WEBVTT - Do You Have Any Regrets?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to this episode of Amy MTJ. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about something on this episode that I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you listeners will relate to, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly something I have struggled with for most of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm hopefully getting better, and that is about learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to let go of control. We're always all of

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<v Speaker 1>us in our minds trying to control every little part

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<v Speaker 1>of our day that we actually have.

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<v Speaker 2>No control over.

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<v Speaker 1>But somehow we feel safe if we think we're controlling things,

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're actually doing is making ourselves crazy. So

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<v Speaker 1>much of the day and so much of our energy

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<v Speaker 1>is wasted on trying to make other people do things

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<v Speaker 1>we want them to do, or for situations to be

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<v Speaker 1>different than what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have worked and.

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<v Speaker 1>Will continue to work on trying to just accept what

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<v Speaker 1>is right and the only thing we can control is

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<v Speaker 1>how we respond, and that is intellectually very simple to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>but putting that into practice is a whole other set

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<v Speaker 1>of problems. DJ, how are you on not wasting your

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<v Speaker 1>energy trying to control things that you can't control.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I'm I'm in I'm in full control of

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<v Speaker 3>everything going around on around me.

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<v Speaker 2>Full control like on the subway today.

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<v Speaker 3>Total control. Yeah, I was in control of this podcast

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<v Speaker 3>even and said you needed to start it. Total control.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in control of everything that's around you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, total control?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, total what's what's your delusional life?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Delusional? Oh no, no, no, no no no no no no no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's here's the thing. I actually you know this. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a tattoo on my right arm that it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite and the simplest. That might be the

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<v Speaker 3>quickest that I've of all my tattoos that I ever

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<v Speaker 3>had done, and it simply says surrender. And I struggle

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<v Speaker 3>in moments sometimes and you just the way you end

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<v Speaker 3>up feeling when you're stressed, Oh God, a good day,

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<v Speaker 3>da da day, And once you just say the hell

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<v Speaker 3>with it is gonna be what it's gonna be. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing. Yes, how life and joy and the weight

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<v Speaker 3>is lifted. And it is hard to put in practice,

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<v Speaker 3>but with a little training, and yes, I too have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten better at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been obsessed with a podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of you may know who she is, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>an author, but she's got a book coming out. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Mel Robbins, and she has put this

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<v Speaker 1>theory in my head and she's writing a book about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called let Them. And so when I get

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated or I want things to be different, or I

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<v Speaker 1>want someone to do something differently, or to respond to

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<v Speaker 1>me in a different way, or to say something that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't said, I just say let them. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you just say those two words, all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you realize I'm acknowledging that I don't have control right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and acknowledging that. It's amazing how your whole body will

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<v Speaker 1>just relax because you really lies, there's nothing you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to change it, and the only person you're hurting

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<v Speaker 1>is yourself. Right you get all stressed out, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a headache, I'll feel just my heart will start just

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<v Speaker 1>beating quickly. You know, all those feelings of just stress.

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<v Speaker 1>Stress is being out of control?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think I handle that? What you're describing there?

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<v Speaker 3>And again I said I can speak on me, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying for an observer. I guess this would be

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<v Speaker 3>an accurate I'm more honest for the listener at least.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you think ideal in what you are describing?

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<v Speaker 3>How would you say, I am and trying to control

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<v Speaker 3>things around me.

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<v Speaker 1>You get very in your head, you get very quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>you pace, you get antsy, you start cleaning, and you

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<v Speaker 1>start saying to yourself, I believe this is my observation.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't control anything that's happening right now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really frustrated by it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna do what I can control, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to clean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get that because I have that tendency as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you I've never actually seen it in a man,

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<v Speaker 1>which I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>Laughter from the room. Why is that a thing? What

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<v Speaker 3>the way? Whoa what is that? I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Most men will like, I don't know, go do something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, like go jump in their car and

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<v Speaker 1>drive off, or you know, I don't know, chop some wood,

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<v Speaker 1>you clean wood?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I left my axe in my other apartment. What

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<v Speaker 3>are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I related to you on that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I actually know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I see you start going into like you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the scrubber and the soft scrub and you are like

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<v Speaker 1>in the tub like scrubbing, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he is, oh shit is just right now. He's

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<v Speaker 2>working through it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's working through it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you He's got the index and the soft

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<v Speaker 3>scrub out. You better this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Vacuum cleaner's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, But I know when you feel out of control,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>What about me? What do you see me doing? Spiral?

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<v Speaker 3>You spiral when things aren't going. Oh my goodness, Grace's sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>You say it, and this drives me, It doesn't dry me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating to see. And I've done this to you

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of times. I have used your tutelage that

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<v Speaker 3>you've given me to survive some of the worst moments

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<v Speaker 3>of my life the past five years or so, I

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<v Speaker 3>use them against you. I actually say, hey, sweetheart, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to settle, you need to center. Nothing you can

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<v Speaker 3>do about it. It's fine, It's gonna be okay, sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>We still got the whole deck. Don't ruin. I have

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<v Speaker 3>given you so many of those things, throwing them right

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<v Speaker 3>back on your face, and I've seen you go you

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<v Speaker 3>completely adjust. Just a little reminder, it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>do it ourselves, to implement those things that we know

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<v Speaker 3>are the right thing to do. And certainly in the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>you have taught me that, and I have been working

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<v Speaker 3>tirelessly for years on that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting you you have and it does work when

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<v Speaker 1>I am reminded. I know what the right thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do is or the right way to respond is. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I just if you just say, ropes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like. This is a drop in the bucket, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just a little bit of perspective and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I can switch it back off and go. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right When you're cleaning and you're in that headspace,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say to you because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to make it worse.

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<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to say, come here, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I do always try to. You know, it's stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when you're when you're in your in your cleaning frenzy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so no, but no, But what would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear in that moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing? Do you want space? I feel like you want

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<v Speaker 2>space in those moments.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want space. You know what I absolutely don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what's about to come out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have to educate someone on how

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<v Speaker 3>to comfort me in a moment of frustration and pain.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's very difficult to do. And I know that's

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<v Speaker 3>on me, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's different, so it's hard to know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know me better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the answer to that thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's the sweetheart. We we have a much bigger

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<v Speaker 3>examination of this relationship to do. Wow, I'm just kidding,

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<v Speaker 3>baby Jesus. Everybody got It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, because I said I help, you're like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to tell you how to help me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually haven't figured that out yet.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't after all this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what I've what I think you because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's different, but I think you need a little space.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you need a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Space and I trust, like I'm trusting you that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got this. If there's anything that I could do to help,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, but I think it would just feel maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even patronizing to you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's on me as well, because I am somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>sits in this this seat of well, if it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get done, I have to do it. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>depend on anybody. That's a problem. I know this is me,

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<v Speaker 3>but that is something I am not good at at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Is expecting help.

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<v Speaker 2>What about receiving help?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine, but I don't ever when I'm cleaning or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're wondering how to help me. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>an expectation that I'm going to get help, that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get any lifeline to get out of what

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<v Speaker 3>I am, of the place I'm in. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>just and you know that, and that's not a good

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<v Speaker 3>way to be. I know that as well. But I

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<v Speaker 3>am that I do struggle, and that's why sometimes something

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<v Speaker 3>goes on. It takes TJ. He needs forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 3>to be okay, have gotten better at that. We got

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<v Speaker 3>it down to maybe forty two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we'll get better, even better. But yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to get out of that. So back to

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking, you're the wasting of the energy to

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<v Speaker 3>try to control things. I would say you waste more

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<v Speaker 3>energy than I do trying to control things.

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<v Speaker 1>I might I would say that I waste more energy,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more explosive energy in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You might waste more.

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<v Speaker 3>Time explosive energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like it's more like all at once

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm over it. Like where I'm frustrated, you

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<v Speaker 1>will like seethe.

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<v Speaker 2>For like a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't seethe, sweetheart, come on now. Seething is a

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<v Speaker 3>strong quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Seething, a quiet seaton when you go when you withdraw, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so, I won't call it seizing.

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<v Speaker 3>I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're out of control, or you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't control things that are happening that you're frustrated by,

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<v Speaker 1>you withdraw, Okay, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go full teddy swams and set the bed on fire

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<v Speaker 3>and is short lived. No, yeah, but the bed is

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<v Speaker 3>on fire? Is the thing like, ah, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a four long fire. But I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>dump some water in here. And if that's not how

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<v Speaker 3>I roll yours is? It is explosive? Yes, you do,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm impressed you get over it. I really really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I get it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in explosive ways, Andy, is what she's saying here.

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<v Speaker 3>But can you please Andy, help us with this. You

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<v Speaker 3>have several I think you have ten on this list

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<v Speaker 3>of ways people? Can you explained what the list is? Again,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been talking here so long I forgot what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>This list comes from Bold. It's a list of what

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<v Speaker 4>you're wasting your energy on and uh, not being able

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<v Speaker 4>to control these things.

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<v Speaker 3>We just weighs a lot of energy even talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm hoping that people listening can relate either to

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<v Speaker 1>me or to you. But because I do think we

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<v Speaker 1>all have failures when it comes to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'm terrible with all these things. There's ten

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<v Speaker 4>of them, and I'm bad at all ten. So number

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<v Speaker 4>one is holding onto your past mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's actually been a really tough thing for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been really working hard on forgiving myself and

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<v Speaker 1>letting it go and just learning from them.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, that's a tough one for me. I don't think,

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<v Speaker 3>and again I ask for your help on this. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I hold on to past mistakes a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to get passed and move Really, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>again the training, I to call it training, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. I'm just kind of been working

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<v Speaker 3>on getting better at a bunch of things. But the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that I'm holding myself like, I'm always feeling as

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm a you know, too often I've listened to

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<v Speaker 3>others about who I am. I listen to other people

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<v Speaker 3>define me, and I'm thinking, well, maybe I am that,

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I am, and nobody knows me better than me.

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<v Speaker 3>So why am I listening to anybody else or that

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<v Speaker 3>idea of holding on to something in my past. I

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<v Speaker 3>screwed up. I screwed up a bunch and I know that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I try. I don't think I do a terrible

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<v Speaker 3>job and hold on to a lot of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think as a mother, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of guilt in my head about

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<v Speaker 1>how I could have done better, and I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling guilty about past mistakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you have two wonderful kids. One of them is

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<v Speaker 3>about to graduate from NYU. The other one was studying

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<v Speaker 3>abroad in Spain before she goes to Boulder with great grades.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't, Yeah, you need to work on your mother.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the number two?

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<v Speaker 4>Number two is saying yes to everyone but yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten way better at this, but I have been

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<v Speaker 1>terrible at that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been good at this forever. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 3>there is no that's you know, that's one of my things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just no, You've always been good at saying no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just I have no problem. I don't owe

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<v Speaker 3>anybody anything. I am forty seven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now have you always been like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I might have what's the thing in Your

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<v Speaker 3>success in life is based on what In your twenties,

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<v Speaker 3>your success is based on things you say yes yes too.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in your thirties and forties, your success is

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<v Speaker 3>based on things you say no to. And I have

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<v Speaker 3>been very comfortable in that space for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>not even stressed. Don't have an expectator like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>oh you anything. You have to say no. If we didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>so heart, we would be even more exhausted than we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Number three is dwelling on the what ifs.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, this has been a lot of work on

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<v Speaker 1>my and I always look back and say, don't say

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<v Speaker 1>what if, and don't say if only, and don't say

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<v Speaker 1>should have, could have, would have. Those are all very

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<v Speaker 1>damaging things to say to yourself because you can't undo

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. You can't change what happened. And maybe all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things happened because you needed.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn something.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I always go in my head. If

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<v Speaker 1>I start saying what if, if only, I say, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, what did I learn? And that is my

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<v Speaker 1>way out of that crazy headspace.

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<v Speaker 3>My only two things I've said, what if about I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a regret guy, but two regrets or two what

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<v Speaker 3>ifs that I struggle with one? What if I continued

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<v Speaker 3>playing football? That sounds crazy, but in junior high I

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<v Speaker 3>was a better football player than a basketball player. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was able to go on in basketball and get

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<v Speaker 3>some scholarship offers and even dabbled in basketball at the

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<v Speaker 3>University of Arkansas. I was a pretty good basketball player.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wondered, what if I stuck with football? What

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<v Speaker 3>if I but I broke my ankle and you know me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out. That's the wrap. Ninth grade broke my ankle,

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<v Speaker 3>true story, broke my ankle done, I'm over, no more football.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing, you know, sweetheart? The what if? There

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<v Speaker 3>is one? What if? That? Still maybe once a week

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind. Wow, what if I had announced to

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<v Speaker 3>the public in August of twenty twenty two that I

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<v Speaker 3>was getting a divorce. What if I went ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>told everybody in August of twenty twenty two that I

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<v Speaker 3>was no longer in a relationship, in a marriage, just

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<v Speaker 3>put that out there, and then in August of twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know I was gonna end up in a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with you, so then months later I did, and

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<v Speaker 3>people would have found out. It wouldn't have been startling.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been something that the tabloids could try

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<v Speaker 3>to exploit and take advantage of. It wasn't have been

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<v Speaker 3>an issue where the people who then you know, did

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<v Speaker 3>intentionally put that out to make it sound bad. They

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have had that option. So I that is my

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<v Speaker 3>one if that. I still struggle with, what if? Where?

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<v Speaker 3>How life would have been different if I'd have put

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<v Speaker 3>it out that I was divorced and this never wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have been something that a tabloid and the people who

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<v Speaker 3>told the tabloid were able to exploit. That is when

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<v Speaker 3>I still struggle with.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, and I think the lesson learned from

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<v Speaker 1>that that I have learned and you have learned the

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<v Speaker 1>hard way is transparency is key to communication and to understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can get into a mindset of thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't owe anybody anything, but that's where confusion takes place.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't speak, some one's going to speak

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so those are lessons that I think we both

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<v Speaker 1>learned during that time. So what if is good in

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<v Speaker 1>a reflective way if you can learn how to act

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<v Speaker 1>differently in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>So, folks, we are giving you ways to try to

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<v Speaker 3>stop wasting your energy to control certain things in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>We will continue with that list in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>but before we go, give us a little tease here, Andy,

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<v Speaker 3>what's coming up on this list. We've only gone through three.

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<v Speaker 3>We have several more to go, So going into the break, here,

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<v Speaker 3>give us a little tease of what we can expect.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, next break, you're going to hear about the fear

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<v Speaker 4>of failing, maybe overthinking a couple of decisions, and the

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<v Speaker 4>fear of judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, there you have it, folks, will be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>We are talking about something that I believe all of

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<v Speaker 1>us can relate to, trying to control things that we

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<v Speaker 1>cannot actually control, and wasting so much energy, so much emotion,

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<v Speaker 1>so much time on things that we actually can't change.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are working our way down a list which

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic in terms of finding ways to do better

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<v Speaker 1>and to be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, where are we were at number four?

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<v Speaker 3>Number four?

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<v Speaker 4>And one thing to stop wasting your energy on is

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<v Speaker 4>the fear of failing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I so so agree with this. I actually haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had this problem. I have failed many many times. And

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<v Speaker 1>I whether it's running a marathon or climbing a mountain

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<v Speaker 1>and not getting to the top, or going out and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be this in life and just setting

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<v Speaker 1>expectations for myself that might be far and above what's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but knowing that if I don't set them there, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't get anywhere near. So I have failed so many

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<v Speaker 1>times in my life, starting falling off of off the

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<v Speaker 1>beam when I was a gymnast and getting back on

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<v Speaker 1>it and doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's when you learn, that's when you grow. Failure

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge part of success for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually kind of remember whose quote this was, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is one I have. I picked this up very

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<v Speaker 3>early in life. But the idea is most people fail

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<v Speaker 3>because they didn't realize how close they were to success

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<v Speaker 3>when they decided to quit. And so that's it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter if it's not going well. If it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow might be the day. Right, six people turned us

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<v Speaker 3>down for this. Tomorrow is going to be the seventh.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a meeting, and that's going to be the one.

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<v Speaker 3>So that this is one you have to You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>be afraid to fail. If you do, what's the point.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the point of just being a valedictorian and following rules?

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<v Speaker 3>And I use that example. There are studies out there

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<v Speaker 3>that show valedictorians do fine in life, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>break any rules, they don't do anything different. They can

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<v Speaker 3>handle a task. But the wildly successful people are the

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<v Speaker 3>ones willing to take a risk, willing to fail, willing

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<v Speaker 3>to take all these chances. And so that's not one

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<v Speaker 3>I necessarily think I struggle with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same, I struggled with a lot of other.

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<v Speaker 1>Things though, as you've made clear, and I failed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and I'm still here all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Number five is clinging to your comfort zones.

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<v Speaker 3>Hm hm, oh you know what this I am thinking

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<v Speaker 3>career here, right, we were in jobs that we would

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<v Speaker 3>never have left in all likelihood because it was what

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<v Speaker 3>very comfortable, comfortable, It was safe, dare I say even

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was easy to a certain degree relatively speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>We knew how to do that thing and we were

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<v Speaker 3>very comfortable where we were. So that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 3>tough one. You cling to a comfort zone. I think

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<v Speaker 3>in relationships oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say the same thing and cling too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is okay, and this is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>messy if I go anything else, and the kids are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be I think we have a tendency to

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny because I used to say this and

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<v Speaker 1>then I guess I've lived it. I never want to

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<v Speaker 1>be wait, I never I never want to get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I always want to relish being uncomfortable because that means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pushing myself into something that either I think I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do or I shouldn't do. But it's pushing me

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<v Speaker 1>into growth. And so I never wanted to get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I always said that, and it I actually get scared.

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<v Speaker 2>When I get comfortable. I actually get nervous when.

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<v Speaker 1>I get comfortable. Relationship, No, I'm not comfortable yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Good. I want to keep you on your tails growing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not comfortable, and I think that it's that offers

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<v Speaker 1>you a daily challenge to do better, to be better,

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<v Speaker 1>and to see where I can take you.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll discuss it later, Okay, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I actually I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that that I maybe even enjoy being uncomfortable, and

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<v Speaker 1>it might explain a lot of my life to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are confused by it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a good way to be and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and I think it's okay. Some aren't. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not built that way, I say. I. I mean some

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<v Speaker 3>people can say that about themselves. They're not built in

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<v Speaker 3>such a way that they can be uncomfortable to take

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<v Speaker 3>a chance. And people have reasons to say no, I

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<v Speaker 3>need to keep this very steady job with this these benefits.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's okay. These people are different in

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<v Speaker 3>that way. There are that's that's those a chance and

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<v Speaker 3>that's a risk, and this I understand people being risk averrs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just yes, and I think that in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>being willing to yes, run a marathon, train for a marathon,

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<v Speaker 1>have all these uncomfortable things happened.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, and doing it anyway and maybe even.

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<v Speaker 1>Having a hard time explaining to other people why you

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<v Speaker 1>still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was born that way. I definitely was.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think there's a point that you could push

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<v Speaker 4>yourself too far?

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<v Speaker 3>Though I haven't found it yet, but that answer has

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<v Speaker 3>to be yes. Yeah. I think we've gotten close to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we discussed it a lot because I've I think

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<v Speaker 3>what we said in a previous podcast. I said to

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<v Speaker 3>you in the bedroom not longer. I remember where I

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<v Speaker 3>was as a sweetheart. I am going to drop dead

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<v Speaker 3>because it's too much going on. I'm not sleeping enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just worn the hell out. So I think, yeah,

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 3>you can push yourself too much, you can go too far.

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<v Speaker 3>You can I am finally for the first time in

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<v Speaker 3>my life. We talked about this with the marathon. For

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<v Speaker 3>the first time in my life. My body is not

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<v Speaker 3>letting me physically do something with his achilles and now

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<v Speaker 3>a footprint. I got all kinds of issues. What's that

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<v Speaker 3>from trying to run? Trying to run two marathons on

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<v Speaker 3>a bum achilles. I planned that I could have skipped

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<v Speaker 3>one of them. At least that's too much. We get

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<v Speaker 3>up at a two three in the morning and going

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<v Speaker 3>all day hard. That's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. When it's too much, your body tells you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've certainly had enough things happen physically to me

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<v Speaker 1>where I have had to acknowledge that I was pushing

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<v Speaker 1>myself too hard. But for me, it does take something

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<v Speaker 1>busy typically to make me stop or or rethink how

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm approaching things, from crippling migrain headaches to having had

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<v Speaker 1>to have heart surgery to having breast answer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have definitely had some physical wake up calls where

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've pushed myself too far and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to reassess and take.

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<v Speaker 2>Care of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But it hasn't stopped me being willing to be uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's put the brakes on certain ways

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<v Speaker 1>of living, and a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it has been about balance. So balance is important,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think for me, I've had to learn it

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<v Speaker 2>the hard way.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we up to know?

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<v Speaker 4>We're on number six and number six is comparing yourself

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<v Speaker 4>to others.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, that is what anybody on Instagram you need to

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 3>listen to that one.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've gotten way better at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, gracious, that's a tough one.

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Younger. When I was younger, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crippling, absolutely and thank god I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>social media, but the young when I was younger, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably one of the most difficult things to

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<v Speaker 1>not do. It's just I think it's a natural thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And I don't know if women are more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to do it than men. I can't speak for men,

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>but I know that that's something that I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>with my daughters, and I've been really proud of them

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<v Speaker 1>for being unique individuals. I think that's something to be celebrated,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think people talk about it more now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, social media, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A really really tough place to be if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, or you know that's one of your issues,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're just constantly comparing yourself to other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it. I don't. That's not something I do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of. But the one way I do do

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<v Speaker 3>it is oftentimes, throughout my career, I'm twenty five and

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<v Speaker 3>I look at another twenty five year old, I'm like, oh,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 3>they're there. Wow? Am I not there yet? I'm thirty

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and they're thirty. I'm like, oh, wow, they have that

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<v Speaker 3>much success. Why haven't I? And at every stage of

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>my life, I usually compare myself to Kobe Bryant because

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Coby and I.

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<v Speaker 2>A so you were just in a constant state of depression.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, uh. You know what I'm saying is that

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 3>that kid. I watched him and you probably don't remember

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 3>this because but his first couple of game like playoff games,

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>he was seventeen eighteen years old. He and I were

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 3>about the same age, and he shot air balls. It

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>was embarrassing right in this game, but he kept shooting,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 3>He kept shooting. And I'm looking at this guy, this

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<v Speaker 3>kid on this stage about the same age. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>who else is I compare myself to Usher? Now I

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<v Speaker 3>know this sounds crazy, wow, but because these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>about the same age and this is the time, I'm

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 3>still in high school, I'm nothing, I'm not even starting

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>my career. But I'm looking at these guys as contemporaries

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 3>in some way to where wow, they have that level

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 3>of success at that age. They are doing this on

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 3>the world stage and being cheered at that age, What

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 3>am I doing? What can I be doing? Where should

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I be going? And it was a motivating thing. I

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 3>know that sounds insane, but those two guys who I

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 3>later got to be around, got to spend time with,

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<v Speaker 3>got to interview. Those were guys I looked at and

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<v Speaker 3>always tried to compare time lines too, because we were

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<v Speaker 3>all seventeen eighteen at the same time. That is where

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 3>that question of comparison and other people's success has been

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<v Speaker 3>a part. And it took until I was probably thirty

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<v Speaker 3>or so to realize, oh wait, And I started to

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<v Speaker 3>see people who were twenty two when I was comparing

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<v Speaker 3>myself with it. Now I'm way ahead of at thirty,

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 3>and even farther ahead of when I'm thirty five and

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<v Speaker 3>blowing them out of the water at four. Right, So

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 3>that took a while to actually come around to. So

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 3>I get what you're saying. You're being funny, that like

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<v Speaker 3>being priced, you're comparing yourself.

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>But no, it was motivating.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.959
<v Speaker 3>It was I always looked at those guys because we

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 3>were the same age.

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<v Speaker 2>You weren't jealous, you were motivated.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I was, and so I was comparing myself to them.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that was Maybe those guys are responsible for

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 3>me working and busting my butt as well as I

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 3>did to get to a place of pretty good success.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and do you think it's harder for younger people?

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<v Speaker 4>Having daughters yourself who were younger, do you think it's

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<v Speaker 4>harder nowadays to not compare yourself to others?

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure.

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have visuals of other people, my friends or

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>people who I'm a contemporary with. And of course everyone

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>usually just puts out the best and the brightest pictures

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and images on Instagram, so you're having a false impression

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>of what their life is like, and then you're comparing

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it to whatever you're going through.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's it's almost inescapable.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think you have to acknowledge it and say,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I am going to choose not to do this because

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a human experience. I think to do that

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and then to have it constantly at your fingertips on

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>your phone is it could be absolutely detrimental.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 3>And obviously those people on Instagram, they took what twenty

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 3>takes and how many filters it takes them two hours

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>to put out one picture that you think is just natural. Yeah,

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's a farce. Yeah, it's an absolute farce. Okay.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>So number seven is overthinking every decision.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that, and probably should. I should probably

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>overthink it more or overthink it beforehand. But I am

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a I'm somebody who definitely makes quick decisions and then

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I I think I'm okay with accepting the consequences.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You know me the opposite, I think, think, think, think, overthink,

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and then I am so once the decision is made,

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, on the opposite, but I will overthink.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 3>After the decision is done, then I will I have

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>no I feel so confident in the decision. Once the

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 3>decision is made, I.

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>Both hate and love this next one.

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Number hate And it sounded like he was judging our life. No,

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 3>feel right? Right?

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel right.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm more of an amy definitely not in the situation.

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's what that was way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>He drives me crazy with how much time it takes

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>him to make a decision sometimes, but he does I do.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I will say I have seen the value in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, babe, is it time or is it?

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, dude, are you really going that deep? Because I

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 3>can make a decision in ten minutes, but I will

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>take it down and deep and like, do why are

0:28:58.800 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>we even you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm impatient ten minutes or too much?

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh No, I'm talking about like deciding where we're gonna go,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like for vacations, and it can take weeks or an airbnb.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Take weeks, it can take days. I can make a

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>decision in minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait a minute. You just say you went from

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<v Speaker 3>weeks today. Do you see what I'm talking about.

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, it depends on the time what we're doing. No,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean it has taken weeks.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>You can take it. You can make a decision in what.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Minutes and I might regret it about where I'm going.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I could book a plane, I could book a hotel room.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I could book a vacation in under ten minutes and

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>feel good about it.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 3>And then once we get here or there and the steps,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh god, I didn't realize we're not sitting

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 3>together on this flight. Oh my god, I cannot believe

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the hotel is in this neighborhood. Oh my god, we

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>have to fly into where. That's what happens. That doesn't

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 3>happen with my planning. Okay, your silence speaks volumes.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm I stand.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I've loved all of my vacations.

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<v Speaker 4>You number eight is waiting for someone else to change.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I suck at that still waiting.

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, so.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>That is absolutely wasted energy, because yes, you do that.

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I have done it in the past, and it doesn't

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>ever ever change anything. So it's only men through years

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of experience where I have I definitely feel good about

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>where I am with a Now, you either accept people

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>as they are or you don't. But if you are

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>waiting for them to change, you are wasting your time.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Out of doubt, I.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Would say never that's not something I do waiting for

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>somebody to change or needing them or asking them to change.

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Even people are who they are. Certainly at the ages

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.239
<v Speaker 3>we are that you're not gonna change a whole lot.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people stay in relationships hoping that

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the other person's going to come around, hoping the other

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>person is going to amend or change or whatever, and

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that does happen. Or even a job. You know you're

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>waiting for something to change or to get better. But

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the reality is you either accept it or you move on,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and that those are really your only two choices. And

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>once you kind of get to that place in your head,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it's freeing because now you're free to make the choice

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to make instead of waiting for someone else.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, we're up to what not number nine nine?

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>The fear of judgment.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I can say that I struggle with that. So

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you you might not.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Put it all out there. You hide you're crazy a

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>You might not share everything you're thinking or feeling because

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you're afraid if you do say it, someone will think

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>differently of you.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>No, are you talking in general or in relationships about general?

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>In general in relationships, I think if you really want

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to have a true, honest, good relationship, you have to

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>be honest. You have to people even if you know

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it might elicit judgment.

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Then that's good. Then you know that, then you know

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna work.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Then if I say I think this about that, and

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that's going to have such a big response.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>That you amend what you think, amend what you.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Feel, that's a to me, that's a red flag that

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not with the right person.

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>You know. I go back to divorce and that I was.

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I was so worried about judgment that I didn't even

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>tell my mom I was getting divorced. You know that.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even tell my mom about it. In August

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>of twenty two. I didn't even tell her. So the

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>fear of judgment, it just you hate and we've dealt with.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I'm thinking of Jenna Kramer right

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>now when she's a fourth marriage, is it?

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Four divorces.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, but there's a four.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a fourth.

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, and I'm a zero judgment here.

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I say that to make a point that even though

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 3>she's been very open and talking about her relationships and

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>her relationship history. Even when she was talking about it

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 3>to us, she had a little caveat to wear. Well,

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 3>let me explain, there was still something in her that

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 3>was worried about in talking to us.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Judgment, Right, the first two marriages didn't really count because

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>they were only this amount of time.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know why that that thought or that

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>scenario or that story just came to mind. But that

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 3>type of thing to where at that time with me, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want I mean, it's is it embarrassing? I

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's the right word, but you hate

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>to have somebody say this, I don't want to d

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>on my resume? Right, So I got two d's right

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 3>when I rette two divorces on my resume, And nobody

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>likes or wants that. But it's that that is one

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I have struggled with. I don't you fear of judgment

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 3>for the way your life has played out, because in

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 3>somebody else's in the wider society's mind, it shouldn't be

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>that way. You should have done this, you should have

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>done that, You should have tried harder, you should have

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 3>stuck together. That thing gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean yes, and I have been the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of judgment for a lot of my life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm now at a place where I feel good

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>about owning what I've done. I might err on the

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>side of defending myself a little bit too much, but

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I've gotten better at that, because the more

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you try and defend yourself, the more unsure it seems

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you are about your choices. And I just think at

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I fall back on this,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather like I think we all know in our chest,

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in our hearts, what the right thing to do is

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what's right for us, and if we don't follow that

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>because we're afraid of being judged.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>That's the mistakes I've made.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>The big mistakes I've made in my life have been

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>because I've been more concerned about what someone else is

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>going to think or say versus what I know is

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<v Speaker 1>right for me.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 3>You know this sounds you say that the decisions we've made.

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 3>My first marriage happened not long after my granddad, God

0:34:55.920 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 3>rest his soul. He came into the apartment where we

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 3>were living at the time, and he said, man, you

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 3>gotta do the right thing. Can't just be shacking up.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>He actually said to me made a statement that you

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>should be married if you're going to be living together. Now,

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 3>that's for my granddad. Who a guy who I that

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 3>makes time in my life. He's one of the three

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 3>dudes I have respected most, and he's saying that to me.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So the fear of judgment comes from family, It comes

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 3>from friends, it comes from society. It comes from Instagram,

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 3>it comes from viewers, it comes from listeners. It comes

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 3>from all these places. And I know I shouldn't have

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 3>gotten married first time, maybe shouldn't have gotten married the

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>second time, but those are all part of my experience.

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>And now I'm sitting here twice divorced and still worried

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 3>about how that looks to someone outside of me and

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 3>my family or people who know and understand me. So

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 3>that out of everything on this list, that might be

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<v Speaker 3>the one that stings most. We got ten here. Give

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 3>it to him again, Andy, What what are the ten

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 3>things that want?

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<v Speaker 2>Number nine?

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Ten? No?

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 3>It was it was you can see I was having

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>a moment, man, that was that was heavy. I was

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>tray to wrap this thing up.

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I have one more to torch you.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>So sorry.

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Number ten is needing approval from everyone.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wet it strong. Oh no, no, no, no. We

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>talk about judgment, but then approval is something different. Right,

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>worried about what somebody thinks about me versus needing somebody's

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 3>acceptance of me. They seem like the same thing. But

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 3>you see me operate in this way that I am

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>in one on one and Okay, I don't I don't care.

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I am not putting on in front of people in

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 3>a personal way to try to get them to think

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 3>this of me or to accept me.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You're very good at that. I am not. I do

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>seek approval from everyone. I do.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I want it. I'm people to like me. I want

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>people to understand. No, no, they do not do. I

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>want people to Yeah, I want approval. I want people.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I like an atta boy, and I work hard for it,

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>and I have two extremes. Actually with my job, I've.

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I've absolutely continued to say yes when I should have

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>said no because I was seeking approval.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And I've found my worth in.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>External forces. I've found my worth and what people thought

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of me. I've found my worth. And if people thought

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I was a hard enough worker, or a smart enough journalist,

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>or a you know, just a all of those things.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I still deal with that. I have not

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I have not overcome that. I don't know that I

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>ever will. I'm aware of it. I'm aware of it,

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and I know that I seek approval and I I do,

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, every day. I seek it from you.

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I seek it from my daughters. I seek it from

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>my parents. Yeah, I do. Just my choice is or

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>how I operate or you know, I want you to

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>approve of how I operate.

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good way to put it, I guess,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's not healthy.

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I should just be happy and secure in the knowledge

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing the best I can.

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not there.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Wow, And you know this is not I mean, I

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't think about that. I didn't know what was on

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 3>the list. I think race comes into that for me,

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 3>at least, I am. I am so used to not

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 3>having society's approval. I am so used to There's nothing

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I can do to make somebody think differently of me

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 3>based on what they think about a black man. I

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 3>am not going to make you feel better, feel safer,

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 3>more secure. I'm not going to make you think I'm smarter.

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to thank you. I'm not going to anything.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 3>So I never waste energy in that respect, even working

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 3>in the industry where I am so used to getting

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I think you've heard it before, right, it was so

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 3>offensive to me. Oh, TJ is he's so funny, he's

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 3>so quick, he's so this or that. There was always

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a reason to explain why TJ was excelling on television

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 3>other than he's smart. He actually works harder than me.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 3>He actually studied harder than me. Right, None of that

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 3>stuff came into play. So when it comes to acceptance,

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I was actually comfortable in the idea I am never

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>going to win approval from these people ever, so I

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>stopped trying. I'm not even sure you know what it was.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 3>It was a CNN. I wasted several years at CNN

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to be wolf Blitzer because I thought, oh, I

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 3>need to sound this way, I need to look this,

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I need to be something other than me to excel.

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>So I have never, for quite some time, at least

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I can remember, tried to get anybody's approval or acceptance,

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 3>because what you think of me is what is going

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to be, and that does factor in. I never thought

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 3>about it, and didn't know this was going to come up,

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 3>but I never thought about it in that way until

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess kind of this question brings it up. Approval. Mmm,

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 3>nothing I can do about what some people think of me,

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:16.919
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not gonna try.

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a healthy way to be. And it's I don't know,

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's kind of funny you mentioned race. I hadn't

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>thought about it like that. Yeah, And I think maybe

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the reverse maybe is true for me, where the expectations

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>were this and so I needed to meet them. I

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>needed to match them. I needed to prove that I

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>was what they thought. And so for whatever reason, Yeah,

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I still struggle with that.

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Damn man, is there an eleven? This one got heavy?

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, the cool thing about this list

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is all ten of those things are you know, we

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>do a version of them, some more than others. But

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>they all take away from our energy and from our

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>time and from our healthy mental spaces, and so it's

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>important to hear them, recognize them, and then try to

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.959
<v Speaker 1>I think acknowledging them is the most important thing. Right,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I learned something about myself just hearing you go through

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that list and recognizing it is a huge part of it.

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>And then just when you when you feel yourself going

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 1>there or doing that or starting to waste your energy.

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>You can say, wait, wait, wait, this is.

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll use it again a fool's Errand I'm not going

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to change anything. I'm not going to change anyone's mind.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>All I can do is accept who I am and

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>do better.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Give it to the listeners one more time and it

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 3>what's the list here of things they can stop wasting

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 3>your energy? Folks doing these things?

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 4>What is it holding onto your past mistakes, saying yes

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 4>to everyone but yourself, dwelling on what ifs, the fear

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 4>of failing, clinging to comfort zones, comparing yourself to others,

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 4>overthinking every decision, waiting for someone else to change, the

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 4>fear of judgment. And number ten is needing approval from everyone.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow, those are good.

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Those are good because those are all energy vampires that

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I have absolutely succumb to multiple times.

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably still gonna do it. I'm gonna try not to.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Folks. Hope you got something that was something you said

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 3>earlier and it reminded me of the serenity prayer. I

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>think we used it not too long ago versus something

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:24.479
<v Speaker 3>you know. I think it was Jamie Lee.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Curtis after the election.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about leaving Twitter, right, she was so she

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 3>used the serenity prayer. But there's a there's another it's

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 3>a longer prayer, and there's a part something you said

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>that made me think of it. But folks don't remember

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 3>the next line. Can you can anybody recite the first

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 3>part of the serendiy prayer, Lord, grant me the serenity

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 3>to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 3>change the things I can, and the wisdom to know

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the difference.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that was very if not verbatim, very close.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>That's the one. But the next line of that serendy

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 3>prayer is living one day at a time, enjoying one

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>moment at a time, and accepting hardships as the pathway

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 3>to peace, which I think always is the doper part

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 3>of the serenity prayer, but nobody recites.

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for that.

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>We can take that with us and we appreciate you

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and your words of wisdom, and thank you Andy for

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>helping us try to do better with our energy and

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 1>our mental health, because that is what it's all about

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. This is about us

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>taking care of ourselves and recognizing the moments when we

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>can do better. And really, when you help yourself, you

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>help everyone around you.

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>So I love this and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to say thanks to our other You have been

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>hearing from our super producer Andy in the room, but

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 3>our other super produce of Cilia. You haven't heard her

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>voice during this podcast, but she has helped so much

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 3>just with her facial expressions. She's letting us know if

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 3>we're on the right path or hey, guys, you need

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 3>to cut this one short. So she's been great in

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 3>the room as well. We just want to acknowledge.

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, have a wonderful day. I hope this

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>helps with your.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Peace and your harmony in your life.

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