1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals, Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: That's good us too, our number two here of the 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network and joining us now, 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: the Dean of Doom, the Lord of living in his fears, 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: the Great Bob Labriola, Steelers Historian, Steelers Digest, Steelers. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: Dot Com Labs. 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: Thank you for taking the time as always, and I 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: just got to ask you. I think we've all been 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: very encouraged by that offensive performance that we saw from 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: the Steelers pass game from DK Metcalf and I think 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: particularly Aaron Rodgers. Was that the most impressive performance that 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: we've seen from the future Hall of Famer in the 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Black and Gold so far this season? 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think there's any question. Yeah, I think 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: it's what you know, it's it's it's gonna be what 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: the Steelers need moving forward every game, every game. If 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers can put up twenty five plus points and 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: nope and not turn the ball over, I'll take that, 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna be It's going to require 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 4: something very similarly to that number of points. Uh, and 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: that you know, turnover ratio kind of thing in their 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: favor moving forward every game the rest of this regular 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: season and then into the playoffs is I think if 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: they if Aaron Rodgers can continue to deliver, that the 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Steelers will have a chance in every game they play. Now, obviously, 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: you know the other part portions of the team have 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: to chip in. I mean, I'm not laying this all 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: on Aaron Rodgers. You've got to produce this these kinds 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: of numbers, you know, all on his own, so to speak. 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: But you know, you need I think you need a 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 4: certain level of play from your quarterback at this stage 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: of the regular season in the NFL, and then the 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: postseason is just an extension of that. And that's why 36 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: they got Aaron Rodgers. I mean, that's to me, this 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: is why he is here for this time of the 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: year and to give the Steelers a chance in these 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: games that they will be playing at this time of 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: the year. 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's really well said in one thousand percent, 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, in order to get where you 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 5: want to go and win playoff games, your quarterback's going 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: to have to compete with other great quarterbacks. I know 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: they're not head to head. But I think that's really 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: well said, Labs. I wonder if you have any insight 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: on this because I have a hard time with it. 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 5: But I think it's remarkable and I think everyone knows 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: it at this point that Mike Tomlin on Monday night 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 5: is incredibly good, like the best coach in NFL history, 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 5: but as impressive, and obviously they overlap. They're twenty two 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 5: to oh at home in their last twenty two Monday 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: night home games. I mean, the NFL does not schedule 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 5: crappy teams for Monday night either why yeah all no 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 5: mean games or he's good to have with a little 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 5: extra rest. I mean, I don't know, but it's remarkable. 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. Uh And you know the Steelers of 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: the franchise are pretty good at home on Monday nights too, 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: So there's that, you know. I no, I really can't. 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't give you any specific This is 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: the secret sauce answer to that question. I'm sure that 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: at different times it has been different things. Yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 4: you know, I think there have been some Certainly there 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 4: had to have been some occasions where playing at home 65 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: was a significant advantage over the opponent. I think there 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: have been times when maybe the extra rest really came 67 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: in hand. You know, whatever weather and who you're playing. 68 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: Maybe this is one of those where you know you're 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: getting the South Florida team and the teams in terms 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: of the temperature. So yeah, I know what all I 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: can say is that, yes, what you just recited, Matt 72 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: were facts. Why those have happened? I mean, I'm just 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: like everybody else. I can guess, but I don't know. 74 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's because the fans had three 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 5: more irons than they did for a four o'clock game, 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: you know, but who knows. 77 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe there is some sort of uh, you know, 78 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: extra frenzy for Monday night in Pittsburgh. You know, I 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: don't know. It's hard, right, it is hard to ignore. 80 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: But let me say this. It's not that stat that 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: bit of history is not going to be good enough 82 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: on Monday night. 83 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: No, Miami doesn't care, right, Yeah? 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: You know what? What? What is it that the that 85 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: the financial advisors say past performance is no indication of 86 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: you know future reason does? Right? Who's going to play 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: left tackle right on Monday night? And I don't know, 88 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: you guys may have talked about this already uh t 89 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: J Watts lung condition. I mean, I don't know what 90 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: that is. 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: Concerning, right? 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: Does it sound great here as we sit here on 93 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: four at four point thirty pm on Thursday. Maybe this 94 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 4: is one of those the extra day situations. Maybe the 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: extra day comes in handy for the guys that are 96 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: in the concussion protocol this time around. Because I'll tell 97 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: you what something else. You know, the Dean of doom 98 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 4: Me is starting to get a little nervous about this. 99 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: I won't say that. The number of injuries, yeah, and 100 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: the way they're kind of clustered at some important positions. 101 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 4: You all due respect to Dylan Cook, I mean, you'll 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: want to be bringing a guy off the practice squad 103 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: and starting him on December fifteenth, especially in that position, 104 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: right at that position. 105 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: So it is Bob Labriola with us here on the 106 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: Drive Labs. I wanted to make sure and ask you, 107 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I think, the same question I've probably asked you of 108 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: vast majority of these Thursdays that we've had you on. 109 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: But I feel like a broken record, But how do 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: they get this run game going it? You know, we're 111 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: going through Matt's stats packet and there's only been two teams, 112 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: two instances of a team in the NFL this season 113 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: winning a game when they rushed for less than forty yards, 114 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: and it was the both times against the Colts at 115 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: home and then on the road last Sunday against Baltimore. Again, 116 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: broken record, because it feels like this is something we've 117 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: been discussing pretty much every week this season, except for 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: the you know, the couple of times that they have 119 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: had really strong performances on the ground. Anything that you're seeing, 120 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: is it just simplifying, is it just a commitment to it? 121 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: Is it more push up front? It's got to be 122 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: better than. 123 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: The four yards bringing how about bringing tackles up off 124 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: the practice squall. I mean there's that too. And you know, 125 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: to me the the Ravens game that that's always an outlier, 126 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: you know, thinking that we're pointing to the fact that 127 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: you didn't run the ball against the Ravens. I mean, 128 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: let's go back to how many games in this series 129 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: and how many times did the Steelers run the ball 130 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: well against the Ravens. It doesn't happen. And so I 131 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: think that sometimes the smart thing to do is or 132 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: the savvy thing to do, is to understand, now you 133 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: don't not run the ball at all. But they have 134 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: a lot of run game equivalent things, quick passes, you know, 135 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: sideline throws, you know that kind of stuff, And there 136 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: could have been a lot more of that if Darneld 137 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: Washington didn't get knocked out. But you know, numbers, statistics again, 138 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: I'm not I don't care if the Steelers don't run 139 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: the ball statistically effectively. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: As long as, as I said, if Aaron Rodgers is 141 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: engineering enough offense to score twenty five plus points and 142 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: not turn the ball over, I'll take my chances. I 143 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: don't care what the final status sheet looks like. Those 144 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: are the stats that I'm interested in. I'm not interested 145 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: in how many plays they run, as opposed how many 146 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: plays the Steelers run, you know, all of that kind 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: of stuff that a lot of outlets or media members 148 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: like to latch onto. Yeah, that's a story for that game. 149 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: But trying to take that and make it, you know, 150 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: some sort of trend that is either you know it 151 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: has to be overcome, or you know it cannot continue, 152 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: or you know, that's a guest who knows. 153 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: There's definitely a lot of ways to win in this. 154 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: League, right, And again I think it was I forget 155 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 4: who I was talking to talking about the Steelers identity. 156 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 4: You know, Mike Tomlin made this point a while a 157 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: few years ago to me that an identity, in a 158 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: lot of ways, all that is is a tendency that 159 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: you're giving to the opponent, which is, if your identity 160 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: is we're going to run the football, well that's a 161 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: significant if you're really if you really believe in that 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: and adhere to it, that's a pretty valuable piece of 163 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: information for every opponent you play. 164 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 5: I've always hated that term too. I think an identity 165 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: is you're tough, you're physical, or like in Miami's case, 166 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: you're fast, you know, like not they run the ball 167 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: a lot, or you know what actually happens on you know, 168 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 5: plates and things like that. I think it's more right 169 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 5: what you. 170 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: Call in certain situations, right. I don't know that you 171 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: want to have an identity, correct, So you know, and 172 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't mean this to any disrespect to you guys, 173 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: I truly do not. But that kind of stuff, the 174 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: stats and looking at trends and stuff, that's good talk 175 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: show stuff. It is, but that's all it is. So 176 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: and we May next Thursday. You may be saying to me, see, 177 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: they didn't run the ball again and it cost him 178 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: a game against the Dolphins, And that could very well 179 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: be the case, but it's for that specific you know, game, 180 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: in that in that specific situation against that specific opponent. 181 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: Easy for me to say. So that's I mean, I 182 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: just kind of look at these each as an individual, 183 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: standalone situation, and you will you analyze it for what 184 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 4: it was at that point and how it either contributed 185 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: to a win or loss, and then you flush it 186 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: and move on to the next game. 187 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 5: And we saw a lot of instances of Belichick and 188 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 5: Brady facing Casey Hampton and not even try to run 189 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 5: once and they walk out with a win. 190 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Or the Steelers playing Brady and Belichick with 191 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame running back who's on a roll, 192 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: or a guy who is the best running back in 193 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: the league that year, Le'Veon Bell in twenty sixteen I 194 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: think was the year and gee, three carries, four carries 195 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: in the first quarter, he gets injured. Done problem for 196 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: that game? Now where are you? So? Like I said, 197 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: it's the way I choose to look at it. And 198 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm right. This is just what works 199 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: for me. I tend to take each game as a 200 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: standalone thing, try and figure out why they won or 201 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: lost and point that out. And then after that and 202 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: then you've got to work on who the next opponent 203 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: is until you're either in or you're eliminated. 204 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: La, I want to go outside the Steeler comfort zone 205 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: for a minute, because I can't wait to hear your 206 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: opinion on this, Philip Rivers. I mean, have you ever 207 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: seen anything like this in NFL history? I mean, like 208 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: George Bland to do this, I mean, I can't imagine 209 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: it goes well, But I have to know your opinion 210 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: to him coming five years off the off retirement to 211 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 5: come back to play a couple of games. 212 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: Doesn't have anything to do with him. It has to 213 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: do with the Indianapolis Colts, their management and you know, 214 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: their their decision. I mean, Philip Rivers, He's just the 215 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: tool of that of what I see as their desperation. 216 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: You know, I think that because it's quarterback, the position 217 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: we're talking about, the understanding of the system, the plays, 218 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: uh and a relationship with the coaching staff is much 219 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: more important than if it would be a another position. 220 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: We were talking about receiver, running back, a defensive player, whatever. 221 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: So you know, the Philip Rivers thing. They obviously believe 222 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: that's their best chance. I don't know enough about around 223 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: the league to know whether that is true or not. 224 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: I don't know who else is on practice squads. 225 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 5: Not allowed to pick from. I can promise you that you. 226 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: Know, Okay, well I didn't think that there was I mean, 227 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: you know, this is the NFL in December, like it. 228 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: I mean, like Flacco's because even you know. 229 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: Right well, even the the George Bland of reference, I 230 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: mean they made it. He played quarterback, but he was 231 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 4: still on he was always on. 232 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 5: The team as the kicker. 233 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: It's not like he wasn't you know. He was literally 234 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: on his couch playing with his grandchildren, which Philip Rivers 235 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: can biologically. Do you know. That's not some you know, 236 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: analogy or hyperbole to prove the point that he's an 237 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: old man. I mean that is actually a fact. So yeah, 238 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know. And who you know if 239 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: you figure the Steelers are going to be the fourth seed, 240 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: okay if they get into the playoffs, kind of rooting 241 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: for Indy to. 242 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: Make it as the top and now all of a 243 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: sudden like. I hope he kind of rejuvenates himself and 244 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: gets him back in it. It's better than playing Josh 245 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 5: Allen or that guy that. 246 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: They played last week. What was his name again? 247 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: I forget mister Jackson. 248 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: Mister m v P. But you know, no, I have 249 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: never to finally get to it. I can't recall anything 250 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: remotely because he was going to be in the Hall 251 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: of Fame ballot this year. 252 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: He's a semi finalist. Yeah, well, I guess we could 253 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: start start that over. 254 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: Right if he if he takes a snap, you start 255 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: that clock all over all, all the way. And that's why, 256 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: as I remember, that kept Bill Belichick out for or 257 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: excuse me, Bill Parcells out the Hall of Fame for 258 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: a while because no one was convinced that he was done. Okay, 259 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: on the on the on the. 260 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 6: Board of the committee, the selection committee, interesting, so they 261 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 6: didn't vote for him, even though you know with coaches 262 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: and con it is this one year or it was 263 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: at one time anyway, one year, and there was no 264 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 6: confidence that Parcells was done, and so it took him 265 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 6: a while to get in. 266 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: As because I don't think it would have taken him 267 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: that time to get in if everyone was confident that 268 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: he was not coming back. 269 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: Makes sense. 270 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: And guys, just to cap this off across the timeline, 271 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: here just a few minutes ago from Adam Schefter, Philip 272 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: Rivers is tracking to start Sunday in Seattle. Oh boy, 273 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: well that'll make Aaron Rodgers happy. He won't be the 274 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: oldest player in the National Football League anymore. 275 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 5: And if he's like two full years older than Darren. 276 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: Well, and he's four full years older than Flacco. So 277 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: if Flacco and Rogers was the Icy Hot Bowl, if 278 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: Rivers and Rodgers meet, maybe it's the aar P Bowl. Labs, 279 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: thank you so much, Thank you so much for taking 280 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: the time as always here on a Thursday, and we'll 281 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: talk to you on Monday. 282 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: All right, falls see on Monday night. 283 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: There he goes the Dina Doom, the lord of living 284 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: in his fears, the great Bob Labriola, Steelers Historian, Steelers 285 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: Steelers dot Com, And of course he will be that 286 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: pregame show. 287 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 5: And I heard this morning just about Rivers because I 288 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 5: want to make sure we brought it up here. I 289 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: forget what I was listening to, but I think there's 290 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 5: a little bit of a loophole in this Hall of 291 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: Fame thing is right now as often as the case, 292 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 5: like the Steelers signed to Sante Samuel to the practice squad, 293 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: and that's not uncommon. You're still because you can always 294 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: elevate him, you know what I mean. So Rivers is 295 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 5: a practice squad player right now. Yes, you get three times. 296 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: You can elevate him for free, so he's not on 297 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 5: the Colts roster. The second he is on the Colts roster, 298 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: then his Hall of Fame clock resets. So hypothetically they 299 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: could call him up this week, start him, call him 300 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: up next week, start him three times, do it again, 301 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: be eliminated, not ask him to play week for eighteen 302 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 5: interesting and it wouldn't kill him. 303 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's a conversation they've had. 304 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 5: I'm sure everyone was aware of going in. 305 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: And I bet you if Philip Rivers probably said, I 306 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: don't give a toss, Like, who cares if it restarts 307 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: my five years? 308 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 309 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: Like he said, I'm probably willing to give that up 310 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: if we're in the hunt, and I'm still that means 311 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: they've won game, yes, and that means he could go 312 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: to the playoffs, you know, like, hey, if I end 313 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 5: up with the playoffs. 314 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: I'll restart my five years or if. 315 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: I'm playing for a playoff seating in week eighteen, we 316 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: must don something good during those three weeks. I'm willing 317 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: to trash it. But if we're zero and three and 318 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 5: we got beat by a million and nothing, and I 319 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 5: just got my head beat in. 320 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: For three weeks and we're eight and eight and playing 321 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: for nothing, I'm not gonna play that last game. 322 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: Makes a ton of sense. 323 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 5: So I thought that was kind of cool. That made 324 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: more sense to me. 325 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was asked about Philip rivers return today. He 326 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: said an I quote, well, I'm not the oldest guy 327 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: in the league anymore. 328 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: Love that. Oh man, it. 329 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: Does sound like we could and potentially even looking probable 330 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: that Philip Rivers will be under center Sunday for the 331 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. 332 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: I don't think many of us had that on our 333 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five big card. When we come back. 334 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: On the other side, we do have the Steelers latest 335 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: injury practice report. 336 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that. 337 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: What's the latest with some of these big names that 338 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: we've been keeping an eye on the last few days. 339 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: We'll have some clarity when we return Weshuuler, Matt Williamson. 340 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the 341 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. 342 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to 343 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 344 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 3: Rolling along here on the Drive on a Thursday, and 345 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: it is time now to take a look at the 346 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: Steelers Thursday injury participation practice report. Of course, all in 347 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 3: advance of Monday night's action against the Miami Dolphins. Wanted 348 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: to make sure to clarify that because Thursday is typically 349 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: like the big deal day of these practice reports this week. 350 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: But it's almost kind of like it's a Wednesday. Yeah, yea, 351 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: oh grain of salt everything. 352 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: Like typically if you see a guy did not practice 353 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: on Thursday, like, oh no, that's not great for his 354 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: status this weekend. Pretend like it's Wednesday and we're still 355 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: early doors in this process. So with that, Derek Harman 356 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: did not practice today. 357 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 5: Okay, we didn't Tom say something like we're going to 358 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: bring him a. 359 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: Long sloping to bring him along, So I like I 360 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: would have I would have been encouraged if he was 361 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: limited today. Yeah, but it's in this exercise of how 362 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: we typically do it for a Sunday game. It's still 363 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: really only Wednesday in the timeline. Let's wait and see 364 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: if he does anything tomorrow. If he doesn't practice again 365 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: completely tomorrow, then I would be pretty concerned for for 366 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: Monday night, but hopefully maybe tomorrow he'll be available in 367 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: at least a limited capacity. 368 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: I think that's a good way of putting it, like 369 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 5: only I would only look at it positively, not negatively. Today. 370 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: If today, you know, like, if you practice, wow, that's 371 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: ahead of schedule. Didn't then that's kind of expected. 372 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: You know, Tomorrow is really the first day where yeah, 373 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: then it might If he's a d NP tomorrow, it's like, 374 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: oh man, you know, I'd like to see him limited tomorrow. 375 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: But again, that's something that will keep an eye on tomorrow. Obviously, TJ. 376 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 3: Watt did not practice today, that we knew that was 377 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: gonna be the case. Ben Skronick did not practice hand injury, 378 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: James Pierre did not practice calf injury, Andres Pete did 379 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: not practice still in concussion protocol. 380 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: Okay, nothing shocking there for a Wednesday. 381 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: Nothing you know that's gonna throw me off for the 382 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: rest of the segment. Limited practice participants today, mister Williamson. 383 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: Both guys that are in that concussion Protocol limited today, 384 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Malik Harrison and Darnell Washington. 385 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: That's good news. 386 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that means they took step one. 387 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: That that means they took step one. I don't know, 388 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: like that's clear, Like cleared from the protocol is not 389 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: the right term for it. But they were at least 390 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: in a position where they thought they could do some activity. 391 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: Yes, so dy'e used to lay this out really well, 392 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 5: almost on a weekly basis, because somebody would have it incusion. Sure, 393 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 5: but there is a proto call. You have to do. 394 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: You have to do something on day one. 395 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: You have to crawl. You have to crawl before you walk, 396 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: before you run. 397 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: Right, So check the first box for both those guys. 398 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 5: They did as much as they're allowed to do, and 399 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 5: that's all we know they can they move on to 400 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 5: step two. They're in second grade now, you know. 401 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: Like the Billy Madison way, a couple couple weeks in 402 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: first grade, then you're back up the second grade. Full 403 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: practice participants. Here's the good news, Kyle Duggar, full practice participant. 404 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: That to me on a on a Wednesday, right right right, 405 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: is very good. 406 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: That makes me think he's playing starting great, Okay. 407 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf full practice participant. 408 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: Remember it now you can almost forget it or or 409 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: just at the back of your mind because of the TJ. 410 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: Watt news and everything that came up there. But there 411 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: was just an incident with DK Metcalf and having to 412 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: stay in Baltimore and have it, having that and having 413 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: I bet I forgot about it until I just saw 414 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: him on the report there. Remember he stayed in Baltimore 415 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: Sunday night, fly home with the team, flew home you know, 416 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: separately Monday. 417 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: So him being a full pra. 418 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Him being a full practice participant this early in the 419 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: in the week prep, I think is a very good sign. 420 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: That's great, Okay, Okay, And I forgot about that too. Yep. 421 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: Same same here with the just kind of you know, 422 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: getting later in the week and then obviously the big 423 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: t J. Watts story earlier today. But DK Metcalf was 424 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 3: dealing with some stuff with his abdomen as well. But 425 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: full practice participant today. That's great to see. 426 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 5: I'm expecting another big game on him too. Their corners 427 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: are not good. 428 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: I again, like lab said, it's not meaning to like 429 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: put it all on Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf. But 430 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: if you could get some semblance of what we saw 431 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: on Sunday for the rest of the year, Yeah, I 432 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: think we're gonna really like our our chances to uh 433 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: to sure up this division and maybe even feel good about, 434 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, potentially the opponent that you end up drawing 435 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: in January. 436 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 5: So I was want to throw one thing out there 437 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: and get back to practice report in a second, because 438 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 5: Rob mentioned this when we did the video today. Obviously, 439 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 5: Minca was traded for Ramsey. These two teams made a 440 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: huge deal not long ago, and we were featuring Minco 441 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: on the video and they're so their safeties aren't great. 442 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 5: Nothing about the secondary it's great, but there's corners are 443 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: so bad. Minca is playing a lot more slot yeah 444 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: in Miami than he did here. Well, Rob made the observation, 445 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: it's pretty funny, is like you traded your free safety 446 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 5: for a slot corner and now the slot corner is 447 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: playing free safety and the free safety. 448 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: Play like backwards day here. 449 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. You know, like maybe both teams should just 450 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: kept their guy or you know, it's just it's just 451 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: funny how the league works, you. 452 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: Know, the weird world of Matt Williamson. They traded this 453 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: guy to play safety. 454 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: He went upgrade slot and he's playing slot. 455 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: They traded this guy to play slot. Now he's playing safety. 456 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: And around and around we go. It's a very very 457 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: mad word. Patrick Queen full practice participant today with the 458 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: hip engine outstanding. 459 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: Aaron didn't mention him after the game, but like just 460 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: watching the TV. 461 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: Without a doubt, without a doubt. So that's good, I 462 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: mean really good news. And for Dugger, for Metcalf, for Queen. 463 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: That great. Aaron Rodgers full practice participant. 464 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 5: Today, outstanding, the veteran day off. 465 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: He had been doing that most of the year until 466 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks there with the wrist where he 467 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: rightfully so you know, took an extra day. But Aaron 468 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: Rodgers back to business, back to UH to practice today, 469 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: which is great to see why a Black full practice 470 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: participant with that shoulder, Keanu Betton full practice participant with 471 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: that ankle, so good. 472 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: Mostly I don't see any bad news there. If we're 473 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: not gonna call Harmon bad news. Was there a concussion 474 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 5: guy that didn't play? 475 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: Uh? 476 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Pete? 477 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 5: Okay, I think Cook's gonna be the start of there. 478 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: Malie. 479 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: I thought that was. 480 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Malik Harrison and Darnell were both limited and then 481 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: one and then Pete was was was not a participant 482 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: in today's practice. So that's the three, the three concussion guys. Yeah, 483 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm leaning. I'm leaning towards that way as well. 484 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: And that's that's. 485 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 5: Not the end of the world. I saw know who 486 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 5: the third tackle is if Pete's out and Broderick's out, 487 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 5: I don't I should know who that is. 488 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. 489 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: It is somebody in the. 490 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Practice squad, somebody on the practice squad. 491 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: Somebody on the prectice squad. Is not what you want. 492 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: No, they brought back Doug Nestor yesterday. I don't know 493 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: if you if you saw that who. 494 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: He's really a pinch to play tackle. 495 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: He's more of a guard. Yes, absolutely so. 496 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: Hey, there's always always room for mountaineers in western Pennsylvania. 497 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: Got a few, got a few of those around here. Uh, 498 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: just across the timeline, now, Matt, the Broncos waived tight 499 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: end Mercedes Lewis. 500 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be wouldn't that be something I don't Rogers, 501 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: he sure did for for a little bit of time. 502 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 5: Washington before Darnel Washington. He's a great blocker. But you 503 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 5: talking about old men. 504 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean he's forty one. 505 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: He's forty one, which, hey, for a quarterback is one 506 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: thing for for for a route runner tight end lining 507 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: up in the trenches, that's a pretty impressive. 508 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: Honestly, it's really a good career. He was the first 509 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: round pick and lasted this long. Yes, yes, that's not bad. 510 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right. So that's. 511 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: You know, I think that's the Yeah. 512 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: The news of the day. I have not seen anything 513 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: yet for the Dolphins. 514 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 5: Worried about a chan but I think he's gonna play. 515 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play too. 516 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: But that's that's when the kicker, that's the kicker is like, 517 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: is he gonna be a full participant all week? 518 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: Is he going to be limited? Is he gonna miss practice? 519 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: Exactly what it looks like, because maybe he's on a 520 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: little bit of a snap count type thing on Monday. 521 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: But again we're going I mean, people have especially for 522 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: a running back where you're I mean, you're the hit 523 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: and hit and hit. 524 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 5: He gets a helmet in the ribs early in the game. 525 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 5: Maybe a change of things cool. I mean not that 526 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: I've ever had them, but a lot of folks and athletes. 527 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 5: It's ribs. It's like I never get any good sleep, 528 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 5: you know, like you know you don't sleep, you know, 529 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 5: stuff like that. It's like I'm never comfortable all night. 530 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: You're tossing, you're turning, You're sleeping in a lazy boy chair. 531 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 5: That can't work out all week because everything hurts. But 532 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: I get the impression. 533 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: His minor Matt and how about this. I love it 534 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: when a plan comes together. Dolphins injury report across the time. 535 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: DeVaan a Chain with those ribs was a limited participant 536 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: today in practice for a Wednesday. Makes a ton of 537 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: sense as also limited Chop Robinson with the oblique Russeull 538 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: Douglas from Yeah, West Virginia University. He was also limited 539 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: with that foot injury today. Let's see here. Darren Waller 540 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: was limited, although they just listed him as a veteran 541 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: rest day to. 542 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 5: Say, no, I don't think he practices Wenesday. 543 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no specific injury designation. Let's see here. Other than that, at. 544 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 5: Least, I don't know what what else even look for 545 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: for that. 546 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Caleb Johnson did not practice with a shoulder. Elijah 547 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Campbell didn't practice with an ankle. 548 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: I think they're pretty healthy, with the exception of really 549 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: like the most important. 550 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: With the exception of, yeah, they're number one running back, 551 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Chop Robinson an important piece. Rull Douglas is their number 552 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: two corner I think, right. 553 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 5: And there's like two and a half sacks the last 554 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: two days too. 555 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, starter type, those are starter type. Yeah, not all 556 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: pro pro bowlers, but starter type guys. So that's the latest. Okay, 557 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: mostly good news for them. I think having having a 558 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: chain and chop and those guys limited today on a 559 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: you know again a quote unquote wednesday is mostly positive. 560 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: It's had a massive workload already this year might have 561 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 5: been the MP if he was totally healthy this late 562 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: in the year. 563 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 2: On point, you know what I mean, that's a good point. 564 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: And maybe that was also as much as poss Maybe 565 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: that was just one of those things of like, hey, 566 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: let's get you out there today just to see how 567 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: you respond and how it feels, and you can rest 568 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the week. 569 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: You could take it easy the. 570 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: Rest of the week, but let's just see how those 571 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: ribs feel out there after running around for a couple 572 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: hours this afternoon. 573 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 5: If anybody will tell you that goes to practice regularly limited, 574 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: could be really limited. 575 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Oh, like he could have done he could have done 576 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: a didn't break a sweat. I'm not even gonna shower. 577 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: I'm out of here, he as, I'll see you later. 578 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: I'll see you later. Yeah, I mean he that's a 579 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: great point by you. Maybe that was gonna be in 580 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: the cards anyways, even if he hadn't kind of nicked 581 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: up his ribs a little bit in met Life Stadium, 582 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: three one hundred yard games in their last four, and 583 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: let's be honest, would have been four for four. He 584 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: exited that game on seven carries ninety two yards in 585 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: the first half. 586 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 5: My team are like this play four quarters? 587 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure did you? And Rob King? 588 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: Did Rob King give you his his a chain fantasy story. 589 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: Yet this year he's in like similar to you and 590 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: I and most people, He's in a couple of leagues, 591 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: but there's like one that he really cares about. Yeah, 592 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: it's like his big money league. It's like me and 593 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: my buddies from high school that you know twenty years 594 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: and the one you really care about he had like 595 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: he's doing his draft on the computer. And Kinger for 596 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: being a really smart and bright guys, can be a 597 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: technological dfist a little. 598 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: Bit at times. 599 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you've seen that. 600 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: Yes, he tried to draft it was a wide receiver. 601 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: I forget who, but it was like an early pick, 602 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: early pick, not Jefferson or Chase, you know, but like 603 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: a pretty good let's say I'm on Ross Saint. 604 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 5: Brown, Yeah, you know, second round guy. 605 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he accidentally flubbed it and hit the wrong 606 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: button and drafted a chain and he's like, he's like, 607 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: the best decisions. 608 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it was what, maybe it was Maybe it was 609 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: what Uh no, it wouldn't have been Tyree Kill that early, 610 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: but it was someone. It was a wide receiver too. 611 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 5: It didn't work. 612 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: It hasn't worked out this year that it's had like 613 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: a down year injuries or whatever. And he accidentally drafted 614 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: the guy who's third in the league and rushing right now. 615 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: There you go, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful mistakes do happen sometimes. 616 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, so that one was pretty funny. But that's 617 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: that's the latest for the Dolphins. There kind of what 618 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: we know in that regard from from both of the 619 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: both the teams here on this quote unquote Wednesday esque 620 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: typically type practice, Matt, why do you say we take 621 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: a commercial break here, we'll come back on the other 622 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: side for our final segment of the day. 623 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: I want to talk with you a little bit about 624 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: Thursday Night football tonight. 625 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: A couple more teased across, and i's to dot before 626 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: we get up out of here on the Drive, West Huler, 627 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio, 628 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: your tuns. 629 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 630 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 631 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: Final segment here of the Drive on this Thursday that 632 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: kind of feels like a Wednesday, but also feels I 633 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: don't know, it's just different, these Monday night games. 634 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: They're always a little bit weird. 635 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: This time of year is just always bizarre because it's 636 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: like such a fever pitch with work and down the 637 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: stretch and season and everything andlidays, holidays and real life 638 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: and weather and all kinds of stuff going on. But 639 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: obviously it's exciting as well too, so we enjoy we 640 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: enjoy that aspect of it without a doubt. Matt, I 641 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: did want to just kind of take a look tonight 642 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Thursday Night football. 643 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Do we have two more? 644 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 645 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: Because through thing through Christmas would make so yeah, So 646 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: through Week seventeen. Week eighteen's the one where. 647 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 5: Is Christmas on a Friday this year? 648 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: Chris was on a Thursday this year. So the Chiefs 649 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: play on Christmas third straight year. There's three games on 650 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: Christmas this year, Dallas at Washington, Detroit at Minnesota, Denver 651 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 3: at Kansas City. 652 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: Which could mean something. The third one. Absolutely, it doesn't 653 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 5: break my heart that they're not have to watch every 654 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 5: snap games on christ. 655 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: Like it was last year, but it was Steelers, Steelers, 656 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: Chiefs and then the Ravens Texans. Yeah, it doesn't break 657 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 3: my heart either. Call me crazy, but that's maybe one 658 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: day of the year where I'm alright, not being concerned 659 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: about football and just hanging with the fam and everything 660 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: that's going on. But yeah, I remember, remember, I think 661 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: it was maybe earlier this week or last week. 662 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, the Chiefs are on Christmas Day 663 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 2: for the second straight year. It's actually the third straight year. 664 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: No one's gonna get more. 665 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: It's tough being popular out here, man. You know, it's 666 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: very very next. 667 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 5: Year to make any difference. If they don't make the playoffs, I. 668 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: Think you might be onto something that Travis Kelsey retires. 669 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: And that might slow down that could be the thing, 670 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: that could be the one that does it. Tonight Atlanta 671 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay five and a half point favorites. 672 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 5: I don't like how either team's playing. 673 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: I don't know absolutely, but for Tampa at least they 674 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: still have something to play for. 675 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's at Tampa too. 676 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: It's at Tampa, it's at home. It's against the divisional foe. 677 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 5: I think has been cleared, which just makes me happy. 678 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 5: This warms my soul. 679 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 680 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. 681 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: And maybe this is a little too early for him 682 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: on a short week to get back out there, but 683 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 3: maybe not with his status and he's in. 684 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. 685 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 5: Gayfield's been playing really poorly though. The offense has struggled 686 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: as a whole, and they're a lot different places than 687 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 5: they were a couple of weeks ago. 688 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: So many of those kind of people that we mentioned, 689 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: is like the early season MVP conversation, the Baker Mayfields, Yeah, 690 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: the Daniel Jones' situation, Jared Goff. I mean a lot 691 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: of these guys have not been utter disasters, but have 692 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: certainly not maintained that that high level of performance. 693 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 5: Mahomes actually was number one for a while too. They're 694 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 5: like Week five six, you know, the shortest odds. I 695 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 5: guess i'd take the bucks. I don't know what the 696 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 5: over under is. I might lean towards the under because 697 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 5: neither neither offense is playing well at all. Drake London's out. 698 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 5: They have nothing at wide receiver. 699 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: For three and a half. 700 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 5: Okay, Atlanta, this is hindsight, but they were so aggressive 701 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: trading up, you know, trading future first to get a 702 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 5: pass rush, and their defense or their their draft was 703 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 5: almost all defense, and their defense has been a problem. 704 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 5: But it's hard to ignore. And they really ignored an 705 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 5: entire side of the ball for an offseason, and they're 706 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 5: paying for it, you know, like if they were taking 707 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,959 Speaker 5: a third round receiver, they could be in better shape 708 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 5: than they are now. You know, like drafting no offensive 709 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 5: lineman makes it tough and the side that used to 710 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: be a strength all of a sudden starting to crumble. Yes, 711 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: and you know, yes, yeah, you can't just ignore one. 712 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: No, you absolutely cannot. 713 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: I like to think I'd lay the I'm laying the 714 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: five and a half with Tampa tonight. 715 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: Like see a close, ugly game, though. 716 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: At some point it feels like the Panthers are nipping 717 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: at their heels. They've just felt off lately. Can they 718 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: get it turned around. We've talked about kind of the 719 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: advantage of being at home on a Thursday night as 720 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: opposed to as opposed to having to travel on a 721 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: short week. 722 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 5: And needing it much more than Atlanta. Atlanta might be 723 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 5: cashing things. 724 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: In CanCon on three for Atlanta. 725 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 5: Short week doesn't sound much fun in the fourth quarter. 726 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 5: You know, it's a good pointing to play for, and 727 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: you know, cousins getting beat up and absolutely fired, and 728 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, that's not a great environment. What's thee 729 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 5: Then maybe Tampa after, you know, if they can win 730 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 5: the night and then get that ten days before they 731 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 5: go to Carolina, hmm, maybe they put some momentum together, 732 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, and rest their bones a little bit and 733 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 5: get some stuff fixed. 734 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 3: They do go to Carolina on ten days rest, and 735 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: then they go to Miami the weekend after Christmas, and 736 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: then they host the Panthers the final week and the 737 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 3: season and the tead Again. 738 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: The NFL really hit it with some of these games this. 739 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 3: Year at the end of the the year that could 740 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: have major major division playoff ramifications. 741 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 5: I don't think you know, the either the Panthers or 742 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 5: Bucks getting in the NFC playoffs is going to change 743 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 5: the balance of power of who goes to the super 744 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 5: Bowl all that much. No, but it's really darn cool 745 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 5: that to the last three games against the two teams. 746 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 5: Awesome battling for it. It's awesome. 747 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it's perfect. 748 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: It's not quite to the same extent of like Packers 749 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: and Bears right where you could see one of those 750 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 3: teams going on a run and being a real player 751 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: in the super Bowl conversation. 752 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 5: But still he maybe turning it around. But don't about 753 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 5: super Bowl conversation. But like waitning a playoff game. 754 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: Yes, hosting, and they're in all likelihood, I mean they're 755 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: going to host one or not go. 756 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: So yeah, they probably get Seattle or somebody. 757 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: And as you and I have outlined, they've been to 758 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: the playoffs five straight years, this would be six again. 759 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 5: Really successful organization for a long time. 760 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: They know what it takes, without a doubt. 761 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 5: Matt. 762 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: A couple of tweets to close us down here. Frankie 763 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: tweets us and says, if all capitals, if Aaron Rodgers retires, 764 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: the draft falls. As you guys highlighted on yesterday's show, 765 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: that would be Mendoza going first overall to. 766 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 5: The somebody trade up Jets Jets, Yeah. 767 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 3: And Dante Moore going second overall to the Raiders. That 768 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: was the scenario we went through yesterday. The top quarterbacks 769 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: are gone by the time the Steelers pick. There's no 770 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: noteworthy free agent acquisitions available at quarterback that you would 771 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: be interested in. Okay, so you've fallen along with this 772 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: hypothetical already. 773 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: Because there aren't going to be a lot of quarterbacks 774 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 5: on the move that are that are starter for sure, 775 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 5: less than most. 776 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: Years, It's going to be a lot of Mac Jones's 777 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: and Kyler Murray's and not guys that don't belong in 778 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,479 Speaker 3: the league. 779 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 5: Right, Not like you could go land your guy and 780 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 5: be set for years. 781 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 3: Probably, So, frankie Ze says, if that scenario you guys 782 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 3: highlighted plays out, with Mendoza and more going one and 783 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: two in the draft, no other quarterbacks to take, no 784 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: worthwhile free agents that you would want to sign, would 785 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 3: you roll with Mason or Will Howard? And also how 786 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: would you rank and discuss Will Howard if he was 787 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 3: in this year's quarterback class. 788 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 5: M that's okay of good question to ask because I also. 789 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 3: First part of that, absolutely Mason Rudolph of the two. Yeah, 790 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: if it's Mason Rudolph, Will Howard and then another rookie 791 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 3: who you drafted in the fourth or fifth round, or 792 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 3: a journeyman type quarterback that you signed free agency. 793 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 5: I mean, there's no way they're going Latrobe. But just 794 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 5: Mason and Will Howard, no chance, No, absolutely not in 795 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 5: a Skyler Thompson type. Would be somebody better than that. 796 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 3: Whether it's at this moment, whether it's a Joe Flacco 797 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 3: esque veteran. 798 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 5: Mary Oda or Mary I'm just trying to free agent, yeah, 799 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 5: or something. I mean, it would not just be Rudolph 800 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 5: and Howard battling it out, or imagine. 801 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: You know, a Hayes King in the fifth or sixth round, 802 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: or that's possible. 803 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 3: So you're Robinson on Day three something like that. It 804 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: would absolutely be. It would be, and I would want 805 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: it to be Mason Rudolph who gets the first team 806 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: start in the first team reps. 807 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but Howard maybe. 808 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: But what happened this would for the for Howard, for 809 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: Will Howard nation. 810 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 5: There's a lot of them out there. 811 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: This this would be the ideal scenario for Will Howard nation. 812 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 5: That's what everybody wants to do. 813 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 2: Mason is the number one, he's the number two. 814 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 5: And he's just so good he blows him on the 815 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 5: water and he takes over the job. 816 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: Or he at least gets he at least gets a 817 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: real crack at it, because. 818 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 5: I think he can get a crack at it if 819 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 5: that was actually. 820 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,959 Speaker 3: If they were the top two, yes, because if it's 821 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: let's let's go total pie in the sky, right, Steelers 822 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 3: trade up and they get a Mendoza or a Dante 823 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: Moore type, they're gonna be the one competing with Mason Howard. 824 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: And or when Mason Howard Mason Rudolph pardon me, and 825 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: Will Howard would be the clear third, not that he had, 826 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: not that he wouldn't get reps, not that he wouldn't 827 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: get opportunity, but he would be the clear third to 828 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 3: start camp as opposed to the clear number two. 829 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 5: Right, much like it, much different than like a Rogers 830 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 5: who doesn't want any preseason snaps. Howard, do you want 831 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 5: to give all of them to you? Couldn't. You can't 832 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 5: do that with the first round rookie. He needs to 833 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: get a lot of that kind of stuff. Yes, I 834 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 5: don't in terms of the question Frank's he's tweet's. 835 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: Good, He's a loyal he's a loyal tweeter. 836 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 5: But I don't know how to possibly rank a six 837 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 5: round quarterback from last year again this quarterback class. He's 838 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 5: not better than more Rendozo. No, he's not better than 839 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 5: the guys we talked. 840 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: I think he might be better. 841 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: If he might be, and again we still have to 842 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: What makes this difficult is we don't know what that 843 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: you know they are with that four through ten of 844 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, that's going to be who's going to go, 845 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: who's going to stay? The clash should they stay or 846 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 3: should they go is still up in the air. 847 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 5: But I would expect to do a lot work homework 848 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 5: on him too. I don't even know who they are. 849 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: I would expect he would fare slightly better amongst this 850 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: class than he did last year. Not that he would 851 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: go in the third round all of a sudden, but 852 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: I think I think I think he could go higher, 853 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: certainly than he than he did this past year. 854 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 5: Like if he was doing what he did last year 855 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 5: for Ohio State this year, maybe were talking about him 856 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: at the end of day two. 857 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 3: You know, yes, okay, yes, maybe he'd be the Dylan 858 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 3: Gabriel type in this year or even the fifth round 859 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: shitt Or Sanders. He moved, he moves up around. I 860 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: think those are real possible. Yeah, last one here before 861 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: we go. Joe tweets us and says, I love the 862 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: show and the quick peaks at your inside lives. 863 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: Remember we discussed that yesterday. 864 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: He said, how about a quick backstory on why you 865 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: guys call Chris Adamski buzz. 866 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 5: I have no idea, but I mean to ask you 867 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 5: that for three months, so. 868 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know the backstory. 869 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: I just know that when I got to the Steelers, 870 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 3: when I got to this job in twenty eighteen, and 871 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: I was just producing and doing behind the scenes stuff 872 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: at that point. But you know, when I was out 873 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 3: in La Trobe in twenty eighteen and met you and 874 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 3: Dale for the first time and working with Tounching Wolf 875 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 3: and all that stuff, Chris Adamski had a nickname that 876 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: a lot of the people on the. 877 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: Beat would call him Buzzsaw. 878 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if that's like a WWE thing, 879 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: if that's something from college. I have no idea. We'll 880 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 3: have to ask him how he got the nickname buzz Saw. 881 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 3: But that was a nick that that was a nickname 882 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: that he had that just got shortened to buzz Okay, 883 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: that's where it comes from. Yeah, I had no clue, 884 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 3: But I don't know how he got the nickname buzz Saw. 885 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: We'll have to ask him that. But buzz Saw was 886 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: his nickname, and is that often happens it got shortened 887 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: to buzz And so I, I honestly don't even know 888 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 3: if a ton of people call him that, other than 889 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: maybe like a few of the you know, the the 890 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: Sharkis regulars and things like that. But I just started 891 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 3: calling him buzz you know, seven or eight years when 892 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 3: the first. 893 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 5: Time really yeah yeah, yeah, so interesting. 894 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: And I think part of it for me too was 895 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: there's already enough Chris Is. There's Chris Halleck, There's Chris Carter, 896 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: there's Chris A. Damski, there's a lot of there's a 897 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 3: lot of Chris Is on the beat. And so I 898 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: think that was part of the reason why I stuck 899 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 3: with calling him buzz too, Because you'd be at Sharky's 900 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 3: and you go Chris and three people would turn around 901 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 3: and go, yeah, I supposed to way. 902 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: If you go buzz, it's just him. 903 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 5: I thought maybe you knew somehow through high school or whatever, 904 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 5: right connection. 905 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's a Mars Planets thing, 906 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 3: if he got that nickname in high school, in college, 907 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 3: when he got on the beat, whatever the case may be. 908 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 3: But we'll have to find that out. We'll have to 909 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 3: get some backstory. We'll have to get some backstory from 910 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: a Damski. But that will do it for us today. 911 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 3: Thanks to everybody who tweeted in. Thanks to Labs for 912 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: his time on the phone lines. Thanks to Nathan for 913 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 3: producing mister Television, Tyler V himself for doing the yeoman's 914 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 3: work on the video side of things. Here for today's show. 915 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: Tomorrow on the program, Missy Matthews, five star Friday NFL 916 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 3: picks Steelers Dolphins, all that good stuff as we continue 917 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: to get ready for Monday Night football for Matt Williamson. 918 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm Wes Shuler. 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