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Speaker 1: to announce its testing protocols, including how to deal with

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Speaker 1: predict the games and keep scores so I could dominate Ralph.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Rice Stir. He's Ralph Ampston and this is

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve Apostles. Thank you guys for listening to

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Speaker 1: George Rice Sir. And of course this is the podcast

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Speaker 1: Bipack twelve fans. Four Pack twelve fans where you want

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Speaker 1: the real, where you want to get the truth, and

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Speaker 1: of course, most importantly, you want to be entertained. So, Ralph,

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Speaker 1: it is game week. How excited are you? Because I

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Speaker 1: I am just dude, I I can't sit still right now. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just hoping that we get games because things

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Speaker 1: are looking a little scary right now. Oh used like me,

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Speaker 1: I am how did we flip rolls? I've I've I've

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Speaker 1: been excited like I would say, I've been more. I

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Speaker 1: Watching like full big twelve games is a new experience

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Speaker 1: for me, and I could probably do without spending all

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Speaker 1: Even though I've been impressed with Justin Fields, I just

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Speaker 1: some Pack twelve football, please, dude. How crazy would that

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Speaker 1: be if the Pack to have waited to start back,

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Speaker 1: down while while everybody while the Big ten only got

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Speaker 1: funny because I was talking to my wife the other day.

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Speaker 1: Like Arizona State is is probably better coach, they don't

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Speaker 1: in the morning, um, then then yeah he should he

429
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: should be uh, USC should be fine. If Drake Jackson

430
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: has a good game, well okay. So that leads us

431
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: to the next point about this game is the kickoff time.

432
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: Pactwell's first nine am kickoff game and everybody knows that

433
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: that's early coffee and football. There's not even enough time

434
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: to tellgate and get drunk unless you're an alcoholic. But

435
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: there's also like the impact on the players, like how

436
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: is okay? So the thing that people don't always pay

437
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: attention to or even think think about because they're really

438
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: enjoying their their games. Are gonna make their breakfast at home.

439
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: Being that nobody can go to the stadium, they're gonna

440
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: turn it on at eight, eight o'clock or seven o'clock

441
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: watch College Game Day or watch Big Noon on on Fox.

442
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna watch the game at nine o'clock. Well,

443
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: for the players to get to a nine o'clock game,

444
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: pregame meal is at four forty five a m. That hurts,

445
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: Like when I was talking about this with Ralph earlier,

446
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: who's saying, Okay, there's a difference in having to wake

447
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: up at four or forty five or five o'clock in

448
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: the morning and having to be somewhere at four or

449
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: forty five or five o'clock in the morning. I know

450
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: they don't have to get get dressed and well, well,

451
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: they do have to have some similance of clothes on, close, shoes,

452
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: slipper something. You have to walk out of your room

453
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and be somewhere at four or forty five in the morning,

454
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: and you don't get to go really go back to

455
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: sleep because you gotta go. So players will likely get up,

456
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: they'll eat a little something, they'll go back to the room,

457
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: go back to sleep, maybe take a nap, and then

458
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: get over to the and then head over to the

459
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: stadium on the six thirty bus. Most likely get over

460
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: there by seven or a little bit before seven. But

461
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: some players take the the early bus, which would be

462
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: the six o'clock bus, and get over there by six

463
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: thirty instead of getting over there by seven, and then

464
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: get ready for the game, pregame, all that stuff, and

465
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: then go play at nine o'clock. So you're already at

466
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: the stadium. I mean, mind you, some of these teams

467
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: practice early, but that's that there's a difference between being

468
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: ready to compete game level and being ready to compete

469
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: practice level. They're not. They're not gonna sleep well. I

470
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: mean I saw a quote Herderwards quote Sam, and we

471
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: want to make sure that they rest. I mean they

472
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: have had to wait two months longer than almost you know,

473
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: most of the early playing college football teams. The the

474
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: anxiety and excitement surrounding this has to be enormous. There's

475
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: some of the more sociopathic players that are ready to

476
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: mount up no matter what in any situation. They're they're

477
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna sleep fine. You know the Arizona say it's gonna

478
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: lose an hour on the way. Um. But I think

479
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: for most of most of the most players, one, if

480
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: you have to get up at four thirty, there's an

481
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: anxiety around that, right. Plus it's gonna be like one

482
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: of the biggest days ever. Plus there's the eminence of

483
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: not knowing whether or not this could be your last

484
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: game of the season because they have to play with

485
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: that stupid umbrella over them all of the time. I'm

486
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm like, if you, if you choose

487
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: just not to go to sleep and treat this as

488
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: like the typical eight thirty at night kick off, you

489
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, because on those days, the

490
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: players have already been up for like thirteen hours by

491
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: the time they take the field, some of them, and

492
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: so you might as well you might as well just

493
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: like wake up for the game at five in the

494
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: afternoon the day before. Yeah, well that's where all the

495
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: sleep monitoring and preparing and all that stuff really really matters,

496
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: because this is for all the marbles. I mean, Arizona

497
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: State has a chance because mind you, we just talked

498
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: about them dropping recruits and all of that. So this

499
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for them to say I have arrived,

500
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: and this is an opportunity for USC to say, nope,

501
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: this is this is um our turf steel. So I

502
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: I do think that the time, even though it's the

503
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: same wax, it's not even the same for both teams

504
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: because you have Arizona State traveling from Tempe which just

505
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: fell back an hour, coming to l A to get

506
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: up and have pre game me at four or forty five.

507
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: So that's actually what no, no, no no, it's actually later

508
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: for them. It's five forty five for them, but only

509
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: by a week. Do you think there's any advantage in

510
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Arizona States defensive backs being coached by somebody who was

511
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: on the staff at USC last year a little bit? Yeah, yeah,

512
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: because because you've seen it in practice so much, and

513
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: the and the air raid doesn't change it's look. I mean, like,

514
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: the concepts don't change. It's spacing. It's more about the

515
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy's and the Joe's than it is about the actual plays.

516
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like, so they got they definitely got some

517
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy's and Joe's a receiver at USC. Yeah so so yeah,

518
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: um so we both think that that's the most important game.

519
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: But then the next game up of the day chronologically

520
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: is Arizona at Utah. And I am very very curious

521
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: about this game because I don't know what to make

522
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: out of Utah at this point in time. I don't.

523
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I would I would call this the third most important

524
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: game of the of the opening weekend. Oh okay, so

525
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: third most that's where I'm at with it. Yeah no, no,

526
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: now it's this is fifth most important game for me.

527
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: God dang well, Okay, so my level of importance Arizona

528
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: State at USC then I got Washington at cal that

529
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm there with you for sure, with an argument to

530
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: me made for maybe it's number one, okay, um. And

531
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: then I got Stanford at Oregon. Okay, that's my number four.

532
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Then I got you see l A at Colorado. Yeah,

533
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. And then I got Arizona at

534
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Utah and Washington State Oregon State. Last, okay, we we

535
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: have the same last My number five is your number four. Um,

536
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: everything's just bumped down from me thinking you of a

537
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Utah is number three. But for the most part, um,

538
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: we're on the same page with a lot of this.

539
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: This is our biggest difference, I guess would be this game.

540
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Why do you think that there's not really a level

541
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: of importance there? But for me, the importance is completely

542
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: one sided though. Yeah, yeah, see that. That's why it

543
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: ranks so low for me because all of my expectations

544
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: are on USC or Arizona State to win the PAC

545
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: twelfth South, So that automatically bumps down ut Aw and

546
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: level of importance of their game. I don't expect anything

547
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: out of Arizona, like nothing. I have no expectations. I

548
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: would be surprised if they win a game if they

549
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: win a game besides Colorado, I would be surprised. And

550
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: you and I agree that the stakes from Arizona, based

551
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: on what John Wilner just tweeted out as we're recording this,

552
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: the stakes from Arizona are probably a lot lower because

553
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: with the budget shortfall that they're talking about looking at

554
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: right now, and they're putting on a hiring freeze and

555
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: even going further to eliminate positions continuing furloughs, there's absolutely

556
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: zero chance that they have the ability to afford to

557
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: move on from this year's coaching staff. So this is

558
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: probably staff wise, a complete mulligan for you of a yeah, yeah,

559
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: there's yeah, there's no chance. There's no chance, and this

560
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: game is I mean, if this game weren't this would

561
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: be a game that would be on PAC twelve network

562
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: if it weren't the pandemic. So but I am curious

563
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: to see what we're gonna get out of Utah because

564
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: looking at their depth chart, which was which was weird

565
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at their depth chart, but Kevin Sumlin

566
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't really said he didn't release a depth chart because

567
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: he was upset saying Utah didn't release one. But I'm

568
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: looking at Utahs and their quarterback more experience on the

569
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: old line than we thought. I think, yes, yeah, yeah

570
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: they yeah, they yeah, they definitely do. So they got um,

571
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: they got junior senior, well, junior sophomore, senior, red shirt

572
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: freshman sophomore on the on the line, and obviously, um

573
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Brent Brent Keith Brent Keithy at tight end, and um

574
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: a Fotherham they should be thing fothering Ham. That's a

575
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: hell of a last last name. Dude. Try try try

576
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: to teach your kid how they got all those all

577
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: those poul names, uh that that you have absolutely no

578
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: problem with on that roster, but you trip over the

579
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: one British sounding name fothering him. Um. And but we're

580
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: gonna see who starts at their quarterback, which is gonna

581
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: be Jake Bentley or what's named lisk So or technically

582
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: rising is it's a it's a three way tie. But

583
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: looks like they're going to give the My my guess

584
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: is they give the job to the player that they

585
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: named captain of the team. Right that that's usually a

586
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: good sign. So I believe in Kyle Whittingham as a

587
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: good coach. I got his name right. The first time,

588
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: but that's probably because I was reading it, so so

589
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: it's fine. Um, yeah, So I am unsure what's the

590
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: difference between winning Ham and frothing fingers or whatever. I've

591
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: said Kyle whitting him like at least fifty times. And

592
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: also I was looking at it, so I didn't I

593
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even tempted to call him. I'm just saying I'm

594
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: kill him. I'm just saying, if you can, if you

595
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: can get Kyle Whittingham, you can get their tight ends

596
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: name right, Yeah, fothering him, yere fothering him, dude. So

597
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: I just don't I'm unsure about what we're gonna see

598
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: with Utah after losing so many guys. I mean just

599
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean they lost what they have seven guys drafted, No,

600
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: eight guys drafted, and I just don't know, Ralph, I

601
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: just don't know if it turns into if they have

602
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: developed enough guys in the pipeline to where they're gonna

603
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: be able to step in and be as good as

604
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: those guys were, because you look at the what you

605
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: USC and Oregon and Washington kind of do they more

606
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: reload then they do rebuild at this point. Okay, so

607
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: the one thing that Utah does not have is an

608
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: experienced secondary, you know, right there there for the most part,

609
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: they're gone. And their defensive line also does not have

610
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. So tell me how that doesn't

611
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: give nol Mazzoni and his perfect quarterback a little bit

612
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: of an opening to really make a move and show

613
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: that this offense is capable. See what you love Grant

614
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Grant Ganell Like I don't, I don't, I know, I

615
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: never said, I never said that Pro Football Focus loves

616
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Grant And now I think Grant and L's fine as

617
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I think he's perfect for Normazzoni. He is

618
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: the brock Oswiler that Normazoni has been searching for ever

619
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: since leaving Arizona State. Okay, so us, I'm sorry. Utah

620
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: is favored by fourteen points in the game and the

621
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: games in Utah, who you got? I will pick Utah

622
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: to win this game. I do not think that they

623
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: are going to cover the spread. I think the defense

624
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: isn't I think the defense will be coached up as

625
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the season goes. But I think there's gonna be a

626
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: little bit of an advantage for University of Arizona's offense

627
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: in this game because they are actually they're they're pretty

628
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: weak on the offensive line, but they're very talented at

629
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: running back and receiver. And I think NORMAZONI can dine

630
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: design a pretty decent game plan um, you know, with

631
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: with bubble screens and you know, taking deep shots every

632
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: once in a while. As long as they can keep

633
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Gonnel upright, I think that he'll be able to get

634
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: some yards. I think that he'll impress some people. But

635
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it will have to do

636
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: with the fact that Utah is so inexperienced defensively. Uh. Conversely,

637
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I love like, I think that Utah could really eat

638
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: on offense this week. I really think they can um defensively.

639
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I do not have a lot of faith in Utah. Uh.

640
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: They just had junior cornerback Bronson Boy jump into the

641
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: transfer portal um and and even you know, even then,

642
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: the depth of experience on on Um as far as

643
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: their defensive backs, it's just not great. I you know,

644
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: so just the the defense I'm not impressed with. Offensively, though,

645
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: Britain Cubby is a solid option at receiver, Brian Thompson

646
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: is a solid option at receiver. Solomon Enis is like

647
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: he's incredibly talented. He just needs to find a way

648
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: to to put it together. They got to get somebody

649
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: in at quarterback who's gonna give him chances to make

650
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: plays down field. Um, you know, they've got sixties some

651
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: games of experience of starting from this offensive line, and

652
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: I think ultimately, you know they're gonna the choice to

653
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: go with Jake Bentley, and I think if they do,

654
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: he is I think this game could be a little

655
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: bit of a shootout. Um, but I do not think

656
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: that the Utes win by more than fourteen. So I

657
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: will take you have ad to cover Utah to win.

658
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: So last year's number one scoring defense Utah in conference play,

659
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: fit well in the during the regular season fifteen points

660
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: a game. They only give up fifteen points a game.

661
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: The worst scoring defense was the Arizona last year thirty

662
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: five point eight points a game they gave up, So

663
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: that's a twenty point difference. I do believe that Arizona

664
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be better for just sticking with one quarterback

665
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: or one style of quarterback instead of um flipping back

666
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: and forth between Khalil Tate Amasdon and Grant Grant Canell

667
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and Utah. They're gonna have to open the offense up more,

668
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: but I don't believe in in Arizona at all, dude,

669
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: at all. But then there's the pandemic. The offenses should

670
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: be ahead of the defense that we've seen that in

671
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: other conferences. So I'm going to take With all that said,

672
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm taking Utah and they're gonna cover this bread to

673
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: get give me Utah on both sides. Okay, all right,

674
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: then who do you think is is going to be

675
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: able to make that work for you? On on Utah side,

676
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: who's gonna go off? I think they're gonna be able

677
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: to run the ball. Well that there that either Oh

678
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: that brom Bromfield Willmore, they love, That's what I love.

679
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: Their backup running back Jordan Wilmore. I think he's gonna

680
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: have a monster year. Yeah, And I just this is

681
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: more of me thinking so lowly of Arizona. So they

682
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: they they lost their linebacker Colin school Er too. They yeah,

683
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: they lost I think their top three returning linebackers. Yeah, dude,

684
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: no way. They may give up seventy five points to

685
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: a regular offense. So yeah, I'm very confident about about

686
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: them in terms of and I do believe that in

687
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: the special teams area, Utah as usually has an advantage theirs,

688
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: and they're better coached. Arizona has been a disaster. I'm

689
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: taking Utah alright. NiFi Suel the linebacker Pinay suls brother

690
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: older brother. I think um isn't he He's like a

691
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: year older. I think that, Yeah, I think he could.

692
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: He could be in for a good game. I also

693
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: I've been following Max Tupai there, their right defensive end

694
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: out there at Utah for a really long time, and

695
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: he has not done I mean, he hasn't lived up

696
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: to the hype. They don't usually get the higher three

697
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: star and four star recruits out there. They're getting the

698
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: lower three stars and developed them, you know, them over time.

699
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: And he was supposed to be really good coming out

700
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: of high school and he's just sort of patiently waited

701
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: his turn. So you know, if if anybody's gonna have

702
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: a big game, I think it could be him. Yeah yeah,

703
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: all right. Um next game up, chronologically, of course, is

704
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: um U c l A Bruins at Colorado. And in

705
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: this game you have U. C l A is favorite

706
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: by six points. Who you got ralph? Uh huh. That's

707
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: tricky because of how terrible um U C l A

708
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: has been early in the season. You just brought something up. Yep,

709
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: oh you you want to you want to touch on it.

710
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: You saw the Chip Kelly quote. Oh I didn't. I

711
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: didn't see his quote, but you just really reminded me

712
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, Oklahoma Sincinnati. Uh. Yeah, they have been bad

713
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: in the oh San Diego State. Yeah, they've been bad

714
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: the last two years. In the beginning of the season,

715
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: just atrocious. Yeah. I don't have a lot of faith

716
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: in Colorado because I don't I don't know what they

717
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: bring to the table offensively. Um. And that's not to

718
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: say I don't understand their personnel, because I do. What

719
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand is how they're gonna use these players,

720
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: especially going up against um, you know the monster defensive

721
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: coordinator Jerry as An Arrow. Well, oh oh that was

722
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: that was very facetious. But I mean, this is also

723
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: a team with a quarterback situation in flux. Whether they're

724
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna go with Sam, Sam Noyer, Lito, Lewis, cham Handler,

725
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: anybody could walk out that door or finished or finished

726
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: the game as the starting quarterback. Do you think so?

727
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Little probably fits with what they've had

728
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: the last few years. Of just having a really big

729
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: body back there. Not that Sam Nyer isn't also very large, um,

730
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think anyone that there that

731
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: they have is is really much of a dual threat.

732
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: A lot of this is going to come down to,

733
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, can they find a way to move the ball.

734
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to rack my brain and think back on

735
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 1: Carl Durrell's tenure at U c l A and what,

736
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, what his teams look like and we're able

737
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: to do and and I guess that there's some level

738
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: of intrigue in this game. That is Carl Durrell returning

739
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: to the Pack twelve and then playing against the team

740
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: that fired him, or has it been so long that

741
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: who cares? Or is there so much because there's no

742
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: bad blood there. He was one of those guys where

743
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: they were like, nice guy, but we got to get better. Yeah,

744
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: now I I agree with that, and I just am Okay,

745
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: maybe I'm hoping against hope, but U c l A

746
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: and Chip Kelly have to get better. Right. Dorian Thompson

747
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: Robinson was better last year than he was as a freshman.

748
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: He still was, you know, making terrible mistakes at times

749
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: where you know, he'll do eight things right and then

750
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: two things just just bone head and terrible. So that's

751
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: where where he's at. But they've moved Dimitric Felton to

752
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: running back, I believe, full time, and he'll he'll probably

753
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: still get a little bit of wide receiver actions, you know,

754
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: like this this is a team that Cha Chase Colder

755
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: should step up at why receiver. I just I just

756
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: have significant questions about this defense and this offsite line

757
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: because they've had players transfer out. You know you U

758
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: c l A's defense probably gonna give up a billion

759
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: points because Jerry has an hour oh still, I mean

760
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: he hasn't been good since he's been defensive coordinator there.

761
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: So U c l A is favored by six points.

762
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that this ends up an extremely high scoring game.

763
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about like close to the fifties

764
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: and U c l A scores a late touchdown, wins

765
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: it by seven points or barely hangs on, Yeah, by

766
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: seven points, So like on a return or field lakefield. Yeah,

767
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna win by six points and that's gonna be it.

768
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: So I'm MAXI expecting a push, but I'm gonna take

769
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: U c l A. For to win and with the

770
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: points I am looking. I'm looking at U c l

771
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: A's depth chart right now, and I see four sophomore

772
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: offensive linemen starting. UM. One of them, Sean Ryan, I

773
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a star. The rest of them,

774
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about. I think anybody who would

775
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: say that they are is making it up because they

776
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: you know that we we just don't have a ton

777
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: of evidence for that. Um. Dimitric Felton, I don't know

778
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: if he's in every down back we'll find out. He's

779
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: definitely got the talent to do it. I think this

780
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: would be the year to do it with with you know,

781
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: so few Pack twelve defense is really set on what

782
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna look like. UM, I'll tell you what. I

783
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: love the linebacking corps for for U c l A. UM,

784
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: all of them, they do have a billion of them.

785
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: But you know, Bo Calvert I think has an opportunity

786
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: to be special on the inside. Lenny Toyoloa is smaller

787
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: in statute inside linebacker, but he is a playmaker and

788
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: so UM. I don't expect their defense of line to

789
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: do much. It's real, it's really going to be and

790
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: how they're used and things are are schemed. Uh. They

791
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: have a couple of good defensive macks, but nobody who

792
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: really jumps out to me as a as a playmaker.

793
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be a matter of, you know,

794
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: can they just put these players in position to succeed?

795
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think Week one is going to be

796
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: the time that they really get tested. Um So, I

797
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: mean I can see, I can see. Uh. You you

798
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: think both teams in the fifties, you think that while

799
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: of a game, I think for fifty three, man, I

800
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: don't even know if both of these teams have the

801
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: offensive firepower to do that if you didn't line up

802
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: a defense on the other side of the ball, that

803
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: they would drop balls, fumble or something all about. Um right,

804
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: that you have some Daniel Jones action. But I'll I'll

805
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: go ahead and give u c l A the benefit

806
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: of the doubt that they can at least it to thirty.

807
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Colorado can. I'll give him. I'll give

808
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: you c l A ten points and the win in

809
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: this game, just because I have more faith in what

810
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: they're able to do offensively. I think if they moved

811
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: to metric Felton around, I think if they respect the

812
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: fact that Dorian Thompson Robinson is a unique weapon and

813
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: and do maybe what the what you know, sent him

814
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: out on some designed stuff to get him out running. UM.

815
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: I think Chase Coda is special, I really do. UM.

816
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's a catch and run receiver.

817
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: I think he's a go up and get it guy.

818
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: And so you know, if you can have him just

819
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: kind of spying what Dorrian Thompson Robinson is doing in

820
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: the pocket and make sure that he's he breaks loose,

821
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, anytime there's a broken play, um, and he

822
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: can be the guy that that Dorrian Thompson Robinson uses

823
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: as an outlet down the field, then that can keep

824
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: some drives alive for them. UM. I don't see u

825
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: c l AS defense this year doing a on of

826
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: taking the ball away. You know, there might be some

827
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: turnovers from them being in the right place, but I

828
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of playmakers on this U c

829
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: l A defense. I think that you'll see a much

830
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: different starting lineup by week three or four if we

831
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: get there, than you actually have in week one, because

832
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: they've got i mean serious inexperience. Look at their outside

833
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: linebacker Damian Sellers. He was in high school last year.

834
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: You know that's gonna be you know, Quentin Lake at

835
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: safety over Alisha Guidry. That could flip um. You know

836
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: he's he's got more size, but I think Gidrey could

837
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: end up being the better player. Uh yeah, I don't know.

838
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this. This kind of a boring U

839
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: c l A team top to bottom outside of the

840
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: quarterback and some of the volatility slash excitement that he's

841
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: brought the last couple of years. Uh, someone, there's plenty

842
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: of room for somebody on this team to make make

843
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: a name for themselves, because looking at it at the

844
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: surface just kind of makes you want to yawn a

845
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: little bit. But the only team that makes me you'll

846
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: even more so is looking at Colorado's roster, and so

847
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: I would give you're looking into two teams, two teams

848
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: that gave up over forty I'm sorry, it gave up

849
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: over thirty points a game last year. And you know

850
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: they didn't make major I mean U c l A

851
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: didn't make major changes. Yes, So no, no, I'm not.

852
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm not falling for the banana and the tailpipe. Dude,

853
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe you his Nate is Nate Landman. Still, yeah,

854
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: Date Lanman, Still do you think? Do you think? And

855
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: you know sometimes high tackle stats are not indicative of skill, um,

856
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: but do you think he has a pretty good chance

857
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: to leave the whole conference this year? Yes? Dude, They're

858
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: always gonna be on defense. People are gonna be able

859
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: to try to run the ball on him. That's prime

860
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: set up for him, easy easy pickings. Am I? Am

861
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: I reading this correctly? That there the players that they

862
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: recruited to play nose tackle are six six, six two

863
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: and six four three eight five of my reading that correctly? Um, No, No,

864
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: so Terence Lang at sight five the nose tackles six

865
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: six and the other defensive tackle six. Yeah, I was

866
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: talking about the nose tackles behind uh um Jalen there

867
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Lloyd Murray six two nine freshman. Am I reading that correctly? No? No,

868
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: it says three on the I must have like a

869
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: smudge of my computer and I was like, god, dang.

870
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: And then they need to get on that U c

871
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: l A diet right right, because they are clearly not

872
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: even good and not spending enough on money, I mean

873
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: on food. Um, next game up? Probably you know obviously

874
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: a very important portant game UM Stanford at Oregon. And

875
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: this is this is a big game, dude. This is

876
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: a big game for obviously for in terms of who

877
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: I care about the most. But it's also a big

878
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: game because it's on ABC with Kirk Herbstree and Chris

879
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: Fowler Marita Maria Taylor calling it. But it's also the

880
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: conference's second best chance of getting a team in the

881
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff and kind of the the the lead

882
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: horse in the conference right right now. So you want

883
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: to present a good product on there. They're returning a

884
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: bunch of people. On defense, the defense looks really really good,

885
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: um still even with Thomas Graham being gone and Devin

886
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: Holland being gone, Like, the defense still but still looks

887
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: very very formidable now on the um because they still

888
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: returned two well, they still returned falal Um, Diamador Lenore

889
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: and Jordan and Scott who are all projected to be

890
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: NFL draft picks as well. And that's to go on

891
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: on along with Camon Dibodeaux Um Masafuna who played really

892
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: well last year. It's a big deal. The only questions

893
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: that they have are I mean, obviously, you need a

894
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: quarterback to win. So they have Tyler Shug who is

895
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: the starter, who's going to start the game. And then

896
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: they have Anthony Brown, the transfer who should be who

897
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: all reports have said he's been pretty good. The running

898
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: back room appears to be stable with c. J. Burdell,

899
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: and the tight end should be good. The wide receivers

900
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: should be good with Johnny Johnson, Pittman and Red. Now

901
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line, that's where the question mark is because

902
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: you lose Pnas. That's a that's a big deal, of course, Yeah,

903
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: of course, it's a big deal that they've they've got

904
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: there basically revamping their entire system. I don't, I I don't,

905
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't not. A lot of confidence is inspired in

906
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: me when I look at their depth chart and I

907
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: see that two different uh that both tackle positions could

908
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: be either player right, Like, why why are we in

909
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: a situation where you don't know if your right tackle

910
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: is going to be your left tackle or your left

911
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: tackle is going to be your right tackle. For both

912
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: George Moore and Stephen Jones, that just shows how versatile

913
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: they are. Rough are you shoot, No, I'm not. I'm not.

914
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be And and their depth chart honestly is

915
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: nonsense outside of like the idea that Tyler Chuck or

916
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown is going to be Like come on, come on, really,

917
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: are you personally offended by that? Well, it's any basically

918
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: anybody who's doing this right now, you expect us to

919
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: believe that five days from game day, you don't know

920
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: who you're starting quarterback is going to be. Yes, they know,

921
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and Tyler Shug is taking the first snap. I can

922
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: let you know that right now. Confidently, aside from him

923
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: having a Tyrod Taylor uh sabotaging incident, he'll be He'll

924
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: be will start again. Oh man for four guys? Um?

925
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, but what so then that? But that's a start.

926
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: That is a start. So what is the point of this?

927
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: What's the point of this? Is it? Don't? Is it

928
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: to keep Anthony Brown is not going to transfer again,

929
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the room to do it. Are they

930
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: trying to get the other team to try to prepare

931
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: for him? It doesn't In this day and age, I

932
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: think as a defensive coordinator at stand for it. Going

933
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: into this, you have to say, like, all right, well,

934
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: all indications are it's gonna be Tyler Shuck. We can't

935
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: really prepare for him anyway, because he's never started a

936
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: game before. So we just have to do what it

937
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: is we're gonna do. You have to understand that it's Oregon.

938
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: There's no gamesmanship in it. When when you're talking about

939
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: probably starting a quarterback who there's not really gonna be

940
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: a ton of film on I did. This stuff just

941
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me, Like, just tell us who's

942
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: starting at quarterback? Who cares? Coaches care, Ralph coaches care.

943
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: So Oregon is Oregon is favorite by eleven points. They

944
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: obviously have a brand new offensive coordinator, which I am

945
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: happy Marcus Arroyo was gone. Happy he's down at u

946
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: n l V with their new fresh black uniforms because

947
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: he was very average. And how much is your opinion

948
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: of Marcus Arroyo reinforced by every weekend of watching l

949
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: A Chargers football? Oh dude, everybody who watched who's seen

950
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: how Justin Herbert has played, is like, what the hell

951
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: were they doing with him in Oregon? Then, I mean

952
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: every single person, like what the hell was going on?

953
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: Because you had Marcus Arroyo at um at coordinator And

954
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: I tried to tell people this for so long. The

955
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: issue with him was and I was talking to a

956
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: Pack twelve offensive coordinator about this. He asked me what

957
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: did I think? And I was, like Arroyo in his

958
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: June in in herbert junior year, he didn't use enough

959
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 1: scat protection, which is a free release of the back.

960
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: So you have five people out on a route, and

961
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: teams knew that if they blitzed that the back would

962
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: stay in so they could get more pressure. And they

963
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: rarely screened to to slow down pass rushes. And then

964
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: they were alreadys throwing straight at the sticks, so teams

965
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: sat on everything. So that made Herbert look bad. And

966
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: then in addition to the fact that he was not

967
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: throwing it in a felt wide wide receivers really have

968
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: one the whole time he was there a guy that

969
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: got drafted. I mean, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought

970
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: that up because I do like their wide receivers. I

971
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: think that that makes for some good college wide receivers.

972
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: But I think the weakest point of this Oregon offense

973
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: heading into this year is you know, Jalen Red, Micah Pittman,

974
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: and Johnny Johnson, they're gonna they're gonna be fine to start,

975
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: but there's no height there. Yeah, but you're basically an

976
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: upgrade over what they have been having though. But yeah,

977
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: but so you have you have no real height there.

978
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Addison needs to find a way to

979
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: get back in the mix um here, but you have

980
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: no real height. You have a lot of speed with

981
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Red, but you don't know if they're going to

982
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: use it appropriately um or if it even can be

983
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: used appropriately after what you saw with with Marcus Arroyo

984
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: and and and so it's really interesting. It's gonna be

985
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: really interesting to see if they use these pieces the

986
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: way that they should, because towards the end of last year,

987
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching Johnny Johnson layout for passes thirty five yards

988
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: down the field. When Johnny Johnson's forte is get him

989
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: the ball in a bubble and let him dragging a

990
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: couple of tacklers for eight or nine yards to help

991
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, then you had you had health issues with

992
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: um with with Pittman, and I think I just look

993
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: at that. I see that as their weakest point. And

994
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that Hunter camp Moyer is a good

995
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: receiving tight end. I think he's getting blocked. Well yeah,

996
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's Cam McCormick, who's finally healthy again.

997
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: Um so Oregan is favored by eleven points. I got

998
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: the Ducks easy cruise because oh we didn't even talk

999
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: about Stanford. Stanford sucks like they really, No, they do

1000
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: do like they They have not been able to run

1001
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: the football for the last two years. Intellectual brutality is broken.

1002
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: And the only way I'm going to say that Stanford

1003
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: doesn't suck is if they come out and they stop

1004
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: trying to the way that they used to play football.

1005
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: I think that Davis Mills, obviously from Georgia, he's a

1006
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: senior five star quarterback. They have some talent left on

1007
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: this roster. They they had like fourteen fifteen guys transfer

1008
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 1: that could have been playing this season. There's no way, Ralph,

1009
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: there's no way that you can feel the good team

1010
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: with with these elements around it. I just you don't

1011
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: think a good quarterback can elevate the whole team. Not

1012
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: if not if you're playing running punt football. No, no,

1013
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: because they weren't able to run the football last year.

1014
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: Stanford and David Shaw have been predicated. Their whole everything

1015
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: hasn't been built on running the football. And if they

1016
01:02:51,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: can't run the football. They're nothing. Yeah, maybe maybe, maybe

1017
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: maybe they all change not having Walker Little. I think

1018
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: that I don't think you. I don't think you can

1019
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 1: here let me let me ask you this question, because well,

1020
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I do think that Walker Little matters more to Stanford

1021
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: than penn A Suel matters to Oregon. That's not to

1022
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: say he's a better player, but it's just to say

1023
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: that Oregon has more talent backing up a seul than

1024
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: than Stanford has backing up Walker Little. And also they

1025
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: lost Henry Hattis to Arizona State. There's a bunch of

1026
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: issues with with the grad transfers. We talked about it

1027
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: at nauseum. But I will ask you this, George, do

1028
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: you think, because of all the hype surrounding Jade Daniels

1029
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: against Keaton Slovis, do you think it's very possible that

1030
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback battle that actually entertains us the most on

1031
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: Saturday is Davis Mills against mystery Oregon quarterback slash definitely

1032
01:03:53,480 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Shark. Yeah. Um. Again, it goes back to the

1033
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: style of play that that Stanford chooses to play. Are

1034
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: they gonna, you know, try to run the ball on

1035
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: first down, second down? Get into the weird uh, you know,

1036
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: bringing in three offensive lineman and a fullback and you

1037
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: know and try to play, you know, on third and

1038
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: one and just run over people. Know, those those days

1039
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: are over. Football doesn't work like that. Georgia is seeing

1040
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: it right now. That's why they can't beat Alabama no

1041
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: matter what. Um Nick Saban changed his offense because it

1042
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't It doesn't work. Jim Hardball kept trying to do

1043
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: it in Michigan. He's had to abandon that. David Charles

1044
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: the last of the Mo Mohicans, and we haven't heard

1045
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: anything about their offense changing. So until that does happen.

1046
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: Give me, give me Oregon. I would take them plus fifteen.

1047
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, minus fifteen in this game. Dude, would would

1048
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: you do you think that the potential exists? This is

1049
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: such a dumb question and I deserve to be ridiculed

1050
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: for it, But do you think that the potential exists?

1051
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: That there is some type of curse at Stanford that

1052
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: does not allow the team to go into the middle

1053
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: of the season with the quarterback that was highly regarded

1054
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: heading into the season, Because if you think about it,

1055
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: ever since Andrew Luck left, we've basically seen quarterbacks look

1056
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: promising and then something happens, and then their backup comes

1057
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: in and is just good enough to keep that previous

1058
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: player off the field. That's not gonna happen to Davis Mills,

1059
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: is it? It might? I mean Jack Jack West might

1060
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: be walking through that door, buddy, Jack West. So who

1061
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: do you? Who do you have? Definitely not did you

1062
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: watch Jack West last year? It's not yes, yes, he

1063
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: was atrocious. Who so who do you have? Oregon's minus eleven?

1064
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: I at least feel like this line is more appropriate

1065
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: then the Arizona State US the line um give me,

1066
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: oh man, I hate betting again Stanford, especially early in

1067
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: the year, give me Oregon two to ten. So I

1068
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: guess I would say that they Dude, if Oregon can't

1069
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: score more than twenty four points, they they they have

1070
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: a problem. They have a problem. What if it's just

1071
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: a matter of ball control. I mean Stanford can't control

1072
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: the If Stanford can't control the ball that much, that

1073
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: means they're getting a ton of first downs eating up

1074
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: the clock, that means that they're going to score more points.

1075
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, so like like you can't have one with

1076
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: the one with the other. So how upset are you

1077
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna be even if Oregon wins if they score under

1078
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: thirty points? Very I'm gonna be very concerned because that

1079
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: means that Cal and Washington are now toss up games

1080
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: like games that you thought that you should win. Yeah, nope,

1081
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: I would would not feel very promising about that. But

1082
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: then that leads to the next game, Washington at Cal.

1083
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: Cal is favored by a point off the rip. I'm

1084
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Ralph, just off jump give me Cal

1085
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: straight up. I know they lost one of their most

1086
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: important coaching pieces in Gerald Alexander, who's now coaching for

1087
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, who's doing quite a good job with

1088
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: the defensive backs over there. Okay, so Washington, they have

1089
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: not announced their starting quarterback yet, so we're looking at

1090
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: either Ethan Garber's or Dylan Morris or Jacob Sermon or

1091
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Thompson. So I don't know, man, m last year,

1092
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: all Washington fans, we're going undefeated. We got Jacob Eason,

1093
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, slowdown, and you chose up with

1094
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Jacob Eason, And I told you I watched him at Georgia.

1095
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: He was nowhere near as good as everybody thought he

1096
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: thought he was Uh, the kid Kate Iden at tight

1097
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: end good. I like him. Their offensive line should be good.

1098
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: They're um they're young at right tackle and at left guard,

1099
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: but I still think that this should be a solid group.

1100
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: But most importantly their defense, because their defense was young

1101
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: last year. Um, they got the return on nine starters, right, Yeah, yeah,

1102
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: that's what that That's why I expect their defense to

1103
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: be so good is because they started so young last

1104
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: year and now mixed in they have what four senior

1105
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: starting so and that's it. Everybody else is underclassman. So

1106
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: this should be a significantly improved defense. And I expect

1107
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: this to be one of the more formidable defenses in

1108
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve. And the question is their offense, Like

1109
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: that's where all the questions about this team lie right now.

1110
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Do you think the personality of this team is going

1111
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: to change it all? With Jimmy Lake being being the

1112
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: headman in charge, they better hope it's in a positive

1113
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: way because the last couple of years their offense has

1114
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: let them down. Coach Pete's ultra conservative was ultra conservative.

1115
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: I think that that's what led to some of their losses,

1116
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: was like they used to shift in motion, trying to

1117
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: control the clock. And one thing that we know analytics

1118
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: has taught us that the that there is no correlation

1119
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: between winning and losing and time of possession, no correlation.

1120
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: There is a correlation between. The biggest one is turnovers

1121
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: and then it's scoring on special teams, defense like things

1122
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: like that. That correlates. When people get to talking about

1123
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: time of possession, nobody cares to like, nobody cares like.

1124
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: You see teams put up forty points with way less

1125
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: time I'm in possession just because they scored quickly and

1126
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: the other teams plodding down the field and get blown

1127
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: out that it does not mean anything. I think that

1128
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: I think that Washington's defense being experienced is huge. I

1129
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: think that Jimmy Lakes still being there the continuity will

1130
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: make that defense formidable. They were recruited very well, They

1131
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent, and I think that University

1132
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: of Washington Advance should be very excited about what they're

1133
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: bringing to the table defensively. I also think that it

1134
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: would be just nice to see a shift from you know,

1135
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: the Washington defense the last few years has been kind

1136
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: of like hold your breath and hope they make a

1137
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: big play. Yeah. Um, I think that they could they

1138
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: what I think you'd want to see them make that

1139
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: shift into just having that attitude and that swagger of

1140
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: like we're gonna come in and we're going to set

1141
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: the tone instead of like the whole thing is gonna

1142
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a high wire act, you know. Um.

1143
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: But the most important, probably the most important higher in

1144
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: the entire conference, um, for any of these coaches last year,

1145
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: might be replacing Bush Hommdan with John Donovan as offensive coordinator.

1146
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned that in the open. This is a guy

1147
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: who has not ever professionally coached west of the state

1148
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. He's in a very new environment, a very

1149
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: new culture, and they're hoping he brings a very very

1150
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: new dimension to what they're trying to do offensively. Yeah.

1151
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: And but on the other side, with cal though I'm

1152
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: looking at they wanted Kellen Moore. Do you think do

1153
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: you think that that would have been a better higher

1154
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: because that that was who they targeted, right, They wanted

1155
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: to to take a coordinator from an NFL team. Stop

1156
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: it like that was unrealistic to begin with anyway, But

1157
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: they did. They did, And I don't think he was

1158
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: a coordinator in Jacksonville. They did. Uh, they did get

1159
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: him from the Jaguars. Um he's working with with Leonard

1160
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: Fournette out there. Um, but I don't know. He he

1161
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: has experience at Penn State. He was out there with

1162
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: Sa Kwan. He obviously does not have that type of weapon. UM.

1163
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: Camari Pleasant was named the starting running back for Washington. Uh.

1164
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,839
Speaker 1: He's somebody that committed to Arizona State to play corner

1165
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: and then they they did not accept his commitment and

1166
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: he ended up a running back out at Washington. I'm

1167
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: genuinely surprised that, you know, he kind of he kind

1168
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: of waited it out and and is the the starting

1169
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: back along with Seawan McGrew. Um. That's the biggest boom

1170
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 1: or bust position for University Washington because if they can't

1171
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: run the ball and they're breaking in a new quarterback

1172
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: trying to pass the ball, then they're really gonna have

1173
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: to rest on their defense this year. And I don't

1174
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: know if it's a championship defense. Yeah, we'll see. And

1175
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: but on the other side, with cal though, I mean

1176
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox has been doing a phenomenal job there. It's

1177
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: his fourth year. They got a new offensive coordinator, which

1178
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: should help dramatically because their offense was always the problem.

1179
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: They got Bill Musgrave, who um he was our officer

1180
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: coordinator for a bit in Jacksonville. I think his system

1181
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: is more suited for college than the NFL, so I

1182
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: anticipate him doing really well. Peter Sermons in his second

1183
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: year as defensive coordinator, Cameron buying him at cornerback. He's

1184
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna be an NFL draft pick. They're running back situation

1185
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: Christopher Brown Jr. And Mark Marcel Dancy from last year,

1186
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: and most importantly, their quarterback. This is a guy who

1187
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: you did not believe in Chase Garber's Chase Garber's I

1188
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: believe in him. He could turn out to be the

1189
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the back twelve in I I firmly

1190
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: believe he's got that type of talent, and that's why

1191
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: I got cow on both sides to this. Who you man.

1192
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: It's just because it's election season doesn't mean you can

1193
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: say something that's not true over the course of a

1194
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: year and have people eventually start believing it. I am

1195
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: not a Chase Garbers doubter. I am not. I'm not

1196
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: as high on him as you are. I don't think like,

1197
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: I don't think he has prospects beyond being a very

1198
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: good quarterback at Cow. There's there's nothing about him to

1199
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: me that's transcendent. He just needs to be what they

1200
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 1: need him to be, a tough, hard nosed leader who

1201
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: who bleeds their colors and and gets this offense going

1202
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: in As long as they can keep him healthy, then

1203
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: this offense has a chance to do a lot of

1204
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: damage this year, especially bringing back Christopher Brown and Marcel

1205
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: Dancy because they both played a big part in the

1206
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: offense last year. You and I have talked a bunch

1207
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: about how Nico Remigio is maybe the most important offensive

1208
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: player in the entire conference because if he doesn't step

1209
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: up and take over as a number one receiver, who

1210
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: is going to on this Do you see anybody on

1211
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: this offense that you look at and say, oh, that's

1212
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: a you know that, that's a thousand yard receiver, ten

1213
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: touchdown guy. No, not at all, Nope, not even not

1214
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: even a little bit, bro, not even a little bit.

1215
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: Um yea. So, so who are you taking in the game, Ralph,

1216
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: don't be APOLOGI cows favored by a point. I think

1217
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: it's I think it's fair to go to cal I

1218
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: think it's fair to I I do because this is

1219
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: gonna sound this is gonna sound lame. But whoever starts

1220
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: at quarterback for Washington, UM has to worry about Brett Johnson.

1221
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: And I've told you that I think that both of

1222
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: those running backs are probably not starting caliber. Um. I

1223
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: don't think either running back at at Washington would be

1224
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: in the top four on against step chart, and I

1225
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: think that's an issue. So, UM, if they're not out

1226
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: there able to move the ball through the air immediately,

1227
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: and we can't say that they will be because we

1228
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: don't even know who they're gonna be playing at quarterback,

1229
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: and they're not able to run the ball, and I

1230
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: really don't think that they'll be able to on on

1231
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: Cow's front seven. And I know, I know they lost

1232
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: the leading tackler, linebacker and everything like that. They'll be fine,

1233
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: trust me. Um. The whole thing is how much does

1234
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: Cameron buying him and Elijah Hicks step up in the

1235
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,440
Speaker 1: defensive backfield to make plays. I think they'll be okay,

1236
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,839
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think that this is I think Cow's

1237
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: defense I would put as maybe tied for the second

1238
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: best defense in the pack twelve. North Um, I mean

1239
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: you can even make an argument that that they could

1240
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: potentially be the best, even though there's some inexperience in

1241
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. And I just think I think their

1242
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,480
Speaker 1: defense is going to be too much for for Washington.

1243
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: I see a low scoring game maybe uh you know,

1244
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: sixteen or something like that in favor of Cal. And

1245
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: you said Cal's at one point favorite. That's got to

1246
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: be new, right, Cal being a favorite going into this game? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1247
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: I definitely um agree with that. Um. The last game

1248
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: up though, we got Washington State at Oregon Can we

1249
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: do we get your pick? Yeah? I picked it along.

1250
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 1: I picked it like ten minutes ago twice. Cow cow Sorry,

1251
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: Washington State at Oregon State. Oregon State is favored by

1252
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: a point and a half. And they named uh Jeba

1253
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback for Oregon State. And the game's

1254
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: in Corvall. It's no fans who you I can win whof? Um,

1255
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: these are two very good coaches. As far as the

1256
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: offensive game planning, I think this game, hopefully this game

1257
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: is is explosive. Um. Your boy at running back for

1258
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: Washington State, do you, I mean, do you think I

1259
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: think he he can put together a little run. Maybe

1260
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: at at if not packed to All Player of the Year,

1261
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: you think maybe at the first team at at Washington State. Yeah,

1262
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: oh oh oh oh, the the the white kid um

1263
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: oh lord, why can't I remember his name right? The

1264
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: one that was all fired up about about the higher

1265
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: and the one that you hyped last year saying Mike

1266
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: Leach needs to get him the ball more. Oh? Max

1267
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Max BORGI yeah, I like Max Borgan. Do I think

1268
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: he is Christian McCaffrey light, Do not say? Do not

1269
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: hear me saying that he is like Christian McCaffrey. I

1270
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: said Christian McCaffrey light, l I e not. Might as

1271
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: well just throw Rex Burkehead in there, a little bit

1272
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: of Danny Woodhead. I'm trying to give a correct any

1273
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: other any other white multi Would you want to compare

1274
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: and contrast him with Seawan McGrew, No, dude, I think

1275
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: that that's a fair comparisons. He's good out in the backfield.

1276
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: He's good if you hand him the ball. He's a

1277
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: utility player like he is Okay, okay, he he's scrappy. No,

1278
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: he's James White. He's James White. For the page, That's

1279
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: who is a black guy too. All right, that makes

1280
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: you feel better, But still the last name though I

1281
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: had to get it in some kind of way, But

1282
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: I think that's that's gonna be the best player on

1283
01:19:50,479 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: the field in this game. I mean will Yes, absolutely absolutely,

1284
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: he ran the ball in Hawaii. He was more of

1285
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: a running shoot than a than than a than a

1286
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: true spread. I think touches is something that you should

1287
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: be your baseline expectation for. For Max Borgi and I

1288
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: don't really see. I think that if Washington State comes

1289
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: in and they really try to set the tone, run

1290
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: the ball and they don't have to pass all that much,

1291
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: you Negate, hamilcar Raschid and you that that's really the

1292
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: only I mean outside of the the the cornerback tandem

1293
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: from Last Chance You that's that's really uh the only

1294
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: known name on this Oregon State defense. I mean they

1295
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:51,919
Speaker 1: Oregon State has a defensive end that's not terrible, but this,

1296
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: this entire Oregon State defense is gonna it's gonna be

1297
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: all heart defense. It really is. It's they're gonna completely

1298
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: rely on making plays hopefully bending but not breaking um

1299
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to hope that their offense

1300
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: can keep pace and I think Rollovitch can come in

1301
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: feed Max BORGI um, and I I think Washington State

1302
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: can get this game one. I like Washington Say, who

1303
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: who'd you say was a favorite? Organ State is favored

1304
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: by point and a half. Yeah, I don't. I don't

1305
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: like that. I think that, I mean, shout out to

1306
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: five ft five Champ Fleming starting at the like X

1307
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: receiver out there for for Oregon State, I think that

1308
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: they're going to have to really primarily rely on their

1309
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: running game as well. They've got a good center, the

1310
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: University of Arizona transfer Nathan Eldridge. Um that they've they've

1311
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: got a good running game. I think Jeb can make

1312
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: some tough throws, but I don't think he's gonna be

1313
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: like Jake Luten. Shout out to Jake Luton, who is

1314
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: starting for the Jacksonville Jaguars this week, by the way,

1315
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: in Jakesonville. But um, and how dare you? How dare

1316
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: you talk about Oregon's height at wide receiver. When Oregon

1317
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: State is starting their Champ Fleming at five five, the

1318
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: guy behind him is five nine, the guy behind him

1319
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 1: is five eleven, and then behind Colby five eleven, Colby

1320
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: Taylor is five eight guy. Come on, man, you know

1321
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 1: I like Champ Flemings at five pounds. It is absolutely

1322
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: wild that he's a starting wide receiver in the Pac twelve. Um,

1323
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of my guy Colby Taylor, who

1324
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: is a starting at at wide receiver out there. He's

1325
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: a really really good possession guy. Um and again keep

1326
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: mentioning it. Jermar Jefferson and the running game could really

1327
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: be what fuels things for for Oregon State this year.

1328
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: But I think it is absolutely terrifying that Champ Flemings

1329
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: is holding four star tie John Lindsay out from being

1330
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: a starter uh in this offense? Like ah that that

1331
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: that really worries me. Oh, and the guy was looking

1332
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: forward on their defense Isaacogens he's pretty good. Um. But

1333
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, this is gonna be um. Oh, I don't know.

1334
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a rough year for for Oregon State.

1335
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: Lucky for them, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. I think

1336
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: that I believe in Nick Rolovich as a as a

1337
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: head coach. I think that he will establish the run.

1338
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: I think Max Borgi um and that offensive line will

1339
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: set the tone. And I think Washington State's got some

1340
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: decent players left over. Um. In the defense. I would

1341
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: take Washington States defense over this Oregon State defense, even

1342
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: though I think the top level talent with hamilcar Rochete. Oh,

1343
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: I was waiting on you to miss. I thought you

1344
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: were gonna miss your miss, your adopted son. You always

1345
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: act like it's a surprise, like I bring him up,

1346
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: Like he didn't lead the country and tackles for loss.

1347
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: Is that not a good thing? It's not like good status.

1348
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: He he is, he's a he's a decent player. Would

1349
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: he so what? You would he start at Oregon? You

1350
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: are you serious? I'm serious? He would not start an

1351
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: outside linebacker for Oregon if he bro if he I mean,

1352
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: who who would he start over? Masafuna? I don't know,

1353
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: it's your questionname actually actually just the country and tackles

1354
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: for loss. Okay, I'm gonna give him. Okay he can,

1355
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: he can start over Drew Mathis who who has no

1356
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: start yet? Okay, So yes, he would start on Oregon.

1357
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm picking Washington State in this game. And

1358
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: to uh, I mean should I Obviously they're gonna cover

1359
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: because they're gonna win. So you turned on your people? Wow,

1360
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: I did not, I did not. I did not turned

1361
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: on your family off? Wow, you know my family That

1362
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Oregon State has like four players I believe in and

1363
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: the rest I'm not sure if they would win the

1364
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: Mountain West. All right, well what okay, take I'm gonna

1365
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three players. I'm gonna give you

1366
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: three names to take off of this Oregon State team.

1367
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Three names. Okay, if you took their center Nathan Eldridge,

1368
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: who has lots of experiences as a starter, and you

1369
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: took let's go with Jermar Jefferson and hamilcar Set. Just

1370
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: those three players office Oregon State roster. Do they win

1371
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: the Mountain West versus Boise State? No? Absolutely not. Sorry,

1372
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: So I canna said, I turned my back and this

1373
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: isn't even a team that would win the Mountain I

1374
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: think Washington State would win the Mountain West. I don't

1375
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 1: know about right. You know a lot more about Rolovich

1376
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: and believe in him a lot more than I do.

1377
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm still in the proved stage, buddy, I'm still in

1378
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: the proved stage with even though you you saw him

1379
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: beat Oregon State last year, you saw him beat you

1380
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: with a last year. Gotta like it's different when you

1381
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: gotta do it and you gotta show up every single week.

1382
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so I'm taking the Coogs to beat the

1383
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: Beeves as well, even though the Beaves are favored by

1384
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: a point and a half. Uh. The last thing that

1385
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: we got up today, Ralph is just a sheer number

1386
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: of games because some teams are gonna play different amounts

1387
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: of games in different conferences. Wisconsin is looking super shaky

1388
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: right now. They may miss their second straight week, which

1389
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: means that they will just miss a game period, they

1390
01:26:55,160 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: will have one less game played. So who how many

1391
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: games do you think? How many teams do you think

1392
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: play all seven of their games their six plus one?

1393
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: And which teams do you think are most likely to

1394
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: miss a game. I'm going to take the Pack twelve

1395
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: Conference commissioners word for it for the first time in

1396
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: my life and believe that the partnership with kui Il

1397
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: allows them the ability to isolate players who test positive

1398
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 1: contact trace rapid test and play theseus. Why have the

1399
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: partnership if we don't at least have policies in place

1400
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: that would cause you to not need to shut the

1401
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: entire team down for ten days. The way that wis

1402
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: content died like this has to be you had to

1403
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: have had that press conference and and pushed Quadell even

1404
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: though they already had partnerships with other school you had.

1405
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: It had to have been for a reason. What reason,

1406
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: if other than to make sure that if they actually

1407
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: embarked on a season, that the games could be played.

1408
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: I am going to say that, even though the numbers

1409
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: are absolutely horrifying, I think that most of these Pack

1410
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: twelve schools will do a really good job and everyone

1411
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: will get to play seven games. We might see some

1412
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: major major players have to sit out. We also might

1413
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: see some major major players not be able to get

1414
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: their footing and how weird this season is and bail

1415
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: on the team right after the gameplay starts, just like

1416
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: half of the watch the Mississippi State team has left

1417
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: on Mike Leach. I think that that's a possibility as well. Um,

1418
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: but I think everybody gets their games play. I have

1419
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: to be I would I I'm not planning for failure,

1420
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I see that it's happened to Paler like

1421
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: six different times. I saw what happened with with with

1422
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: with Wisconsin. I know that other teams have have had

1423
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: this issue, but I am going to for the first

1424
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: time in a long time, I'm gonna trust Larry Scott

1425
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that these team teams are prepared to

1426
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: get this season in the books, because if not, the

1427
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: excuse to keep him on board went from zero too

1428
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: gross negligence and hopefully criminal prosecutions. Dude. Yeah, So I

1429
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't believe Larry Scott, but I do believe that

1430
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,440
Speaker 1: these teams are going to be as vigilant as possible.

1431
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna have certain teams do everything

1432
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: that they possibly can to play like even if even

1433
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: if you know Oregon has guys out, they're gonna fight

1434
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: tooth and nail to play right, even if they have

1435
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: to send a team out there shorthanded, because they can

1436
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: beat some teams short shorthanded. Same thing with USC, particularly

1437
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: as the season goes on. So they're gonna try to

1438
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: get as many games in as possible. But I do

1439
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: think the conference is gonna be flexible enough that if

1440
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: you have two cancelations that they may pair those teams

1441
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: up so there, so there's definitely other options as well

1442
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: to get all the games. And so I think that

1443
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: all but two teams play all seven games. I don't

1444
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: know which teams those will those will be, but if

1445
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: we get ten out of twelve playing seven games, I'll

1446
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: be happy, all right. So who is winning the North

1447
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: and who is winning the South? Ducks went in the North,

1448
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: USC's win in the South. They play Week seven Ducks.

1449
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: When Ducks go to the College Football Playoff undefeated seven

1450
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 1: and oh okay, I am I'm actually picking a s

1451
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: U to run the table. Are you just tired of

1452
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: a s U fans saying that you say bad things

1453
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: about them? Um? I mean the answer is yes, But

1454
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: I'm not just I think that the possibility exists for

1455
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,919
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't necessarily trust her medwords

1456
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: to not keep every game so close that they don't

1457
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: that they don't lose one. But I also I'm just

1458
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: a really big believer in the defensive backfield, George, I

1459
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: really am. I think that it is not only with

1460
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: the defections from Oregon the most talented, I think it's

1461
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: also currently the deepest. And I think that also having

1462
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: the experience that they have at linebacker. Uh, this defense,

1463
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: it's everything's predicated on whether or not Jade Daniels takes

1464
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: the field because don't really have much backing him up.

1465
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: They will walk on in in Trenton bord Gate. And

1466
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: so you know, if if Jane Daniels is on the

1467
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: field for every single one of these games, they keep

1468
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: him healthy, they keep him COVID free. Uh that I

1469
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't see a reason why this defense wouldn't give

1470
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: him the ability to get wins. So, so who wins

1471
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the North I'm I'm leaning toward Oregon, and then who

1472
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: wins between Oregon Arizona State. I think I just run

1473
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: back last year's result, Arizona State winning. Yeah, and that,

1474
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: my friend, ends our podcast today. You have lost it.

1475
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: You have you have gone off the deep end. And

1476
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: so what you're saying is it's impossible for Arizona State

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Speaker 1: to do the exact thing that they just got done doing. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: a broke clock is right. Twice a day. Last year

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Speaker 1: the clock was broken and that was a wake up

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Speaker 1: call for Oregon. They needed a new officsive coordinator. They

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Speaker 1: needed and Joe Joe moorehead is going to be the differentiator.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the talent level is going up on the

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Speaker 1: team everything. I think they're unstoppable. Um No, I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: and no, people are gonna call me a homer, but

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Speaker 1: I'm being serious. You know this podcast has done absolutely

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Speaker 1: nothing for our reputation of being an Oregon ariz on

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Speaker 1: a state podcast. In fact, I'm pretty sure we hurt

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Speaker 1: ourselves today. Hopefully people stop listening. With like twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: left in the show, well, make sure that you guys

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Speaker 1: leave a five not knowing Max Borgi's name, so we

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Speaker 1: just lost Pullman. Yeah yeah, this, we're done. We'll make

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Speaker 1: sure that you guys leave a five star podcast writing

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcast. Make sure you share with

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Speaker 1: a friend. Enjoy the games this weekend, and we will

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Speaker 1: be back every week. Alright, peace out, catch you guys

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Speaker 1: later