1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on Steelers 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Nation Radio and Matt. A couple of things here I 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: noticed on NFL dot Com. The first is that Jalen Carter, 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the big defensive tackle out of Georgia, is only visiting 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: teams who have a top ten pick. Interesting and that's 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: his decision. Does that set off any red flags for you? Well, kinda? 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I mean I feel bad for these kids in that, 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: do you really? I mean, everyone would love to bring 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter in their building for the day and figure 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: out should I trade up for him? He falls. Yeah, 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: that's what you know. So you're telling me, if you're 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, you're not gonna go visit the Titans who 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: have what picked twelve who could trade up and get 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: you right exactly. So maybe that's narrowing it down too much. 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: But I also wouldn't want to take twenty five or 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: thirty visits of him him him either, you know. I mean, 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit asking a lot out 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: of his time, and how do I lose those five 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: pounds I put on, you know before my pro day, 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: if I'm always in buildings and not working out And yeah, 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: so I kind of get both sides. I would never 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: let you and I know that I was doing that though, 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, the meeting, you never 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: find that out. Yeah, I'm wondering means to and Ian 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Rappaport reported that, and that came from his agent, Drew Rosenhouse. Now, 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Rosenhouse is a pretty smart dude. He's been around the 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: block a few times with this. So Rosenhouse has declined 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: visit requests from teams picking outside the top ten according 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: to rapp report, but he's open to a raging ranging 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: a pre draft visit for Carter for to a team 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: that trades into the top ten prior to the draft. 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Well sure, well it's after the again, that's after the Like, 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that I want to move up. I don't. 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: If I'm moving up, I'm probably moving up to get you. 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to do that blind. Oh that's 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna be the fifteen minutes. You know that I'm on 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: the guys are on the clock. I mean, how foolish 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: would it be for the Steelers to move to eight 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: today saying because we hope to get Jalen Carter and 43 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: that's our only target, right, that makes sense? And then 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: you bring him in for you bring him in for 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: a visit and it's like, oh, this guy's a jerk. 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: We don't want this dude now one all in an hour, 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: top ten and all right, right, yeah. So the fact 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: that it is Rosenhouse though, makes me wondering what kind 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: of games are going on here for his client. I mean, 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: is he telling the world I know Jalen's going in 51 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: the top top ten, or is he at least making 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: us believe that, you know what I mean, like right right, 53 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: I think that's the game that he's playing there. He's like, Hey, 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put an artificial cap on this. 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: So for the people thinking that Carter may fall out 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: of the top ten, I think he's trying to He's 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: trying to again put put an artificial cap on that 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: to say no, there's no way that's happening. I mean, 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: have the Seahawks or Raiders or I mean there's plenty 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: of good landing spots from like five to ten for him. 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: The Bears, the Eagles have two of those teams, told 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: him we will He's not getting past us, Like, there's 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: no way he's getting past Philly if if he gets 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: to ten. It's just it's just I mean, what they 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: would basically be have have George's defensive front back from 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: last year or two years ago, and you got a 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: guy like electric Cox there to take him under his wing, 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, like a Hayward would and culture and you know, 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: winning organization. I mean, no way, I can't believe it 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: at all. I mean I often think about Randy mo 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and Warren Sap falling when I think about Carter, like 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Dyson went ahead of Randy Moss, which is nuts. Yeah, 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: my daughter knows who's a better player of those. You know, 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Dap was like the best defensive player in his draft. 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: And I think he had don't quote me on exactly 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: what it was, but tested for weed or something, yeah, yeah, whatever, 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: you know. And that's so he falls ten spots. I mean, 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't even a bomb mass situation when it scared 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: everybody off. It was just, you know, we know a 80 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: lot about this guy, and we have a little bit 81 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: of concerns, but I can't see Carter. I think I 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't see Attle jumps on at five and does cartwheels. 83 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I think as well. But I just 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: don't see him getting out of the top ten unless 85 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: somebody trades into it. Yeah, sound like a jerk, but 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: Rosenhouse must know that too. Yeah. So, Matt Lafleur said 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: the team would like to add wide receiver add to 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: their wide receiver room. Some veteran leadership would be nice. 89 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna be on. Hey, wait a second. 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: You kept giving me garbage at the receiver position year 91 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: after year after year. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna be leaving, 92 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: And now you want to go get some receivers. Yeah, 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: here's another second round pick in a fourth round pick. Aaron, 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: you know we're not gonna go outside the organization and 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: spend money, But you deal with those guys. I don't. 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: That whole situation is weird to me. I can see 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: the Packers being quite bad this year, yeah for sure, 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: And they have none of the receivers on their roster 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: currently have more than fourteen games experience. I mean, just 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: off the top of my head, I think Watson's a winner. 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: I was wrong on him, you know when we did 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: our triple take last year. I don't think he was 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: my top five. I think he's gonna be really good 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and has shown that. I don't think Dubbs is anything 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: more than probably a three. And maybe if you squint, 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: then there's Samari Torrey. That's what I say. Who's even left? 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean Jeff Cotton and bow Melton. Wow, I mean 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: they're younger dudes, but no, wonder they want some veterans. 109 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: They're all young. Yeah, imagine doing that to Jordan Love. Hey, Jordan, No, 110 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: you don't have any experience, but we're gonna put you 111 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: out there with a bunch of inexperienced wide receivers as well. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: Could handle it, Why can't you? Which leads Okay, So 113 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: that leads me to could they be in the market 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: for a DeAndre Hopkins or maybe making a trade with 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: for Alan Robinson? All would makes sense. Um. I don't 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: know their cap situation well enough, but my hunch is 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: much like Baltimore, they're handcuffed right now until they get 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: the big number off, you know, becauttle bit. This is 119 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: the worst part of this for for Green Bay. So 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: you drafted. You drafted Love in the first round. You've 121 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: had him sitting for three years. Even when you even 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: when you trade Aaron Rodgers because she gave him a 123 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: new deal, you're gonna have to eat some of that money. 124 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: So you never have the cheap quarterback room. You never 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: with a cheap quarterback room. No, you don't. I don't 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: know if this has one thing to do with the other. 127 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: But since they've drafted Jordan Love, though, they've had great 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: quarterback play. Yeah, I think that it lit a fire 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: under Rogers who wasn't playing People forget that Rogers was 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: not playing great when they drafted Love. It wasn't like 131 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a cap cot but he wasn't MVP 132 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: level and then he wins back back MVPs. So it is, 133 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: but your points very well taken. It is they've never 134 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: benefited from We're gonna go with the cheap young guy 135 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: who's talented and be able to spend elsewhere. They're never 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: gonna have that advantage. Yeah, and even this year, once 137 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: Roger's gone, what are you gonna spend it on? I mean, 138 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's like, good, no, right, could he come in 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and be a quote unquote leader in your in your room. 140 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know the personality well enough, but 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, if you're you know, 142 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: would DeAndre Hopkins fit into that locker room into that city? 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay is a different place, a different place and 144 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: gets really cold there, and they might not be very 145 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: very good. You go to the grocery store, everybody knows 146 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: who you are. Yeah, I don't think it's an attractive 147 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: destination for a guy like Hopkins. Or I mean, could 148 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: they try to trade for t Higgins or Ayuk or 149 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: one of these type of deals you know that we 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: didn't see comment, kind of like the aj Brown move. 151 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Maybe if you get a wealth host you though, it's 152 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: when you get a wealth of pics for Rodgers, could 153 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: you package them for a young receiver who's his new 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: team or his old team isn't gonna pay. Boy, that 155 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: would be ironic, wouldn't it, right? Right, use the pics 156 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: that you got from your franchise quarterback to acquire some 157 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: talented at the receiver position, which is something that he 158 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: was complaining about three years, ten years right, right, it's insane. 159 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,359 Speaker 1: I don't know that that gets a very strange organization 160 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: and people don't think about the Packers enough, but I 161 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: mean basically because they've had far Van Rodgers forever. Yeah, 162 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm not think they're a bad organization, but it's if 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: you grew up in inner city of Miami, you don't 164 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: want to play in Green Bay. If you grew up 165 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: in La playing Green Bay, Texas, you know, like the 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: hotbeds of high school football, green Bay is not real 167 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: attractive in December. They don't have an owner, you know, 168 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: like that's a problem at times. You know, not having 169 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: an owner is way different way of doing business than 170 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: the thirty one other teams. Yeah, they just they do 171 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: have to operate under a different system than everybody else. 172 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. And I know there's been a lot of 173 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: talk about like Lamar and his guaranteed contract. I don't 174 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: know the Packers finances. I'm sure that they're doing quite 175 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: fine by anyone standards, But could they set two hundred 176 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: million aside for a guaranteed contract down the road? I mean, 177 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: the they have that capability, like they've done it. They've 178 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: done it for Rogers. I guess they did put a 179 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: chunk for him, right, So I don't know's it's a 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: great question, and I don't know the answer to it. Yeah, 181 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: I could just see that group bottoming out and not 182 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: being the great packer teams in tradition that we've known 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and loved over the years. You know, how about this one? 184 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins today signed Durham smithe a tight end 185 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: to a two year extension where seven point seven seven 186 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: five million with five point five million fully guaranteed. Wow. Crazy? Yeah, 187 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: for people who don't remember, they did trade a young 188 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: tight end, Hunter Long in the Jalen Ramsey deal, So 189 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: I guess they're trying to firm that position up. Durham 190 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: Smith's just a guy, though, I mean something that's kind 191 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: of like the Jesse James contract, Like some of these 192 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: number two tight ends get too much money, and they 193 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: got enough, they fully guaranteed at five point five million, Like, 194 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, what are you? What are you doing? 195 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: That didn't get that at all? Yeah? Uh, looks like 196 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: that they're going all in. Yeah, and they could absolutely lose. 197 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean it could come up red when they've been 198 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: they put everything on black, no doubt, no doubt. I 199 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: mean that might be a nightmare or from now. Dalvin 200 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Cook's shoulder is making excellent progress following offseason surgery to 201 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: her pair of torn laboram says Tom Pella Sero on Monday. Um, 202 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: this is supposed to make the stabilize his shoulder. If 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: you remember, he kept having it pop out at different 204 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: times last year. Yeah, it's been a problem. I think 205 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: back to Florida State time. Yeah. So, um, but again, 206 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: that labor surgery is no joke. Um, I've done that myself, 207 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: and well my shoulder doesn't pop out anymore. It's still 208 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: not what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So they resigned Madison. 209 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I think that just watching Cook last year, I thought 210 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: he took a step back. You know, he's still better 211 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: than Madison. Though he's still better than Madison, He's still 212 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: a very good player. But you know, I do a 213 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: lot of dynasty stuff, as I've mentioned, and when they 214 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: when running backs hit twenty seven, you don't want them 215 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: on your dynasty team anymore. You know, that's like the 216 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: magic time to dump them, because that's usually when they 217 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: fall off heavily. And there's a lot of backs pretty 218 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: much from that same class that the James Conner year, 219 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: when there were so many good running backs that are 220 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: hitting that dreaded they're starting to age out age, you know, 221 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Zeke already hit it and fell off four Net could 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: be close to done. I mean, I even think Kamara, 223 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: who's got a suspension looming, still mixing Cook, guys that 224 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: look at we've looked at the last couple of years, 225 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: or some of the best backs in the league. It 226 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: might be you know, Dunezeo. Time for those guys. Yeah, 227 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean you start to worry about it, 228 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: and you'd rather maybe cash out too early than wait 229 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a year too late with some of these guys. Absolutely, 230 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you could turn I don't know, some 231 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: contending team Buffalo must have put Cook with Cook, you know, 232 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: give you a third round pick and get out for 233 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: a year, and he might be a fine player for 234 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo in twenty twenty three, might went super Bow with him, 235 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, right, But is he going to be in 236 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: it for the long term? Probably not? Probably not, you know, 237 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: or you know, Miami, we'd have said one all in. 238 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I know they signed like four other dudes, but I 239 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: would consider trying to get a Dalvin Cook or certainly 240 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry, you know, on the cheap if I 241 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: was a contending team. But if I'm the Titans or 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: a team like that, that I don't think and win 243 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: this year. You gotta get out now, why you can't? 244 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: How about you know, even like imagine Dalvin Cook in 245 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City. I was thinking that too. I went Buffalo 246 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: as the example instead. How about Philly? I mean all 247 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: they have for Sean Penny. Yeah, I mean he would 248 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: be again if you don't ask him to be three 249 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: hundred touch Dalvin Cook, he could be really good. He 250 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: could be really good, and the shoulders a little healthier, 251 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: and he's was great vision and all those things, right, 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, mixing comes to mind as well. I would 253 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: imagine they ride that out because they think, you know, 254 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: another one would be you know, the Chargers. Let's say 255 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: that you know they allow they allow eclar to go, 256 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: or they trade him. Well, trading for Dalvin Cook wouldn't 257 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: be the worst idea, right, And if you're in Minnesota, 258 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: you could draft bejan started all over. Yeah, yeah, interesting, 259 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I think those guys moving that era of once stars, 260 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Famer types, you know, could be on 261 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: the move. Interesting. Visit today draft pre draft visit Hendon 262 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Hooker visiting the Saints who have pick number twenty nine. 263 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: I think I think Kennon Hooker ends up going in 264 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the first round. I do too. That could be a 265 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: really good smokescreen for the Saints to say, come get them, 266 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, like to trade back and get something there. 267 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Or I think when incons only on a one year deal. Yeah, 268 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: I know they gave more money than people think, but 269 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I think he's only a one year deal. Cars Car's 270 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: not in this for the long term. No, no, no, right, 271 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean they could get out of that quick. Plus 272 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I think you want to red shirt Hooker anyways this year, 273 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: so it's not a bad landing spot at all. Yeah, 274 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: you get the fifth year option because you took him 275 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: into first round, so then you got you got four 276 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: more years of with him. And if he turns into 277 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future, now you got something. Now 278 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: you got something. Picking twenty nine at the vision they 279 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be out of it, but you could trade 280 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: card the deadline for a first round pick maybe you know, right, 281 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: but the team he gets hurt, you know, he's still 282 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: an asset. Yeah, I think that one. That would be interesting. Then. 283 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: The final thing I wanted to bring up, Matt is 284 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: that well brox Purty's elbow surgery has been completed. That 285 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: was a UCL surgery. Now, for pitchers in baseball, if 286 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you have a u CL surgery, you're basically out the 287 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: entire next year. Oh really, Okay, but they're saying he's 288 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: going to be back. They said check Kyle Shanahan was 289 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: asked about it last week and he said, check back 290 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: in June. Well, I don't think he's not gonna be 291 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: throwing a football in June. He's gonna be throwing fooll 292 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: in June. I mean, I bet there's no mini camps. 293 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if there's training camp or preseason. I mean, 294 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: this is essentially Tommy John surgery. I don't know. I 295 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: thought it was very very telling that the first day 296 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: of free agency they went and got Sam Darnold. I mean, 297 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: I know he's not great, but it's kind of like 298 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: the Trubisky tign like, I'm gonna get that guy now 299 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: because he might have to play a lot. And I 300 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: also don't think Lance is going to be on that team. 301 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I think Land sends up in Tennessee or Indie or Baltimore. 302 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: I think they know their formula of quarterback now and 303 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: it's not redoing the offense for Lance. It's get it 304 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: out quick to McCaffrey and Kittle and Samuel and you 305 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: know guys that run off the catch dudes, But you 306 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: do have to be able to throw the football. And 307 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I just I think starter, So I just had to go. 308 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I just looked it up here. So rehab from a 309 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery usually takes about a year. In some cases, 310 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: up to two years are needed for athletes to return 311 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: to their previous level of ability. Other types of UCL 312 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: surgery may not need this much rehab. Well, ay, we 313 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: don't know what type of rehab this, you know, but 314 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: if most of them take about a year, Brock Purdy 315 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: may not play football next year. I think there's a 316 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: real legit chance of that. And I hate talking injuries, 317 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: but from what I understood, because it took so long 318 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: to have this surgery that you said happened yesterday or whatever, 319 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: it was like two weeks ago. Yeah, but they wanted 320 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: to do it months before that, the swelling went didn't 321 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: go down. I think the injury was worse than most 322 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, So not only was it an injury people 323 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: don't recover from quickly, but I think it was on 324 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: the more of a worse one than Joe average one. 325 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: And arm strength isn't exactly a specialty to start with. Well, 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: that's the other problem is that, like he was not 327 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: a you know, a strong thrower of the football before 328 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: the exact you know exactly. So I hate to say 329 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: it because you and I have been down on him 330 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: and kind of think he's a flash in the pan, 331 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: But he might be the biggest flash in the pan 332 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Like remember that month or two when 333 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: party was a thing, you know, three years from now, 334 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: I'll bring up the you know some I remember Brock Party, 335 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember who's Brock Party. Yeah, it could. 336 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: It could turn bad very quickly for Brock, Bertie and 337 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: the forty. Like that's why I don't get um the 338 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: people looking at them and saying, well, they're they're one 339 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: of the top two or three teams in the league. 340 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: If if if we were saying right now their their quarterback. 341 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: We know right now the quarterback for the San Francisco 342 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: forty nine ers is going to be Sam Darnold for 343 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: the first twelve games of next year. Are they going 344 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: to be this? When we did the power rankings a 345 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, they were second. Are they second? 346 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: If you tell me that if I tell you that 347 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is going to be their quarterback for twelve 348 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: games or even Lance or Lance? Yeah, right, at least 349 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: Darnold's played in the league, right, Lance, were all enamored 350 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: with He could be something? But do we know that? 351 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, And I have all the respect in 352 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: the world for Shanahan as a schemer and making quarterbacks 353 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: lives easier. I think he's the best at it. But 354 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: it can't be you or I back there. I mean, 355 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: the NFC is very friendly, that the vision all of 356 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: a sudden is very friendly, but quarterbacks still matter. At 357 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: some point you're going to run into somebody who your 358 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is going to have to win you the game. Yeah, 359 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: And to be honest, if party never get into got injured, 360 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: should they be seconds? I mean right, you know you 361 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: could certainly make that argument as well, and I would. 362 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I would understand it. I just I don't get it. 363 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Um. Yes, they have a good roster, 364 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: so did the Jets last year. Right, but dreadful quarterback play. 365 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Dreadful quarterback play is going to get you beat. And 366 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: as much as everybody loves Kyle Shanahan, he has failed 367 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: in some pretty big situations. Yes, as a coordinator. As 368 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: a play caller, he got an awful close a lot, 369 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, And I've been he's been my coach. 370 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: He's been the bridesmaid quite a few times now. And 371 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: you know up there, m M, maybe trade lances, parties 372 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: on IR that's Tom's hometown. Do one year, get it 373 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: out quick, never get hit. See, That would make more 374 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: sense to me than so, you know, a couple of 375 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: weeks ago, Ben Roethlisberger, you know, went on the Mark 376 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: Madden Show and said that the forty nine ers kicked 377 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: the tires on him last year, and you know, maybe 378 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: that's maybe that's something they'll revisit, you know, this year. Well, 379 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: Brady would make more sense. Ben didn't play football last year, 380 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: right right, right, right, Yeah, And I don't know if 381 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: his body's in better shape than Ben's or not, but 382 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: I mean I would assume, so I would assume, you know, 383 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: in terms of physicality and the beating they've taken. And 384 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Brady's played at a high level recently. Yeah, not so 385 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: much last year, but not so much last year, but right, right, 386 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: And I think his style play would fit there quick too. 387 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: Like although if you're if you're brady though, or you're 388 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: looking at that going, well, I see their offensive lines. 389 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Not that good. It's very bad. Actually, yeah, and a 390 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes. Right, I really want to go there, 391 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: not really, but I don't know I want to play 392 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: at all? It is really the that's the big question. 393 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Do I want to play at all? And I know 394 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: it's the hometown and our weapons and the of a defense. 395 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: What I don't understand is why they're not interested in 396 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I think their cap situation is a mess 397 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: and they don't have a pick in the top one hundred. Yeah, 398 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: I get that. But they made Love Party. I mean, 399 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: I get the impression they love Party. Well, they're wrong. 400 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: You don't love the post surgery version of party. Yeah, 401 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: I didn't love the pre surgery version Party. I'm certainly 402 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: not gonna like the post you know, post for a 403 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: surgery version. And again I'm not ripping on brock Purty 404 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: is a great story and what he did last year 405 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: was great, and I liked him in the draft. I 406 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: didn't love him in the draft. But the people suggesting 407 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: that he's better than Kenny Pickett, come on, man, right, right, right? Right? 408 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: Or Brook of the Year honors or do you think 409 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers are trade Pickett for party pre Yeah, not 410 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: on your life, right, Yeah, for sure, that's interesting. But 411 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: I could see Brady rumors happening after the draft, no doubt. 412 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: If if the bed the news on Purty it gets 413 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: really bad around June, you'll start to see the rumors like, oh, 414 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: the forty nine is gonna be interested in signing a 415 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: certain quarterback who's from the Bay Area, you know, yeah. 416 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: Or if Lance gets traded on draft there or something 417 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: like that, well, that could happen too, and then all 418 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, then it would really heat up. And 419 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: may maybe that's what that's what people are betting on here. 420 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's the plan. I kind of 421 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: like that plan better than saying, hey, Sam, take us 422 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving. Yeah, bring bringing on home right right? Right? Hey, yeah, 423 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: you go ahead. I say, have you entered the league 424 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: with Brady and Darnold and a pick for Lance and 425 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: while Purdy's healing, Now I think you're one of the best. Yeah, now, 426 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I think you're in much better shape. Um, you know, 427 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll just see if you know, Tom Brady would want 428 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: to go all the way across country. That was all 429 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: he would have to do then is go play in 430 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: Seattle and he'd have like four corners of the country. Yeah. 431 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: I think his kids are in Miami too. Yeah, so 432 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: that might be the flying Annointment young. No, he is not. Hey. 433 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: You can subscribe now to The Drive. Every episode we 434 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: do is available for you to download. Subscribe today through 435 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers Mobile app, the iHeartRadio app, and wherever you 436 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: find your podcasts. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lali. 437 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 438 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: We'll be back to finish up the show right after 439 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: this