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Speaker 1: Thea Around the NFL Podcast does not tolerate seven and nine.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosa thought. What's up boys? Hey? Dan, Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: great to be back. And you know I check in

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Speaker 1: on the show when I'm not here for the reasons

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Speaker 1: positive or negative reasons. Um, you know towards me? Have

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Speaker 1: show that I wasn't sitting on You know what I mean? Well,

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Speaker 1: old zeuser is not involved. No, I just want to

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Speaker 1: listen to it because I know Colleen's gonna do a

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Speaker 1: great job sitting in, which he did, and I needed

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Speaker 1: to be caught up on the NFL because I was

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Speaker 1: a little bit out of pocket this weekend and that

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Speaker 1: was the first time I got to really experience it

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint. And another great show. You guys are

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Speaker 1: very talented podcasters of the group. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the whole thing, whose analysis did you find

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Speaker 1: the weakest. Why would you go there? Why not? At

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Speaker 1: you know, a point of view, fair question that answer.

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Speaker 1: This is a tease in the industry. To the end

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Speaker 1: of the show. Wow, I'm gonna stay tuned. The Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL podcast sponsored UH and

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Speaker 1: word organization and a second word determination. Very fair, very fair.

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Speaker 1: So we're very happy and UM today's show will be

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Speaker 1: a chock full of goodness. UH. The Monday night football

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Speaker 1: recap between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: will hit some news. There's a fair bit of news

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Speaker 1: to get to. UM, we will listen. I can't say

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Speaker 1: ends here a lot of people speculated or or criticize,

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Speaker 1: oh things of you know, degenerated into farce a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna be entirely organic today.

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Speaker 1: And there will be a vote, Yeah, there will be

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Speaker 1: a vote. Absolutely. We want to get it right, and

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Speaker 1: ritually sacrificed. Probably the person that said that just said

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Speaker 1: then and then finally, Yes, we'll hit up the Thursday

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Speaker 1: night preview. Is we peek ahead to week six? Uh?

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Speaker 1: An interesting a f C West matchup between the Denver

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Speaker 1: allow us to talk about what was said in said

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Speaker 1: In Charlotte, North Carolina, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers traveled uh

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Speaker 1: Because without Cam Newton, who was still sidelined with this

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Speaker 1: they were going to overtime before he took that time out.

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Speaker 1: You're you're rooting for him and not root against him,

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Speaker 1: of years back. Was released last week after kind of

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Speaker 1: falling out of favor in their in their offensive scheme.

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Speaker 1: He has landed with the Detroit Lions, a team that

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Speaker 1: certainly can use some help rookie Dwayne Washington, how having

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Speaker 1: some ankle issues. Theoretic really isn't that type of guy.

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Speaker 1: And of course a Mira Abdula, we might be we

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Speaker 1: might have seen the last of him. He suffered a

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Speaker 1: foot injury a couple of weeks ago. Mark Good signing

435
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Speaker 1: for detroitter won't make a ripper. I think they absolutely

436
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Speaker 1: just need someone in that backfield to start to take charge.

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Speaker 1: And it's the last couple of games when they've not

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Speaker 1: had a duel in there. They're averaging about sixty five

439
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Speaker 1: yards per game on the ground, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: Detroit for years and years post Barry Sanders has been

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Speaker 1: one of these teams that just has struggled to find

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Speaker 1: a running back that you can count on for a

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Speaker 1: year after year it's always this, you know, HOJJ POJ,

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Speaker 1: this committee. I like theo Ritic some of the things

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Speaker 1: when you get the injuries they've had for set is

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be there early down back and maybe

449
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Speaker 1: never use him in the passing game because that has

451
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Speaker 1: gone from my strength to a major weakness in his

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Speaker 1: game over the last few year. I mean, Riddick isn't

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Speaker 1: and they have Riddick for that yet, I Ridic is

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Speaker 1: a foundation guy for them. He's a guy who has

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Speaker 1: a long term contract. At what he does, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the very best in the league as West you

457
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Speaker 1: know put on his best thurned down backs. They just

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Speaker 1: need someone to carry the ball, and I guess they're not, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're not into Zack Zentner and Dwayne Washhington's gotta get healthy.

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Speaker 1: Moving out, Let's talk some Cleveland Browns football and their

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Speaker 1: quarterback carousel continues to spend. Charlie Whitehurst a favorite of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. We would play Glysserene right now,

463
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Speaker 1: but we've been robbed of the right to do that.

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Speaker 1: So just imagine a Bush single from right now. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a rare time that actually not having the music

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Speaker 1: might be good. Bush is the worst. I saw Gavin

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Speaker 1: Rossdale at a restaurant that Gregg suggested my wife and

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Speaker 1: I go to and just connect the dots there. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Gavin Rossdale also frequents this hi restaurant, our Korean restaurant,

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Speaker 1: and one day there was some type of snap foo

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Speaker 1: about a table now together. No, I was just someone

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Speaker 1: that watched uh MTV all day and when Machine Head

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Speaker 1: came on or whatever their first single was, it was

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Speaker 1: the worst song ever. Everything was it was. It was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Can't we get Patrick Kaganga to Emmy late put it

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Speaker 1: in our put in our studio, Kaganga our second floor

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Speaker 1: guitar whiz. By the way, Gregg and underrated foodie. He's

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Speaker 1: he's rated. I mean, I don't know if people would

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Speaker 1: know that. Well, all Right'm not saying that we don't

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Speaker 1: know that about him. Lollipops. Greg doesn't like to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: these a foodie. He calls his wife a foodie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was a chef, you know, that was that was

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Speaker 1: her occupation. So that really brought me into the world

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Speaker 1: of culinary delight. All right, so let's go down the list,

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Speaker 1: spoken like a true foodie delight. R G three one game,

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown came in. One game, Cody Kessler after McCown.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? More? Yeah, one couple of games. Ch

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Speaker 1: has Whitehurst rolled in. Now he's done, Uh, he's been cut?

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Speaker 1: Did I ever say that he has been released by

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Speaker 1: the Browns? And now is Kevin Hogan's turn? Is that correct? Mark? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it sounds like Kessler will is on track, tokay,

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Speaker 1: and McCown doesn't sound like he's too far away from

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Speaker 1: coming back. So there. I think what they're saying is

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Speaker 1: we'd rather have Kevin Hogan on the active roster than

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Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst too. Yeah. Look, the only thing I said

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Speaker 1: about Charlie white Hurst oring on Sunday was I would

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Speaker 1: rather develop, or even try or see a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a team that's gonna go about one in fifteen

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Speaker 1: than Charlie white Hurst. There's literally nothing to know about

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Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst. He and you know by the way he

501
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Speaker 1: hurt the team, the offense got a lot worse with

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Speaker 1: him on the field. So you know there's no mystery

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Speaker 1: around him. I don't. I know you guys may find

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Speaker 1: him entertaining. He was not entertaining me. Tell that to Jewel.

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Speaker 1: No mystery, nothing to find out about him. As long

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Speaker 1: has she been did those two have been learning about

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Speaker 1: each other from she keeps on covering? How much mystery

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Speaker 1: is left for Jewel? And you know who? I thought?

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Speaker 1: He was a guy with layers. Nashville magazine that listed

510
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Speaker 1: to one of the hottest apologies to that. Obviously that

511
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Speaker 1: publication is searching for answers if that's what they need

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Speaker 1: to get going, like seventy three men in Nashville and

513
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Speaker 1: not to Ashville Heat against man. There what it's nice

514
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Speaker 1: to see little Kevin Hogan all grown up? Um and

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Speaker 1: not to blue Labor the point, but this seems especially like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what's going on Kevin Hogan? Does he sound like a

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Speaker 1: sitcom character from the eighties, like a mixed between Kevin

518
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Speaker 1: Arnold and there was the Hogan family. There was the

519
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Speaker 1: Hogan family with Sandy Duncan who had a glass eye.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for not trampling on my little I didn't trampling.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure I got its proper

522
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Speaker 1: do and people can decide whether it was good or not.

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Speaker 1: The public decide, but not to be labor the point.

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Speaker 1: But all the carouself sadness here uh juxtapus was posed

525
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Speaker 1: against the issue when Philadelphia with Carson Wentz. Come on,

526
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Speaker 1: enough of this, Well, it's a problem. I I found

527
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Speaker 1: a Scouts note on Hogan. Who he's You know, he

528
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: won a lot of games at Stanford, but he's not

529
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Speaker 1: seen as a pro ready type quarterback. This is on

530
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Speaker 1: our website and this isn't quote. Some coach is gonna

531
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Speaker 1: fall in love with the person and bang on the

532
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Speaker 1: table to take him late in the six or seventh.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I think the Chiefs did take him in

534
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Speaker 1: the fifth, right, and then they cut and they cut him,

535
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Speaker 1: they cut him. You know what. I like the idea

536
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Speaker 1: of it. You never know where these guys are gonna

537
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Speaker 1: come from, do it? Wait? Factory has been replaced by Carousel.

538
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: Well the quarterback situations that carousel. The Factory is the larger,

539
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Speaker 1: which is built on an Indian burial ground. This is

540
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to the narrative around the

541
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Speaker 1: Browns and they will eventually win a Super Bowl and

542
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: it won't even be that satisfying. So I don't know

543
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing it because by the next day it's

544
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: like I got to go back to work. Everyone's like

545
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: slapping on the back, Hey, that's cool your team one,

546
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: and then like you still have real life problems, like

547
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Speaker 1: I'm not eight years old. What am I doing all

548
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: this for? Yeah? I think I think that's something that

549
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: could waiting for this magical moment from your childhood to

550
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Speaker 1: be like hatched out of an egg. But there is

551
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Speaker 1: no magical moment mark We're all gonna die anyway. Listen again,

552
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: I feel out of place on this podcast because when

553
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Speaker 1: the Jets win the Super Bowl, God willing, in the

554
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: next forty years, when I'm still alive, that will be

555
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: a magic It's just a self defense mechanism. I will

556
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: enjoy it too. I hope you have to work just

557
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. We can speak to eally about giving

558
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Speaker 1: you the next day off. I think what you're hitting on, though,

559
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: as you're growing older you think about it, maybe what

560
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Speaker 1: is what is all this? Is it going to be

561
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Speaker 1: as satisfying as if you were saying, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: about going to be It could be more satisfying. I'll

563
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: go the other way because the weight makes it more special. Yeah,

564
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: but your life doesn't revolve around it to the same

565
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: way did when you were seventeen. You didn't have a

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Speaker 1: ton of interest. All right, can we go on. I'm

567
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Speaker 1: a die hard fan of my sports teams. You guys

568
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: are all jaded journals. What do you want from me?

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Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, okay, jaded old men. Moving on, Gary

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Speaker 1: Kubiak will not coach the Broncos on Thursday against the Chargers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's dealing with complex my a complex migraine condition which

572
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Speaker 1: does not sound fun. That announced by general manager John Elway.

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Speaker 1: So against the Chargers, we will not have Uh Kubiak

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Instead, it will be special teams coordinator

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Speaker 1: Joe D. Camillis. Uh. And I would thought would be

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips on a but but apparently they decided to

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Speaker 1: go with old sugar bug Joe D. Yeah, and Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that will play a big effect

579
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Speaker 1: of the game, but it certainly could. I actually wonder

580
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Speaker 1: if that isn't a smart decision because you can allow

581
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Speaker 1: the strength of the team and the coach who directs

582
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: that Wade Phillips to be completely unencumbered by other stuff.

583
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Speaker 1: If you gotta seal if this is a one weekend point,

584
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Speaker 1: keep the defense in place. And obviously like they've got

585
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Speaker 1: a lot of experience, that staff has got a lot

586
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Speaker 1: of experience. Dude, what's the special teams coordinate you have

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Speaker 1: to do for a brighton Well that that's basically what

588
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: they said. They didn't want to take away from their jobs.

589
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Speaker 1: And it's a way that you try to get Joe D.

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Speaker 1: Camillis's name out there. He's a guy who's interviewed for

591
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Speaker 1: two head coaching jobs. Jilton Joe D. Camillis so coas

592
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Speaker 1: just throwing him a solid absolutely, because Wade Phillips knows

593
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a head coach anymore. Gary Kubiak

594
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: is trying to get this guy's name and get him

595
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Speaker 1: out there. He's interviewed for head coaching jobs that are

596
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Speaker 1: special teams coach. He's had a couple and I don't

597
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Speaker 1: want to um, you know, speak for a man's physical

598
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Speaker 1: uh condition in life. I don't know what's going on

599
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Speaker 1: with Gary Kubiak, but I do remember a few years

600
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: ago he collapsed on the field at halftime. Was coaching

601
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: the Texans, So that was a brain issue as it

602
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: turned out. Now he's got this complex migraine thing. You know, Bro,

603
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: you got your ring, you got maybe you've got to

604
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: think about at a certain point, is is this a

605
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: job for you? At a certain point, I wonder if

606
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: he will be a guy that steps away from the

607
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: game sooner than you would think because of this. The

608
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: tension is is that he's actually not that old. It's

609
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: not like right, So he's actually one of the He's

610
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the coaching ages, and it's

611
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: tension between wanting to get another ring, wanting to completely

612
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: cement your you know, your whole career and have people

613
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: look at you in a different way, versus walking away,

614
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: you know. And these guys, I'm surprised there aren't more

615
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: coaches struggling with overt health issues. With the hours and

616
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: the stress thunder, it is one of the most unhealthy

617
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Speaker 1: jobs in America. Kubiak is fifty five years old with

618
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: the hair of a nine year old boy. This jet black, Sure,

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Speaker 1: it's all natural. Finally, the Chargers. Members of the Chargers

620
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: are unhappy with their kicker, Josh Lambeau. After the CBS

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Speaker 1: broadcast um minutes after the botched field goal attempt that

622
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: Lambo never got a chance to kick. The snap was

623
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Speaker 1: mishandled um, leading to another crushing loss, this time to

624
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Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. Lambeau was captured by CBS uh kind

625
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: of running after Uh Sea Bass Sebastian Janikowski with a

626
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: big grin on his face, and then they had another

627
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: shot of um Josh Lambeau with a laughing with John A.

628
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: Cask as he walked out of frame. And apparently this

629
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Speaker 1: has led to some tensions in the San Diego locker room. Mark,

630
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Speaker 1: what did you see here? Did this bother you? If

631
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Speaker 1: you were a member of the Chargers are a fan

632
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: of the team, Well, it happened after the game, and

633
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: if you watch the full broadcast these games, there are

634
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: countless players from the losing team going up to friends

635
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: and coaches and former associates on the other team being

636
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: good sports frankly, and like the game is sucks, the

637
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: ending sucked, but they're human at that point in there.

638
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: They're able to deal with it a little differently than

639
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: some fans. So no, it doesn't bother me the way

640
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: in the context of how it happened. It's because he's

641
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: a kicker exactly. It's because he's a kicker. If he

642
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: was any other position, they're not seen as the same

643
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: as the other fifty two guys in the roster. And

644
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: I see the point that if if it's a repeat

645
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: problem and somebody's not taking their job seriously or their

646
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: laws seriously, everybody in the team should say something to him.

647
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: But if it's a one time thing and it's just

648
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: after a game. I've played a lot of sports, and

649
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: if I had a teammate come to me with an

650
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: issue with that, there would be a confrontation. You don't

651
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: get to tell me how to handle a loss. That

652
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: there's no one right or wrong way, And you've got

653
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: to be a self centered jerk to think that the

654
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: way you react to a loss is the only way

655
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: that's acceptable. There's a um there's a double standard to

656
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: play here too, because no one treats the kicker as

657
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: a real member of the team, But then you want

658
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: him to react in the same way as everyone else

659
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: on the team. That a guy that played every play

660
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: on defense at linebacker and uh, you know, played his

661
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: heart out and lost, So it's got you know, that's

662
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: a tough life for kickers. Just what we talked about

663
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Roberto Iguayo. It's a tough life for him. It's a

664
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: tough life for the lambinator. How about the how about

665
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: the holder who blew blew that? And just before he

666
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: dropped that hold, he had a seventeen yard punt out

667
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: of bounds that's set up a raiders. He was probably

668
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: still in his head thinking about that chunk when he

669
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: dropped the field goal. And here's one other bit about

670
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: like going back to West's point, um Julio Jones after

671
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: that crushing playoff lost a couple of years back, uh

672
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: to was it the forty Niners? This game he had

673
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: where he went nuts and they lost in the last

674
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: play where um, it was a target towards Tony Gonzalza

675
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: didn't work out. He was not upset at all in

676
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: the locker room, and they asked him why. He said,

677
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: because I literally did everything I could. I have nothing

678
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: to be ashamed of it. I I did my part

679
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. These guys react differently

680
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: to losses. Some guys are gutted. Some guys they kind

681
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: of have a different way of looking and then they

682
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: freak out of two head coaches don't shake hands after

683
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: a game too, so it's like, you know, you can't

684
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: please there's no dynamic here that would please everyone. Okay,

685
00:35:41,920 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Okay, guys, let's do it. O. Yes,

686
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: it's a serious special high all right, it's time. I

687
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: just crumbled up every piece of paper and threw it mark,

688
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: because it's time to settle this nothing personal market just

689
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: I got no I liked it, but I was I

690
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: was an not prepared caught off guard there, I apologize. Uh.

691
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: It is the team of a t L decision time

692
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: decision sixteen, and it is down to two teams, folks.

693
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: On one A. There's a studio audience here by the way. Okay, city,

694
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: you know what we talked about. You gotta get them in.

695
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: You gotta uddle them in, like on the prices. Right.

696
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: If you drive by CBS Studios in l A early

697
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: in the morning, you'll see all those people lined up

698
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: at five am. You gotta get him, huddle them, get

699
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: him in here for the beginning of our segment. Sorry,

700
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: my time management is a rule off today. All right about.

701
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: We noticed a round of booze for Sydney on this

702
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: one see that hurts well deserved, but Sydney is also

703
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: like I'm on Rushmore, I'm untouchable, so it doesn't matter.

704
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: It's like the audience for the debates. There's lots of rules,

705
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: so watch out audience, but we encourage, we encourage, applause

706
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: and all that. Anyway, here we go. So the five

707
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and old Minnesota Vikings. Who are Mark Sessler's Who is

708
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's nominee for the Team of a t L.

709
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Yet another great performance in Week five where there um defense,

710
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: especially really Um overwhelmed the opponent, this time the Houston

711
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Texans A thirty one, thirteen in and Mark. At this point,

712
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: as we now take this to vote um, you have

713
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: to be feeling very confident. There's nothing in your mind

714
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: or is there that would lead you to have any

715
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: doubts that this is the right team now five and oh,

716
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: the only undefeated team in the NFL. Well, the only

717
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: issue would be if we keep going and it sounds

718
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: like we're not going to We're gonna pull this out

719
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: today that it's people. I'm getting tweets, Oh the Vikings

720
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: are too good. This is a front runner team, and

721
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: it's like, I'll be honest, I though I was tweeting

722
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: about this on after the week to win, when people

723
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: still had plenty of issues over Sam Bradford and when

724
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson had just been lost for the season, so

725
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't a front running team. Then it was a

726
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: team that has since proven what they are, which is

727
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: for me, a fun to watch team. Are they perfect? No,

728
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: But I kind of like that about him too, And

729
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: for a lot a lot of things for me starts

730
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: with Mike Zimmer and it starts with someone like Sam Bradford,

731
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: who I've never been able to root for in the NFL.

732
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: I find that to be a different situation now, and

733
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: it's like last week you stay, you take Stephon digs out,

734
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, someone else steps up. I just like the

735
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: way that they operate from week to week. They are

736
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: fun for me to watch, and that's my vote. We'll

737
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: forget forget this after a week two, which which you're right,

738
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: this was a team that you were honking about in August,

739
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: and of course, you know, the injury to Teddy Bridgewater

740
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: shook some people's confidence in terms of what is the

741
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: upside of this team. But that's why to me that

742
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: they're so exciting is because of the story, because of

743
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: the people they're missing and because they keep fighting and

744
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: West you you said that you were going to go

745
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: back and rewatch the Minnesota Vikings and the Oakland Raiders

746
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: and uh see if you could formulate an opinion that

747
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: maybe would allow you to vote for one of these teams.

748
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts after rewatching the five Minnesota games.

749
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: So Friday, I went into my layer, tried to get

750
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: some findings like you do, dialed up game pass, and

751
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: you know, I I quite enjoyed it. And part of

752
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: it was messages I was getting on Twitter and our

753
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: subreddit from very sweet, thoughtful, charming Vikings fans basically saying, please,

754
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, excuse the people who have been idiots, and

755
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: we'd just like you to consider our team out of

756
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: the kindness of your heart. And they were, they were

757
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: very gracious messages, and I took that into consideration, and

758
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the games and I thought, I'm gonna go

759
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: along with this. I'm not going to be a stick

760
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: in the mud. I'm gonna go along with it. And

761
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: that was my mindset throughout the weekend, and then last

762
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: night put on the Texans Vikings game. The stadium is glorious,

763
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: the sun coming in for a Sunday afternoon game, It's glorious.

764
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: And the Helmets top five helmet in the National Football

765
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm already getting a little warmed up to this team.

766
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: And Cordell Patterson reaching his entire body for the goal line.

767
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: You can see that every member on this team wants

768
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: it on every play. What put it in and it

769
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: made this organic for me that I'm not just going along.

770
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I caught Vikings fever when Sam Bradford took that hit.

771
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: When he took that hit and looked like the most

772
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: the toughest quarterback in the NFL at that time, I'm like,

773
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm on board these Vikings. They're exactly

774
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: what Mark said they were. And for charges of front running,

775
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: that's fine. You can say I'm jumping on board when

776
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: they're five and oh Mark saw it when they were two,

777
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: and oh he saw it in the summer. And Mark's

778
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: attitude that Sunday night when he kicked his foot up

779
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: on the table is the Vikings attitude. I'm doing this.

780
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't care whether you guys go along. I'm doing this.

781
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't need you, and the Vikings don't care you

782
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: can take our quarterback, you can take our running back,

783
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: you can take our number one receiver, you can take

784
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: our tackles. We're doing this, and I'm doing it mark

785
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: by board with the Vikings. I love it. Now. Would

786
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: this have anything to do with you getting a bouquet

787
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: of flowers and waiting for that to come? Is it

788
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: that easy to buy? Chris Westling? That's the question I

789
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: have to ask. I gotta ask the question. Well, that

790
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: was a nice gesture, and it was a nice card.

791
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: It was a teddy bear and flowers and from some fans,

792
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: and it was basically the same message, sorry, don't let

793
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: a few And this was something I had already thought,

794
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: already thought the line. I remember my senior high school,

795
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: our principals said this about a couple of students. We're

796
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: not gonna let a few rotten apples spoil the whole bunch.

797
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: And I thought that over the weekend, I was like, yeah,

798
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: let's get past the rotten apples. And the card that

799
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: these Vikings sent me said the exact same line, Please

800
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: don't let a few rotten apples spoil. I mean, in

801
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: our devents, we've been telling you that for weeks as well, right,

802
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: but I was sticking up for you guys too. I

803
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: wasn't just doing it for myself and week coming out

804
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: of week five. I don't know when we picked these

805
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: teams in the past, but this is not an outrageous

806
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: time frame. We've come to a decision potentially, now let

807
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: me know. Now, on the other side of things, the

808
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Autumn Wind is a pirate blustering in from scene for

809
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: the rollicking song. He sweeps along, swaggering voice. Now let

810
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I see the writing on the

811
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: wall here, and I'm not gonna be a jerk about this.

812
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are a fun team to get

813
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: excited about. So who am I to stand in the

814
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: way and and and throw a fit about this? So yes,

815
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: if if it comes to it, I can get behind

816
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: the Vikings. But before that happens, I want to make

817
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: sure it's clear that everyone knows that the Raiders, in

818
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, were the ideal team of a

819
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: TL for this year. I'll tell you why. First of all,

820
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: there four and one, and they win games in a fun,

821
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: exciting way. Now, there are different ways to look at

822
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: the team. A til one is to get into the

823
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: lab and see what you like. About how they play defense, offense,

824
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: the way, certain elements about how the team looks on

825
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: a week to week basis, And then there's another way

826
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: to look at it, which team, despite not being the

827
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: most talented, the Vikings potentially are a super Bowl team.

828
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: The Raiders are gonna sniff the super Bowl, I don't

829
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: think this season. But they are a fun team. They

830
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: have wins of thirty five thirty and thirty four thirty one.

831
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: One of those wins, of course, on a two point

832
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: conversion try with seconds remaining in the game. Another one

833
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: where Lady Luck steps in and and botches a snap

834
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: on a field goal. If you turn on the Raiders

835
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: this season, you're gonna get a fun game from a

836
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: team on the rise with an exciting young quarterback. And

837
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: you want to get excited about Sam Bradford now being

838
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: back in in Minnesota and now things are starting to

839
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: click for him. Well, I got Derek Carr, who was

840
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: the second round pick, who's emerging as a star star player. Uh,

841
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: you have uh talent on both sides of the ball.

842
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: The defense obviously is not a great great defense, but

843
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: they are making strides of four and one. They're winning games.

844
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: Little Debbie of course is involved. I think that is

845
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: something that should not pass. We're gonna go against the

846
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: team that little Debbie has fought for, she said out

847
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: another tweet on one Day, defending her Raiders. And finally,

848
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: well two more points. Jack del Rio to me the

849
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: new Riverboat run after what he did in week one?

850
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: What black Jack del Rio is one of my favorite

851
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things I've ever seen a coach do.

852
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Was going for two. Did it last week against the Chargers.

853
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: This is nothing new. He is Blackjack and we got

854
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: behind Riverboat Ron a few years back for the very reason.

855
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: H a guy that's not afraid to be different, thing

856
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: outside the box. And lastly, and Mark was on the

857
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Vikings in the preseason. But the Raiders are the only

858
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: team out of the four that was picked before the

859
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: season started. I thought before the season this team was

860
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: going to be um, a team to be excited about,

861
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: and they absolutely were so were doesn't look like we're

862
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna pick him, But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't

863
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: have picked him. Um, that is my side on this.

864
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: I admire you. I admire you have nothing to hang

865
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: your head about here. You knew last week that it

866
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: was probably gonna be Vikings or nothing, and you went

867
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: along with it. But you continue your campaign. You have

868
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: not wavered, you have tweeted a lot of stuff out,

869
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: you have stayed supporting the Raiders. I think that speaks

870
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: strongly to your character. Also, thank you, Wes. I appreciate

871
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: that we also have a lot of support for the

872
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Raiders on our subreddit. In fact, they want to vote

873
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the team that we should go with.

874
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: So yes, there are reasons I'm still going to root

875
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. I think they're a fun team, only

876
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: not in a hardcore way because I'm a Jets fan,

877
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: so I don't really split things like that. But I

878
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: know that you're in for an exciting game with the Raiders.

879
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Greg your thoughts. I love the Raiders. I love having

880
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders Beaten back in the mix like I love

881
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: their fan base. I love their uniforms, I love everything

882
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: about them. You know, they don't get me quite as

883
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: excited for whatever reason than the Vikings. But the little

884
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: debbut argument is the is the tough one. I do

885
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: feel like we we need to figure that out. Maybe

886
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: she can be the official Rapper of the Around the

887
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: NFL podcast or something. I feel like we might be

888
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: burning in a bridge here, I hope not. Well, she

889
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that that voting for the Vikings is

890
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: is a non it is against the Raiders either, because

891
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders would flip side. I thought that this Vikings

892
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: thing was burning down, I would have not had a

893
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: problem going Raiders either. I I think this is more

894
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: about consensus than it is making a statement about the

895
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, because they have been everything you said is

896
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: true about them and it can't be taken away. And

897
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: you have been on that train from the start, and

898
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: we're not looking at burn bridges uh with Little Debbie

899
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: or our host. So you know there's issues out there,

900
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: but it's really about this group's try to come to

901
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: an agreement, and that's been more of the issue than

902
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: are the Raiders worthy? They certainly are. Yeah. I mean,

903
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: like I said, the team of a t L, I

904
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: just want us to pick a team. I have a

905
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: team of the Jet. So this is all secondary to me. Um.

906
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: So let's now officially, let's make it UH certified. All

907
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: in favor of the Minnesota Vikings is the two thousand

908
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: and sixteen team around the NFL. Say yeah, yeah, yeah,

909
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: yeah all opposed? All right? Oh the Raiders fans in

910
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: the crack. That effort got booed. Uh So your official

911
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL is the Minnesota Viking. They

912
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: will effectively lose eleven in a row. The one. Yeah,

913
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: And now that they're picked and all that's good, I

914
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: just want to say one other thing. You know, this

915
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: team high up in the pain rankings for a reason.

916
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: They break their fan bases hard every year. But again,

917
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: we're not trying to pick a super Bowl winner here,

918
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: so that might even if they do break hearts again. Uh,

919
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: if that happens in the a F NFC divisional playoffs,

920
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's every team of h L is broken.

921
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: They're not a perfect team. If they end up twelve

922
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: and four or eleven and five, that means they're gonna

923
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: go seven and four, you know, six and five the

924
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: rest of the way. There's gonna be some ups and

925
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: downs this team. It's about the journey. Yeah, it's about

926
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: we want to be along for the ride. We want

927
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: to be along for the ride. Now, I would like

928
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: to see some type of town hall now with west

929
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: End the critics all get together and maybe a Kumbaya moment.

930
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Is that is that possible, we can do that. Why

931
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: would I want to do that? I don't know what crowd?

932
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: Now that you're on board with the Vikings, you guys

933
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: are one and the same, you and these, uh, these

934
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: Cretans that you speak of, maybe now you can break

935
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: bread together? Do you even know me? I do know

936
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: you very well right? Why they don't need to be

937
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: in my life. I'm not trying to have Cretans in

938
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: my life. That's what the block buttons for Dan. Life

939
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: is too short to deal with creatings. Well you did,

940
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: you did come around to pick the Vikings. I mean

941
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: you were very strong against that at some certain points.

942
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: So maybe this would turn to I don't know, it's

943
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: a brave new world us you're in on the vice.

944
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Those people do not exist in my world anymore, Dan,

945
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: the world, I mean the this crazy The Around the

946
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: League podcast has chosen a team led by Sammy Bradford

947
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: as the team that they want to choose the world.

948
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Everything's changing. No, I'm on board, well on board, and

949
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I know marks phobia is that like they'll go on

950
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: a losing streak and we'll all lash out at him.

951
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I promise I won't do that. I'm on board this

952
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: team because I think they're exciting. Well, I thought that

953
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: you almost tongue cast Mark when you were doing your

954
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: little speech, so I thought, I figured you're not going

955
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: to turn on him. Hey, that was that came from

956
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: a natural place. And there is some natural heat coming

957
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: from Dan two and it is on my radar, and

958
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: I am concerned. I am it's on board of the vikings.

959
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: But get to make not comments all the time. I

960
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: could do whatever I want. This is your team now,

961
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: I will say this, though you got the reason why

962
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: it was. You know, one of the reasons I was

963
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: not all the way on board. It was because Sam Bradford.

964
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: So hopefully he doesn't turn into a pumpkin. That's all.

965
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm on board. Let's hope everything works out here. You

966
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: should go down and need your own layer and see

967
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: what finding you come up with. I found him. I

968
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: found him the first seven years of San Bradford's career

969
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We'll see. Let's hope. Let's hope everything's

970
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: good now. I just don't want us to have egg

971
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: on our faces collectively, that's all. Well, there's attitude that

972
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: you are if we have the team of a t

973
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: L right, if we have egg in our faces. You

974
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: will somehow have it on the three of our faces

975
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: while you ride off in a you know, a cream

976
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: color for me a break. You're part of this, right,

977
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Mark talked about, you know, winning a Super Bowl baby,

978
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: whendn't the elation wouldn't last long? I think it took

979
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds for the community feeling after choosing the team

980
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: of a TL to fill apart. Hey, I voted I'm in,

981
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: but you know once U by a time Les voted

982
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: for the charges. Yeah, all right, I don't like that.

983
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: This is ominous stuff coming from you. Let the record

984
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: show that you voted for the like Vikings last week

985
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: before I did, and now you're the hold out. I'm

986
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: not a holdout emotionally. Oh well, that's different. This is

987
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: like the sitcom cliffhanger, where you finally learn who gets

988
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: together to end the season and then they start the

989
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: very next season. Within the first five minutes, it's all like,

990
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: oh no, actually that's you know what you know, you know,

991
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: it's just like you were saying, Mark, when you're saying,

992
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, go have a nice day. You pick who

993
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: you want. I'm gonna be riding the Vikings. I'm still

994
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: in the Raiders corner. But as a group, I'm you know, well,

995
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the second part of that instruction was don't join the

996
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: vikings scenario. If you're going to be you know, I'm here.

997
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: Well we'll find out if you're here. I'm just doing

998
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: it for the show. I'm here. This is absurd. Dan

999
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: is now dancing around and see, all right, so there

1000
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: you go, everybody. You can stop tweeting us about how

1001
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: annoying the Team of a t L is and how

1002
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: what's taking so long? We've done the vikings of the

1003
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Team of a t L Forten and you know, like,

1004
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: get the studio on. It's out of here. Hey, al right,

1005
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: here we go. Moving on finally, the Thursday night preview. Yes,

1006
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: we alluded to it earlier. We spoke about it earlier. Um,

1007
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: there will be no Gary Kubiak on the sidelines for

1008
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Um it will be Jolton Joe instead. When

1009
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: the Broncos trying to get back to their winning ways

1010
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: after a loss in Week five, they take on the

1011
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers in San Diego. So here, Mark Sessler

1012
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: is a matchup between two teams coming off losses but

1013
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: still in very different places on the NFL. Spectrum right now.

1014
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Your initial thoughts about this game. I think it's a

1015
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: very different Broncos team right out of the gate. If

1016
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: you get Trevor Simeon in over Paxton Lynch, who was

1017
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: a picture of dangerous downfield lobbs into coverage last week,

1018
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Simeon's not been doing the same thing. If they get

1019
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: him back and healthy, and if you get you know,

1020
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: Donald Stevenson back right tackle, which was a major issue

1021
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: for them last year. They made the Atlanta last week,

1022
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: they made the Atlanta Falcons look like the six Giants.

1023
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: So you know you're you're dealing. It's a game against

1024
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: a banged up Chargers team, and you're not gonna get

1025
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: picked on the way Matt Ryan did. Throwing it to

1026
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: the best backfield combination in the league, short and mid

1027
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: range passes, eating up the middle of your defense for

1028
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: big yardage. It's a different situation. I appreciate you throwing

1029
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: out the eighty six Giants because everyone always just says

1030
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears whenever they're looking for kind of

1031
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: the they made him. They made him look that. I

1032
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: saw that on Monday, and everyone's always like they made

1033
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: him look like the eighty five Bears six big year

1034
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: for West and I do you ever talk about the

1035
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: seventy eight Falcons then we can really get into it.

1036
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: Whoa wow, seven eight Falcons. But you don't hear that

1037
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: too often. That would be that would see that would

1038
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: have been an even better reference. Marks would have been

1039
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: because nobody would have known and it would have fallen

1040
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: on deaf this This Broncos team is a proud group

1041
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: and they even been able to stop to run lately.

1042
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna look at this Chargers team

1043
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: and not really be too afraid of Melvin Gordon, who's

1044
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: not really the runner that we expected coming out of college.

1045
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: He's kind of the opposite. He's pretty good in the

1046
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: passing game. He's a tough runner that runs over people,

1047
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: but he doesn't make anyone miss. The Chargers are only

1048
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna beat them by throwing the ball a lot, which

1049
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: is probably right, and it's tough for any team to

1050
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: do that against Denver. If if people thought the Falcons

1051
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: provided a blueprint, the Chargers don't have the personnel to

1052
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: follow suit. They are best when they pass, like you said,

1053
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: which fits right into what the Broncos want you to do.

1054
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: Drop back to pass, so they can unleas Von Miller,

1055
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett, Shane Ray, and then their three cornerbacks who

1056
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: are really shut down corners. Melvin Gordon doesn't have the

1057
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: skill set of of Havin Coleman or DeVonta Freeman. They're

1058
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: not gonna He's not gonna burn your linebackers down the sideline. No,

1059
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: but I I think the Chargers can keep it close.

1060
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: This is one of those teams you said you're gonna

1061
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: still root for the Raiders. I root for the Chargers

1062
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: every week. I still really like this team. I find

1063
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: them entertaining. I think they have and players. Their games

1064
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: are obviously always close. It's sad how they blow every game.

1065
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa was fun to watch last week. He made

1066
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: a huge impact. Melvin Ingram's playing really well. They have

1067
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: this young kid, Jatavis Brown who came in from Ante Teo.

1068
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: That's an upgrade that did not hurt them at all

1069
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: losing Manti Teo. They've got They've got players on this team.

1070
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Tyrelle Williams make has made a lot of plays for

1071
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: them this year. Rivers is playing well. It's not a

1072
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: bad roster. They could easily be three and two, four

1073
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: and one, but they are not the They are not

1074
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: a diverse offense in the way that what Atlanta can

1075
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: do so many different things, and that that really was

1076
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: a matchup game for me. If you look at the Chargers,

1077
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: they use simply one back sets almost seventy of the time.

1078
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: They're in three wide receiver sets in such a majority

1079
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: that that's essentially their attack. But they haven't at Gates,

1080
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: and they had the Gates and Henry offense last week.

1081
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is good. I don't know what we're getting

1082
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: out of Antonio Gates, but he did make some a

1083
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: couple of catches last week. If you're gonna beat them, maybe, yeah,

1084
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's picking on the linebackers with those two tight ends.

1085
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 1: You want to check in. By the way, on West

1086
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: West is desert consiguliary. Mr Spice Rack gets back on

1087
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: the show. If Melvin Gordon runs for a thousand yards,

1088
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: what's well, he's I'm paced for total yards, but what

1089
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: we said was rushing yards, and right now he is

1090
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: off the pace, not by much. He's on pace for

1091
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: nine and fifty seven rushing yards. So spicy right on

1092
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: the cusp. Will we ever hear from him again? That's

1093
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: up to the San Diego Chargers on pace for touchdowns

1094
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: though he's been if he has a thousand yards rushing

1095
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: or twenty touchdown of a Gordon thanks for spice rack

1096
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: back on the show. Um anyway, So does anyone uh

1097
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: believe that San Diego will get over the hump in

1098
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: this game and get back to their winning ways? Uh?

1099
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: And as Trevor sent me in playing by the way,

1100
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: he's expected to. But we don't know for sure because

1101
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: that was a big loss. As it turned out. He's

1102
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: practicing and he's you know, they had him in shoulder

1103
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: pads to day, tried to see what you could do

1104
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: with full range of motion like the fashion shoulder pads.

1105
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: Well it was a non padded practice, so he was

1106
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: the only one. Maybe they're trying to sing women's fashion

1107
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: of it. No, it's not a not like a Hillary

1108
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: Clinton esque like pants suit shoulder pad scenario. Save it

1109
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: for the political podcast mark coming up there. I got

1110
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: some stuff for that podcast. Anybody all right? Anybody going

1111
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: to pick the San Diego Chargers speak now or forever?

1112
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: Hold your piece? Come on, Greg, you know you want.

1113
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it just for the sake of it.

1114
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me. But no, I'm not gonna do it.

1115
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: They'll find, they'll find it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, well what,

1116
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe they'll win. I

1117
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: believe they'll find a way to lose another close game

1118
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: and that Mike McCoy will be leading the top of

1119
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: our next pot. Well, actually there will be a whimpering.

1120
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he's probably gonna lose his

1121
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: job if they lose this game. I don't think that's

1122
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: a bold statement. And Rappaport and other insiders southern California

1123
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: look in right now Mike McCoy's home. Why does it

1124
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: bother you so much? This? It is very disturbing. I

1125
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: think it's funny. Is it the idea of flesh melting? Well,

1126
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, West and many others were offended

1127
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: by dogs helping. I care about humans, but this sounds

1128
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: like a fake. This sounds like a fake whipper. And

1129
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: that's why I find it funny. This is someone that

1130
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: you occasionally see at league events. He, by all the accounts,

1131
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: is a you know, it's a great offensive coordinator and

1132
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: a good guy, and we're simulating him being burned in

1133
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: a fire. It's slightly uncomfortable as an analogy for him

1134
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: losing his job, which doesn't help. You're big on that,

1135
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: You're big on let's treat these guys like humans, like

1136
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: anybody else losing their jobs. You're huge on that. Of

1137
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: the time. He's so big on that, you love that.

1138
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, well, we should have talked about this

1139
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: guy because he's got a family. I have hardly that.

1140
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: I have hardly that guy. I fail for those poor

1141
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Charges fans, that's give them something a roof for win

1142
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: this game. I think they can win it. They can

1143
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: absolutely win it. To Greg, they're gotta win the game.

1144
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: We just we just completely snow jobs. Fantastic. I also

1145
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: would love to see NFL media research. What is the

1146
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, since Thursday Night Football started, the percentage of

1147
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: the home team winning it was like a huge advantage. Yeah, yearly.

1148
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things happening, Like the

1149
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Chargers so desperately need this and they all know it.

1150
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: There's not a sin. Even even they're laughing. Kicker knows it.

1151
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: They need to get this thing. You're not bunny boy, Hey,

1152
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: get over here, rump. He is back in the mix

1153
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: at an unlikely time. Why did I q that up? Uh,

1154
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: You're not asking a team to go from Jacksonville to

1155
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: Sandy Goes Denver. But I think this is I'm trying

1156
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: to This is we talk about the vice Keen's overcoming stuff.

1157
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: This is Denver's game with an interim coach for one

1158
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: game and a quarterback that's coming off injury probably isn't

1159
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: fully healthy on any level. This is their way to

1160
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: show people on national television. We are that a f

1161
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: C version of that, But I'm attempting to distribute information

1162
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: to the listener in absolute chaos. No thanks to Janikowski.

1163
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: I rely respect you've done in your career, but his

1164
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: voice just get a lot Fastern's Johnny Chuckles. I mean,

1165
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: Johnny Chuckles is a total wild card. What's in his

1166
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: system or his bloodstream? We don't know. Plot cocaine. Um,

1167
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. So Greg, you took the charges

1168
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: because you gotta hear about West West? Are you still

1169
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: alive in our survivor pool? I forgot to turn in

1170
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: my pick last week. I was advances. Completely forgot it

1171
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: was in my life. Okay, I'm out a one. We'll

1172
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: see what happens. We will be back on Thursday night

1173
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: with the recap of the Denver San Diego UH matchup,

1174
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: and then a full preview of all the week six games.

1175
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: And UH. Once again I must thank all the listeners.

1176
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: We have to UH salute you. Our downloads continued to grow. UH.

1177
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: We are really uh. The audience is almost doubled now

1178
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: from where it was last year, So thank you. Continue

1179
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 1: help spreading the word of the around the NFL Podcast West.

1180
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: We had a very nice Packers fan who sent us

1181
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: a wheel of nice cheeses and sausages. Their name was

1182
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: Julie than I love that it actually prompted a a

1183
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: missive from the Shadowy League figures. It did, you know,

1184
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: be careful about some of these gifts. You might have

1185
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: to declare them with other Shadowy League figures. We have

1186
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: this or Well Orwellian plan in our life. Caught a

1187
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: compliance plan where we have to declare all gifts over

1188
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: X amount of dollars. It's it's really no one would

1189
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: have no one would have thunked this up outside of

1190
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: a novel a hunt Well. It's not unusual for for UM,

1191
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: a media company, to to have that rule. But I

1192
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: think if we are get we've given. I don't even

1193
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: want to meet and cheese is. I appreciate the gesture,

1194
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: but I can't eat them. So my portion went to

1195
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: other various people at that point. If it did cross

1196
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: the price barrier, it certainly came back down under. I

1197
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: think if you give part of the gift away to

1198
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: people in the office, you chip it off the final cost.

1199
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: Right anyway, all right, that was mark subtle way of saying,

1200
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: send some raw food next time. Well, no, don't send

1201
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: raw food to the mail or if a shadowy leak

1202
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: figures listening to this, I am not involved with. I

1203
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: have not taken any of the goods. All right, we'll

1204
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: be back with the goods Greg Thursday night. Until then, Uh,

1205
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: this is Dan Hanson signing off for the Quiet Storm,

1206
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: the mailman, the Boss, and the wonderful last side behind

1207
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: the glass. And these vikings better be worth it, Bill Thursday.

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