1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: What does that translate to, ladies and gentlemen. That translates 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: to a record of thirty four and one hundred and 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Thirty four in one hundred and twenty eight. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: That's a difficult thing to do in Major League Baseball. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: It's difficult to lose that many games. Welcome everyone to 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: the Monday edition of Fair Territory, and my goodness, do 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about on this particular Monday. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: We've got a star player who does not want to 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: change positions, We've got a managerial firing the second of 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: the year, and we have two eight game winning streaks 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: by teams that aren't necessarily expected to be hot at 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: any point this season, well maybe one of them. So 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: let's start with the biggest issue of the day, the 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Raphael Devers conundrum with the Boston Red Sox. I wrote 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: about it this morning and you can see my opinion. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: It's basically that the Red Sox should keep Devers at 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: DH figure out first base in some other fashion. And 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things going on here, but 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I want to start with two reasons that to me, 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: make it difficult for him to play first base, a 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: position he has never played. Professionally and as far as 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: I know as an amateur as well. Now, Raphaeld Devers 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: of course made a team first move earlier this season, 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: or actually in spring training. He agreed to become the 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: DH after the Red Sox signed Alex Bregman. That move, 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, was entirely appropriate. Bregman a much better 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: defensive third baseman than Ralphaeld Devers, not even close. Devers. 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: At that point, with Tristan Cassis healthy, he belonged in 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: that roster. He fit that roster as a DH. This 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: is different, and with Cassis now out for the season, 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: with that ruptured left Patel attendant, the Red Sox do 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: have a problem. They do need a first baseman. They've 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: got Masataka Yoshida coming back at some point as a DH. 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: So the natural chess piece move if you're just playing 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: tisserie baseball is, hey, let's have ralphae Old Devers play 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: first base. Well, not so easy. For one thing, that 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: is a difficult position to master. A lot of fans, 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand that there is so 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: much involved with playing first base. The Red Sox manager 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Alex Korr has talked about it. It's not simply catching 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: throws from the infield. There's positioning, there's holding runners, there's relays, 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: there's cutoff there bunt plays, all kinds of things going on. 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: And when you've never played the position before, and when 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: you'd have to adjust to it in the middle of 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: the season, it's really difficult to do. You'd be risking injury, 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: you'd be risking embarrassment. And in Deavor's case, remember he 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: started the season slowly transitioning to the DHROL and there 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: might have been other things involved there too. He didn't 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: have much of a spring, et cetera. But to ask 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: him to do that in the middle of the season, 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: play first base when he's never done it before, you're 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: risking again offensive regression as he tries to adjust mentally 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: physically to that new position. It's not his fault that 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: they don't have depth at first base, not his fault 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: that they don't have a place for Yoshida. These are 56 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: things that are being thrust onto him, basically assigned to him, 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: even though he has nothing to do with all that. Now, 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: a lot of fans understandably say, hey, wait, a second 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: three hundred plus million dollar contract, he should play wherever 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the team wants. I got it. I understand that thinking, 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: and there's some logic to it, right, But at the 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: same time, to me, this is just too much. And 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: that is why, in my opinion, what the Red Sox 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: should do is just let Devers DH the rest of 65 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: the season and somehow find a first baseman, either internally, 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: which is unlikely romy Gonzalez being hurt doesn't help you 67 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: go outside, you find someone in another organization, maybe a 68 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Garret Cooper or Dominic Smith, guys they brought in last year. 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you go sign Anthony Rizzo, take a chance there. 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the answer is. There are no 71 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: easy answers, but to ask your star player to do 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: this in the middle of a season, to me, it 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: just isn't the right way to go. And one more 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: thing on this. If the Red Sox had any vision 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: at all, or had greater vision in spring training, they 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't have told Devers put away your glove, don't worry 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: about anything but dhing this year. They would have had 78 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: him take grounders a third, which I think he did 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: pretty late in the spring, and they would have begun 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: the acclamation process to first, knowing they had such little 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: depth there. Devers wouldn't have had to have taken a 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: crash course in learning the position. He simply would have 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: had to kind of just get into the flow of 84 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: things there, take time to just see what it's like 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: playing first base, take the initial steps. The Red Sox 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: didn't do that. They told him to put away his glove. 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: They told him to put away his glove, most likely 88 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: because they wanted him simply to focus on learning a 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: new routine as a DH something that also is not 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: that easy to So we still do not have resolution here. 91 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: We do not know if Ralfield Devers is ultimately going 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: to accept playing first base, or if at some point 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the Red Sox just dropped this and the other element here. 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll mention, because we can talk 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: whole day about this, is the seeming disconnect between the manager, 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Alex Cora and the chief baseball officer, Craig Breslow. Cora 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: was not the one who asked Devers to play first. 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm not sure the reason for that. Maybe Cora 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: wasn't down with it. He has been pretty vocal about 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: not wanting to move Devs to first. Maybe he doesn't 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: want Devers in the field at all. Maybe he is 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: at a point where hey, I asked Devers to be 103 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: the DH I kind of exhausted my currency there. I 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: don't want to go to that well again. I don't know, 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: but there are layers to this. There are all kinds 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: of things going on. I respect fans opinions who say, hey, 107 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: he should be doing whatever the team wants. What I'm 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: telling you is it's just not that easy. More on 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: as the Red Sox Turn, Robbie Hyde host Monster Territory. 110 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: Tune in for live post games on YouTube and wherever 111 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Subscribe, share, and rate five stars 112 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to the entire Foul Territory network. We'll be back after 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: a quick word from our friends at Foul Territory. 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: This is a straightforward show, so I'm going to be 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: very straightforward with everyone about PXG. 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On Sunday, we got news that we could 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: have gotten quite some time ago, at least sometime earlier 137 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: this season, and that is news of Bud Black's firing. 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: And I want to start off by saying that Bud Black, 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: for nine years, was the manager of the Colorado Rockies. 140 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Bud Black is the kind of person you want in baseball. 141 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: He's actually the kind of person you want managing your team. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: But clearly it was not working. Finally, on Sunday, we 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: got an answer to a question that has long troubled 144 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: me that I've thought about for I don't know, quite 145 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: some time. The question is what will it take for 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies to awaken from their slumber, to snap 147 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: out of it, to do something that reflects their actual 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: performance on the field with the way they run the team. Well, 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: we got our answer at six and thirty three. They 150 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: let Bud Black manage one more game. He wins the game. 151 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: They finished well, he finishes seven and thirty three, But 152 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: they finally made the decision to fire Bud Black at 153 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: six and thirty three. That's what it took. Six and 154 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: thirty three. Now, the Colorado Rockies, I've said this before, 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: they seem to operate in a parallel universe to the 156 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: rest of Baseball twenty nine. Other teams are kind of 157 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: doing it one way. The Rockies are off in Denver 158 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: doing it their way, and their way isn't working. Now, 159 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't mind teams that are different. When you have 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: a team like the Tampa Bay Rays, innovative, kind of exciting, 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: always willing to take risks and succeeding with their plans, 162 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that's fine. That's what you want. You want an outlier 163 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: along those lines, a successful outlier. The Rockies are this 164 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: team that draws quite well at Corusfield, and they draw 165 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: so well at Corusfield that their owner, Dick Montfort, says, Hey, 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: that's my problem. I'm doing well. I've got people come 167 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: into the park. I don't have to worry about the product. 168 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything different. I can be insular. 169 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I can operate my team however I Dawn please, and 170 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: that's what he does now. Bud Black, like Derek Shelton 171 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, clearly is not the problem here. They did. 172 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: The Rockies need a new voice. In my opinion, it 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: was time. This was Bud Black's ninth year and things 174 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: were going horribly, of course, as their record shows, and 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: that series against San Diego when they were just rocked, 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: that was to me a tipping point for a team 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: that seemingly has a really hard time getting to a 178 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: tipping point. Doing something different makes sense. At the same time, 179 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: it does not excuse the deficiencies of the way the 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: team has been constructed by general manager Bill Schmidt and 181 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: most of all, and it sounds like a broken record. 182 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about this with the Pirates just last week. 183 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: It does not excuse the deficiencies of the owner Dick Monford. 184 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: At the same time, Bud Black distinguished baseball man, a 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of great things in the game. He's someone who 186 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: is a great representative of that franchise. Yeah, okay, you 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: want to make a change there, that's fine. Warren Schaeffer 188 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: is someone who has managed and coached for about a 189 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: decade in their minor leagues before becoming their third base coach. 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: He's the right guy for a younger team. I get it, 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: Bud Black. If you want to fire him, that's fine. 192 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: But my gosh, you've got to fix the team in 193 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: a much bigger sense, and I don't know if Dick 194 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Monfrey cares to do that. So the Rockies will continue 195 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: spinning their wheels, continue operating in their parallel universe, and 196 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: it's not going to change with a simple change in managers. Finally, 197 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: two teams that certainly started the season off with questions, 198 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: one team that was actually struggling early in the season, 199 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: the other a team that I thought should have taken 200 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: some different steps in the offseason, and now both of 201 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: these clubs have eight game winning streaks. I'm talking about 202 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins and the Saint Louis Cardinals. The Twins 203 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: are a club that started season seven and fifteen. Seven 204 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: and fifteen, I wrote a column on potential managerial firings 205 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: and I actually had Rockleball Deli at the top of 206 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: the list. They were going that badly. They seemed, after 207 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: a poor second half last year or a poor last 208 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: two months, to be stuck in this malaise. Well they 209 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: have finally snapped out of it. And here's a team 210 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: that is now fifteen and six at home. They've won 211 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: thirteen of their last fourteen at home. Byron Buxton. Yeah, 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: he leads the majors in strikeouts, but he's doing some 213 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: big things top twenty in f war. But really the 214 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: story here at a time when Correa and Royce Lewis 215 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: have done essentially very little. Lewis has been heard for 216 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: most of the year, Korea contributing very little offensively at 217 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: a time when all that is happening, they are being 218 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: carried by their rotation. And I want to show you 219 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: something here because it's quite telling. The Twins rotation, after 220 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: a very rocky first week of the season, has really 221 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: come on. Check this out. First six games rotation six 222 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: point nine zero ERA, last thirty one games two point 223 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: thirty nine ERA. That is a pretty dramatic improvement, and 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: it's got the Twins at a point now where they 225 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: are in a better position in the AL Central, a 226 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: division in which the Detroit Tigers are not exactly running away, 227 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: but playing at an extremely high level and perhaps taking 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: something of a commanding position. This early in the season, 229 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the Tigers are twenty six and fifteen, and the Twins 230 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: still have a ways to go to kind of get 231 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: really back in the thick of this thing, but they've 232 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: taken some big steps. They're healthy now, they're running pretty well. 233 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: And the other team I want to talk about. The 234 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: other team with an eight game winning streak is a 235 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: team that I was critical of in spring training for 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: not taking a definitive position. I wrote that the Saint 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals were caught in the middle. They were not rebuilding, 238 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: they didn't want to use that word, and they were 239 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: not going for it because they did very little this 240 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: offseason and in this the last last year of John 241 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Mozaylock's run as president of Baseball Operations, it seemed like 242 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: they were content to kind of try but not fully 243 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: go there. Well, here are the Cardinals eight straight wins. 244 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: They are right in the thick of the NL central race. 245 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: In fact, they are really close to the Cubs right now. 246 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: They're in a decent position considering where we all thought 247 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: they would be. And the question becomes, Okay, you didn't 248 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: trade Ryan Helsley and Eric Fetti, your potential free agents 249 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: in the offseason. You didn't trade Noan Rnado, though you 250 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: did try. What are you going to do with the deadline. 251 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: We're not there yet, obviously, we've got almost three months 252 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: until the deadline. We've got to see how the Cardinals play. 253 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: But they've got some good things happening now. Some of 254 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: the younger players are not performing. I'm thinking of Nolan 255 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Gorman and Jordan Walker in particular, but some of their 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: other players are performing at surprising levels, or at least 257 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: levels where you expected that they might be. I'm talking 258 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: about Brendan Donovan, who was emerged as a really good player, 259 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Victor Scott, the second in center field, fun got to watch, 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: Hey Wilson Contreras also having a good year. Their rotation 261 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: third in the majors in innings. Their offense has proven 262 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: to be kind of a versatile group, the third in 263 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the majors in on base percentage. So some good things 264 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: happening with the Cardinals. Again, the question will come in 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: July where do they go with this, because they're going 266 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: to have some pieces that will be attractive, same pieces 267 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: that were attractive in the offseason, Hellsley and Fetti, and 268 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: then you have the Ornado question all over again. At 269 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: the same time, if they're close, I expect John Mozelak, 270 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: in his final year as head of Baseball Operations, to 271 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: make some moves to enhance the team to perhaps try 272 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They're not accelerating the reset as 273 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: quickly as they should be, but they are competing and 274 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: good for the Cardinals for doing that. Cardinal Territory keeps 275 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: you informed on the latest with the Birds on the 276 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: bat My colleague at the Athletic Katie Wu and Bernie 277 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Michless host multiple episodes each week on YouTube and wherever 278 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Subscribe, share, and rate five stars 279 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: to the entire Foul Territory network. 280 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: Well Well, well, time out. 281 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: For the Inside Dish, the part of the show where 282 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I talk about maybe a story I've written, maybe a 283 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: trend in the game, maybe some hot thing going on 284 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: in the sport, or maybe a major league debut as 285 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: You guys know, if you've been watching me over the 286 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: years listening to me, I love a major league debut. 287 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: I love it like few other things in the sport. 288 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful, pure moment when a player's dream 289 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: comes true, and often his family flies in for the 290 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: moment to celebrate with him, regardless of how it goes. 291 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: And that's what we had Saturday on our broadcast of 292 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: Cubs Mets from City Field. We had Caate Horton, the 293 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Cub's top pitching prospect, making his debut. Not as a starter. 294 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: The Cubs used in open and Brad Keller, but then 295 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: they brought in Horton and we kind of sprang into action. 296 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Now for a debut, what we'd like to do often 297 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: is interview parents as long as it goes well. If 298 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: the debut doesn't go well, it's not going to be 299 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: a good thing. But over the years, when I've done 300 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: these things for Fox, going back to Daniel Nava's Grand 301 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Slam for the Boston Red Sox, to Cole Tucker's home 302 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: run in his debut for the Pirates same day Brian 303 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Reynolds made his debut, and even Christian Scott last year 304 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: when he pitched for the Mets in his first major 305 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: league start. The parents often give you great insight into 306 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: the player's journey, into what they went through, their sacrifices. 307 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: It's just a really sweet kind of thing to cover. 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: That's where we were on Saturday. If Kate Horton pitched well, 309 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: our plan was try to interview the parents in the 310 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: stands at City Field, and even then beyond that, we thought, well, 311 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: maybe Kate Horton would be up for an in game 312 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: interview if the Cubs were willing to do that, and 313 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: if he was willing to do that. A lot of 314 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: teams in the regular season we don't ask for in 315 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: the moment, and they're not too thrilled within the moment. 316 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about those interviews that take place during the 317 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: game in the dugout. A lot of fans don't like them. 318 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: We still do them, and we do them because they 319 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: often give a different angle. They're kind of good television 320 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: a lot of times anyway. So that was the idea, 321 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: interview the parents if he pitches well, and then interview 322 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Kate Horton if he's willing, and the Cubs were willing, 323 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: which they were. So he did pitch well. He ended 324 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: up pitching four innings. The first two went really well. 325 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: In the third, he gave up a three run homer 326 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to Brett Batty, and as I discussed with my producer 327 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: between innings how to proceed, we thought, okay, we can 328 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: still interview the parents. The Cubs still had the lead. 329 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: They were leading four to three, and it looked like 330 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: at that point Kate Horton might be out of the game. 331 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: So I ventured up to where the parents were sitting, 332 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Mike and Carrie Horton, and I asked them if it 333 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: would be okay if I talked to them as this 334 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: game proceeded. Now, at that point, again, it was not 335 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: clear whether Kate Horton was coming back out for a 336 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: fourth inning. As it turned out he did. Mike and 337 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Carry agreed to the interview. Did that as he was pitching, 338 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: and the way the game evolved, Francisco Lindor hit a 339 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: one out single. We're back at the top of the 340 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: Mets order, and oh my goodness, the interview ends pretty 341 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: much as Juan Soto is coming to the plate to 342 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: face Kate Horton. Kate Horton making his major league debut 343 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: with a runner on in a one run game, and 344 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there between Mike and Carrie Horton, and I'm thinking, 345 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what is going through their minds. Here. 346 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: Their son is pitching for the first time in a 347 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: major league stadium, and he's facing the Mets seven hundred 348 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: and sixty five million dollar man in a big situation, 349 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, my goodness, I better just keep my 350 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: mouth shut. It was a really uncomfortable moment because I 351 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of feared that the worst was going to happen 352 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: to Kate Horton. As it turned out, he threw his 353 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: only change up of the game to strike out Juan Soto. 354 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: It was a happy ending, and the Hortons, who had 355 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: come from Norman, Oklahoma, and other relatives who had come 356 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: from as far away as Montana, they were all pretty 357 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: much overid at the way this thing played out. They 358 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: were about I would say fifteen people, including Caid's wife, Blair, 359 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: who were there. And again, the thrill of a major 360 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: league debut is something that can never be repeated for 361 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: a player. There's only one, and hopefully it goes successfully, 362 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: and you'll notice even sometimes when it does not, a 363 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: player will tell you and say after a game it 364 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: was just such an exciting moment for me. It was 365 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: just such a thrill and man, I'll remember it forever 366 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: even when it doesn't go well. This one did go well. 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Kate Horton is a guy that if the Cubs keep 368 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: going here and contending, they're probably going to need We've 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: seen their pitching injuries justin steal out for the season. 370 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Showed it in Managa currently out with a hamstring, Javier 371 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: assad who knows when he's coming back. They're gonna need help. 372 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Kate Horton can be that help and Saturday, well, that 373 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: was the first step in his major league career and 374 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: the first step two maybe becoming a key piece for 375 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs this season. 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But the answer is it's a lot easier 405 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: to fire a manager in the middle of the season 406 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: and elevate a bench coach or someone else to take 407 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: over the team than it is to fire a general manager. 408 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: The general manager is effectively the head of baseball operations, 409 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: and to disrupt your organization like that in the middle 410 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: of a season. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It 411 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: does happen from time to time, but that's a move 412 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: that is a lot easier to make in the off season. Now, 413 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: the other part of this is that with the change 414 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: from Derek Shelton to Don Kelly, the Pirates essentially are 415 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: giving Ben Sherrington one last shot to turn this thing around. 416 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying for certain he would be fired 417 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: at the end of the season if they do not 418 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: turn it around. But this is Ben Sherrington's six straight 419 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: year or six year as head of baseball operations, and 420 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: it hasn't gone very well. So clearly, right now he 421 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: is the one under more scrutiny. Clearly he should be 422 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: under scrutiny for the teams that he has put together, 423 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: which have not been at the same level as other 424 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: small market, more successful clubs Milwaukee, Tampa Bay, Cleveland. I 425 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: would expect that if there is not market improvement by 426 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: the end of the season, that the Pirates are going 427 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: to make a difficult decision on Ben Sherrington as well. 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: Next question, this one comes from Patrick h who asks 429 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: could the Rockies break the White Sox record? Patrick, you 430 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: ask a very good question, because right now the Rockies 431 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: are on pace to do just what you said, break 432 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: the White Sox record for losses in a season. I 433 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: want to show you exactly what I'm talking about. After 434 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: forty games, the White Sox were twelve and twenty eight 435 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: last season. After forty games, the Rockies are are seven 436 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: and thirty three. What does that translate to ladies and gentlemen. 437 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: That translates to a record of thirty four and one 438 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight. Thirty four and one hundred and 439 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's a difficult thing to do in Major 440 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: League Baseball. It's difficult to lose that many games. You're 441 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna run into some wins one way or the other. 442 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: But we said that about the White Sox last year 443 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: they finished forty one in one hundred and twenty one. 444 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: I would say that the Rockies stand the decent chance 445 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: of breaking that record. Yes, and I can't believe we 446 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: would have this happen potentially two years in a row 447 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: in the sport. Not a great look, all right? Final question, 448 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: Let's get to this one, and it comes from Douglas Hoey, 449 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: who asks, do the Mets go after a Luise Robert 450 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: this season or look for someone amongst a Kunya Clifford 451 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Jet to take over in center field. I would say 452 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: the latter, or perhaps they look for a lesser player 453 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: or a less expensive player than Luise Robert. Luise Robert 454 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Junior is not a great player right now, one eighty 455 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: six batting average, six nineteen ops. Yes, he leads the 456 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: majors with fifteen stolen bases. He's healthy, that's good. Also 457 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: has been caught stealing five times. But he's not a 458 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: terribly productive guy. And for the money, he's making fifteen 459 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: million this season, with twenty million dollar club options each 460 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: of the next two seasons. Why would the Mets take 461 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: that step when considering their luxury tax position. They're over 462 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the highest threshold. They'll be paying one hundred and ten 463 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: percent on the dollar. It makes no sense, folks. Now, 464 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: if the White Sox pick up most of the salary, okay, 465 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: maybe you look at it, but at that point, he's 466 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: still not a good enough player to justify making a 467 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: move trading prospects for so I know there was some talk. 468 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale wrote over the weekend that the Mets have 469 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: checked in on Luise Robert Jr. Yeah, the Mets are 470 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: gonna check in. All the teams are gonna check in. 471 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna have this going on until the deadline. But 472 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: do I expect Luise Robert Junior, barring a complete turnaround 473 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: in his game, to be a New York Met by 474 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: August first? No, I do not expect that to happen. 475 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: James Ciano and Diraffneckmark host Messed Up. Their newest episode 476 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: is out now, Subscribe, review and share Mets Up and 477 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: each show in the Foul Territory Network. 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