1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday, 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: September nineteenth. Oh my gosh, I'm absolutely spent from the 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Monday night football. Can we call it a doubleheader when 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: the game's overlap? I personally like it. I had a 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: couple buddies texting me that this doesn't work for them. 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's shuttling kids to volleyball practice. You got dinner, 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: and you've got multiple channels you gotta juggle with. You 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: don't know which game is going to halftime, end of 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: the quarter. Wacky night, all around, unfortunate night if you're 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: a Cleveland Browns fan, really sad night if you're a 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb fan. Pittsburgh Sealer fans are. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Through the roof. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't even know how much time we'll spend on 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints, who are somehow undefeated but gave 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: up a garbage touchdown that did not give us a win. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Anybody who had saying three yet to settle for a push. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: But I think we got to start. Let's start with 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb and the running back situation in the NFL 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: and we were on it all summer. We talked about 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: the running backs. A lot of people were like that, 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: it's not a story, they're just not getting paid, can't pay, 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. And you got the Jonathan Taylor 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: situation brewing in Indy, which Cleveland fans are probably gonna 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: want to talk about here shortly. So we finished two 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: weeks in the NFL, and this is just a partial 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: list of running backs who have gone down with injury. 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is done for the season. It's gruesome. It's terrible. 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: I feel awful for Chubb. He was dominating the Steelers 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: and he takes a just a kill shot to the 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: legs from Minka Fitzpatrick. I like Minka Fitzpatrick. I think 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: he felt awful. That's why he briefly pulled himself out 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: of the game. But the video the screen grabs. It's gruesome. 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I feel awful for Nick Chubb. But it season's over. 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna be turning twenty eight here soon, in the 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: last year of his deal. It sucks. It's terrible, but 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: he's not the only one. So Nick Chubb has done 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: for the season, which is really bad. Saquon Barkley's gonna 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: be out three weeks with his injury that he suffered 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. Okay, we saw David Montgomery of the Lions. 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: He got I think a twenty year contract, sorry, twenty 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: million dollar contract, not twenty year contract, Dave Montgomery. Don't 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: know how long he's gonna be out, Still waiting word 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: on that. We had Aaron Jones miss week two. Don't 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: know about his status for week three. It's a hamstree. 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: We had Austin Eckler miss week two. Don't know about 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: his status for week three. Folks, running backs are dropping 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: like flies all around the league. It's terrible and sad 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: to watch. It makes me depressed that these guys begging 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: to get paid, they don't get paid, and now they're 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: all getting injured. And I'm sure I forgot a couple guys, Rob, 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: did I forget any running backs? We've already gone down 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: here two weeks into the season. I'm trying to think, 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: is there anyone else? 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think you've hit all that 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: about hit so far. 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got two weeks in and you got six, 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: at least six running backs down for the count, and 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: we don't know what their status is coming back. It's 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: like when fans are like, hey, why is b Jon 62 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: Robinson not getting a ton of carries? Well, you don't 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: want to run him into the ground. You know, it's 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: week two. You gotta pace yourself at Derek Henry's now 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: splitting carries with Todd J. Spears, the young kid who 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: I like a lot. I hope you're grabbing him in fantasy. 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: It's just a weird situation for running backs and Chubb. 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: I feel awful for back when he was at Georgia, 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: he was one of the best running backs in the country, 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: had that gruesome injury versus Tennessee, and now he gets 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: the same leg injury in the NFL. It's been eight years, 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: he's clearly been healed, but now the rehab process is 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: not going to be fun. I mean, Nick Chubb. People 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: forget it was like Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and I 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: believe Gurley not graduated but left Georgia for the NFL, 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: and he was like the second leading sec rusher ever 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: after herschel Walker. Like Nick Chubb is a tremendous talent, 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: and it stinks because I don't know, I mean, we 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: saw Walter Payton play into his thirties. Emmitt Smith play 80 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: deep into his thirties. Now, good luck finding a running 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: back into his thirties. They're tough to find. It's just 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: awful all around. Like Nick Chubb, by all accounts a great guy. 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: Love watching the Instagram videos of him squatting a billion pounds. 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: Guy's a cyborg. And then he takes some shot low 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: And I was explaining to my kid, like, the crappy 86 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: thing is they tell you don't go for the head 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: because you don't want concussions. You know it's bad. Go 88 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: for the legs. Oh well, you go for the legs. 89 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: And now Nick Chubb's leg is just I mean, it 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: looked bad and you could Nick Chubb was on the 91 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: ground like reeling, and I guess in the stadium they 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: showed the replay and you hear the entire stadium wins, 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: and at that point I think it was bucket. Aikman 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: on the call said, we're not going to show you 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: the replay. It's pretty narly. It's bad. If you didn't 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: see it, don't worry, you're not missing you know. I'm 97 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 2: sure the screen grabs made it to your Instagram DM box, 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: but it's not pretty. And I feel awful for Chubb. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 2: Compounding matters for Cleveland. They end up losing the game 100 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. And I'm gonna put this one and I 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: know you lose your star running back, who's your best 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: offensive skilled player in Chubb, but you had to lead 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: and Deshaun Watson blew it. Deshaun Watson was abysmal on 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: the first play of the game, pick six. Now that 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: one's not on in it goes right through the hands. 106 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: It wasn't a pass that was on point, but it 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: goes through the hands of a tight end. A couple 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: of Steelers juggle it, and he runs it back. Nine 109 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: seconds into the game. The Browns are at a deficit, 110 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: but because Cleveland's got a great defense, they fight back. 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: You'll hold Kenny Pickett and check create turnovers. I mean, 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: they were awesome. The Cleveland defense is nasty as advertised. 113 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Keep in the game, and the Browns eventually take a 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: leader in the fourth quarter. And then Watson, who folks, 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: He got sacked six times. Okay, this is a great 116 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh front. It didn't look great against San fran I Digress. 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: Watson looked slow, he looked indecisive, he looked nervous. Like 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: he didn't want to make mistakes. Deshaun Watson four years 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: ago was easily a top ten quarterback in the NFL, 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: probably fringe top five. Remember he was getting Houston in 121 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs every year. If memory serves, he was the 122 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: quarterback in Houston that took like a twenty four zero 123 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: lead against the Chiefs in a playoff game. It was like, 124 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what all this mahome zype? And then 125 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: it ended up like fifty one twenty four, So, I mean, 126 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: the Chiefs destroyed them, But for a moment, Deshaun Watson 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: like he was what Josh Allen was a couple years 128 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Remember Josh Allen was like on the cusp of greatness 129 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: that was Deshaun Watson. He was gonna be as good, like, 130 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: you know, top five quarterback for the duration of his career. 131 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: He gets in the off the field nonsense, he messes 132 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: up his career, has to sit out a year and 133 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: a half essentially, and he doesn't look anything like the 134 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: guy he used to be. Deshaun Watson. He's only twenty 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: eight years old. He looks so slow and plotting in 136 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: the pocket and at anytime the pocket collapsed instead of 137 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: veteran quarterback chucking it out of bounds. Deshaun Watson's eating 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: sacks and then in the fourth instead of eating a sack, 139 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: he gets ragdalled by high Smith, loses the football, Watt 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: scoop and score and the Pittsburgh Steelers take the lead 141 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: and win the game. Like, this is not a great 142 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh team, like Pickens without Deontay Johnson, the offense is 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: very limited the run game. You could hear the crowd 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: chanting fire Canada, Fire Canada, because he was so bad 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: that three and out that gave Cleveland a chance at 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: the end. Watson, of course couldn't couldn't finish the drive 147 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: to get the touchdown to win the game. But like 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: the fans don't like Canada, the OC. That was our 149 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: big concern coming in about Pittsburgh, Like the OC stinks. Oh, 150 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a new guy. They look dynamic in 151 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: the preseason, and he's back to old habits. You know, 152 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett keeper on third and one, Like, what on 153 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: earth was that lost? Like five yards? Like it was terrible. Finally, 154 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know if you guys saw this. 155 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: In the third quarter, they pivoted from Naje Harris. You know, 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: I joked on on the Herd this summer when I 157 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: was talking about the Steelers, I was like, I really 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: like him, man, Nase Harris. I talked to a scout 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: who had this funny line about about a running back 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: coming out of college. You were like, he shakes, but 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: he doesn't bake. And I said that about Naje Harris 162 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: that I got so many people love that line. He 163 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: shakes but he doesn't bake. Naje hear shakes a lot, 164 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: you know, bake. He can't get separation. And they put 165 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: in war in the backup, who look really good, and 166 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, ultimately like Pittsburgh's able to pull this game out. 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: They get to one in one, Cleveland drops to one 168 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: in one, and again it's only two games, and you 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: don't want to overreact, but I can't blame the rain 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: this time for Deshaun watson struggles. Okay, you blame the 171 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: rain against Cincinnati. He was flat out bad against Pittsburgh. 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: And you want to say Pittsburgh's defense is great, fine, Okay, 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: Well brock Purty went into Pittsburgh season opener and shredded 174 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: dominated them. It got me thinking, what is the worst 175 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: contract currently in the NFL, Deshaun Watson steal with the 176 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns fully guaranteed, or Russell Wilson's in Denver. Now 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: I teased yesterday Russell Wilson. I would not be surprised 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: if he ends up on the bed this weekend because 179 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: of poor play in Miami. It's gonna be a tough go. 180 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: Would not be shocked to see Stidham Russell Wilson thirty four. 181 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: I looked up the contracts, okay, and this is not 182 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: an easy one. So Watson's only twenty eight, but he's 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: only in year two of his deal. He has if 184 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: they try to get rid of him two hundred million 185 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: dead cap next year. You can't get rid of Watson, 186 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: no shot. Russell Wilson, you can get out, but you 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: got a wait three years, three years. He's thirty four. 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: Russe already doesn't look elusive. Sean Payton, listen, He's not 189 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: gonna make magic overnight with Russell Wilson. But it is 190 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: crazy how quickly some of these great quarterbacks have fallen again. 191 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Four years ago Deshaun Watson one of the most electric 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in league. Four years ago, Russell Wilson top ten 193 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: quarterback foe show. There's no debate about that. And here 194 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: we are now, and it's like neither of them looks 195 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: like they can sniff the top ten. Russell Wilson looks 196 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: exceptionally bad. He took six sacks and I think he 197 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: was hit fourteen times against Washington and Deshan Watson with 198 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: a great offensive line, I know they're missing. Conklin gets 199 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: dropped six times last night with a fumble, two fumbles, 200 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: by the way, and one of them was returned for 201 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown. Rob It is crazy how far these two 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: good quarterbacks have fallen so fast. 203 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I know you don't want to go and 204 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: overreact me it's only week two, but in this case, 205 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: I'll do it for you. Deshaun Watson is done. 206 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 207 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: I have apologies to the Cleveland fans. I have no 208 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: a few of them personally, one of my good friends 209 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: in the media business as a tried and true Browns fan. 210 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: And it's over, okay, because it's not just this season, 211 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: and this season has obviously been really bad. 212 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: But look, he's what. 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: On the year, completing fifty five percent of his passes, 214 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: two touchdowns, two picks, passer rating right around seventy. All right, 215 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: he's been sacked, as you mentioned, nine times across two games. 216 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: Where you say, well, you know, it's two games. He 217 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: played Cincinnati in a rainstorm, and he played one of 218 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: the best defenses in football in Pittsburgh, and so you 219 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: might want to give him a passing and it's early, right, 220 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: So they say it's early. Look, this is just a 221 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: continuation of what he did last year. Last year across 222 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: what was this one, two, three, or six games, fifty 223 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: eight percent passing passer rating right around seventy nine, seven touchdowns, 224 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: five picks, Like this is the new reality for Dashaun Watson. 225 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: He is who he is at this point. Him and 226 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett are like right here their neck and neck. 227 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: There there's like Zach Wilson a gap and then these 228 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: two guys are right above them. 229 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Like they are. 230 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: You can't even call them game managers at this point 231 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: because they do so many dumb things, whether it's the 232 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: interceptions that the sacks at the bad time. You know, 233 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: in this case, Deshaun Watson is directly responsible for two 234 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: defensive touchdowns and the actual Browns defense I believe only 235 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: gave up one. 236 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 237 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So offense, it's It's just it's all bad right 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: now for Dashaun Watson. And it's because of that that 239 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: I believe that his contract is worse than Russell Wilson's 240 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: because as bad as Russell Wilson was last season, this 241 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: season very limited sample size again, it'll play the Raiders 242 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: and the Commanders, completing sixty eight percent of his passes, 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: five touchdowns, one pick, passer rating of one hundred and eight. 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: Right now, do you know what Browns fans would give 245 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: for Deshaun Watson to be completing sixty eight percent of 246 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: his passes and a passer rating of one away, Like, 247 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: it's a matter who you're playing Deshaun Watson right now. 248 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: He's a pitcher who's lost his fastball. He doesn't have 249 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: any confidence in what he's doing out there. You can 250 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: tell by the way he's playing. He's very hesitant. He's 251 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: unsure of himself. And I don't know why this wasn't 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: him in Houston, But how many times did we watching 253 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: last night's game, including the decisive, you know, game clinching 254 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: throw that lost in the game where he's just missing 255 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: guys by like seven eight yards. You know, in week 256 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: one he was skipping it to people like, well, maybe 257 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: it's the rain, you know, the bas slippery. There was 258 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: no condensation in Pittsburgh last night. Deshaun Watson, he just 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: he's broken, Like I don't know how else to describe it. 260 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: And at least with Denver, what you can say is 261 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson is gonna get by based on his veteran smarts, 262 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: right Like he's he can game manage his way and 263 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: complete at a high percentage, which is what he's been doing 264 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: through the first two games for the most part, at 265 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: least in the first half of each of the first 266 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: two games. Is he can kind of work his way 267 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: around and be productive a little bit. Deshaun Watson doesn't 268 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: have that to lean against. He's been getting by on 269 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: his athletic prowess and his gifts throughout his career, and 270 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: it turns out missing a basically a season and a 271 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: half almost two seasons. I don't know if it sapped 272 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: him of what his physical gifts were, but he never developed. 273 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: At this point, it looks like to me that mental 274 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: side that you need to get by when you don't 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: have your best stuff, and he just doesn't have it. 276 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: And because of that, I would rather have Russell Wilson's contract. 277 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,119 Speaker 3: They're both bad, but I'd rather have Russell Wilson's. 278 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: He was always like the best athlete I'm sure when 279 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: he was growing up. Then he goes to Clemson and 280 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: remember he beat Nick Saban with an amazing performance. His 281 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: elusiveness is what made him special, ability to throw on 282 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: the run like he was a dual threat. He doesn't 283 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: look like a dual threat, does he. I mean, Rob, 284 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: I know he didn't play for a year and a half, 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: but like, I mean, you're a pro athlete. You got 286 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: a lot of money, fully guaranteed. Like shouldn't you have 287 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: like a you know, a chef making up your stuff? 288 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: You should have what Lebron has. Lebron's got his Lebron 289 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: garage to keep him going and a max efficiency working out. 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm not putting anything in my mouth until I know 291 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: that my dieticians said I can eat it. Like Deshaun 292 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: Watson should have all the best people around him, give 293 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: it all his money if he wants to become a 294 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: lead again. And what's gonna make it tough is like, Okay, 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton and Watson 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: has you know, Amari Cooper and Djoku. Now Chubb's gone 297 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: and they're gonna be cash strapped, and you really have 298 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: to hit on these picks. Elijah Moore looks okay, former jet. 299 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: I imagine he thought he was getting out of the 300 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson mess and then he was probably a little 301 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: jelly that Aaron Rodgers showed up and they didn't want him. 302 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: And now it's like, oh, I thought I had something 303 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: in Watson and maybe I don't. The thing about Russell 304 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: Wilson though, like we had, he wasn't injured, he didn't 305 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: have any off field controversy. He just like got old 306 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: and not good. Like I don't know, I'm not ready 307 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: to toss Watson completely, but man, that was a tough 308 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: watch and rob these Island games, Man, don't mess with 309 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: your head, you know, you know I don't want to. 310 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: We don't want to spend it too much time on 311 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: the on the New Orleans Saints, But like, did you 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: try to watch a lot of that game? Because Saints 313 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: are borderline unwatchable for three quarters and then finally in 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: the fourth, like they opened things up and Tasom Hill 315 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: becomes a factor and Tasom Hill really won them that game. 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: But they are just a tough watch, Like they don't 317 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: look like a team that could go to the playoffs 318 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: and win a playoff game, not with that brand of football. 319 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, they're barely getting by a garbage Carolina team 320 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: with Carolina's defense is kind of juiced up playing at home. 321 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: I get that, But everything I saw from Carolina was like, 322 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: we don't have any players. Bryce. They had two explosive 323 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: plays rob the entire game, Bryce Young scrambling for like 324 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: twenty six yards, and then they have one played to Mingo, 325 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: the young kid out of Oregon State. But like, they 326 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: don't have guys. And you look at the Saints and 327 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: they're gonna be getting Kamara back pretty soon. They got 328 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: this kid Jones who looked okay, two touchdowns. Jamal Williams, 329 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: who I drafted in fantasy. He's like the third guy 330 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: last night, Taysom Hill, who I thought again, I've been 331 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: a long time Taysom Hill fan. He came through in 332 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: the clutch, added a new dimension. I don't know, it's 333 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: weird that the Saints aren't better, but rob My pet 334 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: theory is their head coach is Dennis Allen, and he 335 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: thinks he's got a special defense, and they're pretty good. Again, 336 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: you face Ryan Tannehill and Bryce Young. But given the 337 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: schedule and I hyped the hell out of it during August, 338 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: they're not playing anyone all season, so there's a chance 339 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: this continues. I wonder if Dennis Allen, the head coach, 340 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: defensive guys saying, hey, guys, we got this. Let's get 341 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: the defense win a low scoring game, not make many mistakes. 342 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: You saw Carr put up that one pass. I joked 343 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: on Twitter that he threw it into a team meeting, 344 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: like three Carolina Panthers in the area. What are you 345 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: doing underthrown? It looked like a JV pass by car Panthers. 346 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Didn't look good. We know that. But the Saints to 347 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: me unimpressive in victory. 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Rub Yeah, it wasn't great. 349 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: But one thing I will push back on you a 350 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: little bit is you say the Saints defense is good, 351 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: not great. They have now held their opponents to twenty 352 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: points or fewer in ten straight games, the longest streak 353 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: since the twenty eighteen Patriots, So their defense is elite. 354 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: Maybe because they don't have the brand names. I know, 355 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: Cam Jordan's not a sexy name, but you know that. 356 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Defense back on Monday Night Football. 357 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: Defense is the real deal, Holy Field, all right. And 358 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: the one thing that I will give the Saints a 359 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 3: pass on is this. 360 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: Now. 361 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: Derek Carr's red zone issues are well documented. I mean, 362 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm a Raider fan, okay, like I know exactly where 363 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: the problem is. But one thing I think this is 364 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: something that was beating to us said by John Grudenen 365 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: is carrying over here with Dennis Allen and the Saints 366 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: is if we are in the red zone, the one 367 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: thing you absolutely cannot do is take points off the board. 368 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: So he is just as likely to throw it six, 369 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: you know, six rows into the stands as he has 370 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: to try to fit it into a window and give 371 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: his guys a chance. So that might prevent you from 372 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: winning big and winning in the postseason. I think that's 373 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: ultimately what's gonna happen here with New Orleans. But for now, 374 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: with this defense, they're gonna be able to win a 375 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: lot of ugly games because no one's gonna score enough 376 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: on them to, you know, to make it. So Derek 377 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: Carr has to make those kind of throws. And the 378 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: one thing he has working in his favor is unlike 379 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, Deshaun Watson we just touched on and some 380 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: of these other quarterbacks who have kind of gotten to 381 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: a slow start. 382 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Is he's working with. 383 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 3: A whole new team, a whole new system, whole new 384 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: Google Ride receivers. I expect you're gonna see them come 385 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: together as the season goes on, and right now you're 386 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: seeing the early returns of you know, there's just no 387 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: chemistry right now. I mean, all their best plays are 388 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: Chris o'lave or Michael Thomas making ridiculous catches. It's not 389 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: because these guys are on the same page. 390 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly two weeks in a row. It's interesting they 391 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: go I think they go to Green Bay this week. Yeah, 392 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 2: they go to Green Bay and the line early is 393 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: green Bay by two. Here's my thing. We don't know 394 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: about Aaron Jones, we don't know about Watson, left tackle Bactiari, 395 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: like he didn't play last game. They nearly beat the 396 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Falcons missing all those guys. So I don't know what 397 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: to make of this Packers team. 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It's 431 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: not widely available. So the Bengals are hosting the Rams 432 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl rematch Monday night four. Let's see, 433 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: there's two Mondon in football games Ers Eagles, Bucks, which 434 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: is kind of interesting. Two to two and oh teams 435 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: and then the Rams and the Bengals. Rams have been 436 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: an impressive one in one and the Bengals look just 437 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: freaking awful at oh and two. I do have a 438 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: number here for you. On teams that go oh and three. 439 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: Since two thousand and two, ninety nine teams have started 440 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: oh and three. Just one has made it to the playoffs. 441 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: The years telling me there's a chance. 442 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen Texas with Deshaun Watson made the playoffs. 443 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: Now that division a joke. Bengals division is not a joke. 444 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: This is must win. And Joe Burrow reaggravated the calf injury. 445 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: We don't know his status. I could tell he was 446 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: limpic I think I called it out watching the game. 447 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: I was like, what Burrows just does not look the same. 448 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: And the biggest tell is this was six and a 449 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: half on the look aheadline. You could bet it in 450 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: Vegas six and a half before the Game's just happened 451 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: this past weekend reopens at one and a half in Vegas. Okay, 452 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: somebody knows something about Joe Burrow's calf injury. Somebody has 453 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: to know something. It's one and a half now, Rob, 454 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: I did pick the Bengals to win the Super Bowl 455 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: if Burrow doesn't play. First of all, I don't even 456 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: know who their backup is. I'm gonna have to look 457 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: it up. Can they beat Matt Stafford with Joe Burrow's backup. 458 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: I gotta look this one up unless you know it 459 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: off the top of your head. 460 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: Who the heck knows the backup quarterback in Cincinnati. 461 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: That's a good Jeopardy question. By the way, I'm gonna 462 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 2: try to audition to be on Jeopardy. Oh, Jake Browning, 463 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: he went in week one. 464 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: What an idiot? Washington legend. Jake Browning, Washington legend. 465 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the height span for like eight seconds. Yeah. 466 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Someone at Fox want to like the hair and makeup 467 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: ladies works on Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune, and I'm like, oh, 468 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: I would love to be on one of those shows. 469 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, let me know, you know I can, 470 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. She doesn't do it all the time. 471 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: I guess she works sometimes, so you know you eventually 472 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: you know people. So I'm hoping at one point, maybe 473 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I can't do it during the NFL season, 474 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: I would love to get up. Which would you rather 475 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: go on? Rob Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune? 476 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, wheel of Fortune if it's easier. But my dream 477 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: for years has been family feud. Like I even have 478 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: my team I have my team already selected, and my 479 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: wife is pissed because she's not on it because I 480 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: don't think I don't think she would perform well enough 481 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: to be on my team for family feud. 482 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: That's just full disclosure. 483 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: She knows this, No, she her mind doesn't always think 484 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: of like the most obvious answers, and that's what family 485 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: Feud is. 486 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: It's like the obvious thing you do. 487 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: You watch Family Feud when it's on. I mean I'll 488 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: have it on in the background or something in the background. 489 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Round. 490 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, I've seen some of the clips. It seems funny. 491 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: While I'm on Super Random, off the off the Wall 492 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: topics before we wrap up NFL. So Rob, you know 493 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: the men's basketball team, I'm on the men's basketball league. 494 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: So there's another league starting up even closer. And usually 495 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: we can't do fall because of football, but this league 496 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: plays on during the week. I'm not gonna say which 497 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: night plays during the week. And so I went around. 498 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: I would see guys at the gym and be like, 499 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: are you playing in the league. I want to just 500 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: see what the competition is like. And I saw former 501 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: Lebron teammate timofay Mosgolf who has played in some pickup games, 502 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: not with me, but with other guys that like, I 503 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: set up this pickup game, but now I'm on the herd, 504 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: I can't play in the pickup game. So Mosgof played 505 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: in the game, and he said, yeah, I'm gonna play 506 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: in the league, and so he's gonna be in the 507 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: league against us. This will be the first time I've 508 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: played against a former NBA player. Mosgof of course, the 509 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: seven foot center who made a bleap ton of money. 510 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: Former Laker team of former Laker that's right, him and 511 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: lou All Dang. Remember like in the summer. 512 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: Of what was that is that the Steve Nash team? 513 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: No, it was like the twenty the Kevin Durant year 514 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: that he went to Golden State and everyone had money 515 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: because of the cap spiking and the twenty fifteen right 516 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen the summer before, and the Lakers struck out 517 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: on everyone. So they're big signings were Tima Fay Mosgoff 518 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: and lou All Dang. 519 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: They had to stretch provisions. 520 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they gave like one hundred 521 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: and fifty million of those two guys. 522 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's not good. Wow. Anyways, So Mosgow is in 523 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: the league. We are the favorites. We because we brought 524 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: our team. The other people it was like, we need 525 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: like forty guys and then they'll they'll pick the or 526 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: they'll divvy up the teams from those guys. We're like, 527 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: we've got our team. We don't we don't need any 528 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: free agents unless they screw us. But we'll have details 529 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: on that later, not that anybody cares, so, Rob, I 530 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: don't know, how do you feel about that? Owen three 531 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: stat Like teams that start oh to three, there have 532 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: been ninety nine of them since two thousand and two. 533 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: One has made the playoffs. That means it's pucker up 534 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: time for the Cincinnati Bengals, the Chargers, the Vitings. Now 535 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: the Vikings are interesting because look at that division. Lions 536 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: are one and one, offensive line is falling apart, defense 537 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: still non existent, Bears oh and two close to a disaster, 538 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: Packers one and one, tons of injuries. Vikings could go 539 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: oh and three and still come back and win the division. 540 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I would say they're in the mix even if they 541 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: lose to the Chargers. And then there was one other 542 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: zero to two team that was good that I forgot 543 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: oh Broncos, but the division is brutal, and we don't 544 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: know if the Broncos are good, they will be going 545 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: oh to three unless they somehow beat Tua and the 546 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: juggernaut that is the Miami Dolphins. You want to put 547 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: a bow on a Week two Rob with any any 548 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: hot spicy takes other than Russell Wilson's contract at Watson, 549 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: which I think is incredibly spicy. 550 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a super hot take, 551 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: but fees off what you just mentioned. If I'm Cincinnati, 552 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 3: I'm resting Joe Burrow. This Aaron Rodgers situation where the 553 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: calf suddenly becomes an achilles would scare me straight. 554 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, if I'm. 555 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: I think Rogers it was the right calf in the preseason, 556 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: I think it was the right calf. I don't think 557 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: it was the left. But I get your larger. 558 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: Point right, because Joe. They just gave Joe Burrow that 559 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: massive contract. He's now tweaked it twice in what six 560 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: weeks or seven weeks, and he tweaked it immediately after 561 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: coming back. And one thing we know about soft tissue 562 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: injuries like this is it's going to keep happening until 563 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: you get it. One hundred percent, and he said after 564 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: week one he wasn't a hundred percent, and so it 565 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: popped up again in week two. If it means putting 566 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: him on ir and starting the season you know two 567 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: and four or whatever it takes, Like you can't risk 568 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: a season ending injury to Joe Burrow. You just can't 569 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: do it that That roster has enough pieces. I think 570 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor's a good enough coach where you can kind 571 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: of tread water a little bit. 572 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: I just I would not risk. I would not risk. 573 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: So you know, us athletes, we get calf because I 574 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: had a calf thing going on and I was like terrified. 575 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: So I got a massage and then I got those 576 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: calf sleeves and I wore them when I played. I 577 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: took advil and I would, you know, shut it down 578 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: when I needed to. But I wasn't like playing every 579 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: day like Burrow's got to practice every day. And it 580 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: was fine, but it was like there was a moment 581 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: where I was nervous because the calf. You can't mess around. 582 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I think Burrow's got a play. You just paid him, man, 583 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: you gave him all the He's the richest quarterback in 584 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: the league. Oh By the way. The other big news 585 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: Mahomes readjusted his deal. Rob would banged on the Chiefs 586 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: for so long. I can't believe Mahomes gave him my home. 587 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm still banging on him. 588 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Rob was right, like, Mahomes shouldn't have 589 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: done that. But guess what, Hey, I won the Super Bowl. 590 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: Let me restructure. Oh sure, Pat, how could we help? 591 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: You know? And they just bet over backward. Now Mahomes 592 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: is the richest quarterback. It's like, I don't NFL feels 593 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: like funny money, doesn't it. 594 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: It is funny money. I mean outside of the Deshaun 595 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: Watson contract because it was fully guaranteed, where they can't 596 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: just keep kicking the can down the road. You know, 597 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: you can finagle the salary cap any which way you 598 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: want to. In case of point Derek Carr, they were 599 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: sixty million dollars over the cap in New Orleans. Suddenly 600 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: they're able to restructure a bunch of guys that are 601 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: thirty million under the cap to sign Derek Carr outright 602 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: and then quickly Joe Burrow if they you know, put 603 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 3: him on a Let's say I are the worst case scenario, right, 604 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: next four games home against the Rams, at Tennessee at 605 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: Arizona home against Seattle, then a bye week. 606 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I think they would go to It's not bad. 607 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: I think they could. 608 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: Arizona's plucky. I'll end with the spiciest take only for 609 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: the p one listeners. There you go, so that Browns 610 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: defense is good enough to get you to the playoffs 611 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: and stay is safe. Stefanski's job, it's nasty. I don't 612 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: think Watson. I know the kid Ford showed well. He 613 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: had an awesome, like seventy yard run that was spectacular, 614 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: and people saying, oh see see, running backs are interchangeable. 615 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: You know, they put up the Leonardo DiCaprio thing from 616 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: I've already forgotten the movie, but it was. 617 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: A great one Once upon a Time in Hollywood. 618 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my guys, that's a good movie. By the way, 619 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: where he's pointing at the TV screen so you see 620 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: running backs don't matter looking forward. He had a seventy 621 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: yard carry. Okay, fine, wonderful. Do the Browns say we're 622 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: all in. Coach wants to keep his job. I like Stefanski. 623 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: We got Watson, Let's go get Jonathan Taylor. Let's see 624 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: what the presking price is maybe they've lowered it. Taylor 625 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: and Chubb pretty much were two of the best backs 626 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: in the league two years ago. No, I mean Jonathan 627 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Taylor is an electrifying running back. He's a pass catching 628 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: weapon similar to Chubb. I'm sure he would want a 629 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: new I don't know how Keen Brown's is gonna want 630 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: to be to shell it out given what they just 631 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: saw happened a Chubb. I don't know, Rob, I just 632 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: all I know is this without Nick Chubb. I don't 633 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: think this is a playoff team. Can they Can they 634 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: push to maybe be a wild card? Sure anybody can 635 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: do that. Hell, the Tampa Bay Bucks might do that. 636 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: I just don't think they'll be able to pull it 637 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: off in that division. I mean, stranger things have happened. 638 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Burrow sits out. This goes on ir or wherever. 639 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: Steelers their injuries seem to be mounting. Ravens are somehow too, 640 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: and oh they're only going to get healthier. But like, 641 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, Jonathan Taylor to me is spicy enough. 642 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: I know people think running backs don't matter. You add 643 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: him to the Stefanski offense, Amari Cooper and Joku Jonathan Taylor, 644 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: you got some weapons, and I don't think you really 645 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: want to see what happens to Deshaun Watson when he 646 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: loses Nick Chubb. I think maybe it's just me, but 647 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: in the second half I didn't like what I saw 648 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 2: at all from Watson. The security blanket is chubbed. The 649 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: offensive line like, I think you need a running back, 650 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: I think, And again, maybe I'm being too aggressive and 651 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: thinking too nbaish rob, But with the Kirk Cousins, Jets 652 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: should kick the tires. And now with Jonathan Taylor, why 653 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: the hell not if you're the Cleveland Browns. Because I 654 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: know people don't want to hear this, but I do 655 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: believe if the Jets flounders six seven wins, there's a 656 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: really good chance Robert sala is gonna get fired. I've 657 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: talked to Eric Mangini about this countless times. He was 658 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: the Jets coach. He's talked about it, so I'm not 659 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: revealing state secrets here. He was the Jets coach. He 660 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: didn't want farv what hey, Johnson says, we're getting far 661 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine. Manganie's like, listen, I don't want 662 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: this to cost me all my job. No, No, you're good. 663 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: Don't worry, it's gonna be fine. We're going Fares on 664 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: a tear. They're like eight and three. Then Farv has 665 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: some injuries, didn't miss any time. Jets Spiral missed the playoffs. 666 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: Far of leaves Mangini fired. Like these guys get screwed. 667 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: These billionaire owners can do whatever the hell they want. 668 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: You can make all the promises to sall that you want. 669 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: He could be the nicest guy. If they won six 670 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: or seven games, missed the playoffs, he's probably gone. And 671 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: if you're the Cleveland Browns and you're Stefanski and you 672 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: know you went playoffs with Baker, you won a game, 673 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: and now you backslid, backslid, Now you have no Chubb, 674 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: It's like you don't, I don't think they're a playoff team. 675 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: And then you keep it Stefanski, Well, if you had 676 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, like, how's that gonna go over? I just 677 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: I would want to be aggressive. If I were the 678 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: Browns front office and I like Stefanski, I would say 679 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: let's go get Jonathan Taylor or pushed all our chips in. 680 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: Browns are a sneaky team. Rob that defense. 681 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: Hey, no, Joe, Yeah that Devin's is the real deal. 682 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: And to your point about Jonathan Taylor, well, bigger point 683 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: about the situation was Stefanski. They've invested so much already 684 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: into Shaan Watson, it's much easier from an ownership standpoint 685 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: to say Stefanski, you couldn't fix him, something's going on. 686 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: We'd think he's a great player. We gave him two 687 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty million dollars. If you can't do it, 688 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 3: we'll find some one else who will, point blank period. 689 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: So your points are all taken absolutely. 690 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: All right, guys, that's a lengthy podcast. We will get 691 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: back it. We had a couple of good guests booked 692 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: later in the week. I'll try to say this, a 693 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: former Notre Dame football player who spent a long time 694 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: in the NFL should be a really good guest later 695 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: in the week. And gambling with another guy who I 696 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: think has been on the podcast before. Actually the NFL 697 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: player hasn't, this other gentleman has, so it should be 698 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: a big week. Talk to you later.