1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, November two. This is Jeff Bars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: And now a guy who's willing to change his name 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: jam Meta for a price. J Pace Shad. I'll do 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: a lot of things for a price, and welcome in. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick Jeff Loghman coming up. 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: We've got a busy show head, of course, busy two 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: hours I had, in fact, Jaguars Happy Hour. Here at 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: four o'clock, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman joins US Eats Tuesday, 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: will recap week eate. We'll put a bow on thirty 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: one to seven Seahawks over the Jaguars, and then we'll 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: look ahead to Week nine. It's the NFL. No games 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: are easy, but this one's really tough. The Bills are 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: coming to town. The top team one of well, you 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: could argue to the top team the a FC right now, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: the top scoring offense, the number one overall defense, the 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: most takeaways in the league. The Bills come here. We'll 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: take an early look at that one, and then at 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: five o'clock, Jaguars radio network coverage begins with the Urban 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: Meyer Show. From five to six, Head coach Irman Meyer 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: will join us. We'll get his final thoughts on the 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: lawstin Seattle and some of the early work looking ahead 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills. Jeff Logingman with us. Now, good 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: afternoon to you. Jeff. What's up man? It's all good, 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: j P. It's all good except for the film that 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: is not good. It's mostly good except for the film 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: was It was a tough game, and uh, you kind 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: of got into uh. I think you know, the the 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: bye week, Doldrum's coming back, trying to find your groove 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of coming back, and then you got a west coast trip. 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: You put those two together, and I think you can 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: have a recipe for poor performance. And that's exactly what 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: they had. Why is that? I mean, it's a bye week. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: You should come back refreshed and ready and and eager 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: to go. You got guys coming off the injury list, 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: and and let's go, let's play some ball. Why is 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: the theory that sounds great? But the reality is is 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: that when you encounter a bye week, sometimes you get 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: healthy and you get better. But it's not like this 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: team was beat up that much before the bye week. 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: But the reality is is that you get out of 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: your routine and so sometimes when you get out of 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: your routine, you're like, Okay, you have a little bit 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: of a hard time finding your groove. And then next 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: thing you know, you're traveling to the West Coast on 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: a Friday, and now the routine is even disrupted a 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: little bit more because you're traveling on a Friday, and 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: so it's just different. And uh, I had had a 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: bad feeling about this game, and it came to fruition. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: The offense struggled, the defense struggled, and the penalties came 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: back as well. Miscommunication return. That was a real key 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: back in the week one loss, of course to Houston. 52 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer addressed it all on Monday. We also had 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: turnover and the turnover is negated by a penalty. Just 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: lack of discipline, sloppy play. You have the twelve men 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: issue where one penalty and one time out. You know 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I needed that, We needed that time out, So we 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: have to get that correctedtors I was really upset about that. 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I should never happen. Um, So we addressed that today. 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: UM and that offense. You had the delayed games, which 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: is very uncharacteristic of Trevor and and so we just 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: got to give them more opportunities to practice and and uh, 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: and get the plays in faster. I mean, it's accumulative. 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: It's not just Trevor, it's you know. And then also 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: the substitution of receivers would cause to that as well. 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: So so you just, yeah, I'm very upset about that. 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: That's that's not winning football doesn't have twelve penalties. Twelve 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: penalties ninety three yards. And as you heard him discussed there, 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll we'll ask him about this and 69 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: the Rban Meyers show coming up a little later and 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: see if they've delved into a little further. The twelvemen 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: on the field followed up by nearly another twelvement on 72 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the field before the snap, they had to call a 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: time out to avoid a second one in a row. Yeah, 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: that's there's no there's no excuse, man. And and here 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: here's the reality he talked about. Urban talked about the 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: turnover that was negated by a penalty. I don't think 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Gino Smith throws that ball unless he realizes that penalty. 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: So in reality, it's not like he really got to 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: take away. So Gino is being aggressive. He knows that 80 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: he's got Caleb and Chays on off side Aaron Rodgers, Right, 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: So I mean that's not that's not really a fair 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: assessment of that. But I think the disappointing thing is 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: that you had too rough in the passer calls where 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: you finished the quarterback into the into the turf. They 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: were the right call, totally correct calls according to the rules. 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: J Davon Hamilton and John Ward totally guilty. You got 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: a taunting penalty by Ray Shawn Jenkins. That's the second 88 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: one I think of the year. It is so uh, 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: twelve men on the field back to back, no excuse 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: for that. I think the disappointing thing is that throughout 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the game you had kind of something bad happened, whether 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: it be every offensive series is or every defensive series, 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: and you had a couple of series where something bad 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But I make notes during the game, and 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: you've got the roughing call on Devon Hamilton's you had 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: a uh two drives later, the interception by Digs. They're 97 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: very talented safety. By the way, he's a really good 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: football player. Because he had a miscommunication by Tavon Austin 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. Then you have a taunting by Rayshawn 100 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Jake and right on downs, you've got twelve been on 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: the field twice, which also has Caleb and Chays on 102 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: all sides on that same drive. I mean, there's just 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: so many different things that that you go, what are 104 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: you what are you doing? I mean, it's just a 105 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: lot of noise. It's a bad day at the office, 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: There's no two ways about it. And it's one that 107 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: you certainly say bad performance by the players, and then 108 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: you also have to say that's not a very good 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: performance by the coach staff either. And and I'll say 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: this the thing that I did not like at the 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: end of the game, score a touchdown, you kick the 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: extra point, and then you go for two. And I 113 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: know that coach talked about it in this press conference 114 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: and said that, look, it was an opportunity at getting 115 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: reps on that. Let me just say this about that, 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: when you score a touchdown, you go for two, So 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: then it still can be and if you get that, 118 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: then you can still keep it a two possession game. 119 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: It's a sixteen point game, rights, so then you can 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: go for the onside kick, you don't kick the extra point, 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: still have a three possession game, and then choose to 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: do the onside kick because you want to practice it, 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: because here's the reality, that's the most dangerous playing football 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: is the onside kick. You don't practice the most dangerous 125 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: playing football because you want to try it out, or 126 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: you want to try to steal another possession on offense. 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: If you're gonna if you're gonna do that, you have 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: to go for two before that. If you make it 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: going for two, then you go for the onside kick. 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: And if you get it, okay, if you don't, if 131 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: you don't convert the two point conversion, then you do 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: not attempted on side kick just to steal possession. It 133 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: becomes absolutely for no reason at that point, okay, I mean, 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and guys are putting their bodies out there, and it's 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: probably why JP. You know, it's probably why he had 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: the return for the touchdown on the on side kick. 137 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Did you get the impression that guys were throwing their 138 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: bodies around on this onside kick at that point because 139 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the score is what it is that I mean, there's 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna be guys making a business decision. They're not gonna 141 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: put their head in there and go dive after the 142 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: football right now. I mean, that's why the running back 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: and uh it was Travis Homer who ended up taking 144 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: it all the way back for a touchdown. And so anyway, 145 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you my thoughts on that 146 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: because I wanted to volunteer. So, how do you, for 147 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, circle of wagons again, you know, 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: get the coaching staff and players back on the same 149 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: page and eliminate a lot of these communication things you said, 150 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: it's yeah, players when they're on the field, as Tony 151 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: was silly said last night, Hey, if you're the twelfth guy, 152 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you gotta look around. Hey, you're in my spot and 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: talk to each other and get off the field. He's 154 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna leave or And at what point does that become 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: The coaches can only go so far on the field, 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: but you still have to coach them, coach that out 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: of them, like there's a balance there. I thought it was. 158 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: It was kind of comical when you watch the film back, okay, 159 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: and they've got twelve guys on the field and you 160 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: had an extra defensive lineman. Okay, so I think it 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: was jahad Ward. He's he's literally he went from the 162 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: left side of the defensive line to the right side 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: and he's like, where am I gonna play? They're all 164 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: they're all taking So it's kind of funny. It wasn't funny, 165 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: but it was funny. You're watching and he's trying to 166 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: figure out where he can play. Wait, wait a minute, 167 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm one of the defensive linemen out here. Where where 168 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: where can I line up? And there was nowhere formal lineup. 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: So eventually he just puts his hand down and it 170 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: becomes a five down lineman situation and you just go 171 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: on and then you have the time out and then 172 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: you you it's happening again. I mean that that was like, 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Moment. Uh, what's the old 174 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: airline airline commercial? You want to get away? Right? Yeah? Sure, 175 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: you know one of those where Colgan take me away. 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: That is definitely one of those moments. By the way, 177 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: the trade deadline was four o'clock and no word of 178 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: anything from the Jaguars. So quiet at the deadline for 179 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: the Jags. So a couple of the big trades. Ingram 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh to go to Chiefs Kansas City, and then 181 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: von Miller goes to the Yes, that's a big one 182 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: for a second. Enough, that's all they have left by 183 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: the way, all the other one the Rams don't believe 184 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: in draft picks. The Rams are going all in right 185 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: now and after a couple three or four years if 186 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: they don't win, and it won't matter anyway for the well, 187 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: that's less neat less Need is. In fact less Need 188 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: was he was here back in and less Need was 189 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: essentially an errand guy, which he would do different things 190 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: in scouting, you know, and uh, and he's a nice guy, 191 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: and but he got a start here, was willing to 192 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: do anything. And now he's the general manager of the Rams, 193 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: and and he has him and the coach have done 194 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: a very good job. And I will say when I 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: say very good job, I think that's subject to interpretation. 196 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: But you can't argue with the results. But some people 197 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: would say you're not doing it and building the team 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: to make it lasting. They're trying to win. They're trying 199 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: to win now. They they thought they were about a 200 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: quarterback away, so they went and got the quarterback in 201 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the trade Stafford and now getting the pass rusher in. 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you put his contracts up at the end 203 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: of the year. If von Miller, if he if he 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: gets back to being von Miller, which he can still 205 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: do that. And you put him out on the field 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald together, Holy in the back end of 207 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: that defense too, Jalen n do all that. Yeah, I 208 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: mean it's tough. Hey, guess what. The Jacks get to 209 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: play them in about five weeks time in l A. 210 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: So we got that going for us so far. I 211 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: have I have never I've never seen a more dominant 212 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: defensive player in the National Football League in a long time. Now. 213 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking when Von's on, I'm talking no, 214 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm talking about Aaron Donald. Donald. Yes, yes, 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: he can take over the whole. I'm saying, you gotta 216 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: as a defensive lineman. Now you have to go back 217 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: to the Bruce Smith, the Reggie White, the and he's 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: better than John Randall, you know, I mean John Reynolds 219 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: great now, I mean those guys are are edge guys 220 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: though Donald's inside. John Randall was an inside guy. He 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: was a little old three technique kind of like Aaron 222 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: Donald is. Because when Aaron Donald was coming out, I 223 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: was looking at his his measurables, going, you know, I 224 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know about this guy being able to do it, 225 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: and uh, he's doing It's like the best in the 226 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: league and he's one of the best ever. I mean, 227 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: this guy is a he's a walking gold jacket shoeing 228 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald is There's no doubt about that. So for 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to have to figure out how to block 230 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, that's gonna be a huge challenge for them 231 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: in that game, no doubt. And then he throw a 232 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: Vin on the outside and yeah, here we go. Um, 233 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: by the way, that game is coming up at so 234 00:12:54,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: FI Stadium December Fiber about the December first or so. 235 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: We'll have plenty of time on this program to go 236 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: over those matchups because, um, there are a lot to 237 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: dissect in that anyway, that's down the line a little bit. 238 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Um if you know, this didn't seem just going into 239 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the last week or so like a team that would 240 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: really be too active unless there was somebody out there 241 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: that you could get for not just this year, but 242 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: two or three years down the line to stay the 243 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: hard part, that's that's the hard part. Those guys don't 244 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: come around and there aren't available to us. Trent Balky 245 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer are trying, you know, and you always 246 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: try to do this. You try to build something that's 247 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: sustainable and what sustainable means is that whoever you acquire 248 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be available not just for they're gonna 249 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: be available for next year two and then also and 250 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: so I think that's part of factoring in whether you 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: want to get a guy in the trade before the 252 00:13:53,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: trade diedline. Typically the it's a seller's market when you're 253 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: talking about the trade deadline. If you had von Miller, 254 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: would you and he's on a one year deal? I mean, 255 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: don't you think the Denver Broncos did pretty good getting 256 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: a second and a third? Yeah, because who knows if 257 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna really going to resign him at the end 258 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, that's a really I mean, so 259 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: it's a perfect example of it being a seller's market. 260 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: And from the Ramps perspective there in the hunt they 261 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,119 Speaker 1: need to win. We can afford this. That's typically who 262 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that they view it as that. 263 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: That's typically if you're in that position, then you view 264 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: that you maybe make a trade like that. But if 265 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: you're not, you've got to get a guy that's gonna 266 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: give you some type of commitment beyond this year. You know, 267 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna, like I said, help you in the next 268 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, not just this year. So and that's 269 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: that's hard to find sometimes. And then if you do 270 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: find a guy that a team is willing to trade for, 271 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: there is typically there's something there that hasn't made that 272 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: player has loved, you know what I mean, as far 273 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: as there's something wrong, there's some kind of I don't 274 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: know what you would call it, some type of glaring 275 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: wart or whatever you want to call it that the 276 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: player has. If I mean, because look at that's and 277 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: not all players have that, then they're not all covered up, 278 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: and maybe it's just not a full organizational fit. You know. 279 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just okay, let's move on from said player 280 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: and and start over. Hey, given give an example. Okay, 281 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: c J. Henderson was traded correct, Okay, perfect example, he 282 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: has he has a blemish gay. The reports Worth coach 283 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: and and one of the defensive coaches went to his 284 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: house to talk to him. They confirmed those which, yeah, 285 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: which they were talking to him supposedly about because he 286 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to play ball anymore. And has he played 287 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: that well for Carolina since the we got Dan Arnold 288 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: out of that trade, producing every week. So I think 289 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: my point about that is is that if there's a 290 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: guy that's willing to be traded two things. Because von 291 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Miller doesn't have any blemishes on him. He's a great player, 292 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: but the only drawback to him from the Denver BALCO's 293 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: perspective is how many more years can he play at 294 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: the level that he's at? Can can you make it 295 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: work from a cap perspective? And what is the team 296 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: that wants him willing to give us? They value a 297 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: second and a third round pick more than they value 298 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: a player who only has this year left on his deal, 299 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: especially if wherever they are in the standings right now. 300 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean Denver is you know, last play there four 301 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and four and they're chasing Vegas and the Chargers. I 302 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: mean it's a tight division, but no guarantees. Let's come 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: back defense for the Jaguars. We'll get into what happened 304 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: this past week. Gino Smith, your guy, it was hot, 305 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: red hot, white hot to start the game. Yeah. Well, uh, 306 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: he must have listened to the Free Game show. That's 307 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: why he might have. And if you were all over it, 308 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: well I just said he's not a very good quarterback. 309 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: Well he heard that. He took it personally. Still not 310 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up. P r I Productions, 311 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: the official event production company the Jags, has everything you 312 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: need to bring your next idea to life. Visit pr 313 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: I Productions dot com. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. In 315 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: this league, I should never happen, you know what I mean, 316 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: there's there's there's no excuse for that, there's no response. 317 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: We have to have better communication coming off the field, 318 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: and obviously it's a hectic environment. You know, there's d 319 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: lineman and there locked in trying to get to play, 320 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: and then this guy's running on. So it's got to 321 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: be a communication thing where if you are running on 322 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the field, you have to call. You gotta go one 323 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: for one. You can't just run on the field and 324 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: just say hey, it's my turn to play. So it's 325 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things, you know what I mean. It's 326 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: it's the time and other substitutions. Um, it's it's players 327 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: not communicating when they come in. So it's a total thing, 328 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's such an easy thing to fix, you know 329 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like it's something hard like 330 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: when you when you you know, raise your hand when 331 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: you're running in and you know who you're supposed to grab. 332 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: We're going from um base pert Jack personnel, the nickel personnel. 333 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Whoever the nickel is, he's gotta go run and grab 334 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: the Sam Like everybody knows what they're supposed to do 335 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: with just not doing it. So it's on Earth. 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That's 343 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Miles of course talking about the twelve men on the 344 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: field penalty in the near and next to when we've 345 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: gone through that, UM you know, coverage issues were there again. 346 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: There was all this talk about all we're gonna play 347 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: more zone now and you know they still it felt 348 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: like they were the Locket and Nett Kaffret just running open. 349 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: A lot of times, well, Lockett got separation, particularly when 350 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: he was being covered in man with Tyson Campbell. I mean, look, 351 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Locks a great player and he's uh one of the 352 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: top five guys in the National Football League at yards 353 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: per catch. He's got great speed, elite speed. So it 354 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: was Tyson Campbell, but he ran away from Tyson and 355 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: got separation. So and then when the Jaguars played zone, 356 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: he's pretty crafty about finding the opening. And that's he's 357 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: a great player. And what has happened prior to this 358 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: game against the Jaguars, Tyler Lockett hadn't gotten really much 359 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: of a connection with Geno Smith. No. In fact, the 360 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: numbers with which is kind of ridiculous. In the last 361 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: five games, Tyler Lockett had only had a hundred fifty 362 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: nine yards receiving and no touchdowns. In the first couple 363 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: of games of the season, he had two eight yards 364 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, and so there was no connection with 365 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: with Gino. But you know, it's just it's hard for 366 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: a defense. And I think the Jaguars coaching staff and 367 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: personnel probably over evaluated or should I say, I don't 368 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: know another way to put this, they overvalued what they 369 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: had in the back end. At the start of the year. 370 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: You're saying at the start of the years when the 371 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: ross was set. Okay, we're set with these guys and 372 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: here's why, right, And obviously that changed a little bit 373 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: with with c J. And then you have a rookie 374 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: who's clearly struggling enticon Campbell. But it's hard to go 375 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: from Okay, all of all season, all of training camp, 376 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: we're prepared to play man. We're gonna play man, and 377 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: you're practicing man, and you're practicing, you know, the blitzes 378 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: and the pressures and all that kind of stuff. And 379 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now you've said, well, you know, 380 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: we gotta be more zone. It's probably a little bit 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: easier to go from zone to man because it's easier 382 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: to practice or better to practice something that you gotta 383 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: Even with zone less, you have to relate to what 384 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: the routes are in his zone and man, it's man, 385 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: you're Jasonly going around right. So and if that man 386 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: is better than your man, then that man is gonna 387 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: win the man. And so I mean, in hindsight, which 388 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: hindsight is always I mean, I'm not trying to criticize 389 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff for the personnel staff here, but maybe 390 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: with hindsight and hindsight for everybody was said, you know what, 391 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: let's let's maybe just try to be balanced and that 392 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: way we're practicing both and then we'll see where we 393 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: go if if if we feel like we're playing pretty 394 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: well and we feel like we can play more man, 395 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll play a little bit more man if 396 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: we feel like we're not quite good enough talent wise, 397 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: and we'll play a little bit more zone. And that's okay. 398 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: But it didn't happen like that. They came out practicing 399 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: a lot of man, but that they look it's uh, 400 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Rome wasn't built overnight, now, you know. And the disappointing 401 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: thing is though that you know they're talking about rebuild. 402 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: That term has been used now this week and in 403 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: the off season. You signed the safety he's at a 404 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: corner and free agency and then you drafted a safety 405 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: and you drafted a corner. So I mean the rebuild 406 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: is I mean, you're right in the middle of it, 407 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: but I mean you would you were hoping for better 408 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: results now had a cornerstones of the rebuild at some point, 409 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you hope putting that kind of equity into it, you hope. 410 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: And then and they got a ways to go. You know, 411 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: they got a ways to go. I mean, Tyson's got 412 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: a lot of growth to make, to make and and 413 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: I think he'll make it. I think he's first of all, 414 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: he works hard, he's got this, he's got the physical toolbag. 415 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: You just gotta learn to play the ball better. Can 416 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: he do that at the level where you want him 417 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: to be? I mean, that's that's that's an interesting question 418 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: because when like when you watch Josh Allen, when Josh 419 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: Allen plays the game, he's very aware of the ball 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: and he finishes really well. Is this something that you 421 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: either have or you don't. And I've said this before, 422 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the finishing the ball awareness sometimes is something that confidence 423 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: will help build, that experience will help build that. But 424 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: then in some cases you either have it or you don't. 425 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on our Wednesday show on Jaguars dot Com 426 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times and said, you know, sometimes if 427 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: somebody has like a a baseball or basketball background, when 428 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: you have to play the ball, that if you play 429 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: outfield right depth balls coming at you, you get to 430 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: figure out I never could figure that out right as 431 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: a kid, but like you know, you have to figure 432 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: out how where the ball is coming and play the ball. Basketball, 433 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: you're getting rebound, same idea. So a lot of times 434 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: scouts will think about that background when they're going after 435 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: a corner type player to evaluate his ability to go 436 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: get the ball. I don't know if there's much of 437 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: a background of that with Tyson whatever, but whether you 438 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: played it or not, some guys have it and never 439 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: played those sports, so either it may or may not 440 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: be coachable. You know, the the two toughest positions I 441 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: think in the NFL for a rookie quarterback clearly. I mean, 442 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're you're gonna take some lumps. I mean, 443 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: even when you're the first overall pick in the draft. 444 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, go back and you look at all the 445 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: the eight men, Peyton, Manning's the John Always, I mean, 446 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: you name it. Every guy that was picked first overall 447 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: has had struggles. For the most part. I don't know 448 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: if is there a first overall pick quarterback that hasn't struggled. 449 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's got some Andrew Luck, I mean I'm 450 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: trying to think of how he was his rookie year, 451 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: but I mean and then the other positions. Corner, yeah, 452 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: because you're outn't on island yeah, and they got veteran 453 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: guys running rounds against you, picking on you, and the 454 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks are picking on you and everything in college football. 455 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: If you were Tyson Campbell or or a corner at 456 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: any major college football program, how many guys did you 457 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: go against that we're gonna play in the NFL. And 458 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about somebody that plays for Alabama, because 459 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: in practice, you were gonna place guys that we're gonna 460 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: play in the NFL every day part of the deal. 461 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: But it kind of depends on this on the schedule, right, right, 462 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, if let's say you're in 463 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: a sec right Georgia, Yeah, has some some offenses, some players, 464 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, and every once in a while have a guy. 465 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: Um Florida will have a guy every once in a while. 466 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: But the hard part when you make the transition to 467 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: the national football at corner is that, Okay, the the 468 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: level of talent that you're facing is what you have 469 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: never seen yet, and it's every week, and it's every week. 470 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: But then you also have to add in the complexity 471 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: complexities of understanding your game plan. So now you're trying 472 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: to learn what you're supposed to do against a great player. 473 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: That's not easy to do, you know. So what we're 474 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: seeing is exactly that with Tyson Campbell. We're seeing a 475 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: young player struggle and he's just got to continue to 476 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: work and bring the lunch pail and continue to work 477 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: to get better. And I think he will because I 478 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: think he's built that way. Our final thought on the 479 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars defense versus the Seahawks offense. Gino Smith started the 480 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: game with fourteen consecutive completions, the longest streak to start 481 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: a game by any quarterback in the National Football League 482 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: this season, and he finished with a career high completion 483 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: percentage twenty of twenty four, passing probably a d yards. 484 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: He did throw a couple of touchdowns. It was all 485 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: the fish shows, his halftime numbers. It was his game 486 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: that was in the game number. Well, I mean, you 487 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: might as well said that that was his happen I mean, 488 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: what was Tell me what he did? Do you have 489 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: the half numbers number that I asked that because Seattle 490 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: totally took their foot off the gas pedal at half time. 491 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: He was fourteen and fifteen at half they took their 492 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: foot off the gas pedal. I mean they're up three 493 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: scores and you know, they had the two possessions into 494 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the second half, they'd scored again and what did it 495 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: go to nothing? Then at that point Seattle said, okay, 496 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: we're just gonna hand the ball off, and I think 497 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: they had three straight run plays of the extra ye 498 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: that's right. So I know that. You know, the defense 499 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: made some comments that you know, they felt good about 500 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: their second half level of play, but it was it 501 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: wasn't the same was Seattle. I don't think they were 502 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: concerned at that point. I don't think so either. It 503 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel like because their defense was dominating the Jaguars offense. 504 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a struggle for the 505 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. And we talked about it before the game, 506 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: we talked about it during the game, and that Seattle's defense, 507 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: if you look at their rankings, you're looking at the 508 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: wrong thing. And the reason I we say that is 509 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: because in the first five weeks of the season, Seattle 510 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: was terrible. They had no team in the league had 511 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: given up more yards then the Seattle Seahawks defense. I 512 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: want to say it was the tune I wrote it 513 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: down four over four and fifty yards a game. But 514 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: in the last couple of games prior to facing the Jaguars, 515 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: they were only allowing eight teen points a game the 516 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: last four games. Going into the Jaguars game, they were 517 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the National Football League at 518 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: third down percentage allowed. Their takeaways were getting better. They 519 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: have too, I'm talking great players. Bobby Wagner in that 520 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: game was incredible, Okay, Jamal Adams was incredible, and the 521 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars got dominated by that defense. That was the story 522 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: of the game. When Trevor Lawrence looks like he's lost 523 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: and own bad balls and and he's having used timehouts 524 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: because that's just something that we haven't seen out of 525 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: that offense. Well, let's come back and delve into that 526 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more. James Robinson banged up in the 527 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: game might have changed some of the idea um, but 528 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: they had on offense, and as you said, Trevor Lawrence 529 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: threw the ball fifty four times. That's not ideal. It's 530 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: not ideal for any quarterback, much less a rookie. Check 531 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's a free subscription 532 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: on Apple, iTunes or Spotify or wherever you download pods. 533 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Give us that five star rating as always and this 534 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports 535 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: Book Digital Network. I think it just goes to show, um, 536 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: she don't come out and ready to play and you 537 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: don't play well. This can happen to anybody any week. 538 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter who you're playing. You just 539 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta play well. And we did it. So 540 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: I think that's as you know, it's not concerning. Obviously. 541 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: For for me, it's not. Um, I just because I'm 542 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: in that locker room and you know, with all those 543 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: guys and see how hard we work and how we prepare, 544 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and UM, I know part from the ouseide looking in 545 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: it might be, but it's it's not concerning. It's just 546 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: we played like crap today and that's gonna happen every 547 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: now and then, and um, but I can't let this 548 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: happen again for sure. It's pretty straightforward. From Trevor Lawrence, 549 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback after the Lass in Seattle this past Sunday 550 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: and welcome backs. Jaguars Happy Our coming up at five 551 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: o'clock the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. 552 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: We'll hear from the Jaguars head coach. Get his final 553 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Laws in Seattle, and then look ahead 554 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills coming up. Jaguars game Day broadcasts 555 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: are presented by Vice Star Credit Union, and the Jaguars 556 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: will face the Bills this week. We'll, as we said, 557 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: we'll get to that a little bit later. The top team. 558 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: We could argue they are the top team in the 559 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: a f C coming in next week. We touched on 560 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the offense at the end of that last little bit there. 561 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was forced to throw fifty four times in 562 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: the game. James Lawrence banged up James Lawrence, James Robinson. 563 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Trevor and James and Robinson and Lawrence, James 564 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Robinson with a Bruce he James Lawrence JP actually made 565 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: a mistake. I did, and I own it. Hashtag on 566 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: it um Bruce heel day to day for James Robinson. 567 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: When you left the game, you know, hey, that that 568 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of changed the whole feel of what they were 569 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: trying to do. Totally changed it. I mean literally, and 570 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: you could see that the Seattle defense I think, respected 571 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: the running game a little bit less. I mean, that's 572 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: how good James Robinson is. And and I know that 573 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Urban has a history with Carlos Hyde and and they 574 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident with him. But the reality is he 575 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: is not James Robinson not. I mean, the NFL is 576 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: about talent, and if you don't have your best talent 577 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: out there, it's hard to be at your best. And 578 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: when James went out, I thought it was a significant loss. 579 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: He is he is their best player on offense, and 580 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: it's not even debatable. At some point Trevor Lawrence may 581 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: be the best player, but right now he's not. And 582 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: for a young quarterback, you've got to have a great 583 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: offensive rushing attack and James Robinson gives them their best 584 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: chance at that. So to not have him, I mean 585 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: that was crushing. And I think the one thing that 586 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of tick me off a little bit. First of all, 587 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: it was a very legal push by Bobby Wagner on 588 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: the sideline inbounds, inbounds, and it wasn't over the top 589 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: or anything of that nature. But where was I mean, 590 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: the Seahawks bench man catch the guy? Don't just like 591 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: open up part the scene so I can go flying 592 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: into the bench, sure something. I mean, somebody just catched 593 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: the guy professionally, have a little professional courtesy, Well, Hey, 594 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: that's what it is. I say that because he's a Jaguar. 595 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: But now if somebody, if Miles Jack pushes a seahawk 596 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars bench, I'm saying, get out of the way, 597 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: say let him go. Of course you are right, tell 598 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: colored glasses you gotta so, you know. Alright. So the 599 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: longest play at offense was seventeen yards and it was 600 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: the pass of the flat to James Robinson, which goes 601 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: to show you how good he is. The next longest 602 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: play was fourteen yards. That was a run, So nothing 603 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: down the field at all. Who had to run James Robinson, 604 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: not James Lawrence. James Robinson. After that, I mean, he 605 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: just had no Nobody opened down the field, and when 606 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: they did, they either dropped the ball or it was 607 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: out of bounds or whatever the case. Man, there really 608 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: is is I mean they're missing, they're missing the vertical aspect. 609 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: So and we know that, we've talked about that for weeks, 610 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be what it is. They didn't trade 611 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: for any new guys. Well, look at that doesn't factor 612 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: into the equation. You have to still you still have 613 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: to have a vertical element to your game and the 614 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: reason why is it Because if you have the vertical element, 615 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: it makes the area bigger that the defense has to cover. Well, yeah, 616 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Yeah, see what I'm saying. 617 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: I see we use my Doug Mussy. Yes, I do 618 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What are we doing? It's another 619 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: dug is um. But what it does it makes the 620 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: defense honor the back part of the field and it 621 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: opens up the windows everywhere from their closer back to 622 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And right now they really don't 623 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: have a vertical element to their passing game. And and 624 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, look at it. It's not just because d J. 625 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: Chark is on injured reserve because he wasn't just the 626 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: are there, but they have kept guys on this roster 627 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: because they supposedly had great speed. Okay, and where is 628 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: that speed at? I mean, look, Tyron Johnson active in 629 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: the game, supposedly has great speed. We haven't seen anything 630 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: vertical with him. You've got James Jamal Agnew who has 631 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: He's a separate, he gets a great separation. He's got speed. 632 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see something to where the 633 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: receivers are running go routes, which the go routes are 634 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: just straight down the field they go. And the reason 635 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: that go routes have to be a part of the game. 636 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: It stretches the defense out number one and it makes 637 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: defenses honor that. And then when you throw the ball 638 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: on go routes, a couple of things can happen. Hey, 639 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: you might get a completion. You might be good. A 640 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: second thing is is that you gave maybe get an interference. 641 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: That would be also nice, just as good. And then 642 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: the other thing could happen is that you could be 643 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: an incompletion and no penalty and that's okay, okay's line 644 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: up again. Play, Or it could be intercepted. That'd be bad. 645 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: That could be bad. But I mean I think that 646 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: that's but that's three good things and one bad thing. 647 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: That's part of why you mean, I mean Al Davis, 648 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: God Rest his soul. Al Davis always believed in the 649 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: vertical element of the game. I mean, that was and 650 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: he I mean he he gave the marching orders to 651 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: his personnel, guys, his coaching staff the ball must be 652 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: thrown deep, and that's and he was right. I mean, 653 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: he was totally right. And that's in the seventies, even 654 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, who had this controlled passing attack, had the 655 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: vertical element to it. John Taylor, Okay, it wasn't just 656 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice on slants and little crossing routes. John Taylor 657 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: was a guy that could go so even Bill Walsh 658 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: had a vertical element to his passing game and in 659 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: this offense. In the last couple of games, we haven't 660 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: seen a lot of that vertical element. That's in fact, 661 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: that's a note that I've made after like the last 662 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: three games. I've heard this before. Where's the vertical element 663 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: to the passing attack? Do you Yeah, that's what it is. 664 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, do you work it in I mean working 665 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: more in the game plan. Maybe it's in the game 666 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: plan and it's covered and they just can't make the 667 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: throw down field, you know. I mean, okay, well, at 668 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: some point you can't force it into three defenders. Right. Well, 669 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the tape, but like I mean, are 670 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: they isn't there? Are they trying? They're They're not. They're 671 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: not trying as much I think, as as you probably 672 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: would like. And especially when you and here's the thing 673 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be more difficult going forward. Most of your 674 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: deep routes or vertical aspect of the passing game, and 675 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: not always, but the percentages are more from play action. So, 676 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: now of a sudden, if you're missing your best running 677 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: back and the most respected part of your running game, 678 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna run downhill and chase the faith. Now what happens. 679 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: What happens to that play action where you're trying to 680 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: take shot down the field? Well, uh, send more games 681 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: to figure something out on that side. We'll come back 682 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: in a moment and talk about the a f C 683 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: South is it? Is it out of control? Now? Do 684 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: the Titans have it? Or does the injury to Derrick 685 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: Henry change matters? Great question, we'll find out, great question, 686 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it when we come back. If 687 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: you're looking for the m v P of the truck game, 688 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: then look no further than four f one fifty. It's 689 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 1: loaded with impressive capability and designed to dominate work, play 690 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: and everything in between. And this truck makes tough look easy, 691 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: no wonder. It's the official truck of the NFL and 692 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: proud partner of your Jacksonville Jaguars the Baptist Health Injury 693 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: Report as well. When we come back, it's Jaguars Happy 694 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network. 695 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: It's very funny thinking that's something we worked, you know, 696 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: even over the bye week and we got better. But yeah, 697 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: that's demoralizing. You go on the road and the offense 698 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: moves the ball we've put. You know, that would have 699 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: been good down at inside of five. We've been really 700 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: good at making go to field. It goes in the 701 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: end zone and take it down the fielding s floor 702 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: and then uh score again. So Gino had a he's 703 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: a streaky player, and he was streaky at first. I 704 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: mean there's times we even had a guy doubled and 705 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: he stuck one in there. Um, but those are two 706 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: good receivers and we gotta play better and and uh 707 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: but we played you know, the tale of two house 708 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: on defense. That's head coach Urban Meyer earlier this week 709 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll hear from 710 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: head coach Urban Meyer on the Bourbon Meyer, a show 711 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I'd lead up that's at five o'clock on the Jaguars 712 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 1: Radio Network every Tuesday. Hello, log Well, the special teams 713 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: that he talks about, what was a very good uh 714 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: the first drive player. He's referring to you got a 715 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: really nice punt by Logan Cook and an opportunity with 716 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford to catch the ball at the phone. Yeah, 717 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: so here's a great chance to back up Seattle play 718 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: some field position, because if you can get great field 719 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: position like that, then it kind of can tip the 720 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: scales for field position throughout the game or at least 721 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: throughout the near future. And he doesn't catch it, it 722 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: bounces the ground and rolls into the end zones. So 723 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: now you lose. You lose fifteen yards and field position. 724 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: There you had a uh illegal formation on a punch 725 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: pel Russell lined up too deep. He's a tackle. He's 726 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: got to be on the line of scrimmage. That's a 727 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: mental error. I mean, when you can't get lined up properly, 728 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: then that's a mental error. You can't have that. I mean, 729 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: that's I mean that one there. I think you gotta say, hey, 730 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: that falls on coaching. And then you had a penalty 731 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: on the kick return which backed the Jaguars up to 732 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: the eight. That was I think right prior to that 733 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: penalty on Chappelle Russell. And then at the end, you 734 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: know you have the onside kick, which is questionable even 735 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: to do that we've talked about that, but then you 736 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: allow that to be returned for a touchdown. So it 737 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: was it was not a good day for special teams 738 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: and it was not a good day for the offense 739 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: in particular. Veterans, Choose v A for the benefits you've earned. 740 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: Visit choose dot v A dot gov. And let's take 741 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: a look now at the Baptist Health injury report Baptist 742 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: Health changing healthcare for good. Urban Meyer on Monday talked 743 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: about James Robinson's heel injury set us day to day, 744 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: we'll see the Jags did claim divide a zigbo off waivers. 745 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: They've had him here before, and we'll see moving ahead 746 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: what Robinson's feeling is. But then it's a long schedule ahead, 747 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: and you know, do you want to throw him out 748 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: there right away? Do you want to give him another 749 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: week and just make sure? No? No, no, James Robinson 750 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: with the injury, that's all gonna be a medical decision. Sure, 751 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: But even if it's a question at all, you set 752 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: him down right, if it's all I can go, I'm seventy, 753 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: do you let him Go's not good enough? No? No, no, no, no, 754 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: that's uh. He'll say he's it's just his personality. And 755 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, I look, they say hill bruise, 756 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: but here's the reality. You don't have to reveal exactly 757 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, it can be a plan 758 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: our fascionists and you say he'll brewis because I mean, 759 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: in reality that could you got heal pain and you 760 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: got inflammation there, so you can say, well, that's a 761 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: hill brewis. I mean, you just don't know exactly what 762 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: it is. But I will tell you this. You've got 763 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: a running back and he's got a foot problems where 764 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: it all begins. It's not good. I mean, that's like 765 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: the worst injury that you can have if you're running 766 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: back or if you're a skill position player, is a 767 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: foot injury. I mean, last time I chat, you gotta run, 768 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,479 Speaker 1: that's part. That's what the the name of the run. 769 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: You need a foot you need actually you probably need 770 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: a couple of them. I just hope he's okay, because 771 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: James is such a such a good player. Yeah, and 772 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: he's like I said, he's the best player, said Ace before. 773 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: He's the best player that they have on offense, not 774 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: even close. Urban also earlier said this week that you 775 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: know lender is getting closer. You know, the m c 776 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: L is he Now what was that game injury weeks 777 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: four weeks it was against Cincinnati, right, Yeah, they said 778 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: the m c L is better now, but it's the 779 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: high ankles. So that was I mean, if you want 780 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: to three Titans game yea three three weeks ago and 781 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: he had what was reported to be a knee and 782 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: then high ankle. Okay, high ankles are four to six. 783 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: That's that's the what's remaining, according to Urban on Monday. Yeah, 784 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: so that's gonna be gonna be a while. Let's take 785 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: a look at the AFC South and start with the 786 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: results from this past weekend, and of course we know 787 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: what happened in Seattle, the Seahawks over the Jaguars seven 788 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: overtime game. In Indy, the Tennessee Titans get an interception 789 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: off Carson Wentz in overtime and set up the game 790 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: winning field goal thirty four thirty one the final and 791 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: then Derrick Henry with a foot injury surgery out indefinitely 792 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: and the Rams. Of course, we're up thirty eight nothing 793 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: on the Texans. The Texans scored twenty two four quarter 794 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: points to make the score closer, but it was all 795 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: Rams all day against the Texans. So we look now 796 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: the a f C South standings after week eight and 797 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: it's Tennessee in command of the a f C South 798 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the division. Now, of course, after 799 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: that went over the Colts, they have a sizeable lead 800 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: over Indy in a second place in the division. The 801 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: Titans at six and two, Indy at three and five, 802 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: the Jags at one in six in Houston at one 803 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: and seven. So six and two, three and five, that's 804 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: first a second place. And we look at the upcoming 805 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: schedules and weeks nine through thirteen for the a f 806 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: C South. We know the Jags schedule ahead Buffalo, Indie, 807 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: San fran The Texans are at Miami by week at 808 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee their toast anyway, Indie, the Jets, the Jaguars both 809 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: at home. They're at Buffalo, that's a tough one, and 810 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: then Tennessee at the Rams. What a game that'll be. 811 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: And then New Orleans and Houston both in Nashville. Those 812 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 1: are the next three weeks. Now the question with without 813 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Adrian Peterson I guess has been signed to 814 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: the practice squad officially in Tennessee. Uh, you know, can 815 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: Tennessee maintained this lead? Is this a lead too big 816 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: to overcome for Indianapolis in the division considering Derrick Henry 817 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: might be done for a long time. Did you see 818 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: the interception that Carson went through? That not good? That's 819 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: something that you would expect to see out of a 820 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. It's terrible. Yes, it was so. I mean, 821 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: I look, I'd like to say that, Hey, look, Tennessee 822 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, they're in trouble. But who's gonna catch it? 823 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: Are they? I mean they're in trouble. I think after 824 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: the season's over, in the postseason without here's the reality. 825 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is their offense. He is their entire offense. 826 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: Are they capable of surviving without him? I think Tanny 827 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: Hill is a good quarterback. Not a great quarterback, but 828 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback. He's got some really good weapons 829 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: when they're healthy. A J. Brown, Julio Jones. Tight ends 830 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: are pretty solid. He's got running back that can catch 831 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield. So can they survive? Yeah? 832 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: I think they can survive, But they need to find 833 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: somebody because that's their identity, their identity is running the football. 834 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: They gotta find somebody that can replace some of the 835 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: production of Derrick Henry Kin. Adrian Peterson be that guy. 836 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Adrian Peterson is the last 837 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: time I saw he was still a good back. But 838 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: he's not Derek kenn I mean, he's like years old, 839 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: as old as you are. Kennry has bailed out that 840 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: team on more occasions then you can shake a stick act. 841 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that good. So, but yeah, can the 842 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: Colts catch him? No? I mean, look, I know that 843 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: Frank Wright Carson Wentz have a great relationship, but that 844 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: relationship didn't help Carson Wentz on that interception. I mean, seriously, 845 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 1: that was the worst. And I mean it's trun almost 846 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: had one of them Seattle. I know, I know. It's 847 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: one play in one game. Bad decision, bad decision by 848 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: Carson Wentzon. And Trevor is gonna learn that you don't 849 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: do that. I mean he threw it up, you know, 850 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: and you can't. You just can't do that. And uh, 851 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: the Rams thirty eight zip on the Texans, well, well 852 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: the Texans, you know, you know what they're saying right now. 853 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: We don't really happy about our protection in the fourth quarter. 854 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, we got better in the fourth quarter. We 855 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: scored twenty two points in the fourth quarter. I'm sure 856 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I know 857 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: it's not and what and what do you say to 858 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: that garbage? Garbage? I can say a lot of things 859 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: to that, but um, yeah, they're out of it. The 860 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: Rams though, of course, after that, when go out and 861 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: trade for von Miller and they're going all in in 862 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: a very competitive NFC West Division, they feel like, hey, 863 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: they got the quarterback. Now let's go get von Miller, 864 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: rent him for a couple of months and see what happens. 865 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: And they're all in in l A. It's gonna be 866 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. It would be interesting to watch. And 867 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: you know what's also going to be interesting to listen to. 868 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: Coming up is the Urban Meyer Show, and just about 869 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 1: a minute or so, we'll hear from the Jaguar's head coach, 870 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: get his final thoughts on what happened in Seattle, and 871 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: then look ahead to the Buffalo Bill. I'll guarantee you 872 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: that he is not going to be a happy coach. 873 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how he could be coming 874 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: out of that game while you camping. I mean, you 875 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: have terrible performance and you know, you got out played 876 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: and you got out coached. It was not it was 877 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: not a good day and so not not a good 878 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: day to have a coaching show when you have a 879 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: game like that. Prior to it. We'll hear from Urban 880 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: coming up in just a moment on the Urban Meyers 881 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. That'll do it for 882 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brett Reeberd, Jeff Flagga. 883 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: But I'm J. P. Shadrick and this is the Jaguars 884 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network