1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 2: How's my Orca? Chelsea? 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 3: Sunny and beautiful? Everything's going very well in my Orca. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Who did you have this past week? 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I have my sisters and I have about five girlfriends. 6 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful. 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really nice. We've been having a really nice 8 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: time together. I've been training everyone physically training. 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah. 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: I'm the age of my group when Ange is not 11 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: around and is my lunatic friend for Whistler who runs 12 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: marathons in three and a half hours. 13 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: Truly, the amount of like e bike hours that we 14 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 4: logged when we were there, and I only did like 15 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 4: half of them, and I still logged play. 16 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: I know, I know. 17 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: But you know what I love about it being in 18 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: my Orca is my thighs are so firm. They are 19 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: so firm from riding my fucking bike all day long 20 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: and exercising and walking up and down to the lighthouse. 21 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: My legs almost get thicker, and I love the density 22 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: I don't want. 23 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: It's like when I ski a. 24 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: Lot, my thighs get bigger, you know, So I'm just 25 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: trying to keep my thighs big all year round for skiing. 26 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: You know what they say, thick thighs save lives. 27 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Okay, well I'm saving I've left 28 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and right with my thick thighs. 29 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: I have been working out with a trainer and like, 30 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: all she has me to do is squats, and my 31 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: ass is like round and fantastic. 32 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: Now, oh it's so hard. 33 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: It takes two weeks to get your ass lifted. 34 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: If you want to do get your ass lifted, all 35 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: you do is but exercises for two weeks and your 36 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: ass lifts. I never had an asking my sisters don't 37 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: have asses. I am the only one who's cultivated one 38 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: because I realized you could make one out of nothing, 39 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: out of out of a pancake. 40 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: Chelsea, I have a little dipsy doodle, a dipsy doo. 41 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: So this is somebody who wrote in after our Jane 42 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: Fonda episode. We had that email from Jen who had 43 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: been a sex worker and was having trouble dating. And 44 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: this is from Jill, who was also a sex worker. 45 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: She says to your Chelsea, I'm a former stripper who 46 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 4: met my husband in the strip club twenty years ago, 47 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: and yes we're still together. I know two other women 48 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: who met their husband and strip clubs and are still 49 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: together because their relationships morphed over time. They picked people 50 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: who could quote see who they were. I don't think 51 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: these men are all that rare, because I've been out 52 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: as a stripper throughout my and have had relationships with 53 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: men who respect me all my life, in work and 54 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: in friendship. 55 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Was it easy meeting a partner. 56 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: No, But if you carry yourself with confidence and self assuredness, 57 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: people will see that you demand respect. If anyone says 58 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: anything out of line, read them. We all develop that 59 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: skill on the job. Finding a good partner, in general 60 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: is difficult. What are the key characteristics you want to 61 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: find in a partner? Put those first. Don't be ashamed 62 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: of your past, wear it like a badge of honor. 63 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: Good you are resilient and amazing and have done it 64 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: and then started your own business. I went on to 65 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: make documentaries, write plays, screenplays, win awards doing that, and 66 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: then became a boxer twenty fifteen National Golden Gloves Champion. 67 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: My husband accepts and loves all those versions of me. 68 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: You can find that too. 69 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 5: Love it side. 70 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: What a positive, optimistic note, fantastic. 71 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: We have such fucking great listeners. That's awesome, and. 72 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: It's great because if someone out there has had this 73 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: very specific experience. There's somebody else out there who knows 74 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: exactly how they feel. But anyway, should we get to 75 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: today's a guest. 76 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: Our guest today is a hilarious comedian who who's on 77 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: tour right now and her new special Big Guy, debut 78 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: in the top ten of Netflix, now streaming on Netflix. 79 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Please welcome Rachel Feinstein. 80 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Rachel, how excited are we that we're going to get 81 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: to tour together? 82 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: I know, I'm so excited to be in Hawaii. We're 83 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: going to Hawaii together in July. Right, we're going to July. 84 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: We're going to Honolulu and Maui. 85 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 6: I can't wait for some Hawaii whoring. I know it's 86 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 6: going to be amazing. 87 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: I love I love to get my groove on in 88 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 3: Hawaii because it's filled with my type of men. 89 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: What's that. 90 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Large samoan, large samoan looking men. That's my type, hefty samoan. 91 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: I had no idea. 92 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: I like elderly men and large samoan type builds. I 93 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: like that build for a friend or for a lover. 94 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: I like a corpulent figure, you know what I mean? 95 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Like I like while you're worth it. 96 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: Thank you First, I want to congratulate you on your 97 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: new special A Big Guy, which was just recently premiered 98 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: on Netflix where everybody can stream it. Congratulations, Are you 99 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: happy with your special? Did you love it? 100 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 6: It was hard to watch myself, but now the worst. Yeah, 101 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 6: it's hard. 102 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: When I was. 103 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: Editing it, I was just like, shut up, what if 104 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 6: I ever needed to say? I kept screaming at myself 105 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 6: and calling myself a pig. And I screamed that so 106 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 6: much that I asked one of the producers if I 107 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 6: could call the special America's Favorite Pig, and they said no, 108 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 6: But I still think it would be a fun, loving 109 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 6: name for a show. 110 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: It would America's Favorite Pig is great, and I think 111 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: you could have called it that. But I thank you, Shelsea. Yeah, 112 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: why would Why would anyone stop that? 113 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: That's up to you. 114 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: It's like saying, I want to name my book America's 115 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: Favorite Pig. What is they going to say? Like, No, 116 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: that's not going to be popular maybe, but go for it. 117 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I had to watch. 118 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: I was listening to a set of mine the other 119 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: night because I did a bunch of new stuff, and 120 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, can you guys give me you know, 121 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: the recording of that, and I was listening to it 122 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: to it for less than two minutes before I was like, 123 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: who fucking cares what I said. I cannot listen to 124 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: this bitch for one more second. I want to close 125 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: myself like a box when I listen. I'm like, what 126 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: if you ever needed to get out there? Especially when 127 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: I really use the stage and just kind of like 128 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: saunter around. 129 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that all the time. I saunter. I 130 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: think it's better to use the stage. 131 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 5: You know. 132 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Zach Alifanakis once said to me, you have to use 133 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: the stage as a comedian. And before he said that, 134 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: I didn't walk around on stage, and I was like, 135 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: what does he mean by that? And then I started 136 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: walking around on stage. I'm like, I think this is 137 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: more dynamic than just standing there like yeah, I don't 138 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: want to just stand somewhere like you are talking. You 139 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: would normally be moving around. 140 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 6: So these are profound, core self esteem issues that I 141 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: have and nothing else. 142 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: What other self esteem issues do you want to work on? 143 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: Let's get to it because I can help. What kind 144 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: of bathing suit equipment do you think you'll be bringing 145 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: to Hawaii? 146 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Rachel? When you mentioned on Instagram that I should wear 147 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: a thong. I was like, no one needs that. I 148 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: don't think I look good in the thong. 149 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: No one should be wearing a thong. First of all, 150 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: thongs are so disgusting. I don't even want to wear 151 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: them myself. I don't even want to wear them as 152 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: underwear anymore. It's too many, it's too problematic. There are 153 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: too many things, like I have to phase out into 154 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: a full panty. The problem with a full panty, though, 155 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: is that when you wear very tight jeans, it flattens 156 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: my ass. And I don't have a bulbous ass, so 157 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I need all the lift I can get. When I 158 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: wear a full panty, it does a mush you know, yes. 159 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: Me too. 160 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 6: There's a sadness to a full panty. It smushes me. 161 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: But a thong, no one needs that. I'd send somebody 162 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: into a low grade depression. There's a real supply and demand. 163 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 6: Is shoe with my dumb ass and its long? 164 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not really. 165 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really think that I've ever seen 166 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: a thong and thought that looks good. 167 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hypothetically good, yeah, but no, yeah, I need 168 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 6: like unless I'm like Paris filtered like Triple Paris filtered nobody, 169 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 6: no one needs that at all. But I'm excited for Hawaii, 170 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 6: Like that's something I need right now. Like I've been well, 171 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 6: you've been hustling. Yeah, yeah, I've been hurling my body 172 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: to every dumb place on the road, and I'm like, yeah, 173 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 6: I need to lay still on a beach right right. 174 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: Well, I know that your Special debut in the top ten, 175 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: so that's very exciting, which means people are loving it. 176 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 6: That was cool, And your DMS this in the last year, 177 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 6: You're sending me a couple of messages about some dumb video. 178 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: I like made my day, And I can't explain to 179 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 6: you how much because you know, I mean, I've been 180 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: doing stand up for what feels like seventy years, so 181 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 6: I really feel like I'm just in the winter of 182 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 6: my life right now. So the fact that I'm like, 183 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 6: oh my god, okay, people watch it, I was just 184 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 6: like didn't want it to get buried. So it felt 185 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: really cool that like people are actually watching it now, 186 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: and I'm like, I just want to start writing Uber 187 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 6: blacks at least, you know, that's kind of my goal 188 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 6: with this. 189 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Like it's been I did everything the. 190 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: Long way, Like, I've been a road woman for a 191 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 6: lot of years, so like I need this. 192 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 1: Did you sleep with a lot of comics on the road? 193 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 6: Just so much head Chelsea, There wasn't a moment I 194 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: wasn't on my so much dick sucking. 195 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: I know. 196 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: That's where dick sucking really comes into its own. It's 197 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: on the road. 198 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: My whole family too. Yeah, just generations of Feinstein's just 199 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: it's just really getting passed around just so that I 200 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 6: can get this out. 201 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Generations of dick sucking. 202 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: Wow, that's amazing, A long line of godless horse. My 203 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 6: grandmother said when I was a very small girl, I 204 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 6: never met a dick that I wasn't fond of, not one, 205 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 6: not one dick. 206 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: No, I don't know. 207 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 6: I didn't have I wasn't good at any aspect of 208 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 6: the business. There's no business left and silly to even 209 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 6: say that, but whatever it was, I wasn't good at it. 210 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: I was just on the road forever. 211 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 6: So like it feels, I'm just hoping this helps and 212 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: it like can can move some tickets for me changed 213 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: my life a little bit. 214 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Right absolutely. Let's how how long have you been doing 215 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: stand up? Really? Like twenty four five? Twenty five years. 216 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I moved to New York when I was like 217 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 6: seventeen with this guy and his bands called Dick's sister. 218 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: And then I Dick's sister dumped me, and I stayed 219 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 6: in New York and he kind of like undumped me 220 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 6: and redumped me a few times, like I wasn't really 221 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 6: taking the dump, and I would try to kind of 222 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 6: hang near his house in Staten Island where he lived 223 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 6: with the rest of his band. And then I just 224 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 6: stayed here and started doing open mics and stuff and 225 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 6: getting fired from different jobs first, and I felt like 226 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: at best I was gonna be like homelessh if I 227 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 6: didn't do this, you know, like there wasn't I wish 228 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 6: I could have been one of those people that was 229 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 6: like about to be a doctor. But I made this 230 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: like noble choice to leave it all for the arts. 231 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 6: But this was it, Like I was failed wildly in school. 232 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, and your husband's a fireman, which you talk 233 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: about in the special. 234 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: So he's an American hero. 235 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: He is. 236 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 6: He's a technical hero, but he infuriates me like he's 237 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: an emotional desert but a fun loving guy, a good 238 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 6: hang for sure. Yeah, firemen are great like for you 239 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 6: could say anything to them. That's that's what works. He's 240 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 6: my husband's almost like an accidental feminist, Like he he doesn't. 241 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Care what I do. 242 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 6: I could I could be out doing whatever with stand out, 243 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 6: like I could spend the night at some comics house, 244 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 6: get passed around. No, but just really like just some 245 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: platonic guy that doesn't even see me as a woman. 246 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: But Pete wouldn't question that. He's just kind of like 247 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 6: you're on your own. But if I ever explained what 248 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 6: a feminist was to him, he probably thinks they're like 249 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 6: Nazis or something like they run a little dumb in 250 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: that way. But strangely enough, it took a fireman because 251 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 6: every other guy like they got a kick out of 252 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: what I did for like you know, like a week, 253 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: and then they were like forget this, like she's working 254 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: on Christmas or and Pete is working on Christmas. So 255 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 6: it's kind of like he gets the life. And they 256 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 6: have their thing and in a weird way like firefighting, 257 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 6: Like they have a kitchen table where they hang and 258 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 6: when you walk in as a regular person, you can 259 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 6: feel the chemicals in the room change and it feels like, 260 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: you know, like at the cellar when a normal person 261 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 6: we call them civilians, which is hilarious, but like when 262 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 6: a normal person walks into the room, like you can 263 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 6: feel that whole energy change in the room. Like ah, 264 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 6: like somebody will a comic said this recently. They're like, oh, 265 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: he brought his like civilian girlfriend and she had to 266 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 6: sit at the table. But it's kind of similar, like 267 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 6: and he has that weird world that we have, so 268 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 6: there's not really any envy there. And comics and firemen 269 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: like they don't want anything the other one has. So 270 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 6: he's a pretty good hang with comics. He doesn't try 271 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 6: to be funny, like he's a good laugher, you know, 272 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 6: he doesn't step on anything they're trying to do, So 273 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 6: it strangely like works. 274 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about your child? How long have you had 275 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: your child? 276 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: Oh? 277 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: My god, where is she? 278 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: She is four years old. I have a little kid, 279 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 6: So you've had her for four years? Is that kind 280 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 6: of for four years? 281 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: That is cool? 282 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: How how is motherhood going for you as a comedian, 283 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: as a working woman, late night working woman, it's hard. 284 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm not pulling anything off completely, But 285 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: I have a lot of female comic friends and I 286 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: still relate to comedians more than like regular moms, you know. 287 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: So like I'm on like a chat with Rosebud and 288 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: Whitney and other other comic moms that kind of like 289 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 6: help each other with weird tips on how to do it. 290 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Michelle Wolf has a kid. 291 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 6: I was just talking with her at the Seller last night, 292 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 6: so that helps me try to like figure it all out. 293 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm not in any way pulling it off. 294 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 6: Like just before we got on this zoom, I bribed 295 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 6: my daughter with like a series of things. There was 296 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: just so that she wouldn't walk in this room, like 297 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 6: there was a bribe, and then there's like a threat 298 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,479 Speaker 6: of a bribe. 299 00:11:59,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: To being taken away. 300 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 6: I'm like, I'll give you this, and if you walk 301 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 6: in here, I'll take this away, which I call it thrive. 302 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 6: So there's like a series of like hard negotiations that 303 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 6: went on before I brought that random teenager in here 304 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: to do the audio. So I'm not pulling anything off, 305 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 6: but I feel like she kind of at this point 306 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: she's not I'm not a scheduled person. She's grown up, 307 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 6: half in a firehouse, like half on the road with me, 308 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 6: so like she's kind of not she's not expecting that, 309 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 6: like she knows. 310 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: She looks at me like she can tell I'm not 311 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: in charge of anything. Yeah, that's how I felt growing up. 312 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: I knew my parents had no say Like I was like, 313 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: this is you guys are not making decisions around here, 314 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: Like I'll come in hot and take over. 315 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: I think it's good to know. 316 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: I mean because first of all, nothing bad comes from 317 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: a girl, especially that grows up a little faster. 318 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: I think that's always yields good results. Yeah, you know what, 319 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, shake it out. 320 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: You shake out your naughtiness when you're younger, and then 321 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: by the time you're like in your twenties. 322 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 6: You're overall that well maybe thirty. I completely agree with 323 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: you because I was a really bad kid. I did 324 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 6: acid when I was like thirteen, like every week again, 325 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 6: I had like an appointment to do acid with like 326 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: six of my friends. 327 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: And I mean we were just deep pigs. 328 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: We would go up on like some sign in this 329 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 6: neighborhood and just moon people in the area. We're like, oh, 330 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 6: we're mooning now, Like we had our asses out all 331 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 6: the time. 332 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: We were always doing drugs. 333 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: And then by the time I was like seventeen, and 334 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 6: moved to New York with dumb Dick's sister. I was like, yeah, 335 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: I'd done all the kind of ridiculousness I'd gotten out 336 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 6: of my system, and I was able to like focus 337 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 6: a little more on like stand up. I do think 338 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 6: it's those kids that like really run a tight ship 339 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 6: in high school then they start their real problematic horring 340 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 6: later on or drug use or whatever. 341 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. Better to get the horror 342 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: out soon, early, early, getting rid of the horror early 343 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: so that you can really start to thrive in your 344 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,119 Speaker 3: twenties and thirties. 345 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: For sure. 346 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: Yes, I was definitely like a I was a problem. 347 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 6: I know somebody that knows you. He said you were 348 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 6: very cool. He grew up in Jersey near you. He 349 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 6: said you were always cool and could kind of like 350 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 6: hang from young, Like you seemed like a comic at 351 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 6: the table very young. Were you like hanging with a 352 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 6: group of guys or like what was your high school situation? 353 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: Who knows? 354 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I in my mind, I was in high 355 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: school when I was born, Like I was trapped in 356 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: a baby's body and I felt like a woman the 357 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: minute I was born, and all I wanted to do was. 358 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: Woman, be a woman. I was like, when can I 359 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: get be a woman? 360 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: Like? That was my favorite line to say, Like soon 361 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: I'll be a woman and you won't be able to 362 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: tell me. 363 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: What to do. I know what you mean, because, like 364 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I love. 365 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 6: I used to love the show when I was a 366 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 6: little kid called Moonlighting because I loved office tension. I 367 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: was like, I want to grow up one day and 368 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 6: have sexual tension in office. Those were my goals, if 369 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: totally totally. 370 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: First of all, working in an office. 371 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: When you were watching Moonlighting, working in an office seemed sexy. 372 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: You were like, Oh, that's that's sexy, like an office 373 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: job with these skirts. I'll wear skirts and heels and 374 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: then I'll fuck my colleague. 375 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Like it was so fun, right, so fun. Yeah, I 376 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: played this game. 377 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 6: I talked about it in like my first half hour 378 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 6: many years ago. But I used to play this game 379 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 6: with my Catholic friend. I wanted to be Catholic so bad. 380 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: I just wanted one of those names that like oh 381 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 6: rachel O, f Einstein or some shit. 382 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: And we would play this. 383 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: Game where she would throw me on the bed and 384 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: we worked in office. Her name is Harry Company, she 385 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: was the boss, and we would play this game in 386 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 6: her dad's office, like he had no idea where were 387 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 6: playing this weird horring game in his office. And she 388 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 6: would go like, Chrissy, get me my brief that I'd 389 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: be like, I'm doing the best I can, mister company. 390 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: My kids just get confused. I think that was all 391 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: for Moonlighting. It was very much like a porn Yeah. 392 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: I know porn's were not dissimilar to those programs. I 393 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: guess maybe because it was set in the same timeframe. 394 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: But there is a lot of porn represented, like foreign 395 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: like Vibes, and it shows like Moonlighting and what was 396 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: that other h not Dallas and Santa Barbara and Barbara 397 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: was awesome. 398 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: That was a soap opera though. That was the day. Yeah. 399 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: I once tried to call Kelly Capwell directly because I 400 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: was so obsessed with Robin Wright that I looked up 401 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: Kelly Capwell. I was so young, I didn't understand that 402 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: was a character's name, and I looked her up in 403 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: the phone book in Santa Barbara and called someone named 404 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: Kelly Capwell. 405 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with that bitch. 406 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: Gorgeous, the most beautiful family of all time. 407 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 6: The actress's name is Marcy Walker. I was completely and 408 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: utterly obsessed with her. I would just like hump a 409 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 6: pillow and pretend it was cruise that like hot Latin cop. Also, 410 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 6: they were sending so many weird messages with that show 411 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 6: because something happened to her, like she was like assaulted 412 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: or something, and then she was always on this bed 413 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 6: getting extra attention from men at post assault, Like I. 414 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Didn't know what that was. She was like trying. 415 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: She had like a concussion for like nine weeks or whatever, 416 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: like ninety weeks soapapera the that time where you know 417 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: you've been kidnapped three times in between that time. But 418 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: she was like lying in bed every episode so she 419 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: could go just basically to set her up for more 420 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: sexual assaults. And we're tuning in like we can't wait 421 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: to see it. We're like, when when's it gonna happen next? 422 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 6: She was so sick, and she was always kind of 423 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: dewey and hot and just everything. I wasn't just like 424 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 6: blonde and fucking like straight silky blonde. I wanted to 425 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 6: be her, And she was always laying on that bed 426 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: and then this hot cop would just keep coming back 427 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: and tending to her. 428 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm like this is the life I want. I'm ordering 429 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: this life. 430 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 6: I want to lay on some kind of bed and 431 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: snack on it and just have somebody avenging something on 432 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: my behalf and. 433 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Have your husband avenge of fire. Why can't he amage 434 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: my husband? 435 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 6: You don't want to go missing for weeks before he 436 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 6: would look for me. It's like he's not jealous to 437 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 6: like such a problematic point. I've tried to make him jealous, 438 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 6: and he's like, yeah, he could give a shit, like 439 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: it would be somebody could make a suit out of 440 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: my skin and he wouldn't follow up. He's very anal 441 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 6: neat about like how stuff Like I feel like if 442 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: I was missing, he'd be emptying the dishwasher first, like 443 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 6: he'd finished emptying the dishwasher. 444 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 445 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: He CA's non plussed by everything. That's the word for it, 446 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: nonplussed when you have no reaction, although it also says 447 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: it's also the opposite of having no reaction. It's having 448 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: no reaction and having the opposite of no reaction. I'm like, 449 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: isn't that two different artists antonyms? 450 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about? 451 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: That's what I do though, in my spare time, I 452 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: look words up in the dictionary to understand why I 453 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: can't speak clearly or correctly. 454 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: On that note, we're going to take a break and 455 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: we'll be right back this week. 456 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: We'd love to hear about your conundrums with parents. 457 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: If there's something you're working through with a parent or 458 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: need some help navigating a relationship issue, right into Dear 459 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. 460 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: And we're back with Rachel Feinstein, whose new special is 461 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: called Big Guy, Big Guy. Ask my husband's nickname for you. Yeah, 462 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: he calls you big guy. Your husband calls you big guy. 463 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: He does. Would you consider yourself the man of the house? 464 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 6: No, but I think he might. I mean, he just 465 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 6: doesn't know how to compliment a woman. He's like just 466 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: worthless romantically. He gave me, Chelsea, I'm not making this up, 467 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 6: a fifty dollars Amazon gift card for my birth like 468 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 6: fifty bucks. And you know, there was a moment where 469 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 6: he was like seventy five and then he was. 470 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: Like, nah, fifty not for her. Fifty feels right. 471 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: My driver once told me it was her birthday. I said, 472 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: what did you get Carolyn? He said, I'm just going 473 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: to give her some cash chill. I was like, no, no, no, 474 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: you're not, you fucking idiot. Yeah, his wife Cash, I 475 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: was like, Billy, pull over, we need to talk. 476 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're an idiot. 477 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 6: Nothing makes me more delighted than when you trash men 478 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 6: for their nonsense. It's like my specific brand of what 479 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: delights me more than anything else. 480 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: When you call men to. 481 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 6: Task on their utter horseshit, it makes me so happy. 482 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 6: Cash is somehow worse than Amazon gift card. It's worse. 483 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 6: It's dumber. 484 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, do I work for you? Understand? Is 485 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: that a tip? What is that? 486 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 6: The thing is that he lives with men at a 487 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: house for half his fucking life. Like he doesn't come 488 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 6: back smarter from this house he lives at. It's so 489 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: not hot. Men are so good at being not hot, 490 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's like, that's not hot. 491 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 6: Do I need to explain to you that that's not hot? 492 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Okay? What do we have? What do we have in 493 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: store for us? Catherine? 494 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: Oh? 495 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: So many things. 496 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 7: Well. 497 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: Our first email comes from Richie. Richie says, Dear Chelsea, 498 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure whether or not I should be upset 499 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: with my partner. We've been together for over three years 500 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 4: and currently have a house together and two dogs. Our 501 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: lives are very intertwined, and while I love him and. 502 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Care very why could you fucking live together? This is 503 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: a weird thing to mention. 504 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: You're right, clearly, we spent a lot of time together, 505 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: but some things from our past have come up recently. 506 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: While chatting with a mutual friend, I learned that in 507 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: our first year of dating, he didn't take us very 508 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: seriously and was constantly hitting on and flirting with other people. 509 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: I would like to believe he isn't anymore, especially since 510 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: he's been honest about how he was in the first 511 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: year of dating. But since I'm just finding out about it, 512 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 4: I'm feeling betrayed and honestly pissed. But we're a couple 513 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: literally a couple of years removed from this. So do 514 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: I have a right to be upset about it? Do 515 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: I need to just move on and accept? 516 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: I like this question. That is interesting. Question is interesting 517 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: because that would piss me off. 518 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Retroactively finding out that something happened when miss me. 519 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: That's just that's just the kind of recipe that would 520 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: piss me. 521 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 6: Also, I also feel like admitting to something and admitting 522 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 6: to just a little bit of what you actually did. 523 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: That is like one tried and true tactic of a 524 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: lifelong liar, Like I've been wildly cheated on, just like 525 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 6: an insane, unimaginable shit that I was like, wait a second, 526 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: I would ask this question to her, is he jealous? 527 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 6: Because I do feel like the most jealous guys are 528 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: often cheating. And the guy that I remember, I've dated 529 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: a guy that was always always in my internet history. 530 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 6: Every time I would go away, he would accuse me 531 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: of all manner of things, and you know, like as 532 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: a comic on the road, I'm doing nothing but just 533 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: laying still with throbbing loneliness after my shows, like I'm 534 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: just laying in bed as alone as I've ever been 535 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 6: in Des Moines. And he was inside of someone. Every 536 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 6: time I was out of town, Like I got an 537 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: email with the dates of the other other girl he 538 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: was fucking. She's like I was with them from two 539 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 6: twelve to two fourteen email. Yeah, yeah, And he was 540 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 6: very jealous and whenever I would come home, he would 541 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: accuse me of all kinds of insane things. I remember 542 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 6: he used to chase me around the apartment with my laptop. 543 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 6: I would try to pull it back from him. And 544 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: he would make these wild like noises. He'd be like, 545 00:21:53,960 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 6: how like these Howard d criest chill, But my lap's 546 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 6: up in the freezer. For some reason, I was used 547 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 6: to this too, Like I was like, Oh, he's probably 548 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 6: gonna make a left here dad to the freezer. 549 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: And he was always kind of jogging over there. 550 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 6: I was like, I didn't suck a stick stick and 551 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 6: that he was putting the laptop in the freezer, and 552 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 6: you know, it was jis constant. He was always accusing 553 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 6: me of some insanity and he was doing it. So 554 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 6: my only I have no idea if this guy is 555 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 6: still cheating or not, or what he's up to, but 556 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 6: I do feel like it's one of the signs. Is 557 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 6: he extremely jealous and suspicious of you? And if he isn't, 558 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 6: I feel like there's less likely it's less likely that 559 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 6: he's cheating. 560 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are they asking? Do they have a right 561 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: to be mad? 562 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 8: Yeah? 563 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: I will, I do. I think you can kind of 564 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: be mad. 565 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: A year is a long time to be hitting on 566 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: other people while you're like supposedly in a relationship, or 567 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: maybe they weren't in a relationship. 568 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. 569 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: It sounds like they were I like the question. I 570 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: don't really have a good answer. 571 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: I feel like three months you got to like cut 572 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 4: off the flirting with other people, like there's some there 573 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: could be some overlap, but like a year was too long. 574 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's good advice. It doesn't sound idea. 575 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like be pissed, but maybe don't break up 576 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: with them. 577 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, definitely don't. Don't not acknowledge it. 578 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: You you can, you don't have to break up with him, 579 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: but you have to make sure he knows that you 580 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 3: know that and that that's not cool and you're upset. 581 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: You have every right to be upset about that. 582 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: Make him make it up to you. I think a 583 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: couple of nice baths, a couple of nice dinners. 584 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: A bath, that's not going to make anything up. I 585 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: h yeah, yeah. 586 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: A friend of mine is starting dating this guy that 587 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 6: that draws her baths. 588 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: Think you were going to say that drew her a bath, 589 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: is what you were going to say. I was going 590 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: to say, yeah, you should go for it, she drew 591 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: her a bath. 592 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I think, go to college. I went to fucking Dick's sister. 593 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: What do you want? 594 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 6: I was going to say that, but a friend of 595 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: mine was dating guy for many years. Then their courtship 596 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: started by him drawing her bath, and I think that's disgusting. 597 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: Started like they were friends and he drew her a bath. 598 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 6: And then he started turning the baths water on like 599 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 6: when they were Yeah, yeah, and I think this is 600 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 6: so strange. 601 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 602 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 6: She said that like a few months into their friendship 603 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 6: he would just kind of like turn on a bath 604 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: and be like, hey, and that was how we kind 605 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 6: of like pulled her in fucked her. 606 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and then they would fuck in the bath. 607 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: I think he is really like to have sex and 608 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: baths or water. 609 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: It's because it's. 610 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Confusing because you think the water will also serve as 611 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: a lubricant and that's not. 612 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: What works all. No, it's kind of frantic. It's like 613 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: a lot of sexy situations. It's actually very it sounds 614 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: like a very dry situation. 615 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 6: Ironically, in a in a pool of water. Yeah, he 616 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 6: would draw her a bath and then he. 617 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Would bathe her for months. Oh no, and that's unacceptable. No, No, 618 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: it's not. Nobody's bathing me. 619 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: Try me math, get the fuck out. 620 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 7: Well. 621 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: Our next collor is Ali and Alie says, Dear Chelsea, 622 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: my husband and I moved away from home about four 623 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 4: years ago. We recently had a baby and have decided 624 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: to move closer to family and friends, as we both 625 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: work remotely and could use some interaction with other people. 626 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: We're about an hour's drive away from family. My husband's 627 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: family obviously missed us, and his mom from time to 628 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: time can be a bit much. However, my mom is 629 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: next level. Prior to me being pregnant, we never really talked, 630 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: as she was kind of a crappy parent. I'm having 631 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: a ton of anxiety about being closer to her, and 632 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: when we lift eleven and a half hours away, it's 633 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: been easy to keep her at arm's length, but now 634 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: she texts, calls, sends videos, etc. Multiple times a day. 635 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: When I say it's too much, she doesn't listen and says, well, 636 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm the mom or grandma and I'll do whatever I want. 637 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: Then she proceeds to act like a toddler or spread 638 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: gossip through my family. She's the kind of person that 639 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: works in customer service but yells at waiters every time 640 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 4: we go out to eat. I'm wondering how to navigate 641 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 4: this relationship without blowing up. So she can see her 642 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 4: granddaughter every time I see her. After ten minutes, I'm 643 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 4: going crazy. Help Allie. 644 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Allie. That sounds like a fucking nightmare. Another 645 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: reason to never get married. Yeah, that's not good. 646 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 6: She sounds like a pretty I mean, she sounds like 647 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 6: a pretty unbearable twat. But I think you're I don't know, 648 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: trying to do the right thing by letting her have 649 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 6: access to your child. But I feel like it's less 650 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 6: as little as you can have to do with those plans, 651 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 6: the better, Like do it like have her take care 652 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: be with the kid the week you're going away, a 653 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 6: week you're going you know, horring in Hawaii? Ever take 654 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 6: care of the kid that weekend? 655 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to whr in Hawaii coming up? 656 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: Not as it right now? 657 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Well obviously that can change in a minute. Anything 658 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: can change in an instant. So what has been You're like, 659 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: when you've tried to put up like a boundary with 660 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: her before, what has happened? 661 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 8: He basically says no, or she ignores it and will 662 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 8: text me like the next week and say so can 663 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 8: I come this week? Like just ignores the whole thing. 664 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 665 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 3: I find that to be incredibly annoying. People who don't 666 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: listen to you when you're setting up a boundary. So 667 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: I think you have to have like a more formal 668 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: conversation with her about it, just for your own sanity, 669 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: like it, don't worry about how she's going to react 670 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: to it, because people end up respecting boundaries in the 671 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: long term, they just don't like them in the beginning, 672 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it works, And so 673 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: you're going to protect your like mental health and and 674 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: the health of your family because you don't want to 675 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: be fucking annoyed at her all the time. But you 676 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: have to be firm because she's not used to have 677 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: anyone telling her that there is a boundary. 678 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent true. 679 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 6: Also, I feel like the thing with people that don't 680 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 6: respect boundaries is that when you draw them, it's this 681 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: big lead up to saying something, and it's not that 682 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 6: big of a deal at all, because first of all, 683 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 6: they might not even listen to it, to which you 684 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 6: have to double down on it. But that moment isn't 685 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 6: that big because like they don't care, like they're used 686 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: to bulldozing through those things. So the very least you 687 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 6: can do, like this is the beginning of a longer 688 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 6: stretch you have to go through with her. At the 689 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 6: very least, just say something and be it clear. When 690 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 6: you're that ludicrous, when you're acting that insanely, like this 691 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: person has been told this many times before, you're not 692 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? This isn't like, so don't 693 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 6: worry about that. 694 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: Just say it. 695 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, just say it, say it quick, say it fast, 696 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 6: and say it in as few words as possible. I 697 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 6: feel like that's true for everything. I always over explain, apologize, defend. 698 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 6: Somebody told me this recently, Like justify, apologize. There's like 699 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 6: some acronym I'm forgetting, but defend. I think it's jade 700 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: or something. And try not to do any of those things. 701 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 6: And say it in as few words as possible in 702 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 6: a text or talk to your friend. Before you talk 703 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 6: to her, know exactly what you to say and nothing extra. 704 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and hold your ground, you know what I mean, Like, 705 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: don't say it and then get scared and run away, 706 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: Like say it, hold your ground. Machine understands that you 707 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 3: mean business like, maintain eye contact and be firm. You 708 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: have every right to do that for yourself. It doesn't 709 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: have to be like a big deal. Exactly what Rachel's saying, 710 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: it's just like you standing up for yourself, You're gonna 711 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: feel really good afterward and you might have to tell 712 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: her again, but that's okay. 713 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: Just practice advocating for yourself. 714 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I really like that advice. I think to like 715 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 8: just holding my ground. I like to eye contact too, 716 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 8: and not just like. 717 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: Or I get crazy eyes so they get really fucking 718 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: scared and then they're like, all right, all right, all right, 719 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: I won't. 720 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Fucking bother you. 721 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I need a guy for a while that, Like, 722 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 6: his mom was just upset about absolutely everything about me, 723 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 6: and a lot of the things about me were just 724 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 6: things that were never going to change, things that she 725 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 6: thought I would find insulting, like that I'm not domestic 726 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 6: or that I'm not clean. I'm like, tell me a 727 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 6: better story, bitch, Like I'm I I've been a pig 728 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 6: my whole life. Like, and she was like, you know, 729 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 6: just kind of making these passive aggressive comments about what 730 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: I didn't do around the house, and I'm like, that's 731 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 6: not You could say a lot of things that will 732 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 6: immediately hurt me, but I'm like, and I learned to 733 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 6: just say to her very directly, oh I'm not going 734 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: to do that. I'm never going to do that. She'd like, 735 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 6: you know what you should do? You should, you know, 736 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 6: start gardening. I'm like, oh, that's not going to happen. 737 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: That's not going to occur. I would say it then, 738 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 6: like the dumbest, simplest way possible. And I felt like 739 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 6: she like she just kind of stopped after a while, 740 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 6: like she would come over and clean so much, like 741 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 6: in front of me to piss me off. 742 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: But I was like, no, that's helpful. 743 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 6: I had a friend over one since she was doing it, 744 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 6: and he was like, if you want to get behind 745 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: the couch. 746 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: She was comic. 747 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 6: He's like, if you want to get behind the couch, 748 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 6: she just get that corner right there, like he was 749 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 6: directing her. 750 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: So I feel like I feel like with people like that, like. 751 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, as direct as you could ever be, and she 752 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 6: wants what you have, like she wants access to that kid, 753 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So, like, you're in control 754 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 6: in this situation when we're more vulnerables, when we don't 755 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: need something, you need very little except to be left alone. 756 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: Is your partner somebody who can tolerate being around your. 757 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 8: Mom for a short amount of times? Yes, but he 758 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 8: is a lot more comfortable being direct with her. So 759 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 8: maybe I just like kind of follow his lead because 760 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 8: he does do that and it does work. She does 761 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 8: listen to him. 762 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, is this your mom or his mom? 763 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: This is my mom? 764 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: I go fucking tell her. 765 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: To fucking back off. 766 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: Then I was thinking this is his mom the whole time. 767 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you tell your mother to fucking stop it. 768 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: She doesn't get to overrule you. You're an adult woman 769 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: now with your own kids. 770 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's what I tried. 771 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 8: I've recently tried being like I'm not asking, I'm telling, 772 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna stick to that. 773 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be very firm with your own mother. 774 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 6: I didn't realize that either, that if it's until just now. 775 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 6: I was laid to that party too, But yeah, if 776 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 6: it's your own mom. 777 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, it flipped in the mother in law thing there, And. 778 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 6: My mom is here right now, and she does a 779 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 6: thing when I tell her something clearly, she gets wounded 780 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: immediately and starts like weeping. So like I was like, hey, 781 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 6: can you get something for my daughter's birthday party, like 782 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 6: to fill these goodie bags? Because I was like, on 783 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 6: these zooms yesterday and I was like, just get anything 784 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 6: to put in a goodie bag. She came back with 785 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 6: like sheets of like shit stickers, like poopsticker, and I 786 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 6: was like, Mom, I can't put this in her like 787 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 6: four year old goodie bagh's that's shit. 788 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: She's like, well, I'm sorry, Rachel. I did the damn 789 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: best I could. 790 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 6: Like she starts weeping, and like five years ago, I 791 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 6: would have felt like I had just assaulted my mother 792 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: because she always weeps if you give her a note, 793 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 6: you know. But now I'm just like, Mom, you can 794 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 6: weep or not, but I can't like put shit stickers 795 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: in here, like and I'm gonna get on this zoom now, 796 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 6: can you get something else? 797 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: You know? 798 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 6: And I also realized, like she's always going to. 799 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Be weeping because that about me. 800 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: It's about her alcoholic mother or something, you know what 801 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean. Like I don't take it personally anymore. 802 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 6: My mom always has like a sort of vaguely muttering 803 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 6: to herself for weeping, and I just know that that's 804 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 6: what she likes to do and she probably won't stop, 805 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 6: but she's here, she's helping out. 806 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm not taking on her her day weeping. 807 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very good advice. 808 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a better relationship now. 809 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 8: I like the advice of not taking it myself, like 810 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 8: not personal at all, just living not personal. 811 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 812 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: My friend Jessica Curson really funny comics. She always says, 813 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 6: like people are insane. They are walking around furious all day. 814 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 6: It doesn't have. 815 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Anything to do with you. 816 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 6: Usually, you know, like people are just not okay, they're 817 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 6: not well. Yeah, so if you can imagine a little sticker, 818 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: She always says that to me, just imagine a little 819 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 6: sticker on this person's forehead that says sick. And that's 820 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 6: always a helpful tool for me when I'm communicating to 821 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 6: not personalize. 822 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Ali, is that helpful? 823 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 8: Yes, so helpful. 824 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 5: I'm excited to share it at work. 825 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Sally, Okay, bye bye. I think it's 826 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: funny that we both missed the main part of that. 827 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. 828 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: You should have seen me last week. I was like, 829 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: I got the whole story backwards. I'm like, what, I'm 830 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: listening and then I'm confused. I don't understand. 831 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Well. 832 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: Our next caller is Ryan and he's calling in from Norway. 833 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: He says, dear Chelsea, Hi, I'm Ryan. I'm originally from 834 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 4: Vancouver Island and I've been living in Oslo, Norway for 835 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: the past four years. I originally moved to Scandinavia for 836 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 4: a wonderful Norwegian man. Although they're all introverts, they can 837 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: be very intoxicating. However, our four year relationship ended last autumn. 838 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: I've been on a beautiful journey of healing and self 839 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: love lately and have been filling my own cup. But 840 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm unsure of how much i want to include my 841 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: ex in my life. Any advice on how to navigate this? 842 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: Cheers in a big hug from finally sunny Oslo. 843 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: Ryan. 844 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: Hi, Ryan, Hi, Ryan, Hello, Hi, I'm coming to Oslo. 845 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: I'm coming to perform there. I think in the fall. 846 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: No way, Oh my goodness. 847 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: I was there last summer. I saw Springsteen in Oslo. 848 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: It was so fun outside at that outdoor park. 849 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 5: You and all my lesbian friends amazing. 850 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: I know I was. I got confused with lesbian a lot. Actually, 851 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: So what's the status of the relationship now? 852 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 853 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 7: So the status is I mean, we're our lives are 854 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 7: longer entangled at all. He's a truly incredible person and 855 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 7: a really lovely guy. We broke up about just under 856 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 7: eight months ago. We were friends for four years and 857 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 7: then we dated for four years, and now I'm like, oh, 858 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 7: could we could we be friends again? 859 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 5: Is that realistic? 860 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: Feel attracted to him? 861 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: Like sexually? 862 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 863 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: Not right now? No? 864 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: What do you mean right? Not right now? Like it 865 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: can come back though, just after this autumn after I 866 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: think no. I think so. 867 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 7: We broke up because a couple of reasons, but the 868 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 7: main reason was I wanted to explore something more open, 869 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 7: and he, although it was very willing to have that discussion, didn't. 870 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: And so when we did open our relationship, we brought. 871 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 7: In a mutual friend, which then led to be demise 872 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 7: of our of our relationship. 873 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: That track what an unusual ending, I know, I mean, honestly, 874 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: so sounds a little bit like you're still hung up 875 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: on this guy. 876 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: Are you. 877 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say I'm hung up on him anymore, honestly. 878 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 7: The thing is, we have a lot of like in common, 879 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 7: and so when I moved to Norway with my ex, 880 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 7: I'm originally from British Columbia, Canada, and so when I 881 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 7: moved here, like all of my network was through my ex. 882 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 7: I don't think I'm hung up on him anymore, but 883 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 7: I do think there may be place in my life 884 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 7: for him. But I'm not sure how to even approach 885 00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 7: that topic. 886 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 3: If you guys were friends for four years and you 887 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: dated for four years, I think it's totally realistic that 888 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: you could be friends again. It's hard to be friends 889 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: with someone when you haven't been friends with them ever 890 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: and you've only been romantic. But if you're friends, you 891 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: can always go back to that. Yeah, people do it 892 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: all the time, and I mean you have the perfect 893 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: excuse or reason. 894 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: It's not really an excuse, it's a reason. 895 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: How would you approach that conversation with him to reconnect? 896 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would just say, like here, I you know, 897 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm here living in Norway, and like, you know, obviously 898 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: this is how we're connected, and I'm here and it's 899 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: been a long time. 900 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I hope you're well. 901 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: Send him a really thoughtful, nice email checking on him 902 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: and you'd love to see him, But make it clear 903 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: that you're coming from a friend's perspective, don't make it 904 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: flirty or weird. 905 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could even say, like you could you refer to. 906 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 6: Some earlier period of your life where I mean earlier time, 907 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 6: when you guys used to be friends, something used to do. 908 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Then I miss when we were whenever. 909 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 6: I know things didn't work out with but I enjoyed 910 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 6: talking out out, which is so it makes it really 911 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 6: clear that I think that is important. 912 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: That's not making it clear, Rachel, because that's making it confusing. 913 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: I think to say I really enjoyed hanging out with you. 914 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: Oh you mean in addition to fucking you like the 915 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: other things I liked? 916 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 6: Oh, I know absolutely, I know you're right, You're absolutely right. No, yeah, 917 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 6: you want to make it say when you weren't inside me. 918 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 6: I guess it's what you should add in parentheses, when 919 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 6: we weren't inside each other. 920 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: I think, just don't tell him you like anything about him. 921 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: Don't say that right now. Just reach out and send 922 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 3: a really nice email checking in how he's doing. 923 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: You love Norway, bring up things that. 924 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: There's going to be a response to, right, like all 925 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: the cool things about Norway that you've discovered or that 926 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: you love, that you've rediscovered, or that remind. 927 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: You of him, whatever, but in a non romantic attitude. 928 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, and I think that that's probably the right way. 929 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 7: So the last time I saw him. He mentioned that 930 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 7: his father had health problems, and you know, I burst 931 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 7: into chairs and I thought, this is someone I spent 932 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 7: for Christmas is with. 933 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: This is someone I really used to care about. And 934 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 5: I asked like, oh, do you want to hug and 935 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 5: said no. I thought, oh my god, you're right now. 936 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: What he wanted to hug you before? Like was that? 937 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: Was he never a hunting guy? 938 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 6: He was? 939 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it's funny. 940 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 7: Maybe I forced him to be like a physical person 941 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 7: when we were together, because I'm quite well. 942 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 6: I mean, that's probably a good sign that he in 943 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 6: a way because the fact that he wasn't immediately like yes, 944 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 6: like maybe when you do set those clear boundaries again, 945 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 6: take none of my instructions. 946 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Now that I think about it a second second, that's awful. 947 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: Don't take anything, Rachel says seriously, and I'm right behind her. 948 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: So you've got Catherine left only at Chelsea's instructions. 949 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: But I feel like this is an instruction only. I 950 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: still think you're hung up on him. I don't know 951 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 3: what it is, but you are giving off a vibe 952 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: that you're into him and you want to get in 953 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: and you're pretending that you want to be friends but 954 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: you want to tell. 955 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: You way it is. 956 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 6: It's because why would there even be a t the 957 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 6: fact that it's being discussed at all, Like, you wouldn't 958 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 6: be thinking about it this much if you're talking thinking 959 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 6: about talking to somebody again that you aren't attracted to 960 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 6: anymore or have no lingering feelings for it. 961 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: It would just be like you do or you don't. 962 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 6: Like I feel like you wouldn't waste this precious time 963 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 6: with my brilliant advice. Oh but I mean, like, I 964 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 6: don't know, there's probably something there. Yeah, so maybe take 965 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 6: a take a look at it. 966 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 5: I think there is probably something there. 967 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 7: I don't think I want to pursue anything like we had, 968 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 7: like you know, we were living together for four years. 969 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 7: I don't think I want to pursue that again. And 970 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 7: I do want to pursue something more open with other people. 971 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 7: And I've started recently dating again, which is felt interesting 972 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 7: and nice. But I think I think, Chelsea, you might 973 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 7: be right that there are some lingering feelings. 974 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: You're the way you're. 975 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: Talking about it, it's just like you're you're something you 976 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: want unfinished or something's unfinished. 977 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's too whimsical. It's too whimsical or something. Something's 978 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 6: not tracking. 979 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: Go get your tarot cards read. It's for a real answer. 980 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: I like that. 981 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: I like that answer for this. 982 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want the truth, go get your tarot 983 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 3: cards read. 984 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: And if he's not interested, I think you got to. 985 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 4: You got to give him space, like yeah, months before 986 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 4: you reach out again. 987 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of other beautiful Norwegians out there. 988 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: So that's what I say. I bet so I start 989 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: my day. That's my morning affirmation. 990 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 6: You're very handsome, Ryan. I feel like you'll do well. 991 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 6: I'm not worried about your numbers. 992 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: That's very generous. 993 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 4: Thank you all right, thank you so much, Ryan, Thanks Ryan, 994 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: thank you three. 995 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 996 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: Guy. 997 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm in Norway and never gets stark here. 998 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: No, yeah, he said. 999 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: He was like, this is the midnight sun now, so well, 1000 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 4: let's take a quick break and we'll be back with 1001 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: a quickie. 1002 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: To wrap up. 1003 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and we're back. 1004 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 4: We are back now. This email is not very quick, 1005 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 4: but I think the answer will be quick. 1006 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: Let me try and stay focused, Rachel, You and I 1007 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 3: will be trying to focused if we both try to 1008 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 3: focus at the same time. 1009 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: Who knows what kind of focus. 1010 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 4: We can gather, Amanda says, Dear Chelsea, Chelsea, I adore you, 1011 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 4: and I hope my life looks like yours one day. 1012 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 4: My best friend of over twenty five years got married 1013 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 4: last November. I planned the bridle shower because she lost 1014 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: her mother the summer we were going into high school, 1015 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 4: so my mother and I spent over twenty five hundred 1016 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 4: dollars on the Bridle show. She then had a destination 1017 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: bachelorette at Walt Disney World, which ended up costing me 1018 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 4: another two grand, and not to mention, she convinced me 1019 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 4: to get an annual pass because she claimed we would 1020 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: go back together in the next year, which was an 1021 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 4: additional five hundred dollars. Her wedding was a destination wedding 1022 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 4: in Mexico, which cost me over four grand, and I 1023 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: photographed her wedding, which is about a five thousand dollars value. 1024 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 4: There was a lot of drama leading up to the 1025 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 4: wedding with price is right. There was a lot of 1026 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 4: drama leading up to the wedding with her and another 1027 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 4: bride'smaid being very selfish, and she proceeded to make my 1028 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: life a living hell for the rest of the year. 1029 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: I think this is the other bridesmaid. My best friend. 1030 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: The bride continued to ask me to be the bigger 1031 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 4: person through all of the events and bite my tongue 1032 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: and not say anything to her, and I did just that. 1033 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 4: The wedding, everything went off without a hitch. I was 1034 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: the maid of honor, so I hired someone to come 1035 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: with me and be able to shoot the wedding since 1036 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 4: I was in it. Fast forward to the last day 1037 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: of the four day weekend we spent in Mexico. I 1038 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: admittedly got a little too drunk, which is something that 1039 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: is very uncharacteristic of me, and I haven't been that 1040 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 4: drunk in like seven years, and I lost all my 1041 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: inhibitions and said things to that other bridesmaid and her 1042 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: husband basically made a fool of myself. I have since apologized, 1043 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: but me and my best friend have not spoken since 1044 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 4: the wedding. Now to my question, since I obviously have 1045 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: her wedding photos, I assume this is something she probably 1046 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 4: wants as it has all of her photos of her 1047 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: guests and her and her husband, and I don't want. 1048 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: To just give her these photos for free. 1049 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: My question to you is if I should send an 1050 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 4: email stating If she wants these photos, the dollar amount 1051 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 4: is xyz, and if she doesn't, I'm happy to delete them. 1052 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: I understand that money is not everything, but I'm a 1053 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 4: single woman running my own small business, and she has 1054 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: way more money than I do. And I've wasted over 1055 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 4: thirteen thousand dollars this last year on nothing. It was 1056 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 4: a waste of my time, a waste of my money. 1057 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: And I did all those things for her because I 1058 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: thought we were important to each other. Obviously, over the 1059 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: last few months I missed her occasionally, but not quite 1060 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 4: as much as I thought I would. So please let 1061 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 4: me know if you think it's worth it to ask 1062 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 4: her to pay for the photos, or if I should 1063 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 4: not contact her unless she contacts me about them. 1064 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. I love you all. 1065 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 4: Keep doing the good work you do. Sincerely, Amanda, and 1066 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 4: no need to keep me anonymous. Let that bitch hear 1067 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 4: it a journey. 1068 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Jesus, fuck dear. What do you think, Rachel? 1069 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 6: I think you should do a little less accounting, a 1070 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 6: little a little less tallying. Yeah yeah, I think if 1071 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 6: you give somebody something, you just give it to them. 1072 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 6: You're acting like an accountant. These are like the commission 1073 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 6: statements I get from my agency, like, you can't. You 1074 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 6: just got to give it to them, and you can't 1075 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 6: be like if I was this, if we were friends, 1076 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 6: then A, B and C. Personally, I think you might 1077 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 6: want to just give her her wedding photos and work 1078 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 6: on your business. That's kind of what I think. 1079 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I understand you're if you can't 1080 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 3: find it in your heart or financially, like you can't 1081 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: not get paid for this, which you already agreed to 1082 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: do it without getting paid, so now you're adding a 1083 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 3: price for not talking to her. 1084 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: It's the same thing that rachels talking about. 1085 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 3: It's like tip for tap, like you should give them 1086 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: to her, and if if you don't feel comfortable you 1087 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: can't do that, then wait until she contacts you for 1088 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: them and then give them to her. But you shouldn't 1089 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 3: contact her and reach. 1090 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Out to her at all. 1091 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: Class it's with a dropbox link with all her wedding 1092 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 4: photos like that I think is the only communication here. 1093 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1094 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't really be in the business of charging. 1095 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to walk out of this as 1096 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: a bigger if it really was only a mistake that 1097 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: you made and you were completely provoked. Then your behavior 1098 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 3: in this instant should be to show grace so that 1099 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 3: she can detect or you know, infer what really happened 1100 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: in the long run. You know, you're just like shutting 1101 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: the door on the friendship another way by saying, hey, 1102 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 3: you owe me money for this, so yeah, release the 1103 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 3: wedding count. This isn't the advice you wanted to hear, 1104 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 3: but skip it. And when you have lists that long 1105 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: of what people have done to wrong you, it's also 1106 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 3: time to like take a look at yourself. You can't 1107 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 3: just keep score all the time. It doesn't work that way. 1108 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1109 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 6: No, I mean this is the kind of stuff that 1110 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 6: I do believe. Although I love the chapter email where 1111 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 6: you kind of like, you know, drunkenly said some things. 1112 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 6: That was the most fun part for me personally. I 1113 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 6: like when she hits the fan in a fun, loving tale. Sure, 1114 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 6: but I think that that might be maybe connected to 1115 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 6: holding on to all of this like resentment, all this talent, 1116 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 6: Like you don't want to be that tightly wound that 1117 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 6: you're crunching numbers every time you're hanging out with the friends. 1118 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: No, you know, no, not at all. I would let 1119 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: it go. 1120 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 3: Let it go everyone, Let it go. Rachel Feinstein, what 1121 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: a dream, What a dream, jew you've been Thank you guys. 1122 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 3: It's been nice to spend time with you. I look 1123 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 3: forward to spending more time with you in Hawaii. 1124 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 1125 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 3: And everyone else who's listening that we'll see in Hawaii. 1126 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 3: So I'll see you in your thong and you'll see 1127 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: me in your in your thong as well. 1128 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. This was so fun. I 1129 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: had the best time. Bye, Rachel. Congrats. 1130 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So upcoming shows that I have you guys, Auckland, 1131 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 3: New Zealand, Wellington, New Zealand, Melbourne, Australia, Brisbane and Australia, Sydney, Australia. 1132 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: We've added second shows to places that have sold out 1133 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: the first and then I'm gonna be in Hawaii on Maui, Ka, 1134 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: Huluey and Honolulu. I will be there in July. Also 1135 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: in July, I'm coming to Niagara Falls on July twenty seventh. 1136 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm coming to Hollywood, Florida for my only show in 1137 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: Florida on July twenty eighth. I'll be in Auburn, Washington 1138 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: on August first, and then Santa Rosa, California for my 1139 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: second show August second. August seventeenth is the Santa Barbara Bowl. 1140 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 3: You do not want to miss that. And then I 1141 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 3: will be all over Maine, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina. 1142 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 3: I'm coming to Texas. I'm coming to Saint Louis and 1143 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 3: Kansas City, and then I will be in Las Vegas 1144 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 3: performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan Hotel. My 1145 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: first three dates in Vegas are September first, Labor Day weekend, 1146 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: and then November tewond and November thirtieth. 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