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Speaker 1: Trent is here with us today. Again, we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 2: Trent.

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Speaker 1: Could to see you. A lot of talk, of course,

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Speaker 1: about what the Reds are doing with Elie de la Cruz.

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Speaker 1: I want to know your take on it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you cover this team better than anybody with the athletic.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I guess that he didn't take the deal,

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Speaker 1: And on the flip side of that, at least, hey,

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Speaker 1: the Red's offered, right, that's all they can do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think everybody's nobody's surprised inside because

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Speaker 3: the Reds have to make that attempt right, and they

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Speaker 3: also you know, if you're being honest, you don't expect

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Speaker 3: him to take it because.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who could.

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Speaker 3: Be and I mean a lot of things have to

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Speaker 3: go right, and this is down the road a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He could be a billion dollar player, and I just

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Speaker 3: don't know if you give up on that now. There

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Speaker 3: are a lot of things that you have to take

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Speaker 3: in consideration. You know, we talk about the guys the

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Speaker 3: Ronald Acunya, you know, Bobby wit Junior. You also have

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Speaker 3: on the other side you have Scott Kanary and guys

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Speaker 3: like that. So it's not a sure thing. But I

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Speaker 3: think Ellie and his representation believe in him enough that

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Speaker 3: it just seems like you're leaving a lot of money

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Speaker 3: on the table. Not that there's I mean, I would

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Speaker 3: love to figure out the difference between having two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty million and three hundred and fifty million, but

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Speaker 3: that's not in the cards for me. I don't think

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Speaker 3: we got to reh I have to renegotiate my riverfront

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Speaker 3: territory contract to get anywhere near that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you putting that, putting that out there, but

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Speaker 5: where like, let's how can you how can you rank

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Speaker 5: Ellie in the names that you brought up?

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Speaker 4: Are you well there's still potential? Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: And those guys you know, was Bobby Wit, Bobby Witt?

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Speaker 3: Wasn't Bobby Wit when he signed that, he had just

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Speaker 3: signed it. I remember going to Kansas City in two thousands.

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Speaker 3: It twenty four Eli's first year or twenty three. I'm

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Speaker 3: blanking because it's all runs together when you're old, AJ.

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Speaker 3: I know it's about that you're not as much cratzy.

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Speaker 3: But so like people going, oh, we're in Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and they're like, this is what Bobby Whitt was supposed

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Speaker 3: to be and I was like, this guy's still pretty good,

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Speaker 3: and then he kind of had that second season. Everybody

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Speaker 3: has their own timeline, but the potential is just I mean,

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Speaker 3: the potential there is greater than than anyone, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: and even if he's just what he is now, if

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Speaker 3: you just say, oh, all we have is an all

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Speaker 3: star shortstop, I mean that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 6: I know you went to Georgia and it's hard for

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Speaker 6: you to do math because there is no requirements to

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Speaker 6: get in there or to graduate from there. But the

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Speaker 6: difference between two hundred and fifty and three hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty million is about one hundred million. So I know

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Speaker 6: you would like, right, figure that well, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't have your I don't have your contract, so

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Speaker 3: like to me, they're both a lot, and they are

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Speaker 3: a lot a lot in a little a lot, but

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Speaker 3: in a little lot.

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Speaker 2: I got told this.

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Speaker 6: I got told this by an owner one time. It

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Speaker 6: was I'm like, well, you know, what's the difference between

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Speaker 6: one point nine billion and two billion? And he looks

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Speaker 6: at me and goes one hundred million. I'm like, when

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Speaker 6: you get to that amount, doesn't matter. He's like, absolutely,

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Speaker 6: So maybe it doesn't matter. I'm never going to see

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Speaker 6: that money either.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know Trump, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to Scott and uh and we'll get working

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Speaker 3: on your one hundred million difference edition.

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Speaker 4: Perfect.

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Speaker 6: What's what's the feeling of the fans in Cincinnati with this?

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Speaker 6: Because we mentioned they lost on schwerbur and they offered

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Speaker 6: them three hundred. Now they've come out and said they

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Speaker 6: offered Elie this contract? Are they What are the Reds

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Speaker 6: fans feeling and thinking? You know, they just had redsvests

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Speaker 6: this week and where they at?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: You know, like I think a lot of we've about

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Speaker 3: Ellie since he's since he came up. They're like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's just gonna suck when he was a Dodger as

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Speaker 3: opposed to holy crap, we got this guy for a while.

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Speaker 3: I think there's still some trepidation. Some take it as

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Speaker 3: we're getting this guy through his age twenty seventh season.

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Speaker 3: We might be getting the best of him. And I

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Speaker 3: think there's something to be said for that.

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Speaker 5: What is the what is the what is the pivot

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Speaker 5: for the Reds fans in the sense that I think

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Speaker 5: ag alluded to it. But the money that they had

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Speaker 5: out there for Schwarmer, the money that they have for Ellie,

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Speaker 5: does this just all of a sudden go Okay, we're

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Speaker 5: quiet now, we're not gonna We're not gonna be sorry

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Speaker 5: everybody else.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of that money, a ton of

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Speaker 3: the Schwarmer money was going to be deferred. The Ellie

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Speaker 3: money is future money. And that's hard to explain. You

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Speaker 3: get a lot of in the SAUC making when you're

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Speaker 3: talking about this kind of stuff, But it will I

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Speaker 3: think it does turn fans off. You see a lot

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Speaker 3: of fans just going, oh, I can't wait for a lockout.

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Speaker 3: I could wait for a lockout. I don't not want one, because,

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Speaker 3: uh as much as Jim Bowden and everybody else says

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Speaker 3: they want a salary cap, I just don't see it.

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Speaker 3: The MLBPA is actually, you know, has a backbone unlike

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Speaker 3: some others, and they don't want it, and they're not

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Speaker 3: going to give up on this, and as as well,

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't to me. Like you know, these owners who

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Speaker 3: write these big tecks, they write them because they don't bounce.

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Speaker 4: They have it.

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Speaker 3: You know, AJ might want to give somebody three hundred million,

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Speaker 3: and and if he, if he writes the check, he's

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Speaker 4: So it's up to him to do it.

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Speaker 5: Can the Reds afford the floor? Can they afford to

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Speaker 5: get up to the floor? Because why don't?

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Speaker 3: They're at one twenty five? Now, that's the floor is

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Speaker 3: not going to be more than that. What do you

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Speaker 3: what do you think the floor would be one hundred?

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Speaker 5: It would have to be a much much closer, like

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Speaker 5: if everyone's like, oh man, everybody's you know, look at

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Speaker 5: the other sports, it's a much closer. It's not going

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Speaker 5: to be it's not going to be two hundred and

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Speaker 4: They can't. They can't do that.

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Speaker 5: So they have to be able to to me, to me,

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Speaker 5: there's we're not going to debate the salary capper, no.

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Speaker 3: Sense I think they would, but they'll be close.

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Speaker 4: How close?

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Speaker 5: How sorry we frozen there for a little bit. How

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Speaker 5: close do you think the Reds think they are to

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Speaker 5: be to being a consistent playoff team? I know they

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Speaker 5: made the playoffs last year. The Reds let them, they

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Speaker 5: gave them their ticket to the I mean, the Mets

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Speaker 5: gave the Reds their ticket to the playoffs, But.

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Speaker 4: How close do they think they are? To me?

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Speaker 5: I feel like the Reds underachieved last year based on

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Speaker 5: how I feel about this position player lineup. And maybe

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Speaker 5: it's all potential. But what we just talked about Ellie's

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Speaker 5: three hundred plus million dollars that he should get is

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Speaker 5: all potential. So how close do the Rens truly think

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Speaker 3: I think they feel like they can compete over the

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Speaker 3: is learn from their mistakes. Remember the Reds of the

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Speaker 3: early twenty ten, ten to twenty thirteen, Well, when they

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Speaker 3: for this window. They gave up in trades like fifty

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Speaker 3: so you will hear all the time people go like, well,

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Speaker 3: when you go all in, if you don't win the pot,

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Speaker 3: you're out. And that happened to them for a good

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Speaker 3: five year, five six years and that is what I

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Speaker 3: think would really hurt the team. So you have to

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Speaker 3: be smart, like I mean the Brewers. Look at what

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Speaker 3: hated to see some guys go, they keep chugging along.

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Speaker 3: And that's because they do develop and they don't trade

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Speaker 6: What's the untouchables for the reds? If we're gonna keep

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Speaker 6: going down this, who are the untouchables? Sal Stewart is

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Speaker 6: Ellie de la Cruz? And then who's the prosper's supposed

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Speaker 6: to be on the trade? Remember all we heard all

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Speaker 4: You hear it? Where did you hear it?

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Speaker 2: That me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't hear it from me? And that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say, because I've never believed that, and

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Speaker 3: it just never made sense. I think, you know, of

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Speaker 3: Chase Burns, maybe untouchable prospect wise. You know, it's funny

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Speaker 3: I think they're much higher on a guy like Hector

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Speaker 3: Rodriguez than the industry is Alfredo Doo. That's an untouchable

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Speaker 3: right now. That guy is a beast. He's a catcher

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Speaker 4: They have some guys.

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Speaker 3: But you always need the depth. And I think where

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Speaker 3: they have their depth right now is in starting pitching.

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Speaker 3: And you almost need ten starters these days. And for

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Speaker 3: a team like the Reds, the only way to get

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Speaker 3: Because if I'm a free agent pitcher or there's no

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Speaker 1: Trying to think the Reds. You just mentioned it. To

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Speaker 2: Trent good classes. Hey, Trent.

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Speaker 6: I once stayed at his hotel that he used to

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Speaker 3: It's a hell of a place.

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Speaker 4: He sold it.

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Speaker 6: I know it was, Yeah, it was a actually met

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Speaker 4: You're right, so Thankstuary. Go for it. Yes, great place.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go there.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna get a foul territory to pony

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Speaker 2: When we go out to spring training.

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Speaker 1: Seems like you need some side hustles, Trent uh Income somehow.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you. As always, we look forward

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Speaker 1: course you can catch Trent on our Foul Territory network

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Speaker 1: right back with hot corner. All right, guys, talking a

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Speaker 1: are we taking the over or the under on Cincinnati

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Speaker 6: I want to take the over so bad on this,

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Speaker 6: But then I look back and I'm like, gosh, everyone

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Speaker 6: I think they're gonna get They're gonna be an eighty

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Speaker 4: Uk over?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think I think the Brewers. I think there's just

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I think the Cubs are better. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: All right, So you mentioned that you don't think they're

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Speaker 2: Parody? What parody?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can win one hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 6: Physic'd be some kind of record if they did it.

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Speaker 6: It'd be an awesome record if they could do But

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Speaker 4: That would be kind of cool.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's the Dodgers would be the team you

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Speaker 5: In that Division's that's the other part is it used

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Speaker 1: Both Aj and Eric take any over on the Reds

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming I was not invited. But that's okay.

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Speaker 5: That's okay, because the biggest thing I'm pissed about, I'm

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Speaker 1: place finished for Todd out of how many people fifteen? Like,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about here?

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a bunch. I think it was like five.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there.

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Speaker 6: I was I was in the Bahamas all weekend paying attention.

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Speaker 1: What is fourteenth place get you? How much did Todd win?

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Speaker 1: Where's he taking us to dinner?

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Speaker 2: Five hundred bucks? Thousand bucks? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much it was.

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Speaker 5: Well, he wanted, he wanted a few years ago, but

447
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Speaker 5: he didn't get to keep the cash. So this year

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Speaker 5: he paid his own entry fee and he kept the cash.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what he wont We'll find out

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Speaker 5: when he comes on the show Crazy Friday. Tune in,

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Speaker 5: Tune in and subscriber.

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Speaker 1: Producer said, or that we're going to Sizzler. We're going

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Speaker 1: to Sizzler.

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Speaker 2: We're going to see all right, So that a good movie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a phenomenal, phenomenal movie. So good job Todd.

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Speaker 1: We are incredibly proud of you. All right, guys, So

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Speaker 1: I just want to read this real quick before we

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Speaker 1: get to uh stuff coming up after Shake it Up.

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Speaker 1: The semi finals are here, and whether you're writing on

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Speaker 1: problem or concern called one eight hundred gambler. So here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. The Peralta situation with the Milwaukee Brewers. Now

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Speaker 1: the Brewers apparently guys are continuing to field offers on

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Speaker 1: ace pitcher Freddy Peralta, a free agent after twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: The Yanks, the Mets, the Dodgers, Giants, and Braves, among

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Speaker 1: many many interested teams. Peralta an eight million dollar salary

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Speaker 1: means anyone can afford him, including the Brewers, but an

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Speaker 1: extension is tougher for small markets. AJ does Freddy Peralta

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Speaker 1: start the season with the Milwaukee Brewers or do you

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Speaker 1: see him with another team?

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Speaker 4: I think he starts here with the Brewers.

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Speaker 6: I think he starts here with the Brewers, and they

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Speaker 6: see how it goes and if he's tradeable, if they're

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Speaker 6: out of it or something, which the Brewers never seem

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Speaker 6: to be, then they trade him. I think this is

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Speaker 6: closer to the Willia Damas situation from a couple years ago,

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Speaker 6: where they actually hold.

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Speaker 2: On to them and play the year out and then

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Speaker 2: let him leave as a free agent. Because I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little late now.

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Speaker 6: I mean it can happen, but we're almost a spring

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Speaker 6: training We're only a couple weeks from spring training now.

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Speaker 6: This is the kind of move that usually happens earlier

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Speaker 6: in the offseason to set other free agent moves in plays.

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Speaker 6: So I think if he gets traded now, it'll happen

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Speaker 6: in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Of the season.

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Speaker 1: Eric he's twenty nine. He's one of only eleven pitchers

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Speaker 1: to make at least thirty starts in each of the

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Speaker 1: last three seasons, so the one thing we know about

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Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta is he posts right, he's a gamer. He's

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Speaker 1: out there every fifth day. He typically takes the ball

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Speaker 1: when he is supposed to. Is he a brewer next year?

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Speaker 4: Man? I guess.

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Speaker 5: I mean the question is I'm not even gonna go

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Speaker 5: with I'm just gonna go with my gut.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think he's a brewer.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately, I don't think anybody is going to pay what

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Speaker 5: it takes to get him, because it's going to be

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Speaker 5: more than what Corbyn Burns commanded. Corbyn Burns was making

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Speaker 5: I think twice as much. I think he was making

507
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Speaker 5: sixteen million or eighteen million when he was traded to

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Speaker 5: the Orioles. At the same time, Devin Williams may actually

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Speaker 5: have been making more than eight million dollars. I'm not

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Speaker 5: even sure, but I just think that I think the

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Speaker 5: value is or the ask is going to be too high.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think it's going to get done. And

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Speaker 5: you talk about that stat you said about you know

514
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Speaker 5: how many people have made thirty starts in the last

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Speaker 5: four years. You want to know one of those people

516
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Speaker 5: that did that. Dylan Cees going and look up going

517
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Speaker 5: and look up all of his stats and see where

518
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Speaker 5: he was going into his free agent year and compare

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Speaker 5: him to Freddy Peralta. If you're wondering how much it's

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Speaker 5: going to take to either extend Freddy Peralta or if

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Speaker 5: the Orioles trade for him, to re sign him in

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Speaker 5: the next season, Like, it's just just compare those two

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Speaker 5: guys and see which one you would want and you

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Speaker 5: have an idea of what it's going to take to

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Speaker 5: extend a guy like that if the team of trades

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Speaker 5: for him wants to extend him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just one of eleven guys to make at least

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Speaker 1: thirty starts over the course of the last three seasons.

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Speaker 1: Aj the Brewers, though, they have a history of trading

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Speaker 1: their top prospects one year before free agency. We saw

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Speaker 1: it with Corbyn Burns, Devin Williams. Although Peralta his salary

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Speaker 1: is not crazy, right, I mean eight million, it's a

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Speaker 1: viable option for the three time defending NL Central champions.

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Speaker 1: Do they continue with the trend and try to move

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Speaker 1: him or do you think he's, as we mentioned, back

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Speaker 1: next year. But why do you think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: been their their their page of the playbook is kind

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Speaker 1: of getting rid of these guys before they hit free agency.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to.

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Speaker 6: Because they they they try to reload right Alta before

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Speaker 6: they lose the players. Now, like I said, this one,

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Speaker 6: to me seems more like the Willia Damas situation where

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Speaker 6: they let him play the whole year out and then

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Speaker 6: they let him walk. Freddy's great in the clubhouse. Everybody

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Speaker 6: loves Freddy. He's always smiling. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 6: I love about Freddy Peralta, and any team that does

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Speaker 6: get him, if it's not the Brewers, would be lucky.

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Speaker 6: That's why I don't think it's going to happen. I

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Speaker 6: think there's too many moving pieces that and too many

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Speaker 6: of the free agent guys are now gone right now.

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Speaker 6: If there's a team out there, I'll use the Mets

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Speaker 6: as an example that think they need one more starting pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Zach Gallen. Ain't it maybe you make.

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Speaker 6: This trade for Freddie Peralta because he's still cheap and

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Speaker 6: the Mets are a team that can get him there

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Speaker 6: for a year, figure out if they like him, and

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Speaker 6: then possibly resign them down the road. So I just

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Speaker 6: believe that unless it's something big like that, he's going

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Speaker 6: to be in Milwaukee when the year starts and possibly

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Speaker 6: maybe get traded, but the Brewers are never out of it,

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Speaker 6: so maybe they keep them all year and let them

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Speaker 6: walk like they did with the Damas.

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Speaker 1: And that's just it, right, the Brewers are never at it.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to say that they wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to win the NL Central again. So what would the

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Speaker 1: benefits to the Brewers eric to get rid of Peralta?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's more of an addition than

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Speaker 1: a subtraction.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously they have to thread that window of

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Speaker 5: wanting to continue to win. And the part that I

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Speaker 5: really like about what the Brewers have done is they

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Speaker 5: take less lottery tickets when they're doing these trades. They

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Speaker 5: go after teams lower levels, you know, longer, longer arbitration

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Speaker 5: or controllable players that they feel like they can find

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Speaker 5: value in. Joey Ortiz when they traded for him, third

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Speaker 5: baseman played a lot of shortstop. Does that mean he

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Speaker 5: was the best shortstop in the game. Absolutely not, But

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Speaker 5: they had somebody they could plug right in at third base.

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Speaker 5: They got dl Hall. That's where you know a lot

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Speaker 5: of high upside hasn't been able to stay healthy. I

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Speaker 5: think the Brewers if they trade Freddie p I have

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Speaker 5: a hard time believing it's not going to be for

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Speaker 5: somebody who they look at and they say, yes, we

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Speaker 5: see he strikes out a lot if he's a hitter,

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Speaker 5: but he's gonna hit some dangers for us, and we

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Speaker 5: need that slug, you know. I think about like a

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Speaker 5: Spencer Jones from the Yankees. Do they feel like he

588
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Speaker 5: plugs in to a team that steals a lot of bases?

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Speaker 5: Everybody talks about oh Man out thirty three percent of

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Speaker 5: the time. He's also a twenty plus stolen base kind

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Speaker 5: of guy. I think he actually had thirty plus in

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Speaker 5: the minor leagues. I'd have to look at that. But

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Speaker 5: you know, do they find that value and say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we can figure out who's going to start game one

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Speaker 5: for us in the playoffs? Like they got big WU,

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Speaker 5: but you don't know what you're gonna get. Still coming

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Speaker 5: off of that major shoulder surgery and looked great last

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Speaker 5: year but then got hurt and wasn't able to pitch

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: So does this hurt their depth? You know?

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Speaker 5: Do they just want to keep making the playoffs or

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Speaker 5: do they want to be able to make the playoffs

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Speaker 5: and win a World Series, and I think if that's

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Speaker 5: the case, I don't think they can do it without

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Speaker 5: Freddy P. Can they make the playoffs without always getting

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Speaker 5: rid of Josh Hater, then Devin Williams, then then Corbyn

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Speaker 5: Burns now Freddy P. Like, are they going to continue

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Speaker 5: that and still not win the World Series? At some

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Speaker 5: point you're like, we got to go all in, even

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Speaker 5: if it means a step back next year to win

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Speaker 5: the World Series, because that's what Brewers fans really.

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Speaker 1: Of course, with some folks say, you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of every season, the goal is to

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Speaker 1: win the World Series. I mean, every club all thirty

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Speaker 1: is going to say that. Do they really mean it? Though?

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Speaker 1: That's another thing entirely. I mean, I think that the

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Speaker 1: Brewers will have an opportunity to get to the postseason,

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Speaker 1: as they've done pretty much every year in the last

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Speaker 1: ten years. But you keep trading your best players away,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to do that all right. Back

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Speaker 1: to Kyle Tucker, obviously known most of the time for

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Speaker 1: his time with the Houston Astros, now a member of

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers. Guys, I want to know what

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Speaker 1: you make of this. An anonymous which is interesting. An

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Speaker 1: anonymous Cubs staffer on Kyle Tucker's departure, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: I watched him in the clubhouse. He checks his phone

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Speaker 1: more than he checks the scouting report. He's got all

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Speaker 1: the talent in the world, but the motor it's not there.

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Speaker 1: He's got his bag, and good for him. But if

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Speaker 1: you're asking me if i'd want him in a fox

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Speaker 1: hole in game seven, I'd take a rookie who's hungry

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Speaker 1: over a sixty million dollar guy who looks bored. Now again,

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Speaker 1: an anonymous staffer, which I don't know, say what you

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Speaker 1: will about that. That could be anybody. It could be bullshit,

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Speaker 1: it could be whatever. I don't think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: have already written the narrative of Kyle Tucker of how

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Speaker 1: he's going to be in Los Angeles. He's obviously an

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Speaker 1: incredibly good player. And the reason I say that is

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Speaker 1: because I do have this from a very good source,

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Speaker 1: somebody that knows Kyle Tucker incredibly well. And I asked

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Speaker 1: him about the narrative and whether or not you know

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Speaker 1: that's fair. He said, good guy, not a bad makeup dude,

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Speaker 1: good family, just a very low motor. Because he will

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Speaker 1: thrive in LA because he will not be or he

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Speaker 1: will be in the shadows. Just not obsessed with the

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Speaker 1: big leagues. Not everybody is a raw, raw guy. Eric

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Speaker 1: will start with you on this. In terms of Kyle Tucker,

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Speaker 1: I asked somebody else that knows him intimately. You know

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Speaker 1: what he's like and the personality. Okay, maybe warning Trek Dirt,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. You don't have to be a cheerleader. You

651
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Speaker 1: just have to be a good teammate. So what do

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Speaker 1: you make of this? Anonymous staffer saying that, And I

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Speaker 1: would imagine that any team that has Kyle Tucker on

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Speaker 1: it is a better team.

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Speaker 4: For it one hundred percent. I mean that player is

656
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Speaker 4: a very good player. Was Anthony.

657
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Speaker 5: Everyone's going to bring up Anthony Rendon? How did that

658
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Speaker 5: work out for the Angels. That's where the teams have

659
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Speaker 5: to make their they have to make their investigations. They

660
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Speaker 5: have to figure that out before they give two hundred

661
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Speaker 5: forty dollars or however much Anthony Wrendon got. I'm not

662
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Speaker 5: saying he's on that level. I'm saying he has a

663
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Speaker 5: low heart rate. Maybe that is helpful for him as

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Speaker 5: a player. And you know what, Scatting reports aren't for everybody.

665
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Speaker 5: You don't have to read scattering reports to be really good,

666
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: That's okay. Like some guys who don't read scattered reports

667
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: have the memory of an elephant. I remember two years

668
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: ago he threw this to me, and you know why

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Speaker 5: that is because they don't have a lot of scattered

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Speaker 5: reports jumbled up in his head. Am I afraid that

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Speaker 5: he's not going to play out his four years with

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers?

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Speaker 4: Not at all. Zero. I am not afraid of that

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 5: What I'm afraid of is a freaking clubhouse guy who

676
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Speaker 5: is with the Cubs saying, oh, yeah, this is what

677
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Speaker 5: I saw. Say your name, say your name say because

678
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: the fact that now all these clubhouse guys, all these

679
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 5: players are going to go into Chicago, they're going to

680
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: go into spring training, they're going to go into they're

681
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 5: going to go into the season, and be like, what

682
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Speaker 5: was that the guy?

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Speaker 4: Was he the one?

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Speaker 5: This that is a to me, that's a sacred area

685
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: that if you're a clubhouse guy and you're judging me

686
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Speaker 5: based on the one season I played in Chicago, I

687
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: have a tough time you saying something about somebody. I

688
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: really do now should somebody call a clubhouse guy and

689
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Speaker 5: be like, Hey, what kind of tipper is he? What

690
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: kind of not what kind of preparation? And does he do?

691
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Speaker 5: How is he prepared? Did he follow him to the

692
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Speaker 5: video room? Did he follow him to the cage. I

693
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Speaker 5: know there's a lot of guys who will go to

694
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Speaker 5: the cage and be like, hey, who are we facing today?

695
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Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 8: Like, oh my gosh, I just freaking I just freaking

697
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 8: watched every one of their relievers. I watched three of

698
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Speaker 8: the last four starts of the starter we're facing, and

699
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 8: I'm hitting ninth. I might get one or two at

700
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Speaker 8: bats against him. And one of the stars goes, who

701
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Speaker 8: are we facing today? What's he got? And did the

702
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 8: clubhouse guy see that? Does he know what makes his

703
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 8: motor run?

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Speaker 4: Actually?

705
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Speaker 5: Or was he in the clubhouse and like I want

706
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: to relax, I might see what's on my phone. That's okay,

707
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 5: that's okay. It doesn't make him not a good player,

708
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Speaker 5: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, aj, Not everyone's built the same way, not

710
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: everyone preps the same way. Not everybody is incentivized or

711
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: motivated the same way.

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Speaker 6: Agreed, Listen, I wasn't a big scouting report guy at all.

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00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 6: I didn't watch a lot of video. I just kind

714
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 6: of was like, I didn't watch every reliever before they

715
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: came into pitch. I'm like, all right, they're bringing in

716
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 6: a reliever and left you let me guess he has

717
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: a slider. He's gonna throw me at some point.

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm facing a right handed starter that day.

719
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Speaker 6: Who is it? Okay, well, they have one pitch that

720
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 6: I might need to be worried about. I might be like, okay,

721
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 6: when does he throw it? So I don't swing at it?

722
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Speaker 6: But I wasn't a huge scouting report. What to get

723
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 6: your mind mumbled and jumbled with all this stuff, And

724
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 6: then you get up there and you're like, oh, I'm frozen.

725
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: I can't swing because he was supposed to throw me

726
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: the one one change up, but instead he threw me

727
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 6: a fastball right down the middle. Like just react. And

728
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Speaker 6: if that's the way Kyle Tucker goes about it, great,

729
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 6: But he hasn't affected him because you know what he

730
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Speaker 6: when he's healthy, he puts up numbers, he plays, he's

731
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: great in the outfield. He'll do he steals bases for you, Like,

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Speaker 6: what do you want? I mean and by the way,

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Speaker 6: one thing I hate more Thannathy forget anonymous. Put your

734
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 6: name on it. Okay, anonymous person in the Cubs organization,

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00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 6: because you know what you want to look You want

736
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 6: to look cool, and you want to look cool. Excuse

737
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: me by saying something about somebody who just left your

738
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Speaker 6: organization for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you want to look.

740
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Speaker 6: Cool, you want to be like, we didn't want him anyways,

741
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: because you know he looked at his phone too much.

742
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Speaker 6: Have you been in a clubhouse lately? Have you watched

743
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: an NFL playoff game? Have you watched an NBA game?

744
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: Have you watched a hockey game?

745
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Any sport?

746
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: When they show the locker room view, every single guy

747
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 6: is on their phone, every one of them. So every

748
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: guy is on their phone too much. Like, come on, like,

749
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 6: put your name on it. And if you're whoever, whatever

750
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 6: position you are in the organization, if you felt this way,

751
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 6: then why don't you say it before he signed? Because

752
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 6: if you were to resigned with the Cubs, guess what

753
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 6: you would have been like, he's a great guy.

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Speaker 2: Da da da da da. He's great because he doesn't

755
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: look at a lot of scouting reports. Save it. Whoever

756
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: said this save it.

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: Hey, if a club came out was like, hey, he's

758
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: not a good tipper, then I'd be like, okay, okay,

759
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 5: you know what. That's that's fine, Like this guy didn't

760
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: give me a good tip, you're mad about that. And

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Speaker 5: the other part was the end of his com was

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Speaker 5: the end of the comment where he said I'd rather

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Speaker 5: I'd rather have a rookie any day. That might be

764
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: one of the more tired statements in baseball. The guy,

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Speaker 5: you know, the guy who's like, I'll take nine of

766
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 5: these players and I'll win. No, No, you're just gonna

767
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: have a bunch of guys who are gonna have a

768
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Speaker 5: dirty uniform at the end of the day and the

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Speaker 5: end of the season. They're gonna do nice. They're gonna

770
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Speaker 5: be nice. They're not gonna be a good team. When

771
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: you go to the big leagues, you have a small,

772
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: finite window to win baseball games. For some people's career,

773
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: it's a year. For AJ's career, it's nineteen years. You

774
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 5: want to win every single year. You want the best

775
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 5: players out there. You do not want a rookie who

776
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: is not better than Kyle Tucker just because he's.

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Speaker 4: Ready to go give me the baseball.

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00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna run through a wall. You know I can

779
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: run through a wall and do like two forty Like

780
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: I tried my best. I was a two zero nine hitter.

781
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: Nobody I read all the scating reports. I was not

782
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: on my phone because I didn't feel like I could

783
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 5: do those things to be able to play the little

784
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 5: bit that I played in the big leagues. AJ Prazinski

785
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: was and still is a better baseball player than I am.

786
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 5: Kyle Tucker is still better than any rookie that is

787
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: getting called up this year. I would have a tough

788
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 5: time believing that when he goes to the Dodgers this year,

789
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: or if he would have come back to the Cubs,

790
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: that a rookie is going to have a better season

791
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: than he will. And so I have that to me,

792
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 5: that is a hard that's a hard thing to hear

793
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: at the big league level. Do you want guys on

794
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 5: your team that play hard, work hard, do everything that can? Absolutely,

795
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: But Kyle Tucker's still better than them.

796
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: And that's okay.

797
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean enough for nothing. If you're the Los Angeles Dodgers,

798
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: or if you're if you're any team and you're about

799
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: to give a guy a four year, two hundred and

800
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: forty million dollars deal, and you're gonna pay him six

801
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Don't you think they've done some

802
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: fact checking about some character analysis and uh have done

803
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: anything to think, you know what, is he gonna fit well?

804
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers don't need Kyle Tucker. The Dodgers wanted

805
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker because it makes them better. But if the

806
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Dodgers didn't get Kyle Tucker, they're still gonna be fine.

807
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: So it's just ridiculous to me this narrative surrounding him.

808
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a coveted player. He doesn't have to be.

809
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Not everybody has the personality of a jazz Chisholm junior

810
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: that wants to be in the spotlight, that wants to

811
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's an animated guy that goes about things

812
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: that way right, And.

813
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: Not every not every move that the Dodgers make is gold.

814
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: They have signed free agents that are.

815
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: At Canfordo Conforido last year didn't work out, didn't work

816
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 6: out right, But that's fine.

817
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: They don't all work I mean, but.

818
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Speaker 6: Anything that just pisses me off is the anonymous don't

819
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 6: don't don't don't say anonymous.

820
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Speaker 2: Don't be anyou don't be anonymous.

821
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Speaker 6: Okay, if you got something to say about a guy,

822
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 6: just say it and then figure it out afterwards. If

823
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: he wants to fight you, then you fight. But if

824
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: he doesn't, and maybe then someone can come and defend him.

825
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 6: Notice nobody went to Kyle Tucker and asked him how

826
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 6: he felt about this anonymous source.

827
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Speaker 2: Why didn't someone go to Kyle Tucker and ask him

828
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: how he feels?

829
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Speaker 6: Because then you don't get a story, and then you

830
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: don't get the clicks, and then you don't get us

831
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Speaker 6: talking about it on Falter