Speaker 1: If you could say anything because you funk when you're writing, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all ups and down 'all your child of friends.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the one thing he will regret?
Speaker 1: The one thing? Um, going to the Mike Typson fight. Uh,
Speaker 1: going off to Vegas that weekend. But then you gotta
Speaker 1: remember you talking to somebody to believe when it's your
Speaker 1: date is wrote on the wall. I believe God knows
Speaker 1: this a date written on the wall. Ye when I'm
Speaker 1: gonna die. We don't know what it is. But I
Speaker 1: believe we all got a date. And I believe the
Speaker 1: only way we can get that date change is by
Speaker 1: they say, striking our parents. Say that again, by hitting
Speaker 1: our parents, they say, that's one of the way we
Speaker 1: lose our data. Are are day? Can no change that?
Speaker 1: We lose days all of our lives. Yeah, but by
Speaker 1: raising your hand and your parents. Bible says that that
Speaker 1: you like your days would be short on his earth.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Um, if it's if it's one thing, when
Speaker 1: I think it shook a lot of the times, and
Speaker 1: I'd be worried about is um. I think when Dre left,
Speaker 1: I think I think him and Dre Oh Okay, it happened. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think when when him and Dre specifically kind
Speaker 1: of fell apart, that was the end of Death Row.
Speaker 1: Not Las Vegas, Las Vegas, is um Las Vegas. I
Speaker 1: think it became obvious to everybody else. But when it
Speaker 1: happened to part oh Sen me scoot over here, when
Speaker 1: it happened more to pot like, I think that was
Speaker 1: the world's notice that Death Row was in, like it
Speaker 1: was over, because you knew at that point it wasn't gone,
Speaker 1: that it was never gonna be able to recover. The
Speaker 1: timeframe wasn't the time frame isn't quite. It's more condensed.
Speaker 1: But just like looking back at it from now and
Speaker 1: even at the time, it was like like the Nucleus,
Speaker 1: like the band had broken up at that point. It
Speaker 1: was Pacro you know, yeah, it was. It was chapter two.
Speaker 1: Do you. I'm gonna tell you right now, you should
Speaker 1: probably keep Reggs you on here for a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: like he stay on here so we can cut it
Speaker 1: up in Yeah, I hear you. Now, I gotta drop
Speaker 1: your camera though I hold him. No, No, we gotta
Speaker 1: switch you switch him around, switch me around, there you go,
Speaker 1: there go. Yeah. So um over, Oh yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, but I agree with you with that. And
Speaker 1: and Park was prolific. And it says that you could
Speaker 1: tell he knew he was gonna die, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he did things to um he was a little
Speaker 1: bit more prepared than everybody gave his credit for, Like
Speaker 1: he talked about it real early. It was weird out
Speaker 1: him and Biggie. We're so infatuated with death, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like so much conversation about death. I mean,
Speaker 1: like what a tune speaks life and death? A little
Speaker 1: bro Well, also, I just don't I think some people
Speaker 1: know that they're not here forever, but know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And that's biblical. Rigs. Would you tell him if you
Speaker 1: sit up and talk about that. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, No, I know, I totally get it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, sometimes people know they're going to die,
Speaker 1: like something about Nip right is he talked like that,
Speaker 1: you know, like he knew death wasn't far from him,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And he prepared for it as well.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the same thing with pop pop.
Speaker 1: Prepared for it. Um. I was explaining to the homie.
Speaker 1: I was explaining to the homie right that, um he
Speaker 1: was asking me about you know, because I messed with
Speaker 1: Nip and Kendrick and he was asking me how did
Speaker 1: I compare them? And I always say like, um, some
Speaker 1: people ask me that I do I get Kendrick from
Speaker 1: Pop and I'm like, nah, that's more Nip Nip and
Speaker 1: pop word. You know, when I read the stuff Park
Speaker 1: was about and talk to people that knew him over time,
Speaker 1: it's the same energy I get about Nipp. I mean
Speaker 1: Park was very how do I say like it was
Speaker 1: he was very purposeful. He didn't waste moments. Nip is
Speaker 1: the same way. You know what I mean Outside of
Speaker 1: like Nip like writing a verse and ship and taking
Speaker 1: some time, but he was purposeful. If he was gonna
Speaker 1: say it was gonna have some meaning. You got to
Speaker 1: think about it. Bro Um, Nip and Park both shared
Speaker 1: a similar thing that they were both really eloquent. They
Speaker 1: both kind of like you said, they didn't waste time.
Speaker 1: It was like they was on the mission. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you think about the way just Tupac came in
Speaker 1: this world, you know he's the son of a black panther.
Speaker 1: His mom is a Phoenie secure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And just the way he came up, man, he was
Speaker 1: like you know he you know, what he'd deal on
Speaker 1: this planet in this short time was real great. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he achieved a lot of stuff. He put
Speaker 1: out a lot of records. Output was real high. And
Speaker 1: you're right, it was almost like he was for go.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody were able to go to prison like
Speaker 1: you know, um oh three Greenys that his name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he dropped all on prog because he knew I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be going for a while and I could feed my family,
Speaker 1: and and and and and if you listen to other
Speaker 1: people around him talk, whether it's Snoop d As corrupt outlaws,
Speaker 1: any of those guys, they all talked about him like
Speaker 1: you know, we're in here, we need to go, we
Speaker 1: need to go. Let's get this ship done. Like he
Speaker 1: knew he was in a rush. He knew he was
Speaker 1: in the sound like you know. And this ain't no
Speaker 1: knock against the Outlaws, But a lot of them records
Speaker 1: sound like they couldn't keep up with him. Well they
Speaker 1: remember they were still kids. They still were kids to
Speaker 1: a degree, Like the Outlaws were like babies, Like I
Speaker 1: was listening to uh to because talk to other day. Um,
Speaker 1: what's brought his name? Um, Napoleon. Napoleon talked the other day.
Speaker 1: And they were like kids like Pac was twenty five.
Speaker 1: Them dudes were like seventeen, sixteen and eighteen and ship correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't seen hing to say they sounded bad, but
Speaker 1: you could tell like, no, no, they sound they sounded
Speaker 1: like they were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen and part sound like
Speaker 1: he had been a veteran of his business and and
Speaker 1: in the arts for years. You know. I mean them
Speaker 1: dude sound like dudes that was. They weren't Tupac. Tupac
Speaker 1: was trained to be the niggy he was as an
Speaker 1: artist and as just a voice in the community like
Speaker 1: he was trained to be, like he went to artistic schools,
Speaker 1: his parents was everything about his life was set up
Speaker 1: to be as theatrical as it was. Everything about this.
Speaker 1: You know. He was a thespian, He was an artist,
Speaker 1: he was a poet, you know, so he had um
Speaker 1: he just had a whole different field of me. And
Speaker 1: that's why I tell people when the conversation come up
Speaker 1: on who the best rapper was between him and Biggie
Speaker 1: and I see his comparing apples in Originist. Because Park
Speaker 1: had so much emotion, that's why people are more drawn
Speaker 1: to him. You know, you can see people need to
Speaker 1: need to God. Neither God. Snoop is the greatest hip
Speaker 1: hop artist of all time. Well only because Park didn't
Speaker 1: have as much time. Then we will be in a
Speaker 1: different conversation. I'm gonna tell you a story real quick. Bro.
Speaker 1: You remember me and Big Side when I was going
Speaker 1: on to Dubai, right, So, I was at the laundry
Speaker 1: Matt and Um and I was in Dubaio to laundry,
Speaker 1: met the hotel laundry and Lady Cell, you have really
Speaker 1: nice linen. Are you an entertainer? You know the people
Speaker 1: that appreciate nice shirts and stuff. She was like, this
Speaker 1: one just collar shirt I had. She said this is
Speaker 1: very nice. Are you an entertainer? And I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I make music? But kind you know, do you play guitar?
Speaker 1: You do this? No? I wrap? She said, I know
Speaker 1: one rapper, my favorite, Snoop Doggy Dog and this one
Speaker 1: was about semi five years old dog in Dubai. She said,
Speaker 1: Snoop doggo worldwide as an artist. Snoop and he's known
Speaker 1: for being a book. Yeah, me guard Brooks for the
Speaker 1: album of the Year in and Garth Brooks was that
Speaker 1: nigger Garth Brooks on Michael Jackson Hills. Garth Brookston saw
Speaker 1: some records. Um you do you ever feel like she
Speaker 1: was hurt by everything that was going on and the
Speaker 1: bullshit people were saying about him, even the people he
Speaker 1: looked out for. It hurt him. It hurt him that
Speaker 1: he was I mean, I know, I know he ain't
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not saying that he cry nothing. No, that's
Speaker 1: not how we get out. But I'm saying I know
Speaker 1: he had to feel like, damn, like I did all
Speaker 1: this ship for niggies and this fucked me. Huh. It
Speaker 1: hurt especially in two thousand five, two thousands, you know,
Speaker 1: after the bankruptcy and so and how people. You know,
Speaker 1: he felt like he had to push up on people
Speaker 1: to help him out and look out where he felt
Speaker 1: like if anybody acts or just reached out, he would
Speaker 1: always reach out. That's how living got that relationship. Everybody
Speaker 1: think he went up there with a motor. He was
Speaker 1: just putting some money on punk books. That was the
Speaker 1: only thing when he was thinking about. He didn't know.
Speaker 1: Unttally went up there and met with him. That was
Speaker 1: a possibility about a peal bond and all of that.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody, we don't know about the Peel bonds
Speaker 1: getting out on peal bonds. When you think, when you
Speaker 1: think about his case, it's so un California that that
Speaker 1: thought had to be crazy to hear him say, like,
Speaker 1: people don't know when POC got he's out on bill.
Speaker 1: Like listen to the first line of his first line
Speaker 1: of California levels out on bail, like he got killed,
Speaker 1: Like as that project is released, he got killed. Seven
Speaker 1: months later, he's on bail. So it was crazy. And
Speaker 1: somebody made a good point. I don't I think it
Speaker 1: was you or somebody else. They was like, yo, they
Speaker 1: both would have went to what they both would have
Speaker 1: went back to jail based off of what happened after Casino.
Speaker 1: They both would have went back to jail. They would have,
Speaker 1: both of them. But nobody would have known about it
Speaker 1: if that wouldn't happen, if they wouldn't have got shot.
Speaker 1: Orlando didn't report itself who Orlando was until two or
Speaker 1: three days later once called the PD got involved. Yeah
Speaker 1: we know him. Yeah, you know what would have happened though, man.
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate. You know, we was just entering that
Speaker 1: era where people were sending their reports out from the
Speaker 1: you know, videos and all that stuff. Would have took
Speaker 1: somebody to turn that video in from the casino to say, okay, um,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one question. This is kind
Speaker 1: of important. You know, you guys did some amazing stuff.
Speaker 1: And I don't think people understand sometimes the magnitude of
Speaker 1: with death Row meant to the music industry, because no
Speaker 1: one is no and not to the music industry, to
Speaker 1: the arts, to the arts. These niggas, No, it's like
Speaker 1: these niggas are Shakespearean. I get it. It doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like they they go together. But if you understand what
Speaker 1: arts is, they represent what Shakespeare represents to art. That's
Speaker 1: the first one to do high budget videos? Who is
Speaker 1: the first team that put out that little movie that
Speaker 1: they did on murder was the case? Who the first
Speaker 1: people that were walking around when they record labels on
Speaker 1: the next you know, who are the first one that
Speaker 1: did a wrap CD double CD. What I'm saying exactly
Speaker 1: as the question nobody was doing back in the day.
Speaker 1: Let me ask everybody, sugar so cold man marketing genius.
Speaker 1: Rig Let me ask you a question, bro. You know,
Speaker 1: we do a lot of work together, and I know
Speaker 1: you know you say some funny stuff. Sometimes it'd be true,
Speaker 1: would be funny, and some people get mad. Do you
Speaker 1: ever think, do you ever see a time where you
Speaker 1: could sit down with Snoop and get with Dash and
Speaker 1: all them guys and y'all reconciliate. Man, just because y'all
Speaker 1: did so much great ship together, you think that's possible.
Speaker 1: Who knows what you're doing with your old because by kids,
Speaker 1: you'll get all if he's seven years old, so he
Speaker 1: might have a different mindset, but she looks so much
Speaker 1: right now. I think you know that's something that's a
Speaker 1: little ways off. I'm talking about now, like if you
Speaker 1: could sit down with with Snoop and Dad's possibly and
Speaker 1: just you know, because I heard you and dads is
Speaker 1: real tight at one time you got you guys are
Speaker 1: running out when you're gonna read out to Dad when
Speaker 1: you took over the label. But if no, I have
Speaker 1: no benefit for him right now and and in his life,
Speaker 1: and he really had no benefit for me in my life.
Speaker 1: The only time people really get back together is when
Speaker 1: you have at each other. We can look at Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan and Pipper. You see how they're going at each
Speaker 1: other right now, what trust me, they're gonna somebody gonna
Speaker 1: reach out and make them do something. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be beneficial to one of them or both
Speaker 1: of them in order to do it. But that's generally
Speaker 1: when people unfortunately reach out to each other death or
Speaker 1: when one needs to profit or benefit off the other.
Speaker 1: If if you had to say it was an artist
Speaker 1: that that should sign, right, so right, this is when
Speaker 1: you run in the label, right, So this is when
Speaker 1: y'all put out. So you're you're, you're you're part of
Speaker 1: putting out revenge, retaliation and get back. Right. I was
Speaker 1: in charge of the album dealing with priority. Okay, so
Speaker 1: when you you know, Dad did all the production and
Speaker 1: pick that obviously obviously obviously yeah, obviously, Um if it
Speaker 1: was an artist that should told you to sign, he
Speaker 1: said he signed this person. He was like, why the
Speaker 1: hell will we sign this person? Who is that person?
Speaker 1: All right, we're the only artist that we signed while
Speaker 1: I was in charge. We did a whole bunch from Texas,
Speaker 1: and the mainly reason we did that from the guys
Speaker 1: from Texas well, number one. I had a good relationship
Speaker 1: with the realists, so I'm not going to say the realist.
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people wanted to say. The
Speaker 1: top Dog top Dog had that song going back to
Speaker 1: Cali um where he just sure sure top Dog was
Speaker 1: Snoop and the realist was pot But that's not uncommon.
Speaker 1: Like you know, once Biggie died, Puff sign shine correct.
Speaker 1: You know you it's a sign not crazy. The dude
Speaker 1: from what was the one that the DJ Quicken the
Speaker 1: i'm as signed uh most burg most you know, so,
Speaker 1: so people were into that at the uh at the time.
Speaker 1: But the artist that well, the album that we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have put out was of course Mr La Mr Lai's album.
Speaker 1: We knew that wasn't ready baby Face told us, and
Speaker 1: he told me he wished me the best of luck
Speaker 1: with it when when we put that album out, so
Speaker 1: we do that album wasn't ready. Um, but uh, Crooked
Speaker 1: Eye was the best signing in my opinion that that
Speaker 1: that that I got um during my my tenure UM
Speaker 1: and I got him from Big C Style and the
Speaker 1: artist that I should have gave a break to that
Speaker 1: we didn't. That I wish you would have got the
Speaker 1: first chance as a solo artist was this artist called
Speaker 1: super Fly. He had some good songs that was under
Speaker 1: DASK up. The one that I shouldn't have signed would
Speaker 1: be another guy that Dad's brought to us. But the
Speaker 1: reason why we signed him because I told should we
Speaker 1: I told SI the wrong name. Well when I told
Speaker 1: you the name, he thought I was talking about mcmore
Speaker 1: and I was talking about Max Sean. We got confused
Speaker 1: on So that might have been the artist that probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got signed. Um, but he had a lot
Speaker 1: of production down by dask and so that's the only
Speaker 1: reason we made him signed even put to him and
Speaker 1: Dad's a really type a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 1: they still type as a as as today. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we did some people like v K and do Be
Speaker 1: and all of them. They had wrote a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff on Drey's album for DOCT because they was up
Speaker 1: under the d O C. And so we mainly went
Speaker 1: out to them and signed them as good they deal
Speaker 1: Dog and all of them signed them because we're gonna
Speaker 1: go out to the publishing because they were telling us
Speaker 1: how they had wrote all this stuff and d OC
Speaker 1: got credit for it and Drake got credit for it,
Speaker 1: and um, we were going to use them to go
Speaker 1: out to them more some publishing, some publishing money. M hm,
Speaker 1: so older than that thing. I can't say any that
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have signed. I just think we should have.
Speaker 1: I wish the relationship with myself and dad would have
Speaker 1: stayed better. But you know, once he saw us, his
Speaker 1: cousin gets slapped on. That just messed up everything. Um
Speaker 1: and then UM who consumed that we should have put
Speaker 1: out would have been super flying crooked eye in my perio. Rig.
Speaker 1: You just can't say that didn't give us no context.
Speaker 1: He's talking about the situation with him, Miss snoop. Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't told you about three times on this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't. He listened to it. You don't listen
Speaker 1: to show now, he just asshole. That's messy. Pop Eyes
Speaker 1: run kicking out here too. You're talking about you said
Speaker 1: it only happened in the ghetto. My wife went to
Speaker 1: the Popeyees last week and they were out. But if
Speaker 1: that's your main thing, how the hell do you run
Speaker 1: the chicken? I do want. That's like mcdonald' running out
Speaker 1: of burden me and you look wrong a lot of
Speaker 1: about me, and you're being friends. We don't we talk
Speaker 1: about so much stuff. I don't never see up and
Speaker 1: ask you their froth questions. I got a couple of
Speaker 1: true or false. I really want to focus on shoog Man.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about that frog. Let
Speaker 1: me get this off. Yeah, I hate that he don't
Speaker 1: really get his love. Just the question because there's so
Speaker 1: much and you window out there about shook. He's like
Speaker 1: the Boogeyman of hip hop right now the sugar Knight really,
Speaker 1: um get off in Jermaine Duprix one more time. This
Speaker 1: shug Knight and Jermaine dupri really have a problem. Did
Speaker 1: he make Jermine to pre do some things? Did he
Speaker 1: have problems a little big norm? I'm sorry, Jermaine. Did
Speaker 1: he have problems with Jermaine dupri Because it was a promise.
Speaker 1: Little Ball was still signed to us when he did it,
Speaker 1: and he could have had me at any time. Uh,
Speaker 1: sue Jermaine dupri if he really wanted to, because little
Speaker 1: by Wall was technically signed the death row when when
Speaker 1: uh when he put him out, So if he really
Speaker 1: wanted to go up to Jermaine dupri he could out. Um.
Speaker 1: So I don't think so, Um, remember party with his
Speaker 1: boy Big Jake got killed, so he got on the
Speaker 1: plane to fly to a ladder to go support him. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't say that you ever had anything bad to
Speaker 1: say about d No Andre Real, get hands. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Andre he real. No Andre de Real made him look
Speaker 1: good with Cathy and Joe Joe and Mary j when
Speaker 1: he was running uptown. Listen, She'll didn't have to do
Speaker 1: She'll didn't have to do everything. Like, he's a lot
Speaker 1: more intelligent and smart than people give him credit. He's not.
Speaker 1: It's not just muscle like he you have to be smart,
Speaker 1: you can't. You could bully your way into the business,
Speaker 1: but you can't bully your way into success. It's just not.
Speaker 1: You eventually have to know some ship. So I think, like,
Speaker 1: because we don't have people really giving him his credit
Speaker 1: for the things he was able to do. Like when
Speaker 1: you hear the story about the whole in their life thing,
Speaker 1: you don't realize he's retrieving publishing for someone that has
Speaker 1: stole something Like it's like he just goes and takes
Speaker 1: for their lifes publishing like he just punking. No, he
Speaker 1: made sure some The next brother wrote he got it
Speaker 1: Chalcolate to go pound saying until that happened. Wow. You
Speaker 1: know Talcolate is the one that came to him that's
Speaker 1: always called people got merri when I called him Captain
Speaker 1: Stave a hole for men. That's how ship was SI
Speaker 1: all ship clos came behind going to back for other people. Listen.
Speaker 1: One of the last few times, like I was talking
Speaker 1: to him, he was hanging with Chris Brown, right and
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Chris, like right, And I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: why is you hanging with this nigga? Because like, why
Speaker 1: is you working with this? I asked him, Like and
Speaker 1: if you ask me to tell you, it's like, why
Speaker 1: is you hanging with him? And these dudes ain't on
Speaker 1: our caliber? No disrespect to CB, but like you know,
Speaker 1: he's not from the cut, he's not from the land.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, gee, I'm just trying to do something like, man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be hanged. I'm not, you know, hanging around
Speaker 1: nobody from out of town, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's like a successful entertainer trying to do what we do.
Speaker 1: I mean no, again, it's one of these things where
Speaker 1: I just never liked him being around certain people because
Speaker 1: to me, he's worth He's worth preserving, like he means
Speaker 1: something to all of our childhood that came up in
Speaker 1: our era. The reason why I asked you about Waving
Speaker 1: that I knew well I saw Wavy. Last time I
Speaker 1: saw Waving with was that the video shoot at the
Speaker 1: Malut's house. Uh for a little Wayne video shoot. I've
Speaker 1: seen that and was testling and playing in the front yard.
Speaker 1: I was so I was the one that was with
Speaker 1: walking around. That was just me, man, It was only
Speaker 1: too there. Yeah, from my point to say all of that,
Speaker 1: he was really hanging around a little Wayne because he
Speaker 1: was trying to get a little Wayne to come to him.
Speaker 1: Ship was looking forward that saving. He wanted to save.
Speaker 1: He needed an artist at that time. And so if
Speaker 1: he was hanging around, that's why him and IRV Gott
Speaker 1: he felt a lot. Most people don't know he was
Speaker 1: trying to snatch her. He was trying to snatch job
Speaker 1: rule from RV Gotti. He was just trying to find
Speaker 1: somebody to getting back over a basically got out. We'll
Speaker 1: know how that kind of worked out. Not well. Pete Pablo,
Speaker 1: when Pete Pablo came around, kind of messed that deal.
Speaker 1: Love for him and Nina how did how did he
Speaker 1: mess up the Pete Pablo I always wondered with that well,
Speaker 1: because he went up there and demanded more money for
Speaker 1: Pete Pablo and they said, you know what, and they
Speaker 1: put him on the shell. Pete Pablo had that hot song,
Speaker 1: that helicopter song, and that song went on yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he had so he was ready for a sophomore album. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then when they went in there and made all type
Speaker 1: of uh demands, the record label was like, we don't
Speaker 1: need to deal with you. It wasn't until he left
Speaker 1: Hill that they put out another song on him. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they ever dropped the album, but I
Speaker 1: know they did another single after that. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's so unfair because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you have to say, you can't say that Sugar was
Speaker 1: one of the greatest music exects of all time, and
Speaker 1: you have to put him right up there with Barry Gordy.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go that far. I wouldn't go as far as Berry Gordy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Barry Gordy way above everybody else. And
Speaker 1: then and then I'll go shig, you got the numbers
Speaker 1: that that thetations and all of them did. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But but Berry Gordy is. I always put a certain
Speaker 1: respect on Barry Gordy man what he was able to
Speaker 1: do is and then for how long he was able
Speaker 1: to do it. But I wouldn't be one. That's my
Speaker 1: point of sugar, And the reason being is because you
Speaker 1: have to give Drake at least half ships credit. What
Speaker 1: you got to give all the credit that you gotta
Speaker 1: get them easy credit, right, you gotta give him well
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, Dre is easy the best. That's
Speaker 1: where I talk about that what I'm saying because then
Speaker 1: into some degree, yeah, I guess that's fair. But Barry
Speaker 1: Gordy is just the I didn't tracks that I did
Speaker 1: myself on the back. I did over fifteen million record
Speaker 1: sales just in a little time that I was there
Speaker 1: that I was just responsible for. If you want, I
Speaker 1: got a question, I got a question for you, Red,
Speaker 1: what's your greatest record? Changes? By Wow? You did do changes?
Speaker 1: Changes with changes shook me and shook. Then they had
Speaker 1: a fight. I walked out of the visiting room oneing
Speaker 1: because he was mad at me. He heard the song,
Speaker 1: never heard the song before before it came out. Guess
Speaker 1: why he's mad at me because he found out the
Speaker 1: thief stouts and track masters was involved in it. Know
Speaker 1: they did do changes. Huh And they did do changes.
Speaker 1: They did changes like you let them, you let them
Speaker 1: mess with part he thieves goes. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that was that over? That was that
Speaker 1: actually up and and and it's one of the most
Speaker 1: important POC songs. Like it's special. Yeah, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: a good point. It's a good point. But what's funny
Speaker 1: is right? But what happened to death Row though? Right?
Speaker 1: What happened to death Row after Dre left? That's why
Speaker 1: I was smart. You went to the track masters. That's
Speaker 1: why it's smart. Because I can't take credit. Let me
Speaker 1: just say that I can't take credit for taking it
Speaker 1: to track track two track masters. That was Tom Wally doing.
Speaker 1: Tom was trying to sign the shout out the town
Speaker 1: all the way. But if I wouldn't have fought she'll
Speaker 1: go on it, it wouldn't. He wouldn't allowed it to happen.
Speaker 1: And she had to approve of everything, and she was
Speaker 1: there said against it to the point where he saw me.
Speaker 1: Then they had tears of eyes and get out and
Speaker 1: leave where he called me back in and said, Reggie,
Speaker 1: if you want to do it, do it. But people
Speaker 1: go hate you for it, and they didn't. Who the
Speaker 1: fucking That's one of the most important tool pop songs.
Speaker 1: And it talked about his life, It talked about every
Speaker 1: like that ship was great, and you know, what's the
Speaker 1: record that I wish I'll pushed that versus have been
Speaker 1: out before and I think Heaven got to get Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But but how they flipped it made it better. You
Speaker 1: know what's my favorite What's funny is my favorite Tupac
Speaker 1: song is doing your tenure unconditional love, unconditional love. I
Speaker 1: don't want to add the real thing there in the
Speaker 1: booth and all of that. When I get that red
Speaker 1: White made it all in red, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: video shoot this and all red and stuff and darkened
Speaker 1: out everything. You know, speaking of um, you know Tupac.
Speaker 1: Whose idea was it for Eminem to produce that album
Speaker 1: one more time? Whose idea was it for Tupac? For
Speaker 1: Eminem to produce that one Tupac album? He was off
Speaker 1: a death floor already, at that time, I believe who
Speaker 1: are you talking about? He took about Tupac album that
Speaker 1: Eminem worked on. Oh that was Tom Wally and that's
Speaker 1: probably Tim and Tom and Jimmy. That's like a no
Speaker 1: brander but changes that's that's funny. I I forgot that
Speaker 1: that's out. I'm telling you, sure knight when he wouldn't
Speaker 1: even allow that that music too went to to Is
Speaker 1: that actually? Is that actually the biggest tuopox song? Well?
Speaker 1: What did you what did you try to start that? Pay?
Speaker 1: But we don't know because it was on the greatest album.
Speaker 1: What happened is we contribute to new songs to the
Speaker 1: to the album and then State you know which when
Speaker 1: I said to the State, I'm talking about the stuff
Speaker 1: that he did with with um, you know, prior to
Speaker 1: coming to the the death row. They did two new songs
Speaker 1: on there, and then we had and then we did twelve.
Speaker 1: We did either eleven or twelve uh of his you
Speaker 1: know the best songs that was on mcavelly and uh
Speaker 1: uh all Eyes on Me and then they did the
Speaker 1: ones from you know, Brenda out a Baby and all
Speaker 1: of that. So that's how we did the greatest. We
Speaker 1: did twelve songs. They did twelve songs to make it
Speaker 1: a twenty four double c D and then two new phones.
Speaker 1: So that was the greatest album. But that's how that
Speaker 1: album was put together. Well, the question, I don't think
Speaker 1: I answered your question, Okay, um tupuck shangers, Um Gee,
Speaker 1: it started until I said, yeah, check this out. Golden
Speaker 1: Bills and Golden Denmark, gold in Germany, golden the Netherlands,
Speaker 1: New Zealand, Go Sweden, platinum, Switzerland, go um, United Kingdom platinum.
Speaker 1: And this man sold six hundred thousand units in the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom. And if you know the market over there,
Speaker 1: that's like somebody is selling on the island. Bro. Those
Speaker 1: are Beatles type numbers like you just don't like because
Speaker 1: to go um, because the certification in Ireland, Bro, it's
Speaker 1: only like ten thousand or something like that. It's a
Speaker 1: small island. But ain't nobody buying ain't nobody and ain't
Speaker 1: nobody buying hip hop? And nobody buying hip hop? That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They got a lot of people out there,
Speaker 1: but they're not hip hop. So that means if he
Speaker 1: sold six hundred units, he wouldn't platinum in the UK.
Speaker 1: If he sold six hundred thousand records. That means the
Speaker 1: people that weren't in the hip hop was behying his record.
Speaker 1: What you gotta think Changes, the kind of record Changes
Speaker 1: was was what he needed at that point. Changes became
Speaker 1: like this kind of hip hop joint that had a
Speaker 1: very broad appeal. You know. It wasn't like it's a
Speaker 1: special record. It's funny when you think of it, Peter,
Speaker 1: is that fair to say, you know, Changes by Tupac? Right? No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. Things. That's crazy when
Speaker 1: you think about it, that that was a song that
Speaker 1: was by far like his most popular song, like in
Speaker 1: my high school. Yeah, but because but that's also why
Speaker 1: I did so well overseas too. It did really well.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Rag, that's pretty good. You know what's funny,
Speaker 1: that's a song I know when they never came out,
Speaker 1: we would have never heard. Everybody came out when M
Speaker 1: and L did Um, you know, the the album that
Speaker 1: he did with the State or whatever. They might have
Speaker 1: put it out then, but who knows, they went away
Speaker 1: that long track masters probably would take it somewhere else,
Speaker 1: you know, in in California. It's probably my favorite record
Speaker 1: from that time. Well, Unconditional Love is my favorite two
Speaker 1: part record because I remember when in California came out,
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, when with Casey and Joe Joe, would
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, had you all taken
Speaker 1: off that song? Had Casey and Jojo put on there
Speaker 1: and had it released? Uh? The song was that thugging you?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jo was initially on there. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why she could be upset with this fucking Casey and
Speaker 1: Joe Joe for crying out of times you gotta play ball.
Speaker 1: Um damn, I'm thinking about that. That's fucking crazy. I
Speaker 1: remember that he was driving Gangster Car from Santana all
Speaker 1: through that video that that purple car was Gangster Carr
Speaker 1: and Dass video in California, California, that was baby Gaster Car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we took up, went up to opening. I went
Speaker 1: up to opening with him on that. What happened? You know?
Speaker 1: What did you do that? Did you do the Hammer Project? No,
Speaker 1: Hamverd did that. He's Hamberd pretty much took that album
Speaker 1: We need Leo and and he went in and put
Speaker 1: it on his own. So y'all never got y'all never
Speaker 1: got a Hammer project. So Rick he had so much
Speaker 1: love for Himmer. He just left everybody. Man. People love
Speaker 1: him for sure, all right. He gave uh put books
Speaker 1: about you know a few months ago. Dog listen, Shug
Speaker 1: did really great things for people. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: none of us are above no, we all did our bullshit,
Speaker 1: but he did some really great things. And and people
Speaker 1: don't talk about that like I just like, I get it.
Speaker 1: But man, no, no one man is that fucked up.
Speaker 1: He made mistakes like anybody else, but he did some
Speaker 1: fucking fantastic things that he's under credited for. And I
Speaker 1: just wish people come together and just give you some flower.
Speaker 1: This nigga might not be with us forever. I don't
Speaker 1: want this nigga to die. He nigga's to start. They
Speaker 1: didn't give him this. Laws don't do that my nigga,
Speaker 1: like this man. He easily could not make it home.
Speaker 1: My mom didn't make it home. You feel me like
Speaker 1: you might not make it home. So why the fund
Speaker 1: can't we not talk about how great he was? Sure?
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. How at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, huh, how is his health? I hear
Speaker 1: say that he was on the streets and not taking
Speaker 1: care of yourself. People don't know, she'll have a bad
Speaker 1: kage of diabetes. Bad. And he was out there using
Speaker 1: the medication that the doctor prescribed for as father to
Speaker 1: uh and he was just taking it. Figure they had
Speaker 1: the same jeans or whatever, or it was working for
Speaker 1: him or whatever. But the one good thing about him
Speaker 1: going to prison is now, once you go to prison,
Speaker 1: that's the one and going to see medical style because
Speaker 1: you can get away from all the bulls and and
Speaker 1: if you shut the funk up, you have a little
Speaker 1: bit of peace. Yeah, shut the funk up. You have
Speaker 1: some peace in that motherfucker. You're not stressed out. You're
Speaker 1: not running around with with CB, you're not running around
Speaker 1: with a little while, you're not running around chasing that
Speaker 1: the ship. Yeah yeah, yeah. Stressing yourself out about what's
Speaker 1: going on. It's like you have no control when you're
Speaker 1: on the inside. That's why niggas usually come home with
Speaker 1: black hair. Niggas come on from jail, they still don't
Speaker 1: be looking like, oh man, they don't even be stressed out.
Speaker 1: Go to jail, come on looking younger than because you're
Speaker 1: not stressed out with this the streets problems, the world problem,
Speaker 1: bills and silly ship real quick because you're a little
Speaker 1: the little Wayne was Sugar was making moves and I
Speaker 1: knew around that time was he trying to snatch a
Speaker 1: little Wayne from cash money? That's what his intent was.
Speaker 1: But Baby saw it. Maybe I remember with at the
Speaker 1: club the night before and Baby wouldn't even come over there,
Speaker 1: and at the Palms the night before that video shop
Speaker 1: then and he just stayed away, so he knew what
Speaker 1: should go. And he kind of looked up the shog
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I used to call and I used
Speaker 1: to connect the on the phone and he just was like,
Speaker 1: actually all these motherfucker's looked up the Shugars man masterp
Speaker 1: all these how not. They wasn't calling. They wasn't calling.
Speaker 1: They were they were kind of lightweight this and and
Speaker 1: so you just told me what mc tim wanted to
Speaker 1: do with a song? You know, what do you want
Speaker 1: to say? So they all I don't. I don't. But
Speaker 1: even even Mac don't have nothing bad to say. I
Speaker 1: think Mac wanted to sell records back. Don't have nothing
Speaker 1: bad to say about Shugar, never like personally talking to
Speaker 1: him that like never, I don't think I actually met Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I met a nigga personally outside of
Speaker 1: his niggas, his own people that know him and feel
Speaker 1: know how they feel. But most people personally don't have
Speaker 1: nothing bad to say about Shook outside and win the camerazon,
Speaker 1: the camera zone. It's a show. And I and I
Speaker 1: talking wrong. If he made a circle too big, you know,
Speaker 1: like Lebron James, he only take care of four niggas.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, you take it of
Speaker 1: four dudes that came from college or three however, mean
Speaker 1: it was three or four and they look out and
Speaker 1: make sure they're all straight. She was trying to take
Speaker 1: care of too many dudes, and that's and that's what
Speaker 1: I think it's problem was he should have took care
Speaker 1: about four or five dudes and they posted cupting circles
Speaker 1: and isolated and then everybody else will just be like
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he was trying to take care of
Speaker 1: too many people, and then they all got envy of
Speaker 1: each other. And you can't take care of everybody, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna fight, and they're gonna FIGHTNNA fight for your love,
Speaker 1: They're gonna fight for it. They're gonna fight. Nigga's gonna
Speaker 1: start telling and that's just how it does happen and
Speaker 1: I have had to happen to me without without should success.
Speaker 1: I mean where it's like people around start fighting for
Speaker 1: your attention and your and your recognization and they started
Speaker 1: smugging other niggas around. Hey, what niggas is arguing? Mad
Speaker 1: at the size of his reign and his change. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why are you worried about that? You know, I just
Speaker 1: don't get that. Um, I didn't get I didn't get
Speaker 1: that one of the last time. No, it was about
Speaker 1: two thousand, right before I went to jail. So I
Speaker 1: went in two thousand nineteen. So sometimes in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen, he called, you know when he called and
Speaker 1: he gave me a little snorted, a little snippet interview
Speaker 1: when he when he was announced that Ray j and
Speaker 1: U and Nick Cannon didn't have all the rights, you know,
Speaker 1: like they were saying, and he said, if anybody got
Speaker 1: a deal for me to contact is real toy. And
Speaker 1: he gave me that little interview and I and I
Speaker 1: put it out. Do you think shoot that down? Do
Speaker 1: you think that? Do you think of somebody? Do you
Speaker 1: think of somebody wanted to make a TV show and
Speaker 1: shool do you think the powers that be would black
Speaker 1: Man brick l a rick Um. I don't know most
Speaker 1: of you are knowing, but he's like she'd go. He
Speaker 1: was like she was like assistant or the guy that
Speaker 1: was making phone calls and stuff for him like that.
Speaker 1: He had him meet with well Matt Bournes and now
Speaker 1: had him meet with the fifty cent boss. And so
Speaker 1: that was always funny to me when they said, oh,
Speaker 1: fifty need to do this orift need to do this.
Speaker 1: She go was on the phone with his boss and
Speaker 1: he messed that deal up. My point being too, it's
Speaker 1: people out there, they want to do it, but she
Speaker 1: got a humble, humble himself, and I don't think he
Speaker 1: had enough time or have enough people all there to
Speaker 1: to to do that yet. And so that's why I'm
Speaker 1: on a bladd interview about a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I need to leave ship alone and
Speaker 1: let him go in there and do his time and
Speaker 1: give him about seven to ten years and then he'd
Speaker 1: be ready to do it right, because now he'll still
Speaker 1: be clowning everybody because he feels he still feel like
Speaker 1: he's on top of the world. And sometimes we gotta
Speaker 1: be humble man, and I don't see the humble and
Speaker 1: anny at that time. I haven't talked to him in
Speaker 1: a while, and so maybe he would be humble. He's
Speaker 1: more humble now because you think about it. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard from him in a while, so he may be
Speaker 1: on a humble tip right now. But if you listen
Speaker 1: to the recordings that were released on Reggie Wright, uh,
Speaker 1: both sides of the fence, and there's the chronicles and
Speaker 1: he's still talking to laughing and playing niggas against each other. Y'all. See,
Speaker 1: he's not humble. Nobody knew him like you did, though
Speaker 1: you was with him every day. He was just writing
Speaker 1: in man, and used to tell me about the trips
Speaker 1: you have to take up there. How texing was that
Speaker 1: on you to be able to you know, you're running
Speaker 1: the multime meellion down the record company and you gotta
Speaker 1: go check in with the guy that's the owner. How
Speaker 1: taxing was that for you? Man? This ain't worth it,
Speaker 1: not until after, not until I came home and we
Speaker 1: went right back to the same bullshit, going to the clubs,
Speaker 1: getting in the fights at the gate and stuff like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: so you thought the first time it would have matured
Speaker 1: Eve and made him like I gotta I got an opportunity,
Speaker 1: let me take advantage. And he came home just kind
Speaker 1: of still on. It's too long. Yeah, And so the
Speaker 1: point is, yeah, well, oh I don't like talking about
Speaker 1: any no more. I just wished she would have been
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And this ain't about negativity. It's about no I know,
Speaker 1: I can tell you you. Yeah, like the support of
Speaker 1: him and and and and we supposed to though and
Speaker 1: them niggas is whether they admitted that them niggas is
Speaker 1: you seel me. But again, everybody want to be what
Speaker 1: he was, you know what I'm saying. Everybody wanna have
Speaker 1: that lord. But I don't think we talked about a
Speaker 1: genius enough. I think we focus on the bullshit. And
Speaker 1: it's some bullshit. She I'm gonna tell you all like this.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important to us as West Coast people,
Speaker 1: you know exactly, platform as West Coast people, we have
Speaker 1: to uphold all of them everyone because and this is
Speaker 1: what drives me crazy, right, is they celebrate Clarence Avonny.
Speaker 1: If you know the stories of Clarence Avant man, he
Speaker 1: ain't that different than ship at all. I asked Teddy
Speaker 1: Riley about a von Let me get some stories, everybody.
Speaker 1: He's the one they called the black guyfather, right, So
Speaker 1: they make all these ship about the exactly they make
Speaker 1: all these ships about their guys, right and in all
Speaker 1: due respect to these coasts, because they're really intelligent at this. Right.
Speaker 1: They made a hundred documentaries about el Matic. Jay Z
Speaker 1: is making documentaries about rock Nation, you know, Rockefeller, the
Speaker 1: should I'm not uphold like I'm not and I don't
Speaker 1: have to lie. So when I'm on when I'm on
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club and I'm talking about nice contribution to
Speaker 1: hip hop, I'm not gonna lie for him. Oh if
Speaker 1: we focus on the truth, the truth, and he's a
Speaker 1: fucking monster with this ship and what he was able
Speaker 1: to do, none of you motherfucker's could funk with him.
Speaker 1: And right, And it's the same thing with Snoop. If
Speaker 1: Snoop is the greatest hip hop artist, he because he's
Speaker 1: the greatest cultural phenomenon that ever came from our culture.
Speaker 1: That's all say that, And I love all that, but
Speaker 1: I love do, love and and and it's not about that.
Speaker 1: Pop didn't get a chance, man, He didn't get a chance.
Speaker 1: That was no. No. I know, but you're you're talking
Speaker 1: about somebody that's been in this music business for thirty years,
Speaker 1: solidifying their legacy, doing great thing. Now. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funk pok would be doing in thirty years.
Speaker 1: This would be a whole different conversation to compare him
Speaker 1: to right. But I would tell you this, I truly believed.
Speaker 1: I thought he'd have stopped rapping. I think he would
Speaker 1: have approached status dog. I think he would have been
Speaker 1: Will Smith. I think he would have been with Niggas
Speaker 1: either be like man, you Niggas is crazy and I'm
Speaker 1: not working with this ship. But he was already there.
Speaker 1: But but my point is people will say that silly ship.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's silly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They think it's about silly ship. The thing about Pockey
Speaker 1: just didn't have enough time, Like he just didn't have
Speaker 1: enough time. It's like Biggie, like he didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong with podcast more projects to be
Speaker 1: crazy than me. That he's been put in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, the Rocket War. They always want to do
Speaker 1: park and then do stuff for Biggie. Biggie don't have
Speaker 1: enough because his people, because his people fight for him,
Speaker 1: they fight for him, they fight, and and that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about I told my part of this two
Speaker 1: years ago. I say, man, I want to do something
Speaker 1: dope for Sugar leggis se. I want to do something
Speaker 1: great for Drey's legacy. I want to do something great
Speaker 1: for Snoop's legacy, Warren GE's legacy. I don't know, he
Speaker 1: just got a he just got a star on the
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame, like a couple of days ago. And
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what I mean, like after all
Speaker 1: this time, Dr D But I think, yeah, that was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was Snoop right. So, but it's crazy that like
Speaker 1: Dr Dre should clearly be celebrated as the greatest producer
Speaker 1: because it's not about actually the hardcore facts. It's about
Speaker 1: how you campaign. And I think we don't camp even then.
Speaker 1: Even then, it's about even then, it's about campaigning. Like
Speaker 1: you know, you've been a part of this business. To
Speaker 1: be in the Grammy organization, you have to be a
Speaker 1: part of the Grammy board and submit. That ain't simple.
Speaker 1: It's like we just take all the records and we
Speaker 1: picked the ones. No, you have to be a part.
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and anything else. I think we don't go
Speaker 1: hard enough for our legends. Should being a card in
Speaker 1: the one easy being another cardinal one. As far as executives,
Speaker 1: these are probably two of the most important executives in
Speaker 1: the history of hip hop or music, and they're not
Speaker 1: celebrated like the other guys. Yeah, what Tupuc was the
Speaker 1: first solo hip hop artist to ever be inducted into
Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And you have
Speaker 1: to ask yourself if, yeah, if he wasn't the Sea,
Speaker 1: if Snoop is not in the hall, rock and Roll
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the Sloop not in this ship? How
Speaker 1: ship not talking about how big in it? Forget all
Speaker 1: of that. How is big? Because they can't they can't
Speaker 1: paying for him. Reggie, when I tell you glasses had um,
Speaker 1: you had a thing. What's that room that you like
Speaker 1: going on clubhouse? Clubhouse? We had a thing on Clubhouse
Speaker 1: where we get a versus for Tupuck versus Biggie. I
Speaker 1: left that motherfucker after while because it was so many
Speaker 1: New York people. They got the cheating dog like they
Speaker 1: had Biggie Records that was beating Tupac Records because it
Speaker 1: was all New York people and they're voting, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's some bullshit. I'm just chat. It's hard
Speaker 1: for us to ever be biased, right because if you
Speaker 1: like hip hop and eighties you grew up to East
Speaker 1: Coast sucking hip hop. Well she gee, I was very
Speaker 1: non biased, you see. I voted on the one because
Speaker 1: better than this Tuth because because if you liked hip
Speaker 1: hop in the eighties, right, then you grew up on
Speaker 1: East Coast hip hop and ain't getting out of it.
Speaker 1: But they didn't grow up on West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 1: They was greatly saying, Reggie, oh yeah, I like that
Speaker 1: Tuthparc record. But I'm right with big big New York
Speaker 1: people feel like they have some sort of profit sharing
Speaker 1: equity in hip hop in general from the yeah, and
Speaker 1: then well that's feeling because they were there and they
Speaker 1: were contributed to the culture. Somehow, somebody says it's better
Speaker 1: than this than they're guys record that like slights their
Speaker 1: own identity. It's like like all cigar lives are full
Speaker 1: of old guys from New York and all the same
Speaker 1: thing is so personal about it but what's funny is
Speaker 1: in real time Peter, that was Peter talk. That's sorry. Wow,
Speaker 1: what's funny is a lot of he got a lot
Speaker 1: of smart. Yeah, man, I learned a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of soaring is Soaring is great at sowing my
Speaker 1: ship together. When I have two ideas, he connects, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the person that But let me say this,
Speaker 1: So the niggas in New York didn't even show Biggie
Speaker 1: all the love in real time, Like niggas was this
Speaker 1: and Biggie like I was looking that ship up and
Speaker 1: I was like a lot of niggas was this big
Speaker 1: selling more than big back then? It wasn't get better.
Speaker 1: Mr still did better than all Ready to Die? Remember
Speaker 1: that and Nigga's sleep and niggas this LLL A lot
Speaker 1: New York do not put enough proper respect on the
Speaker 1: legend that is LLL coo J. I've always said that
Speaker 1: like allle was everybody's nick. We all everybody around the
Speaker 1: country loved l L. Yeah, well it's like a lu queens.
Speaker 1: You guys don't know like to can be like gon
Speaker 1: do like the media bias though on it, like as
Speaker 1: far as the purest you know, paradigm on nonsense, like
Speaker 1: the Chronic got like jobbed for a Grammy for Onyxes
Speaker 1: album Onxes album over a Chronic and the Chronic was
Speaker 1: like politically driven still to go with everything, Adam really good.
Speaker 1: We've been guard Brooks the country a country act with
Speaker 1: doggy style. Yeah, from New York. They wouldn't They couldn't compete.
Speaker 1: At that time, death became death Row became well, I
Speaker 1: think death New York one of one of the um
Speaker 1: Snoop's number one market, wasn't that one of his top
Speaker 1: markets country music? No I'm talking, wasn't New York one
Speaker 1: of his top markets for sale? It had to be
Speaker 1: if you're gonna wine when they started hating, That's why
Speaker 1: everybody always thinks that East Coast West Coast beef was
Speaker 1: beyond death Row and bad boys always said no. The pds,
Speaker 1: the radio directors, that was the program directors, that was
Speaker 1: that called that be They stopped playing West Coast music
Speaker 1: like like they didn't play like the West Coast pds played.
Speaker 1: You came out here and Kelly or Texas or whatever,
Speaker 1: you heard Biggie music all day. Biggie was at the
Speaker 1: palace least once a month. Performing at the clubs out
Speaker 1: here in l A. And you know what, we should
Speaker 1: have shut that motherfucker down, because that's what I always
Speaker 1: hated about l A radio. They was always on the
Speaker 1: East coast nets Man and you go back East Dog.
Speaker 1: They wasn't trying to support us like that. They didn't.
Speaker 1: Most people don't even know who Sugar for You is
Speaker 1: on the East coasts. That's that's a that's a that's
Speaker 1: a hip hop travesty. To not enjoy the brilliance a
Speaker 1: fucking sugar Free. Name somebody who of all he's got
Speaker 1: with four features albums, he's got five solo albums. Name
Speaker 1: a track than sugar Free has been on. Where the
Speaker 1: other guy on the track, no matter who the hell
Speaker 1: it was, sounded as good as him on that track
Speaker 1: sugar Everything he come on, I don't think really sugar Free.
Speaker 1: What's funny? Sugar Free is such an underrated rapper, Like
Speaker 1: he's Arizona for sure. He stops at got Right in Aza.
Speaker 1: But what's what's surprising is how many people are discovering
Speaker 1: him now on the East Coast on their own. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of my partners, they like that sugar Free ship.
Speaker 1: It's dope. But but also I think that's our fault.
Speaker 1: We have to do a much better job of carrying
Speaker 1: our coach. You mean we don't do a good job.
Speaker 1: Too Short had the pimp and stuff. Back then we
Speaker 1: would listen to Too Short In New York. They the shortest.
Speaker 1: The original Short is the original. Oh yeah short. But
Speaker 1: I didn't he was more. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: got ran out of Oakland or he just migrated to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But by going to Atlanta I think helped him a
Speaker 1: lot as well. When he talked to me about it,
Speaker 1: and he said he ended up down there just on
Speaker 1: some like saving money ship. Right. Yeah, you know he's
Speaker 1: from he's from a leg to a teenager. He moves
Speaker 1: up to Oakland. He's doing this thing with Dean and
Speaker 1: them and all the guys, and he's popping. But it's
Speaker 1: a time when things is getting drawn on the West
Speaker 1: Coast after poc right, things is getting dry. It's not
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. He said. He went down there,
Speaker 1: he said, like freak NICKI went Braas. But he said
Speaker 1: when he went down and looked at the cost of living,
Speaker 1: he said, hm, I need to you know, he made
Speaker 1: a finan your decision and it ended up being one
Speaker 1: of the greatest business decisions he made. It was to
Speaker 1: save money, but he ended up in where Little John
Speaker 1: was starting to really you know, you kind of make
Speaker 1: the same case for like pimp going to Atlanta. Not
Speaker 1: for the money because it's cheaper in Port Arthur than
Speaker 1: anywhere in the universe, but like he stumbled into Atlanta
Speaker 1: at the right time to help his career. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was Short, but Short has always seemed to find himself
Speaker 1: historically in the right places. Got a good dude because
Speaker 1: I hit him the other day. Whenever I hit Short,
Speaker 1: he's one of the O g rappers that hits me
Speaker 1: break back immediately if he don't hit like that, because
Speaker 1: I know a whole bunch of these dudes and they
Speaker 1: had take like two weeks to hit you back. And
Speaker 1: it's cool. You know what I'm saying. I'm not tripping,
Speaker 1: but Short, it's always the same person. Iced Tea is
Speaker 1: the same way. I know Iced Tea. I'm like Ice Man,
Speaker 1: I got an idea, Man, Tim, did you think about this?
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, give me a second. I'm on this.
Speaker 1: Ask what you said. The nigga is responding to my
Speaker 1: text message on the set of a Hollywood TV show. So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's some people who take their role, and
Speaker 1: I think Snoop has gotten better taking this role as
Speaker 1: an elder, a lot better. Like it was a time
Speaker 1: when it was real bad. When we first came in
Speaker 1: the game, it was like fucked up Snoop. You know
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about Snoop g and I'm
Speaker 1: as say this publicly. Um, And I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: because he has to do it, but it's kind of like, Um,
Speaker 1: it's one of the things I'm talking about. Eight asked
Speaker 1: Snoop to come on the show and he hit him
Speaker 1: with He just looked at him, said I think about it.
Speaker 1: But if them dudes, Gilly and them hit them back
Speaker 1: East or whoever hit them back East, you would see
Speaker 1: Snoop pop up on the stepping with them. Nor You're
Speaker 1: bevery with James, you know, Reggie right, Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: be over there a little bit. Them nig has been
Speaker 1: talking bad about dog. I don't like that ship. Y'all
Speaker 1: niggas could say that ship for mother niggas, But I mean, no,
Speaker 1: we really talk bad about Snoop, say about yeah, because
Speaker 1: Snoop told the story about things where he called him
Speaker 1: out on Yeah, so did he not fun to come
Speaker 1: to do your show? You're not. You can't just be
Speaker 1: over there talking about the dog. Yeah. Woman still ain't
Speaker 1: saying nothing about the dog. It's not normous, you not
Speaker 1: but you. It's not just you, it's James. It's his past.
Speaker 1: It's about it. And I'm gonna tell you this is
Speaker 1: the honest to god true Snoop. Maybe six seven months ago,
Speaker 1: eight months ago, he reached out the James through you know,
Speaker 1: fine Me, through the Honi Joseph Finbie, right, so we
Speaker 1: got a bridge with each other. He reached out the
Speaker 1: James to Finebie, but he never called He asked for
Speaker 1: James number and everything. He's never called him. You're figured
Speaker 1: out men here do things on his time. But all
Speaker 1: them dudes got a lot of history. Let me clear
Speaker 1: this up for somebody running back. Snoop is not obligated
Speaker 1: to come on against the Chronicles or nothing else. He's
Speaker 1: the motherfucking dog. He could do what he wants to.
Speaker 1: You're the king of the coast. But I don't think
Speaker 1: if he don't funk with the coach, I think, like
Speaker 1: the more I get about Snoop, and you know this,
Speaker 1: is crazy. And this goes back to Sugar even more so,
Speaker 1: he created probably one of the five most popular people
Speaker 1: on the planet Earth. Now it don't seem as popular
Speaker 1: as it is, right, But who's more popular than Snoop
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson, Jesus. Maybe, I mean, because Jesus
Speaker 1: is so many different Jesus. I don't know what Jesus
Speaker 1: Jesus because because Jesus, because we don't all share the
Speaker 1: same image into Jesus. But we know we all know Jesus.
Speaker 1: So Jesus, I'm not I'm really careful with my words.
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson. And it's gonna get thin with niggas,
Speaker 1: and and and again. I had to realize this fucking
Speaker 1: with him, and I tell like, I told him that
Speaker 1: just like Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan Snoop might be the same,
Speaker 1: Collie Brown and Snow might be the same. They might
Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan's Snoop might be the same. Michael Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg is as popular as Michael Jordan's. Yes, Michael Jordan's Yes,
Speaker 1: most we don't even know Michael Jordan is. They know
Speaker 1: about Jordan's shoes. They don't know that Michael Jordan's. They
Speaker 1: don't know shi about Michael Jordan. Snoop Dogg is Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: People don't know Michael Jordan's exactly stupid as commercial and
Speaker 1: the right. We were just talking about Mike the other day.
Speaker 1: Mike is the greatest score and to guard ever. But
Speaker 1: we this is this. You your dig this, and I
Speaker 1: gotta get about there. You dig this. Scottie Pippen has
Speaker 1: been complaining about how Michael Jordan has been pushing his
Speaker 1: narrative right now. Right after winning the championships, Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: was a lot more grateful to Scottie Pippen, you know,
Speaker 1: and Dennis Rome and he you know, I always tell
Speaker 1: people I grew up, you know, I'm I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm an infant of the eighties, right, so I remember
Speaker 1: the eighties, and I remember what niggas would say about Jordan's.
Speaker 1: Niggas don't have the highest praise none of that ship.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, that naked dump he could score,
Speaker 1: that's all you get. But in the nineties when he
Speaker 1: started to win, right, they got Scottie. Scottie started helping
Speaker 1: him and they start putting it together. They put their
Speaker 1: run together, came back the second time, Shock put work
Speaker 1: on him. They got robbing to put their second run together.
Speaker 1: Right after that, people didn't start saying Michael Jordan was
Speaker 1: the greatest until after he retired, because you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: like Magic Johnson, you had just watched Magic Johnson dominate
Speaker 1: the eighties. You went, you watched him one five ships,
Speaker 1: three m vps, two finals, MVP in the finals every
Speaker 1: other year, you know, nine ten times you had seen
Speaker 1: dominators before. You wasn't that far removed from what Bill
Speaker 1: Russell had did in the sixties. You wasn't that far
Speaker 1: removed from greatness. So Michael Jordan was challenged. When he
Speaker 1: had three rings, people was like, yeah, that's cool, you
Speaker 1: got three rings. That's that's nice. And and the second
Speaker 1: read people was like, because I remember watching, I was
Speaker 1: like when he won this, til ain't your tips, Like
Speaker 1: he might be the best. So I think he got
Speaker 1: a time to sit with it since ninety eight and
Speaker 1: decide like, damn I might. I'm really the best, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then it's been going to
Speaker 1: his head and and over the time he's been doing
Speaker 1: really weird stuff to me, you know, the lands dance
Speaker 1: and all this stuff where it's like you're making this
Speaker 1: a little too personal. We already made it about you, nigga.
Speaker 1: We made it about you. We did that for you.
Speaker 1: But when you start doing it, it's like when Lebron
Speaker 1: called himself the best basketball player on the planet. My nigga,
Speaker 1: I've never in my life heard nobody say that. Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Shaquille O'Neill, never heard nobody say I'm the
Speaker 1: best basketball player on the planet. So when you start
Speaker 1: making it about yourself, you almost put yourself in a
Speaker 1: position now to where people was like, hold up. And
Speaker 1: so Scottie is like, wait a minute, you didn't have
Speaker 1: a winning season until I played with you, right, So
Speaker 1: I compared it to I said, Michael Jackson is Michael Jordan's,
Speaker 1: but Scottie Pippen is Temperton the way we remember Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan at the highest level. Right, it's because about Scott though,
Speaker 1: what do you think about pucking out and uh when
Speaker 1: they had that boy from the that uh number seven,
Speaker 1: I can't think his name, the European player that they
Speaker 1: had on the I mean you mean you mean when
Speaker 1: Phield Drew to play up for him instead of instead
Speaker 1: of Pipping. Remember what I remember about Scottie Pippen is
Speaker 1: when he was guarding Matt Johnson and we lost to
Speaker 1: the Motherfucker's That's what I remember. I remember that only one.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and it hurt my heart. So I'm
Speaker 1: aware of exactly who Scottie Pipping is to the team.
Speaker 1: But Michael Jackson, right, Michael Jackson without Rock with You
Speaker 1: and the Thriller album and Thriller, the song itself, that video,
Speaker 1: he's Prince Thriller, He's prince, He's Prince without Thriller, Without Thriller,
Speaker 1: he was bigger than that before Thriller. Then they did
Speaker 1: the Pepsi commercial before Thriller. Remember remember that, Remember that's
Speaker 1: part of that's Rock with You. So without Rober So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, rob getting this here, catching on fire
Speaker 1: from from from from from the pep Pepsi commercial before.
Speaker 1: But I still think he was just ours at that point.
Speaker 1: I still think he was just our community at that point,
Speaker 1: like he was starting to get out there. But Thriller
Speaker 1: transition him into a place to where I'm up. I
Speaker 1: was looking transition transitioned, He transitioned into a version of
Speaker 1: himself like we've never seen that before we had never
Speaker 1: seen what Michael Jackson had became after Thriller. But then
Speaker 1: he showed you in black or white. No no, not
Speaker 1: not no no, like a Hundio remember Thriller. That he
Speaker 1: didn't have neo writers that before Chris Browns. So he
Speaker 1: needed Scott So in other words, you said he needed
Speaker 1: a Scottie Pippen, he needed rod Temperature. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that's what Rodney Jerkins the Thriller down. And it didn't
Speaker 1: work out. Yeah, it didn't work out. But but that's
Speaker 1: my But that's my point though, right, is the Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's So not us who watched sports, right, who watched basketball.
Speaker 1: We know Michael Jordan as a score. We watched him
Speaker 1: do his thing. But the way the rest of the
Speaker 1: world hold him his marketing tag. What you talk about
Speaker 1: is six and oh you talk about the fact he's six,
Speaker 1: and you talk about his m vps, you talk about
Speaker 1: that type of dominance. Right, that's where got You know,
Speaker 1: we got fucker players bigger than Michael Jordan's. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: messing out of the country. Maga ban them niggas might
Speaker 1: be Snoop Dogg's eyes little though Nick's and that ship
Speaker 1: night man, she got that ship right. When he got
Speaker 1: it right. Man, when he got it right, he got
Speaker 1: it right. When I said you Shi got it right,
Speaker 1: he got it right. The times she got it right, Snoop,
Speaker 1: he got it right. They got that him and Dre
Speaker 1: got that ship right. Like I never give Snoop just credit.
Speaker 1: You know the monster that should and Drake created with
Speaker 1: Snoop dog You gotta give him credit for the chronic.
Speaker 1: You gotta give him credit for dog stad. You gotta
Speaker 1: give him credit for murder with the case. You gotta
Speaker 1: give him credit for the dog food all in the contract. Now,
Speaker 1: everything I see you be on bond first on Nick
Speaker 1: is gonna talk bad. But in the contract, I've never
Speaker 1: seen this ship. Even when I signed the cash money,
Speaker 1: I didn't have no ship like this in the contract
Speaker 1: that Tupac Hand wrote. I'm we're gonna do a podcast
Speaker 1: about this that Tupac Hand wrote he wrote for a year.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm talking about the one that he wrote
Speaker 1: in his hand, right, okay, right? He wrote feature with
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. And then he had the one remix song
Speaker 1: by Dre who puts another rapper. That's how great that
Speaker 1: monster that Sugar and Drake created is a stoop dogg.
Speaker 1: He knew it. I'm only coming there if this is
Speaker 1: where I'm coming. And I said this on the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club and the nigga got mad at me, and obviously
Speaker 1: every Tupop fake fan because I'm a real tuthpop fan.
Speaker 1: I actually really grew up listening to Tupac music. I'm
Speaker 1: actually a fan of him. It actually bothered me when
Speaker 1: everything happened to him, Like I've been a fan. But
Speaker 1: what kills me is when I told people, if you
Speaker 1: look at his book list in prison, you do what
Speaker 1: you do? A video given home much the baby Lane,
Speaker 1: I don't stop it, but people really, but people felt
Speaker 1: like really feel like it's hot because they really feel
Speaker 1: like it's homage. Just like Bro, you can't even tell
Speaker 1: Tupac would have love my fucking song right now. He's
Speaker 1: in heaven, like man, that nigga hard. But because because
Speaker 1: no one supports your coast, I mean, no one made
Speaker 1: Biggie must Die from New York? Did they? Who the
Speaker 1: fun Biggie? Everybody that know what happened to Biggie? You don't,
Speaker 1: I don't even I wouldn't even know what. That's not
Speaker 1: some street ship niggas don't really fucking no, I've never
Speaker 1: heard that store in the streets. The first time I
Speaker 1: heard it was on Internet and I heard Red talked
Speaker 1: about who might have did it. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what was the motivation. I don't know what happened. That's
Speaker 1: not some like street ship that you don't hear about, Like,
Speaker 1: that's like high level ship. That was like some ship. Nick,
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. I wasn't there. H knew what happened
Speaker 1: to Listen, Red knew what happened to Pock five minutes
Speaker 1: after it happened. He knew what he knew, who did it,
Speaker 1: and what happened. We all knew what happened to Pock.
Speaker 1: Suge knew what happened to Pock right on the spot.
Speaker 1: Every well knew. We didn't know that. We didn't know
Speaker 1: the people, but we knew the area and we knew
Speaker 1: what it was about, and we knew the people. Like
Speaker 1: in the night that night, people was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: you heard the story. You heard when the nigga got jumped,
Speaker 1: like the ship was calling back. It's normal. So Biggie
Speaker 1: ship was so next level, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: that it was like that was like a real hit.
Speaker 1: That's not like no upset nigger that just got into
Speaker 1: a fight. That's like somebody knew what they was doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They knew what they was doing.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm saying is Tupac understood what should
Speaker 1: was able to do with Snoop. He knew if he
Speaker 1: got next to Snoop and saying that ship, he was saying,
Speaker 1: it was over. He knew it if he because when
Speaker 1: you heard it, he was like, oh ship. You could
Speaker 1: hear Tupac Melia. I've heard Tupac way before that a
Speaker 1: lot of times. First record, second record, third record, all
Speaker 1: of that, because they were great. But when he stood
Speaker 1: next to Snoop and we're saying that ship, it almost
Speaker 1: gave you a measure and stick where you could be like,
Speaker 1: oh ship music award. Man. It starts being there. It's
Speaker 1: it's like, oh ship. You know what I'm saying, Oh ship,
Speaker 1: look at that ship there, and oh man, Snoop is
Speaker 1: so fun great man, Snoop is so awesome and I
Speaker 1: love and what's funny is speaking of that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, and I got to go say this. I
Speaker 1: got to go, um, you know who cuts me out
Speaker 1: the most about Tupac Mustarter soon jan No, James actually
Speaker 1: just explained to me, and he explained to me in
Speaker 1: the most simplest voice and told me how it hurt
Speaker 1: his feelings, and you know how it was like digging
Speaker 1: him like that actually probably made me feel the worst.
Speaker 1: When he described it to me, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that dude sound fucked up, Like I didn't even think
Speaker 1: about it like that, but you know, it cuts me
Speaker 1: out the worst. The nigger who Pop talked the worst
Speaker 1: about Dre. Really, Dre had the most tongue, like the
Speaker 1: most lit for me when it came down to it.
Speaker 1: He was drunk, but he was so when so when
Speaker 1: O g drunk, like I'm not really chicking, like are
Speaker 1: you drunk? Tripping? You feel me? But Dre really tried
Speaker 1: to make me feel bad, like I mean, he was like, man,
Speaker 1: why the funk would you do that? Like do what?
Speaker 1: Because like, what's the problem? Man? Why are you saying this? Nigga?
Speaker 1: I didn't say fuck to who the funk was the funk?
Speaker 1: Tupac like what are you talking about? Like he just
Speaker 1: didn't not it was no matter what the song was about.
Speaker 1: How I told him like, Yo, the song is not
Speaker 1: negative towards Tupac in no way. It's not disrespecting his legacy,
Speaker 1: is not disrespecting him. It's telling a gang bang story
Speaker 1: that he happened to be involved in. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Ranch the nigga wanted me to apologize. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: that nigga like thinking, you slap deep Orange, you then
Speaker 1: just funk easy. All this crash ship. You want me
Speaker 1: to apologize about making it? And he was serious. Red
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing. He was so serious. He talked to
Speaker 1: me because like my grandfather something. Bro. He was like, yesh,
Speaker 1: I'm listen, glasses, this ship is not cool. I'm like, doc,
Speaker 1: because you're almost city. How are you telling me about
Speaker 1: what's cool. I'm thinking to myself, like think of what
Speaker 1: and I'm listening, And he gave me the most shit
Speaker 1: about it. Quick Andre hates the drummer. Well, how the
Speaker 1: fund is? They always disting the ship out of somebody,
Speaker 1: Ain't that a bitch? That's what killed me with all
Speaker 1: these niggas. These niggas be mad at me about my ideas. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: see that's that bullshit. Rich You can't raise niggas on
Speaker 1: this ship. And get mad with niggas. Be on this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm on this ship. Reg how a nigga can't be
Speaker 1: mad about you? I'm a fan of Tupac. This is
Speaker 1: I swear. When I wrote the song I called still,
Speaker 1: I said, I just wrote this song. They got two
Speaker 1: pop energy in it, Like this is a kind of
Speaker 1: people can't get mad at you. The people that get
Speaker 1: mad at you probably are the ones to be over
Speaker 1: there pumping up keep talk about he's a comedian and
Speaker 1: he's funny and he need to have stem up, stand
Speaker 1: up comment and all of that. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like but but you know, also
Speaker 1: we also grew up in a society where we feel
Speaker 1: like we have to take a side. I don't gotta
Speaker 1: take nobody's side. Two niggas got into it, niggas died.
Speaker 1: That happens all my whole fucking life. I don't know
Speaker 1: no other way. I ain't never got to take a
Speaker 1: side nigga niggas from the seven. So my point is Chris.
Speaker 1: That's what thing about Chris Boyd. They're loyal to the
Speaker 1: soiler yea, oh the same. So check us out spotted
Speaker 1: from East Coat, I from seventh Street. We got the
Speaker 1: sevens in common. That's the sevens save most sevens than that.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I'm taking baby Lane side
Speaker 1: and picking baby Lane. And I don't know how I
Speaker 1: didn't make the babe listen from the point of view,
Speaker 1: because every last person had told the story from Tupac's
Speaker 1: point of view. The story has always been told that
Speaker 1: something that just was a hater that was jealous did this.
Speaker 1: That's the only story. I think people more it was
Speaker 1: more upset because it was some inacturies and inaccuracies in
Speaker 1: the video. But but but you have to make it
Speaker 1: a little inaccurate because if you actually said that, if
Speaker 1: you actually, if I go out of my way to say, hey,
Speaker 1: nobody took trade change, it really looked bad. It didn't take.
Speaker 1: That's not the point again, it looks really bad because
Speaker 1: then it looked like just some gang shit. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. It was because of Tupac felt his loyalty
Speaker 1: to death Row. It's not just as simple as I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Tupac wasn't claiming the mob. Obviously, fucking Stevie
Speaker 1: Wonder could see Tupac was claiming, but around but he
Speaker 1: was loyal. I think it's been loyal to and but
Speaker 1: that's my point. That's that's where I was getting to.
Speaker 1: But he was loyal to the niggas. That was he
Speaker 1: had never felt that kind of love. I know how
Speaker 1: this gang banger ship worked. Man, Niggas take you in
Speaker 1: and you know, niggas that do anything for you. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a different feeling that he was able to feel
Speaker 1: being a part of this ship. That's what all these
Speaker 1: niggas really want. So when yeah, yeah, because and then
Speaker 1: you gotta remember the the the he was the richest
Speaker 1: nigga in the thug life movement. I mean, so he
Speaker 1: got some niggas off the corners and make it from
Speaker 1: photis right, that was with it. But when he got
Speaker 1: with Death Road, you got with the mob. They got
Speaker 1: real paper and there were some real goons. They was
Speaker 1: with all the bushes. So and they're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: would do whatever you want to do to these niggers. Man.
Speaker 1: That type of love and power, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I get why so, But that's why I'm also really
Speaker 1: careful with telling the story in a way that fits
Speaker 1: why so you don't look at it like it's just
Speaker 1: some bullshit old or oh what they didn't If they
Speaker 1: don't take the chain, what am I mad at? Because
Speaker 1: two hang members gown to a fight. No, So you
Speaker 1: make the story simple, you make it digestible for people.
Speaker 1: And he said, Okay, this is why he was upset
Speaker 1: because this chain was took ing from this person. It's
Speaker 1: not about that they're not taking he did not take
Speaker 1: the chain. Okay, I'm telling you, But it's not the point.
Speaker 1: It's when niggas tell his story. All these crackers telling
Speaker 1: these stories. My bad, you know, a cracker. But when
Speaker 1: these crackers tell these stories, dog, you feel me. They
Speaker 1: don't call him niggas and say, hey this, I'm making
Speaker 1: an appelling story. Because if you make it look like that,
Speaker 1: then you can understand Tupac's rage when he found out
Speaker 1: that Nigga was around this nigg got done wrong to
Speaker 1: somebody he was loyal to and a label, and a
Speaker 1: label that bailed him out of jail. So I made
Speaker 1: the story simple. If it's just a game, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: But if it's just a leg but but I don't know.
Speaker 1: The title was like a movie thing. But I understand.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I don't think I took baby
Speaker 1: Larry sick. I think I told hip hop all about
Speaker 1: Redge and this is something you can relate to because
Speaker 1: you know about hip hop. You've been in and long
Speaker 1: enough and you've seen it. It's about giving a voice
Speaker 1: to the voiceless, the miss and not an un illrepresented
Speaker 1: people that's not represented, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: when you hear a story and all you hear is
Speaker 1: all he's a hater or this nigga, this is that
Speaker 1: the third of this nigger and you're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: I understand how we live culturally and why you feel like. Man,
Speaker 1: if if if that happens to Baby Lane and he
Speaker 1: comes back to Compton, can you know what niggas is
Speaker 1: gonna say about him? No? No, no, not not not
Speaker 1: not not after if he does nothing. Oh if you
Speaker 1: didn't do that, Oh yeah, they had to retaliate. Ye.
Speaker 1: Your baby mama gonna be like, man, man, you let
Speaker 1: that rap. You know when that rapper nigga did that
Speaker 1: ship to you. I always said that. I think you
Speaker 1: walk around the shirt with a white beater on. The
Speaker 1: more he imagine the soldier boys slapped you across your
Speaker 1: face and you'll do nothing. Sold If soldier boys slapped
Speaker 1: me across. And I'm not calling Tupac soldier boy. I'm
Speaker 1: saying somebody that's not involved with the lifestyle. Yeah, anybody's
Speaker 1: not involved with the lifestyle. Like if Shook fired on
Speaker 1: me and not if I ship back, Nick is gonna
Speaker 1: make jokes. Sure, I mean it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: certain way. We're gonna talk about it. But if somebody
Speaker 1: who you feel is not a part of the lifestyle, bro,
Speaker 1: you got to do something. I didn't think even if
Speaker 1: I were have known about it, I wouldn't have thought
Speaker 1: they would retaliated that quick. Gonna be honest, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have thought they would retaliated there but in Compton and
Speaker 1: they're gonna go crazy. But but but also I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: if this happens, are you because this ain't your first rodeo,
Speaker 1: you didn't like I'm sure baby land him and jump
Speaker 1: before this is part of the territory, you know what I
Speaker 1: I mean. Maybe he hasn't, but I would imagine he has, right,
Speaker 1: And nig would be from Santana probably says he was
Speaker 1: alive at this point, right, so you know you've been jumped.
Speaker 1: But the type of embarrassment, the type of embarrassments you have,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean when somebody feel that's not
Speaker 1: affiliated with the culture. He right, we would have had
Speaker 1: a hundred jokes point rids a thousand fucking jokes. Oh man,
Speaker 1: niggas would have had a hundred job That's like it
Speaker 1: sold the way slaping nicker right and sold they slap
Speaker 1: dog red. Do you know how many jokes you'll be
Speaker 1: making about me? You know what many jokes to slap
Speaker 1: you like that? It'll be a joke that rights itself.
Speaker 1: So you know, because all you have when you come
Speaker 1: from our community, that's the that's the moral of the story. Morality.
Speaker 1: You know, when you come from our community, you have
Speaker 1: to protect your reputation. It's your most prized you know,
Speaker 1: it's your most price possession. You're right before before we
Speaker 1: get out of here, let's talk about your podcast that
Speaker 1: you've got coming up. For a little bit of stuff
Speaker 1: we're going on. You gotta motherfucking podcast. Hold on, niggas,
Speaker 1: you're trying to advertise on that show. You got past
Speaker 1: what's called you right there and or the O G
Speaker 1: Gangs chronicles. We haven't came up with the what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. You know what what he got two podcasts.
Speaker 1: He got one because you know Reggs like to talk.
Speaker 1: Regg to be on there every night. So we got
Speaker 1: both sides of Reggie right, and we got the O
Speaker 1: G Gangster Chronicles. We really that's gonna be the first episode.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do what. I don't know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: One about your boy. I t we're gonna tell the
Speaker 1: story I gotta do to go, tell the whole story
Speaker 1: about the robbery and all of that and getting the
Speaker 1: boy killed, almost going to jail. Heard about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the older players and everybody, they say, shit
Speaker 1: happened one thing about Ice. They say, some ship gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna play. I'm old man. That's fine. Funk
Speaker 1: with you old niggas. You old niggas is trifling, bro,
Speaker 1: old niggas, bro were stabbing it your generation. Stabb. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna We've been around talking about I drives ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: said that. I've been working on that. So so my
Speaker 1: thing is your old niggas played different. You nigga stab
Speaker 1: each other this ship, y'all look at each other's eye, y'all.
Speaker 1: Nigga is some treacheres now I already. You listen to
Speaker 1: older niggas wrapping ship. You niggas be talking about raping niggas.
Speaker 1: I'm not funking with you, nigga. That's why if I
Speaker 1: ever had beef with all the nigga, I'm just killing.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to negotiate a settle nothing, because
Speaker 1: you niggas will do like treachery ship to each other.
Speaker 1: Niggas cut each other heads off and hang them on
Speaker 1: like bro, I don't know what are y'all doing this
Speaker 1: is we could just eliminate the problem. Y'all get out
Speaker 1: of hand and think y'all like from like Greece or something,
Speaker 1: or like you know, Rome, and do little silly ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all problem is. You niggas is treacherous,
Speaker 1: and I think y'all just traumataged from something happen to
Speaker 1: y'all this tithing man. I think they're they're less removed
Speaker 1: from a meaningful like from a climate of meaningful war
Speaker 1: where they understand the value of ultimate victory. I don't
Speaker 1: even know be raping each other and ship and the
Speaker 1: nigga is different. Nigga, see gotta something about raping somebody
Speaker 1: with a hanger. I was like, first off, why are
Speaker 1: you think it's something issue? The who tang was wrapping
Speaker 1: about smoking charm and ship and all kind of crazy ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know that my own niggas are different, but
Speaker 1: that's it in the man, no sellings up in this
Speaker 1: motherfucker looking out, Reds, make sure you'll check out that
Speaker 1: both sides of the fence, Redge, I want to hear
Speaker 1: some fucking police stories. Use a fucking police I want
Speaker 1: to hear, and I want you to tell on yourself.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell on everybody else. Now I
Speaker 1: want you to tell me that time you took that
Speaker 1: three birds from one nigg or something, or you let
Speaker 1: the wrong nigga off. I need both sides of the fence.
Speaker 1: So are you're trying what are you trying to get?
Speaker 1: No he because Red's gonna tell him. He gonna tell
Speaker 1: me everything Dash did, snoop did, Ship did? Tell me
Speaker 1: what you did? That's what that's what to be dope,
Speaker 1: because Reds can really talk about sucking up and also
Speaker 1: fucking up both ways. If I'm telling that, I mean
Speaker 1: I was there, I know, but now I need you
Speaker 1: so you was there with yourself, So I want to
Speaker 1: know the time when you tried to rest that hooker
Speaker 1: and she gave you some pussy, so you I want
Speaker 1: to hear all the story. You know, his wife, I
Speaker 1: want to hear about them. I want to hear about
Speaker 1: when the woman offered you some pussy and you had
Speaker 1: to think about it and turn it down. There had
Speaker 1: to be somebody, fine, somebody tried to almost corrupt you.
Speaker 1: Nobody's uncorrupted asnorable man though. I want to hear Reggie.
Speaker 1: I want to hear Reggie talk about the times he
Speaker 1: was corrupted before he stopped his job. That's what I
Speaker 1: just got. All the prison. They shouldn't even put you
Speaker 1: in prison for that. You should sue him right now.
Speaker 1: That ship legal, Now, that's ship bullshit.