1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every day 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: one until four o'clock and every day right after four. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Whatever you missed in the show, you can hear on 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: the podcast John Cobelt's Show on demand. In our first 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: hour today, we spent a lot of time in the 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: La Times investigation into that Kruk Ricardo Lara, the insurance commissioner, 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: and he has gone on thirty two international trips to 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: twenty three countries, spending either tax money or insurance industry money, 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: and he has really partied and enjoyed himself. And he 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: was behind the insurance disaster, especially in the Palisades where 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: thousands lost their insurance just two months before the fire, 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: and some have no insurance. Some were thrown into the 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: fair plan, which only gives you a fraction of a 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: regular policy. It was his doing, his incompetence. He is 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: most incompetent and most corrupt. And this is not the 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: first time there's been an expose on him, and we 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: are just counting the days until maybe finally he's forced out. 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: This is what the governor should do, is demand that 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: he resigned. I don't care who he gets replaced by. 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: It's impossible to get somebody who's worse. And well, that's 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: the one o'clock hours. You have to listen to that 23 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Now, let's talk to Nick Gerder. We've 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: had on Nick before. Nick is with LAist dot com, 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: a journalist and he has done a lot of investigative 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: pieces on the nonprofit homeless industry, the companies that build 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: homeless housing, and a lot of money that has evaporated, 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: both state money and la money. A quick rundown of 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: this story. Actually he's done a number of stories lately, 30 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: but this is that a homeless center that they were 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: building in chevy At Hills where you had one guy 32 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: named Stephen Taylor. He's a Brentwood developer. He bought the 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: property for eleven million dollars two years ago and then 34 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: ten days later so resold it for twenty seven million. 35 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: He made sixteen million dollars in ten days to a 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: company called Wininguard. Now Stephen Taylor is being accused of 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: submitting fraudulent documents to borrow the money to buy the 38 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: eleven million dollar property, and then the second company. Two 39 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: of their executives have resigned they spent twenty seven million 40 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: in taxpayer funds authorized by city and state officials. Karen 41 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Bass and Gavin Newsom touted this purchase as a key 42 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: tool in the fight against homelessness. According to Nick gerderlet's 43 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: get Nick on the phone here and he can explain 44 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: it all. Nick, how are you. 45 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on. 46 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Let's do a basic run through of this story so 47 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: people can understand, because I think this story is, this 48 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: whole incident is a classic to explain what's going on 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of the homeless money that's disappeared in 50 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: this state. 51 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: So to take a step back, this is all under 52 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: a taxpayer funded programs that emerged out of COVID. It's 53 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: ultimately a lot of its federal COVID dollars that were 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: flowing through the state. And what Governor Newsom set up 55 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: with his state Housing agency was a program called home 56 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: Key that provided has provided a couple of billion dollars 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: so far to cities and counties across the state to, 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: among other things, partner with nonprofit groups to purchase properties, motels, hotel, 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: senior living facilities, et cetera, and convert them into housing 60 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: for unhoused people for long term operation and this is 61 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: one of those projects call the Shelby and the nonprofit 62 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: group is the Wineguard Center. They're two top their top 63 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: executive and top real estate person have been put on 64 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: leave according to some news reporting at while the board 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: commissions an investigation into all of this. But so this 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: this group, Wineguard Center, they get selected by the city 67 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: and what we found in records, we did a deep 68 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: dive of the thousands of pages of documents around this transaction, 69 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: and what we found in the records public records that 70 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 2: we obtained is that Mayor Mass's office had a big 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: role in the selection of this property, the Shelby property. 72 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: That's according to an email at city Hall at the 73 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Housing Department. And there was thirty one applications. Three projects 74 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: were chosen. This is one of them. And there was 75 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: this purchase agreement signed that had to use tax payer 76 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: money twenty seven million dollars in tax payer money to 77 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: buy this property that acknowledged they were not buying it 78 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: from the actual owner at the time. That someone who 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: was in Escro's the Steven Tamer guy you mentioned who 80 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: was in Escro to buy it. Turns out he was 81 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: an Escro to buy it or ultimately bought it for 82 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: a company link to him, bought it for eleven million, 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: and then completed turned around and completed the twenty seven 84 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: million dollars sale financed by tax payers. There's a lot 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: of questions around how this all went down, and as 86 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 2: we went through the records, a number of things stood 87 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: out which we reported out. What was the secrecy in 88 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: this taxpayer funded agreement was something that I can't recall 89 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: ever seeing in the you know, fourteen years I've been 90 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: covering local government, which is that the taxpayer agreement to 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: pay twenty seven million dollars for this property stated that 92 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: the buyer, taxpayer funded buyer. Wineguart Center can never tell 93 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: the public or the news media who the celerates, who 94 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: was getting the twenty seven million dollars. That's that's the 95 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: level of secrecy. Again, it's highly unusual. I can't even 96 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: think of another time I've seen that in local government 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: for such a large contract. 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Is that legal? 99 00:05:53,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: Good question? I mean, they did, oh, go ahead, are 100 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: you going? I haven't looked specifically into that question, but 101 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: what I can say is it was disclosed in a 102 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: public records request when we when we you know, demanded 103 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: the records through the Public Records Act. We got a 104 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: copy of it from the city. But what's what's also 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: interesting is the name of this middleman, Stephen Taylor. You know, 106 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: normally that something that you would likely see in the 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: property purchase the public property purchase records. But what ended 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: up happening is he assigned his role as the seller 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: later on to a different entity that did not have 110 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: his name on its registrations uh and on the real 111 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: estate records. 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 113 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: But we found other links with him to it, and 114 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: the pro peder of federal prosecutors say he is ultimately 115 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: behind all of us. But so so there was this 116 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: other move that also, you know, did not provide the 117 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: kind of transparency that that we're used to saying. But 118 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: but again it's there's a lot of questions here about 119 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: who knew what when. Additionally, the appraisal that was used 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: to justify the twenty seven million dollars purchase here by 121 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: taxpayers was commissioned and submitted by Wineguart Center to the 122 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: state for funding approval. That appraisal had inaccurate information. As 123 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: we reviewed it, we discovered that the appraisal omitted that 124 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: this property was in escrow to be basically Wineguart was 125 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: buying it from someone who didn't own it. The appraisal 126 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 2: incorrectly said that Wineguart was buying it from the owner 127 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: for twenty seven million, but the agreement at the time 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: was clear Wineguart was not buying it from the owner. 129 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: They were buying it from a middleman and who did 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: not own it yet. So a lot of questions here. 131 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: We continue to pursue answers. There's really not been any 132 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: answers forthcoming from the state, from the city, from the 133 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: mayor's office, from Wineguart Center. They've all been citing the 134 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: investigation by federal authorities into what went down here. And 135 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: I'll add that the top federal prosecutor in the region, 136 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Bill A. Saley, did a press conference referenced this deal 137 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: in October and said there is an active federal investigation 138 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: into who knew what in all of this. 139 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's such an overwhelming amount of money, I mean, 140 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a sixteen million dollar profit in ten days. Clearly something 141 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: corrupt is going on here. Clearly there are people who 142 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: are going to be running away with bags of money. 143 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: Stephen Taylor on both ends, he buys the property and 144 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: he's accused of submitting fraudulent documents to borrow the money. 145 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: So he borrows and buys the property for eleven million. 146 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: Ten days later, he's selling it for twenty seven million. Now, obviously, 147 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: nobody in the right mind can justify a property value 148 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: appreciating that quickly sixteen million in ten days, and all 149 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: this secrecy around it. I mean this, I mean there's 150 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: got to be a lot of hands in this pie. 151 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: You know, you got the city authorizing funds and actually 152 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: selecting this. You've got the state authorizing money and a 153 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: lad as well. As we were digging into this, we 154 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: found something else that ended up being its own separate 155 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: article than in story that we ran, which is that 156 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: during all of this and since then, Wineguard Center has 157 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: been failing continuously and failing to comply with the requirements 158 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: in federal law for it to be submitting to audits 159 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: and turning in audits on time. These are required in 160 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: federal law. They're called single audits. They have to be 161 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: turned in within nine months of the end of a 162 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: fiscal year, and they've been continuously overdue on those since 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: early twenty twenty two. So it's a time the money 164 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: was getting awarded here it appears that this group was 165 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: out of compliance with the sort of the most essential 166 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: tool that the federal government says it has to ensure 167 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: that organizations are properly tracking and accounting for taxpayer funds. 168 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: And when some of these audits did get turned in 169 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: very late, they were finding a whole host of problems 170 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: with how Wineguart Center was accounting for money, you know, 171 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: failing to have enough accounting staff to track it properly enough, 172 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: experience on the accounting staff, failing to include tens of 173 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: millions of dollars in federal funds on its balance sheet 174 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: that was provided to the auditors. So there's there's a lot, 175 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: a lot that I think people want to get explanations 176 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: for as far as what's going on here and how 177 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: this money was getting awarded amidst this non compliance. 178 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Nick, thank you for coming on, and I hope we 179 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: can talk again about this and other other matters. 180 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: You Bett, thanks for having me on. 181 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: Nick Gerda, go read his pieces at last dot com, 182 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: l A I SD dot com and we've we've got 183 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: more coming up. This is a massive fraud. Here. 184 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 185 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: M six forty. 186 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: We're on from one to four every day. If you 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: want to subscribe to our YouTube channel, it's YouTube dot 188 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: com slash at johnco Belt Radio. YouTube dot com slash 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: at johnco No, I do that wrong. I did that wrong. 190 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,119 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt's show. To subscribe 191 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com slash at John 192 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show. And we're putting up longer video segments these days. 193 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: We just had Nick Gerda on. I have been telling 194 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you for years that there is massive fraud, hundreds of 195 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: millions and billions of dollars being stolen, and you don't 196 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: need an investigation. Well you do need one if you 197 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: want to put the guys into prison, but just use 198 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: your eyes. You know that billions of dollars were raised 199 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: in taxes, They get huge donations from corporations and do 200 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: gooding rich people, and the homeless situation got worse and 201 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: worse and worse. So I don't think you need to 202 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: be the sharpest investigator on the planet to say, wow, 203 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of the money is getting stolen. Huh. 204 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Of course it was. And over time I realized, and 205 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I think it's obvious now that the nonprofit industry when 206 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: it comes to these kinds of charities, is filled with 207 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: a lot of criminals, theft, and corruption. They know that 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: there is little to no oversight, and that was really 209 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: the case during COVID. That's why they could steal thirty 210 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: two billion dollars from Gavin Newsom from the unemployment payouts 211 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: he was making. That's why they could steal ten billion 212 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,479 Speaker 1: a billion dollars from Tim Waltz in Minnesota for nutritional 213 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: assistance programs and autism programs. They know the bad guys 214 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: know that there is no oversight, and a lot of 215 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the bad guys work in government. There are really bad 216 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: people that work in government. There are really bad people 217 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: that you elect to hold office, like the insurance commissioner 218 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Ricardo Lara, a really bad person who is happy stealing 219 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: tax money so he can travel and live a great life. 220 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there are shysters and grifters and fraudsters all 221 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: over the place, and they're attracted to government work and 222 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: they get involved in charity work and they get involved 223 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: with nonprofits because they know nobody's looking, nobody cares. We 224 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: vote for homeless taxes because everybody wants to feel good. Yes, 225 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: we have to do our part. It's so unfortunate what 226 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: happens to these people. We vote for these welfare programs 227 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: that yes, yes, we have to offer a helping hand, 228 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: and voting for welfare programs, or politicians who promote welfare programs, 229 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, voting for homeless taxes, supporting nonprofits with donations. Oh, yes, 230 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: they do so good work. No, a lot of them don't. 231 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: A lot of them are stealing the money. The whole 232 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement was a scam. They built a 233 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of guilty, rich white liberal women. Out of tens 234 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars, Black Lives Matter here in La, 235 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars disappeared. It's amazing how easy it is 236 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to manipulate people's psychology to make them feel guilty, to 237 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: feed the desire to want to do good. You're not 238 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: helping anybody by notating this money. You're not helping anybody 239 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: by voting for these taxes, paying these taxes. Why at 240 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: the very least understand human nature? Half a human nature 241 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: is bad, and the bad people get in government. The 242 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: bad people have infiltrated the nonprofit world. The bad people 243 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: are involved in these welfare programs. Whether it's the non 244 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: profit end, it's the bureaucrat end, it's the politicians themselves. 245 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: That's their business, that's the way they earn a living. 246 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just fascinated how people won't accept it. Oh no, 247 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, they really do good work. I mean, you know, 248 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: even when you lay out a case, people will go, well, 249 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, not all nonprofits, Like why are you so 250 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: emotionally invested? No, one's suggesting all nonprofits, but way, way, 251 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: way too many more than you want to admit to. 252 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: You don't want to admit that you've been scammed. You 253 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: don't want to like face the facts that a lot 254 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: of your tax money has been stolen when you voted 255 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: for the homeless tax here in La City and County, 256 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: all of the money you give to a lot of 257 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: these nonprofits has been stolen. A lot of this welfare 258 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: money is not going to poor people who deserve a break. 259 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: It's just taken by criminals and fraudsters and shysters. And 260 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: they do it because they can manipulate your emotion. You're 261 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: afraid of being called racist or homophobic, or hardhearted or 262 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: cruel and mean, all the names they use to emotionally 263 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: manipulate your brain. So you give away the money and 264 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: no good comes of it. Fascinating, isn't it? 265 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: All right? 266 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: We come back. I'll be honest, I didn't expect this. 267 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: There's a new poll coming out. Well, it is out 268 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Emerson College on the leading candidates for governor. I didn't 269 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: expect this guy to be at the top. Good lord, 270 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: we'll tell you about it. We come back. 271 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 272 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: six forty. 273 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, over the years we spent I spent a 274 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: lot less time on polling because it's it's a busted, 275 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: broken industry. And I could go on for half an 276 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: hour as to why it's busted. But it's simply very 277 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: difficult now to get people to cooperate so that you 278 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: can pull and get an accurate result, which is why 279 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: there's so many false results that come out every election day. 280 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this poll if nothing else, 281 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: to show you just how terrible the list of candidates 282 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: are on the Democratic side, and really how unknown the 283 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Republican candidates are. It's for governor, you know, having Arnold 284 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: Schwarzeneinger and Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom as governor over 285 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Each one of them have their 286 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: own particular star quality, big names, very well known. And 287 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: now we have a bunch of people and it looks 288 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: like you you just pulled people out of the stands 289 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: at a Lakers game. Hey what's your name? Okay, we're 290 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: going to list you as a as a candidate for governor. Yeah, 291 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: that's not fair to all these people here. Some of 292 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: them are somewhat known, some of them have accomplished things 293 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: in life. But there's a lot of retreads and wannabes 294 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: and never weirs, and especially on the Democratic side. Now 295 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: what you have here is Emerson Emerson College, and they 296 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: did polling and first thing you got to know is 297 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: that there's thirty one percent says they're undecided. They don't 298 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: not impressed, I guess with any of the candidates. And 299 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: we've got a jungle primary in California, and that term 300 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: means that all the Democrats and Republicans run against each 301 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: other in June, and the top two candidates, regardless of party, 302 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: get in. Mathematically, it's possible that you can get two 303 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Republicans because the Democratic vote as it stands now is 304 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: split so many different ways. I imagine as we get 305 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: close to June, if there is a risk there's going 306 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: to be two Republicans at the top, that you're going 307 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: to end up with a lot of Democrats dropping out. 308 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Right now, it's bunched up. The Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bionco. 309 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: We've had him on the show many times, good Man. 310 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: He's technically on top at thirteen percent, followed by the 311 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: top Democrat, Eric Swalwell at twelve percent. Swalwell is a 312 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: complete joke, and he's been dogged for ten years because 313 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: he had a Chinese spy working for him in his 314 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: congressional office and he was on the House Intelligence Committee, 315 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: and there've always been rumors that Swalwell had an affair 316 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: with the Chinese spy who self deported, she got out, 317 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: went back to the home country, and the reason that 318 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Swalwell was suspected, and there's no proof that he had one, 319 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: but he has never denied it, which I think I'm 320 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: curious he neither confirms or denies sleeping with Christina Feng 321 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: whose nickname was Feng Feng, and she was a spy 322 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: and she was sent to infiltrate and she actually worked 323 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: for a series of politicians in the Midwest and infiltrated 324 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: their offices and campaigns, and she had sexual relationships with 325 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: at least three of the politicians. She targeted two of 326 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: them we know from FBI surveillance, a third because he 327 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: described her as his girlfriend. Made a mistake there. And 328 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: then you have Swallwell, who refuses to talk about his 329 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: relationship with her. Now she left his office and self 330 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: deported to China, but it's clear she was trying to 331 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: get close to Smallwell because he's on the Intelligence Committee 332 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: and has access to a lot of classified materials. He 333 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: also made a name for himself, and I think this 334 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: is why he's pulling his high as he is. You know, 335 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: twelve percent is not a big deal, but he's pulling 336 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: as high as he is because he was leading a 337 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: leading voice to impeach Trump. Now he made the rounds 338 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: of TV shows in the past week, and he's got 339 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: a new stupid idea that we should all be allowed 340 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: to vote by phone. And I'm not going to waste 341 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: any time explaining why that is the stupidest idea imaginable 342 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: that we all vote by phone. He sounds kind of 343 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: dumb when he talks. He's really kind of a meathead, 344 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: and you could see how he might end up in 345 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: bed with a Chinese spy even if he didn't. So 346 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: he's at twelve percent. Steve Hilton, who's the we've had 347 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: him on and he's he's a real sharp guy, worked 348 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: with Fox News, worked with the British Prime Minister David Cameron, 349 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: a tech entrepreneur, He's at twelve percent, and Katie Porter 350 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: missus potato head, eleven percent. Dropping. We had four candidates 351 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: at thirteen, twelve, twelve and eleven. Basically they're all tied. 352 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Then you have the hapless Tony Vallar still running the 353 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: guys in his seventies. Nobody wants him. He's at five percent. 354 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: That buffoon billionaire Tom Speier is four percent. Xavier Bisera 355 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: who's connected to a big scandal up in Sacramento, used 356 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: to be the attorney general four percent. And then there's 357 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: a smattering of other losers, you know, bianco In Hilton. Hopefully, 358 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: you know we'll get one non Democrat. I mean we 359 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: don't have any. You don't have any decent Democrats running. 360 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, someone who's business oriented, no nonsense, not woke, 361 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: not gonna blow tons of money on illegal aliens. Not 362 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: gonna blow tons of money on climate change garbage. Somebody 363 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: who's going to look at the average price of gas 364 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: in this country being two ninety nine and our average 365 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: four point fifty two and say, you know what, this 366 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: has got to end. We can't be paying four point 367 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: fifty to five a gallon when the rest of the 368 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: country is largely under three dollars. The rest of the 369 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: country is paying in the twos. I want that guy 370 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: to run. I know that Beyonco and Swellwell, Beyonco and 371 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Hilton will excuse me. I don't know why this is 372 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: so so. I mean, there's got to be an indictment 373 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: of this ruling party that people can connect with and 374 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: believe and want changed. We do have the highest inflation 375 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: rate in the country. We have the highest unemployment rate 376 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: in the country. We have the highest homeless percentage in 377 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: the country, the highest poverty rate in the country, the 378 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: highest taxes in the country, the highest gas prices, the 379 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: highest electricity prices. I can go on, but you get 380 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: the point. I did go on one day and I came 381 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: out with nineteen different categories where we were the worst, 382 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Like we're the worst business climate, we have the worst 383 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: school scores. Mississippi has better school scores than we do. 384 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: It's got to be something better than what we have now. 385 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Beyonco and Hilton are better, but they're Republicans, and there's 386 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: only a quarter registered as Republicans in the state. And 387 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: then you look at this Democratic crew. It's like swallowell. 388 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: It's dumb enough to let a Chinese spy into his office, 389 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: dumb enough to think voting by phone is not going 390 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: to lead to massive corruption. This missus potato head maniac 391 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Tony Lallar, he's a cartoon character. Tom Steyer is obsessed 392 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: with climate change. That's over. The climate change era is over. 393 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: That's done. I just this is bad. I mean, we 394 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: really need an excellent governor in the next forty eight 395 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: yearsately needed. All the stuff I tell you is true. 396 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: It's the most expensive state. It's the highest real estate, 397 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: highest highest rental, most regulations, I mean, every bad statistic. 398 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 1: We're at the top. All right, we've got more coming up. 399 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 400 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: six forty. 401 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: For four o'clock. Well, release the podcast and you can 402 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: listen to whatever you missed one o'clock hour. You got 403 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: to hear us going through the La Times expose on 404 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Ricardo Lara, the insurance commissioner, and he's been on thirty 405 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: two international trips to twenty three countries, and he has 406 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on tax money and 407 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: money from insurance industry interests and also insurance companies, and 408 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: basically it's bribery. And he's also stupid, and he engineered 409 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: a very bad deal at the last minute, just weeks 410 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: before the fires in the Palisades that resulted in the 411 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Palisades residents and many thousands of others losing their fire 412 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: insurance coverage or throwing them into the fair plan, the 413 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: last resort that the state runs where you end up 414 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: getting a fraction of the benefits that you'd get from 415 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: private insurance. It was a colossal blunder. He is stupid, 416 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: he's destructive, he's corrupt, and it's in the La Times page. 417 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: Saint John is the name of the writer and part 418 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: two of what she did, because she talks about of 419 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: the dysfunctional, broken insurance market that has been that way 420 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: for years, long before the fire. We're going to talk 421 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: about that tomorrow, but you want to hear part one 422 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: today in the one o'clock hour on the first hour 423 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast. Yeah, you remember when Gavin Newsom insisted 424 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: that every student must get a COVID shot to a 425 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: tend school in person. That was October of twenty twenty one, 426 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: and that's before they had done enough, they gathered enough 427 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: data on its safety to kids. Well, it turns out 428 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: the FDA reviewed that at least ten children likely died 429 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: in this country because of the vaccine. Now that's a 430 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: small number, obviously, and there were a small number of 431 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: kids that died of COVID who didn't get the shot 432 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: because there was no shot that first year. But the 433 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: idea that the shot did actually kill ten people and 434 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: the government's willing to admit it. It was a leaked 435 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: internal FDA memo. Who's by a man named Vena Prosad. 436 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: He's the new director of the Center for Biologics of 437 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Valuation and Research at the FBA FDA, And yeah, it's 438 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: what people suspect. It is true that the COVID shot 439 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: did kill some kids. And you can argue all day 440 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: about the risk of COVID versus the risk of the 441 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: COVID shot, but the bottom line is a only parents 442 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: should decide what gets injected into their kids systems. Let 443 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: them decide what kind of risk to live with. That 444 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: wasn't Gavin Newsom's business, and no other state required that. 445 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: In fact, then a persad who wrote the memo, he's 446 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: a liberal guy from the Bay Area. He spent a 447 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: decade at uc San Francisco and initially supported vaccination for 448 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: high risk adults. But he wrote explicitly, this is the 449 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: first time that the US FDA will acknowledge that COVID 450 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccines have killed American children. And again, California is 451 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: the only state to pursue statewide mandatory k through twelve 452 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine mandates. And all this has been covered by 453 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Californiaglobe dot com if you want to read the story. 454 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: And a lot of people pulled their kids out of school, 455 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: they went to private school, moved out of state, homeschooling. 456 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand residents left California, many of them families 457 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: who didn't want to comply with the mandates. According to 458 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: Rita Barnett Rose of The Globe, and this is a 459 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: basic freedom that I think everybody should have, basic freedom 460 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: that you should have from the government. The right not 461 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: to be forced to inject your child with a vaccine 462 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: or anything else, and California was the only one to 463 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: mandate it, and that that should be held against Gavin 464 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Newsom as well. You talk about dictatorial, Is there anything 465 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: more dictatorial than insisting that your child be forced to 466 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: have a needle jabbed in with a substance that hasn't 467 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: been entirely tested that people aren't entirely sure is safe 468 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: for all. Of course not, And that's why the other 469 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: forty nine governors and the other forty nine legislatures didn't 470 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: do a stupid thing like this. But are when we 471 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: come back? Well, Conway's up next, and we'll be back 472 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow at one o'clock. We got Michael Krazer with the 473 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: news live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 474 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 475 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 476 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 477 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.