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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to a summer school edition.

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Speaker 1: I just coined that phrase the last time when I

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Speaker 1: totally screwed up the take of the Falcons Final Whizzle

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Speaker 1: podcast recorded in the Ticketmaster studios. I'm Scott Barreto's Tory mclaney.

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Speaker 1: I will let some people behind the curtain and say

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Speaker 1: that this I've had two iced tea's now and this

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Speaker 1: is my This is our third podcast in a row.

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Speaker 1: It may be a little loopy just throwing it out

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Speaker 1: there right now.

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Speaker 2: But you know it's all good because we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about the defense.

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Speaker 1: That's right and what we're going to do the same

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Speaker 1: format that we did with the offense, where we go

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Speaker 1: over three things that we learn and we feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: and confident saying about this defense, and then afterward we're

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Speaker 1: going to address three questions that we need answered over

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Speaker 1: the summer and the fall about this particular unit. Go

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Speaker 1: back and watch the offense one. It was fun. I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. Now let's get into this defense toy,

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Speaker 1: which looks a little different than it has before. It

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Speaker 1: comes with some different expectations too, so and again, just

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Speaker 1: like with the offensive one, you phrased it so perfectly

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Speaker 1: about the thing that we know about this defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing we know about this defense is that

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Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett finally finally has some help. And I think

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Speaker 3: if you're Grady Jarrett, you are as excited to go

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Speaker 3: into this year as any year in the last few years,

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Speaker 3: if you're being honest. And that's nothing against the guys

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Speaker 3: that were on this team before, nothing at all against them,

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Speaker 3: but the caliber a player that the Falcons specifically went

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Speaker 3: along with Grady Jear. I mean, I just think if

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Speaker 3: you're Grady Jarted, you're just so excited. And we've talked

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Speaker 3: to him throughout OTA's and Minnie camp all all that

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Speaker 3: You talk to him about Klayis Campbell and the fact

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Speaker 3: that Klayis Campbell is a guy that chose to come

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta. That means something for Grady Jarrett and what

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Speaker 3: he's done here and what he wants to continue to

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Speaker 3: do here. But dupre came in David on Yamada, and

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Speaker 3: that was something that really stood out. When Arthur Smith's

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Speaker 3: talking about this defensive front and he's talking about how

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Speaker 3: well Grady Jarrett and David On Yamada already without the

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Speaker 3: pads on, without like going one hundred and ten percent,

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Speaker 3: how well those two guys work together because of their

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Speaker 3: style of play. And then you throw in Ryan Nilsen,

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Speaker 3: who is a defensive front guy through and through, and

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Speaker 3: I just think that this position that Grady Jarrett is in,

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Speaker 3: and I know that we talked about this when we

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Speaker 3: did a podcast with John Abraham not too long ago.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about this clip when the Falcons played to

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Speaker 3: Droit a couple of years ago where Grady is triple

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Speaker 3: teamed and he goes, man, y'all don't have to block

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Speaker 3: anybody else. You cannot do that now in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: you just can't because you're leaving David On Yamada unblocked,

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Speaker 3: Bud Dupree, Clay As Campbell, Lorenzo Carter.

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Speaker 2: I mean that to me, I think is just so.

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Speaker 3: It's just such a breath of fresh air that we have.

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Speaker 1: Each Jarrett, Yeah, yeah, I think so. And they can

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Speaker 1: come in waves, which is what you want from a

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Speaker 1: to Kwan, Graham is back from injury. You know, Timmy

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Speaker 1: Horne is growing within it. You know Eddie Goldman is

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Speaker 1: to bring in waves. I think that's also important. You

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Speaker 1: you're an offensive line coach, you don't have to pick

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Speaker 1: your poison on who to double team too, which means

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Speaker 1: maybe a center or however they scheme it up. But

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Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna create natural opportunities. We've talked

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, the Falcons have not

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Speaker 1: done enough to sack the quarterback. Getting pressure is important, great,

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Speaker 1: but your game changing plays when the quarterback goes down,

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Speaker 1: to have that around Grady Jarrett is important something that

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Speaker 1: I'm stealing from you. And so Tory talked to David

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Speaker 1: but David made a point.

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Speaker 2: Of saying that this is still Grady's group.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that is I mean, you look at this

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Speaker 2: That Grady built.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's really good, and like I was just sitting

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Speaker 3: really is this idea that Grady Jarrett has been the

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Speaker 3: as a defensive tackle in the league, as one of

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Speaker 3: I was actually telling my dad this not too long ago.

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Speaker 3: has been in this league for a long time. He

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Speaker 2: He was here day in day out.

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Speaker 3: And I take notice of stuff like that because he's

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Speaker 1: If he don't want to, don't have to be at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally didn't have to. But he's there and he

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Speaker 1: Especially because he doesn't have Aaron Donald type stats. He

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Speaker 1: just doesn't because he's been triple teamed a lot recently exactly,

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Speaker 1: but also just that he's not exact, he's not that

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Speaker 1: think to see the league wide respect. He told me, gosh,

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Speaker 1: pride that he gets is of course when you have

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Speaker 1: big numbers or you help your team win. But he's

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Speaker 1: had several situations where after the game the offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach from the other team comes and finds him and says,

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Speaker 1: the week's been hell because of you. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: they're the lead. The league wide respect is there, and

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Speaker 1: he's the public face of this team right now, right now,

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Speaker 1: Maybe Robinson vision Robinson takes it over, maybe some other

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Speaker 1: And I think that for everyone to kind of pay

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Speaker 3: Also, isn't Khalais Campbell like one sack away from one hundred?

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Speaker 1: Certainly is? So do you know who's going to get

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Speaker 3: Do you know who will be the most excited if

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Speaker 3: he plays a role in that, Grady Jared.

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Speaker 2: If Grady Jered can.

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Speaker 3: Pull a blocker off of the Kalais Campbell and Kalayis

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Speaker 3: Grady Jared will be the first one there to congratulate him.

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Speaker 1: Right. And another kind of side tangential thing and then

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Speaker 1: we'll get back on script here is that nobody expected

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Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen or Arthur Smith after they hired their new

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Speaker 1: and this is exactly what we're going to look like.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think another thing that we learned is when you

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Speaker 1: massive humans everywhere. Cam Jordan is massive human. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what the Falcons went out and God in free agency,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of massive humans.

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Speaker 3: Fled to pre and Kalais Campbell are just giant individuals.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that we learned that, look this,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be hybrid, it's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: all these buzzwords that coaches like to say when they

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Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a little New Orleans e. And

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Speaker 1: that's not a problem because New.

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Speaker 3: Orleans has had a really, really good defensive front for

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Speaker 3: a very long time. Right, Ryan Nielsen, David and Yamata

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Speaker 3: they've played a role in that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that that's something else that we learned.

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Speaker 1: If we're just looking at at actions, yeah, right, If

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Speaker 1: seeing we're gonna have some Saints type style in here,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good transition to what we learned.

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Speaker 1: Number two is that the Falcons linebackers can run.

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Speaker 2: They are so fast.

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Speaker 3: I think more than anything, I feel like I've spoken

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Speaker 3: they are just like these bulldogs. That is not off

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Speaker 2: And speedy and move very very well. Maybe a Rottwiler.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Troy Anderson isn't like a small guy, but

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Speaker 3: he runs at four to four. So you're really, I think,

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Speaker 3: more than anything, you are seeing the modern era of linebackers.

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Speaker 3: The best example I can give you is Caden Ellis

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Speaker 3: Is this is what a modern linebacker looks like in

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Speaker 3: the modern NFL era, And how they are utilizing those

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Speaker 3: two I think is really interesting. I'm really curious to

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Speaker 3: that has kind of fluctuated in three years time, and

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Speaker 3: And I think you look at them and you know

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Speaker 2: Anderson can run with just about any running back in

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Speaker 1: And that's saying something and it's not wrong. And I

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Speaker 1: think because if you look at how the Saints had it,

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Speaker 1: Mario Davis, big dude, right, But I think you have

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Speaker 1: a little like a like a like Pubby that's out

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Speaker 1: nicest way.

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Speaker 3: I think we said like a golden retriever, Like my

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Speaker 3: And I always like think in my head, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Troy Anderson's really like Bogie, right.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that that's a positive because he

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think that that's fair and appropriate because

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Speaker 2: You want to know who's competing for that.

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Speaker 3: This is one, and this is the most what I

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Speaker 3: believe to be the most heated battle of training camp.

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Speaker 3: And I'm really excited to see it because both guys

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Speaker 3: are coming at it from very very different like angles

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Speaker 3: in terms of a storyline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just I get.

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Speaker 3: Kind of giddy about it because you just love seeing

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Speaker 3: this kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's di al for a CFL guy from

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Speaker 1: a small college trying to prove himself and earn that

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Speaker 1: spot that you know, against all odds. And then you

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Speaker 1: have a former first round pick and Mike Hughes who's

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Speaker 1: finally healthy and in a good system.

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Speaker 2: The similarly to Jeff A Kuda, right.

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Speaker 1: And he's trying to come in and prove himself. So

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Speaker 1: two very different storylines, one very important position, even if

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Speaker 1: he's not a quote unquote starter. The group that we

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Speaker 1: haven't talked that much about are the second year defenders

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Speaker 1: and how they fit. We've talked a lot about this

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Speaker 1: defensive front. We're talking about Grady Jarrett and a lot

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Speaker 1: of new guys. Arnold Abakati still around, DiAngelo still involved here,

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Speaker 1: Trey Anderson, we can can he be that three down guy?

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Speaker 1: So let's me focus on those edge guys. Right. For

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Speaker 1: as much as it's a big defensive front, there is

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Speaker 1: a jack linebacker spot of as Arthur Smith says, like

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Speaker 1: whatever the gurus want to call it, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call it, right, but nonetheless there's that kind of

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Speaker 1: it's not always even weak side edge rusher, but like

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Speaker 1: there's that edge rusher, and where that Lorenzo Carter seems

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Speaker 1: to be the guy for that spot. Where do you

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Speaker 1: see Arnold Ebukattie fitting in? This is a second round

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Speaker 1: pick and DiAngelo this is like this is a third

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Speaker 1: round pick. They've been cross training a bit. Question marks

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Speaker 1: how do they fit in to this defense with so

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Speaker 1: many new pieces?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we'll find out more when we

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Speaker 3: do get into like putting the pads on and actually

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Speaker 3: going a little bit more live and getting into joint

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Speaker 3: practices and actually seeing a rotation with this front seven.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll be able to answer that question in

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Speaker 3: a little bit. That's why it's on here, Like we

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Speaker 3: will get to that point where we can.

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Speaker 2: Answer this question.

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Speaker 3: But I think just right now, after OTAs and after

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Speaker 3: Mini camp, I thought it was really interesting that there

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Speaker 3: were a few times where it's like Bud Dupree, Lorenzo Carter,

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Speaker 3: Grady and David on Yamata in the middle, and then

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Speaker 3: Ak just kind of like Roman a little bit, and

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a really interesting group. And then

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Speaker 3: Ak comes off and like d Alfred comes in for

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Speaker 3: a Nickel package and then the twos go come on

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Speaker 3: and it's like D'Angelo Ilone also kind of roaming around

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and D'angelomlone, I think, is somebody who

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Speaker 3: I went into this after Ryan Nielsen was hired and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know where he fits.

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Speaker 2: I just don't because you talk about hybrid players.

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Speaker 3: He is one of those type of guys through and through,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I just don't know where he's

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Speaker 3: gonna fit. Even like Ak, I don't know exactly what

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Speaker 3: role he's gonna play. We're kind of starting to see

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Speaker 3: that they are still playing a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: hybrid role, and you talk about that jack like linebacker

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Speaker 3: type of role.

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Speaker 2: Dan alone was doing quite a.

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Speaker 3: Bit of that in OTA's in mini camp, and I'm

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Speaker 3: excited to see more of what Ryan Nielsen is going

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Speaker 3: to do with those two guys in terms of leaning

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Speaker 3: into their skill set, because it's their skill set is

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Speaker 3: not the same as Bud DePree, It's not that really

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Speaker 3: the same as Lorenzo Carter. They are different guys. And

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Speaker 3: I know that Arnold Abakati you put he's a second

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Speaker 3: round pick they draft. They went up in the second

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Speaker 3: round to get him. So just you're not gonna not

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Speaker 3: put him out there, So how do you lean into

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Speaker 3: what his strength is and what happens when you do

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Speaker 3: put Bud Dupree and Lorenzo Carter out there and you

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Speaker 3: have ak just kind of like roaming around. He said

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Speaker 3: he left some money out on the field in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. This is a guy who wants wants

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Speaker 3: that bank. He wants to go out in twenty three

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Speaker 3: and prove that he can go out and get that money.

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Speaker 3: And the money we're talking about is Sacks. So how

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Speaker 3: do you put him the best position to be that?

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Speaker 3: That's a question mark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what good coaches do. I think

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Speaker 1: some of them come in and they say, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's not the body type for my system. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: around when they drafted them, see you. But it seems

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Speaker 1: like that they're really trying to get creative with how

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Speaker 1: they want to use this and how they can create pressure.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fascinating to see a really intriguing

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Speaker 1: defense kind of come together and build chemistry and morph

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Speaker 1: over the course of the summer. So that's going to

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Speaker 1: wrap it up for part two of our I guess

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Speaker 1: I call that summer school edition of Falcons Final Whistle.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for joining us. Hope you

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Speaker 1: guys are listening on a you know, white sand beach

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Speaker 1: or something like that. That's where Tory and I are

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Speaker 1: going to be, I'm sure. And anyway, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much, and we were gonna and we will be

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