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Speaker 1: The NBA All Star Weekend is the topic of conversation. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I went and got my credential. I'm gonna be there

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Speaker 1: all week all. I'm sorry about I'm still upset about

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Speaker 1: my situation. MONTI got turned down as well. So you

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Speaker 1: guys that all about? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe because

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Speaker 1: I've been covering the leak since nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Rob g oh No, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: some smoke when I see somebody.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be some smoke For Kevin Durant, That's what

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Speaker 4: Illy sure, because he after their game last night, a

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Speaker 4: lost to the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard aspire LLC and all

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Speaker 4: them boys went in there and put belt ask on

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Speaker 4: the rockets and after the game, of course, the All

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Speaker 4: Star Game is coming up in about seventy two hours.

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Speaker 3: All Star weekend starts.

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Speaker 4: In about a day and a half, yep, and everybody's

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Speaker 4: talking about like, hey, how are we going to fix

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Speaker 4: the All Star Game this new form, what are we

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Speaker 4: gonna do? And ultimately what it seems to come down

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Speaker 4: to is if guys just play hard, we'll have a

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Speaker 4: great All Star Game experience. Well, Kevin Durant was asked

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Speaker 4: about that last night, and he seemed to take it

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Speaker 4: kind of personally. Take a listen, I saw you saw

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Speaker 4: the rosters were revealed and said, you're on the Old

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Speaker 4: Heads team.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the Old Heads will compete and try

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Speaker 3: to win the whole tournament?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 6: You should ask the Europeans if the world team they're

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Speaker 6: gonna compete.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because we.

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Speaker 6: Look at Luka, Doncis and NICOLEA Jokis. Now let's go

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Speaker 6: back and look at what they do at the All

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Speaker 6: Star Game, at that competition, so we have a question

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Speaker 6: what they've been doing. But we're gonna question old his

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Speaker 6: in the Americans. But these two dudes out there, Luca

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Speaker 6: and Jokis, they don't care about the game.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: Oh, these dudes be laying on the floor or they

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Speaker 6: shoot from half court. But you got worried about the

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Speaker 6: old heads playing hard. I can read between the lines, Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you and you could read between the lines,

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Speaker 1: and you be wrong because guess what what, even before

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Speaker 1: those guys showed up and became what's called this has

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Speaker 1: stopped a long time ago. This didn't stop since Luca

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Speaker 1: and the Jokers showed up.

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Speaker 3: You guys have stopped playing way before that. You really have.

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Speaker 3: When when Lebron checked.

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Speaker 1: Out of this, you know what I mean, and people

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Speaker 1: follow the leader unless he's the face of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: When he checked out of this, a lot of players

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Speaker 1: checked out. They didn't want to compete. People told you,

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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday when Kobe picked up Lebron at

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Speaker 1: full at at the half court right, and Lebron immediately

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Speaker 1: gave up the ball and was like, I want no

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Speaker 1: part of this, dude.

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Speaker 7: Was that was strange? That was All Star game in sided.

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Speaker 7: Kobe slaps the ground, He's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 7: Everybody stands up, even the players stood up on the bench.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's see our moment. What what he passed?

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Speaker 7: They didn't double team on nothing. That was strange, Camdany.

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Speaker 1: But but that's where I think Kevin Durant is missing

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Speaker 1: the point is that uh NBA fans have felt cheated

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Speaker 1: for a while now, and it ain't gonna be the

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Speaker 1: European the Johnny cum latelies, they're a big part of

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Speaker 1: the league. I get what Kevin Durant's saying. They don't

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Speaker 1: set the tone. The American players set the tone in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. KD, what are you talking about? Can you

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Speaker 1: replay any interviews from Luka Doncic or from the Joker.

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Speaker 3: They're not saying anything about the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Nobody goes and ask them what why? It's about the

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Speaker 1: American players. You set the standard. This is an American league.

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Speaker 1: If you were playing in Europe, they wouldn't go to

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Speaker 1: UKD and ask you this is about America. And and

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Speaker 1: this is why you get the smoke. This is your league.

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Speaker 1: This is our league in the United States. Even in

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Speaker 1: the baseball nobody's going to Old Tani to ask him

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Old Tohani, why aren't they black fans in the stands?

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Speaker 3: Oh? He definitely gonna get interpreted for that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's not how it works.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, don't pass the buck. Answer the damn question, KD.

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Speaker 1: Stop passing the buck to guys who came over to

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Speaker 1: this country just to play basketball. They didn't invent the league.

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Speaker 1: You guys gave up the league. You stop having passion,

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Speaker 1: you stop playing hard.

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Speaker 3: You gave up the MVP.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had an MVP and American MVP since the

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Speaker 1: Louisi had a purchase. You got the nerve that want

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Speaker 1: to pass the buck. Own it if you want to

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Speaker 1: do it. Tell the fans blank you, we don't care

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Speaker 1: about you, because that's the message that the fans got.

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Speaker 1: They're not running to Luca or gonna run to the

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Speaker 1: to the Joker and say what about.

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Speaker 3: You guy from Europe? How come you're not playing hard?

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Speaker 1: Because when you checked out KD and all of your contemporaries,

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Speaker 1: that's when the rest of the league checked out.

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Speaker 3: If you took the.

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Speaker 1: Game seriously, you think the Joker and Luca would get

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Speaker 3: And not play.

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Speaker 7: That's the part right there, Rod, That's the part I agree.

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Speaker 7: If you watch Luca, Luca looks lazy as ever out there.

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Speaker 7: We all know Joker rather be with his horses. However,

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Speaker 7: there are twenty four guys give or taken an All

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Speaker 7: if the other twenty two were playing that top you

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Speaker 7: know for you know, three quarters effort, absolutely they would falling,

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Speaker 7: lie or you know what they would do. Coach, I

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Speaker 7: they can set the tone. And a couple of things too.

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Speaker 7: We talk about this all the time. Right now, it's

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Speaker 7: the Winner Olympics on TV. Let me tell you a

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Speaker 7: country that don't play about their particular sport, Canada. What

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Speaker 7: sport don't they play about rob They don't play about hockey.

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Speaker 7: That's their sport. They take it very seriously and they

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Speaker 7: they want to play. So, yes, I get his point

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Speaker 7: that Luca's one of the best players, and Yo kich

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Speaker 3: However, you all set the tone. This is an American game.

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Speaker 7: There's a reason why those guys even play because we

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Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, that's how you get

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Speaker 7: all these baby birthday and in Yo Kich and Lucas

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Speaker 7: and so on. So absolutely, Katie, he knows what people

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Speaker 3: So he knows what people are asking for.

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Speaker 7: Is what we see every summer on my YouTube's and

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Speaker 7: my instagrams, and what's that rop what I see at

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Speaker 7: UCLA pickup games, what we see at the Rutger games

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Speaker 7: when KD pulls up, what we say all these summer

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Speaker 7: league games and lifetime fitness, and what we're saying is

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Speaker 7: elite competition. That's all people are asking for. They want

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Speaker 7: people to go in there and compete. Nobody's asking you

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Speaker 7: we see him playing the summers, we see him playing

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Speaker 7: in league after league, So you know what we're asking for.

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Speaker 7: You all set the tone, especially the old head because

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Speaker 7: you guys are the last leaders before you guys call

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Speaker 4: There was a big tray that happened last week before

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Speaker 4: the deadline. It involved none other than Moncey's favorite player

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Speaker 4: on the formerly a Los Angeles Clippers, James Harden. Got

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Speaker 4: dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers and James, they've been pretty

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Speaker 4: good since he's got there. They're scoring pretty at a

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Speaker 4: great catching love from James Harden. He played his first

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Speaker 4: home game for the Cavs earlier this week, and after

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Speaker 4: the game, he was asked about the idea of loyalty

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Speaker 4: because he's bounced around from team the team over the

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Speaker 4: last few years, and his answer raised some eyebrows.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen, and.

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Speaker 9: The whole quote unquote loyalty thing is I think it's overrated.

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Speaker 9: I think this is a business at the end of

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Speaker 9: the day, and it's a lot of involved and a

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Speaker 9: lot of decisions that has to be made, you know

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Speaker 9: what I mean. So like if a player isn't producing,

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Speaker 9: or if you don't see the future, or you know,

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Speaker 9: front office, so after a job and want to keep

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Speaker 9: the job, you know, so they got to I feel

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Speaker 9: like they got to do his best for you to

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Speaker 9: keep their job. And they trade players or if a

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Speaker 9: guysn't happy, they wants to be traded to somewhere else.

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Speaker 9: And it's a problem, just some different going to it.

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Speaker 9: This is a business at the end of today. So

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Speaker 9: like you know, I'm just saying, but like people that

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Speaker 9: have normal jobs have you know, have those same problems.

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Speaker 9: It's just not magnified.

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Speaker 1: Uh can I say this, Yeah, James Harden, Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: because you guys want to play too long.

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Speaker 3: They used to be the the loyalty thing.

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Speaker 1: People played twelve or thirteen years and they played for

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Speaker 1: one team. Isaiah Thomas played for the Pistons, right, Joe

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Speaker 3: Well you know, I was.

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Speaker 5: Let's let let's just go ahead and go in the back.

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Speaker 7: You are, I told you it's been a wild day already.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's go all right, where do you want

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Speaker 5: We'll be there saving me All Star weekend?

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Speaker 10: Find of thing I mean honestly, because I think about

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Speaker 5: Star Weekend was the dunk contest.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I'm fifty years old now, right, so if I.

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Speaker 5: But you think about this, right, that is what is

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Speaker 5: Like, it comes to a point where it's gonna lose

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Speaker 5: I mean that sounds fantastic. That's like we could have

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Speaker 5: said this years ago. Lebron was it is?

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Speaker 3: I know, I know that's just not I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, that's not the case. Like, tell me what, let's

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Speaker 5: be honest here, Let's be honest.

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Speaker 10: What is the motivation for Samarant or Zion?

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Speaker 3: There is none?

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Speaker 5: You're right, but w't amazing for them to do it?

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Speaker 1: And Jean, but other than in that day and age

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Speaker 1: and this is it was to promote the sport. That's

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Speaker 1: what this is supposed to be for the fans, and

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Speaker 1: they've lost sight of that. They don't care, or don't

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Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't even feel like you

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Speaker 1: need to play because people paid four hundred dollars for

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Speaker 1: tickets for their family.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, and you don't you don't feel like I have

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Speaker 3: to play?

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Speaker 2: I agree, How in the world did you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like you're going to debate the promote the game?

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Speaker 10: You know, the biggest difference for me from we're talking

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Speaker 10: about Dominique and Michael Jordan and all that they did

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Speaker 10: back in the nineties, and you can go back to

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Speaker 10: Isaiah Thomas and Matthec Johnson and Larry Burg. You know,

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Speaker 10: the biggest difference those guys weren't making forty fifty sixty

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Speaker 10: and seventy million dollars dollar.

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Speaker 3: That's the challenge right there when you got so much money.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, and I know it's on

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Speaker 1: a different but the Baseball Star a game and you

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Speaker 1: know I love baseball has not changed. And guys don't

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Speaker 1: throw slow uh, guys don't not participate.

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Speaker 3: Got Aaron Judge has been in the home run contest.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest home run hitters ever and

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Speaker 1: he's won of it a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: My point is that that in July. That's for baseball.

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Speaker 3: That's that. That's that night.

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Speaker 1: You tune in and you watch it, and those guys

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Speaker 1: still play, and they make a lot of money. Otani's

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Speaker 1: making seven.

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Speaker 5: So no, I can tell you the thing I'm not

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Speaker 5: big on.

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Speaker 10: I'm not big on comparing in contrasting sports, and I'm

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Speaker 10: not big on comparing in contrasting sports to nine to five.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I get that. But I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: those guys make a ton of money. And Otani would

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Speaker 1: never bow out from the All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: It just it wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 5: That wouldn't completely.

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Speaker 10: That's a completely different sport and a completely different game, totally.

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Speaker 10: Do you know what you don't do in a Baseball

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Speaker 10: All Star Game?

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Speaker 3: Run?

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Speaker 5: You don't have contact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but but Antonio, I'll push back. Give me the

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Speaker 1: big injury that you had an All Star Game with

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Speaker 1: some guy career was ruined because you can't give one.

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Speaker 5: I can't I can't have one.

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Speaker 3: Can't give me one.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you can't give me one.

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Speaker 1: And that and that's not the reason that they're not playing.

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Speaker 1: They use they used that as an excuse.

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Speaker 10: That's not the reason that they're not playing hard is

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Speaker 10: because they're making fifty sixty.

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Speaker 3: It is because they don't care.

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Speaker 1: It's because they don't care about the fans, because it's

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Speaker 1: about the fans. And that's where that's the disconnect, is

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Speaker 1: that they don't care.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 10: I will say this though, and this isn't never a

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Speaker 10: big different than the two, because I do we we

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Speaker 10: had this conversation a week ago on our show about

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Speaker 10: the disconnect between players and fans because you know what else,

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Speaker 10: Michael Jordan and those guys didn't have to deal with

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Speaker 10: social media.

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Speaker 3: I got that is the game is.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay. But so what I'm saying is this, Michael.

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Speaker 10: Jordan's didn't truly know what fans like FLTs about him.

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Speaker 5: But think about like a guy like Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: I think you, Antonio, I think you're giving those guys,

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Speaker 1: you're letting them off the hook if you don't understand

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Speaker 1: what the how the game was built and what this

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Speaker 1: does for fans that used to be the hot.

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Speaker 3: The hottest thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you notice the All Star Game with the hottest weekend,

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Speaker 1: bigger than the Baseball Hollstar Game, bigger than the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: And it's not there anymore.

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Speaker 2: People don't even know.

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Speaker 10: I'm simply talking about the disconnect between players and fans

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Speaker 10: because now with through social media, fans have accept the players.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 5: Now you can hear I can hear all the hate.

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Speaker 1: But on the flip side, on the flip side, you

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Speaker 1: hear all Lebron fans who or who will stand up

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Speaker 1: for Lebron and no matter what he does or says.

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Speaker 1: So on the flip side, that's nice. But he has

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Speaker 1: all these followers and they all love him, and they

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Speaker 1: they all come and they all come to attack anybody.

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Speaker 1: They're all attached to all my videos. But so I

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Speaker 1: get the hate, but they also get to love and

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Speaker 1: they get a chance to talk to those fans.

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Speaker 3: Directly without having to go through the sportscasters.

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Speaker 10: Let me ask you about the question growing up. If

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Speaker 10: you look back at your life, do you remember things

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Speaker 10: that were said to you that were encouraging or things

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Speaker 10: that were said to you that we're getting.

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Speaker 3: No, you we already know. I tell people all the time.

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Speaker 7: You could if you post an Instagram picture and ninety

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Speaker 7: nine people said, wow, you look good. Why that's nice?

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Speaker 7: And the one person that it is ugly? You need

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Speaker 7: to take it down. That's what that's going to get

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Speaker 7: your attention.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I can still remember to this day things that were

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Speaker 5: said to me in high school when I was five to.

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Speaker 10: Two about where my basketball career would go. There were

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Speaker 10: a million people along the way that told me I

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Speaker 10: would make it. I can tell you the name of

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Speaker 10: certain guys in high school that.

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Speaker 5: Told me I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's human nature.

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Speaker 5: Always remember the negative.

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying the positive doesn't doesn't happen, but stands,

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Speaker 10: which is what you're talking about. Is completely different than

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Speaker 10: the hate that some of these guys did.

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Speaker 1: I just think you owe something to the game and

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Speaker 1: to promote the game is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: And you can't give them one night because on the

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Speaker 1: summer they go to the basketball and they play the

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Speaker 1: ball out at U c l A. In the summer,

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Speaker 1: they don't play like that, and so so when they

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Speaker 1: tell me they don't want to get hurt, and nobody

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Speaker 1: playing like that in the summer. When they go to

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Speaker 1: these places and play in these gyms and have their

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Speaker 1: games in the offseason, nobody plays like.

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Speaker 5: But into their to to I agree with what you're saying,

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Speaker 5: but I will also saying the other end Rob guys

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Speaker 5: ain't playing like that no more.

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Speaker 3: That's a shame. That's a shame, playing like.

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Speaker 5: What's your referencing right now? Like I had this conversation

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Speaker 5: with our training staff a week ago, guys are not

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Speaker 5: playing the way.

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Speaker 3: They that's right.

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Speaker 5: Ready.

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Speaker 3: Thank you mentioned you as always, Thanks for the commos

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Speaker 3: appreciated fellas