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Speaker 1: Late today that the US continues to bolster its capacity

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Speaker 1: elite eighty second Airborne Division are expected to deploy to

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Speaker 1: units totally Totally about forty five hundred personnel also headed

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Speaker 1: for action on short notice. Now, word of this new

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Speaker 1: deployment camped off another day of some hopeful talk from

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Speaker 1: the President about negotiations with Iran.

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Speaker 2: They're going to make a deal. They did something yesterday

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Speaker 2: that was amazing. Actually, they gave us a present and

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Speaker 2: the president arrived today. It was a very big present,

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Speaker 2: worth a tremendous amount of money.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell you.

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Speaker 2: What that president is, but it was a very significant

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Speaker 2: and they gave it to us, and they said they

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Speaker 1: Unclear what that presentee is talking about actually is, though

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Speaker 1: gives aside, though gas prices rose again today to three

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, today a senior diplomat in Iran who requested anonymity

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Speaker 4: told ms NOW and Iran is not ready to enter

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Speaker 4: negotiations at this time. Also, breaking tonight, ms NOW just

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Speaker 4: confirmed the Pentagon is preparing to send about three thousand

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Speaker 4: soldiers to the region. The troops from the Army's eighty

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Speaker 4: second Airborne Division are in addition to nearly five thousand

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Speaker 4: a total of nearly eight thousand troops headed to the region.

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Speaker 4: Here's how a House leader Democrats. House Democratic Leader Hakim

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Speaker 4: Jeffries pushed back this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: That a single truth should be put into harm's way

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Speaker 5: in the context of Donald Trump's failed effort to try

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Speaker 5: to bomb Iran out of existence without any clear strategy

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Speaker 3: Life, for the American Toro.

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Speaker 6: The United States has now sent to Iran a fifteen

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Speaker 6: as fighting Raddalsah region and economic fallout escalates. That's according

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Speaker 6: to The New York Times, citing two officials briefed on

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Speaker 6: the plan has been shared among Iranian officials. It also

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Speaker 6: remains unclear whether Iran will accept any offer, or if

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Speaker 6: Israel is on board with the proposal. I would say

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Speaker 6: those are two key areas for this to work, officials

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Speaker 6: tell the Times. The plan addresses Iran's ballistic missile and

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Speaker 6: nuclear programs. The Wall Street Journal meanwhile, site's officials who

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Speaker 6: say the document calls on Iran to dismantle its three

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Speaker 6: fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz. The officials add that

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Speaker 6: Iran would in return have nuclear related sanctions lifted, and

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Speaker 6: The journal also reports that mediators from Turkey, Egypt, and

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Speaker 6: Pakistan are pushing to have a meeting arranged between US

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Speaker 6: both sides remain far apart.

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Speaker 7: He was bluffing. They called his bluff and back down.

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Speaker 7: And you can say that he was doing this to

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Speaker 7: he's doing this to manipulate the markets. And what have

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Speaker 7: we seen. We've seen President completely change his explanation of.

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Speaker 3: What he wants.

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Speaker 7: Just days ago, he was calling for the unconditional surrender.

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Speaker 7: Now he's saying, Okay, we want to make a deal

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Speaker 7: with such and such terms. And this is complete strategic incoherence.

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Speaker 7: And despite the fact that we have a military that

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Speaker 7: if we have no strategic direction, then there's no clear

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Speaker 7: way to get to the end of this war. Now,

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Speaker 7: it's a good thing, and I think that Trump has

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Speaker 3: But to do so in a.

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Speaker 7: Way that has no coherence and no actual plan for

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Speaker 7: extricating the US out of this war is diplomatic malpractice.

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Speaker 1: The head of the guy who was assassinated last week.

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Speaker 1: What's his story?

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Speaker 8: So it's not a regime change, it's personnel change. Anderson essentially,

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Speaker 8: you have a new group of individuals who share the

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Speaker 8: same ideology, and we call them hardliners. They call themselves

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Speaker 8: principlists because of me. They're loyal to the principles of

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Speaker 8: the nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Revolution, Do they actually I mean that's the term they

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Speaker 8: In Persian they say, so we'll get us principles, and

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Speaker 8: those principles are essentially now a couple of things, death

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Speaker 3: Hasn't it always?

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Speaker 1: I mean, those have always been kind of guiding principles,

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Speaker 8: They've been the guiding principles since nineteen seventy nine, and

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Speaker 8: it hasn't evolved at all since nineteen seventy nine?

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 10: Are they more hardline?

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Speaker 1: I mean that has been the argument that, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: it is technically, I guess regime change because there's new

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Speaker 8: I think it's a regime which is even less flexible

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Speaker 8: that that's the only thing that they have left to

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Speaker 1: Help source to say roughly one thousand US soldiers from

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Speaker 1: the eighty second Airborn, as we said, are expected to

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Speaker 12: So for me, I think it's helpful to remember that

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Speaker 12: we actually don't have affirmative congressional authority to be engaging

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Speaker 12: and they haven't here. And so the way that the

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Speaker 12: executive branch has basically been getting around that is by saying,

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Speaker 12: we're not quite technically at war. We're just engaged in hostilities,

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Speaker 12: or just less than hostilities. We're just doing aer strikes,

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Speaker 12: type of ground force invasion. Well, you're kind of out

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Speaker 1: So Article one off, it's just a couple of thousand troops.

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Speaker 12: Yes, I mean that is expressly what Article one is

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Speaker 1: Marks you heard the Israeli Defense minister saying today that

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Speaker 10: I mean just moving.

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Speaker 3: The difficult with that.

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Speaker 13: The difficulty with that clearly is you put your troops

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Speaker 13: Do that, you have to move to the northernmost or

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Speaker 13: That simply takes time, and again, anytime you put boots

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Speaker 13: also go back to what Margaret said in advance of that,

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Speaker 13: there clearly is intelligence that has to be provided to

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Speaker 13: your partners if they are in fact going to execute

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Speaker 13: some operations. That's all part of it as well. And

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Speaker 13: again you want to be able to do the diligence

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Speaker 13: partners are all all about, because you're going to share.

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Speaker 13: In this particular case, we're going to share with the

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Speaker 6: And in a sign of that distance, Shortly after the

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Speaker 6: mocked the attempts for peace, speaking in a pre recorded

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Speaker 6: put it like this, quote, have your internal conflicts reached

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Speaker 6: the point where you are negotiating with yourselves? He added, quote,

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Speaker 6: Our first and last word has been the same from

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Speaker 6: day one, and it will stay that way. Someone like

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Speaker 14: Now you see you, you say it that way and

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Speaker 14: sort of chill goes just fine, that's the way you

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Speaker 8: What the press has reported is the person that the

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Speaker 8: President Trump has in mind is the current Speaker of Parliament,

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Speaker 8: Mohammed Balder Kaliboff, who is former Senior Revolutionary Guard commander

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Speaker 3: Why is it?

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Speaker 8: Why can't they change the ideology? I think that this

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Speaker 8: because their ability to control Iran is much easier when

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Speaker 8: And it's a regime which for forty seven years has

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Speaker 11: I mean, we're getting energized about the fact that we're

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Speaker 3: But both the.

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Speaker 11: the Ready Brigade from the eighty second Airborne Division, they're

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Speaker 11: relatively small forces and they can't move around a lot.

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Speaker 3: But this is a first effort.

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Speaker 11: The eighty second deploys worldwide with that ready brigade deploys

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Speaker 11: within eighteen hours their wheels up out of Fort Bragg

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Speaker 11: and neither can the Marine Expeditionary Unit. Once they go

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Speaker 11: this may these two forces may be the entry level forces,

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Speaker 11: but it indicates that there's plans for others to come in.

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Speaker 11: But those others coming in will come in very very slowly.

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Speaker 11: Airborne Division. Still, that's a relatively small force, about fifteen

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Speaker 10: Do you think the president's thinking right now?

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Speaker 15: So I'm going to guess that the president is thinking

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Speaker 15: Trump has said he's going to wait far five days

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Speaker 16: Wednesday, twenty five March, in the Ear of Lord, twenty

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Speaker 3: On the warmer in the worm I guess we're in

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Speaker 16: We're gonna break it all down for you in much, much,

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Speaker 9: The morning, Jim Riley Sharlotte to.

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Speaker 9: Use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 3: Bas Okay, welcome back.

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Speaker 16: President Trump's given them this fifteen point plan is an

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Speaker 16: of course, they're working the the Pakistan angle with the

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Speaker 16: a pre nup. Interesting Eric Bowling. The markets where the

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Speaker 16: I think there was a very astute observation that those

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Speaker 3: In back of that.

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Speaker 16: Eric, what are global capital markets and particularly commodities like

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Speaker 10: I'm amazing. So when the kind of deal the five

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Speaker 10: this was very interesting. This headline that came out this

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Speaker 10: then the markets are very, very jittery. On every news headline.

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Speaker 10: That's relevant because far as the you know, the Iranian state,

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Speaker 10: news agency. They're working the American refs. And I call

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Speaker 10: The dc CEE, this is really interesting, Steve. I don't

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Speaker 10: They want to higher oil price. If you need more

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Speaker 3: They're playing the rest.

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Speaker 16: That's the media and people because remember, you do have

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Speaker 3: In the Mulas right all the way up to the Ayatola.

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Speaker 16: There are competing facts actions, you know, in the regime

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Speaker 16: Supply side, tax cuts and tariffs and bringing manufacturing back,

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Speaker 16: And that's driven as you know, eric By, you know,

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Speaker 10: dollars a barrow. Because the Rainians aren't going to sit

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Speaker 10: a lot of confusion out there. Again, the sooner Trump

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Speaker 16: If you if you look at this, I know you've

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Speaker 16: and I think Johnson is going to do the six.

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Speaker 16: President Trump, though, is in deal mode. There's no doubt

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Speaker 16: The president, but he's he's he's searching for a solution here.

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Speaker 3: He's he's got a military solution.

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Speaker 16: Still, get the lover, he's got combat troops heading in,

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Speaker 16: What should people look for in the next couple of

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it's both positioning, both sides, both sides.

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Speaker 10: So Trump is obviously gonna ready the airborne. I'm also

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Speaker 10: hearing that Trump said today our truth, last night or

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Speaker 10: meaning likely meaning within days. Those will all be relevant.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that we're going to actually see a

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Speaker 16: We have to a degree shattered their traditional you know,

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Speaker 3: I think somebody told me down to the brigade level.

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Speaker 16: And so President Trump, the first issue he's got to

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Speaker 16: a deal with? And that's why the Pakistani field and

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Speaker 3: Very well, lovely, lovely lovely folks.

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Speaker 16: The Pakistani Field Marshall, who is very close to President Trump,

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Speaker 16: You've got the Arab Council, the Golf Council, the guys

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Speaker 16: So from an intelligence point of view, how are they

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Speaker 16: framing this with the president now, and how are they

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Speaker 16: with someone if it makes sense and if he achieves

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Speaker 16: his objectives, which are the non actual kinetic objectives, how

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Speaker 16: do they frame this for him of exactly who in

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Speaker 14: Sir, Well, look, I put I think you put your

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Speaker 14: where all the pieces just keep fighting. Okay, but now

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Speaker 14: you want them to act as a unified whole, and

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Speaker 14: not only is it hard to figure out who that is?

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Speaker 14: But there may not, in fact be agreement inside Iran

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Speaker 14: on who that is. It's not just like we can't

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Speaker 14: figure it out. They don't know either. And then of

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Speaker 14: course you've laid out the Turks to pakistanis I mean,

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Speaker 14: all of these people have their own interests and have history,

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Speaker 14: have a history of being incredibly duplicitous with us saying

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Speaker 16: Very very clearly, hang me to hang on. I want

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Speaker 16: to take a second. I want to take a second

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Speaker 16: because this area was your beat for many decades. I

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Speaker 16: want to go into this because right now they've got

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Speaker 16: one element of the of the the Revolutionary Guard, and

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Speaker 16: I don't know how big this element is.

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Speaker 3: They say they talk for all of them. But it's interesting.

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Speaker 16: They're kind of Trumpion to a degree. They're coming back

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Speaker 16: to President Trump and go get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Who are you? You know you've.

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Speaker 16: Already lost this, you know, I mean, it's interesting how

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Speaker 16: guys that are begging for us to start escorting destroyer,

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Speaker 16: not getting destroyers and escorting any things through there.

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Speaker 3: Don't think they're actually pulling for you.

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Speaker 16: Their business models don't work at Trump's full spectrum energy

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Speaker 16: dominance with a four handle in front of this. And

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Speaker 16: of course there's some folks in West Texas not crazy

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Speaker 16: about forty dollars rol either, But with Trump's idea of

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Speaker 16: Persian golf that signed up for that. They love it

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Speaker 16: at a buck, at a buck forty right at one

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Speaker 16: and how duplicit they've been with us in the region

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Speaker 16: overall for many, many, many decades.

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Speaker 14: Are Look, all of these guys are going to lie

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Speaker 14: got their own interests. They're all going to sit down

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Speaker 14: and swear loyalty and tell you that your brother and

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Speaker 14: all of this, and we're going to drink a lot

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Speaker 14: They're going to walk right out of the room and

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Speaker 14: do exactly the opposite. They never it's not a question

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Speaker 14: of them run nagging on the agreement. The agreement actually

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Speaker 10: At all to them. Right.

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Speaker 14: We have this weird American sense that, Okay, we had

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Speaker 14: not the norm in the Middle East. The norm in

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Speaker 14: the Middle East is we talked and swore that we

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Speaker 14: were each other's brothers, and then you stab me in

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Speaker 14: the back of the second I walk out the door.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I've sat in meetings with the pakistanis where

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Speaker 14: we were going to go raid a terror a safe house.

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Speaker 14: By the time we got to the terror of safe house,

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Speaker 14: get out of dodge. Right, That's that is the norm.

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Speaker 14: So you have to you have to understand that. It

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Speaker 14: doesn't mean you have to be taken advantage of, but

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Speaker 14: you have to force them to come to an agreement.

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Speaker 3: You have to it's you. You can't rely upon their word.

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Speaker 14: You have to rely upon the fact that you put

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Speaker 14: them in a position where they don't have any choice.

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Speaker 14: One of the critical issues obviously here is your human intelligence.

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Speaker 14: When you're sitting in the room with the shake, and

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Speaker 14: need is the guy in the sheik's office who tells

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Speaker 14: you what was the meeting that they had before they

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Speaker 14: what he really intends to do, And then of course

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Speaker 14: the same guy can tell you afterward what they did.

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Speaker 14: That comes down to human intel. You know, you can't

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Speaker 14: see that with a satellite. You're probably not going to

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Speaker 14: pick that up in an intercept because the shake's not

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Speaker 14: so stupid. He's talking over a phone about it. And

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know my position on that, our human

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Speaker 14: intelligence is really really weak. We don't have the guys

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Speaker 14: we need inside there telling us Okay, great, this is

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Speaker 14: what he's going to say, and this is what's really

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Speaker 16: You are you would counsel. I don't want to put

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Speaker 16: words in your mouth, but let me just respond this.

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Speaker 16: You would cancel counsel. Then the president if you were

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Speaker 3: Now that the president.

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Speaker 16: Feels he's completed, are near completion some of the most

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Speaker 16: important military objectives of this military operation, you would counsel

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Speaker 16: Arabian Sea or.

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Speaker 3: Gulf of Omans.

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Speaker 16: Let's get a brigade of the eighty second Airborn, and

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Speaker 16: maybe we bring in a couple of three other assets.

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Speaker 16: Because the only thing they're going to respond to is

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Speaker 16: the hammer. If they if they know we got the hammer,

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Speaker 16: and we're prepared to use the hammer, whatever that is.

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Speaker 16: And I'm far from advocating ground troops, but whatever that

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Speaker 16: hammer is, that's the way. It's like a come along,

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Speaker 16: That's that's the way you get their attention and keep

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Speaker 16: them to basically, maybe get to a position of a deal,

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Speaker 16: Identify first off, who can actually make a deal, get

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Speaker 16: to a deal, and then make sure that you have

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Speaker 16: something that you can actually execute upon.

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Speaker 14: Sir, I would I would recommend all of those things, although,

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Speaker 14: like you, my strong preference would be that we not

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Speaker 14: go down this road to use ground troops. There are

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Speaker 14: lots of other levers we have Let's keep in mind,

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Speaker 14: whether we take Carguy islander, don't take car guy owned.

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Speaker 14: The Iranians will never export another barrel of oil. As

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Speaker 14: long as the United States Navy sits outside the Gulf

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Speaker 14: of Hormos. They run around up in the Persian golf

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Speaker 14: all they want. They're not going anywhere, so we can

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Speaker 14: counsel them and look, and they effectively cannot challenge us

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Speaker 14: in the high seas.

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Speaker 10: So that's that's baseline.

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Speaker 14: But listen, I mean, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 14: make this sound like I'm the only guy who's ever

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Speaker 14: done this, but like in the run up to the

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Speaker 14: Iraq War, whom we were leaning on.

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Speaker 3: Guys to pick a side or the other.

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Speaker 14: At some point in those negotiations, talking to Lieuchenant General

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Speaker 14: whoever it is, we're saying, look, we're prepared to do

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Speaker 14: the following for you, hand U X number of dollars

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Speaker 14: and so forth, and the other side of the coin

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Speaker 14: is general, if you don't come over to our side,

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Speaker 14: we're also prepared to put a jdam through the building

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Speaker 14: and have it where you work and have it explode

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Speaker 14: on your desk. So let's pick a side here. I mean,

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Speaker 14: at some point you. I mean, you have to have that.

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Speaker 3: Hammer in your hand.

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Speaker 14: We run around the Middle East just asking people to

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Speaker 14: be nice to you and is a losing proposition.

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Speaker 10: You will just be eaten alive over there.

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Speaker 16: Speaking of being nice to you, you know the thing

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Speaker 16: I've advocated for you. You can blockade quarantine. There's no

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Speaker 16: reason for the CCP to get there's no reason for

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Speaker 16: them to get any cash.

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Speaker 3: And Sam's one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 16: Just in the Gulf of Oman, or even pull it

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Speaker 16: back to the North Arabian Sea. The United States Navy

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Speaker 16: can stop can quarantine, just like they were doing in Venezuela.

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Speaker 16: You can stop any vessels coming out there and either

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Speaker 16: turn it around or just seize it. Hey, guess what

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Speaker 16: this is ours? Crews under arrest. Gonna put a couple

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Speaker 16: of warrant officers on. Here is the commanding officers, and

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Speaker 16: you're gonna pull it over here and drop anchor.

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Speaker 3: This is ours, okay.

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Speaker 16: Also, in addition, and i'd love your comments, we're gonna

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Speaker 16: hold you to the brake, Sam d Bui. Everybody's runing

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Speaker 16: around in influencers and to bay and you get them

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Speaker 16: all they run around bikinis and there you know, it's

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Speaker 16: everybody in the world's greatest place in the world, and

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Speaker 16: all these Westerns want to buy place in Dubai. Man,

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Speaker 16: it's the new Switzerland. It is so fantastic. Maybe not

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Speaker 16: that fantastic this week, but it's a pirate cove. It's

723
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Speaker 16: like Tortuga was during the during when when the Pirates,

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Speaker 16: when the Pirates down on the Caribbean, not the movie

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Speaker 16: when the Captain Morgan and those guys told the most

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Speaker 16: powerful instrument.

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Speaker 3: In the world, the Royal Navy.

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Speaker 16: Hey put it where the sun don't shine. They had

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Speaker 16: a place to have to monetize everything they stole, right,

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Speaker 16: that was in Tortuga. Dubai is nothing but a modern Tortuga.

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Speaker 16: And people should know our greatest ally over the guy

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Speaker 16: that really steps up and punches above his way. He

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Speaker 16: has always been MBZ right, he's kind of a warrior anyway, one.

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Speaker 3: Of these desert warriors.

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Speaker 16: He's always been the guy and he's I think personally,

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Speaker 16: I think people's pretty common knowledge. President Trump likes to

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Speaker 16: cut his jib and he's over. But they also sell

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Speaker 16: us out all the time. I think you know they

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Speaker 16: had they were cutting a deal for the Chinese Comers

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Speaker 16: Party have.

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Speaker 3: A port there. But I digress. But he's kind of

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Speaker 3: in charge now of all that Emeralds.

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Speaker 16: They haven't cut the money off. They're threatening that, but

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Speaker 16: but the Iran still does all their money laundry and

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Speaker 16: gets their cash from the behind the scenes sanctions through

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Speaker 16: Dubai and through the banks that the Arab's control, these

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Speaker 16: kind of Islamic financial institutions.

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Speaker 3: Samuel gonna hold you to come back.

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Speaker 16: But my point is there's so many different elements and

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Speaker 16: touch points that if we're serious, we can clamp down

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Speaker 16: on these guys and actually force use them as a

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Speaker 16: forcing function. First off, their money and their oil, because

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Speaker 16: the oil is just what they're going to turn to cash.

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Speaker 16: You could squeeze them so hard that you force to

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Speaker 16: the top the cream of the crap. And then President

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Speaker 16: Trump knows who he has to deal with. Short break

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Speaker 16: Fatus on the other.

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Speaker 9: Side, for the word of the hot Kom, we will

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Speaker 9: fight till the rock God, we rejoice most down. Confuse

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Speaker 9: your host, Stephen k.

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Speaker 16: Okay eight four or five War Room, write that down chapters.

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Speaker 16: If you find medicare confusing, of course you do. Nobody

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Speaker 16: can understand this. And have these consultants, advisors they're actually

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Speaker 16: working for the insurance companies. It's one hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 16: of fees a year. That's why it's one of the

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Speaker 16: reasons is so confusing. They want to be confusing. Call

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Speaker 16: Chapters right now. New company based on data that looks

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Speaker 16: at every different alternative you've gotten. We already know the

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Speaker 16: war and posse. We just start with these folks a

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Speaker 16: couple of weeks ago or last week. Overwhelming response from

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Speaker 16: the war and Posse. It's totally free. So you go

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Speaker 16: and check it out. See what they can do for you.

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Speaker 16: I think on average to're saving people about one thousand

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Speaker 16: eleven bucks. Chapters eight four or five war Room. Talk

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Speaker 16: to one of their advisors right now. Even if you've

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Speaker 16: already signed up for a plan, you're wrapped around the axle.

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Speaker 16: You are not call Chapters today eight four five war Room.

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Speaker 3: Check it out. See what you think.

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Speaker 16: The head of the company started the company is a

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Speaker 16: data guy. Tech guy started the company because mom hired

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Speaker 16: one of these consultants and got into one of these

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Speaker 16: plans that hey keeps ratching up and nothing you can

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Speaker 16: do about it, and she was pulling her hair out,

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Speaker 16: turned to her beloved son, Guess what he started a

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Speaker 16: company and the cavalry arrived eight four five War room.

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Speaker 3: Do it today? Check that out totally free.

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Speaker 16: Sam Fattus, I think there's breaking news now coming across

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Speaker 16: the wire and.

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Speaker 3: Iran rejectuous war proposal.

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Speaker 16: Iran sets five strict conditions, no talks, unlist all full

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Speaker 16: cease fire, no future war guarantees, reparations demanded into all

792
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Speaker 16: regional conflicts, control over straight of horror moves.

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Speaker 3: We say in the deal business, folks, the bid in

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Speaker 3: the ask. There's a little gap.

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Speaker 16: I don't even know if these guys are jit it

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Speaker 16: is coming across the wire. It may be that mouthy

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00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 16: young guy that came on on the video and who

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Speaker 16: knows if he's got any stroke. But you can see

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Speaker 16: from President Drump's fifteen points to what they're talking about,

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Speaker 16: because that is like this war never took place.

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Speaker 3: Sam, your thoughts, sir.

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Speaker 14: Tell them that they're all unacceptable and they can go

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Speaker 14: to hell. I mean, look, I think it's pretty clear

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Speaker 14: that I have reservations about how we got to this

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Speaker 14: point in time. But that does that's fine, Okay, that's

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Speaker 14: water over the dam. We're here, We're in this conflict

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Speaker 14: and we cannot possibly conclude this conflict by effectively surrendering

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Speaker 14: to the Iranians and giving into these absurd demands. So,

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know what they need to hear is

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Speaker 14: that that we're not even dignified. We're not talking about that,

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Speaker 14: We're not negotiating from that position. Grow up, get a grip.

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Speaker 14: You know, if if we have to dig in for

813
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Speaker 14: the long haul and blockade you and seal you off

814
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Speaker 14: and and crush you over time, then that's what will happen.

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Speaker 14: That's we are not ending this war under those terms.

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Speaker 14: We're not even talking about those terms.

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Speaker 16: This is I think so important. Let's put a sign

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Speaker 16: and put a pin in how we got here. We

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Speaker 16: keep saying this, we're in it now.

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Speaker 3: You have young American men and women.

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Speaker 16: You've got two Marine Expeditionary units and you got to

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Speaker 16: you got the Ready Response Brigade at the beginning of

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Speaker 16: potential combat troops. You've got kids on those ships, in

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Speaker 16: the airplane and the in the the airmen. What they're

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Speaker 16: doing is amazing. We already lost a tanker. You could

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Speaker 16: lose a lot more kids. We got to win this thing.

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Speaker 16: That victory is there's no substitute for victory. And look

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Speaker 16: even with an off ramp. You got to get You've

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Speaker 16: got to get the demands that you're demanding that you

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Speaker 16: started this with on your objectives.

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Speaker 3: And so this is going to be as a bout.

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Speaker 16: A high pressures can because the market's going to go crazy,

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Speaker 16: right there's going to have an economic impact. You don't

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Speaker 16: really have any allies over there. You've got Israel, our

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Speaker 16: world's greatest ally, is now getting ready for a major combat,

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Speaker 16: major combat. You know Nenya who sees this as I say,

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Speaker 16: the last reel of Godfather one right where he's taking

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Speaker 16: them all out there getting ready to go pound Lebanon.

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Speaker 16: For a minute, he's not exactly listening up to hey,

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Speaker 16: we'd like to tone this thing down right now, he's revving up.

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Speaker 16: And then you don't have There's nobody in the Gulf

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Speaker 16: that is your ally. Turkey's not your ally, the Pakistani's

843
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Speaker 16: are not your ally.

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Speaker 3: These are not good people, and particularly the Darwinian.

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Speaker 16: You know, the good people ain't at the top because

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Speaker 16: to get to the top, you've got to be a killer.

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Speaker 3: I say that metaphorically as President Trump would say.

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Speaker 16: So we're in it now, and it's only going to

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Speaker 16: get nastier and gnarlier, and I think if you got

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Speaker 16: the president's back, you're going to have to have his

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Speaker 16: back and put your trust him. And that's why I

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Speaker 16: say it's got the weight of the world on his

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Speaker 16: shoulders right now, and it's going to get even tougher

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Speaker 16: as we grind through it. And you can see what's

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Speaker 16: just happened in the last forty eight hours. That's why

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Speaker 16: our magnificent military they're in harm's way. And look, these

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Speaker 16: kids signed up for it, so it's not like they're

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Speaker 16: not whining. They said, this is what we signed up

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Speaker 16: to do, We're here to do it, and they will

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Speaker 16: execute magnificently as they have always done. Sam Fattus, any

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Speaker 16: closing observations where I let your punch, No.

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Speaker 10: I agree wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 14: Look, you're people confuse the concept of ally with somehow

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Speaker 14: or another. That means that our interests are perfectly aligned

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Speaker 14: that at all times you can completely trust these guys.

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Speaker 14: I mean, come on, when I talk about family, man,

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Speaker 14: we're talking about we have some interest that align in

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Speaker 14: some places. Some of the time, they will also stab

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Speaker 14: you in the back, so you better look out for yourself.

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Speaker 14: You cannot survive in the Middle East on trust there

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Speaker 14: is no such concept.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 16: Where do people go to get your on substack, get

874
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Speaker 16: that great magazine you.

875
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Speaker 3: Put up in these great articles you put up.

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Speaker 14: And magazine dot substack dot com, an d magazine dot

877
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Speaker 14: substack dot com.

878
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, sir.

879
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Speaker 16: Why do we start with Bowling and Sam Fattish Fattus

880
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 16: spent his career over there in service to his nation.

881
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 16: Bowling's been in the pits, was a trader every day

882
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 16: for I think twelve fourteen years. That's the kind of

883
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 16: reality you need, this audience needs as you think it through.

884
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 16: I'm not sitting here saying you got to think it

885
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 16: one way or the other. Understand, we're in it now.

886
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 16: What is that great scene in twelve o'clocky when Gregory

887
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Speaker 16: Peck is the general that replaces the original general who

888
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 16: really loved his troops and the troops loved him.

889
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: He gets up there and says, hey, I'm not here

890
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Speaker 3: to hear your this is the beginning days of World

891
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Speaker 3: War two.

892
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Speaker 16: He says, I'm not here to listen to you. Why

893
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 16: we fight, That's not our business. I'm here to tell

894
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 16: you we're in this fight and we've got to win it.

895
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: That's all I'm interested in.

896
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Speaker 16: There is no substitute for victory as we're in it now.

897
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Speaker 3: Just understand it's gonna get really, really really ugly. Just

898
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Speaker 3: abod anybody telling you otherwise. All these people going fox

899
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Speaker 3: blowing smoke up you.

900
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Speaker 16: They ain't out on that front line, and they ain't

901
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Speaker 16: got kids out there either.

902
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: They have no skin in the game.

903
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Speaker 16: Zero Okay, stick around second hour of the war. Room

904
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Speaker 16: is just around the corner, one hundred and twenty seconds away.

905
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Speaker 3: Back in the moment.

906
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Speaker 9: You know you still need help, you from the boss.

907
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 9: You need help from the boss.