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Speaker 2: Now prescription stimulant drugs for children, and there are ways

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Speaker 2: that HHS can work collaboratively with state agencies on this

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Speaker 2: and to actually promote more community based intervention to combat

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Speaker 2: over prescribing. And we all have seen the harmful side

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Speaker 2: this and tremendous concern for grandmamas like me who see

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Speaker 2: So I know your team is working own solutions. So

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Speaker 2: you're going to have your make our Children Healthy Again

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Speaker 2: strategy that you're going to release, But talk for a moment.

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Speaker 2: We've got thirty seconds left. Talk for a moment on

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Speaker 2: how you can better arm parents with information on the

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Speaker 2: harmful side effects of over prescribing these stimulant drugs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the problems, Senator is that you know,

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Speaker 3: we now have one out of every five kids on

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Speaker 3: these drugs, and the antidepressants even more, and we know

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Speaker 3: very little about the long term impacts because NIH and

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Speaker 4: Asleep at the wheel.

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Speaker 3: Oh right now, we are doing those studies. We're doing

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Speaker 3: extensive studies so that we can warrant parents and so

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Speaker 3: that we can forge the companies to put labels on

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Speaker 4: You know, we'll do whatever we can to show that.

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Speaker 3: Just to get data out to the public, that's really

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Speaker 4: Some of these drugs is.

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Speaker 3: You know, are we actually preventing suicide or are we

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Speaker 3: creating more suicide? And that's something that we don't know

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Speaker 3: the answer to, which is, you know, how did these

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Speaker 3: knowing the answer those questions. That is malpractice at these agencies.

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Speaker 3: And that is the malpractice that I am going to fix.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Senator Warren, Thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 5: So last November, while you are under consideration to become

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Speaker 5: Secretary of Health and Human Services, mister Kennedy, you said, quote,

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Speaker 5: if vaccines are working for somebody, I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: take them away now exceptions, no if sands or buts.

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Speaker 5: You would not take away vaccine from anyone who wanted them.

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Speaker 6: Then last week you.

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Speaker 5: Announced that the COVID nineteen vaccine is no longer approved

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Speaker 5: for healthy people under the age of sixty five. In

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Speaker 5: announcing the change. You said the vaccine will be available

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Speaker 5: for anyone who wants it.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 5: Obviously both things cannot be true at the same moment.

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Speaker 5: So let's clear this up right now. Secretary Kennedy, will

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Speaker 5: you tell America that all adults and all children over

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Speaker 5: six months of age are eligible to get a COVID

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Speaker 5: booster at their local pharmacy today.

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Speaker 4: Anybody can get the booster. I'm sorry, anybody can get it,

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Speaker 5: So you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS.

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Speaker 5: Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking

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Speaker 4: It's not recommended for healthy people.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 5: No, If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that

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Speaker 5: in many states is that you can't walk into a

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Speaker 5: Senator doctor Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to recommend a product for which there's

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Speaker 3: no clinical data for that. Indication would is that what

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Speaker 3: I should be doing, what you should.

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Speaker 5: Be doing is honoring your promise that you made when

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Speaker 5: you were looking to get confirmed in this job. That is,

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Speaker 5: you promised that you would not take away vaccines from

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Speaker 5: anyone who wanted them. You just changed the classification of

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Speaker 4: I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.

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Speaker 5: It takes it away if you can't get it from

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Speaker 3: Well, most Americans are going to be able to get

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Speaker 5: For question is everyone who wants it? That was your promise.

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Speaker 9: I'm no identity.

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Speaker 4: I never promised that I was going to recommend.

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Speaker 10: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 10: information coming from every angle, but the will to deceive.

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Speaker 4: Fear not.

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Speaker 10: You found the place for truth, the voice in a

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Speaker 10: generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 10: greatest country in the history of the world. This is

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Speaker 10: the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here we go.

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Speaker 1: At Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 11: Andrew colvitt in for the one and only Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 11: who's on assignment.

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Speaker 1: Today's traveling abroad. But don't fear we have.

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Speaker 11: Some Charlie Kirk content coming at you in the second

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Speaker 11: We are blessed by an amazing first guest of this show,

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Speaker 11: a true patriot of this country, Senator Eric Schmidt from

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Speaker 11: the great state of Missouri. Senator you and I were

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Speaker 11: watching that exchange just before we took the air of

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Speaker 11: with Senator Liz Warren like it's twenty twenty two, arguing

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Speaker 11: just yet, but I mean, it was an amazing exchange.

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Speaker 11: You and I could see us laughing on the call

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Speaker 11: before it, so you know, he throws the gauntlet down,

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Speaker 11: and I think it's very central to this whole committee

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Speaker 11: hearing where he says, you've taken over one hundred and

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Speaker 11: vast majority of Americans have grown skeptical of what they're selling.

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Speaker 11: Your take on this committee hearing, and then I want

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Speaker 11: to get into your nack Con speech.

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Speaker 13: Look, I think is rising and for good reason because

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Speaker 13: I think what the American people saw, particularly during COVID,

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Speaker 13: that's okay. I mean, they lost complete credibility. And what

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Speaker 13: RFK Junior is trying to do with the Trump administration

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Speaker 13: But the truth is the American people were lied to.

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Speaker 13: Let's just take the COVID vaccine. First of all, it

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Speaker 13: should have never been mandatory. In my book, The Last

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Speaker 13: I actually note this we took the vaccine mandate case

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Speaker 8: It should have never been mandated.

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Speaker 13: But also we were to at first it was going

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Speaker 8: Neither one of those things were true.

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Speaker 13: And so I think that American people have good reason

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Speaker 13: And I think RFK Junior was brought in to be

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well said, I mean, and by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just came out. Last line of defense.

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Speaker 11: You were the vanguard of our legal defense for patriots

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Speaker 13: Well, Look, COVID was an example where power doesn't necessarily corrupt,

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Speaker 13: And so when we stepped up, when we brought those lawsuits.

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Speaker 13: We sued on the vaccine mandate, we won. We sued

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Speaker 11: Well, Senator, as you well know, when you exercise the demons,

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Speaker 1: Senator. I actually wanted you to come on the show

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Speaker 11: You are catching some heat here because your your nat

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Speaker 11: Is this an extremeist flag flying? Is it a racist speech?

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Speaker 13: The H one B visa, for example, was sold as

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Speaker 11: I just have to play this clip, and I believe

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Speaker 5: Last week, announce the COVID nineteen vaccine is no longer

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Speaker 11: So that wasn't the best part of that clip, but

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Speaker 11: If you want to go get a COVID shot, go

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Speaker 3: Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy.

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Speaker 11: to get institutional capture out of Washington, DC, and RFKS

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Speaker 11: delivering that we have his back one hundred percent, one

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Speaker 11: hundred extra percent.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 16: As President Trump works to end deadly wars that are

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Speaker 16: The Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsett and Secretary of State

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Speaker 16: Following tuesday strike on a Venezuelan boat that was allegedly

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Speaker 16: carrying illegal drugs. Eleven people were killed as the president

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Speaker 1: We're stealing the border.

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Speaker 9: But President Trump is willing to go on.

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Speaker 17: Offense in ways that others have not been and to

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Speaker 17: allow this kind of activity. You're poisoning our people. We've

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Speaker 9: It's a new day, it's a different day.

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Speaker 17: And so those eleven drug traffickers are no longer with us,

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Speaker 17: sending a very clear signal that this is an activity

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Speaker 16: And another headlines, Florida is set to become the first

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Speaker 1: It's wrong, it's a moral.

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Speaker 13: They do not have the right to tell you what

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Speaker 4: People have a right.

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Speaker 18: To make their own decisions, informed decisions. You want to

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Speaker 18: put whatever different vaccines in your body, God bless you.

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Speaker 16: Governor Ron DeSantis says the effort coincides with the establishment

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Speaker 16: America Healthy again principles including individual medical freedom and parent rights. Initially,

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Speaker 16: the Florida Department of Health plans to roll back mandates

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Speaker 16: on a broader package of reforms. Well, that's going to

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Speaker 16: do it for your headlines. As always, we appreciate having

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Speaker 11: the Washington Free Beacon. John, Welcome to the show. You

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Speaker 11: have been a mainstay in the media world for many

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Speaker 11: many years. I've run into you I multiple times over

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Speaker 11: the years. You do fantastic work. You're always at the

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Speaker 11: sort of front end of where the news cycle is going.

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Speaker 1: And I thought you would just be perfect for.

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Speaker 11: This because Barry Weiss, formerly of the New York Times,

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Speaker 11: she was on the she was a wedding opinion and

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Speaker 11: worth diving into what does.

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Speaker 1: It all mean?

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Speaker 11: Because now we're hearing that that paramount CBS is buying

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Speaker 11: her company for an undisclosed amount, but we know it's

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Speaker 11: about maybe between one and two hundred million dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it feels like she just started the Free Press like

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Speaker 11: two days ago and she's now selling it for one

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Speaker 11: to two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about you know Barry, you like Barry.

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Speaker 11: Tell us about Barry Weiss, what they what the mission

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Speaker 11: of the Free Press was, and why this is important

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Speaker 11: in the media landscape space.

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean, Barry is someone that comes out of

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Speaker 19: opinion journalism. She before the New York Times, she was

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Speaker 19: the Times to I think you know, have slightly slightly

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Speaker 12: All of her colleagues kind of ganged up on her

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Speaker 12: and they will she talked her.

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Speaker 19: It was very high school type stuff, and she frequently

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Speaker 19: like she would publish stuff and then she would face

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Speaker 19: online harassment from her own colleagues in public, and the Times,

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Speaker 19: of course, didn't really stand up for her. They never

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Speaker 19: started her her own thing, The Free Press, and that

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Speaker 19: was I believe twenty twenty two, and now two years

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Speaker 19: is an incredible testament to what she's been able to

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Speaker 19: accomplish in such a short time, and also about the

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Speaker 19: gaping hole in the journalism marketplace that she identified and

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Speaker 19: filled with I think very necessary content. I'm not going

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Speaker 19: to sit here and say I love every single thing

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Speaker 19: the Free Press has ever published, but it's it's really good.

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Speaker 19: It's stuff for the most part, and I'm not surprised

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and what they're really buying is the trust that

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Speaker 1: Now I see some people hating on this.

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Speaker 11: There's there's a little you know, people are suggesting it's

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's not.

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Speaker 11: But what you're what you're buying, to your point, John,

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Speaker 11: is maybe not a revenue stream. I don't know what

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Speaker 11: don't think I am. I don't know Barry on a

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Speaker 11: personal level at all. But I did get a couple

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Speaker 1: We ended up passing on them. It wasn't the right fit.

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Speaker 11: But even the fact that if you if you think

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Speaker 11: like that. Again, it was the wrong topic, it was

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Speaker 11: the Paper of Record, that was a really big deal.

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Speaker 11: And to your point, if people don't believe this is real, uh,

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Speaker 11: this kind of high school activity that happens in the newsrooms.

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Speaker 1: It's very, very real. It's very it's very real.

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Speaker 11: On college campuses, the few professors that we know that

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Speaker 11: it's really petty stuff. But again, the big takeaway here, though, John,

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Speaker 12: Least I mean, I think part of what makes it's

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Speaker 19: I mean, Barry, there's a lot of big, you know,

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Speaker 12: This is not happening.

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Speaker 8: This is not true.

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Speaker 19: And every time they find some activist or some organization

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Speaker 19: it's guitar funded, it's whatever. And Barry's been on the

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Speaker 19: And you're seeing a lot of false allegations about the

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Speaker 19: Free Press all the time. But it's a big deal

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Speaker 19: because when CBS acquires the Free Press and puts her

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Speaker 19: a major media organization on the work she does, and

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Speaker 19: it's going to have a tremendous impact on the landscape

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Speaker 19: of media in our country. And I think part of

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Speaker 19: is the subscribers. I don't know how many subscribers Barry has,

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Speaker 19: And these are are educated, sophisticated people. They're people who

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Speaker 11: Yeah, what do you think this says about kind of

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Speaker 12: John?

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Speaker 11: I mean you, like I said, you've been around the

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Speaker 11: and you know, then you have this huge event on

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Speaker 11: November fifth, twenty twenty four, President Trump wins the popular vote,

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Speaker 11: wins in an electoral landslide, and you have all these

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Speaker 11: media groups, whether it be CNN, their ratings are the

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Speaker 11: are in the tank, MSNBC, similar situation. Fox News is

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Speaker 11: What is happening and what is the adjusted? Is this

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Speaker 11: the first domino to fall? I mean, I saw you

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Speaker 11: the domino's following, and it's like Senator Cotton wants that

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Speaker 11: op ed about I've actually forget it.

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Speaker 1: Was something about the nation and it caused this huge

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Speaker 11: Maybe go back to that moment, John, of that Senator

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Speaker 11: meme is that she now becomes president someday, which I

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Speaker 11: I end upping.

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Speaker 19: Ahead of the script right now. If he's only in

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Speaker 19: charge of CBS News, Yeah, I think look as what

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Speaker 19: you just said, all all the mainstream institutions, the ratings

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Speaker 19: The Washington Post, I don't even know anyone reading the.

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Speaker 12: Washington Post them where they have no subscribers left.

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Speaker 19: And the people who are going strong in gating audience

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Speaker 19: and I think very recognized that there were a lot

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Speaker 19: like rapid right wing people, but they know they're being

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Speaker 19: because they enough has sort of percolated out on alternative media,

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Speaker 19: like you're showing others where where a lot of smart

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Speaker 19: people are like, wait a.

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Speaker 12: Minute, why is CNN still saying this.

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Speaker 19: I know this is not true because I saw this

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Speaker 19: video and it's I know this isn't tried.

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Speaker 12: I know I'm being lied to and.

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Speaker 19: There was there's no trust in media anymore, and there

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Speaker 19: is such a hunger for trustworthy new voices. And I

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Speaker 19: think that Barry just has a lot of credibility. The

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Speaker 19: free press has a lot of credibility in that space,

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Speaker 19: and so much of what they publish is just debunking

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Speaker 19: false narratives in mainstream press, and they do it in

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Speaker 19: a very tasteful way, a very thoughtful way, Like they

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Speaker 19: did a story on the they say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 19: Gaza is in famine, and they have all these the press,

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Speaker 19: most of the mainstream media has been showing all these

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Speaker 19: photos of these these children who allegedly are victims of famine,

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Speaker 19: but every single one of them is suffering from some

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Speaker 19: muscular disease which causes them to have, you know, an

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Speaker 19: appearance that.

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Speaker 12: Might be misconstrudism. And Barry took that.

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Speaker 19: The free press took that narrative apart so expertly, and

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Speaker 19: they do things like that that really cut through so

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Speaker 19: much of the mediables shit, and it provides such a

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Speaker 19: valuable service.

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Speaker 12: And I'm so.

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Speaker 19: Happy for Barry, and I'm so happy for all of

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Speaker 19: the liberal tiers.

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Speaker 12: That I have been, you know, and I want more

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Speaker 12: of them.

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Speaker 11: They give me life, they energize us. Yes, there's there

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Speaker 11: are a life source. So yeah, I mean the free

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Speaker 11: press kind of strikes me almost as like a right

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Speaker 11: of center or maybe just center. I mean it, I

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Speaker 11: do think they do. They try and kind of go

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Speaker 11: right down the middle, like almost like.

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Speaker 1: An NPR vibe. But it's just like right down the set.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of thoughtful.

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Speaker 11: It's it's it's written by educated people but that haven't

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Speaker 11: lost their damn minds.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, it's not a rabid right wing or

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Speaker 19: left it's it really is a centrist publication, and it's

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Speaker 19: I really think that, like the real silent majority in

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Speaker 19: our country is just normal people don't want a screamer

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Speaker 19: on either end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I agree.

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Speaker 11: I mean listen as a as a as a hardened

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Speaker 11: partisan who has a very clear vision for what I

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Speaker 11: fact that we need centrist voices to sort of call

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Speaker 11: balls and strikes even you know, speaking of which, you know,

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Speaker 11: Tom Cotton is a guy that we have serious foreign

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Speaker 11: policy disagreements. I mean, Tom Cotton hasn't seen a foreign conflict.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't think American needs to bomb or you know, invade.

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Speaker 11: But Tom Cotton is really good on crime. He's really

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Speaker 11: good on domestic crime issues. And he, by the way,

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Speaker 11: he's going to be proven right and vindicated on some

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Speaker 11: of the stuff that happened even in Trump one point zero,

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Speaker 11: I think. But so this all started, Now go back,

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Speaker 11: We got a minute a half here, John, What was

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Speaker 11: this op ed that kind of started this whole domino

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Speaker 11: effect with Tom Cotton.

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Speaker 19: Tom cotton op ed was I believe was called send

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Speaker 19: in the troops, and it was calling on President Trump

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Speaker 19: in the first term to send in the National Guard

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Speaker 19: to quel BLM rioting in American cities. And this caused

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Speaker 19: I think Barry may have already left the New York

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Speaker 19: Times by this point, but it caused this firestorm in

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Speaker 19: the newsroom about this is putting black people in danger,

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Speaker 19: and Nicole Hannah Jones of sixteen nineteen fame led the

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Speaker 19: charge to and to criticize the paper publicly, this public

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Speaker 19: staff revolt, and the Times, after initially defending the op ed,

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Speaker 19: did a complete one to eighty. I think there's now

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Speaker 19: an editor's note that's longer than the op ed. It's

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Speaker 19: still online. I heard you all to google it and

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Speaker 19: they ultimately ended up like getting rid of several people

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Speaker 19: in the OP ED department and not even conservatives. I uh,

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Speaker 19: I forget his name, but the the OpEd end of

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Speaker 19: the time had to go. He went to the economist

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Speaker 19: and Adam Rubinstein was a great guy. He was forced

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Speaker 19: out and it.

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Speaker 1: Was all pretty pressable.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 19: It was this weird seminal moment which no one even

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Speaker 19: really remembers anymore.

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Speaker 1: But no, it was. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 11: I mean it was basically, it was a newsroom tantrum

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Speaker 11: by a bunch of millennials and gen zers that is

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Speaker 11: sitting us senator had the gall to write an o

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Speaker 11: ED I mean, just amazing.

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Speaker 1: More with John Levine when we get back, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 10: The voice of generations is the Charlie Kirkshow.

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Speaker 9: You guys know how it works.

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Speaker 20: Open Mike, We're gonna be here for a couple of hours,

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Speaker 20: so get comfortable, so you would get rid of all borders.

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Speaker 9: Yes, what species is the baby in the womb? It's

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Speaker 9: a human, therefore they have human rights.

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Speaker 12: No, he's a liar.

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Speaker 9: You're about the lot of this because you only care

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Speaker 9: about yourself, not about the other people. It's very clear.

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Speaker 20: It's by how you're acting. What can I do to

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Speaker 20: save the country? You answer that question every single day.

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Speaker 20: You are doing something that is bigger than you.

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Speaker 8: A lot of.

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Speaker 21: People, I'm gonna like a wait, you'll turn it back

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Speaker 21: up and cut the pay. I do not cat with

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Speaker 21: the say listen, I told you did.

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Speaker 7: Not come to play. We mustn't say it's a higet Heights.

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Speaker 7: It's the Beas Waiting. Wouldn't you buy it to take?

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Speaker 7: It's a ton of a new and I'm about the

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Speaker 7: show them that they can not hope me down when

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Speaker 7: you when they.

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Speaker 11: All right, that's Americancomeback Tour dot com. The tour is

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Speaker 11: starting next week.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna have so so many new clips to show

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Speaker 11: all of you. Those clips go viral literally billions of views.

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Speaker 11: That's why Charlie's in like South Park and stuff. All right,

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Speaker 11: I'd like to be able to say it's this show

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Speaker 11: that is responsible for all that it does contribute.

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Speaker 1: But those clips, I will tell you so.

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Speaker 11: John John Levine from the Washington Free Beacon, please, uh

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Speaker 11: before we have radio rejoin, tell us how people can

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Speaker 11: follow you, what work you're you're currently uh engaged in.

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Speaker 1: So the floor is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 19: I am reachable at Levine Jonathan on X it's Lebine

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Speaker 19: like Adam Levine and Jonathan j O N A T

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Speaker 19: H A N it's full Jonathan, and I'm working on

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Speaker 19: a lot of different stuff investigations, mostly now for the

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Speaker 19: Washington Free Beacon. Do a lot of work on democrats,

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Speaker 19: do a lot of work on nonprofits and woke stuff,

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Speaker 19: DEI universities and you.

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Speaker 8: Know, and that's not right.

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Speaker 19: So you know, if there's anything happening in your life,

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Speaker 19: in your world, you work in government and you're listening

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Speaker 19: to this and something's not the way it should be.

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Speaker 19: I'm very very available.

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Speaker 11: Yes, send your scoops to John. He's trustworthy, he does

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Speaker 11: great work. And I'll it's like Washington Free Beacon Day

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Speaker 11: at the Charlie Kirkshaw. I'll tell you why when we

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Speaker 11: get back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie kirk

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Speaker 11: Show here at the Bitcoin dot Com Mobile studio. Charlie's

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Speaker 11: on assignment, but don't worry because an hour or two

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Speaker 11: Charlie's going to be back and he's gonna be interviewing

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Speaker 11: Aaron Sibarium, also from the Washington Free Beacon. I don't

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Speaker 11: know that we've ever had a Washington Free Beacon reporter

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Speaker 11: on the show, and today we have two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but you beat him, John, This is we pre

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Speaker 11: recorded that, but you somehow managed to beat him, so

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Speaker 11: you can rub that in his face. So, John, I

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Speaker 11: wanted to also talk to you about this because you're

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Speaker 11: in media, you're in speech. Your whole I mean, are

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Speaker 11: your institution is enshrined in the constitution. And our friends

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Speaker 11: from across the pond are having quite a little blow up.

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Speaker 11: A comedian, Graham Linehan was arrested when he gets back

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Speaker 11: into the UK at the airport by five armed officers

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Speaker 11: and apparently this is for his anti transgender comments that

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Speaker 11: he's made three tweets in particular. We can bring up

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Speaker 11: first thoughts, why is this such a big deal? Explain

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Speaker 11: in what's happening here?

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Speaker 12: John, I mean, he went against the Wolke orthodoxies.

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Speaker 19: He tweeted critically of trans and he was met at

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Speaker 19: the airport by five five armed security guards who proceeded

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Speaker 19: to take him into custody. I mean, this is This

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Speaker 19: is exactly what Vice President Vance was talking about when

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Speaker 19: he went to Europe. There is a crisis in free

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Speaker 19: speech and free expression out there. You know, we have

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Speaker 19: a First Amendment in our country. We take that for granted.

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Speaker 19: They don't have those protections in Europe. You make a

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Speaker 19: tweet that the board of Twitter doesn't like. You're in

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Speaker 19: England or something, and you get arrested. And while this

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Speaker 19: is happening, mind you, churches are being burned down in

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Speaker 19: England and across the continent of Europe and we never

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Speaker 19: hear about it. There are grooming gangs running wild in

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Speaker 19: the UK which are only rarely ever reported on, and

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Speaker 19: news about that coming out.

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Speaker 11: You know you have John, John, let me let me pause.

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Speaker 11: Youre right there, because again you're the media expert here.

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Speaker 11: This story was the grooming gang specifically was was largely

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Speaker 11: an Elon Musk enterprise to kind of popularize it, but

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Speaker 11: there was reporting on that. Explain some of these brave

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Speaker 11: people within the UK that have that have been trying

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Speaker 11: to blow the whistle on this.

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Speaker 19: For you will of ordinary people to report on things

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Speaker 19: like rooming gangs and the church fires, and a lot

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Speaker 19: of other issues happening in Europe is out there. It's

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Speaker 19: just the official institutions make it so so difficult, and

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Speaker 19: UK are so much more difficult than in the United States.

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Speaker 19: They make it very very hard to just get the

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Speaker 19: don't know. But they make it very very hard to

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Speaker 12: Comedian for tweets.

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Speaker 19: So it's a it's England is in a very very

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Speaker 19: bad way, and it really you know, I love the

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Speaker 19: United Kingdom.

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Speaker 12: I'm a huge anglophile. It pains me to see that country.

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Speaker 19: Subverting itself and turning its back on so many of

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Speaker 12: So I really hope they can get their act together.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so let's throw let's throw up some of the

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Speaker 11: tweets in question. Let's go put in four to twelve

880
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Speaker 11: right in the center there. This is from grand line

881
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Speaker 11: hand Again, he's a comedian, He's transgressive by nature.

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Speaker 5: Right.

883
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Speaker 11: He says, if a transidentified male is in a female

884
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Speaker 11: only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act.

885
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Speaker 1: This is a fact. There's literally nothing wrong with what

886
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: he said.

887
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Speaker 11: Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails,

888
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Speaker 11: punch him in the balls.

889
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Speaker 1: Which is funny, But I mean, I can.

890
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Speaker 19: Get I can figure out why he probably got him.

891
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 19: What part of the tweet got him in trouble. At

892
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Speaker 19: the end of the day, It's like, are we really

893
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Speaker 19: arresting people with five officers for that?

894
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Speaker 12: And it just it speaks to a question of priorities

895
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Speaker 12: for that country.

896
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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, you know, it is a violent act.

897
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Speaker 19: I don't support anyone committing violence against anybody, but like,

898
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Speaker 19: it is a violent act.

899
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Speaker 1: To be honest.

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, it reminds me of something Charlie got

901
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 11: into some hot water for at one point where he

902
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 11: basically said, listen, where are the dads protecting their daughters?

903
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 11: And he was saying, hey, back in the nineteen fifties,

904
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Speaker 11: you would have had a line of dads blocking the

905
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Speaker 11: bathroom of the locker room, keeping people out. He wasn't

906
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Speaker 11: calling for violence but listen, he was saying, listen, there

907
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 11: is a point where culture has had enough and we

908
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 11: the people must stand up and do that. That is

909
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Speaker 11: a uniquely American phenomenon, by the way, where we take

910
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Speaker 11: things into our own hands. When when we settled the West,

911
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 11: we didn't have, you know, institutions there to protect us.

912
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Speaker 11: People took their own initiative to protect their communities. And

913
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Speaker 11: that's what we're talking about here. Final word to you,

914
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Speaker 11: John again, where can people follow you? Where can they

915
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Speaker 11: see what you're up to? Last twenty seconds.

916
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Speaker 12: First, self defense is not violence. Number one and number two.

917
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Speaker 19: I am reach full on x at Lavigne, Jonathan, and

918
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 19: I accept all tips and scoops and ideas that you

919
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Speaker 19: may have from big wide world listening to this, and

920
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Speaker 19: I'm very available, So message me if anything's not going

921
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Speaker 19: right in your world.

922
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Speaker 1: And awesome.

923
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Speaker 11: All right, Well, thank you so much, John, and your

924
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Speaker 11: colleague Aaron Siberian is going to be on with Charlie

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Speaker 11: an hour two, so thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 9: Okay everyone.

928
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Speaker 20: Andrew did a great job for hour one, but today

929
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Speaker 20: for hour two, I want to have just one part

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Speaker 20: one of our great interview I did recently with Aaron Siberia,

931
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Speaker 20: investigative reporter at the Washington Freebeacon. In part one, we

932
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Speaker 20: discussed his experience of Yale, how he became a journalist,

933
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Speaker 20: the evolution of his political beliefs, some of his biggest stories,

934
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Speaker 20: and more. It's a really interesting conversation. The full interview

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Speaker 20: will be on the Charlie Kirkshaw podcast and members dot

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Speaker 20: charliekirk dot com. So enjoy this. Hey, everybody, we have

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Speaker 20: a very special conversation with you today. Have a very

938
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Speaker 20: smart person who honestly deserves some of those awards they

939
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Speaker 20: keep giving out to those fake journalists. It's Aaron Siberian. Aaron,

940
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Speaker 20: great to see you and meet you.

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Speaker 6: Great to be here.

942
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Speaker 20: And I've been following your work for a while and

943
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Speaker 20: I want to go through some of your greatest hits

944
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Speaker 20: because I have them here. But first I want to

945
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Speaker 20: just kind of give you a chance to introduce yourself.

946
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Speaker 20: You're an investigative reporter with the Washington Freebeacon and you

947
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Speaker 20: went to Yale.

948
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Speaker 2: I did.

949
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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 20: So you go to Yale and you don't end up

951
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Speaker 20: with The New York Times.

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 22: So I came into Yale moderate Democrat and then kind

954
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Speaker 22: of went through a series of sort of incremental radical

955
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Speaker 22: moments that pushed me. I don't know how far right

956
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Speaker 22: they pushed me, but they definitely pushed me further and

957
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Speaker 22: further right, And by twenty twenty I certainly felt more

958
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Speaker 22: comfortable within right wing institutions than left wing ones.

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Speaker 20: What were those radicalizing events?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so, I mean there were really two at Yale.

961
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Speaker 22: The first is that yalees the think call the Yeopolitical Union,

962
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Speaker 22: which comprised of all these little kind of debating societies

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Speaker 22: political parties. And I came in thinking, well, I'm a

964
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Speaker 22: moderate Democrat, so I'll join the Party of the Left right.

965
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Speaker 22: That's what good Democrats do. But their first resolution of

966
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Speaker 22: the term was resolved abolished the police. And this was

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Speaker 22: in twenty fourteen, mind you, so kind of a little

968
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Speaker 22: before before Michael Brown. It was, yeah, I think it

969
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Speaker 22: was before. Yes, it was before Michael Brown. So at

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Speaker 22: the time I just thought, well, that's stupid. No one's

971
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Speaker 22: ever going to take that seriously, right, whereas or make

972
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Speaker 22: it policy? No, exactly. Whereas the whereas the Conservative Party,

973
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Speaker 22: which is another one of them, was debating resolved that

974
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Speaker 22: Socrates deserved to die. And I remember seeing that and

975
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Speaker 22: thinking that's interesting, and I've never thought to ask that question.

976
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Speaker 22: These guys seem cool, I'm gonna hang out.

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Speaker 20: With them, now, that's a much more thought provoking quo.

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Speaker 6: Exactly much so.

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Speaker 22: Right at the start, it just seemed like there was

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Speaker 22: a sort of vibrancy to the conservative intellectual scene that

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Speaker 22: was lacking on the left. And then the second big

982
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Speaker 22: radicalizing moment was there were all these protests in twenty

983
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Speaker 22: fifteen over cultural appropriation Halloween costumes. There's a famous video

984
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Speaker 22: in which, at the time he was an administrator, he

985
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Speaker 22: got encircled in the courtyard of one of the residential

986
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Speaker 22: colleges at Yale and basically accosted. I mean wasn't he

987
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Speaker 22: wasn't physically hurt, but he was surrounded by these jeering

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Speaker 22: students who were saying, you haven't made this a safe space.

989
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Speaker 6: You know, this is supposed to be a home.

990
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Speaker 22: Free speech doesn't matter, so on and so forth, and

991
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Speaker 22: then things just kind of spiraled out of control from there.

992
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Speaker 22: And I guess the maybe sort of two point fifth

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Speaker 22: radicalizing moment is that during that time, I was the

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Speaker 22: opinion editor of the Yale Daily News, the campus paper,

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Speaker 22: and so I had to sit there and field all

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Speaker 22: of the op eds from really, I mean, of all

997
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Speaker 22: sides of the campus debate, but from the protesters. And

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Speaker 22: it's like, I remember sitting next to a girl editing

999
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Speaker 22: her piece that was literally arguing that demands for rational

1000
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Speaker 22: debate were a form of white supremacy designed to police

1001
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Speaker 22: the emotionality of women of color. And in some ways,

1002
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Speaker 22: the creepiest part of all this is that this girl

1003
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Speaker 22: had I had a class with her. She's not a

1004
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Speaker 22: dumb girl at all. She's very it's like in terms

1005
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Speaker 22: of just raw iq very smart. But she was saying

1006
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Speaker 22: this just absolute and I kind of had to sit

1007
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Speaker 22: there and pretend that I thought it was a valuable

1008
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Speaker 22: perspective and edit it and say yes, yes your voice matters,

1009
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Speaker 22: and edit it make it better. But yeah, you know,

1010
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Speaker 22: seeing up close what the alleged best and brightest actually thought,

1011
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Speaker 22: uh was pretty radicalizing.

1012
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Speaker 20: And now she's probably like a circuit court judge or something.

1013
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 22: I yeah, I'm not sure exactly what she's doing now,

1014
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Speaker 22: but I mean, I know she went to law school,

1015
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Speaker 22: so that's.

1016
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Speaker 6: You never know.

1017
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Speaker 20: Yeah, I know she's like an FBI agent or something,

1018
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 20: But no, that's that I think is an important thing

1019
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 20: to spend a little bit of time on is that

1020
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Speaker 20: this was not University Wisconsin Madison. No offense to them,

1021
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 20: but this is this is the pipeline for our nation's

1022
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Speaker 20: decision makers.

1023
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Speaker 6: Right right.

1024
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Speaker 22: There was the South Park episode that kind of made

1025
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Speaker 22: fun of you a little.

1026
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, no, I know it.

1027
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Speaker 1: It was great.

1028
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Speaker 6: Well, but was what I thought was funny?

1029
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Speaker 22: You know that the students in that episode, the fake students,

1030
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Speaker 22: you know, are are trying to defend abortion rights or

1031
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Speaker 22: whatever and say kind of normal liberal things. Honestly, what

1032
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Speaker 22: they're saying in South Park, the kind of fake you know,

1033
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Speaker 22: parodies of liberal students, was a lot more reasonable than

1034
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Speaker 22: what the kids at Yale were actually saying in twenty fifteen. Right,

1035
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Speaker 22: It's not like they were saying, well, you know, woman's

1036
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Speaker 22: right to choose and who are you to decide when

1037
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Speaker 22: life get No, I mean this was full on you know,

1038
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Speaker 22: you cannot debate any thing or disagree with any minority

1039
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Speaker 22: or you're racist. I mean, and it really the sort

1040
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Speaker 22: of Fox News caricature was in fact accurate. I mean,

1041
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 22: there really was no daylight between how I think kind

1042
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Speaker 22: of conservative media portrayed those kids and how they were.

1043
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Speaker 20: It's horrifying because so many of them are now in

1044
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Speaker 20: places of power. Has it gotten worse or better since

1045
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Speaker 20: twenty fourteen at Yale?

1046
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Speaker 22: I it probably, I would assume that in twenty twenty

1047
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Speaker 22: it got pretty bad. I think it kind of recovered

1048
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Speaker 22: a bit post twenty fifteen. Then twenty twenty probably hit

1049
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Speaker 22: in a year, and then you know, now with Trump

1050
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Speaker 22: in office, I expect that there is slightly more intellectual

1051
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 22: freedom in the classroom. I do get the sense conservative

1052
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Speaker 22: kids on campus are a bit more involved in Yeah,

1053
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Speaker 22: I think so. I mean I would assume so. I

1054
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Speaker 22: will also tell you that the undergrad as bad as

1055
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Speaker 22: that was, was never as crazy as Yea law school,

1056
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Speaker 22: which went through a period of just absolute insanity. Where

1057
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Speaker 22: from what my friends who attend that it told me,

1058
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Speaker 22: it really was like Sophia Communist.

1059
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Speaker 20: I know you're not a Yale historian, but I mean

1060
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Speaker 20: you do know the institution. Well, I mean William F.

1061
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Speaker 20: Buckey obviously wrote you know god Man and Yale. I

1062
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Speaker 20: think that was the title. Yeah, yeah, what where did where?

1063
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Speaker 20: For our audience, it doesn't quite follow this, but knows

1064
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Speaker 20: it's a problem. Where did this come from? Why is

1065
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Speaker 20: it that Yale would get to a place where you

1066
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Speaker 20: have to feel an op ed or someone says I wrote,

1067
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Speaker 20: I wrote down like that that basically I can't I

1068
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Speaker 20: should be able to dismiss or have a higher elevation

1069
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Speaker 20: of my opinion based solely on immutable characteristics. Where where

1070
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Speaker 20: does that come from?

1071
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Speaker 1: And how is that?

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Speaker 20: Why has that been taken seriously at our nation's e last?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's obviously.

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Speaker 22: I mean we could have an hour or two hour

1075
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Speaker 22: conversation just about that question.

1076
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Speaker 6: I will say. What I observed was that.

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Speaker 22: It was not the majority of students who actually believed that,

1078
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Speaker 22: but there was a kind of massive preference falsification.

1079
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Speaker 20: So one of what does that mean?

1080
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 22: So people would pretend to go along with it, right,

1081
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Speaker 22: and would never and I think pretend to leave it.

1082
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Speaker 22: And one very illustrative example is that as the opinion

1083
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Speaker 22: editor of the y d N, I also had to

1084
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Speaker 22: write sort of the editorial that was the paper's position,

1085
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Speaker 22: and we would have meetings where we would decide what

1086
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Speaker 22: the paper's position should be. And during the meeting where

1087
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Speaker 22: we were supposed to decide what to say about the protests,

1088
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Speaker 22: it became clear right away that if you spoke up

1089
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Speaker 22: and said Hey, I think this is going too far.

1090
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Speaker 22: What about free speech? You were going to immediately be

1091
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Speaker 22: shouted down as a racist, and so no one did.

1092
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Speaker 22: But I had people come up to me afterwards and say,

1093
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Speaker 22: after we had basically democratically quote unquote decided to vote

1094
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Speaker 22: vote to endorse the protests, a lot of people told me, Look,

1095
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Speaker 22: I didn't really agree with that. I have issues with

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Speaker 22: the protests, but I felt like I couldn't speak.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: I remember one girl in particular literally said that almost

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Speaker 22: verbatim to me.

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Speaker 20: So much of this is just third grade peer pressure

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Speaker 20: that just gets elevated to yeah, and that's shouldn't be

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Speaker 20: too surprising.

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Speaker 22: And you mentioned the New York Times earlier. I mean

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Speaker 22: some of these students without naming names, did in fact

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Speaker 22: go on to work at the New York Times or

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Speaker 22: the Watching the Most Right, which yes, right, which then

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Speaker 22: cou Right Right, which then like five years later had

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Speaker 22: its own kind of struggle sessions during George Floyd.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, I mean, that's so talk more about that again.

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Speaker 12: I didn't.

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Speaker 20: I don't want spend too much on this, but what

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Speaker 20: they do in the college campus doesn't stay there. It

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Speaker 20: metastasizes into the next institution.

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Speaker 22: Yes, yes, it metastasizes into media, and medicine is another

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Speaker 22: big one. I mean all of them really corporate America.

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Speaker 22: But I think medicine, uh is, that is a story

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Speaker 22: that has not fully, I think, been been appreciated.

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Speaker 6: Just how how so I did a lot of reporting.

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Speaker 20: In we have these stories, by the way, yeah so,

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Speaker 20: but keep going, Yeah.

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Speaker 22: So I had a lot of did a lot of

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Speaker 22: reporting in late twenty twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty

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Speaker 22: two about the effort to ration COVID drugs based on

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Speaker 22: the race.

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Speaker 20: Right here, it's one of your best, by the way,

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Speaker 20: you deserve huge credit. I remember we covered this for days.

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Speaker 22: Keep going, yeah, And so, I mean these ideas about

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Speaker 22: kind of race based retishtribution that we're inculcating in the

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Speaker 22: academy did not stay confined to a critical race theory

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Speaker 22: semin are at Harvard Law School. I mean they became

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Speaker 22: government policy and not just you know, a city or

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Speaker 22: a county putty in like multiple US states.

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Speaker 10: Learn more in three hours than four years at a

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Speaker 10: woke university, and it's free.

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Speaker 20: Then, Charlie Kirkshaw, Okay, you hear me talk about why

1136
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 20: refly a lot what what what's going on? Well, why

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 20: refly they are wonderful supporters of this program and of

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Speaker 20: our campus tour. You see why refin they understand that

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 20: private student loan debt in America totals about three hundred

1140
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 20: billion dollars. Why refly does not care what your credit

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Speaker 20: score is. When the payment on your distressed or defaulted

1142
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 20: private student loan is so big you can't ever get

1143
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 20: ahead in your finances, why refit surely is your best option.

1144
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Speaker 20: Let's face it, if you have distressed or defaulted private

1145
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 20: student loans, nobody is coming to save you or bail

1146
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 20: you out. Y Refi offers a three minute rate check

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Speaker 20: without any credit impact. Bad credit is indeed accepted. Just

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Speaker 20: call eight to eight y Refi thirty four or log

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Speaker 20: onto y refight dot com. That's why are ef y

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Speaker 20: dot com may not be available in all fifty states.

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Speaker 20: If you go to yrefi dot com, you can finally

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Speaker 20: take control of your student loan situation. And again it's

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Speaker 20: distressed or defaulted. Private student loans, which are different than

1154
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Speaker 20: federal loans, may not be available in all fifty states.

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Speaker 20: Y Refi is not a debt settlement company and they

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00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 20: work with each barrower individually, tailoring each loan each borrower's

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Speaker 20: specific situation. Go to yrefight dot com. That's why are

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Speaker 20: ef y dot com. Do you guys know how it works?

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Speaker 9: Open Mike.

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Speaker 20: We're gonna be here for a couple hours, so get comfortable,

1161
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Speaker 20: so you would get rid of all borders.

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Speaker 9: Yes, what species is the baby in the womb? It's

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Speaker 9: not a human airfore they have human rights.

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Speaker 12: No, it's a liar.

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Speaker 20: Your typical like this because you only care about yourself,

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 20: not about the other people. It's very clear by how

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Speaker 20: you're acting. What can I do to save the country?

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Speaker 20: You answer that question every single day. You are doing

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Speaker 20: something that is bigger than you.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people.

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Speaker 8: How I'm gonna know you like a.

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Speaker 7: Run to wait, you'll turn it back up and cut

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Speaker 7: the pace. I do not care what the say.

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Speaker 21: Listen, I told you did not did not come to pray.

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Speaker 21: We mustn't say it's a hik heights. It's the best way,

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Speaker 21: the one.

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Speaker 2: Not you buy.

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Speaker 7: It's a takes a ton of a new im about

1179
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Speaker 7: to show them that they can not hop me down

1180
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Speaker 7: when you want with nigh from me loss. We came

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Speaker 7: from the bottom and know we the loss to be

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Speaker 7: showing what we need chose. If you keep the job,

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Speaker 7: you got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 22: These ideas about kind of race based redistribution that were

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Speaker 22: inculcating in the academy did not stay confined to a

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Speaker 22: critical race theory smin are at Harvard Law School. I mean,

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Speaker 22: they became government policy, and not just you know, a

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Speaker 22: city or or a county, but in like multiple US

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Speaker 22: states at least three, New York, Utah, and Minnesota all

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Speaker 22: had these race conscious triage schemes where basically the way

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Speaker 22: it worked was that if you were not white, you

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Speaker 22: automatically got two extra points added to your COVID risk score,

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Speaker 22: and two points was about the same weight they would

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Speaker 22: give to things like obesity or diabetes, and so if

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Speaker 22: you held everything else equal, the non white person was

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Speaker 22: going to win every time. And there was really very

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Speaker 22: I mean, there was not any serious scientific argument that

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Speaker 22: you know, this was an exact way to quantify risk,

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Speaker 22: or that all non white people were really at, you know,

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Speaker 22: that much more risk of developing serious COVID. I mean,

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Speaker 22: this was all nonsense. But they did it anyway, and

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Speaker 22: they only stopped after I reported on it, and then

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Speaker 22: people threatened to sue them.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I have the story. I mean, it's incredible. So

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Speaker 20: just to be clear that life saving COVID drugs were

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Speaker 20: given in a ration way against white people to prefer

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Speaker 20: black or Latino people or as they say, Latin ex

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Speaker 20: ethnicity yep, yep.

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Speaker 22: And would I would note too that it literally in

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Speaker 22: some of these schemes just lumped in every single person

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Speaker 22: who wasn't white, which, like, even if you thought that

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Speaker 22: maybe one particular racial group, for some genetic reason, was

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Speaker 22: at a much higher risk of COVID and there could

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Speaker 22: be some reason why we really should take that into account,

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Speaker 22: that's not what they were doing. They were just saying, well,

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Speaker 22: all of these groups, which in fact had very different

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Speaker 22: rates of COVID mortality, they're all not white, so we'll

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Speaker 22: just kind of create a category for non white.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so it says here in your story. In Minnesota,

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Speaker 20: health officials have devised their own ethical framework that prioritizes

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 20: black eighteen year olds over white sixty four year olds

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Speaker 20: for COVID drugs. Now, I think this was monoclonal antibodies,

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Speaker 20: if I'm not mistaken, Yes, which actually was a very

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Speaker 20: effective treatment. Remember this was in January twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 20: so we're about a year and a half into the

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Speaker 20: whole thing, and monoclonal antibodies were very promising immediate developments

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Speaker 20: to kind of to help. So this is not just

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Speaker 20: some trivial thing, but an eighteen year old black kid

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Speaker 20: in downtown Minneapolis, like an eighteen year old Somalian kid,

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Speaker 20: could get monoclonal antibodies easier than a sixty four year

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Speaker 20: old veteran that fought in Vietnam.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so holding constant all of their health conditions, right,

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Speaker 22: that's true. But of course the thing is that age

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Speaker 22: was the biggest predictor of COVID mortality by far.

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Speaker 20: Yes, but they're using race.

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Speaker 6: Yes, but they're so.

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Speaker 20: I mean, I really wanted to well on this for

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Speaker 20: a second. How is this possible? I mean, how did

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Speaker 20: we as a country, thankfully, I want to get into

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Speaker 20: that in a second. Have we actually turned the page

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01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 20: on it? But this parasitic ideology, what do we want

1242
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Speaker 20: to call it, woke mind virus whatever, It went into

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Speaker 20: medicine where we are less likely to give out life

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Speaker 20: saving drugs just because of some sort of oppression framework

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Speaker 20: we're working from.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean I think there's a lot of reasons

1247
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Speaker 22: why it became such a powerful force in medicine. One

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Speaker 22: of them is that the field of public health kind

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Speaker 22: of from its inception, was based in sort of you

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Speaker 22: might call proto woke premisses, right, because the whole idea

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Speaker 22: behind public health, right is that there are social forces

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Speaker 22: that affect the spread of disease. Now, of course that's

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Speaker 22: true and uncontroversial at a sufficient level of generality. But

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Speaker 22: you can see how if that's your mindset to look

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Speaker 22: for social forces that influence epidemiological patterns or influence the

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Speaker 22: spread of disease, is you are going to be more

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Speaker 22: open to these kinds of DEI critical race theories that

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Speaker 22: prescribe rationing drugs based on race.

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Speaker 20: Right.

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Speaker 22: I think that's one reason, and then the other. And

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Speaker 22: again this is a little more speculative, but I get

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Speaker 22: the sense that to become a doctor you have to

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Speaker 22: jump through all of these coups, and it may select

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Speaker 22: for a certain kind of person who's smart, but perhaps

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Speaker 22: also somewhat conformist and just as willing to kind of

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Speaker 22: do whatever the check whatever boxes they're told to check.

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Speaker 22: And unlike say law, which has its own problems, but

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Speaker 22: at least in law, you know doing legal training. There's

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Speaker 22: some emphasis on getting the other side debating. There's nothing

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Speaker 22: like that in medicine. So I just think medicine hasn't

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Speaker 22: developed really any antibodies against wocism.

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Speaker 20: How did you find this story?

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 6: Someone?

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Speaker 22: I think it might have been Carol Markowitz, the journalist,

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Speaker 22: tweet it. Yeah, she tweeted about New York and I

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 22: just thought, hu, I wonder if any other states are

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Speaker 22: doing this?

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Speaker 6: And so I basically just started googling.

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Speaker 22: This was before chatch EPT, So I just started googling,

1280
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Speaker 22: trying to find other examples, and I found this is

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Speaker 22: perhaps the most scandalous part.

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Speaker 6: This is all public. I mean they didn't even try

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Speaker 6: to hide it.

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Speaker 20: They thought, you know, it's just right. So the CDC

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Speaker 20: said high risk states that quote systemic health and social

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Speaker 20: inequities have put minorities at increased risk. So it's the

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Speaker 20: systemic racism is the reason why they're dying.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, and there was also this this guidance the FDA

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Speaker 22: put out that said race could be a risk factor.

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Speaker 20: We're right back with Aaron. Let me know your thoughts

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Speaker 20: on this episode. Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

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Speaker 16: As President Trump works to end deadly wars that are

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Speaker 16: happening across the globe. He is simultaneously a war against

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Speaker 16: narco terrorists in Latin America well. The Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 16: Pete Hegsett and Secretary of State Marc or Rubio say

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Speaker 16: that military operations against cartels will continue. Following Tuesday strike

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Speaker 16: on a Venezuelan boat that was allegedly carrying illegal drugs.

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Speaker 16: Eleven people were killed as the President and other top

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Speaker 16: administration officials watched the order being carried out.

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Speaker 7: As you can see here, we're stealing the border.

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Speaker 17: But President Trump is willing to go on offense in

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Speaker 17: ways that others have not been and to send that

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Speaker 17: clear signal to Trende Aragua, Cartel del Souls and others

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Speaker 17: emanating from Venezuela. We're not going to allow this kind

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Speaker 17: of activity. You're poisoning our people. We've got incredible assets

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Speaker 17: and they are gathering in the region. And so you

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Speaker 17: want to try to traffic drugs, it's a new day,

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Speaker 17: it's a different day, and so those eleven drug traffickers

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Speaker 17: are no longer with US, sending a very clear signal

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Speaker 17: that this is an activity the United States is not

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Speaker 17: going to tolerate in our Hemisphere.

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Speaker 16: And in other headlines, Florida to become the first date

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Speaker 16: to end all state vaccine mandates. The move includes vaccine

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Speaker 16: rules for kids to attend schools.

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Speaker 9: It's wrong, it's a moral.

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Speaker 1: They do not have the right to tell you what

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Speaker 1: you put in your body.

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Speaker 18: People have a right to make their own decisions, informed decisions.

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Speaker 18: You want to put whatever different vaccines in your body,

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Speaker 18: God bless you.

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Speaker 4: I hope you make an informed decision.

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Speaker 18: You don't want to put whatever vaccines in your body,

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Speaker 18: God bless you, and I hope you make an informed decision.

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Speaker 16: Governor Ron DeSantis says the effort coincides with the establishment

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Speaker 16: of the Florida Maha Commission. He describes it as a

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Speaker 16: working group that will recommend state level integration of Make

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Speaker 16: America Healthy Again principles, including individual medical freedom and parent rights. Initially,

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Speaker 16: the Florida Department of Health plans to roll back mandates

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Speaker 16: on about a half dozen vaccines under its authority.

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Speaker 1: Beyond that, the.

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Speaker 16: Department will work with the Republican majority Florida legislature on

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Speaker 16: a broader package of reforms.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's going to do it.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, and there was also this this guidance the FDA

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Speaker 22: put out that said race could be a risk factor.

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Speaker 22: And again, you know, in some sense, like, yes, it's

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Speaker 22: true that there were statistical correlations between race and COVID

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Speaker 22: nineteen mortality.

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Speaker 20: But is it the actoring for all the other variables.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, probably not.

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Speaker 20: Because I mean, this is not a racist thing to say,

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Speaker 20: but Black Americans tend to be more overweight in the forties,

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Speaker 20: especially black than their counterparts. So that's that's just that's

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Speaker 20: just that's a statistical fact.

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Speaker 22: Yes, yes, And and there's also probably difference. I mean,

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Speaker 22: it's also class differences, right of course, I'm not judging.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like I think.

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Speaker 22: I Mean, one thing that's interesting is actually one of

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Speaker 22: the states, Utah, later claimed that one of the reasons

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Speaker 22: they abandoned the scheme is that it wasn't even working

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Speaker 22: to get the drugs to minorities and reading between the lines.

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Speaker 22: I well, right, and of course that wouldn't make it okay,

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Speaker 22: but the.

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Speaker 20: Whole premise is so similar.

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Speaker 22: Yes, yes, yes, but I would just point out that,

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Speaker 22: you know, it may well have been that the problem

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Speaker 22: here was that, you know, the people they wanted to

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Speaker 22: get the drugs to just weren't coming in the door,

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Speaker 22: and so all they really ended up doing was kind

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Speaker 22: of erecting barriers for white people. It didn't even do

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Speaker 22: accomplished Utah, right.

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Speaker 20: Right, Polynesian I mean they have like very small black population.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean they're yeah, and if your goal was

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Speaker 22: to reach them, there probably were ways you could have

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Speaker 22: done it. But sort of this crude scheme of racial

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Speaker 22: preferences was not well, it's very.

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Speaker 20: I mean, this is somewhat of like a really cruel

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Speaker 20: and dark thought experiment. You could imagine a philosophy professor

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Speaker 20: or a morality ethics professor say, what if I had

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Speaker 20: a life saving drug, how should we distribute it to

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Speaker 20: the population?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Yeah, that's kind of what was on display, and

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Speaker 20: he's like, let's have a discussion about it today. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: and you see how that is actually put in practice, right,

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Speaker 20: And it was this fact sheet from what is so

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Speaker 20: Trova maab.

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Speaker 6: That's one of the monoclonal lange Okay, got it, Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Okay, got it. So you report this which is just

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Speaker 20: obviously like a ridiculous violation of the Civil Rights Act, right,

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Speaker 20: which has its problems, But and then they back off

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Speaker 20: and the Minnesota and Utah Health Utah that's a red state.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's really amazing how even in

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Speaker 22: Red states this stuff has spread very far. You see

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Speaker 22: this in universities too, where people have this idea that

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Speaker 22: the DEI programs are much worse at Ivy League schools

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Speaker 22: than they are at you know, public schools and Red states.

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Speaker 6: That is not true.

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Speaker 22: There's a great another journalist named John Saylor who's done

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Speaker 22: really good foil work foying just all of these red

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Speaker 22: state universities, and they put things in writing like, you know,

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Speaker 22: we don't want to hire a white man. I mean,

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Speaker 22: that's how exulted it is. And that's that's it in

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Speaker 22: Red states. So it's yes, it really any kind of

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Speaker 22: This is a bit of an over generalization, but generally

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Speaker 22: institutions that are not directly subject to the levers of

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Speaker 22: electoral power or that state governments have kind of taken

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Speaker 22: a hands off approach to.

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Speaker 12: That.

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Speaker 6: It got it hooks into all of them, right, is that?

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Speaker 20: What? What is it about wokeism? I hate that term

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Speaker 20: because it's overused that it just has to keep on

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Speaker 20: in fact, thing has to keep on spreading. It's like,

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Speaker 20: you guys ConTroll enough already control high would you co

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Speaker 20: throw the schools? You control the music, you control, you

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Speaker 20: control the NFL, But you also have to control our

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Speaker 20: monoclone antibody distribution. Right, It's like it's almost a It's

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Speaker 20: like an Islamic umah. You know, the umah in Islamic

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Speaker 20: theology is like the all covering of God. It's like

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Speaker 20: wocism must cover all society.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 22: Well, I mean one thing about wocism is that it

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Speaker 22: doesn't really acknowledge kind of a the distinction between the

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Speaker 22: public and private sphere.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 22: You hear people say everything is political, right, and so

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Speaker 22: all the institutions of civil society are seen as sites

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Speaker 22: of political contestation. I think that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 22: Look another this is changing now, But for a while,

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Speaker 22: when civil rights law was exclusively really used by the

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Speaker 22: left as kind of a tool of social engineering, that

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Speaker 22: was another thing, right, there were there were legal pressures

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Speaker 22: that I think how help accelerate and reinforce the woke takeover.

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Speaker 22: I don't want to reduce it all to that, but

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Speaker 22: like you know, hostile environment complaints, right, do you create

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Speaker 22: incentives for corporations to censor speech and to do these

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Speaker 22: sorts of trainings that morph into DEI I do think

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Speaker 22: that is changing now because there are new civil rights

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Speaker 22: enforcers in town, and they have adopted a very different

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Speaker 22: interpretation of the civil rights laws. And so we're seeing

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Speaker 22: now that the civil rights law does not necessarily have

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Speaker 22: to lead to wokeness. But I think that until the

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Speaker 22: rights sort of seesed the levers of the civil rights

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Speaker 22: state and started using it very aggressively, it just the

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Speaker 22: civil rights bureaucracies were all populated by progressives and that

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Speaker 22: was a big That was a big kind of bureaucratic

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Speaker 22: mechanism that puts.

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Speaker 20: You Yeah, I mean, and part of the civil rights

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Speaker 20: regime is built on disparate impact, which is yes, can

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Speaker 20: can you comment on that?

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Speaker 23: Yes?

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Speaker 22: I think that's a big problem. So for for many years,

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Speaker 22: you know, although quotas were officially outlawed, there was this

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Speaker 22: concept called disparate impact, which is that if you do

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Speaker 22: a kind of race blind test employment test, but it

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Speaker 22: has a disparate impact, you know, more whites than blacks

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Speaker 22: past the test, then the test unless you can prove,

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Speaker 22: like beyond a reasonable doubt basically that it is sort

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Speaker 22: of essential that it is like, you know, inextricably tied

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Speaker 22: to the job qualification, so that this is really the

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Speaker 22: only way to assess people unless you can prove that,

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Speaker 22: which is very high bar. The test was basically unlawful, right,

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Speaker 22: and it was considered discriminatory. And now that is starting

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Speaker 22: to be changed because President Trump is issued in executive

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Speaker 22: order revoking one of his most employabil YEP going after

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Speaker 22: disparate impact. It's possible that some of those Supreme Court

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Speaker 22: cases that kind of solidified this concept will get overturned,

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Speaker 22: depending on what the litigation is. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 22: for many years there was this this phrase called goals

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Speaker 22: and timetables, where the government would say, well, you know,

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Speaker 22: you don't have to you don't have to adopt quotas,

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Speaker 22: you just have to have goals and a timetable for

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Speaker 22: reaching them, and you know, if you don't, that could

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Speaker 22: be evidence of unlawful discriminat We're not saying it is evidence,

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Speaker 22: it just could be. And so, of course in practice

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Speaker 22: that means that you kind of do have to have

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Speaker 22: at least some approximate racial balance, which leads to some

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Speaker 22: of these discriminatory policies.

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Speaker 20: Continuing on the whole medical theme, you have another story

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Speaker 20: that was published in May of last year, which is

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Speaker 20: a failed medical school how racial preferences supposedly outlawed in

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Speaker 20: California have persisted at UCLA. Yes, so this is kind

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Speaker 20: of connecting. This is a what happened at UCLA.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so at UCLA, to my knowledge, this is maybe

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Speaker 22: the first time this has ever happened. That multiple members

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Speaker 22: of the admissions committee basically came to me and told

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Speaker 22: me anonymously about the affirmative action they were doing, and

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Speaker 22: provided various emails and even some internal data that kind

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Speaker 22: of backed up that there was a lot of racial.

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Speaker 6: Preferences going on.

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Speaker 22: And the reason they came forward was that they I

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Speaker 22: just thought it was intrinsically unjust, but be they were

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Speaker 22: really worried because they were seeing medical students start to

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Speaker 22: really fail basic tests of medical competence and show up

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Speaker 22: to their clinical rotations not knowing anything, not knowing anything.

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Speaker 22: That's what one of them told me, almost verbatim. And

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Speaker 22: I would note that none of the whistleblowers, I would say,

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Speaker 22: struck me as particularly conservative. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 22: anyone involved in this story, no, no one was worried

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Speaker 22: about this was wearing a mega hat. I'm sure they

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Speaker 22: all voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are almost

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Speaker 22: all of them did, right, But they were worried because

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Speaker 22: they just saw kids showing up and they couldn't, you know,

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Speaker 22: name basic arteries and stuff.

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Speaker 6: And they were.

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Speaker 22: Right right, and they were failing these things called the

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Speaker 22: shelf exams, which you take after each clinical rotation. There

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Speaker 22: were some cohorts where like fifty percent of the kids

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Speaker 22: would fail, and that that had never happened before. There

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Speaker 22: was a huge spike in the failure rate on these exams.

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Speaker 22: And this all happened after a kind of new Dean

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Speaker 22: of Admissions came in and really pushed the DEI very aggressively.

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Speaker 20: So your reporting says up to half of UCLA medical

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01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 20: students now fail basic test well of medical.

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Speaker 22: Com Yeah, it's not half of all UCLA medical students.

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Speaker 22: What it is is basically there in each clinical rotation.

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Speaker 22: It's a little hard to eximent. Basically, basically, there were

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Speaker 22: certain classes at UCLA, certain rotations where like half of

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Speaker 22: the kids and that small cohort were failing, and you know,

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Speaker 22: and then you also see that the overall failure rate

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 22: goes from like very low to something closer to like

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Speaker 22: twenty or twenty five percent.

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Speaker 6: So there's a change over time.

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Speaker 22: So you know, look, probably the average graduate of UCLA

1541
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 22: Medical schoo is still very good, but there are far

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 22: more people who are not up to snuff than there

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 22: used to be. And that's really what those statistics are captual.

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Speaker 20: What are the implications of those.

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Speaker 6: I mean, well, you know the obvious one as well.

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 20: You know, someone they take through and then they take

1547
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 20: your appendix.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, that's the kind of here, that's the

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Speaker 22: nightmare scenario. I mean, I mean, the other thing that

1550
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 22: may happen is that some of the folks graduated, they

1551
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 22: may be good enough to be very basic kind of

1552
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 22: primary care doctors and competent at sort of more basic

1553
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 22: fields of medicine, but they're not going to go into

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 22: high level research. And the problem with that is part

1555
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 22: of how medicine advances and and what these schools are

1556
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 22: supposed to do is to be engines of medical innovation.

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Speaker 6: And so if all of the.

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Speaker 22: Schools do this sort of heavy affirmative action and fewer

1559
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 22: and fewer of the graduates are really qualified to do

1560
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 22: the kind of cutting edge research that pushes the frontiers

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 22: of medicine, you know, you may not see it's not

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Speaker 22: necessarily that the surgeons are going to like kill you.

1563
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 22: I mean, that might happen, but I think that's that's

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01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 22: probably not really the main concern, at least in the

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Speaker 22: immediate term. That the deeper concern is that you just

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 22: see this kind of slow and hard to quantify, but

1567
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 22: nonetheless very real decline in kind of the quality of academy.

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Speaker 20: I mean, but we all see it. I mean, I

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 20: have friends in Cedar Sinai Hospital and they might have

1570
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 20: graduates from the UCLA Medical School. Is the usal and

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 20: medical school good? Is it considered to be competitive?

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Speaker 6: It's considered very competitive, Yes, and so I've.

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Speaker 20: Seen it theater Sidam. Some of these nurses are kind

1574
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 20: of like space cadets at times. I don't want to

1575
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Speaker 20: insult them, you have to wonder, I mean, and everybody

1576
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 20: knows this that the quality of hospital care has gone

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Speaker 20: down in the last twenty years. It's just just anecdotally.

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Speaker 23: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: And the other thing I would say too, that that

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01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 22: there's another dynamic here, which is maybe only say twenty

1581
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 22: percent of the kids are really struggling and the rest

1582
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Speaker 22: are fine. But because you don't want to flunk those

1583
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1584
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 22: for everyone to avoid the post twenty percent flunking out.

1585
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Speaker 22: And so the pop kids don't get the same quality

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Speaker 22: of education. So they might still be good, but they

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Speaker 22: won't be as good.

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Speaker 20: impact dot com. You have to wonder, I mean, and

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Speaker 20: everybody knows this that the quality of hospital care has

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01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 20: gone down the last twenty years. It's just just anecdotally.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: And the other thing I would say to you that

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01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 22: there's another dynamic here, which is maybe only say, twenty

1651
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 22: percent of the kids are really struggling and the rest

1652
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 22: are fine. But because you don't want to flunk those

1653
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 22: bottom twenty percent, you have to make the classes easier

1654
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 22: for everyone to avoid the bottom twenty percent flunking out.

1655
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 22: And so the pop kids don't get the same quality

1656
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 22: of education. So they might still be good, but they

1657
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 22: won't be as good, right, And so there's this kind

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 22: of progressive mediocritization of the medical profession driven by this

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 22: sort of bottom twenty percent dragging kids.

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Speaker 20: So I got I have to read this. This is

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Speaker 20: this is one of my favorite paragraphs.

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Speaker 4: I just saw this.

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Speaker 20: Led by Lucero, who you introduced earlier in the piece.

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Speaker 20: She also serves or I think it's as the I

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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 20: think she right as the vice chair of the Equity,

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Speaker 20: Diversity and Inclusion of UCLA's Anesthesiology department. So let me

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01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 20: just understand. So the practice of administering general anesthesia, which

1668
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 20: is incredibly important. People die way too much, and thankfully

1669
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 20: we're one of the leaders in the world. What is

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01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 20: the is the Admissions committee routinely gives black and Latino

1671
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 20: applicants a pass for subpar metrics. For people who served

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01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 20: on it said, while whites and Asians need perfect scores

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01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 20: to be considered. What is the like steal man that

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 20: argument for me? Why does an anesthesiology department need a

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01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 20: DEI office?

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01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 6: That argument's pretty hard to steal man.

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 20: I mean, I mean at some point, I mean, you're

1678
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 20: super smart, you went to Yale, You're part of the

1679
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 20: debate club. What is the argument for that? We're trying

1680
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 20: to figure out, you know, we need your body weight

1681
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 20: when you to figure out how long you know, the

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01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 20: mixture of these very very powerful chemicals.

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Speaker 22: The argument you would hear is that somehow the white

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01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 22: anesthesiologist we have implicit bias, and so if we don't

1685
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 22: correct the implicit biases, we won't really get the most

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01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 22: qualified anesthesiologists.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look like it's it's silly.

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 20: So it's silly, It's just it just collapses. But this

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01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 20: you pointed on something so implicit bias. That would be

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01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 20: their argument probably, or the argument would be like, hey,

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01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 20: a white anesthesiologists, they don't know the struggle of a

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01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 20: black woman they're about to put under, and so you

1693
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 20: know she needs someone that knows the struggle of being

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01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 20: a black one. I'm sorry, you're administering drug to go

1695
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 20: under surgery? Don't you want the best?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 20: I mean, but definitionally, don't you want you can die

1698
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 20: under general anesthesia? It's very high stakes?

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01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 22: Yes, yes, I mean, And this has always been the

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 22: kind of canonical argument against racial preferences, right, well, do

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 22: you know, do you care if your surgeon is black?

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01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 20: But it's in front of us?

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01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 7: I mean, you know.

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Speaker 22: There's another detail in the story where she apparently, according

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01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 22: to at least one or two people, said that when

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01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 22: they do residency admissions, which is a different thing that's

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01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 22: for when they're actually admitting basically like trainy doctors who

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01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 22: already graduated medical school, they have this sort of rank

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01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 22: list of who they want to admit, and she advocated

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01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 22: for bumping a white candidate down many slots because she thought, wow,

1711
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 22: we already have you know, enough white people, and I don't.

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01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 22: I think that ultimately was reversed, but still, I mean,

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01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 22: she was explicitly saying, we should, you know, move the

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01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 22: rank of different candidates around based on race, to do

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01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 22: you and these and the residents would be actually performing anesthesiology.

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 20: So yeah, I just again, of all, the place of

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01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 20: de I office. If you want to have the de

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01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 20: I office at the Department of Labor, I'm gonna fight that,

1719
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 20: but you can maybe make like a strong antisthesiology.

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01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, not not where I would put it, Not where I.

1721
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 20: Would put a d That's that's if anything other than

1722
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 20: making sure the patient wakes up is the mission statement

1723
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 20: of anesthesiology department? Uh no good. After a Native American

1724
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 20: applicant was rejected in twenty twenty one, Lucero chewed out

1725
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 20: the committee and made members sit through a two hour

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 20: lecture on Native history. What is this all about? So

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01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 20: there was a struggle session administered by this DEI anesthesiologies

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01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 20: are yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 6: And I think I think that struggle session was was

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01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 6: if I remember.

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01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 20: Sister, Yeah, that's right. I'm sorry, Native Americ history delivered

1732
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Speaker 20: by her own sister.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so I yeah, And again you know it's also

1734
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 22: that this is the other thing. It's just a time

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01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 22: suck too, Like there's I mean, you know, we haven't

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Speaker 22: even gotten to what they did to their curriculum at UCLA,

1737
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Speaker 22: which was to make all the kids take a required

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Speaker 22: structural Racism and Health Equity class. And in that class,

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Speaker 22: I mean they literally learned. One of the readings said

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Speaker 22: that fat phobia was medicine status quo and said that

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Speaker 22: the concept of obesity enact violence on fat people.

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Speaker 20: The more with Andrew and Aaron Siberian tomorrow talk to

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Speaker 20: you then, God bless see you soon.