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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're just opening for Beyonce

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Speaker 1: all week. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio with Patrick Clayband and Jordan rod Reeg. We're

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Speaker 1: talking every single AFC team today and uh maybe later

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll walk across the street and go to Sofi

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Speaker 1: Stadium for one of Beyonce's like six straight sold out shows. No,

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Speaker 1: you're getting out of here.

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Speaker 2: If if you're buying, Greg, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: You got a plus one or I can't afford that.

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Speaker 1: And also like it seems like there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure to the dress in country where it just seems

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Speaker 1: kinda you don't know what about.

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Speaker 3: I I do not even ironically.

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Speaker 1: I do like I do like Cowboy Carter. I do

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Speaker 3: Cowboy Carter, you know, I like, I mean to be fair.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I dislike anything she's ever made, so.

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Speaker 1: Versill take there. I always think when I see Blue Ivy,

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Speaker 1: her daughter up there, and she was up you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a clip of her dancing on this that she

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Speaker 1: was born just two months after my daughter, on the

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Speaker 1: same floor of the same hospital in New York. And

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Speaker 1: then I always imagine whatever Blue Ivy is doing, which

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Speaker 1: is always something like dancing in front of eighty thousand

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Speaker 1: people and be like, man, it'd be crazy if Ellis

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Speaker 1: was doing that. I don't think she could do that.

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Speaker 1: She could do she can do anything great things. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk all thirty two teams over a course of

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Speaker 1: two days. We already hit the NFC and now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do the AFC. Are you ready for this, Jordan?

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Speaker 4: I'm so ready. Don't I look ready? I'm I'm clearly

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Speaker 4: visually prepared.

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Speaker 1: Two and a half minutes on the clock for each

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Speaker 1: and every team. And we're gonna start in the South

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Speaker 1: again because the South has something to say. The AFC

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Speaker 1: South had a great weekend when it came to the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, And we'll go with the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. All get us going hadn't mentioned on the

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Speaker 1: show yet, but by the way that Tyler Lockett is

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Speaker 1: a Tennessee Titan and is projected to be a starter

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Speaker 1: because they don't really have many options there. I like

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Speaker 1: some of their later draft picks, like Eric a Humanoor

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Speaker 1: and then Shamari d k both fourth round picks, but guys,

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Speaker 1: in terms of a human or might have like a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an injury thing. They are a team,

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Speaker 1: and I saw Paul Kaharsky, who covers their team, kind

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Speaker 1: of make this point, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: good one. With the guys they took Kevin Winston coming

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Speaker 1: to have to develop without like the best weapons around them.

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Speaker 1: Their second round pick even alive DJO like guys who

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Speaker 1: are going to need to develop. This is a roster

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Speaker 1: and a coaching staff that is going to need some

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Speaker 1: patients and is going to need some time. And you

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Speaker 1: do wonder with their ownership group they have not showed

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Speaker 1: a lot of patients recently. Will they actually give Brian

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Speaker 1: Callahan a chance to grow into this job, because man,

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Speaker 1: just looking at the roster on on paper, it might

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Speaker 1: still be the worst team in the NFL. I know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't usually work out like that, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like Brian Callahan's got a tough job. Will this organization

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Speaker 1: be patient with him? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I hope so.

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Speaker 4: He seems certainly like he does actually have ownership's ear.

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Speaker 4: You kind of see this in some of the strategy

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Speaker 4: of deciding to move on from a quarterback of the

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Speaker 4: previous regime and Will Levice. Obviously, Kim Ward was the

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Speaker 4: obvious number one overall pick for many reasons, especially the

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Speaker 4: fact that the Tennessee Titans needed a quarterback. What you

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Speaker 4: said about patients, I really liked Greg because I thought

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Speaker 4: they approached this draft itself with that ethos in mind.

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Speaker 3: To me, they didn't reach a lot.

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Speaker 4: They didn't try to push the board further than their

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Speaker 3: It sort of fell to them.

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Speaker 4: And part of that is when you have so many needs,

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Speaker 4: you just have to be honest about who you are

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Speaker 5: I did when there was the idea from some folks

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Speaker 5: it was three games into the season and they were like, hey,

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Speaker 5: don't necessarily think that that was a reach and he

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Speaker 5: feel like there's been two consecutive quarterbacks, and I know

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Speaker 5: the Levis experiment went horribly wrong, but between Malie Willis

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Speaker 2: And hopefully cam Ward gets that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mentioned Kevin Winston. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: You have the Jacksonville Jaguars next, and.

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Speaker 5: I think we will look back on James Gladstone and

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Speaker 5: intangible the way that we look back at Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: think it is intangible with Travis Hunter because he didn't

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Speaker 5: do a lot of the combine the pre draft testing,

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Speaker 5: so we don't know. But Caleb Bransaw shout out to

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Speaker 5: the wave. Greg nine point seventy five Relative Athletics's next pick,

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Speaker 5: Wyatt mullum nine point one relative Athletics score be Shall

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Speaker 5: Tooton out of Virginia Tech nine point five relative athletics score.

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Speaker 5: The Jaggs said that they wanted to be fast and

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Speaker 5: get faster. They got a bunch of explosive guys that

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Speaker 5: I think are going to change the way that this

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Speaker 5: team looks and operates. But it all starts with making

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Speaker 5: the commitment to literally be bold and trade up for

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Speaker 5: a player that we have never seen before. And if

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Speaker 5: you're gonna, if you're gonna make a trade up for

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Speaker 5: a non quarterback, why not do it for somebody that

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Speaker 5: we have literally never seen and might not ever see

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm I'm on board, and then come out

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Speaker 4: and talk about it with your goddamn chest. And that

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Speaker 4: is what And you know what, Like I don't want

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Speaker 4: somebody running my team that does not believe in their

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Speaker 3: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: It is a process that in order to fully exercise

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Speaker 4: for years, you have to over communicate what the process

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Speaker 4: laughed at whatever, but like that is something that that's who,

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Speaker 4: that's who they are.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: This is they're telling you and they're showing you exactly

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Speaker 4: who they are on their picks. I like how they

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Speaker 4: they also worked there with Jake Temmy now as the

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Speaker 4: bespoke personality assessments that Jake helped create while in Los

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Speaker 4: to literally rebuilding a very young core underneath what was

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Speaker 1: I do worry a little bit. Can this coaching staff

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Speaker 1: all handle it? Everyone in new positions offense when in

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis still on this team. Just wanted to point

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Speaker 2: It was like Milton with the Stapler.

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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans. I also would say, everyone check out

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Speaker 1: that Mike Silver Jaguars piece, because they let it be

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Speaker 1: I was interested that the Denver Broncos pick Ashton Jillette,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Jordan. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I think everybody really expected Houston to hit their

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Speaker 4: on this offseason the two Iowa State receivers, they doubled

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Speaker 4: and they were also top character and talent cross sections. Again,

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Speaker 3: Tracks with what Demico Ryans is trying to do.

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Speaker 4: Greg you brought it up a few weeks ago with

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Speaker 4: Higgins and Noll reminded external draft analysts of Nico Collins

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Speaker 4: he also drew athletic and physical comps to Laramie Tunsel

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Speaker 3: Maybe perhaps in their.

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Speaker 4: Mind is building out some of these layers and distribution

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a not. They have

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Speaker 1: a lot of players on their offensive line, it's still

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Speaker 1: a mystery who's going to play where. I think they

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Speaker 1: absolutely would have taken Donovan Jackson if he got one

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Speaker 3: Later, but in Minnesota knew that and that's why they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was kind of the last offensive

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Speaker 1: so many wide receivers like, yeah, Braxon Barrios and Justin

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Speaker 1: Watson are watching this draft being like, oh, come on, guys,

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Speaker 3: Short term rental apartments.

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Speaker 5: When they took Higgins, my initial thought was that late

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Speaker 5: They wound up going with Stefan Diggs, and you know

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Damico Ryans just allowing a world where

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Speaker 1: they only had one defensive pick, which was Jalen Smith,

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Speaker 4: Right, they have Russian dolls at quarterback. Daniel the most

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Speaker 1: They also have a man and I bet he is

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Speaker 4: Regret, and Colleen Wolfe's most hopeful team every off season.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think there's there's reason to be hopeful.

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Speaker 5: include Daniel Jones playing football and twenty twenty five, if

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Speaker 1: To me, let's go to the East and let's talk

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Speaker 5: Peltrick Buffalo Bills, who also got some of that speed,

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Speaker 5: So Jeremy Wright of WGR was gonna have the Bills

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Speaker 5: taping a segment before mentioned little help a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Bean gets on the phone and he is incensed. Guys,

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Speaker 5: we actually have this.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: Well, you guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: You guys wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are

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Speaker 6: like we just go hold on, let me talk. We

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Speaker 6: we didn't have receivers. But I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: You just saw us lead the league in points. When

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Speaker 6: you just saw us do it without Stefan Diggs saying group,

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Speaker 6: how is this group not better than last year's group? Like,

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Speaker 6: We did that, So I get it. You got to

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Speaker 6: if you I wish you'd listened to the two hours

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that is WGR five five fifty sports radio audacity.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to bring Brandon Bean energy. You know

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Speaker 1: to let him talk and he was like, hold on,

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Speaker 5: You know, he could dial back the gendered insults a touch,

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Speaker 5: But I think right when Jeremy did get a chance

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Speaker 5: to clarify, right, just wondering if the Bills see wide

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Speaker 2: Really no like overall issues with the team.

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Speaker 1: No, we got to take a time out. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: With some solid traits edge out of Arkansas who did

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Speaker 4: And I think that when you go with Maxwell Hairston,

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Speaker 3: He says that they did thorough research on.

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Speaker 1: It is a good test of the continuity versus, you know,

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Speaker 1: It seems about right in terms of time. Jordan, you

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Speaker 4: You gifted me the New England Patriots. That's right, Thank

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Speaker 4: you very much for your charity on that. If you're Drake,

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Speaker 4: may you feel really good about what the Patriots did

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Speaker 4: he doesn't quite yet have the Greg Rosenthal stamp of approval.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Williams was quietly one of the best receivers in

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Speaker 4: know he still has. I think having a competitor in

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Speaker 4: Pretty much all of these moves that you can see

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Speaker 4: Jared Wilson I really like this pick. Third round center.

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Speaker 4: can help it guard first, So all of this in

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Speaker 4: Mike Rabel draft first and foremost had it was Mike

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Speaker 4: Rabel all over this entire draft class and all over

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Speaker 4: this free agency period prior. But also everything they're doing

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Speaker 1: In the short term, they're gonna have one of the

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Speaker 1: to sort out the nine receivers or so that they have,

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Speaker 1: like Kendrick Bourne could be anywhere from the leading receiver

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Speaker 1: we got center settled. It's Garrett Bradbury is talk to

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, That's why I love this Jared Wilson pick.

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Speaker 1: The team does look much better, but they're thin at

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Speaker 1: They drafted a long snapper that was a little wild,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they managed to go the whole draft and told

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Speaker 2: I hope he has.

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Speaker 5: A great time down here going through all the events.

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Speaker 5: But you would you would wonder how much the Vrabel

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Speaker 1: All of it. All of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, I mean, it's cool because we have

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Speaker 4: have a body of data where it was Mike Rabel

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Speaker 4: in the draft room, and I think we know at

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Speaker 4: this point how influential he was, his intel was, and

442
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Speaker 4: his staff intel too. John Striker, I think plays a

443
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Speaker 4: significant role in that building, not just on the football side,

444
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Speaker 4: but in the analytics and talent identification process. And I

445
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Speaker 4: do think that this is where you're starting to see

446
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Speaker 4: the power structure shake out after a few years of

447
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Speaker 4: questions about what although power structure would look like.

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Speaker 1: To be fair like, they're still having Elliott Wolf do

449
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Speaker 1: the interviews and stuff. There's still a lot of Belichickian

450
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Speaker 1: weirdness that they're sort of pretending that he's the guy

451
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Speaker 1: when all the reporters locally, including like Greg bnard dom

452
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Speaker 1: currents of like say, no, it's it's Mike Rabel, it's

453
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Speaker 1: Ryan Cowden is his number one guy that they brought in,

454
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Speaker 1: were honking too long. Let's go to the New York Jets.

455
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be mine And you know, as Lil

456
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Speaker 1: Wayne One said, real G's move in silence like like lasagna.

457
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Speaker 1: And that's how the Jets I think have been operating

458
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Speaker 1: this offseason. And I just love what they're doing. I

459
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm repeating myself and that that's a that's

460
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Speaker 1: a little wayanism as well. You know, repetition is the

461
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Speaker 1: father of learning. Nothing like he's the only person that

462
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Speaker 1: says that, but it's true. I just think everything they

463
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Speaker 1: have done has made a lot of sense. I think

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Speaker 1: Mason Taylor is going to have a big role right away.

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Speaker 1: I think armand Membu was a perfect like marriage of

466
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Speaker 1: fit and need. They just needed that right tackle and

467
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Speaker 1: there he was, this high ceiling guy, Azaria Thomas. Their

468
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Speaker 1: their third round pick is going to be able to

469
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Speaker 1: compete like right away. Their pass rush is a little

470
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Speaker 1: thin overall. You can't fix everything in one offseason. But

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Speaker 1: I believe that this is a team that like has

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Speaker 1: a vision of who they are going to be. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about Rabel and all the juice he has

474
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Speaker 1: with New England. Aaron Glenn Sneaky has a ton of juice.

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Speaker 1: For a first time head coach, he is one of

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Speaker 1: the more powerful I think first time head coaches. Because

477
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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, Patrick, but my view of it

478
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Speaker 1: is he's the most important person in their front office too,

479
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Speaker 1: which you don't always see with the first time head coach,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's been around the league a long time,

481
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Speaker 1: and I think he's the right guy to handle it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you can see the influence where it in

483
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Speaker 5: the forefront and pick one hundred and thirty, right, he

484
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Speaker 5: gets a player that play that was recruited by Nick

485
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Speaker 5: Saban and played the star position at Alabama in Malachi

486
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Speaker 5: More and again harkening back to that Brian Branch success

487
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Speaker 5: that they had in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder about Arion Smith.

489
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Speaker 5: I know he can flat out fly, but the reactions

490
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Speaker 5: from everybody affiliated with Georgia was that Arion Smith.

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Speaker 2: Cannot catch Ohenough at all.

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Speaker 5: And so it's an interesting spot there. But you know,

493
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Speaker 5: if he gets open, I guess people got to cover him.

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Speaker 2: So why not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think so much of this offensive identity

496
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Speaker 4: is going to be run through in mf R's face. Like,

497
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Speaker 4: I think that's just what this team offense wants to be.

498
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Speaker 4: When you get Membo and you get Mason Taylor and

499
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Speaker 4: you've got him either blocking or detaching from the stack,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is going to be a group on

501
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Speaker 4: both sides that has some attitude and I think Aaron

502
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Speaker 4: Glenn does bring a lot of that juice. But also,

503
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Speaker 4: like I think that's going to permeate through the entire

504
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Speaker 4: cohesive team and not just stick on one side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it's a team built around justin Field.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Justin Field's going to be their quarterback

507
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Speaker 1: forever necessarily, but for this year they are built.

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Speaker 4: Can you just imagine justin Field's running like some sort

509
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Speaker 4: of detached triple option concept behind Armond Membu and Mason

510
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Speaker 4: Taylor's out blocking downfield?

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Speaker 3: Oh my effing got.

512
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Speaker 2: So you can.

513
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Speaker 5: You can build a team around somebody without having them

514
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Speaker 5: literally pick the rest of the players.

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Speaker 3: Am I excited about the Jets?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know too. How are you feeling about the Miami Dolphins? Patrick?

518
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Speaker 5: We feel good about the Miami Dolphins because Beyonce is

519
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Speaker 5: going to be across the street. I'm pointing the wrong direction.

520
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Speaker 5: Beyonce is going to be across the street. And the

521
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Speaker 5: Dolphins said, let me put this on you, right, And

522
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Speaker 5: they get Kenneth Grant out of Michigan. Who I know,

523
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Speaker 5: You're looking at the height and weight and you're and

524
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Speaker 5: you're thinking, oh, this is this guy's a nose tackle.

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Speaker 5: Kenneth Grant was playing in the begap a lot like.

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Speaker 1: Hey, now getting and quick the gap the b e

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Speaker 1: y gat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, all right, well we'll make a whole

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Speaker 5: bunch of Beyonce parallels. But but yeah, the idea, the

530
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Speaker 5: general idea that they need to get tougher, which is

531
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Speaker 5: to me like one of those football things where it's

532
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Speaker 5: like is this really true? Like they just need to

533
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Speaker 5: be better and execute at the things that that they

534
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Speaker 5: were trying to do. Uh, But they get uh, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna blank on Jonah's last name pronunciation out of Arizona.

536
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Speaker 5: But he was a huge trades guy savanaa nine point

537
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Speaker 5: one nine on the relative athletics score, and they get

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Speaker 5: Jordan Phillips out of Maryland. It kind of makes me

539
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Speaker 5: wonder about the Christian Wilkins situation and if they felt

540
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Speaker 5: like maybe they should have been more of a player

541
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Speaker 5: in keeping Christian Wilkins in Miami because it really for

542
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Speaker 5: both sides that departure didn't work out. They get Quinn

543
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Speaker 5: you weers late.

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Speaker 1: Should he have stayed at school? He could have stayed

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Speaker 1: another year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stay play somewhere else. I know Arch is going

547
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Speaker 2: to play at Texas.

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Speaker 1: Right, he would have had to play somewhere else. But

549
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Speaker 1: try to develop I am.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this on the show.

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Speaker 5: The reported nil numbers that you see for college football players,

552
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Speaker 5: somebody proved to me that any one of them is real.

553
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Speaker 5: I need somebody to prove to me that those reported

554
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Speaker 5: numbers are real. I don't believe them. I'd like the

555
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Speaker 5: people who give you those numbers were the same people

556
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Speaker 5: that were lying about how much the payers would getting

557
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Speaker 5: paid in the pat I think there's incentive for everybody

558
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Speaker 5: to lie.

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Speaker 1: I think there is an element of truth to that,

560
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Speaker 1: but maybe just in terms of developing. But yeah, playing

561
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Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel, that's a good place to develop as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. This team stayed together a little more than

563
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Speaker 1: I expected this offseason, although Chris Greer after the draft

564
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Speaker 1: did mention maybe timing for Jalen Ramsey's trade wasn't right,

565
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Speaker 1: And then I looked financially, they can save a lot

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Speaker 1: more cap space trade him after.

567
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Speaker 4: June first, Yeah, saving the money that they didn't have

568
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Speaker 4: to give him in the first place, but still did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I think that the Miami Dolphins fan base overall

571
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Speaker 4: would like completely revolt if they did not go trenches

572
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Speaker 4: with their early picks, and they did. They went defense, offense, defense, upfront,

573
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Speaker 4: and I think that's smart.

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Speaker 3: They had to.

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Speaker 4: They look like a soft team in the winter, and

576
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Speaker 4: they have to not be soft in the winter.

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Speaker 1: They also need to get some cornerbacks because they don't

578
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Speaker 1: have many if Jalen Ramsey is not on that team.

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Speaker 1: They have talked to Rozill Douglas reportedly, all right, we

580
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Speaker 1: have gone through half of the AFC, and what we're

581
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Speaker 1: going to do here is we're going to make some

582
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Speaker 1: money off advertisements. That's what floats this whole boat. We've

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Speaker 1: been on a journey this week. Sure have gone through

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Speaker 1: all the teams. By the time we're up, we've gone

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Speaker 1: through six divisions so far, two more to go. The Steelers,

586
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Speaker 1: what a fascinating organization, Jordan, take it away.

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Speaker 3: What a setup. Thank you, Greg.

588
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Speaker 4: Okay, one thing was clear throughout this draft weekend. The

589
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Speaker 4: Steelers still clearly expect that Aaron Rodgers will join the

590
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Speaker 4: team or Kirk cauz No. My colleague Mike de Favo,

591
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Speaker 4: who does a great job covering the Steelers for the Athletic,

592
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Speaker 4: says the fact that the trade hasn't happened yet still,

593
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Speaker 4: even as the rounds pass, still drop spread crumbs toward Rogers. Really,

594
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Speaker 4: this is the biggest topic around the Steelers right now.

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Speaker 3: We talked about TJ.

596
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Speaker 4: Watt's possible contract a couple of weeks ago on the show.

597
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Speaker 4: A move they made recently that I really liked is

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Speaker 4: adding Robert Woods. It actually showed me that they may

599
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Speaker 4: keep George Pickens after all. And I know that sounds

600
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Speaker 4: crazy considering he was dangled on the trade market. But

601
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Speaker 4: it's a big personality room between DK Metcalf and George Pickens.

602
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Speaker 4: But Robert Woods is like the best dude, and he

603
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Speaker 4: brings people together and he's sort of a glue guy

604
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Speaker 4: in the multi layered elements of an offense in general. Still,

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Speaker 4: even though he's in the twilight of his career, and

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Speaker 4: I can see him being a great like middle child

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Speaker 4: in there. And also, by the way, you know who

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Speaker 4: I think would love to throw to a security blanket

609
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Speaker 4: such as Robert Woods. Aaron Rodgers, who may or may

610
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Speaker 4: not soon be joining this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm higher. I mean, the owner thinks he's joining that,

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Speaker 1: that seems the matter.

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Speaker 4: Derek Harmon, who seems like the eventual air to Cam Hayward,

614
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Speaker 4: was one of my favorite players in the entire draft.

615
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Speaker 4: He's super versatile and he's always around the quarterback. And

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Speaker 4: actually I think I'm higher on Will Howard, who they

617
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Speaker 4: did take it quarterback later on in the draft, probably

618
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Speaker 4: going to be a backup spot maybe even a spot

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Speaker 4: starter eventually. I'm actually a little bit higher on him

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Speaker 4: than I think the zeitgeist is, but specifically for that role,

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Speaker 4: the backup spot starter role.

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Speaker 1: Good moment on the season finallely of Hey rookie, a

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Speaker 1: good NF underrated NFL Films production, when Will Howard got drafted.

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Speaker 1: I always I love those moments.

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Speaker 5: Caleb Johnson kind of gets to be the the thunder

626
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Speaker 5: to the to the backfield question where we talked to

627
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Speaker 5: him on path to the draft on the on the

628
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Speaker 5: way up, he doesn't like the perception of being a

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Speaker 5: big back that is slow because he feels like people

630
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Speaker 5: associate being big with slow. But he does say that

631
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Speaker 5: you know, he can't be explosive, and he was a

632
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Speaker 5: lot of times for Iowa where I think, I don't know,

633
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Speaker 5: if I don't have the confidence right in the offense

634
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Speaker 5: that they're going to have a whole bunch of running lanes.

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Speaker 1: To great, why are they going to be better? I mean,

636
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Speaker 1: they have DK metcalf. That would be the number one reason.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure why this this team is better.

638
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Speaker 1: But to your Caleb Johnson point, the coaching staff immediately afterwards,

639
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Speaker 1: including Arthur Smith, said high volume, high volume. We liked

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Speaker 1: how high volume, and we like that we can take

641
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Speaker 1: pass pro off his plate because Jalen Warren is so

642
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Speaker 1: good at that, so very clearly, kind of like running

643
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Speaker 1: down old school passing down back type of setup. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they better. I'm happy with either Aaron Rodgers result because

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Speaker 1: either it's good content. I mean, it is interesting, I

646
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Speaker 1: will be interested to watch the Steelers, or it's like

647
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: the biggest team building malpractice in a long time, which

648
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Speaker 1: is good content too because he.

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Speaker 5: At least requests such a specific set of things to

650
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Speaker 5: be a certain way. And you combine that with Arthur Smith,

651
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: where hey.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird.

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Speaker 3: It's anyway we win, all right, Yes, let's.

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Speaker 1: Go to the Ravens. Did your Baltimore Ravens win?

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Speaker 2: Patrick?

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Speaker 5: I think they got a very good again the safety

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Speaker 5: position in Malachi Starks, where you have a guy who's

658
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: athletic testing didn't turn out, but on the field, player wise,

659
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: what more could you ask for? I could ask for

660
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: more at this point in you know, we're going to

661
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: be in May very very soon with answers on what happened,

662
00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 5: specifically for Mike Green regarding his sexual assault accusation as

663
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 5: well as Justin Tucker. Just for the benefit of people

664
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 5: being aware of these circumstances and it's specifically what happened

665
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: and how it happened. That conversation, whether to the benefit

666
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: of Mike Green or just to say what actually happened,

667
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 5: I think would go a long way to facilitate better

668
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: conversations around these things. But just a good football player

669
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: would again like to know more. Emory Jones played a

670
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 5: lot of football at LSU. This is I feel similar

671
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 5: to this draft, which had eleven picks in it. Don't know,

672
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: you know, you get down to Dellinger out of LSU, like,

673
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: some of these guys are going to be on the

674
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: back end of the roster. I don't know how much

675
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: they're going to contribute, but it screams another team that's

676
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: going to be a contender.

677
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: It's going to be three or four plays away.

678
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: From having a chance to make it to you know,

679
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: a championship game or the Super Bowl where they were

680
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: able to wait late and take a really good player

681
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: who contributed on multiple national championship.

682
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Worries me a little that they're just rolling it back.

683
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: It's one of the things I noticed when we do

684
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: this exercise, we check the depth charts of just like

685
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: how many new guys are starting for them, and for

686
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: them it's probably Malachi Starks has a good chance and

687
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe New Hopkins, which I wouldn't be you know, I

688
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: thought they'd upgrade that spot a little better. It's always

689
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: just a little worriesome when it's just like rolling it

690
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: mostly back. I just like I want some you want

691
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: it to be mixed up, because I think historically that

692
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily work.

693
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: So I think, and obviously it's a complicated topic because

694
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: I do think that they added above average and explosive

695
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: juice where they really badly needed it, and that's in

696
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: their pass rush.

697
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: But because of.

698
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: Everything going on around this organization with Justin Tucker right now,

699
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: and because of the allegations against Mike Green in the

700
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: situation that they're allegedly researching as well or had researched

701
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: before the draft, it's complicated because I do actually think

702
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: this team got better. But you know, if you're a

703
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: fan of this franchise. There are other questions off the

704
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: field that you're asking about what is normal for this franchise.

705
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Well, Justin Tucker is not going to be on this team.

706
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Most likely. They drafted a kicker, Tyler Loop in the

707
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: sixth round. It does seem like they're just waiting for

708
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: this process to play out and then they're going to

709
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Justin Tucker. As for Green, yeah, they

710
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: they pretty strongly defended and said it was investigated as

711
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: much as they could. I just look at him as

712
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: like a version of a Dafe Oway, but different, like

713
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: he's a raw player that you're not sure is going

714
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: to pan out either if you're just looking at him

715
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: as a football player too.

716
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 5: But they're at least the difference between him and Oway

717
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 5: was that you're projecting, right, the production for Ohra, whereas

718
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 5: Mike Green.

719
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah it was productive, but you're kind of projecting, Yeah,

720
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: the level of play he was at, that's fair, but

721
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: he was at Marshall.

722
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 5: But again, like with all these investigations, there was the

723
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: famous Jerry Richardson and investigation a few years ago. I'm

724
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 5: a little tired in the NFL world of hearing about

725
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 5: an investigation that happens and then not finding out anything.

726
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: I would like to know what actually happened, because I

727
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: feel like it's important for people to know.

728
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: So let's go to the Cincinnati Bengals. I talked about

729
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: it with DJ on our last forties and free agens,

730
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: but I do want to mention it here that Demetrius Knight,

731
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: their second round linebacker, is going to be one of

732
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: the most important rookies in this entire class because he's

733
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: going to be starting an incredibly difficult position for a

734
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: rookie inside linebacker, like right off the bat, they have

735
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: no other option. They are going to get rid of

736
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: Jermaine Pratt by all accounts, and that's kind of true

737
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: of their whole rookie class. Like Shamar Stewart I think

738
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: is going to have an important role on this team.

739
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Dalan Fairchild, who said it was the honor of his

740
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: life to protect for Joe Burrow love that in the

741
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: third round, has a good chance to start too. So

742
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: it's I'm not really making any evaluation on them. It's

743
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: just I think this is a really this is one

744
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: of the most important rookie classes in the NFL because

745
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: it's the Bengals and because they were somewhat surprising picks

746
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: at least the other two, and that I think they're

747
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: all going to have to play right away, whereas a

748
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: lot of true contending teams are not asking their guys

749
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 1: to do that right away.

750
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we mentioned this a couple of Was it

751
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: last week? I think time has no meeting anymore, but

752
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: I think it was last week during our incredibly disastrous

753
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: mock draft that it wasn't disastrous.

754
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: It was entertainment and no one got their mock draft right.

755
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: We had a blast.

756
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: I just love the immediate wrenches we threw into the

757
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: entire system in the top ten and with three different

758
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: players that you and I thought would get that we

759
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: liked it.

760
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: We were wrong on all this.

761
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, fine, specifically, like we know I was wrong with

762
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 4: Jahad Campbell. I'm including me on this, Greg. I would

763
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: never put you on an island like that.

764
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I had Sdar Sanders going in the top ten.

765
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 3: You did, Yeah you did.

766
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 4: But you know what, I like that if you say, hey,

767
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna like fall guy our defensive coordinator and then

768
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: hire a new defensive coordinator and that's supposed to fix everything,

769
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: Like you have to get that guy, some players, some

770
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: young players, some energetic players that you know this this

771
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: is what.

772
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: They actually went about doing.

773
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: And it's kind of one of those things where I

774
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: do think that they did quote unquote enough or they

775
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: think they did enough in their passing game and in

776
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: sort of the schematic elements of their offense. Yes, they

777
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: could always stand to add offensive lineman and they did.

778
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: And this is where on the defensive side you really

779
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: needed to add guys who are going to have a

780
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: trial by fire situation.

781
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: Just a little news update. They did pick up the

782
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: fifth year option for Dax Hill, which I thought was

783
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: an interesting call but has shown more than enough. Really,

784
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: those fifth year options are good deals for the teams.

785
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, if we're if we're scapegoating lou then this is

786
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: it for Al Golden like that, Like Shamar Stewart who

787
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: seemed visibly upset at.

788
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: The time he was drapped, Jamie handled That's so well

789
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 4: Jamie carried the draft at that point because that interview

790
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: could have gone horribly wrong.

791
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 5: But Jamie is able to, you know, to bring him

792
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 5: back to South Florida.

793
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: Guy who like, hey, you're gonna don't.

794
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Think you said about the Bengals. I think he was

795
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: upset that he felt to seventeen for whatever reason, which

796
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: seemed like a totally normal spot for him to go.

797
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: But you know, you get expectations. Expectations are a bit.

798
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns. The expectations the rail

799
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I'm I'm loopy. Oh the Browns. You're up? Okay, guys,

800
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Expectations are going to be low. Is that I'm going

801
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: to land that plane?

802
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: Are you guys ready?

803
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah.

804
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: He is a non comprehensive list of people who could

805
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: also be added to the Cleveland Browns quarterbacks room before

806
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: training camp begins. Daniel Jeremiah, Matt Sarason, whichever one of

807
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers' kids is the oldest, Derek Carr and Lord Farquad.

808
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 4: Oh okay, the Browns actually had a very good draft

809
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 4: once you get past doubling up on the quarterback, which

810
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: if you're looking at value per pick, which at least

811
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: one person in the room was, because this felt like

812
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: a Frankenstein draft where everybody in the room each had

813
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: their own favorite pick and then that's what they went with,

814
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 4: including the owner. If you're looking at value analytically speaking,

815
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: getting the most highly valued player on the board at

816
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 4: that point in Shador later in that round in the

817
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: in the draft does make sense. I'm also actually way

818
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: higher on Dylan Gabriel than I think the general consensuses. No,

819
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: I'm not saying, oh, he's going to go out are

820
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: the Browns. No, I'm not saying he's going to go

821
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: out and become like a starter. But I think this

822
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: kid can play. And I think the only bias really

823
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: that we have against him is his size, which is

824
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: a fair bias to have. But when I was talking

825
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: with people last year about a story on left handed

826
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that I did for The Athletic, he was getting

827
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: rave reviews from NFL people for the way that he

828
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: can excel in a timing offense, the way he can

829
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 4: move and distribute the ball, and specifically conceptually that Oregon

830
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: offense is very similar in a lot of ways to

831
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: a spread out version of what a lot of systems

832
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: do in the NFL right now. And so that's what

833
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: I think Kevin Stefanski specifically identified in him. And I

834
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: think that Kevin Stefanski and shad Or Sanders together also

835
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: raised Shador Sanders floor. I do think that overall they

836
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: had a really, really solid draft. I loved the Carson

837
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: Swassinger pick up. A lot of teams had their eye

838
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: specifically on where he would go, and a couple of

839
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: teams were ready to try to come up and get him.

840
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: Harold Fannon Junior is an absolutely phenomenal, like unicorn type

841
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 4: of player who could really succeed there. So whoever picked

842
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: those guys should be in charge of the whole operation.

843
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Don't know who it was, whoever it was, but picked

844
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: specifically those.

845
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: Two picks it.

846
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: But well we'll never know.

847
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: We may find out in five years and and you know,

848
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 5: Jimmy has Will will be like, yeah, that that was

849
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: actually on me, and I'll take the blame for it.

850
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 5: Where you just don't know how Literally the first thing

851
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 5: we saw on the draft was Jimmy Haslm looking directly

852
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: over as Kevin Sefanski's shoulder on the draft room shot.

853
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: It was like a CBS interview.

854
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: He's like, he's.

855
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: Over very in that capacity. But yeah, Harold Fandom was

856
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: my tight end too, and they get him at the

857
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 5: sixty seventh pick in the draft, and well we'll see

858
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: what the you know, as we get all people in

859
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: a quarterback room.

860
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: But I know it's.

861
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Fun to add.

862
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: I hope DJ.

863
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: You know who's fun to just add to this whole

864
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: offensive mix. Deontay Johnson.

865
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: Dick him.

866
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: He is now a Cleveland Brown and no fifth year option.

867
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: By the way for Kenny Pickett, not a surprise. I

868
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: personally don't think Kenny Pickett will be on this roster

869
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: come week one. Maybe Joe Flacca won't be on this roster.

870
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: One of those two won't be on this roster, would

871
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: be would be my guess. I guess the Kirk Cousins

872
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: thing is never going to happen.

873
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: You say one of the quarterbacks, one of the rookies

874
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: will be starting.

875
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: No, I would guess Picket or Flacco starts, and Gabriel

876
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: and Shoulder are both two and three. But they could

877
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: go the other way and just go four across, which

878
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: teams have done.

879
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: They have another round pick next year. They're also doing

880
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: the thing where they're maybe not necessarily trying to win

881
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: right now. They're not intentionally tanking. They're building like a

882
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: young core of really exciting traits forward guys. I guess

883
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: I should call it time out here, but we don't

884
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: have to go around but time out.

885
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: They they that was quick on the glass.

886
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: There.

887
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: Good job on the keys there, So I feel like

888
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: that this is like, Okay, we're building out the new

889
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: era of what our offensive roster and some of what

890
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: our defensive roster is going to look like, and we're

891
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: not really fixated on quarterback right now, a position that

892
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: absolutely has to win you games. If you're just going

893
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: to sort of manage that position and develop players in

894
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: the short term, twenty twenty six is when I think

895
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: they'll actually try to go about solving their quarterback.

896
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I hear you, but they just gave a quarterback contract

897
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: to Miles Garrett, Denzel Ward, not a young player. Joel

898
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: Buttonio very much at the end of his career. Jack

899
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: Conklin's still on this roster. Like Wyatt Teller, like, nothing

900
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: about this team build is cohesive or makes a lot

901
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: of sense, And I think it could all add up

902
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: to a team that's better than expected, just because Kevin

903
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Stefanski's a pretty good coach and who knows, there are

904
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: decent players on this team. But it's just crazy to

905
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: me that I saw Tony gros See and he's covered

906
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: this team forever, and the way they're covering shoulder they're

907
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: and this is locally the team that the guys that

908
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: actually know the team is like, what are the odds

909
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: of Shoulder starting week one? And they think it's like

910
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: a decent amount, And I'm thinking, like, why didn't you

911
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: take him in the third round? Like, I don't think

912
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: it's that much of a chance of him starting week one,

913
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: but I guess he has a chance. I would think

914
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: it'd be less actually than Dylan Gabriel and certainly less

915
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: than Joe Flacco, But who the hell knows. I don't know.

916
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of a sneaky old team in parts, Like

917
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line is incredibly old.

918
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, but I think you you're

919
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: gonna have to develop your skill guys, and then you

920
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: figure out what assets you can still recoup if you

921
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: need to go younger on the other side of the

922
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 4: ball too, And like Miles gar people were willing to

923
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: go and trade for Miles Garrett this year, right what

924
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: says that, like, Oh, you don't have the same conversation

925
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: next year, even with the big the big contract, if

926
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: you decide you are really going to rebuild the entire

927
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: thing because you're going out and getting a quarterback.

928
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: I just want them to have a like a two

929
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers, two tight end formation where the two receivers

930
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: are Deontay Johnson and Jerry Judy, and then you have

931
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: in Djoku and Harold Fannin. That just seems bonkers to me,

932
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: but I'm down with it.

933
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: That's like at and t bar, like slowly going down.

934
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I like it.

935
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: If Deontay Johnson wants to play football, we'll see.

936
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: I can fix him.

937
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Let's go to our final division. It's the a FC

938
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: West and Patrick. You've got two teams here, so I'm

939
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: going to start with you. Let's go with the Los

940
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Angeles Absolutely.

941
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: I just drove past the Bolt.

942
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: It's a spectacular facility right there, adjacent to my neighborhood

943
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 5: where we saw them at explosive players in the first

944
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: two rounds. Amarion Hampton comes into the backfield along with

945
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: Najie Harris now, and I know that the fantasy community

946
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: is going to be a little bit frustrated by that

947
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: and trying to pick one Trey Harris out of miss.

948
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: We talked about this during our Jackson Dart discussion a

949
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 5: few weeks ago, where you didn't really see a lot

950
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: of what Trey Harris could do. Because he was limited

951
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 5: by the offense that made it developing right, Like finding

952
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 5: an opinion on Jackson Dart was difficult because you saw

953
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: Trey Harris catch hitches and like deep posts and that

954
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: was it. But he's got the speed and explosion that

955
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 5: was really lacking from this Chargers offense over the past year,

956
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 5: where everything was lad. It was all Lad. In the

957
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: playoff game he goes off. But the big concern, while

958
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: they did add speed in that aspect up front, they

959
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: wait until the sixth round. They get Branson Taylor out

960
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh. And I know every team is not the

961
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: Houston Texans in the playoffs and they're going to tee

962
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 5: off on Justin Herbert, but there has to be some

963
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 5: plan to protect the franchise.

964
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

965
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I thought their interior line, even though they added Andre

966
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: James and McKay Beckton, I thought they'd do more this offseason.

967
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: That's probably the one part of the roster. And I

968
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: saw that Daniel Popper, who writes about them for The Athletic,

969
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: I thought this was the most complete Chargers roster at

970
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: this point of the offseason that he's seen, and he

971
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: thought the one spot is interior offensive line. That probably

972
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: feels a little unfinished and maybe they'll add some people.

973
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: And I would say that is a really shaky place

974
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: to have as one of your more unfinished parts of

975
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: your roster, especially if you want to run the ball

976
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: and protect the quarterback the way that the Chargers need

977
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: to And with McKai Beckton, I think we all want

978
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: to see Mccaie Beckton be successful for the long run.

979
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: And to be fair, they have the guys they had

980
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: last year and more on. You know, they added a

981
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: couple of people. Yeah.

982
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 4: To me though, it sort of seems like they took

983
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: the strategy of like, Okay, this running back is incredible

984
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: and huge, which, by the way, have you guys seen

985
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: the pictures of Omari and Hampton arriving at the bolt.

986
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: I mean there's some force perspective I think happening there.

987
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: But like that dude is massive.

988
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: And I love how you know, they went heavy at

989
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: receiver to help Herbert. They took Jeremiah's guy, KeAndre Lambert Smith,

990
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: who had never heard of but was really high on

991
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: jeremih They took him in the fifth round. Rondi Godson,

992
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: who's like fast, Like it's a lot of fast.

993
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of fast, and some size, especially at

994
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 4: their skill position too. But they built that first before

995
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: addressing some of the needs. Legitimately, I mean, we have

996
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: to see how some of these ads and free agency

997
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: work out for them.

998
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: And zero Michigan players, that's true. Everyone just assumed that

999
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: they would take off. Didn't happen. I will talk about

1000
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the former world champion Kent City Chiefs, but they're still,

1001
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, recent champions, reigning AFC champion. I thought it

1002
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: was an amazing draft for them. Now it might because

1003
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm Ali connolly Piled and he just he just loved

1004
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: Omar Norman lot more than like any random player in

1005
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: this draft. The second round pick that they took that

1006
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of snaps at Tennessee, but just

1007
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: seemed like he could be a difference maker in terms

1008
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: of helping your team stop the run. They take him

1009
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: in the second round, and then I know Josh Simmons

1010
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: has some medical red flags, but if you took the

1011
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: guy with the highest ceiling as potential future left tackle man,

1012
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: it's exactly what they needed. I think they've had a

1013
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: really nice offseason. Quietly, they're running back room like lacks

1014
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: a little juice. But when I look at this roster.

1015
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: I think their number one issue is just how hard

1016
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: it is to be the Kansas City Chiefs the year

1017
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: after year, Like if they're tired of just being this

1018
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: good and the expectations because otherwise, Like, I actually think

1019
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: the roster on balance is in a better spot than

1020
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: when when they won the Super Bowl, for instance, three

1021
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: years ago.

1022
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: I think we're going to be looking I really like

1023
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: Noel Campbell. I liked that the Chiefs and Spags picked

1024
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: him up. I feel like we're going to be looking

1025
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: at this secondary even this year, maybe a little bit

1026
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: down the line, and say, how the hell when did

1027
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: that guy get there? You know, because he's just one

1028
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: of those those people I think, Okay, Brishard Smith is

1029
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: so Chiefs coded of a pick. He's a former receiver,

1030
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: He's a one year starter at SMU. He's a former receiver.

1031
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 4: And then he had one nine seventy seven all purpose

1032
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: yards in twenty twenty four, which only ranked behind Ashton,

1033
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: Janty Camp Scataboo and Omari and Hampton seventh round running

1034
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: back and they sold him seventh round running back. Yeah,

1035
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: that's a good point to bring up that I should

1036
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 4: have started with the coordinator there rhet lashly he sold

1037
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: him on coming to SMU because he wanted to turn

1038
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: him into Isaiah Pacheco. So this is like such a

1039
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 4: Chiefs coded pickup and again similar I like no Williams

1040
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: a lot.

1041
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: That was my second favorite pick.

1042
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: This Brishard Smith pick was I'm really intrigued and interested

1043
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: to see what the Chiefs ultimately get out of him.

1044
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 4: And to have the potential that he has and not

1045
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: a lot of wear as a running back would on

1046
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 4: his body, I think is important.

1047
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 5: And hopefully he's able to contribute. But the fact that

1048
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: it took to the seventh round where they take Ceh

1049
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 5: Early a long time ago, relatively, and it seems like

1050
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: the idea is, oh, we can find a guy, and

1051
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: you had to scramble to get Kareem Hunt off the

1052
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 5: couch because you just need to invest in the position.

1053
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: I feel like they still need to.

1054
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do have a history. You like Noah Williams,

1055
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: who is a third round cornerback, and they've been really

1056
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: good nailing those mid round picks. And then Ashton Gillette,

1057
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: the edge that they took seemed like he was a

1058
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: player that was pursued by a couple teams I think

1059
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: the Jaguars liked him, I believe. In that article it

1060
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned how the Rams were possibly high on

1061
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: him as well, and they got him, so we'll see

1062
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: they need some edge help. You got the Broncos, Jordan, Yeah.

1063
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's really amazing how much more

1064
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: logical and settled a team strategy looks once they have

1065
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: the quarterback position figured out. So the Broncos went from

1066
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: like a laughing stock of a team build in the

1067
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: Wilson Hackett rendezvous and the Rogers like the Rogers attempt,

1068
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: and then the Hacket like brief era to this like

1069
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: well oiled and ascending team that added strong pieces to

1070
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: an already badass group and still kept building for the

1071
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: quarter And it strikes me that, oh wow, it is

1072
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: the same general manager there in George Payton, and I

1073
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: don't know where the hell opposing quarterbacks are going to

1074
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: throw with Pat certain Riley Moss on the outsides and

1075
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: now Jday Baron likely in the slot, and they have

1076
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: an ascending pass rush and a great offensive line. I

1077
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: really think this is a team to firmly watch and

1078
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: in contention alert in twenty twenty, I.

1079
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: Wanted more weapons. He can't get everything though, you know,

1080
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 1: I know they took Pat Bryant in the third round,

1081
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: which for a lot of people was surprising Illinois I

1082
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: saw Field Yates had that as his most surprising pick

1083
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: of the entire draft. But it sounds like a player

1084
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: that the league was higher on.

1085
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: I love their I love their running back pick. Another

1086
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: player that the league was higher on than the draftnicks

1087
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: r J.

1088
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: Harvey.

1089
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: He's quick, he's explosive playability, he's so shifty he makes

1090
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: guys miss that. The knock on him was that he's

1091
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Speaker 4: not the best in pass protection. But you do have

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Speaker 4: a quarterback who can move in Riley Moss.

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Speaker 3: And actually r J.

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Speaker 4: Harvey is a former quarterback, so I think everything says

1095
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 4: about that that this guy will get better at pass

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00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: pro because he's thinking about that infrastructure like a quarterback would.

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Speaker 5: Jaday Baron was It might have been, like, looking back

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Speaker 5: at the draft, just too good of a player to

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Speaker 5: pass on, despite like any hope of improving on offense.

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Speaker 5: Why not build on the strength on the back end

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00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: in a very very talented secondary where a lot of

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Speaker 5: the things people were wondering why they didn't draft. I

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00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: feel like they addressed a lot of those needs in

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Speaker 5: free agency as well, where this team is I guess

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Speaker 5: going to be a contender.

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Speaker 1: They like their wide receivers better than I think the

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Speaker 1: outside does. So it's Courtland Sutton, it's Marvin Mims. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if the board had fallen differently to them, they would

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Speaker 1: have moved up or done something, but they did have

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Speaker 1: Matthew Golden on the board, but I applaud that Ultimately

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00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: they just looked at Jday Barony. I think it was

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Speaker 1: less of a need. They have Jakwon McMillan there and

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Speaker 1: they're just basically upgrading at that spot. They have like

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Speaker 1: six good defensive backs, so you're gonna need it with injuries,

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Speaker 1: and they're just set up for it. But you got

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Speaker 1: to applaud them to kind of doing what the teams

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Speaker 1: say that they're going to do and usually don't, which

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Speaker 1: is I think they just stuck with, like this player

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Speaker 1: is more special than the other players.

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Speaker 4: Tiny bit of news, the Drag Green Laws suffered a

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Speaker 4: quad strain. Reports out of Denver via multiple outlets say

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Speaker 4: that he's going to be ready for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: five NFL season, will not need surgery, but the injury

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Speaker 4: was initially reported by Jen Chan at NBC Sports Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: She does a great job, so just wanted to shout

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Speaker 3: her out.

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Speaker 1: You do worry that was a high risk hy reward

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Speaker 1: pick up in free agency. All right, let's wrap it

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Speaker 1: up with the Raiders. Yeah, oh who you.

1130
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Speaker 5: Get Pete now free from Schneider, who wins the power

1131
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: battle in Seattle ultimately, but they get again for the

1132
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Speaker 5: second year in a row, one of the best three

1133
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Speaker 5: players in college football and Ashton genty a year after

1134
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Speaker 5: getting Rock Bauers. They come back with Jack Besh who notably,

1135
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 5: of course went to the tragedy with his brother being

1136
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 5: killed in New Orleans on that horrible day, but also

1137
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: went down to Mobile and had a spectacular performance at

1138
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Speaker 5: the Senior Bowl. He's a bigger wide receiver where I

1139
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 5: do wonder if there's gonna be some route redundancy with

1140
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Speaker 5: Brock Bowers, and it kind of puts Trey Tucker, I'll notice,

1141
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 5: because Jacoby Myers is gonna get a lot probably of

1142
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: attention from Gino Smith as well as brought.

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Speaker 1: It's also kind of a it has been like a

1144
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: big slot, which is essentially what Jack Besch is too. Yeah,

1145
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Speaker 1: but this is their new guys. They need to replace

1146
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: the old guys.

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Speaker 5: And you know, some concerns up front, but they do

1148
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 5: have veterans Jackson Powers, Johnson's played a lot of football,

1149
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 5: Alex Kapa has as well. Where you just it may

1150
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 5: be the Gino effect and maybe I'm biased there, but

1151
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 5: I believe I believe in this roster the way it's

1152
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 5: currently constructed.

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Speaker 1: I believe in the offense man the defense, like Pete

1154
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Carroll and Patrick Graham have an uphill battle. In theory.

1155
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Your defensive line is awesome, but Christian Wilkins and Malcolm

1156
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Koons are coming off major injuries, so you're just hoping

1157
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: they're the players they were before. And in the back seven,

1158
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: I would argue is as question mark filled as any

1159
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Speaker 1: team in the league in terms of the linebackers.

1160
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Speaker 4: In the second world, I really am intrigued and excited

1161
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: to see what the combination is though, of Patrick Graham

1162
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Speaker 4: and Pete Carroll because schematically they don't run the same

1163
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 4: things historically have not run the same types of things.

1164
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Speaker 4: But together, knowing that you are going to have to

1165
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Speaker 4: scheme up some of the pressure, you are going to

1166
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: really have to scheme up some of the coverage shells

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Speaker 4: that you present on the back end, Like I just

1168
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Speaker 4: think we're going to see some really interesting creative stuff

1169
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Speaker 4: out of this defense because you're going to have to

1170
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Speaker 4: because the talent deficit still appears to be there. And

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Speaker 4: on the offensive side, I think the same thing rings

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Speaker 4: true as well. I think they go out and get

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Speaker 4: Ashton genty and specifically hone in on a receiver like

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Speaker 4: Jack Beck who is kind of that power slot, as

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Speaker 4: Nate Tye would say, or that sort of bigger bodied

1176
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Speaker 4: or smaller tight end but bigger bodied receive, and I

1177
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Speaker 4: think they we might see this team do a version

1178
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: of what we always would joke about when some of

1179
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: the Shanahan people would go heavier personnel, which is running

1180
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 4: eleven and a half personnel instead of either eleven or twelve,

1181
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: using a couple hybrid players to be heavier personnel in

1182
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 4: terms of the physical makeup, but then also have players

1183
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: who can do a couple of different things and block

1184
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 4: and pave the path for Ashton Janty, who they're going

1185
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: to defenses they're going to have to accountsel.

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Speaker 1: Still have Michael Meyer on that team too, who was

1187
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Speaker 1: most people's te one two years ago and certainly can block,

1188
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: and I hope they keep them because I think he

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Speaker 1: still he showed something as a rookie. They took a

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Speaker 1: couple of late round like third round tackles rather or

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman Charles Grant and Kayleb Rodgers. Good job by

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Speaker 1: our guy, John Spyteky. He gives up the three for

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, but then after all those trades, he still

1194
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: ends up with three third round picks so and two

1195
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Speaker 1: fourth round picks because he just kept moving down and

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Speaker 1: getting a bunch of mid rounds in a good deep draft.

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Speaker 4: I love it, and if you guys will indulge me,

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Speaker 4: I do want to take a second to shout out

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Speaker 4: my absolutely fantastic coworker, Vic Tafer at the Athletic and

1200
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: he's been covering the Raiders for a long time fifteen years,

1201
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: covered their transition from the Bay Area into Las Vegas.

1202
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 4: He is moving off the Raiders beat as of this

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00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: week and he's moving over to forty nine Ers coverage,

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Speaker 4: still with the Athletic. He lives in the Bay Area,

1205
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: his family's in the Bay Area, so he never he's

1206
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: basically covering the team, traveling a lot.

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Speaker 1: Vic.

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Speaker 4: I know you're drinking a whiskey right now and I

1209
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: really appreciate your mentorship and your coverage. That's a tough

1210
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: team to cover a lot of stuff's happened, but he's

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Speaker 4: one of the best to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of our favorites and multiple time guests

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00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: to Sean Reid will be still covering them for the

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Speaker 1: raid they are covered. Well, that's it. We covered the

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Speaker 1: entire league. We did it, AFC and NFC, we did it.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations guys, thanks for having That's it for this week.

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Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't next, but more we will be

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Speaker 1: back next week. I don't know what we're doing. My

1219
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: mind is totally fright, but we will be doing things.

1220
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Speaker 1: We will be making shows because the football it's on

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Speaker 1: the field. It's back.

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