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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 1: January twenty seven. The month is almost over. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we recorded the first podcast of the new year

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Speaker 1: like a week ago. I mean, you know, obviously my

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Speaker 1: birthday flew by. NFL playoffs are flying by. There's three

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Speaker 1: games left in the NFL season. It's a little depressing.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys are getting on on the action with

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Speaker 1: our new advertiser. Uh. Free money in the gambling space

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Speaker 1: is really really fun and nice, and I've been giving

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Speaker 1: out tons of winners on this podcast. I don't listen

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Speaker 1: to a lot of other gambling podcasts because, yeah, obviously

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Speaker 1: I think I know what I'm doing. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a good job. I know I'm winning money, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want my mind muddled with other guys, picks,

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Speaker 1: guys or girls, I should say, so. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know if the others out there are winning, but well,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you've been listening, these playoffs have been

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Speaker 1: extremely lucrative. Good opportunit lady for you guys to clean up.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to the official picks tomorrow. I did tell

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Speaker 1: you a posted on social media. I'm invested in a teaser. Um,

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Speaker 1: forty Niners up to ten and Chiefs down to pick him?

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Speaker 1: Who screws that up? I mean, there's a scenario where

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Speaker 1: the Niners get blown out, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are okay. But our guests today Solomon Wilcots,

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Speaker 1: you guys probably know him, former CBS announcer, former Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 1: uh defensive back, and um, he makes a decent case

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals here and and you know, well, I

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Speaker 1: disagree obviously, I think the Chiefs win, but it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a somewhat compelling argument for the Bengals. Now, he

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Speaker 1: does host a Bengals podcast, so that's kind of his

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Speaker 1: job to waive the pom pom for Cincinnati. But he's

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Speaker 1: pretty plugged in. Obviously a huge Joe Burrow guy. Who's

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Speaker 1: not a Joe Burrow guy at this point. I mean, goodness, gracious, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know he he makes a comparison of Burrow to

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Speaker 1: dirtier Burrows Jersey gets, the better he plays, which you know,

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Speaker 1: that means you're taking a pounding and you're probably not

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Speaker 1: Lineman all game long. Somehow Burrow has taken taken the

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Speaker 1: hits and keeps on taking. Uh So, I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are like this with Solomon Wilcots. I do want

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Speaker 1: to start the pod with a quick I texted Rob

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Speaker 1: g Like last night, like Robbie, I may do an

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Speaker 1: about face on a take that I've been kind of

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Speaker 1: So it's not a full on Mia Colpa. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not totally bailing on the original take. But you guys

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Speaker 1: know how it goes right now, Right there's a ton

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Speaker 1: of information out there. You've got to sift through the

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Speaker 1: haystack to find the needle, the gem that's gonna give

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Speaker 1: you something great. And you're presented with new information. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should change your mind on anything, sports, movies, politics, TV, oh, everything.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you get new. You can't just be hardheaded and

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Speaker 1: and I've been young and dumb and really idiotic back

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Speaker 1: Dante Whitner and he's like, Jay, you know I heard

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Speaker 1: Whitner keeping up for Jimmy g. Um. I'm telling you now,

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Speaker 1: because they're just gonna be like, why are you always

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Speaker 1: If you guys have seen the uh, the great movie

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Speaker 1: And yes, Joe Montana had the injury, but Steve Young's

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Speaker 1: Jimmy G may not be the best player on the team,

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Speaker 1: just say, hey, we'll we'll trade you for Jimmy G.

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Speaker 1: uh Cincinnati Bengal safety. Can I call you a legend? Solomon?

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Speaker 1: So that was unlikely. Solomon, Let's keep it real here.

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Speaker 1: loss of Larry Ogan job has forced them to do

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Speaker 1: things a little bit differently, and I think they were

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Speaker 1: very fortunate to come out of Nashville with a win

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Speaker 1: without having Ogan Joby on the field. I mean helped

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Speaker 1: that Ryan Tannehill kind of bombit it all over himself

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Speaker 1: there with the interception. But I gotta go, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be that guy, Solomon uh And I know

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Speaker 1: when you preface it by saying I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be that guy, you are being that guy. I did

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Speaker 1: not have money on the Chiefs Bengals game the earlier meeting,

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Speaker 1: but some of the refereeing left a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, who's not really a complainer about that, was

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Speaker 1: bitching and owning for most of the second half. I

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Speaker 1: saw that six first downs for the Bengals via penalty

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Speaker 1: um and Casey was whistled for ten flags. I think

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Speaker 1: there was a kick return touchdown that was called back

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Speaker 1: on a questionable hold. I've just got to ask your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the refereeing in that game. And as a

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Speaker 1: former player, you don't want to blame the refs, but

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Speaker 1: dot dot dot. So here's what I will tell you.

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Speaker 1: If you go back and even look at on the

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Speaker 1: critical down at holding, Uh, it was a passive appearance

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Speaker 1: holding on the defensive back against Tyler Boy. He held him.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't beat Listen, if you think Gabriel Davis had

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Speaker 1: an excellent game against the Chief's defense UM in the

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Speaker 1: division round, go back and look at what Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: did to him in week seventeen. They couldn't cover him.

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Speaker 1: Not only could they not cover him, And you gotta

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Speaker 1: understand once they start to try to double on Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't cover t Higgins and Tyler Boy because they

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Speaker 1: started they wanted to stingle cover those guys. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: cover them. The Chiefs have a liability on the back end,

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Speaker 1: particularly now without Tyrone Matthew. If he's not able to

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Speaker 1: play in this championship game. UM, and I knew it

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Speaker 1: once he left the game against Buffalo, I felt like

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Speaker 1: they were vulnerable. Um uh, listen, they've been vulnerable all year.

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Speaker 1: Remember they were playing Dan Sorson on the back end.

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Speaker 1: He's not that guy. He's a guy that should be

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Speaker 1: playing in the box closer to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: I like Dan Swordson, but he's a liability in space.

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Speaker 1: Loron Thorne Hill hasn't fully recovered from his knee injury. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's given up big plays. We saw that again against Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and I remember in that game, Joe Burrow had over

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Speaker 1: four hundred yards passing in the game and jamaarches not

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Speaker 1: just like what Gabriel Davis. He had two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty six yards receiving in that game against the secondary.

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Speaker 1: So um listen. I know the penalty showed one thing,

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Speaker 1: but there were even more explosive plays had in that

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Speaker 1: game where there were no penalty slag um on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the same way. I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a shootout. And Andy Reid knows

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Speaker 1: that he's got to get his offense off to a

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Speaker 1: fast start. Uh. If he's got to help his defense

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Speaker 1: at all against Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: s R to listen live. You mentioned high scoring, So

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Speaker 1: this total on the game, I don't know how big

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Speaker 1: of a gambler you are. Opening about fifty and a half.

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Speaker 1: It's currently at fifty four and a half. It's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be a shootout. Yeah, I think it's gonna move.

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Speaker 1: Let the weather be somewhat decent, right, because I haven't

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Speaker 1: looked how is it? How's it gonna be? Um? I

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Speaker 1: think it's somewhere in the thirties. That's not that's not

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Speaker 1: too bad. It depends it can move a little bit. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that number could go even north.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the over here could be fifty five.

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Speaker 1: And and listen, I'm I'm understanding that if you're the

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Speaker 1: end of failed, you're probably wanting to repeat of that

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Speaker 1: game between the Chiefs and the Rams, right, you probably

496
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Speaker 1: want to remember that Monday I gave me that was

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest games I've ever seen. Offensively, okay,

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Speaker 1: and even defense is scored in that game. If you don't,

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Speaker 1: if you don't recall like the Rams defense. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had the pick six they had. It was one

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Speaker 1: of the great games. And I'm sure the NFL would

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Speaker 1: love to see the Chiefs and Rams in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl again, because there you're gonna see a lot of

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Speaker 1: video replay of that game back in ten. But listen,

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Speaker 1: I think the Bengals can match the firepower of the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, and I think Joe Burrow can match

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Speaker 1: the firepower of Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford in the

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Speaker 1: l A. Rams. All right, you brought up the coaches.

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Speaker 1: I again, I've kind of been hard on this guy.

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Speaker 1: I personally thought he would be fired earlier in the season.

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Speaker 1: I think he was the number two most likely coach

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Speaker 1: to get fired, him into the gambling lines. But Zach Taylor, um,

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Speaker 1: you know he's going up against Andy Reid. Andy read

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Speaker 1: one of the probably top ten coaches in the history

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Speaker 1: of the sport. Um you know. I'll just I'm curious

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Speaker 1: as to your thoughts on the coaching matchup here. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you asked that, Jason. I mean, I had to

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Speaker 1: be nice about it. I'm not killing Zach Taylor. He's

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Speaker 1: in the NFC title game. I can't kill the guy.

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Speaker 1: We share something where to pay attention now, go I

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Speaker 1: want you to do my favorite Go back and watch

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Speaker 1: the first half, and then watch the adjustments that Zach

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Speaker 1: Tayler did in the second half of that of the

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Speaker 1: of the Kansas City game. In fact, go back earlier

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Speaker 1: and go watch a game in Denver late in the game,

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Speaker 1: and you know that Broncos defense is really good defense,

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Speaker 1: good on the front end, good on the back end,

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Speaker 1: good coverage units. Right, and watch the play he designed

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Speaker 1: on a big third down play to Tyler Boyd to

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Speaker 1: get him open. It was a beautifully designed play to

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Speaker 1: bring Tyler Boyd clear, get the motion of the defense

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Speaker 1: on one way, bring him clearly back across, and then

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Speaker 1: having turned up and hit him on a crossing route

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Speaker 1: that he bent up, didn't bring it all the way

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Speaker 1: back uh and then bent it up. The scene broke

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Speaker 1: the game wide open. Designed by Zach Taylor. Go um

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Speaker 1: to Week seventeen against the Chiefs. In the final minutes,

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Speaker 1: he did something that the Buffalo Bills did not do

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Speaker 1: in the divisional round game. He understood that while the

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Speaker 1: score was thirty one, a piece. Not only did he

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Speaker 1: doll up a beautiful play on third and twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and and Borrow connects with Jamar Chase on a thirty

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Speaker 1: yard test just beyond the first down marker. Let me ask,

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Speaker 1: was that was that Zach Taylor dialing it up? Or

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Speaker 1: was that the Chiefs and Spagnolo just being a moron

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Speaker 1: and blitzing on third and thirty. Call it what you want.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to design a play a run, and somebody's

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00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: got a design to play a round against what they

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Speaker 1: were bringing. Right, that was that tape And everybody, what

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Speaker 1: I'm really getting at is in that final sequence, after

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Speaker 1: they got the first down, they're pretty much in field

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Speaker 1: goal range. There was a time in there where the

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00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs were trying to allow Joe Mixing to score. He wouldn't.

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00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: He ran down to the two yard line and laid

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Speaker 1: down it. But that was Zach Taylor preparing his team,

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Speaker 1: don't score here. We're not giving the ball back to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and we kicked the field goal with zero

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00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: time left on the clock. It was beautiful in terms

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Speaker 1: of what he did. Not only did they go down

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Speaker 1: and win the game they wanted in a way where

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Speaker 1: they knew you don't give that ball back to Patrick Mahomes.

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00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: Someone should have told Sean McDermott that last week. Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor knew that in week seventeen. So that's out smarting

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid. I've always said the only way to stop

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is to keep him standing on the sideline

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Speaker 1: next to Andy Reid, and that's what Zach Taylor did

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Speaker 1: week seventeen. Okay, So by that logic though, is to

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Speaker 1: keep him on the sideline. Does that mean will probably

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Speaker 1: see some sort of run heavy attack as opposed to

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Speaker 1: chuck and duck. Uh, you know with chasing Higgins boy, No,

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: it's only to be meant to be used in critical moments.

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00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: You do that, what final minutes of the first half,

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00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: final minutes of the second half. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: give him an extra possession. So you don't look to

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Speaker 1: use that strategy the entire game. You still play to

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Speaker 1: the strengths of your offense, but they're gonna be critical

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: moments in the game where you clearly can see keep

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Speaker 1: this guy off the field. You don't have to slow

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Speaker 1: down what you do. I mean, listen, if going up

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00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Temple works against their defense, you're gonna do that. But

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Speaker 1: there might be a time where you say, Okay, I

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00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: got four minutes left on the clock. Um, at the

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: end of the first half, I can score in two

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: minutes against these guys because they can't cover Jamar Chase.

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00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: But now I'm gonna use the whole four minutes and

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Speaker 1: still get the point. What if you do that? That's

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00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: not wrong. In fact, I think it's the right thing

588
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: to do, because you want to also simultaneously keep the

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Speaker 1: ball out of the hands of Patrick Mahomes, because going

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00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: down and scoring and giving him the final two minutes

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00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the half our end of the game,

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Speaker 1: does you no good. Yeah, I am curious. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is the fourth straight a f C title game

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, and a lot of people are saying

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Speaker 1: this is officially a dynasty. You know you you've been

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00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: around at a little longer than I have in the

597
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: league covering the league. Um is this Can we call

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Speaker 1: this a dynasty or no? They only have one Super Bowl.

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00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I think they've got some dynastic traits about them, obviously

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and listen, look at Tyreek Hill and look

601
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Speaker 1: at at at Kelsey. These guys are putting up Hall

602
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: of Fame. Kelsey has already put up Hall of fame, though.

603
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean what you're seeing from Patrick Mahomes, you're seeing

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Speaker 1: him perform at an elite level early in his career. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the Tom Brady the midway portion of his

606
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: career took Peyton Manning maybe a few years before it

607
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: was lock him into the a f C Title Game. Right,

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00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: So this guy is trending because he's got that grade

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Speaker 1: of a coach and the fact that they've won sixth

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Speaker 1: straight division no um crowns in the a f C West,

611
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: six in a row. So they were winning this even

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Speaker 1: even before practical Mahomes got there. And then once he

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00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: got him there, they elevated them to become a consecutive

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Speaker 1: participant in the a f C Title Game four in

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Speaker 1: a row. Now, so uh, but they got it. They

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Speaker 1: want to close it out. They want to win it all.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. They've been to too straight

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and if they win, if they win on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: they'd be three in a row. So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, you'd like to see him finish it because

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Speaker 1: that would validate that it's a dynasty by winning the championship.

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Speaker 1: I'll close out with this one. You know, Um, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Borrow earlier. This is the first time in

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Speaker 1: twelve years that Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers is not

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Speaker 1: in a conference championship game. And I'm just you know,

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Speaker 1: Brady is forty four, Aaron Rodgers is getting approaching forty

627
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Speaker 1: and Ornery Solomon. Is this officially the changing of the guard? Um?

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Speaker 1: We got Burrow, we got Stafford finally here. Obviously Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is here to stay. I don't know what your thoughts

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: are and Jimmy G, but it feels like that era

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Speaker 1: is over with Peyton Manning gone, Brady talking retirement. I

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00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna retire, but and Rogers near the end,

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Speaker 1: do you think we're at the changing of the guard

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position? First of all, there was no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that, And the reason why Jimmy G is

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Speaker 1: in the postseason is because he plays for one of

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Speaker 1: the great coaches in Alie. So I think we also

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Speaker 1: have a changing of the guard when it comes to coaching.

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Speaker 1: And you gotta put Kyle Shanahan in that in that category.

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Speaker 1: I know he's still a little young to be mentioning

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Speaker 1: him with Belichick and and Andy Reid, because I look

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Speaker 1: at those two guys a separate tier right now. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you the other guy who was on their tier

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Speaker 1: right there with him, and maybe you're even a little

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Speaker 1: head of Andy Reid at the time, and that was

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan. Mike Shanahan could coach. That guy could beat Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I watched him, I called many of those games. He

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Speaker 1: was one of the great play callers. And he's helped

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Speaker 1: build the system and build an atmosphere there with John

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Speaker 1: Lynch and pairing him with his son, Kyle Shanahan where

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Speaker 1: they're able to leverage other elements of the team and

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Speaker 1: play a complimentary style that's gonna lift the quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: that's why if they go out and get a little

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Speaker 1: bit better than Jimmy G there, forty nine is gonna

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Speaker 1: be there for years to come because if they can

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Speaker 1: get there with Jimmy G I know they can get

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Speaker 1: there with whoever the next iteration of their quarterback is

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Speaker 1: gonna be. But no doubt, you look at a Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: you look at a Patrick Mahomes, you look at a

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, look at it justin Herbert. Right, um, and

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Speaker 1: and listen, I give Matthew Stafford credit because he he

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Speaker 1: knew he needed to get out of Detroit, team up

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Speaker 1: with a great coach like Kyle like excuse me, like

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and that system. But there's no doubt we

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Speaker 1: see a young cropper quarterbacks that are coming up or

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Speaker 1: more mobile. They threatened the defense in and a lot

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Speaker 1: of different ways and can lace the ball with some

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Speaker 1: of the best of them. They could throw it as

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Speaker 1: well as Brady and Aaron Rodgers, but their mobility makes

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Speaker 1: them I think, not just a double but a triple

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Speaker 1: threat as an offensive weapon. And and Justin Herbert, he's

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Speaker 1: not going on the door. I love that guy. Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he'll be in that group. All right, Solomon, you

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Speaker 1: want to go ahead and offer a pick or do

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Speaker 1: you not do the pick? How can I not take

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Speaker 1: my Cincinnati Bang the wait to win out right? No? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got to take him to win out right. I

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Speaker 1: don't because because guess what, I live in Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 1: and what if they what if they end up winning

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Speaker 1: and I don't pick them, you don't pick them? I

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Speaker 1: want to kind a guy? Am I right? And I

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Speaker 1: do believe in Joe Burrow. In fact, I tell you

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Speaker 1: everybody in this league believes in Joe Burrow, even the

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. I watched Aaron Rodgers earlier this season run

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Speaker 1: across the field to talk to Joe Burrow and tell him, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: you're too good to be run around. You need to

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Speaker 1: get down. Man. You can protect yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Like he does take some hits, man, but he's like

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Speaker 1: a bread farm this guy. The more he gets his

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Speaker 1: Jersey Derberty, the better he gets. He's a different kind

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Speaker 1: of competitor at the quarterback position, like the Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: used to be. A Brett Farve was that way, and

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Speaker 1: I tried to explain to Shady McCoy when we're doing

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Speaker 1: our morning show on Series Excement of Radio. That's what

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Speaker 1: puts him. I think a cut above justin Herbert. As

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Speaker 1: much as I love Herbert and his armed talent and

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Speaker 1: all those things. Joe Burrow, don't quit, man. There's more

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Speaker 1: you hit him, the better he gets. You saw that

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Speaker 1: one guy gets back nine times. It's still complete over

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Speaker 1: his past. I wonder if there there's something too. He

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Speaker 1: was never given anything. I know you said he was

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Speaker 1: all Mr Quarterback and or Mr Football in the State

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Speaker 1: of Ohio. But like to sit for three years at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, you know that that's gotta that's gotta test

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Speaker 1: your fortitude. Like, AHM, I built for this, So do

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Speaker 1: I have a future in this? You know? You know

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Speaker 1: that reminds you of talking about quarterbacks who was never

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Speaker 1: given anything and they weren't the first overall every Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady Tom Brady, yes, seventh on the depth chart roll

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Speaker 1: just have to go to a junior college. You nobody wanted.

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Speaker 1: Um even left him sitting in a chair on draft.

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Speaker 1: They sweating it out and these guys had to earn it. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I've spent time with them both.

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Speaker 1: They have that chip on their shoulder. They had to

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Speaker 1: earn it and therefore by you know, they worked as

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Speaker 1: hard as anyone to achieve and and they're in leadership

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Speaker 1: means a lot to them and so um Joe Burrows

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Speaker 1: cut from the same clause. Nice alright, Solomon Wilcots Bengals Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to your Bengals. Maybe I'll see out here

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl in a couple of weeks. Solomon,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Yeah, it's the Believing Bengal podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find it on the Belief Network, the Belief

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. That's where you can find it, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you find your podcast. Check it out. My man, Adam

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Speaker 1: pac Man John when he joins me every single weekend,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of fun talking about since Mattie Jones,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Oh boy, I'm afraid to ask about pac

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Speaker 1: Man Jones. He's cool, you're like them. Sure, I would

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Speaker 1: like he keeps it. He keeps it real, Jason, he

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Speaker 1: does maybe two weeks alright, silent, Thanks man, Okay, thank you,