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Speaker 1: It's time you start listening to information and tips from

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Speaker 1: successful people. My next guest is a successful person who's

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Speaker 1: made to transition athlete to entrepreneur. You hear so many

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Speaker 1: hard stories about athlete. Not Lawrence Sidbury Junr. A former

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Speaker 1: He graduated from Richmond University in Richmond, Virginia, and was

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Speaker 1: part of that famed two thousand and eight National Championship team.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is on, I think that team was undefeated. To

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Speaker 1: money making Conversations. Lawrence Sidbury Junior. How you doing, my friend,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for having me. Now, not Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: that team that you want, the two thousand eight National

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Speaker 1: school history. Right now, I hear that a lot in sports,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna start with these scholars first, and we're

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Speaker 1: you know you're a planner and your goal setting, you

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Speaker 1: will get there. But I know that about you. Now

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Speaker 1: you're playing football, you're tackling people. You got that, you

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Speaker 1: got that little spin that you came up Will tell

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Speaker 1: us about that A little A little spin that you

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Speaker 1: came up with? Did you are you developing it? You

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Speaker 1: don't know what? You don't know what I actually I

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Speaker 1: have with us have a little football conversation. So like

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Speaker 1: my head coach at the time, Mike dunder Um, He's like, man,

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Speaker 1: the scouts looking, they know you fast, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get around the edge. You need to

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Speaker 1: kind of moves. Like damn, I'm sitting there thinking what

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Speaker 1: can I work at the time. You know, one of

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Speaker 1: them two of my favorite rushers at the time. Actually

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Speaker 1: I got to play with one of them, White Freenie

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Speaker 1: and Robert Out. Everyone knows if you watch any of that,

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Speaker 1: this coach coming out guys had this. I was in

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Speaker 1: college at the time, so I was like, damn, maybe

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Speaker 1: I can do that one day in practice. I just

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Speaker 1: I just tried and they work and after that, it

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Speaker 1: just that's that's the move I went to when I

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Speaker 1: was in school. Well, you know, you know, you make

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Speaker 1: me sick, Lauren. You you're so you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: tell the truth about how talent that you are. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was just just practice and that's really high.

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Speaker 1: But you were the fastest defensive end and come back, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know you you you you just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a whole lot of people wish they

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Speaker 1: could just do a spin move and go to a cornerback. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll stop running back. So you we're gonna, we're gonna,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a relationship because what I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: you just start doing. Man, is it's all right to

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Speaker 1: be prime time. It's all right. You know you know

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Speaker 1: what they know, they're saying church favor. I guess thank

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Speaker 1: God for that. So so so you got, you got

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Speaker 1: the moves. You know, you're a man, you're a young man.

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Speaker 1: And Atlanta, you know, Atlanta is a great capital, a

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Speaker 1: city for African American men and women. When did you

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Speaker 1: make the decision? Man? Like you said, you thought the process,

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Speaker 1: you knew you weren't gonna play. But the business that

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Speaker 1: you're doing, now, how did that come about? Actually it

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Speaker 1: started in covid Um. You know, before I got out

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Speaker 1: the league, I was already started an investments in real estate,

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Speaker 1: actually living in some properties back in Maryland while where

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Speaker 1: I'm from, and uh, you know, I had a deal

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Speaker 1: go south. I was gonna do my first project here

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Speaker 1: in southwest Atlanta. And you know what, everything shut shut

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Speaker 1: down like nobody basically by the calendar year from from today.

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Speaker 1: You know, the real estate market is doing well now,

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Speaker 1: but everyone was not. Everyone was certain how things will

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Speaker 1: go about the banks pulling funder. The bank guy was

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Speaker 1: dealing with they pulled a fund and they put the

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Speaker 1: funding on the new construction project. I had, so what's that.

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Speaker 1: I kind of had my back nest the wall, but

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Speaker 1: I just knew it. I had to do something. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: something catastrophic was to happen again, I'll be in in

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Speaker 1: a central industry and I can continue to make money.

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Speaker 1: And prior to that, I had spoken to a college

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Speaker 1: teammate who would just jump into the transportation industry. Maybe

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Speaker 1: bout a year ago. I just met which is now

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Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. Uh, probably about a month before,

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Speaker 1: and I took the information that they both gave me.

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Speaker 1: I put it together and I started Clipper Logistics, And man,

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Speaker 1: it's been It's been probably the biggest blessing in my life.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been able to employ people. I

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Speaker 1: just just grow to the point I just hired an assistant. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to give a black of people jobs. Man.

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Speaker 1: I can't say enough. Man, just it's been the best

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Speaker 1: thing that happened to me. It's a scalable business and

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Speaker 1: still be able to provide opportunity. So it's just a

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Speaker 1: win win all the way around. Okay, I again, Clipper Logistics.

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Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Again? I always have coming

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Speaker 1: up with names. I just I didn't want to use

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Speaker 1: my name. It's like it's typical and I kind of

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Speaker 1: want to detach myself under business a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: the clippers Clippers is actually my high school mascot my hospital.

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Speaker 1: We were the Ox and Hill Clippers. So I said

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Speaker 1: Clipper Logistics, and it just it just went, so I

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Speaker 1: went with it. Always fall I always fall into the

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Speaker 1: names of the never you know you're about to get

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Speaker 1: beat up by masterp. Okay, then you went back to

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Speaker 1: your high school got and stole the clippers. Second generation.

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Speaker 1: That's that's another one of your business, correct, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the LC I run. Uh you know my real

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Speaker 1: estate projects too. That was pretty simple, right. My parents,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, they probably the first people in our

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Speaker 1: family kind of start you know, owning properties, right, and

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Speaker 1: uh I came back to them. So second generation development,

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Speaker 1: that one was. That was pretty easy. I knew the

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Speaker 1: name of that one before before I got started. I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't take there's truly the name about you because your

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Speaker 1: second generation. Right. I love it. I love it, Lawrence. Man.

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Speaker 1: You uh, you're humble, You're absolutely correct about them. You're talented,

527
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Speaker 1: you want don't want to admit that, you're very smart.

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Speaker 1: Somehow you don't want to admit that. And guess what,

529
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Speaker 1: you're special and somehow you don't want admit that. But

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Speaker 1: all those things I just said, man, makes you in

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Speaker 1: an incredible brand. And please, man, start telling people about

532
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Speaker 1: that man in your social media post and let everybody

533
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Speaker 1: understand how you're shining in the pandemic times in African American. Man,

534
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Speaker 1: there's a doing it and paying taxes out there and

535
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Speaker 1: making the difference in this country, not only for your life,

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Speaker 1: for people that you don't know. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the blessing that you are. I appreciate. I really do. Hey, brother,

538
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Speaker 1: looking at it. Man. I had to get back on

539
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Speaker 1: with you, man, because you know, the thing about you,

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is that man. Um. You know, when I meet

541
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Speaker 1: people like you, Man, it's a blessing to me to

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Speaker 1: be even had this conversation. But the gifts that I have,

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Speaker 1: the Guard gave me was to be able to motivate

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Speaker 1: people also tell the truth. And so when I talk

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Speaker 1: to you about your gifts and talk to you about

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm just asking you to take one

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Speaker 1: more step, and the next step is about you and

548
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: when you tart telling your story. And that's what we're

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Speaker 1: doing today. Hey man, I'm going I'm in the way

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Speaker 1: back machine. You gotta be going way back to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, because, man, you have a career that's

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Speaker 1: worth telling you. You've transitioned into a UH academia person

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Speaker 1: and an athlete. Now you're a businessman, you're philanthropist. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of powerful titles. That's a lot of power

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Speaker 1: that you own. Oh And sometimes I really and I

556
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Speaker 1: gotta do better at this. I get caught up and

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Speaker 1: like you said, to grind and trying to build something

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, really to leave you know, after

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Speaker 1: I'm gone, right, And sometimes I'm guilty of not cherishing

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Speaker 1: the moment. Like I'm guilty. I know I've been told that,

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Speaker 1: and I really, honestly, I'm just sitting back a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago, reallything, having this exact same conversation UH

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Speaker 1: with a friend of mine, and sometimes just I just

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Speaker 1: I get so caught up. I just don't I gotta

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Speaker 1: do better. I really gotta do better. I know you appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I appreciative, give me uh the push push push, So

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Speaker 1: I always looky, Laard's call me your life coach. I mean, look,

568
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Speaker 1: you had head coaches, assistant coaching. Rishan McDonald's your life coach.

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Speaker 1: So you go him. I gotta called Mop part Roshan

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Speaker 1: and run this idea by him. I'm gonna tall you

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Speaker 1: go ahead and do it because anything you put your

572
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Speaker 1: mind to from brand, you're gonna be successful at it.

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Speaker 1: And that's the part of your genius. And I'm gona

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Speaker 1: put the word genius on you because layers of success

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Speaker 1: are not accidental in your life. And but you know,

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Speaker 1: you know it's interesting how some people who have less

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Speaker 1: will screamed like they got more. Well, you have more,

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Speaker 1: and you don't say anything by how you're accomplishing that.

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Speaker 1: And I want you to go to the front of

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Speaker 1: the line with that story. All Right, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: it done. We're gonna're gonna rap Autter, we get finished.

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Speaker 1: All right there, Look, your life coach, just foke to you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I wanna thank you Lauren for coming on the show

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Speaker 1: Man telling every about your life, talking about your your career,

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Speaker 1: talking about being an athlete who made the transition from

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Speaker 1: I thank you for coming on Money Make Conversations. I

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