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Speaker 2: Cowboys, This is Mick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot

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Speaker 1: Here are Bill Jones, Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And well, good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the

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Speaker 3: taj Mahall of Football here in Frisco, Texas, home of

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Speaker 3: your Dallas Cowboys. Welcome into the brilliant the SWBC Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 3: You are now rocking with the best. I'm Heck Maharrison,

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Speaker 3: he is a Super Bowl champion. Everson Walls is here.

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Speaker 3: And the man that the show is named after, Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, can we get claps all around for

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Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola being in the building.

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Speaker 4: Mickey, how are you sir?

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Speaker 5: Where's Bill Jones?

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Speaker 4: That is That's what I was looking for.

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Speaker 5: Three out of four eight bad?

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Speaker 3: Three out of four ain't bad. Bill Jones is attending

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Speaker 3: to other matters and he will not be missed. He

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Speaker 3: should make it back by then.

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Speaker 4: He'll be back. He'll be back by the end of

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 3: But guys, I get an opportunity to host today, so

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Speaker 3: it's my rules. We're gonna hit all of this today, Micky,

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Speaker 3: look at your list, every last topic on here.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna hit it, Mickey, I hope you wrote that

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Speaker 4: down in that cheek chins.

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Speaker 5: Here's the list.

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Speaker 6: There is the list. Okay, yeah, sure you got that. Sure,

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Speaker 6: the list right here. I gave you your thumbs up.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only one gave you a thumb It's okay, man,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me. Hey, but I want to ask you,

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Speaker 3: the guys this because when I get an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: To host the show, I asked this question.

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Speaker 3: I start with my host and I asked a mental

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Speaker 3: check in, how are you doing today? I'm checking on you,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna start with you. Ever, Socenar are you today?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 6: You know you would ask me that because today I

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Speaker 6: am recovering from a bad I don't know if it's

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Speaker 6: an absence or what. On my gum, I didn't get

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Speaker 6: to go to Charles Hayley's off turn. It just it

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Speaker 6: was throbbing so much it went into my head.

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Speaker 4: It was a headache. Man. I was all night just

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Speaker 4: feeling like that's fun.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, Sorry we asked, yeah right, I just wanted to hear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. God had to take the Abeville and stuff.

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Speaker 6: I can't be taking that stuff on one kidney, but

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Speaker 6: I had to, man, I had to.

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Speaker 3: But you are here here, but you made it so

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Speaker 3: much better. Abscess on your job.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm good now though, I'm good now. Don't take what

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: What the hell happens, bag, but I'm gonna tell you this.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: I'm blessed because boy, that could have been a whole

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Speaker 6: lot worse when it turned out to be. Got a

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Speaker 6: good night sleep, I got good people at home, take

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Speaker 6: care of me, Mickey.

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Speaker 4: How are you today?

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Speaker 5: Great as always?

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Speaker 3: Great as always as always? Well good to hear man,

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Speaker 3: Well can we ask how you doing?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: I'm you know what They lit me in the door

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Speaker 3: down there. I'm blessed they opened the door one more time.

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Speaker 6: All right, how long as that door is opening for you,

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Speaker 6: crossing my finger at the door every time, and crip walk, no.

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Speaker 4: Crip walker.

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Speaker 8: Every time I hit this badge at the door and

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Speaker 8: it opens, I'm going.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So you know the feeling, you know, the always checked.

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Speaker 6: Like that only mixed shots is supposed to fill because

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Speaker 6: we are always teetering on the edge if it doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: It's like.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that I was going to be hosting

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Speaker 3: it there. Had I known that, I would have sent

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Speaker 3: you guys home with a little homework like Bill usually.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but you did good in the rundown.

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Speaker 3: In the rundown and specifically about this New York Giants defense,

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Speaker 3: because I think everyone out there believes that this New

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Speaker 3: York Giants defense is the strength of their team. Now offensively,

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Speaker 3: after the first week against the Philadelphia Eagles, we feel

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Speaker 3: a lot better about our offense, specifically our offensive line.

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Speaker 3: And so Mickey, I read your article where you talked

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Speaker 3: about this team and it's specifically the offense and possibly

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Speaker 3: this running game dominating against the Giants, and your words you.

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Speaker 4: Thought no one cared? What's that you thought no one cared?

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Speaker 4: Did you about?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 4: But I just write read it and he is ready

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Speaker 4: to talk about it. Let's do it? Well?

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Speaker 5: Can I just push that back just a little bits?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 5: Can you play cornerback?

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 5: They might need you for real?

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Speaker 4: Is it that Bland? What is going on? Man? I

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Speaker 4: didn't know his foot was hurt.

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Speaker 5: He's probably out multiple weeks.

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Speaker 4: What is happening? Man?

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Speaker 3: Why can't that happened Monday? That happened happened Monday, comes

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Speaker 3: down today and I mean yesterday when we got the

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Speaker 3: word on that.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, misspractice and think about now, think about it.

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Speaker 8: So Bland, I mean he's he's probably he's out for

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Speaker 8: this game, maybe the next game. Iber Flu said that

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Speaker 8: I was just listening to him and he said that,

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Speaker 8: you know, unfortunate. Feel bad for him, but we got

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Speaker 8: to have guys step up. But here's the problem. If

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Speaker 8: I listed you the Cowboys' top six cornerbacks, two of them.

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Speaker 5: Will play on Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Diggs who's ramping up by the way, so how many

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Speaker 8: last week? And kyir Elam They got four guys out

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Speaker 8: now with Bland, uh savonn Revel on NFI still, Josh

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Speaker 8: Butler on IR, Kaylin Carson on IR always. So there's

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Speaker 8: four of the top six will not be available on Sunday,

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Speaker 8: and you need three right at least, So now you

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Speaker 8: got four for sure?

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Speaker 6: Right, Hey, I know there's there was a guy out there.

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Speaker 6: He had number twenty four on.

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Speaker 4: He was there God, But I told you God.

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Speaker 5: That he's been gone for two years now.

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Speaker 4: In your article you talked about Ready Stewart.

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Speaker 8: Ready Stewart was the guy that if Bland, I mean,

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Speaker 8: if Diggs wasn't ready to go, he was going to

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Speaker 8: go into the slot and Land would have stayed outside.

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Speaker 8: So to me, he's probably the first guy up here.

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Speaker 8: He knows the defense since he played with Eberflus last year,

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Speaker 8: but he didn't play that much. And then tri Quiz

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Speaker 8: And I think they got to think about elevating Zion

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Speaker 5: Doesn't have enough numbers.

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Speaker 4: There's the name right there, Zion Childress. That's the guy

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Speaker 4: that you were confident in him and.

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Speaker 8: Until they brought in these other guys and then he

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Speaker 8: ended up on the practice squad. So yeah, when they

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Speaker 8: go to Nickel, I mean to me, Diggs has got

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Speaker 8: he said they would increase his see how the practice goes,

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Speaker 8: his snaps too, So this is somewhat problematic. Now, obviously

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Speaker 6: To me, you know, this is a time where you know,

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Speaker 6: you start, you don't really look at positions. You just

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Speaker 6: look at numbers. You're looking at players. You know, you

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Speaker 6: bring childrens back or whoever you bring back, or whoever

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Speaker 6: you bring in. They don't necessarily have to be cornerbacks

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Speaker 6: at this point. You got to just bring in bodies, right,

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Speaker 6: bring in somebody whoever your best safety is at coverage,

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Speaker 6: then he might have to be the guy.

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Speaker 8: Slot and Thomas would probably fill that role among the

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Speaker 8: safeties depending on who they're matching up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, I.

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Speaker 8: Don't know if you want to go nickel if they're

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Speaker 3: Some I like what you're saying about that bringing in

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Speaker 3: bodies versus position, but you think about last week what

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get that same thing this week

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Speaker 3: as well with Russell, you know, he doesn't stretch the

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Speaker 3: at Slayton, Darius, Slayton Robinson and Neighbors being the wide

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Speaker 3: to worry about not allow him to get loose.

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Speaker 4: Their weakness is offensive line, right, Oh, absolutely, yes, of

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Speaker 6: That our defensive line puts as much precious possible so

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Speaker 6: so that he won't be under duress for four or

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Speaker 8: So when you have unfamiliar, not unfamiliar, inexperienced guys at cornerback,

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Speaker 8: is it easier to play zone or you want them

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Speaker 4: What would you do?

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Speaker 6: Whatever you play, it has to be simple, Okay, whatever

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Speaker 6: you play zone or man, I'm not particular to either one,

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Speaker 6: as long as you make sure you keep it as

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Speaker 6: gonna move, if there's movement, keep it simple, guys. If

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Speaker 6: there's movement in man, keep it simple. Movement in the zone.

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Speaker 6: Keep it simple, and we can do that against this team,

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Speaker 6: but once again in the trenches, we need to make sure.

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Speaker 6: And I saw good coverage in the back against Philadelphia

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Speaker 6: and I saw good pressure on Jalen Hurts in the game.

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Speaker 4: But Jalen is Jalen.

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Speaker 5: But you got to keep him in there.

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Speaker 6: You got to keep him in there, and we should

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Speaker 6: have learned from last week. But having said that.

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Speaker 4: Russell's not He's not teetering on a cane or anything.

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Speaker 4: But he is a guy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he is a guy that can gig Giftrige

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Speaker 6: five yards if he has to, if you let him

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Speaker 6: right the commanders didn't let him do that.

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Speaker 4: We cannot let him do that in this game.

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Speaker 8: If you look at what they did last this first week,

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Speaker 8: he completed seventeen or thirty seven passes, but eleven of

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Speaker 8: those were too wide receivers. The rest were running backs

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Speaker 6: Is that why Neighbors were so pissed off in the game,

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Speaker 6: I guess, and he was going that different.

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Speaker 3: Neighbors is pissed off because he has a bad quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They can't get the ball team. He got a bad team.

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Speaker 3: He just pissed off because he's in a situation where

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Speaker 3: the passes thrown to him are falling incomplete.

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Speaker 8: So well, if you think about it, the pressure that

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Speaker 8: they put on Russell Wilson, he got sacked twice, eight

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Speaker 5: But this is the other part.

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Speaker 8: He had to run the ball eight times, so he's

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Speaker 8: not they're not calling quarterback draws for him, right right,

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Speaker 4: Game of last year with Liz Frank.

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Speaker 4: What was the score of the Commander's Giants?

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Speaker 5: Came twenty one six.

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Speaker 6: You know when you look at that twenty one, When

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Speaker 8: Well, think about this, and I know it was six.

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Speaker 8: They had eleven snaps inside from the eight yard line

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Speaker 5: They were so far behind, they moved, they got there.

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Speaker 4: And see, but they got to look at those things,

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Speaker 6: We found out from a lot of losing around here

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Speaker 4: It ended up being maybe a three score game, four

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Speaker 6: It was last year, but there was a moment there

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Speaker 6: you know, it ends up being for nothing. But if

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Speaker 6: You only got twenty one points on the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: And you let them score six and you're in the

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Speaker 8: You were talking about the Cowboys opener for you you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and put this on Daniels, the quarterback for the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: looking at it should have been a thirty five six,

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Speaker 4: You tell me about this New York Giants defensive line.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that they've got some pass rushers that

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Speaker 8: It was a calmness and it was like, can we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I guess they were.

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Speaker 8: They were using Carter as a back kind of a rotation,

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, you know, they they need to create a

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Speaker 8: But Jaden Daniel had eleven carries for sixty eight yards.

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Speaker 8: So does that sound familiar to what the Cowboys let.

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Speaker 5: Hurts get away with?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 8: And I know they rushed for what two hundred and

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Speaker 8: twenty yards, But when your quarterback rushes for sixty eight

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Speaker 8: that makes a huge, huge.

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Speaker 6: I'll quarterback won't be doing that, I don't think. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he's in good shit, h he won't know trying to

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Speaker 4: Let's hope.

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Speaker 3: Let's just hope and pray that he doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: run for sixty eight sixty eight yards. You could put

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Speaker 3: the onus on Williams to be well to carry.

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Speaker 8: The low absolutely, but again, if the pass rush starts

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Speaker 3: Well before we get to the before you get to

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Speaker 3: yards that they gave up, and to me, that's the

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Speaker 3: biggest thing that you know, as for a Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 4: Week, steady diet. That's all I'm getting though, But remember

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Speaker 4: eighty seven of those yards were was the quarterback and.

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Speaker 8: One debo nineteen yard run. So you know, if you

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Speaker 8: gave up what one hundred and I don't know what

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Speaker 8: it comes to, one hundred and twenty yards or what

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Speaker 4: I'll take great production.

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Speaker 8: I'll take that because the Cowboys had one hundred and

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Speaker 4: I'll take that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and so, and against what you considered a better

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Speaker 3: Did you watch the play the Debo run the nineteen

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Speaker 3: twenty yard run. Yes, you know what I thought about when.

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Speaker 4: I saw that?

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Speaker 5: Would you like him on your team?

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Speaker 4: No? No, I didn't think that. I thought about it.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 3: I thought about your guy. I thought about your guy,

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Speaker 3: covent A Turpin. I said, that is the perfect play

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Speaker 3: for Covente Turpin. They did like a bunch of trips,

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Speaker 3: bunch formation. Devo goes in in motion, circles back around

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Speaker 3: They couldn't stop it. They had it blocked up very well.

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Speaker 3: And seat Nahmer has that in his playbook.

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Speaker 5: So yes, he does. I saw it.

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Speaker 6: Do you think think that has something to do with

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Speaker 3: Did they hold it is? I'm gonna take you something well.

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Speaker 3: I watched Thibodeau and he takes place off. He is

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Speaker 3: one of those guys he will on that nineteen yard run.

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Speaker 3: Watch Thibodaux on that, and he we see you. You

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Speaker 3: got a loaf on that. When we got back to

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Speaker 3: film stuff, I'm sure they saw that. Cowboys see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So gods take breaks. And I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: you know, abdual Carter came in asking for Lawrence Taylor's number. Uh,

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Speaker 4: It's not a good one. I don't know what number

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Speaker 4: might not see him fifty one, fifty one.

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Speaker 5: But see he by the way at Penn State War eleven.

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Speaker 3: If that just reads just can't you know what, there's

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Speaker 3: no way we can get away with no? Well, what

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Speaker 3: about their secondary? Their secondary for the Giants? What did

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't see anything there That just scared me.

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Speaker 8: I just think you got to block it up front

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Speaker 8: and to where you started credit this offensive line. Right,

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Speaker 8: none of these five guys played a game together, I

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: You add a rookie. Geiton got hurt. I think it

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Speaker 8: Twenty eighth, and he didn't have a padded practice until

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Speaker 8: Considering the fact that you're starting a rookie there, you're

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Speaker 4: What did you think about his game?

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Speaker 8: I think it was I thought I saw improvement. It

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Speaker 5: I thought he fought better, not meaning the swing he

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Speaker 4: I like that that he meant. I liked that.

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Speaker 5: You know what it reminded me.

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Speaker 8: It reminded me of Eric Williams, who would do whatever

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Speaker 5: And it's like.

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Speaker 4: Favor I thought Nate Newton was his favorite. Then they left.

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Speaker 8: They left Eric, but that that's what it reminded me of. Okay,

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Speaker 8: if you're going to scrap.

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Speaker 4: Let's go left. And then uh, Larry Allen was his face.

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Speaker 5: Because those guys, you know that they delivered.

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Speaker 8: It was the offensive attitude like Hailey on defense, because

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Speaker 6: Off the field has a lot to every Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: And some of these guys don't have a mean rep

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Speaker 6: But I think Guden, uh you know, I think Guiden

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was better on his feet and he

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Speaker 4: He didn't he didn't overspend like a lot. You know,

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Speaker 8: It's too many times it was like being over like this,

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Speaker 3: I almost don't want to judge him off of what

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Speaker 3: Those are all things that you could go back to

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Speaker 4: had to. I got a question for you guys about

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Speaker 4: the wide receives. I tried.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't spinning a narrative, Mickey when I was talking

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Speaker 3: about George Pickens, not in his targets. But this is

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Speaker 3: a game that I think that you come into saying

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you got to look his way all

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Speaker 8: the time. I don't think they purposely ignored him last week.

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Speaker 8: I think that's kind of the way it turned out.

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Speaker 8: Look if Ceedee Lamb catches three of those passes, you

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Speaker 8: ain't even asking that right.

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Speaker 4: Well, now, that's why he's just looking at me. And

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Speaker 4: I had.

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Speaker 5: But but but here's what happens in the media. Right.

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Speaker 8: He had to ask the answer the question yesterday first game, Oh,

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Speaker 8: did you not get enough targets?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 8: And to his credit, he answered the way he should

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Speaker 8: have answered it. It's like, I'm out there to play

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Speaker 8: the ball comes my way, and he basically said, well,

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Speaker 8: does pass interference count?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 8: I mean, that was a catch, that was a huge

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Speaker 8: that was a touchdown, right, and it set up a touchdown,

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Speaker 8: So I think we forget about those.

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Speaker 5: That's another stat.

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Speaker 8: That needs to be added somewhere in the quarterback gets

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Speaker 8: robbed the passing yards, the wide receiver gets yard robbed

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Speaker 8: of a catch, but.

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Speaker 4: The offense benefits.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, you know, and if you're a team guy,

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Speaker 8: then everything's fine. And basically that's how he answered the question.

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Speaker 8: But again right away, that had to be the first question.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, when you have a reputation that he

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Speaker 6: had coming from Pittsburgh. I brought it up before where

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Speaker 6: they were looking for him as the media and he's

522
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Speaker 6: in the weight room by himself, upset about whatever just happened,

523
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Speaker 6: and that happened a lot.

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Speaker 4: He was with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 6: That happened a lot in Pittsburgh towards the end of

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Speaker 6: the season because that's just the way it went. Plus

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Speaker 6: wide receivers being divas, so the media was obviously they're

528
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Speaker 6: looking for, you know, for something. I mean, we lost

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Speaker 6: the game. It was a good game, A lot of

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Speaker 6: drama went on. They were just going to add to

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Speaker 6: the drama. No big deal. He didn't bite, which is

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Speaker 6: a good thing. But I don't want to get I

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Speaker 6: don't want to give him that many opportunities to have

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Speaker 6: an attitude.

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure that this guy is happy.

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Speaker 6: Schottenheimer seems to be able to communicate with him up

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Speaker 6: until this point.

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking forward to any problems.

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Speaker 6: But I can't tell you when he caught that ball

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Speaker 6: on the sideline, that was a beautiful catch. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's got the he's got the hands that is perfect

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Speaker 6: for Dak's passes.

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Speaker 4: Becaux passes are not always you know, fired in there.

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Speaker 5: Got an incredible catch radius.

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Speaker 6: He does and just you saw it. It was like

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Speaker 6: and the guy was trying to hit, you know, and

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Speaker 6: he's got it. Those are the kind of wide receivers

548
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Speaker 6: that are going to give you the sure catch nothing.

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Speaker 4: On CD Lamb.

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Speaker 6: Of course, that guy's freaking amazing. I'm not even talking

551
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Speaker 6: about that, just talking about how this guy plays coming

552
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Speaker 6: in here, he's going to be a guy in this game.

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Speaker 6: We've got cornerbacks that you can take advantage of. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I can see him as going off when we need him,

555
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Speaker 6: because to me, in this game, God established a run

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Speaker 6: first before we do anything.

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Speaker 8: And if you saw the nature of the two guys

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Speaker 8: in training camp, like they would celebrate each other's doubt,

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Speaker 8: no doubt.

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Speaker 5: I mean way out of us way right.

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Speaker 8: I saw Ceedee Lamb run across the field to celebrate

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Speaker 8: with him in the end zone and vice versa.

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Speaker 4: We all learn, in fact, we all learned.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that as a team, we learn

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Speaker 6: we can't get along just being individuals, right, Yeah, I

566
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Speaker 6: know this. The Cowboys and everybody wants their start to

567
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Speaker 6: be higher than the other.

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Speaker 4: This team. They said, if.

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Speaker 6: You're going to go anywhere, you don't have enough talent

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Speaker 6: on this team to be individuals.

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Speaker 4: You got to come together as a group.

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Speaker 5: And somebody learned that lesson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that you just said a mouthful there, and

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Speaker 3: I think where you could take advantage of What George

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Speaker 3: Pickens's skill set is against the Giants is his yards

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Speaker 3: after catch. You talked about the fact that the Giants defense,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna pressure centric, so they're gonna be

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Speaker 3: sending guys up in Dak's face and so short things,

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Speaker 3: you know, any of those things.

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Speaker 4: But what he can do.

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Speaker 3: Once the ball is in his hands, he is one

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Speaker 3: of the league leaders in YAK since he's been in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 6: And I mean he's gotta be fifty to fifty balls

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Speaker 6: as well. He's gotta be Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 8: The head coach basically pointed out that if if they

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Speaker 8: want a man George.

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Speaker 5: Pickens, yeah, he's over.

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Speaker 4: He's over. That's what he says. Right, he's over. That's right.

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Speaker 4: We all need to understand this.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, if I'm the Giants, let's

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Speaker 6: just look at what the Giants are gonna do. We

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Speaker 6: know we can't stop them run past. We're gonna blitz

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Speaker 6: our asses off. They are going to blitz that coming

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Speaker 6: all day long. So you better be ready. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: they're gonna they're trying to They're gonna try and make

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Speaker 6: this game as chaotic as possible, and we as a

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Speaker 6: team accept for last week, have not shown to react well,

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Speaker 6: especially early in games, to a lot of pressure coming

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Speaker 6: at you, and because we don't have great communication at.

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Speaker 4: The beginning of game.

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Speaker 6: We've already ironed it out at times in the second half,

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Speaker 6: but you can't.

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Speaker 4: You don't have time for that.

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Speaker 8: Well, the other thing happened opposite of that in that game,

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Speaker 8: because they scored on their first four possessions if you

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Speaker 8: think about, and then shut it down the second half.

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Speaker 8: But they didn't shut it down until they lost the

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Speaker 8: fumble at the eleven yard. Like Schottenheimer, I think it

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Speaker 8: was after the game he tried to explain what the

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Speaker 8: coverage was and that they were doing sort of a

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Speaker 8: cloud on pickings, and for some reason they thought of

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Speaker 8: Dori Jackson's going to take on CD Lamb.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: Man, that's the gamble that every team's going to have

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Speaker 3: to gamble that way though, and everybody what happened, I'm

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Speaker 3: I got.

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Speaker 5: This corner is gonna take out CD Lamb. Oh, good

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Speaker 5: luck with them.

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Speaker 6: You saw what happened. Yeah, I know, the bench, he

622
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Speaker 6: ended up on the bench. Then they bought in another guy.

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Speaker 5: They brought somebody else, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And once again they were not effective on CD.

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Speaker 3: CD just had it himselves, so media storm all week

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Speaker 3: for CD LAMB and the drops. This is a game

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Speaker 3: where you feel like obviously establishing the run being number one,

628
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Speaker 3: but number two him for himself feeling better this game.

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Speaker 3: What do you I mean for him going through it

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Speaker 3: but also coming in here on his off day at

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Speaker 3: the drugs machine all of that. This has to be

632
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Speaker 3: a game for number eighty eight where he has to

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Speaker 3: come in and get some catches to feel better.

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Speaker 4: And he will.

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Speaker 8: You know what the other offshoot was when you're worrying

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Speaker 8: about those two guys the tight end down the middle.

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Speaker 8: Now Dak missed once he was short. Fergie in the

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Speaker 8: end zone had one, and then I think there was

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Speaker 8: another one that the linebacker dropped far enough to cover Ferguson.

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Speaker 5: But that guy.

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Speaker 8: It's like, you can't zone everybody, right, you can't man everybody,

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Speaker 8: and if you're gonna worry about those guys on the outside.

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Speaker 8: And they really didn't exploit it that much with Cavante Turpin,

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Speaker 8: but in training camp that was one of the things.

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Speaker 8: He was catching the ball ten fifteen yards down the field,

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Speaker 8: not just junk passes, So that's another thing.

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Speaker 4: This would be a good game to not just try

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you gotta block it up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah you got. You have to run the play. Let's

651
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Speaker 6: be successful in running the play. Let's not just try

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Speaker 6: anything just to fool them. Let's make every play able

653
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Speaker 6: to break if you can. I mean, that's why we

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Speaker 6: have exciting players on this team, not so we can

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Speaker 6: just get ten fifteen yards. Sometimes somebody make a mistake,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna break. Because it broke on us more than

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Speaker 6: a few times last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, teams are gonna have to pick their poison. With

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys wide receivers, Jake Ferguson six targets, five catches,

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Speaker 3: just twenty three yards. And so obviously you got to

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Speaker 3: be a lot bigger with your third wide receiver because

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Speaker 3: of the hey it will. And again I think this

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Speaker 3: from last season coming into this one, this is one

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Speaker 3: of these games where you've got to feel like more

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Speaker 3: confidence in your third wide receiver receiver, whether it's Ferguson

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Speaker 3: I didn't like the oral and I didn't like what

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Speaker 6: The only thing that makes me feel better about that

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Speaker 5: But you know, but he cared after the game too.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how they're going to play their secondary,

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Speaker 4: about Dak Mickey, was there any footing on the Jadavian

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Speaker 4: Clowney signing?

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Speaker 8: Well, the defensive coordinators said, the past rushers are hard

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Speaker 8: to find, but will look at that and nothing new

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Speaker 8: on Clowney. So my intel from yesterday, you know he

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Speaker 8: stayed here after the visit.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they had to.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they worked him out.

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Speaker 8: Uh, it sounded like they were going to sign him,

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Speaker 8: and then he watched practice and left without a contract.

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Speaker 8: So Iberfu said, nothing new on it. My guess is

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Speaker 8: he wanted more money than they were offering.

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Speaker 6: Come on now, he heard about the yeah, and he

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Speaker 6: tried to come in here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you for saying I made a

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Speaker 3: rookie mistake. Man Bill Jones is here. Came back from

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Speaker 3: break after the read addressed it.

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Speaker 12: And going to Clown because that's because the star of

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Speaker 12: the show, Mickey Spagnola, and the break said I need

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Speaker 12: to say something about Clown.

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Speaker 5: I hid. Yeah, Well he was here.

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Speaker 4: He's big.

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Speaker 8: When I told you, when I told you, when I

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Speaker 8: told you, I think I walked by him.

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Speaker 5: I saw this big guy and the blouse.

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Speaker 8: The blousey blousy, I said, BLOUSI sweatshirt and it was him.

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Speaker 5: And uh, he watched practice.

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Speaker 8: He was up there with Josh Brent and you know

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Speaker 8: they were watching from the upper deck there above the

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Speaker 8: weight room, and it sounded like they were going to

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Speaker 8: sign him, and then he left.

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Speaker 5: So but again he might have been spoiled last.

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Speaker 8: Year by Carolina signing him to a two year, twenty

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Speaker 8: million dollars deal with twelve million guarantees.

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Speaker 5: That ain't happening here.

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Speaker 3: Now, nobody's going to let him. Burnie made off like that.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to get that deal here.

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Speaker 8: So they I mean, if you turn them away, if

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Speaker 8: you walked in here with ten sacks, now.

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Speaker 6: That's a different but not well his day the Eagles

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Speaker 6: that his name. If I'm a player and I walk

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Speaker 6: in here to the.

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Speaker 5: Star, yeah, yeah, you think you're big time.

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Speaker 6: Come on, man, you want to be big time, but

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Speaker 6: then you don't pay me big time?

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Speaker 4: Right, that's gonna be my name. They took him to

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Speaker 4: the Cowboy Club. Well the Cowboy Club was like, oh man.

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Speaker 8: But see the year before the year before when he

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Speaker 8: was in Baltimore, they paid him like the Cowboys paid

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Speaker 8: Givante Williams, like three and a half million or something

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Speaker 8: like that. And then Carolina goes in. It's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 8: this was clowney. We're going to sign him and and

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Speaker 8: they they gave him a big signing bonus and then

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Speaker 8: they said, wow, we needed salary cap money, so we're

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Speaker 8: going to save seven point eight million. But they ended

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Speaker 8: up with six million dead because of the guarantees they gave.

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Speaker 5: Them, guaranteed them twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 12: So he was when we went to Baltimore, he was

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Speaker 12: going he was chasing a ring. Yeah, he went to Carolina,

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Speaker 12: he wasn't chasing.

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Speaker 5: Well, chasing the ring. He ended up with nine and eight.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't back ring at Carolina.

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Speaker 8: Funny guy, and he probably played with better guys on

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Speaker 8: the defensive front in.

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Speaker 5: Baltimore, hence the nine and a half which helps him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, that's well, I'm gonna give you the

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Speaker 3: cliff notes to the show, catch you up on what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 4: So basically, not just me, but others would make joint. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: So here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about the New York Giants defense, all right,

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Speaker 3: talking about that the strength being their front seven and

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Speaker 3: how they gave up two hundred yards. We need Williams

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Speaker 3: to double that effort and not rely on Dak's legs

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Speaker 3: for anything. We also talked about our guy George Pickings

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Speaker 3: and targeting him more, but also the bounce back game

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Speaker 3: for CD after if you call this a bounce back

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Speaker 3: so now you are caught up to speed.

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Speaker 12: And the cornerback position and in the corner there you

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Speaker 12: go and uh and you have updated on what I

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Speaker 12: reflu said about the cornerback possess. Okay, one thing, when

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Speaker 12: I was looking at the Giants last night, have have

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Speaker 12: you got their injury report?

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Speaker 4: What does it like to do?

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Speaker 12: What does it say about Michael McFadden.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that was the other thing I was going to

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Speaker 5: bring up. He did not practice and they're.

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Speaker 12: We're seeing an interview with his replacement, Darius Muis.

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Speaker 4: How is it moois ou?

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Speaker 12: Well, I'm going I'm going with that. Okay, Well, it

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Speaker 12: could be it could be different than that. Go with

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Speaker 12: Darius number fifty three, Yes, okay. And it's actually if

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Speaker 12: you go look at that game, McFadden got hurt and

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Speaker 12: then the next play or maybe in the second play,

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Speaker 12: fifty three came in and right it snap, it was

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Speaker 12: like Kingsbury, he knew it. He We're going to take

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Speaker 12: advantage of this linebacker just came in the game. They're

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Speaker 12: down in the red zone and they've set the formation

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Speaker 12: right and at the snap, fifty three doesn't even know

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Speaker 12: who he's got and so but who he had was

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Speaker 12: zach Ertz. And Ertz ran a little out and in

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Speaker 12: and touchdown Washington.

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Speaker 8: Which, by the way, they I read a story where

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Speaker 8: McFadden is out he needs footserver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what that's in.

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Speaker 12: Listening to Darius Muissole's interview yesterday, it sounded like he

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Speaker 12: was they were hoping that he would come back late

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Speaker 12: in the season. But anyway, there's potentially now now he

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Speaker 12: made seven starts last year, fifty three did. But and

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Speaker 12: it just may just be one play where he got

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Speaker 12: thrown into the mix and he's confused, and they've got

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Speaker 12: a full week to prepare, but they're down a linebacker,

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Speaker 12: and so there's some something that were publishment will take

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Speaker 12: advantage of a guy with he's a second year player.

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Speaker 4: Out of UCLA. What did you think about this subject,

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Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury play calling, Well.

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Speaker 12: I mean I was focused more in on the Giants

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Speaker 12: just watching the game last night. I mean, I've you know,

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Speaker 12: I've always thought that at the NFL, his you know,

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Speaker 12: that's his strength, his strength was not being a head

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Speaker 12: coach because he's not great as far as he's in

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Speaker 12: some ways, he's socially awkward and you know, and Uh.

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Speaker 12: In fact, I was yesterday was talking to a guy

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Speaker 12: who coached with him who said that the very same thing.

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Speaker 6: And but as far as he's in his head a lot, yeah,

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Speaker 6: kind of like Lanzard, you know, Yeah, my guys there

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Speaker 6: in their heads a lot.

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Speaker 4: Exactly right.

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Speaker 12: And but as far as drawing up plays and everything, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was in it. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: in his bag and and you know, like he was,

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Speaker 3: he was dowling it up. And when we were talking

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Speaker 3: about the play that Deebo, the nineteen yard run from Deebo,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was eerily familiar to what we see

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Speaker 3: with Shotty. And so as a play caller, the ability

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Speaker 3: to mix things up, I kind of see them one A,

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Speaker 3: one B in that regard. So the play calling for me,

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Speaker 3: I think versus this Giants defense has to be spot on.

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Speaker 3: And we talked about the balance with the running game.

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Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out this great Giants defense

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Speaker 3: giving up two hundred and twenty yards rushing.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, is that just you know, first.

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Speaker 3: Week of the season blues for these guys or was

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Speaker 3: it just the scheme that beat them well?

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Speaker 12: And then these edge rushers, I mean, how well do

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Speaker 6: Do after a lot of crevice is open for Daniels,

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Speaker 6: just like we did for Jalen Well.

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Speaker 12: And they had the rookie second pick in the draft,

885
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 12: Abdul Carter. They were moving him around and I mean

886
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 12: he was lining up as an inside linebacker at times,

887
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 12: getting all three of the guys on the field at

888
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 12: the same time. Well, when he lines up an inside linebacker,

889
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 12: let's run the football. See see how you can defend

890
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 12: the run.

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00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 8: Well, the Giants people are sitting there talking about, well,

892
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 8: you know, Philadelphia ran for one hundred and fifty eight

893
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 8: yards on this defense.

894
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Speaker 5: We're going to run the ball.

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Speaker 8: But take into count the most quarter leading rusher was

896
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 8: the quarterback, and the leading rusher for Washington was the quarterback.

897
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Speaker 6: And see the Hegema brought up something that was done

898
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 6: in the game against the Redskins. As a defense, you

899
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 6: have to know what your offense is trying to do.

900
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 6: You have to know what the opposing offense is trying

901
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 6: to do, so you won't be so confused.

902
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: We seen confused defensively.

903
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 6: All last year as if we had no practice, I

904
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: had no idea what was going on. It wasn't just

905
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 6: that we were being outplayed, we were being out thought.

906
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 4: As a defense.

907
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 6: When you have a defense that's inline and knows what's

908
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: going on on the other side, anticipation is the key.

909
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 4: Look at you look at the setup. You know what

910
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: they're trying to do.

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00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 6: You know what kind of defense they have, and as

912
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Speaker 6: a unit, yes, you understand what they're trying to do.

913
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 6: Is there so many times where you see a defense

914
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 6: they recognize the formation. Everybody's going around, looking around, waving

915
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 6: their hands. This is what we're talking about, and the

916
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 6: play gets stuffed. We don't have that here yet. That's

917
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 6: something that we can do as a group. We can

918
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: do that as a group. I talked about we don't

919
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 6: have the great individuals, but as a group, when you

920
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 6: come together as a group, not only do you have

921
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 6: better stop plays defended, you have.

922
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Speaker 4: Fewer players getting hurt.

923
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 6: When you see a player get hurt, most of the time,

924
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: it's because that player is in an unfamiliar position, he's

925
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 6: out of position.

926
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Speaker 4: It's something's going on.

927
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 6: So now you forget about your body language and all

928
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 6: of that next thing, you know, you twist your knee

929
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 6: just after the play is over, something trivial like that.

930
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: These are the kind of things happened to the Cowboys

931
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Speaker 4: a lot last year.

932
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Speaker 6: That does not happen to good defenses that are coached well.

933
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Speaker 6: I didn't see that happen last week. Even though we

934
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 6: gave up some yards to say, Kwan, we could have

935
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Speaker 6: given up more. We all came to the game, we

936
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 6: all came to the ball. That's the kind of things

937
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Speaker 6: we're going to have to continue all year long if

938
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Speaker 6: we want to be content in this NFC East.

939
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Speaker 8: Because if I told you before the game, say chron

940
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 8: was going to get sixty yards.

941
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Speaker 4: We talked about we'll take it, Yeah, we'll take.

942
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Speaker 12: It three and a half yards of carry, yeah yeah.

943
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Speaker 4: And it worked for us.

944
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Speaker 6: What didn't work for us was a smart ass quarterback

945
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: who knows what we're trying. Once again, he knows what

946
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 6: we're trying to do. Well was successful and he said,

947
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 6: you know what, I can count it that myself. Y'all

948
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Speaker 6: go ahead and keep doing what you're doing. I'm going

949
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 6: to scramble for this touch.

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Speaker 8: That's what Jerry Daniels did last week, right the Giants.

951
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: So Dak Prescott twenty nine. That's okay, Dak Prescott twenty

952
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: nine touchdowns versus the Giants. How many does he end

953
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: this game with?

954
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Speaker 4: Guys? Round table? Two? Three?

955
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Speaker 12: The first number that came to mind for me was three,

956
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Speaker 12: So I go with three.

957
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Speaker 4: So he finishes with thirty two touchdowns versus the Giants.

958
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Speaker 4: Well eight, how many times have we beaten them? Eight

959
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: in a row?

960
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Speaker 5: But he's thirty thirteen in a row.

961
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Speaker 8: And you know when he lost his rookie year, he

962
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Speaker 8: lost twenty one twenty and ten to seven twenty one

963
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Speaker 8: twenty was the first game of the season, and then

964
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Speaker 8: later in the year ten to seven, and he mean

965
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Speaker 8: what just him and the one game and the one

966
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Speaker 8: game the Giants won that like the Cowboys have won

967
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Speaker 8: fifteen of sixteen.

968
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Speaker 5: The one they lost won.

969
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Speaker 8: Was was Andy Dalton at quarterback the last game of

970
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Speaker 8: the twenty twenty season.

971
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Speaker 5: But Andy Dalton won one name for Dack when he

972
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 5: got hurt. That's right, he lost. No, he won the

973
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Speaker 5: first meeting and then just when they got.

974
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Speaker 3: Hurt in yeah, Bill, thank you for missing today, miss

975
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Speaker 3: any time.

976
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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think you.

977
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Speaker 12: Have to wear what I said that because I was

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Speaker 12: just telling my daughter, Yes, your day of the story

979
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Speaker 12: of Wally Pip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't worry about it. I think I think you're

981
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Speaker 3: good around here.

982
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Speaker 4: Send us somebody, are you, Wally?

983
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Speaker 12: We got all our picks Tomorrow.

984
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Speaker 5: We need another segment.

985
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Speaker 6: You're not taking another.

986
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Speaker 12: All right, So let's fight song Friday tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Here on Mixed Shots, Oh Cowboys.

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