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Speaker 3: Welcome. In episode one fifty nine, What's Right with Nick Wright?

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Speaker 3: We have a new NBA champion for the first time

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Speaker 3: in the history of their franchise. The Denver Nuggets are champions.

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Speaker 3: Right as I say that, my monitor goes out. I

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Speaker 3: assume we're still on the air. You guys will tell me.

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Speaker 3: If not, maybe this is the basketball gods trying to

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Speaker 3: we have a ton to do today. As you may

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Speaker 3: see myself again. My daughter Diora, my co host for

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Speaker 3: just short. Once again. We will discuss all of that,

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Speaker 3: But here's what missed the cup for today's show. DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Jordan winning a ring before Chris Paul. You know, I

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Speaker 3: didn't even think about that, but that is true. Is

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Speaker 3: a trade demand. If it's not a trade demand, it's

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Speaker 3: a laughably incorrect tweet. But let's get to the actual

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Speaker 3: game now. The producers wrote today's show out as if

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Speaker 3: I were going to have a co host to poke

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Speaker 3: congratulations to Daniel, producer, Daniel, his team won. More on

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Speaker 3: You have the third greatest player ever, plus another no

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Speaker 3: doubt Hall of famer could be the best player on

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Speaker 3: a really good team, as he proved not a champion,

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Speaker 3: but a really good team the very next year in

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Speaker 3: Scottie Pippen. And then for the last three championships you

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Speaker 3: added another no doubt Hall of famer and Dennis Robmin,

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Speaker 3: who for the first two of those three championship was

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Speaker 3: a great player and maybe the greatest coach ever. Shaq

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Speaker 3: and Kobe's dynasty. You had Shaq and Kobe. Duncan's a

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Speaker 3: weird one because it was it was a great run,

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Speaker 3: but not necessarily a specific dynasty. With the first championship

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: you had David Robinson that was still really good. Second

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00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: championship kind of Duncan on his own, and then the

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Speaker 3: next two you have Man who and Tony who are

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00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: great players. Is your second best guy not really good

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Speaker 3: enough to be the second best guy on most champions

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: but your third best guy way better than most other teams.

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Speaker 3: Third best guy plus the coach. And then the last one.

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Speaker 3: Seven years after the fourth you add Kawhi Leonard to

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Speaker 3: that young Kawhi Leonard, but still Kawhi Leonard. The Heat

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Speaker 3: didn't really have a dynasty. They went to four championship.

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Speaker 3: Do you have lebron and wait, and of course Chris

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Speaker 3: Bosh is your third guy. Dynasty can't be throwing around

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Speaker 3: dynasty that easily, guys. So I'd pump the brakes on that,

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Speaker 3: but I would set if you set the over under

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Speaker 3: on Joker career titles at one and a half, at

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Speaker 3: this point, I would take the over. I think he

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Speaker 3: gets one more. The other thing that hurts him in

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Speaker 3: that regard is the late blooming, which was similar to

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Speaker 3: Yannis like not amazing players right when they came in

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: the league. They had to grow. But that right there

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Speaker 3: is the most interesting and exciting to me NBA story

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Speaker 3: of the next half decade. Joker and Yannis, a fight

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Speaker 3: to be the apex predator of the league. Joker and Yannis.

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Speaker 3: They both have two MVPs, they both have one title,

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Speaker 3: they both have one all time playoff run. They both

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Speaker 3: have one finals MVP. Jokers twenty eight, Yannis is twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Two twenty eight year olds in their prime. Go get it.

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Speaker 3: That should be the rivalry of the next half decade.

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Speaker 3: And then we see, you know, can Booker and Durant

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Speaker 3: put a run together over the next couple of years?

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Speaker 3: Can Luca get the right people around him? Does lebron

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Speaker 3: an ad have one more run in them? That's out

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Speaker 3: west and out east? Will Embiede ever have a run

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Speaker 3: like this? So not looking like it. Can't close the

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Speaker 3: door on it, though Tatum and Brown did. They kind

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Speaker 3: of reach their ceiling. So and then there is the

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Speaker 3: looming cloud of what will Victor Windbinyama actually be. So

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Speaker 3: I'll fade the dynasty, but I'll buy another championship, all right,

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Speaker 3: last one before we take a break, Nick, you left, yo,

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Speaker 3: get you off your top fifty all time. That didn't

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Speaker 3: age well. Where does he rank now? All right? When

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Speaker 3: I did the fifty best of the last fifty years,

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Speaker 3: Joker had won one league MVP ever, Okay had one

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Speaker 3: playoff run to the conference finals. That was it. It

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00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: was totally legitimate at the time to not have him

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Speaker 3: in the top fifty. Now where would he slot in?

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Speaker 3: So let's look at my top twenty five? I mean,

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Speaker 3: so number twenty eight. I know I said twenty five,

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Speaker 3: number twenty eight to Centa, though Patrick Ewing Joker obviously

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Speaker 3: is ahead of him. I just want to check Jokers.

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Speaker 3: So Joker's got three first team All NBAS, two second

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Speaker 3: team All NBAS, obviously a two time MVP. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: have to try to keep this in my head. He's

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Speaker 3: a two time MVP and how many I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to look up the things that I wait a lot.

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Speaker 3: And he's got two other top five MVP finishes. He

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Speaker 3: has a fourth and twenty nineteen and obviously a second

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Speaker 3: this year. All right, So three first teams, two second teams,

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Speaker 3: two MVPs, a finals MVP, and two other MVP top fives. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so number twenty five in the last fifty years I

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Speaker 3: had Harden. He's obviously ahead of Harden. Number twenty four

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Speaker 3: I had stocked in Stockton, had's two first teams, six

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Speaker 3: second teams, zero top five MVP finishes, but his all

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Speaker 3: time counting stats are bananas. He's obviously had a Stockton.

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Speaker 3: Number twenty three of the last fifty years I had

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Speaker 3: David Robinson. He has four first teams, two second teams,

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Speaker 3: one League MVP, two seconds and two thirds, and a

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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. He obviously also has two titles,

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00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 3: one of which he was really good on. I think

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Speaker 3: he's better than David Robinson. Number twenty two is Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 3: Four first teams, three second teams, one MVP, two seconds,

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Speaker 3: five top five finishes. I think he's better than Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 3: Garnett we don't talk about it much, but Garnett had

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00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: some real playoff struggles, and it wasn't justin Minnesota. He

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00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: was not a guy you could give the ball to

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Speaker 3: and just you knew he was gonna come. Three great

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Speaker 3: defensive player all time defensive player Number twenty one's Chris Paul.

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Speaker 3: He's now better than Chris Paul. It just is. That's

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Speaker 3: what a championship does for you. Number twenty was a projection.

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Speaker 3: If you remember I had Luca, you got to obviously

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Speaker 3: have him ahead of Luca. Number nineteen I had was

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Speaker 3: d w eight. I do not think he's better than

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Speaker 3: d Waight yet, So right now, he would be for

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Speaker 3: me the twentieth best of the last fifty years. And

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Speaker 3: how many guys in all of NBA history would that leave? Obviously, Will,

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Speaker 3: Russell and West would be the three super old timers

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Speaker 3: I'd have ahead of him. I'd have him ahead of

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Speaker 3: Oscar an Elgin and Mike and Impetitor. Just too hard.

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Speaker 3: It's just too hard. You got to give credit for

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Speaker 3: what they did, but come on. So that's where it

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Speaker 3: would be for me. He would be the twentieth best

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Speaker 3: of the last fifty years. The guys still to catch

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Speaker 3: would be d Wade, Berkley, Karl Malone, and Karl Malone's

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00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: a very unique one because his regular season resume is

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Speaker 3: that of a top four player of all time and

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Speaker 3: his postseason resume is not great. Two finals appearances. Is

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Speaker 3: the best player but didn't really come through huge. But

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Speaker 3: he also was a two time MVP, nine Top fives,

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Speaker 3: eleven time first team all NBA third most points of

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Speaker 3: all time. I have Dirk still out of him. Dirk,

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00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: oddly is very underrated by some people. I don't quite

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Speaker 3: get it Isaiah Thomas, who is wildly underrated by people,

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00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: but they're just wrong. I just won't even engage them

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Speaker 3: on it. And then Giannis, Durant, Moses, Doctor j Steph Shack,

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Speaker 3: dream Bird, and we're getting a really hollowed ground. So

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Speaker 3: my guess is Joker ends up somewhere in that top

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Speaker 3: five fifteen of the last fifty and with a chance

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Speaker 3: to crack the top twelve. The problem there is for

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Speaker 3: any of these guys is Durant is still playing. He

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00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: could climb, even though it's not likely. And Giannis is

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Speaker 3: still playing, and I think he will climb. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be very interesting to see who climbs higher, Joker or Yannis.

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Speaker 3: But that's where we are, and that's what a championship

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Speaker 3: does for you. So here's what we're gonna do. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna take a very quick break, We're gonna come back.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do a lightening round B block, and

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Speaker 3: then I will try to spend some real time on

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Speaker 3: your guys questions before I go to TV Today. But

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Speaker 3: that was a forty minute, forty five minute opening segment

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Speaker 3: paying tribute because we now have It's always exciting when

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Speaker 3: the All Time Greats Club. Oh you know what, let's

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Speaker 3: just stay here for a second. That's a fun exercise,

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Speaker 3: the All Time Greats Club, when guys got admitted. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I should do this on TV Today, Dusty, if you're

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Speaker 3: watching from the first thing's first studio, text the show,

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Speaker 3: but also like jot this down like all Time Greats

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Speaker 3: date of admittance. I that's not Dusty texting me. I

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Speaker 3: wish it were, though hopefully he's watching. So Nikola Jokic

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Speaker 3: guy in the club in twenty twenty three. He is

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Speaker 3: the latest guy in there, the most recent guy. I

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Speaker 3: should say. No one was admitted last year. Jannis got in.

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00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, no one was admitted. Kawhi looked

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Speaker 3: like he was getting in, but no one got in

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. In twenty seventeen, Kevin Durant got in.

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Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, Steph Curry got in and twenty twelve,

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Speaker 3: Lebron James got in. In twenty eleven, Dirk got in.

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and three, Duncan got in. In two

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Speaker 3: thousand and one, Shaq and Kobe both got in, and

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Speaker 3: that's it. Those are the only guys all time. Oh

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Speaker 3: you know what I in twenty eleven, their twenty twelve

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Speaker 3: pardon me, it was Lebron and d Wade who got in.

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Speaker 3: D Wade already had a ring, but he wasn't to

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Speaker 3: that level yet. They both got in there, and that's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of the last twenty years, those are the

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Speaker 3: all time greats. And when they got in, Joker welcome

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Speaker 3: to the club man. Pretty special stuff and he's in there. Congrats,

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Speaker 3: And you know, we've crowned a new champion. We I

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Speaker 3: of holding out for the season. It's not really holding out,

636
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Speaker 3: just refusing to sign the tag. Here's my advice for

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Speaker 3: the Giants right now, he's tagged one year, just under

638
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: eleven million bucks. He doesn't want to play on that.

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00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: The Giants don't want to commit big money to a

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Speaker 3: running back. I get it. He has said he doesn't

641
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: need to reset the marketplace. What if you go to

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00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: him with a contract offer of three years forty five

643
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Speaker 3: million dollars. I sat on TV yesterday twenty million guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: Let's up that to twenty two and a half million.

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Speaker 3: Pardon me, twenty two and a half million guaranteed. So

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Speaker 3: you tell Saquon listen, here's the deal. You will be

647
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Speaker 3: paid like a top three running back. We will more

648
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Speaker 3: than double the guaranteed money that you had on the

649
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Speaker 3: franchise tag. It's fifteen million a year each to the

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Speaker 3: next three and if something terrible happens this year, you

651
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Speaker 3: still get all of this year's money and half of

652
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Speaker 3: next year's money. If you're awesome this year, then you're

653
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: gonna get all of this year's money and all of

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Speaker 3: next year's money, and if you're awesome the next two years,

655
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Speaker 3: you're gonna get the full forty five million. If you're

656
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: the Giants in a Vacuum or on Madden. I understand

657
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 3: why committing even that type of money to a running back,

658
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Speaker 3: especially you're a running back who's had some injury concerns,

659
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: does not typically make sense. But this is where the

660
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: human being component has to matter. You are trying to

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Speaker 3: build on the momentum of last season and build a

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Speaker 3: new culture in that organization. Saquan is the most popular

663
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: and the most talented player in that locker room. It

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Speaker 3: has massive negative downstream effects if you alienate him. So,

665
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Speaker 3: just like guys end up having to take a haircut

666
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Speaker 3: because teams don't want to deal with them in the

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Speaker 3: locker room. Great guys and great leaders, you gotta pay

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Speaker 3: a premium for Saquan. Is that that's what I would do? Uh?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Time? For a game this or that Aaron Gordon was

671
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Speaker 3: kicked in the groin, but got called for a shooting

672
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Speaker 3: fellow Jimmy Butler. The NBA is rigged or fair? All right?

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Speaker 3: With the NBA is obviously not rigged. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's fair or what's not. But here's what I do know.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely thought that call was going to stand. I

676
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Speaker 3: like Van Gundy and Jackson. I know Demons disagreed with

677
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Speaker 3: me on it, and we can show his tweet if

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Speaker 3: we want, uh. The Daniel tweeted Demonse waiting for Demonze

679
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: to tweet where he says the reps are making about themselves,

680
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: and Demonte said that would be giving them the attention

681
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: they are seeking. I won't do it. Well done, Son.

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: Here's the thing Jimmy did not do on that play

683
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: a wild kicking motion. His leg did extend, but it

684
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: was at least semi reasonable, and Gordon ran through him.

685
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: Now do I think that's a foul? No? Do I

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Speaker 3: think it is close enough to being a foul that

687
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 3: once they call it a foul on the floor, they're

688
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: not going to overturn it exactly. So I wasn't shocked

689
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: by that. I also don't think it was a bad challenge.

690
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 3: It was late enough in the game and a critical

691
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: enough moment it's worth the risk. But I did not

692
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: think it was a clear cut, obvious this is getting overturned.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't Next the rumors are swirling that if

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Speaker 3: Houston misses out on hard and they could be interested

695
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: in Kyrie, this would be a bad idea or the

696
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 3: worst idea. It makes no sense. Kyrie to Houston. I

697
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: have talked about, and I think other people have as well,

698
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: that an interesting possible free agent destination for Chris Paul

699
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: if he is released is san Antonio. Like, try to

700
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Speaker 3: build a winning culture instantly for Wimbin Yama and get him,

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: you know, a player who's gonna set him up and

702
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: all that stuff. That's just like Kyrie to Houston, except

703
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: the exact opposite. You have all these young, impressionable players.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't if I were the Rockets. I honestly, I

705
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: don't know if there's a player in the league that

706
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: I'd be less interested in than Kyrie. And they can't

707
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: win with or without him next year. Aaron Rodgers got

708
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: the last six weeks and most fun he's had in

709
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: a while. He's been on good behavior for speciously long time.

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Speaker 3: Rogers will get through the offseason without an incident or

711
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Speaker 3: with an incident. I think without an incident. Not only

712
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Rogers has a lot of major incidents. I just think

713
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: he's a pain in the ass, but I think you'll

714
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Speaker 3: get through it without an incident. Novak Djokovic when I

715
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Speaker 3: was twenty third Grand Slam with the friend Joping this weekend,

716
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Speaker 3: the best Serbian athlete right now is Djokovic or Joker.

717
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Speaker 3: The best right now is Jovich. The best of all

718
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Speaker 3: time is Djokovic, as he now is the most Grand

719
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Speaker 3: slams ever, and some people would argue he is the

720
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Speaker 3: greatest tennis player of all time. I probably unfairly have

721
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Speaker 3: him as the third best. I know that's not fair.

722
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: I know I can't really fully justify it. I just

723
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Speaker 3: like nadolmore and I still think Federer is the best

724
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Speaker 3: I've ever seen. Uh. Also, I was on all cores

725
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: and I was very upset after his visit to Tennessee

726
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Speaker 3: when great DeAndre Hopkins is gonna be heading to the

727
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Speaker 3: Patriots better fit Titans are Patriots neither, But if you

728
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: got to pick one, go with the Titans. But the

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Speaker 3: answer is neither. And lastly, I was Nick, you were

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Speaker 3: so close to winning the Belmont Stakes along with your

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Speaker 3: daughter Diana and her best friend Carras. Forte screwed me,

732
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Speaker 3: though I basically made a bet that I would have

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Speaker 3: won the Exacta, the Trifecta, and the Superfecta. All I needed.

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Speaker 3: What I here was I will admit it was not

735
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: the soundest gambling strategy ever, but here's what I did.

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Speaker 3: There were nine horses in the race. There were three

737
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Speaker 3: fifteen to one or longer shots. I eliminated those three,

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Speaker 3: and then there was the favorite, Forte. I eliminated him too,

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Speaker 3: And then I took horses two through six and put

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Speaker 3: them in everything and boxed them in everything. And so

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Speaker 3: what I needed was none of the long shots nor

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Speaker 3: Forte to finish in the top two, and I would

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Speaker 3: have won a little. If none of the long shots

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Speaker 3: nor Forte finished in the top three, I would have

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Speaker 3: won a lot. If none of the long shots nor

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Speaker 3: Forte finished in the top four, it would now be

747
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Speaker 3: called the What's Right Stakes. I think I would have

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Speaker 3: owned the track, and it was all looking good until

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Speaker 3: the stretch run when Forte came from fifth. Then he

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Speaker 3: got to fourth, and I'm like, okay. The Superfecta was

751
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Speaker 3: because my other horses were all there. My other horse

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Speaker 3: is finished first, third, fourth, fifth, sixth I think, or first, third,

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Speaker 3: fourth and fifth. But then Forte makes a really late

754
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Speaker 3: kick and I'm like, oh, the trifecta is dead, but

755
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit the exactes so I'm gonna be okay.

756
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Speaker 3: And then literally at the wire, Forte puts his damn

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Speaker 3: nose down and there is like all they put up

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Speaker 3: on the screen is that Arcangelo won the race and

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Speaker 3: then they say photo for second third And it took

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Speaker 3: like five minutes and fourt a one and so I lost.

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Speaker 3: The shame of it is and this is a true story.

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Speaker 3: This man who really looked like he knew something and

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Speaker 3: I should have just I'm so mad at myself. This

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Speaker 3: is such a terrible job by me. This man walks

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Speaker 3: up to me and I'm with my daughter and her

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Speaker 3: best friend, the nine year old and her best friend.

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Speaker 3: Before the race, says, Hi, shakes my hand, old, I

768
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Speaker 3: think he's Italian guy. He then comes back like twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes later with two twenty dollars tickets in his hand

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Speaker 3: and he said, like, pulls me in close. He's like,

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Speaker 3: Archangelo's got this. I bought a ticket for your two daughters.

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Speaker 3: He thought they were both my daughter's fine. I'm like yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's like yeah, he's seven to one. He's winning. And

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Speaker 3: somehow I didn't recognize that as the sign from the

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Speaker 3: gambling gods that it was that I should have just

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Speaker 3: put all my money on Arcangelo, who won the race easily.

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Speaker 3: And the only winners of that race were my two daughters,

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Speaker 3: or sorry, my daughter and our best friend, who both

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Speaker 3: had a twenty they're nine years old, had a twenty

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Speaker 3: dollars seven to one ticket. They got paid out. And

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Speaker 3: so the questionnaire is teaching Diana about the wars. Is

782
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Speaker 3: a good idea or the best idea? It's the best idea.

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Speaker 3: They had a wonderful time. They can't wait to go back.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in episode one fifty nine. What's right?

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Speaker 3: We think right? The Nuggets are champions. I answer your questions. Now,

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Speaker 3: Pat's nation Nick, Now that Nikola Jokicic has a title.

796
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Speaker 3: Outside of EMBIID, who do you think is the most

797
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Speaker 3: pressure to win a ring? So if we're talking about

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Speaker 3: guys who have never won one, Embiid's obviously at the top,

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Speaker 3: Harden is still very high. There will unfairly but sneakily

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Speaker 3: be some added pressure on Luca. I wonder if if Jimmy,

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Speaker 3: you know what, none of those are the right answer.

802
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 3: It's Tatum. He's been to a finals, he's been first

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Speaker 3: seam all NBA back to back years, been a top

804
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: five MVP guy. I think the ship has probably sailed

805
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: on hard and outside of EMBIID, I think it's Tatum next.

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Speaker 3: Mister Brownstone says Can Denver's offensive system point center supplant

807
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 3: the need for a second great player in your dynasty argument. No,

808
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Speaker 3: not I don't believe so not to be a dynasty,

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Speaker 3: because the other thing is teams in the West in

810
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Speaker 3: particular are going to adjust, and they're going to adjust

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Speaker 3: by just while there's been an emphasis on wings and

812
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 3: three and d guys, there is now if you are

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Speaker 3: a Western Conference team trying to win a title, you

814
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Speaker 3: are going to spend a couple roster spots on seven

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Speaker 3: footers just to spend thousand minutes up. So no, I

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Speaker 3: still think to be a dynasty, I still think you

817
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Speaker 3: need the second start. Jake Fisher says, do you think

818
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Speaker 3: the successive Giannis and Jovis will cause other teams to

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Speaker 3: be more patient with high upside young players? They should be. Now,

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01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: those guys are special all timers, but yes, they should be.

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Speaker 3: Vkc Asks or vic cs. Was this Jimmy's best chance?

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Speaker 3: What do you think pat Riley is cooking something up? Oddly?

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Speaker 3: I think last year might have been his best chance.

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Speaker 3: I think they could have beaten the Warriors, but they

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: didn't get there. As far as pat Riley cooking something up,

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Speaker 3: He's always cooking something up. I do wonder if that's

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Speaker 3: where Kyrie goes. I'm not saying that's where he goes,

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Speaker 3: but I wonder if that's on the board. Nathan Berger says,

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Speaker 3: thoughts on Christian Brown winning three high school state titles,

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Speaker 3: an NCAA title, and now the NBA Finals. I was

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Speaker 3: one of his high school teammates from Kansas. We'll shout

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Speaker 3: out to you, Nathan Berger, who you also it would

833
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Speaker 3: appear are a state champion. I think it's great, and

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Speaker 3: I do think he's a winning player. He's obviously never

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Speaker 3: gonna be a great player, but he's a winning player

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Speaker 3: and a hard nosed, tough player. I like him. Alex

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Speaker 3: asked at graduation, will do yours? Principal caller Diora, what's right? No,

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Speaker 3: it would have made me prouder than you could imagine,

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Speaker 3: but she opted against it. All right, fun show, I

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Speaker 3: gotta run, I gotta get to work. I'll see you,

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Speaker 3: by the way, No show Thursday. My daughter's graduating. I'll

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Speaker 3: see you guys on Tuesday. What's right,