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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: NFL owners meetings going on today and tomorrow. If you

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Speaker 2: go back to two thousand and five, we had, you know,

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Speaker 2: language that outlawed the toush push forever, and why they

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Speaker 2: brought it back I have no idea, and they said

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Speaker 2: it was hard to adjudicate. I was like, okay, how

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Speaker 2: about we just come up with language. Can you come

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Speaker 2: up with language? You know the problem is with the NFL,

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Speaker 2: they add more language, they don't take it away. And

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you started to hear that, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is unfair, this isn't a football play. And then

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Speaker 2: I go, okay, well, which team is going to have

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Speaker 2: a proposal to get rid of the touschbush And we

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Speaker 2: found out it was the Green Bay Packers, and we

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Speaker 2: had Matt Lafleur, the Packers head coach. He joined us

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Speaker 2: at the draft and we went back and forth on this,

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Speaker 2: and I think we found out that maybe the Packers

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Speaker 2: were told to have a proposal to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the tush push the brother Lee shove that the Packers

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Speaker 2: came out the guys are at kins. Would you have

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Speaker 2: liked that to have remained? Anonymous that there's a team

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Speaker 2: that it.

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Speaker 3: Is what it is.

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Speaker 4: We might have had some nudging towards that, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not really going to get into that.

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Speaker 2: Did the commissioner say we need somebody to speak up?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that because I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think the commissioner wants this. No can I can I

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Speaker 2: say what I think happened. Sure, okay, I think the

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Speaker 2: commissioner nudged you guys to say, look, if you have

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Speaker 2: a grievance, put your name to it.

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Speaker 5: I'll owe you one.

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Speaker 2: And because I don't think he wants that play to

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Speaker 2: stay in the game.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not a great football play.

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Speaker 4: And then certainly when you look at what happened in

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Speaker 4: the Washington Commander game where Frankie Loeuver was launching over

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Speaker 4: the top, which I mean it's a tough play to stop.

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Speaker 3: We've actually had more success.

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Speaker 4: You had some studies ran We've had more success with

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Speaker 4: a traditional quarterback sneak than we have with you know

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Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, brother show.

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Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia is still going to be dominating with

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Speaker 2: the quarterback sneak. I agree because of that line in

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Speaker 2: that quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they do a great job and I mean

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts can squat the house. So they do a

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Speaker 4: good job of just you know, winn in the line

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Speaker 4: of scrimmage. It all starts right there and they get

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Speaker 4: really low and they've they've perfected it.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind that they were going to vote on

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Speaker 2: this the last time they all got together, and what happened.

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Speaker 5: They tabled it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they tabled it because the commissioner, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: didn't have the votes to get rid of the tush

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Speaker 2: push that's it. And then to say to the packers, hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean Matte Lafleur's basically saying that. They said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to nudge you a little bit, put your

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Speaker 2: name to it, and then you know, maybe down the

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Speaker 2: road you do a solid for the packers in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form. I don't know if it's quid pro quo,

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Speaker 2: but hey, you guys are going to take a little

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Speaker 2: heat because then what happened. All packers can't stop it,

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Speaker 2: so they want to get rid of it. It feels

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Speaker 2: like the packers did the NFL a solid and then

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Speaker 2: put their name to it. I don't know what they

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Speaker 2: get back, but they got the draft. Maybe you get

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Speaker 2: another draft in there somewhere down the road. And from

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Speaker 2: what I was told yesterday that I passed on to

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Speaker 2: you is you got to simplify the language. That was

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Speaker 2: almost the homework assignment by the NFL. Now this is

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Speaker 2: my opinion only from information I have. You know that

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Speaker 2: I was told, and nobody has backed this up. But

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I was told. Simplify the language,

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Speaker 2: and then there's a real chance. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: the NFL doesn't want this play. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: commissioner wants this play because esthetically it's not a great

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Speaker 2: looking play and it's very, very predictable. And I stand

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Speaker 2: by what I said. That offensive line, with that quarterback,

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Speaker 2: they're still going to be unstoppable when it comes to

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Speaker 2: quarterback snakes. They are because he can squat six hundred pounds. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's unheard of, and he's six feet tall. By the

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Speaker 2: time he squats down, he goes forward, quarterback sneak with

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Speaker 2: a little momentum, he's down to about five to five,

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Speaker 2: and then you're just not going to get low and

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Speaker 2: stop them. They will still be extremely successful. Here is

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Speaker 2: the amended rule. It's Rule twelve, Section one, Article four.

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Speaker 2: By the way, So assisting the runner in interlocking interference,

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Speaker 2: No offensive player may push or pull a runner in

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Speaker 2: any direction at any time, or lift him to his feet. Now,

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Speaker 2: they did take out a paragraph here. It's the paragraph

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Speaker 2: that said use interlocking interference by grasping a teammate or

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Speaker 2: by using his hands or arms to encircle the body

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Speaker 2: of a teammate in an effort to block an opponent.

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Speaker 2: Or then they kept this in push or throw his

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Speaker 2: body against a teammate to aid him in an attempt

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Speaker 2: to obstruct an opponent, or recover a loose ball, or

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Speaker 2: assist the runner, except by individually blocking opponents for him.

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Speaker 2: The penalty for doing this is a loss of ten yards.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to do player safety. The problem is they

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Speaker 2: don't have the data. If they had the data, then

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Speaker 2: this would be gone. The problem is that they don't.

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Speaker 2: So they're worried about player safety, but also pace of

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Speaker 2: play and the aesthetic. Now, you don't want this to

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Speaker 2: look like you're singling out the Eagles. That was another

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Speaker 2: thing I was told. I want to do it in

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Speaker 2: a way that feels like it's the league as a whole,

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Speaker 2: not the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Well, we all know it's the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I mean even the Buffalo Bills with his second best

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Speaker 2: at doing this, and what happened in the most important

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Speaker 2: quarterback sneak of their season. Josh Allen got stopped. But

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Speaker 2: that goes back to what I'm saying. Josh Allen is,

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Speaker 2: you know, six' five two. Forty But Jalen hurts with

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Speaker 2: trying to get this play and be, successful is built

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 5: Play Josh allen isn't because he's almost too big of a.

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Speaker 2: Target Jalen hurts will still be, successful and so with

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Speaker 2: The eagles with this. Play but that's going to be

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Speaker 2: a big topic And Albert burer will join us from

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Speaker 2: the owner's. Meetings but why they allowed this to come?

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Speaker 2: BACK i still think there's a simple simplification. Here you're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to be behind the runner and assists the, runner.

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Speaker 5: Period that's.

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Speaker 2: It if you put yourself from that, position we're going

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Speaker 2: to flag you on. It you just know that it's

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Speaker 2: a no, no that's. It or if you want to

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Speaker 2: say anything that is inside the tackles the tackle, box

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Speaker 2: you cannot assist a runner if you want to do

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Speaker 2: it that. Way BUT i would still just say you

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Speaker 2: cannot assist a runner you can't, push you can't, pull

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Speaker 5: Assist that's it. Done and then you let teams.

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Speaker 2: Know you, know you can't crack back block anymore on

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Speaker 2: a punt or a kickoff.

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Speaker 5: Return they know, it so you don't do.

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Speaker 2: It you can't put your, Hands you can't have a

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Speaker 2: three hundred pound lineman Behind Jalen, hurts you can't Have

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Speaker 2: Dallas goddard there pushing him from. Behind you can't do.

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Speaker 2: It that's all you need to. Say can't line up that.

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Speaker 2: Way it's a quarterback. Sneak you. Know the interesting part

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Speaker 2: Is Tom brady was as good at the quarterback sneak

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Speaker 2: as any quarterback in. History And tom's not an imposing,

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Speaker 2: guy not a big, guy not necessarily a great offensive,

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Speaker 2: line but he was so strategic and where he went

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Speaker 5: Ahead but this is.

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Speaker 2: Different you, know the, optics the aesthetics of it don't

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Speaker 2: look good because it looks like a. Scrum it looks like.

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Speaker 2: RUGBY i don't have any problem with. It they figured out,

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Speaker 2: something they mastered. It everybody else has the same opportunity

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Speaker 2: to do, it and you know, what nobody else has come.

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Speaker 5: Close.

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Speaker 2: Now it feels like THE nfl is saying we're going

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Speaker 2: to do this and penalize The Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: Eagles BUT i.

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Speaker 2: Think they're going to get rid of, it because that's

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Speaker 2: why they tabled it in the first.

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Speaker 5: Place chris And. Syracuse, Hi, chris what's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Today?

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Speaker 7: Hey thank?

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Speaker 8: You?

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Speaker 7: Dan, HEY i wanted to get in AND i just

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Speaker 7: wanted to make sure to wish you guys good luck.

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Speaker 7: Tonight AND i think you're going to get off the

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Speaker 7: snide lucky number, sleven make that, Seven so good. Luck

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Speaker 7: so long as you're talking about the push push a couple,

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Speaker 7: COMMENTS i totally agree with. You you, know the commissioner

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Speaker 7: has come out and he says there's no, data but

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Speaker 7: their doctors feel that there's a high probability of catastrophic

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Speaker 7: injury on the. Play, now you could say that on

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Speaker 7: any play in THE, Nfl AND i think you're. Right

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Speaker 7: he wants it. Out he thinks it's a boring play

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Speaker 7: and he'd much rather have teams on third and one

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Speaker 7: again to your, Point philly's not going to miss a.

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Speaker 7: BEAT i read something where three or four years ago

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Speaker 7: they did a survey back or a study back to

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Speaker 7: nineteen eighty five where third and one and fourth and

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Speaker 7: ONE qb sneaks are successful eighty eight percent of the.

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Speaker 7: Time and as you said With Jalen, hurts that they're

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Speaker 7: going to they won't miss a. Beat And, dan it's

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Speaker 7: funny WHENEVER i hear the term push, PUSH i don't know.

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Speaker 7: WHY i always think of The Ice bowl when Bart

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Speaker 7: starr on fourth and goal at the one won the

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Speaker 7: championship by A qb. Sneak AND i Saw Jim taylor

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Speaker 7: once had a. Documentary he was narrating it and he'd

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Speaker 7: point it out that the first three times he got

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Speaker 7: bartstar figured out was falling and get it and he

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Speaker 7: won the. Championship And Jim taylor Said Vince lombardi and

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Speaker 7: Bart starr were the only two that knew it was

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Speaker 7: going to be quarterback. Sneak everybody Thought taylor was going

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Speaker 7: to get the ball, again including, him and he said

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Speaker 7: he was going full. Board his momentum took him right

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Speaker 7: Into bartstar's. Button he couldn't stop because of the. Ice

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Speaker 7: and he said that iconic photo Of taylor with his

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Speaker 7: touchdown he won the, championship but he was saying he

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Speaker 7: wanted the official to know because he knew would be a.

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Speaker 7: PENALTY i am not pushing them. In there is no

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Speaker 5: Here thank, You, Chris andrew And. Washington Hi, andrew.

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Speaker 3: Good, Morning.

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Speaker 9: Daandnnett thanks for taking my. Call good luck tonight as.

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Speaker 9: WELL i do think this is lucky number seven for,

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Speaker 9: you so you guys will be walking away with trophy too.

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Speaker 9: Common you know yesterday you Said giannest to The Cleveland.

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Speaker 9: CALVES i agree with. THAT i just think that he

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Speaker 9: might be better with A Darius garland complimentary guard sor

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Speaker 9: Like Drew, holiday instead of A Donovan, Mitchell Dane lillard

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Speaker 9: type of guard where they're more ball. DOMINANT i think

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Speaker 9: that would be a very successful team that could get

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Speaker 9: rid Of Jared, allen, Keep Evan, Mobley Darius, garland And Joannis.

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Speaker 9: Antetokumpo also, yesterday thanks for Having tony really. On that

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Speaker 2: Pastorini, Dante, Yeah Dan, Pastorini Dante. Pastorini let me see

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Speaker 2: walk In. Chicago, Hey, walk what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Dan i'm just, wondering if THE nfl were to adopt

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Speaker 5: Whole tush push, thing would you make the play?

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Speaker 8: Reviewable?

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Speaker 2: Sure ALL i care about, is you, know we talk

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Speaker 2: about reviewable. Now it used to be instant, replay and

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Speaker 2: it's replay now it's. Reviewable like we keep changing the.

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Speaker 2: LANGUAGE i want the game to move at a steady.

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Speaker 2: to make sure if you're taking away something that's esthetically,

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Speaker 5: Fashion, Yes, PAULINE.

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Speaker 10: I saw an article From Sports Business journal a few

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Speaker 2: Because we get to see these replays and then it

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Speaker 2: in a timely. Fashion, yes if it means you can

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Speaker 2: Mind you can't sort of, go, hey you, know we

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Speaker 5: Play you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's just, like get the batter in the batter's,

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Speaker 2: okay what's the headline? Today what's the headline going to

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Speaker 6: Meetings, well today it's going to be The.

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Speaker 14: Olympics tomorrow it'll be what happens with the toush push

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Speaker 6: There you, know as you Know, dan like football is

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Speaker 14: Export you, know if you're trying to get kids overseas,

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Speaker 6: And roll out the balls and and and and teach.

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Speaker 14: Push they've been pretty aggressive and.

437
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Speaker 6: Fighting, it you.

438
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Speaker 14: KNOW I Howie roseman stood up at the owners meeting

439
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Speaker 14: In march and basically said, that, well, like if you

440
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Speaker 14: say this is such a dangerous, PLAY i want to

441
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 14: see the injury, data and there really isn't injury.

442
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Speaker 6: Data and what the.

443
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Speaker 14: Chief meta officer THE nfl said to the room, was

444
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 14: we haven't had major, injuries but when we have one

445
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Speaker 14: based on the posture of the quarterback on this.

446
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Speaker 6: Play it's going to be.

447
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 14: Catastrophic and it's interesting because that's one, argument and then

448
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 14: teams that are for banning, it it's a different.

449
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 6: Argument it's it's not a football, play it's a rugby. Play, so.

450
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 14: You, know like The eagles have been steadfast and feeling

451
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 14: like they're being targeted here and feeling like this is

452
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 14: only an issue because they've gotten so good at, it

453
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 14: and they think it's a bad precedent for the league

454
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 14: to set when one team gets really good at one

455
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 14: thing and it's deemed unfair that now you, can you,

456
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 14: know find a way to get it taken out of the.

457
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 14: Game at the same, time if you go back to

458
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 14: two thousand and, four there was a rule in the

459
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Speaker 14: books that prevented all pushing and pulling of offensive, teammates

460
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Speaker 14: and that got repealed for reasons that had nothing to

461
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Speaker 14: do with What philly's. Doing the reason why was because

462
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 14: downfield blocks have become harder to officiate and delineating whether or,

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 14: not you, know an offensive player was blocking a defender

464
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 14: or pushing his own teammate, across you, know aligned to

465
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Speaker 14: gain the goal line.

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Speaker 6: Whatever so it's. Complicated there's a lot that's going into.

467
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Speaker 7: It.

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Speaker 14: Again The eagles were vocal In, march and they've certainly you,

469
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 14: know been on the phones over the last few days

470
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 14: too and trying to make their case to other teams

471
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Speaker 14: that'll be voting.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow let me go back to The, olympics BECAUSE i

473
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Speaker 2: said THAT i get what THE nfl. Wants they want,

474
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Speaker 2: expansion and they're not going to do expansion where you're

475
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Speaker 2: playing pro football around the country or around the world

476
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Speaker 2: and HAVING nfl teams in different. Cities how you grow,

477
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Speaker 2: Football you grow football with flag football because all you

478
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: need is really a. Football then you, know a field

479
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: to play. On they want to compete with, soccer you, know,

480
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: globally they want to compete with. Basketball globally you get

481
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Speaker 2: boys and girls. Playing i'm all for all of, that varsity,

482
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Speaker 2: sport all for. THAT i just don't get the gimmick

483
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: of we got one player who will represent TEAM, usa

484
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: who's AN nfl player who.

485
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Speaker 14: Cares, Yeah AND i don't, KNOW i, mean And I'm

486
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Speaker 14: i'm skeptical that it's gonna even like work that.

487
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Speaker 6: Way CAN i tell you a personal story having this one?

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Speaker 6: Day and? Sure, so back WHEN i was in college

489
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Speaker 6: At Ohio.

490
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Speaker 14: State we were in a fraternity league and we had

491
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Speaker 14: a bunch of us played high school, football and we

492
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Speaker 14: wound up winning our fraternity, league, Right and we won

493
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Speaker 14: our fraternity league by playing you, know like we're running football.

494
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Speaker 14: Plays so then you, know we kind of like we're, like,

495
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Speaker 14: well what? Happened what would happen if we entered this

496
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Speaker 14: Like Nike elite?

497
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Speaker 6: League? Right and so we got our freaking doors blown

498
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Speaker 6: off playing in This Nike elite.

499
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Speaker 14: League and what we found out and doing that was

500
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Speaker 14: like like this flag, League like it wasn't like, Football

501
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 14: it was a different sport. Altogether there were laterals and

502
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 14: pitches and it was and it had nothing to do with.

503
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Speaker 14: Size and it's just like it like it's a it's

504
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 14: a different thing altogether if you're really doing. It so you,

505
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 14: know LIKE i understand the concept of PUTTING nfl players out,

506
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 14: THERE i just wonder if the juice is worth the,

507
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 14: squeeze you know WHAT i, Mean, Like, okay so you

508
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 14: get a little more attention on it by PUTTING nfl

509
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 14: players out, there but are they the best players in the.

510
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Speaker 6: World it's that specific.

511
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Speaker 14: Thing if you're giving people five years to train for,

512
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 14: this are you saying like AN nfl player will be ready.

513
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 6: In a month to go and.

514
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Speaker 14: Compete and If i'm a, team LIKE i look at

515
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Speaker 14: that and, say, like that's when a guy's getting ready

516
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Speaker 14: for a training. Camp so instead of you, know getting

517
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Speaker 14: ready for the riggers of AN nfl, season he's going

518
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Speaker 14: to be doing something completely different than preparing for tackle.

519
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Speaker 14: FOOTBALL I it's just it's complicated for all of those.

520
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 14: Reasons AND i think the risk here would be are

521
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Speaker 14: you just turning this.

522
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Speaker 6: Into a freak? Show you know WHAT i?

523
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Speaker 14: Mean like it's just like, okay like come watch the

524
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Speaker 14: come watch the two hundred fifty pounds tight, end go

525
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 14: out and and play against a bunch of one hundred

526
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Speaker 14: and eighty pound guys From.

527
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Speaker 6: France you know WHAT i, Mean, like is that what

528
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 6: we're doing?

529
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 14: Here and is that good for the long term viability

530
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Speaker 14: of flag football as a?

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Speaker 6: SPORT i don't.

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Speaker 14: KNOW i think those are all questions that are, worthy

533
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 14: AND i don't know one way or the. Other i'm

534
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 14: not SAYING i have all the, answers BUT i think

535
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 14: those are all viable.

536
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: Questions Talking Albert breer The monday morning quarterback joining us

537
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: from the owners, meetings The rock party, contract a lot

538
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Speaker 2: of times we get the final number and we go,

539
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: wow but then you break it down and you get guaranteed.

540
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: MONEY i know there's no trade clause in. There what

541
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: was the strategy on both sides here to get to this?

542
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 14: Number SO i think there were there were three clamps

543
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 14: that they were working off, of you, know because the

544
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 14: one thing that The niners established right away is we're

545
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 14: not going to be breaking records, here like that's that.

546
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 6: Can't be the goal of this.

547
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 14: Negotiation and, so you, know party side then basically came

548
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 14: back at them and, said, okay well then we need strong.

549
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 14: Guarants we need strong, structure you, know as a guy

550
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 14: who was once mister, irrelevant and you know with The

551
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 14: niners history of being able to win with different, QUARTERBACKS

552
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 14: i think what what Brock perdy really wanted here was, affirmation,

553
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 14: like you, know this contract shows That i'm going to

554
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 14: be your guy for the foreseeable future and there aren't

555
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 14: like all these trap doors that will allow for you

556
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 14: to get out of the. Contract and, so you, know

557
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 14: the three comps that they had worked off of Were

558
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 14: Jalen hurts TWO a tongue Of, aloa And Jared. Goff

559
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 14: AND i think the one that they came closest with Was.

560
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 14: Goff where you, have you, know a team that's a

561
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 14: winning team In, detroit where you have a quarterback who's

562
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 14: a really good, player who's got a lot of good

563
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 14: players around, him and you, know the quarterback in that,

564
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 14: Case Jared goff in that case wasn't consumed without getting

565
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 14: every taking.

566
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 6: Every dollar off the.

567
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 14: Table but you, know he wanted to know that he

568
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 14: was going to be The lions quarterback going. Forward and

569
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Speaker 14: SO i think that those were the CONSTANT i think

570
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 14: when you look at, it you, know when the full

571
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 14: details come, out we'll. See my sense is that like

572
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 14: about one hundred and seventy six million is going to

573
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 14: be virtually, guaranteed and this contract will reflect you can

574
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 14: bank on Broad party being the quarterback for the next four,

575
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 14: years so twenty twenty five through twenty twenty. Eight so

576
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 14: The niners do a deal that in this environment is

577
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 14: reasonable at at at fifty three million dollars per, year

578
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 14: And party gets.

579
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: His assurances that he's going to be their guy going.

580
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: Forward should we extract anything more than what we probably

581
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: already have With Caleb williams and his father and the

582
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: story that's coming out that they were going to try

583
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: to blow up the draft because he didn't want to

584
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: go to The Chicago.

585
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Speaker 6: Bears, yeah two.

586
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 14: Things Number, ONE i would say it's a tough look

587
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 14: For mattybraflus And Shane waldron and the guys who were

588
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 14: on the staff last. YEAR i mean that it just

589
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 14: it sucks BECAUSE i think for those, guys they're going

590
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 14: to have to answer those questions, now, like, yeah if

591
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 14: they have to interview for another, job what do you

592
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 14: think the first question is going to, be you mean

593
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 14: you didn't we didn't have your quarterback learning how to

594
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 14: watch film what was going on, there you, know so.

595
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: There could be some effect.

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Speaker 14: THERE i don't think it's gonna have an effect in

597
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 14: the new staff Because Ben johnson wasn't.

598
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 6: There for that, obviously you.

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Speaker 14: Know and then the second piece of, IT i think

600
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 14: it's just kind of where we're at with pro athletes right.

601
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 14: Now AND i think it's notable too because we talked

602
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 14: about this With Marvin harrison last, year right, like And

603
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 14: Marvin harrison handled his pre draft process so differently than

604
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 14: almost any other athlete we've, seen and that he very

605
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 14: much limited the teams he was he was gonna he

606
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Speaker 14: was he was he was going to meet with extensively

607
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 14: beyond just the. Combine he didn't take a physical at the,

608
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 14: combine which was you, know a little out of, whack

609
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Speaker 14: right like as far as a lot OF nfl people saw.

610
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Speaker 14: It but he's, like If i'm going to be a

611
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Speaker 14: top five, pick why DO i want to give the

612
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Speaker 14: other twenty seven teams my medical?

613
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Speaker 6: Information and then you, know.

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Speaker 14: He he also like did work out for the larger,

615
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 14: group so and he had asked teams like do you

616
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Speaker 14: need me to work?

617
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 6: Out and they said no to.

618
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Speaker 14: Him and really the overarching thing With marvin there was

619
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Speaker 14: he handled the entire thing like a business. Proposition why

620
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Speaker 14: is that relevant With marvin And Caleb, Williams, well because they.

621
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Speaker 6: Were the first high school class to enter college in

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Speaker 6: THE nil.

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Speaker 14: Era so these guys have legitimately been businessmen since they

624
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Speaker 14: were eighteen years.

625
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Speaker 6: Old it's the first group.

626
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Speaker 14: That came out of high school into THE nil. ERA

627
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Speaker 14: i thought that was notable With, marvin AND i think

628
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Speaker 14: it's notable here With. Caleb caleb asked these big picture

629
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Speaker 14: questions that guys, ten, fifteen twenty years ago may not have.

630
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Speaker 14: Asked AND i think it's part of what this generation

631
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 14: of athlete is going to.

632
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Speaker 6: Be they're entering the league with money in.

633
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Speaker 14: Their, pocket they have some leverage because of, it and they've,

634
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Speaker 14: had you, know the chance to kind of write their

635
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 14: ticket right up until they entered THE. Nfl and, so you,

636
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Speaker 14: KNOW i think For caleb it was kind of what

637
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 14: we've seen about him resisting going To chicago was part

638
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 14: of a bigger picture, thing which Is i'm Handling i'm

639
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 14: handling my business affairs like their business, affairs like this

640
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 14: is these this is this is big, business And i'm

641
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 14: going to treat it as. Such and you, know and

642
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 14: even though he didn't go through with, it the fact

643
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 14: that he just explored, IT i think as a precursor

644
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 14: to more guys handling their pre draft process this way

645
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 14: because they're more prepared to based on what they went

646
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 14: through in.

647
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Collllege, well how surprised are you that somebody hasn't pulled

648
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: In Eli?

649
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 6: Manning IT'S i, mean it's, yeah it's. Surprising but, like

650
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 6: how many guys really have the leverage to do? It

651
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: you know WHAT i? Mean like how many guys are that?

652
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 14: LEVEL i, Mean caleb was seen as on the level

653
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 14: Of Trevor lawrence And Andrew luck and that's probably, it you,

654
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 14: know over the last twenty, Years so there aren't a

655
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 14: ton of guys who have the leverage to pull it.

656
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: Off what about Arch?

657
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 14: Manning he, might, YEAH i mean like and we'll, see right,

658
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 14: like BECAUSE i don't know If arche is going to

659
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 14: come out like after next.

660
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: YEAR i think you AND I.

661
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 14: I think you'd agree with me, this Right, like based

662
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 14: on the family, HISTORY i think he's probably gonna spend

663
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 14: at least two more years At.

664
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 6: Texas it would be my.

665
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 14: Guess but, YEAH i, mean like he certainly could do.

666
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 14: That you, know like, where but he's going.

667
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: To get an idea where he could go if he used.

668
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: He's got to, play well obviously that's established. Effort, yeah,

669
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 6: yeah he's.

670
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 2: Got but let's say The saints are right there with

671
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: the number one, pick, right would then, that you, know

672
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: help him with his decision that maybe there is a

673
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: best case SCENARIO i would come out to play for my.

674
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: Hometown if, not Then i'm going to stay and play

675
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: one more.

676
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 6: YEAR i, mean well that's What peyton, did Right Because,

677
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 6: PEYTON i Mean.

678
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: Peyton was going to The, Jets.

679
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah With parcels, there and he decided not to do, it,

680
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 14: Right like so LIKE i Think peyton HAD i would

681
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 14: Argue peyton had that sort of decision on the table

682
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety seven when he decided to go back To.

683
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 6: TENNESSEE i mean it's that's the ultimate sliding to our.

684
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 14: Situation like like, scenario by the, Way like what would

685
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 14: have Happened Peyton anning went to The? Jets like then

686
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 14: Does Bill belichick stay In New?

687
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 6: York you know WHAT i?

688
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 14: Mean like because he was lined up to Be parcel's,

689
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 14: Successor like how many things are different If Peyton manning

690
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 14: comes out in ninety.

691
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 6: Seven but, YEAH i MEAN i think.

692
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 14: That like he'll CERTAINLY i would think based on how

693
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 14: everything's been handled over the years with that, family that

694
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 14: they will weigh.

695
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: Everything.

696
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 14: NOW i think that the interesting part about the decision

697
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 14: That arts would have to make if he plays.

698
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: At that level this year.

699
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 14: Would be the history of quarterbacks that only start one

700
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 14: year is not very. Good you, know only start one

701
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 14: year as. Collegians there's, this there's, This some teams look

702
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 14: at it as like, this like this threshold that you

703
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 14: have to get past is twenty five, starts, Right you

704
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 14: want to have twenty five starts in, College and the

705
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 14: history of guys who have more than twenty five starts

706
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 14: is much better than guys who.

707
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 6: Don't you, Know arch isn't going to be there at

708
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 6: the end of this. Year he'll be sure to that

709
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: at the end of this.

710
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 14: Year so how beneficial does the, Situation how good does

711
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 14: the situation that THE nfl team's presenting that has the

712
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 14: number one pick if he plays that, Well how good

713
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 14: does that situation have to be to supersede what might

714
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 14: statistically be best for his. DEVELOPMENT i think those are

715
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 14: the sorts of questions you'd be asking AND i think

716
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 14: they'd be asking those questions.

717
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Too when do you think we'll get clarity on what

718
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: The Cleveland browns are doing at?

719
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: QUARTERBACK i have.

720
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 14: To think it's going to be hard for them to

721
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 14: run a four man competition in camp because you have

722
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 14: to get the rest of your team ready because of the.

723
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 14: Rules there's only so many opportunities you get with your

724
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 14: first offense out. There you've got to prepare the other

725
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 14: ten guys in the huddle to play, football to play

726
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 14: offense in twenty twenty, five and so you can't just

727
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 14: endlessly have this quarterback derby going. On SO i would

728
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 14: think my guess would be they have to at least

729
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 14: get a read on it over the course of the

730
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 14: next five, weeks six weeks and OTAs in mini camp

731
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 14: and allow that to sort of guide them as far

732
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 14: as how good a shot every one of those guys

733
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 14: has it winning the job when we get to the,

734
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 14: summer where it's, like at least in the heads narrowed

735
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 14: down a little, bit where they're giving the best opportunities

736
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 14: to the guys who have proven themselves the.

737
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 6: Most so you, know.

738
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 14: It's funny, too BECAUSE i thought about this and, like

739
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 14: it's like, Well Joe flacco could just because he was

740
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 14: there two years. Ago he could just you, know give

741
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 14: up some of the reps so the other guys could get.

742
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 14: It do you Think joe's going to sign up for, That, Dan,

743
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 14: LIKE i, mean like he wants to, start you. Know

744
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 14: so it's Like Tommy reese is the offensive. Coordinator he

745
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 14: wasn't there two years. Ago so do you if You're,

746
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 14: joe do you want to Give Kenny pickett And Dylan

747
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 14: gabriel And shade Or sanders all of these reps with

748
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 14: the new coordinator that you're not Getting that might give

749
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 14: them a leg up in the, competition which could end

750
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 14: up like could like wind.

751
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 6: Up leading to you losing your.

752
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 14: Job, LIKE i don't see that that being, LIKE i

753
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 14: don't see that being the best course of action For

754
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 14: Joe flacco. Either so it's definitely complicated in a lot

755
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 14: of different. Ways AND i do think more so than

756
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 14: in a normal compet quarterback, competition because there are four of.

757
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 14: Them they have to get a read on this and

758
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 14: have to have an idea of what the pecking were

759
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 14: or might be coming out of the. Spring and THEN

760
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 14: i would think you probably are on the second or

761
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 14: third preseason, game are making a decision on your.

762
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: Starter one final thought here with The Aaron rodgers, situation

763
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: it feels like there's people that are talking around the

764
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: topic Of aaron playing for The Pittsburgh.

765
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: Steelers, yeah your sense is what.

766
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 6: Talking around in what way that you, know, hey.

767
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: They could see him.

768
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Playing there's no news here that maybe he's got some

769
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: personal things he needs to take CARE i, mean he

770
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: didn't want to go to, camp you, know hit something.

771
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 6: Else so so.

772
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 14: Yeah so give, me, like let me give you the

773
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 14: logic on this like, That, LIKE i, LIKE i Think

774
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 14: i've been able to ascertain based on some STUFF i

775
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 14: know and then some Stuff i'm projecting.

776
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 6: Out a little.

777
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 14: Bit LIKE i, LIKE i think the personal stuff is.

778
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 14: LEGITIMATE i would.

779
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 6: Say we should all respect, that of. Course AND i

780
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 6: think the second piece of that is.

781
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 14: If you sign him In, April if you sign him

782
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 14: on The april first and you, say, Okay, aaron you

783
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 14: go take care of your personal, stuff, well you, know

784
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 14: then you've basically signed up for the entire, spring both

785
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 14: you And aaron being overcome with whnes he's showing up

786
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 14: on's he's showing, up when's he's showing? Up get to

787
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 14: the off season, program Where's? Aaron Where's? Aaron Where's? Aaron

788
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 14: then that starts again when you Start OTA's it starts

789
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 14: again when you get to mini.

790
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: Camp and so do you want.

791
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 14: To sign up for that where it's just hovering over

792
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 14: your team or do you say, okay like you go,

793
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 14: ahead you take care of your personal, stuff and we'll

794
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 14: push the deal over the goal line when you're. READY

795
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 14: i think that's sort of the attack that The steelers have.

796
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 14: Taken is there a risk? Involved, yeah he could change his,

797
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 14: mind you know WHAT i, Mean or there could be

798
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 14: an injury somewhere or you, know who. Knows BUT i

799
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 14: don't think like the contract's going to be an. ISSUE

800
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 14: i don't think the. RELATIONSHIP i don't know if there's any issue. There,

801
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 14: LIKE i think all that stuff's taken care, of you,

802
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 14: know and now it's just when When aaron's ready to,

803
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 14: sign and you, KNOW i think he'll be A.

804
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: Steeler we'll see what.

805
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: Happens play nice there at the owners. Meeting, Okay i'll.

806
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: Try i'll try my.

807
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 14: Best Sometimes i'm not good at, that But i'll try

808
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 14: and try and do.

809
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 6: It for, You, dan how about?

810
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: That have you been yelling at an owner recently.

811
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 14: Recently, normally, normally when an owner's pissed at, me it

812
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 14: comes to some sort of.

813
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 6: Conduit it happened in the. Fall it happened in the.

814
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 14: Fall somebody wasn't wasn't very happy with there Were it

815
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 14: was actually like a couple people came at me for

816
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 14: my portrayal of an. Owner but it wound Up i'll

817
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 14: just say it wound up all being. True and you

818
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 14: know WHAT i find in these, Situations, dan is that

819
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 14: they get upset you in the moment and then give

820
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 14: it a few months and fillip.

821
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 8: Me you were.

822
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: Right so it was The. Patriots Huh it wasn't The.

823
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 6: Patriots you might have the conference right.

824
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: Though there you, Go, okay fair? Enough could be The.

825
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: Jets never, know good The. Jets he's A monday morning.

826
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 5: Quarterback thank you at?

827
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 14: All?

828
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: Right Thanks.

829
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Dan be sure to catch the live edition Of The

830
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick show weekdays at nine Am eastern six Am

831
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: pacific On Fox Sports radio and The iHeartRadio.

832
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: APP i got a text last night from The voice Of,

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: indianapolis the self Proclaimed voice Of, Indianapolis Dan, dokich host

834
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: Of don't At me podcast on, amtkick former college head,

835
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: coach played and starred Under Bobby knight At. Indiana so

836
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: you send me the, text all, right tell me why

837
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: The pacer is gonna win in?

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: Six?

839
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 14: HI?

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00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 8: Dp, WELL i like The. Pacers you know WHY i

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00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 8: like The, PACERS.

842
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 15: Dp they moved the, basketball they move, people they moved the.

843
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 15: Ball they've got a stud late. GAME i know you

844
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 15: Have reggie on all the, time And i'm glad he's

845
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 15: on the. Call halliburton reminds me Of reggie in a

846
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 15: lot of. Ways they look. ALIKE i, mean both, slim,

847
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 15: slender kind of funky jump shots and go in all the.

848
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 15: Time but big d the biggest. Reason he ain't afraid

849
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 15: of the Clutch. Man it's two clutters, Dudes brunson Against. Haliburton.

850
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 15: Leighton halliburton is not. Afraid brunson is not. Afraid PACER's

851
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 15: got a good. Team carlisle is a great, coach and

852
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 15: they're just. Better the better team right?

853
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: Now, well The knicks were pretty impressive this past, series, Right.

854
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 8: BUT i think that's they're.

855
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: Terrific but are you factoring in the fact That tatum

856
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: got hurt and they they would Have do you think

857
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: they would have beaten The celtics If tatum was still

858
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: playing and was, HELPING i do, OKAY.

859
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 15: I DO i think something was off with The celtics,

860
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 15: DP i DO i think something was. OFF i think

861
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 15: that The celtics weren't The celtics of last. Year LOOK

862
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 15: i like The knicks and last year really doesn't Matter

863
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 15: pacers versus The.

864
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 8: CELTICS i mean and a obay.

865
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 15: Uh The indianagrad by the, way has become a fantastic

866
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 15: four way. Player you, know you want to post, up

867
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 15: you want to, rebound you want to, run you want

868
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 15: to score in half, court you want to score it.

869
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 15: Four it doesn't. Matter he's just to become a really good.

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00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 15: Player him played last. Year hartenstein was very good last.

871
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 15: YEAR i looked For Miles turn to have a terrific.

872
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 15: UH i just think The pacers are one of those

873
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 15: Teams dan that you, know how you start out and

874
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 15: you go through. Crap they were, Lousy halliburton wasn't gardened

875
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 15: a lot of. Questions Even halliburton questioned. Himself and then

876
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 15: you come through hard. Times and when you come through

877
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 15: hard times and either breaks or makeshi and The pacers

878
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 15: are good. Man they are, Tough they're. Resilient this is

879
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 15: a much better pacer. TEAM i know it's a better

880
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 15: nick team than last, year but it's a better pacer

881
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 15: team than last year.

882
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 8: Too and the other guy is this.

883
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 15: Siaka my favorite all time player Was Bob love number,

884
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 15: Ten Chicago bullswart my whole, life and he And Bobby

885
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 15: dandridge are The bucks used to face off and that's

886
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 15: what got that fade away the mid. RANGE i love

887
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 15: watching this, guy and they're just really. Good they're just

888
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 15: really well coached and really good in a much better

889
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 15: team this year than Last.

890
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: Tyree's halliburton's dad allowed back to.

891
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 15: Watch, no BUT i wish he, WAS i. DO i

892
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 15: know what he did was, stupid BUT i wish he.

893
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 15: WAS i, mean, okay you acted like a. Dumbass you

894
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 15: took advantage, of you, know the PACER's. Kindness you, KNOW

895
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 15: i was, saying no good deed goes. Unpunished pacers gave

896
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 15: him those. Seats he screwed it, up all, RIGHT i

897
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 15: wish he.

898
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Was.

899
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 15: No, apparently unless there's been a you, know something done

900
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 15: without an, Announcement John halliburton won't be able to watch.

901
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 15: Enough all, right let's, Go let's let him back in

902
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 15: The Bill halliburton you ever talked to. Him i'm sure you.

903
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 15: Have he is a great. Dude, like all, right his

904
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 15: dad did what he. Did maybe his dad's a pain

905
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 15: in the, ass, fine But halliburton's a great.

906
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 8: Dude let the dad in to watch the. Game oh why?

907
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: Not how Does halliburton get voted most overrated player by

908
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: the players in THE nba during the regular, Season.

909
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 8: DAN i was told it wasn't by the.

910
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 15: PLAYERS i was told it was by somebody each each

911
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 15: organization had a. Vote that could be wrong about. That,

912
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 15: no that one was the. Players the executive. Wasn't wasn't the.

913
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 15: Players that Was you don't. Know but if you look

914
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 15: on that, list a pretty good, List, DAN i, Mean

915
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 15: lebron's on that.

916
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 8: List giannis is on that. LIST i mean you know

917
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 8: WHAT i, mean he is Like.

918
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 15: Dato that's a pretty good list to be. On he

919
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 15: just happened to be the, king you. KNOW i like about.

920
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 8: Him you, know he's like your, Guy.

921
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 15: Reggie, reggie by the, Way reggie kicked my ass my

922
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 15: last college game in The Garden, Ucla indiana N. Championship

923
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 15: So i've always Admired reggie and his. Ability were, him,

924
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 15: Yeah knight would play.

925
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 8: Me he was mad at me AND i would play

926
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 8: the second. Half we Beat. Tennessee put me in the second.

927
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 15: HALF i Reguard Johnny, newman a longtime pro Against Richmond

928
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 15: night was. MAD i played a second, half came out Against.

929
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 15: Reggie we had, THIS i told you this. Before we

930
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 15: had this clown assistant coach Named Con smith who told

931
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 15: us to play Off, reggie Playoff reggie and Front Gary.

932
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 8: Mlanson you didn't even know Who Gary mullanson.

933
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 5: Is you're supposed to Let Reggie miller?

934
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 16: Shoot, yes, yes, Bigded hey that Was and then NIGHT

935
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 16: i see over, There knight's taking me, out SO i drive,

936
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 16: it try to get follow him, out And i'm standing

937
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 16: there during the time out And Nancy, Knight knight's wife

938
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 16: IS mf and me my mother can hear?

939
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 8: It?

940
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 6: Dan my?

941
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 8: Mother she's, like Docis you're the WORST mfn. Leader And i'm,

942
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 8: like wait a.

943
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 15: Second your staff told me to Let Reggie miller shoot

944
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 15: and Guard Gary.

945
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: Malonson, hey why Didn't knight say something to?

946
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: You he's mister.

947
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 15: Defense HE i think he had checked, out but it

948
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 15: was you, know it was a championship game of THE.

949
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 8: Nit the garden was. Packed he WAS.

950
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 15: Ucla, indiana and we're, like, now remember we're taking Away.

951
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 8: Malonson And i'm, like wait a.

952
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 15: SECOND i Watched Late night with The pac twelve or,

953
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 15: ten whatever the hell it, Was pack. Eight it was

954
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 15: CALLED i Know Reggie miller's the. Guy, ANYWAY i, Digress

955
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 15: sorry about.

956
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: That Touch knight yelled at. ME i had a sit

957
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: down one on one with.

958
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Him Uh SO i was at the garden covering, that

959
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: AND i sat down with him AND i was asking

960
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: him about the you, know THE N I. T i

961
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: knew he loved the N I t and and and

962
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: So i'm trying to play to his strengths a little.

963
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: Bit he Thinks i'm criticizing the N I t for some,

964
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: reason and he says something and then he gets up

965
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: and storms, out AND i was, like what what just?

966
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: HAPPENED I i thought it was saying something, nice and

967
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: then he stormed out of. It and then then all

968
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: of a, sudden pr people run in like what?

969
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 8: Happened what?

970
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: HAPPENED i, GO i have no. Idea that probably happened

971
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: to you a lot of times where you, go what just?

972
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 15: Happened here a big d we lost my senior night

973
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 15: And toshing And Gary grant hit a shot to beat

974
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 15: us his first. Time night Lost senior night and seniors

975
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 15: In indiana talk to the, crowd, Right so we're waiting

976
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 15: night wouldn't come out of the locker. Room SO i

977
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 15: got seventeen thousand people there AND i got to start

978
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 15: my senior. Night you, know nice not. There SO i, said,

979
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 15: WELL i guess he's not. Coming and then after he

980
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 15: told us we're not going to the N. T you

981
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 15: guys don't deserve to. Play so Uve blop you Remember Ouve?

982
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: Blop, yeah, yeah. Draft.

983
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 15: Yeah we went back to our, apartment were roommates with

984
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 15: a baseball. Player we're, like, well season is, over let's get.

985
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 15: Drunk so we started drinking. Beers next thing you, KNOW

986
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 15: i get a call about two hours, Later, hey Dockets,

987
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 15: blop get the team in.

988
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 8: Here we're going to the N. T like, right you,

989
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 8: know we're we're.

990
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 15: Twelve beers in this college kids, right so and saying

991
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 15: you know we're In New york and nights screaming at.

992
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 14: You.

993
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: See so you got The pacers going to THE Nba.

994
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: Finals they're gonna face Who.

995
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 15: Yeah i'm not going Against. Okay, see even THOUGH i

996
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 15: will say, this, MAN i like What Anthony edwards is.

997
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 15: About and here's WHAT i like About Anthony. Edwards he's

998
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 15: he's really Riding Rudy gobert in a good. Way Rudy

999
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 15: gobert's gotten. GOOD i know people Criticize. Gobert i'm Watching

1000
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 15: Go beart in this Series Go. Bear if you watch,

1001
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 15: this you'll understand. This as a basketball, guy he's always

1002
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 15: in the right.

1003
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 8: Spot you.

1004
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 15: Know, offensively he goes opposite the. Ball he's not gonna

1005
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 15: catch it other than the. Dunkin and defensively it's gonna

1006
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 15: be huge Because Gilgas alexander puts you on an island

1007
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 15: and he gets going, downhill you better be. There, DEFENSIVELY

1008
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 15: i THINK i think it's, uh it's gonna be. Fascinating

1009
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 15: BUT i, think, okay see he's just there's much. Better

1010
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 15: they're so, good they're so tough and d here's a, laugh.

1011
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 15: MAN i love the crowds in these. Playoffs, okay see

1012
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 15: he's got great Crowd these are great.

1013
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 8: Crowds. Man this is A this.

1014
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 15: Is a bunch of. Fun but, okay see he's been

1015
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 15: so good all. Year they just got too.

1016
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 8: Much.

1017
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: See the thing is IS i watch ant in college

1018
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: At georgia AND i just thought that he was kind

1019
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: of a.

1020
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: Highlight.

1021
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah and Then Shay gilgess was just Another kentucky player

1022
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: and The clippers didn't even know what they had because

1023
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: they asked for all those first round draft picks for

1024
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: him with The Paul george. Deal, like it's weird how

1025
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: those players you get out of a. System Devin booker

1026
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: didn't even start At kentucky and then goes in and

1027
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: averages twenty eight, again, like how does that?

1028
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 5: Happen where these guys? Are do coaches keep them?

1029
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 8: Down?

1030
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 15: They, hey if you look at the dudes in THE.

1031
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 15: NBA i love, cal but these guys in THE nba.

1032
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 15: Manage Mel murray was all, right he's a good player At.

1033
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 15: KENTUCKY i did Their bahamas trip Like Kentucky Seth greenberg

1034
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 15: AND i was like three four games in The, bahamas Shake.

1035
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 15: Gilgess alexander was. Okay. DAN i did an Entire battle

1036
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 15: of The atlantis With devon or excuse, me uh Or

1037
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 15: Davonte mitchell whatever the hell his name is with The Cat.

1038
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 8: Donovan, Yeah, donovan excuse. Me if you'd have told me

1039
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 8: that's the sixteenth pick in the, Draft i'd have been

1040
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 8: like you're. OUT i did four straight games with. Him

1041
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 8: he was. Good Saint Elgis alexander was.

1042
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 15: Good he wasn't, Like oh, man Hey, dan this guy's

1043
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 15: gonna be THE mvp, now you, know hang on, here.

1044
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 8: No, way, no.

1045
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 15: No in, fact on those, teams as you, mentioned, uh

1046
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 15: the best player On kentucky then Was Tyler, ewlis the

1047
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 15: little point. Guard he was the guy everybody was talking.

1048
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 15: About but to your, POINT i don't know if coaches

1049
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 15: keep him, down, Man BUT i know. This those dudes

1050
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 15: At kentucky they get in THE nba and next thing you,

1051
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 15: know holy holy.

1052
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 5: Hell next thing you, know they're making fifty million dollars a.

1053
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 15: Year and MVPs and commercials and everything. Else it's it's

1054
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 15: good to be a player from cal to get in THE,

1055
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 15: nba that's for.

1056
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 5: Sure good luck with your. Pacers good to talk to you.

1057
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 5: Again thank. You that's big, date all, Right That's Dan

1058
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 5: dokice