1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Monza this weekend, very so fun. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Week after week they take the road show from Zandvert 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: in the Netherlands down to near Milan. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 3: Right, this is Ferrari's time race top speed of more 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: than two hundred miles an hour afterge speed is something 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: like one fifty one sixty that many turns. These guys 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: are going fast, tom This is like one of the 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: races on the calendar that I love to see. Unfortunately, 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: for Ferrari fans, things aren't going so well gone into 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: this weekend. 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Lot's going on here and we can say good morning 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: to all of you worldwide who just love Formula one. 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: It's burgeoning. And what's Las Vegas? Are we going to 14 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Las Vegas? 15 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: We can find tickets? Why don't you ask on this guest? Okay, 16 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: well get a tickets. Maybe you can get us tickets 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: as well. Who should we speak to? 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: And as we've talked to Christian Horner and others of 19 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Formula one, there's always a desire to talk to the 20 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: gentleman who truly dominates and owns the high ground. And 21 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: John as you bring in mister Verstapp and all I 22 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: can say is this kid was in show. He was 23 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: in the show. He was in the big time before 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: he had his driver's license. 25 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing, isn't it? 26 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: Before he had the word Max Versteppen of Red Bull 27 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: Racing Joint us right now, Max, good morning, buddy. It's 28 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: great to catch up with you, sir. Nine wins in 29 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: a row just phenomenal. You're trying to make it ten 30 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: at Monster. How special would that be? 31 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course it's something that I never 32 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 4: even you know, thought about that that is even possible. Right, 33 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: But now that we have one nine in a row, 34 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: tying the record, of course you want more and I 35 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: think we have a we have a good opportunity. But 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: I von Reiss, I never straightforward. A lot of things 37 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: that can can happen. But yeah, I'm excited, of course 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: for the weekend. 39 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Max. Let's go back a couple of decades. 40 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Tell me back to the days when you're in a 41 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: go car and you've got to be around people like 42 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: Michael Schumacher and your father for that matter as well. 43 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: Is that where this hunger desire comes from to dominate 44 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: even after you get win after win. 45 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I mean, of course, you need 46 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: you you really want it from a young age. But 47 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: I think also the way I grew up, you know, 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: having the experience of my dad by my Yeah, for sure, 49 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: from a very young age. I think you you know, 50 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: get prepared in a in a different way, I guess. 51 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: And yeah, for me, it's never good enough, you know, 52 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: even you try to, you know, look for the little 53 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: details that can go better. I mean, for sure, this 54 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: year so far I think has been amazing, but yeah, 55 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: I will never be satisfied at the end. 56 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: Of the day. 57 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: Max, Tom and I were talking about Marco van Bastard 58 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: retiring from football at twenty eight and I always hear 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: people talk about you. They say things like he's going 60 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: to get bored, He's going to get bored by this, 61 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: or potentially step away to the records that Shue Mack 62 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: has set and they worth sticking around for you, Max, 63 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: is that's something that drives you. 64 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: Like I never really targeted like records. I of course 65 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: really enjoy what I'm doing now and for me at 66 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: the moment is the opposite. This for me is not boring, 67 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 4: This is really exciting. Like I'm always very motivated to 68 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: get to the track. I think it's more when you're 69 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: not winning anymore. And there's also no real plan and 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: play or the future where you see yourself winning again, 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: then probably you get bored. But I think retiring at 72 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: twenty eight for me is probably a bit too soon. 73 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Max John Faraoh is steeped in all that you do. 74 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: You grew up in England and lives Formula one. I'm 75 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: your ugly American. I'm new to this. I'm the one 76 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: you need a Las Vegas, you needed Austin, Miami wherever. 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: And in reading about this, and I go to the 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: great journalist Peter Windsor on this, he says, you do 79 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: corners and Kurt turns like nobody. He talks of silverstone 80 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: in the three turns of Maggots and Becketts. How do 81 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: you approach the tight turns of Formula one? Peter Windsor says, 82 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: that's the difference. 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: I think, you know, everyone has their own driving style. 84 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: But also I think what is key in our sport 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: is that you're able to adapt to whatever is needed. 86 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: So you know, every year we have a new car, 87 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: different looking car, and every single car drives a bit differently, 88 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: And I think, yeah, you always have to adapt and 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: learn and try to grow, try to be different, try 90 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: to really get the most out of the car, and 91 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: if the car has driven the fastest way in a 92 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: different way than what you're used to, you have to 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: try and adjust to that. 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Do you wish for a smaller, lighter car. 95 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: Of course that would be ideal, but you also have 96 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: to be realistic. I think with the safety standards that 97 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: are always improving every single year, that is not always 98 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: possible to go lighter. But I'm sure you know we 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: are looking into the future regulations as well to try 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: and make it better. 101 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: Mactual blusses. Thinking about the commercial stuff, we caught up 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: with Christian Horner. It's great to talk to Christian a 103 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: month or so ago, and we were talking about the 104 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: race Canada and how many races are now in new 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: places like in the United States, like in Vegas. For 106 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: a man like yourself, can you compare, say, a Monza 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: to a Miami a Las Vegas and actually get excited 108 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: about it when for some people the purists might complain 109 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: about this just be at a commercial event moving away 110 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: from the traditional race card racing and places like Monsa 111 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: in Silverstein. 112 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: Well, the beautiful thing is is that we have a 113 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: lot of different grand pries still and I think it 114 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: would be very boring if they are all the same, right, 115 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: And yes, I am very aware that you know, we 116 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: shouldn't go to all the I's said, the commercial places, 117 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: but I think also Las Vegas gives you a unique 118 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: opportunity and then time will tell you know if it's 119 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 4: the right way to go or not. But for sure, 120 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: from my side, you know, I like the pure race trecks. 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: I think n F one car as well. It really 122 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: comes alive on the proper race trecks like Monza, like Spy, 123 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: like Silverstone. So for sure, you know we need to 124 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: keep these kind of tracks on the calendar. 125 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Max. 126 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: They're always trying to rework the format when a car 127 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: a team goes through a period of dominance. I remember 128 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: when it just used to be qualifying thirty minutes, fastest driver, 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: fastest car. They get polled and they try to make 130 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: qualifying more interesting. Do you think tweaking the format with 131 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: sprint racing in one weekend not the other? Is that 132 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: something that frustrates she was a driver. 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not really excited by these things because I 134 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: think when something works really well, why do you need 135 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: to try and tweak it? And yeah, this is I 136 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: think a constant discussion and for sure that some things 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: god well some don't. But yeah, for me, trying to 138 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: keep it like it is, you know, probably is the 139 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: best thing forward because I always thought the quali find 140 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: format and you know, before you get into the single race, 141 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: I think is very exciting. 142 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: Max. I agree with you. I'm a complete hack at this, 143 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: but I totally agree with you. The sprint thing is ridiculous. 144 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. I love the qualification thing 145 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: the day before. I love to tune into that, Max, 146 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: for step and are you in a place is completely 147 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: dominant in the sports, involving all the money and the egos. 148 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: Where can you control the future of who your teammate is? 149 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: I understand there's autosport gossip in all that, but are 150 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: you in a position now, Max where you can dictate, 151 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: discuss or say who a future teammate will be? 152 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: Well, this is always up to the bosses and the team. 153 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: I mean, of course, I'm a team member now for 154 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: a long time, and of course things you know, you 155 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: talk about stuff, but I'm not the one who is 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: telling them what to do or deciding things. At the 157 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: end of the day, I need to focus on my job, 158 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: and that's try and drive as quick as I can 159 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: every single weekend. 160 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: We do a good job at that, Max, a good 161 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: job of that and particularly this season, Max, how close 162 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: are you with check Out? 163 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 164 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: We are very close. Honestly, I think we are very 165 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: similar in a way. Also how we're approach acting our 166 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: life outside of Formula one. And you know, he's a 167 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: real family person. Of course he has his kids as well, 168 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: and yeah, I'm pretty similar. I think it's good to 169 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: try and you know, sometimes switch off and just you know, 170 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: not think about Formula one. And I think that's where 171 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 4: we can really relate. 172 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: You know, what people are like, they like to stir 173 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: up gossip and tell stories. And Max, you've been reluctant 174 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: to get involved in the Netflix series, which has been 175 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: massive here stayside. Max, what's behind that reluctance? Why don't 176 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: you like doing those things so much? 177 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: I mean I think at one point, you know, certain 178 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: things are also a bit more private. Privacy for me 179 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: is very important, and you know, I like things to 180 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: be portrayed like they actually are, not with a lot 181 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: of let's say spice to it. But you know, every 182 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: year now, I mean we had a good chat every year. 183 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: I do. 184 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: I do have an interview and I explain my side 185 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: of the story, and I think that's important. I know 186 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: how Netflix is in a way, of course to try 187 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: and attract new fans, but of course, yeah, it's important 188 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: also to to really see the reality of the sport. 189 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: John, I'll let you ask. I mean, we're in London, 190 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: we come back, and that gives us just enough time 191 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: to go to Las Vegas. I want to go to 192 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: the number, but you know, if Max can pull some 193 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: strings for us, I think possibly we could be all 194 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: Las Vegas with Red Bull. 195 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: You want to ask him yourself, I'd let you ask please. 196 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: Max would prefers to ask Christian Horner and we'll ask 197 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: Christian a little bit later. Max, I wanted to squeeze 198 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: this in. I wanted your side of the story. I 199 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: don't want to talk about the last race. I want 200 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: to go back to Austria. Final lap of the Grand Prix. 201 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: You have the opportunity to set the fastest lap. You 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: make the call to make a pit to put on 203 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: fresh tires and go around to set the fastest lab 204 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: for a single point. Max, from your perspective, walk me 205 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: through the thinking. There is that something you've planned ahead 206 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 3: of the race is that something you think about in 207 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: the moment, and where does that confidence, that conviction come 208 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: from to go against the team who would like you 209 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: to stay out and just make the call yourself. 210 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I can do it. I know I can do it. 211 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: I've got the control, the ability to perform. Where does 212 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: that come from? 213 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: Max? 214 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I always tried to maximize everything I can, 215 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: and you know, I saw the opportunity for the extra points, 216 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: I was like, well why not. Of course, there's always 217 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: a bit of a risk with these kind of things, 218 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 4: but at the other hand, no risk, no fun, right, 219 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: So that's what was also going through my head at 220 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: the time. 221 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: Max, Good luck for race weekend during the team fantastically 222 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: catch up with you, sir Max forsteppan a red Bull 223 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: Racing