mom, I can't put this in her like

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 6>four year old goodie bagh's that's shit.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, I'm sorry, Rachel. I did the damn

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<v Speaker 1>best I could.

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<v Speaker 6>Like she starts weeping, and like five years ago, I

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<v Speaker 6>would have felt like I had just assaulted my mother

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<v Speaker 6>because she always weeps if you give her a note,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 6>you know. But now I'm just like, Mom, you can

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<v Speaker 6>weep or not, but I can't like put shit stickers

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<v Speaker 6>in here, like and I'm gonna get on this zoom now,

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 6>can you get something else?

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>And I also realized, like she's always going to.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Be weeping because that about me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about her alcoholic mother or something, you know what

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like I don't take it personally anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom always has like a sort of vaguely muttering

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<v Speaker 6>to herself for weeping, and I just know that that's

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<v Speaker 6>what she likes to do and she probably won't stop,

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 6>but she's here, she's helping out.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking on her her day weeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very good advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have a better relationship now.

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<v Speaker 8>I like the advice of not taking it myself, like

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 8>not personal at all, just living not personal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 6>My friend Jessica Curson really funny comics. She always says,

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<v Speaker 6>like people are insane. They are walking around furious all day.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything to do with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually, you know, like people are just not okay, they're

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 6>not well. Yeah, so if you can imagine a little sticker,

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<v Speaker 6>She always says that to me, just imagine a little

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 6>sticker on this person's forehead that says sick. And that's

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 6>always a helpful tool for me when I'm communicating to

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 6>not personalize.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, all right, Ali, is that helpful?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, so helpful.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to share it at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, Sally, Okay, bye bye. I think it's

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>funny that we both missed the main part of that.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have seen me last week. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I got the whole story backwards. I'm like, what, I'm

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>listening and then I'm confused. I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Our next caller is Ryan and he's calling in from Norway.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, dear Chelsea, Hi, I'm Ryan. I'm originally from

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<v Speaker 4>Vancouver Island and I've been living in Oslo, Norway for

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<v Speaker 4>the past four years. I originally moved to Scandinavia for

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<v Speaker 4>a wonderful Norwegian man. Although they're all introverts, they can

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<v Speaker 4>be very intoxicating. However, our four year relationship ended last autumn.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been on a beautiful journey of healing and self

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 4>love lately and have been filling my own cup. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm unsure of how much i want to include my

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<v Speaker 4>ex in my life. Any advice on how to navigate this?

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<v Speaker 4>Cheers in a big hug from finally sunny Oslo.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Ryan, Hi, Ryan, Hello, Hi, I'm coming to Oslo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm coming to perform there. I think in the fall.

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<v Speaker 5>No way, Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>I was there last summer. I saw Springsteen in Oslo.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun outside at that outdoor park.

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<v Speaker 5>You and all my lesbian friends amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I was. I got confused with lesbian a lot. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the status of the relationship now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>So the status is I mean, we're our lives are

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<v Speaker 7>longer entangled at all. He's a truly incredible person and

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<v Speaker 7>a really lovely guy. We broke up about just under

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 7>eight months ago. We were friends for four years and

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<v Speaker 7>then we dated for four years, and now I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>could we could we be friends again?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that realistic?

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<v Speaker 1>Feel attracted to him?

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<v Speaker 5>Like sexually?

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Not right now? No?

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean right? Not right now? Like it

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<v Speaker 1>can come back though, just after this autumn after I

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>think no. I think so.

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<v Speaker 7>We broke up because a couple of reasons, but the

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<v Speaker 7>main reason was I wanted to explore something more open,

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<v Speaker 7>and he, although it was very willing to have that discussion, didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>And so when we did open our relationship, we brought.

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<v Speaker 7>In a mutual friend, which then led to be demise

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 7>of our of our relationship.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 3>That track what an unusual ending, I know, I mean, honestly,

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 3>so sounds a little bit like you're still hung up

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 3>on this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you.

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't say I'm hung up on him anymore, honestly.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing is, we have a lot of like in common,

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 7>and so when I moved to Norway with my ex,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm originally from British Columbia, Canada, and so when I

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 7>moved here, like all of my network was through my ex.

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 7>I don't think I'm hung up on him anymore, but

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<v Speaker 7>I do think there may be place in my life

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 7>for him. But I'm not sure how to even approach

0:34:59.360 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 7>that topic.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys were friends for four years and you

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 3>dated for four years, I think it's totally realistic that

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 3>you could be friends again. It's hard to be friends

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>with someone when you haven't been friends with them ever

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 3>and you've only been romantic. But if you're friends, you

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 3>can always go back to that. Yeah, people do it

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>all the time, and I mean you have the perfect

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>excuse or reason.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not really an excuse, it's a reason.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 2>How would you approach that conversation with him to reconnect?

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I would just say, like here, I you know,

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm here living in Norway, and like, you know, obviously

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 3>this is how we're connected, and I'm here and it's

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 3>been a long time.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I hope you're well.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Send him a really thoughtful, nice email checking on him

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 3>and you'd love to see him, But make it clear

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're coming from a friend's perspective, don't make it

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 3>flirty or weird.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could even say, like you could you refer to.

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 6>Some earlier period of your life where I mean earlier time,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 6>when you guys used to be friends, something used to do.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Then I miss when we were whenever.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 6>I know things didn't work out with but I enjoyed

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 6>talking out out, which is so it makes it really

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 6>clear that I think that is important.

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not making it clear, Rachel, because that's making it confusing.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I think to say I really enjoyed hanging out with you.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh you mean in addition to fucking you like the

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 3>other things I liked?

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I know absolutely, I know you're right, You're absolutely right. No, yeah,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 6>you want to make it say when you weren't inside me.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 6>I guess it's what you should add in parentheses, when

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 6>we weren't inside each other.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I think, just don't tell him you like anything about him.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't say that right now. Just reach out and send

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 3>a really nice email checking in how he's doing.

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You love Norway, bring up things that.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 3>There's going to be a response to, right, like all

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 3>the cool things about Norway that you've discovered or that

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 3>you love, that you've rediscovered, or that remind.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You of him, whatever, but in a non romantic attitude.

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, and I think that that's probably the right way.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 7>So the last time I saw him. He mentioned that

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 7>his father had health problems, and you know, I burst

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 7>into chairs and I thought, this is someone I spent

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<v Speaker 7>for Christmas is with.

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<v Speaker 5>This is someone I really used to care about. And

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<v Speaker 5>I asked like, oh, do you want to hug and

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.919
<v Speaker 5>said no. I thought, oh my god, you're right now.

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>What he wanted to hug you before? Like was that?

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Was he never a hunting guy?

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 6>He was?

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's funny.

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Maybe I forced him to be like a physical person

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 7>when we were together, because I'm quite well.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's probably a good sign that he in

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<v Speaker 6>a way because the fact that he wasn't immediately like yes,

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<v Speaker 6>like maybe when you do set those clear boundaries again,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 6>take none of my instructions.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Now that I think about it a second second, that's awful.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Don't take anything, Rachel says seriously, and I'm right behind her.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>So you've got Catherine left only at Chelsea's instructions.

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like this is an instruction only. I

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 3>still think you're hung up on him. I don't know

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.479
<v Speaker 3>what it is, but you are giving off a vibe

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 3>that you're into him and you want to get in

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and you're pretending that you want to be friends but

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<v Speaker 3>you want to tell.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>You way it is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's because why would there even be a t the

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 6>fact that it's being discussed at all, Like, you wouldn't

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 6>be thinking about it this much if you're talking thinking

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 6>about talking to somebody again that you aren't attracted to

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 6>anymore or have no lingering feelings for it.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>It would just be like you do or you don't.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 6>Like I feel like you wouldn't waste this precious time

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 6>with my brilliant advice. Oh but I mean, like, I

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.439
<v Speaker 6>don't know, there's probably something there. Yeah, so maybe take

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 6>a take a look at it.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 5>I think there is probably something there.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 7>I don't think I want to pursue anything like we had,

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 7>like you know, we were living together for four years.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 7>I don't think I want to pursue that again. And

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 7>I do want to pursue something more open with other people.

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 7>And I've started recently dating again, which is felt interesting

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 7>and nice. But I think I think, Chelsea, you might

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<v Speaker 7>be right that there are some lingering feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the way you're.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Talking about it, it's just like you're you're something you

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 3>want unfinished or something's unfinished.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's too whimsical. It's too whimsical or something. Something's

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 6>not tracking.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Go get your tarot cards read. It's for a real answer.

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I like that answer for this.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you want the truth, go get your tarot

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 3>cards read.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>And if he's not interested, I think you got to.

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 4>You got to give him space, like yeah, months before

0:38:58.920 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 4>you reach out again.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 5>And there's a lot of other beautiful Norwegians out there.

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I say. I bet so I start

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>my day. That's my morning affirmation.

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<v Speaker 6>You're very handsome, Ryan. I feel like you'll do well.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm not worried about your numbers.

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 5>That's very generous.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all right, thank you so much, Ryan, Thanks Ryan,

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 4>thank you three.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Guy.

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm in Norway and never gets stark here.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, he said.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 4>He was like, this is the midnight sun now, so well,

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 4>let's take a quick break and we'll be back with

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 4>a quickie.

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<v Speaker 2>To wrap up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 4>We are back now. This email is not very quick,

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:36.919
<v Speaker 4>but I think the answer will be quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me try and stay focused, Rachel, You and I

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 3>will be trying to focused if we both try to

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 3>focus at the same time.

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what kind of focus.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 4>We can gather, Amanda says, Dear Chelsea, Chelsea, I adore you,

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 4>and I hope my life looks like yours one day.

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 4>My best friend of over twenty five years got married

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 4>last November. I planned the bridle shower because she lost

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 4>her mother the summer we were going into high school,

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 4>so my mother and I spent over twenty five hundred

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 4>dollars on the Bridle show. She then had a destination

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 4>bachelorette at Walt Disney World, which ended up costing me

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 4>another two grand, and not to mention, she convinced me

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 4>to get an annual pass because she claimed we would

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 4>go back together in the next year, which was an

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 4>additional five hundred dollars. Her wedding was a destination wedding

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 4>in Mexico, which cost me over four grand, and I

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 4>photographed her wedding, which is about a five thousand dollars value.

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of drama leading up to the

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 4>wedding with price is right. There was a lot of

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 4>drama leading up to the wedding with her and another

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 4>bride'smaid being very selfish, and she proceeded to make my

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<v Speaker 4>life a living hell for the rest of the year.

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the other bridesmaid. My best friend.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 4>The bride continued to ask me to be the bigger

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 4>person through all of the events and bite my tongue

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 4>and not say anything to her, and I did just that.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 4>The wedding, everything went off without a hitch. I was

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 4>the maid of honor, so I hired someone to come

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 4>with me and be able to shoot the wedding since

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 4>I was in it. Fast forward to the last day

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 4>of the four day weekend we spent in Mexico. I

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 4>admittedly got a little too drunk, which is something that

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<v Speaker 4>is very uncharacteristic of me, and I haven't been that

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 4>drunk in like seven years, and I lost all my

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 4>inhibitions and said things to that other bridesmaid and her

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 4>husband basically made a fool of myself. I have since apologized,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 4>but me and my best friend have not spoken since

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 4>the wedding. Now to my question, since I obviously have

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 4>her wedding photos, I assume this is something she probably

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 4>wants as it has all of her photos of her

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 4>guests and her and her husband, and I don't want.

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>To just give her these photos for free.

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<v Speaker 4>My question to you is if I should send an

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 4>email stating If she wants these photos, the dollar amount

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 4>is xyz, and if she doesn't, I'm happy to delete them.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I understand that money is not everything, but I'm a

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 4>single woman running my own small business, and she has

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 4>way more money than I do. And I've wasted over

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 4>thirteen thousand dollars this last year on nothing. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a waste of my time, a waste of my money.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 4>And I did all those things for her because I

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 4>thought we were important to each other. Obviously, over the

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 4>last few months I missed her occasionally, but not quite

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 4>as much as I thought I would. So please let

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 4>me know if you think it's worth it to ask

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 4>her to pay for the photos, or if I should

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 4>not contact her unless she contacts me about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for your time. I love you all.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep doing the good work you do. Sincerely, Amanda, and

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 4>no need to keep me anonymous. Let that bitch hear

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 4>it a journey.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, fuck dear. What do you think, Rachel?

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<v Speaker 6>I think you should do a little less accounting, a

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 6>little a little less tallying. Yeah yeah, I think if

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 6>you give somebody something, you just give it to them.

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 6>You're acting like an accountant. These are like the commission

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 6>statements I get from my agency, like, you can't. You

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 6>just got to give it to them, and you can't

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 6>be like if I was this, if we were friends,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 6>then A, B and C. Personally, I think you might

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 6>want to just give her her wedding photos and work

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 6>on your business. That's kind of what I think.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I agree, I agree, I understand you're if you can't

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>find it in your heart or financially, like you can't

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 3>not get paid for this, which you already agreed to

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 3>do it without getting paid, so now you're adding a

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 3>price for not talking to her.

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing that rachels talking about.

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like tip for tap, like you should give them

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 3>to her, and if if you don't feel comfortable you

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 3>can't do that, then wait until she contacts you for

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 3>them and then give them to her. But you shouldn't

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>contact her and reach.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Out to her at all.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Class it's with a dropbox link with all her wedding

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 4>photos like that I think is the only communication here.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wouldn't really be in the business of charging.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you got to walk out of this as

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>a bigger if it really was only a mistake that

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 3>you made and you were completely provoked. Then your behavior

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 3>in this instant should be to show grace so that

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>she can detect or you know, infer what really happened

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 3>in the long run. You know, you're just like shutting

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>the door on the friendship another way by saying, hey,

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 3>you owe me money for this, so yeah, release the

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 3>wedding count. This isn't the advice you wanted to hear,

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 3>but skip it. And when you have lists that long

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 3>of what people have done to wrong you, it's also

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 3>time to like take a look at yourself. You can't

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 3>just keep score all the time. It doesn't work that way.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 6>No, I mean this is the kind of stuff that

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 6>I do believe. Although I love the chapter email where

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 6>you kind of like, you know, drunkenly said some things.

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 6>That was the most fun part for me personally. I

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.760
<v Speaker 6>like when she hits the fan in a fun, loving tale. Sure,

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 6>but I think that that might be maybe connected to

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.240
<v Speaker 6>holding on to all of this like resentment, all this talent,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Like you don't want to be that tightly wound that

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 6>you're crunching numbers every time you're hanging out with the friends.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>No, you know, no, not at all. I would let

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>it go.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Let it go everyone, Let it go. Rachel Feinstein, what

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>a dream, What a dream, jew you've been Thank you guys.

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 3>It's been nice to spend time with you. I look

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 3>forward to spending more time with you in Hawaii.

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone else who's listening that we'll see in Hawaii.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 3>So I'll see you in your thong and you'll see

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 3>me in your in your thong as well.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much. This was so fun. I

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>had the best time. Bye, Rachel. Congrats.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So upcoming shows that I have you guys, Auckland,

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<v Speaker 3>New Zealand, Wellington, New Zealand, Melbourne, Australia, Brisbane and Australia, Sydney, Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>We've added second shows to places that have sold out

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<v Speaker 3>the first and then I'm gonna be in Hawaii on Maui, Ka,

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Huluey and Honolulu. I will be there in July. Also

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<v Speaker 3>in July, I'm coming to Niagara Falls on July twenty seventh.

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm coming to Hollywood, Florida for my only show in

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Florida on July twenty eighth. I'll be in Auburn, Washington

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 3>on August first, and then Santa Rosa, California for my

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 3>second show August second. August seventeenth is the Santa Barbara Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not want to miss that. And then I

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 3>will be all over Maine, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina.

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm coming to Texas. I'm coming to Saint Louis and

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, and then I will be in Las Vegas

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 3>performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan Hotel. My

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>first three dates in Vegas are September first, Labor Day weekend,

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 3>and then November tewond and November thirtieth. I'm coming to Brooklyn,

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 3>New York, at the King's Theater on November eighth, and

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I have tickets on sale throughout the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>year in December, so if you're in a city like

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia or Bethlehem, or San Diego or New Orleans or Omaha,

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<v Speaker 3>check Chelsea handler dot com for tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you'd like.

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