1 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Hell, it's live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: He is the great z. How about this weather? I mean, really, 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: look at young Scarlet sneaking around. This is incredible and 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: his works. I mean, this weather's unbelievable. I was playing 11 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: hoops last night till like nine o'clock with the boys, 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: getting some hoops in fantastic. Yeah, it's perfect weather for 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 2: it because it's absolute unbelievables. Supposed to be a great 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: week all the week through. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: Looks it looks beautiful. I think we're gonna have a 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: great game as well. 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: When for the game. When are we gonna have a 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: great game? 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: The weather for the games gonna be great? 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: The weather for the games? 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Yell? 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, the weather will be great. Yes, yes, the weather 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: should be great for Sunday as we forecast out to 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: their low eighties is what it's looking like. We had 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: a game last night Monday Night Football, you had falcons. 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: The scores were not treated kindly to the end of 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: that one. But it does put into conclusion two weeks 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: of the NFL that have been quite honestly, a little 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: bit off across the board, not just because the scores 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: have been off, but just in general, strange results, strange performances, 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: like the leading passers in the league versus who you 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: thought that they would be. Derek Carr, for example, Minshew 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: is up there on those lists as well Sam Darnold. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: It is an odd start to the year in the NFL. 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: Hold on, there is a stat that I saw. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: That I got it for you, sixty nine touchdown passes 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: in the first two games, first two weeks. Rather in 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: the NFL in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty it was 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and ten, it was one hundred and five, 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one last year was in the upper eighties. 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: I want to say, like eighty eight. Just sixty nine 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: touchdown passes in the first two weeks of the season 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: in the league. Buddy, there are only five three hundred 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: yard passing games in the league through two weeks, a 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: total of five. The quarterbacks who have done so are 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: two and three in regard to the result. Right in 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: those five. 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: Games, I know Stafford was one of them. 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: It was Stafford. Gino to U, there are two people 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: who did in a winning effort. Gino did it in 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: a winning effort. Ye Gino twa Stafford. 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: God, I'm saying Gino one and two one, those are 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: the two. 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Didn't think of the fifth one was they had it 56 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: written down, but there was only five. There's only seven 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league who are averaging eight yards of completion, 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: which is crazy. 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: It's just it's not attractive football. 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: It's not I think there are a bunch of factors 61 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: that get you to this point. You've been around this 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: sport in the NFL level a long time, what say you. 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: I think that offensive line play in general is worse 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: than it ever has been. I think that it is 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: difficult to get the ball down the field because of that, 66 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: and so teams are I mean, how many two yard 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: passes do you see? There was one where the Eagles 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: completed three consecutive passes and then still needed to toush 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: push on fourth down to get a first down. They 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: completed three consecutive passes like ball out first read completions 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: and they totaled nine yards. 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 5: Yep. 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: So I think part of it is fear about offensive 74 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: line play. I think defensive lines are way ahead of 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: offensive lines. I mean we're seeing we saw games in 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: Week two, how many people had three sacks and I 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: mean there are multiple people that had three or more 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: Sexy and eight and hutcheons and had four and a 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: half in a game against Tampa. Yeah, so it's I 80 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: think that's a part of it. I think the other 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: part of it is, you know, teams are basically playing 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: with six seven DB's. I mean, your linebackers of today 83 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: are not the linebackers of even five years ago. 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: It's certainly not fifteen. 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: No, it's not even the same stratosphere. So you've got 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: people who are able to, you know, cover tight ends, 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: who can cover receivers. Sometimes you're seeing that it's linebackers 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: on receivers and that when the olden days are a 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: running back on a receiver on a wheel route that 90 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: was a layup, that's an automatic, and now it's not. 91 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: So I think those are the factors that go into it. 92 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: I don't believe that you can even begin There aren't 93 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: any rules they can change. 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: You know there are no. You know what the answer 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: to this is, and it's what it's happening. Run the ball. 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: Well, that's the way that's out of it. 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: That's the way to get them out of it is 98 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: to bludge in them with the run and run it 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: forty times. And there were a lot of people that 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: did this, that ran it with great effectiveness. It's not 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: as esthetically pleasing as a sport's been over the last decade, 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: but that's what's happened. And you're exactly right. It's defensive lines, 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: it's linebackers, it's playing in nickel seventy percent of the time, 104 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: and now you're just bludgeing those undersized linebackers, which are 105 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: now the regular size linebackers. I do think not playing 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: in the preseason as part of it slowsop. 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: But I mean we go back. You mentioned twenty twenty one. 108 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: That was the nineteen and twenty right in there, and. 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: Twenty one was still over one hundred touchdowns. I think 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: you said, yes, yes, yes, and that was the Bengals Rams, right, 111 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: and the Rams didn't playing but in the preseason. 112 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I just say they were the outlier though, 113 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: And I do think when we went from four preseason 114 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: games to three that you've seen a different a shift 115 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: in it. Just take a look at at Bryce Young 116 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: for example, he had he had one series in the 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: preseason and they benched him with a new offense and 118 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: a new coordinator. You don't think he needed to play 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: ball a little bit. You don't think Kayleb Williams needed 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: to play a little bit of ball a little bit. 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: You mentioned the penix thing, like Derek Carr played in 122 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: two preseason games, c J. Stroud played in two preseason games. 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: Like play football a little bit, Yeah, right, A little 124 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: bit of football doesn't hurt anybody. Yeah, And I think so. 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 4: Another thing i'd say, I think the league has become 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: so and rightfully so so turnover averse that quarterbacks don't 128 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: make a lot of throws that they maybe would have 129 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: made five years ago. I think five years ago it 130 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: was acceptable to be kind of two to one touchdown interception. 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: That was like, yeah, good, And now everybody wants to 132 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: be you know, thirty touchdown six. 133 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Picks, right, I think that's fair too risk adverse offense, 134 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: which goes back to it's also the Mahomes effect with 135 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: the safeties playing so deep and this is what got 136 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Mahomes for a little bit, and he's still not what 137 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: he was a couple of years ago. And this sets 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: offensively statistically, because what they're doing is they're saying, we're 139 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: not letting you beat us deep, so you can throw 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: underneath all you want, and we're gonna come up and 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: tackle and we'll take death by a thousand cuts over 142 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: bombs over Baghdad. And that is the other part of it. 143 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Those deep shots just aren't there the way that they 144 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: used to. They aren't, and so you have to be patient. 145 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: You have to take the underneath stuff. And a lot 146 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: of quarterbacks are the patients for that because you want 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: to stretch the field. That's what you're used to do. 148 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: Yes, and when you have those deep shots, maybe because 149 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 4: you're not throwing them nearly as much, and that's something 150 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: we could certainly look into, but it feels like quarterbacks 151 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: are missing them more often than they used to. As well. 152 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: We are seeing opportunities for plays down the field that 153 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: also are not happening, and I think that is one 154 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: of the things that's you know, it all kind of 155 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: adds up to what has been somewhat fairly lackluster offensive performance. 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: The only team that has not been lackluster on offense 157 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: this year is the New Orleans Saints. They have scored 158 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: points on every drive that Derek Carr has been on 159 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: the field. That's crazy. Nineteen drives. They've scored points on 160 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: all nineteen of them that he has been on the field. 161 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: And nobody saw this coming with them, No, nobody. Yeah, 162 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: like I did mention he is one of the guys 163 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: who did play in two preseason games. Not to say 164 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: that's absolutely why that is. But they're sharp, Yes, they're 165 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: very sharp coming out of the gates. 166 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: All right. 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: We talked after our game about Jacksonville and the fact 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: that Trevor Lawrence had lost now seven games in a 169 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: row for somebody that talented. What can be said of 170 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: the Eagles? They were eleven and one a year ago, 171 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: ten and one, eleven and one. What have they been since? 172 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: Not good? Not that they've won. They won one game 173 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: down the stretch, they lost the playoffs, and then they 174 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: won one game this They won Week one this year, 175 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: So they're like two. I bet they're two and seven, 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: two and eight in their last ten. Yeah, somewhere in 177 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: there could even be worse than that, honestly, Yeah, but 178 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: I think it's something like that. 179 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at home. You got it by the short 180 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: hair in the fourth quarter, You've got it, and you 181 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: blew it. Boy, you just blew it. So I thought 182 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: you watched more of it than I. I watched hoops, 183 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: and so I wasn't as into it as I watched plenty. 184 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: You probably most of the second quarter into the third, 185 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: and then I was done past. 186 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: I watched the entire fourth quarter, and the fourth court 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 4: of the Man cast was superb with Matt Ryan on there. 188 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: When it's three quarterbacks talking ball, I think it's so good. 189 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 4: Matt Ryan also had some ideas that they were like 190 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: what to Peyton's disgusted with certain things that happened was 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: so fun to watch, but he ultimately, you know, they 192 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: didn't mind. And Matt right even said, I'd go back 193 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: to that, you know, that sprint rollout that they got 194 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: almost a touchdown on to Saquon and it was a 195 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 4: perfect play call, perfect pass, and he just dropped it 196 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: was dropped. I mean, at some point execution matters, and 197 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 4: now people would say, well, why would you do that 198 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: because all you needed to do was just take a knee. 199 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: Even and the clock. You're playing the clock and not 200 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: The opponents went down the field really quickly, and they 201 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: scored almost as though they were playing on air. 202 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Manning was pissed off, in fact, saying like too soon 203 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: to take your time, Burns he was here. He was 204 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: upset that the receiver went out of bounds instead of 205 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: staying in bounds. He hates bad ball. 206 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't know that he was necessarily right, and Eli 207 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: even pushed back on him a little bit. ELA's like, 208 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: you still got a score. 209 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: Right, like. 210 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: Through his prism, which is if I have to get 211 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: it with Reggie Wayne, I'm going to It's just a 212 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: matter of do I do it now or on third down? 213 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: Right right, you know? 214 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: And I did not feel that way about the Falcons, right. 215 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: I did not. 216 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 4: He's like, no, just if you get if you could 217 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: score a score, and they did, which was it was 218 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: that was a very very fun game. But that comes 219 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: down to again, simple execution, and the Eagles did not 220 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: do it in a critical moment. And Saquan had been bruti. 221 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: I thought he'd had a very good game and then 222 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: he has a drop when in the most inopportune time. 223 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: I mean, there's really not a whole lot more to 224 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: to say about it. They should have won that game 225 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: than to just let Atlanta walk down the field was wild. 226 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: I thought Kirk Cousins looked the Steelers got very lucky 227 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: that they caught them in that first game. I think 228 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins looked much better this week so did than 229 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: he did in Week one. 230 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: So obviously he had a very good drive at the end. 231 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: But I was noticing while I was watching in the 232 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: second and third like he didn't seem still wanting to 233 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: drive off of he doesn't have his base, did not 234 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: he did not seem like he was willing to throw 235 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: it all in and really. 236 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: Had a couple of good ones down the field to 237 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: Moon and London. But for the most part, yeah, they 238 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: were running with Beijon who was running very well, or 239 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: Alga or it was short quick passes they throw. I mean, 240 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: throws a ball to Ray Ray McLeod a ton, which 241 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: is wild. It's crazy, gets no pits, gets nothing. 242 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: And all I heard coming out of New camp was pits, pits, pits. 243 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: It's all he throws to his pits and it's been 244 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: none of them, none of that. Gibbey saying that the 245 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: Eagles lost five out of the last six last season, 246 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: so they are two and seven. That's yeah, Yeah, we 247 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: had that, So two and seven in their last nine, 248 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: which isn't great for them. And so you're left and 249 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: I know we're gonna we're gonna do some rankings. Is 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: that for today's show, Gibbey where we're doing our rankings. Oh, 251 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: we had homework, a little of our homework assignment. 252 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right. 253 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: So we're going to rank our top one through ten, 254 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a very different looking list 255 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: based on based on what's happened through two weeks. 256 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: I kind of did it thinking some of you have 257 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: to acknowledge what we have seen, but then also still 258 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 4: what I kind of believe. 259 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I went much more what we've seen, not what I believe. 260 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: Okay, you'll, I think you'll say my list is that 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: as well? 262 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: So that's that's so yeah, i'd. 263 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Says probably like seventy percent what I've seen in thirty 264 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: percent of what I believe. 265 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. In the NFC, I'm not sure. 266 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I still think, Oh, I don't know. 267 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: Obviously the niners you feel, but that's a pretty stupefying 268 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 2: loss to lose at Minnesota when they're relatively healthy. No McCaffrey, 269 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: but like that wasn't a problem, and Minnesota took it 270 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: to him for the majority of that game. Yeah, and 271 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: I know the one thought around the league. But in 272 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: terms of the NFC East, I mean, Dallas and Philly 273 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: Week two both not looking great, losing at home both 274 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: of them, and the other two are just bad. The 275 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: strange Washington could be frisky. 276 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: But the strange thing about Dallas is that they do 277 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: this every year if they end up being good, and 278 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: this was kind of the one anomaly, just awful loss. 279 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: They do this every year. Remember last year they went 280 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: into Arizona and got smoked by Dobbs and the car 281 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: I mean. 282 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: I knew, Yeah, not usually at home. 283 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Not usually at home. 284 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: No, usually that Jared make sure that they're they were 285 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: apparently the best, they were not at their best. 286 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 287 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: The NFC South with Atlanta winning and getting to one 288 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: and one, and the other two two and oh teams, 289 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: the Saints and the Bucks in there as well. The Bucks. 290 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: Bucks probably have the most impressive win of the season 291 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: going to Detroit, one of the more impressive wins anyway, 292 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: going to Detroit as huge dogs. I think it was 293 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: seven and a half in that game and they won. 294 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, seven and a half, So we thought it had 295 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: to be had to be. Yeah, it had to be. 296 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: And do you know that that? Do you know that 297 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: the Lions out gained them two to one in that game? 298 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 4: Jay yards to every yard gained by the Bucks was 299 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 4: gained by the Lions. 300 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: What do you that's crazy and lost? What do you 301 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: make of Jared Goff throwing fifty five passes in Week two? 302 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: I feels it's a lot as right as my buddy 303 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: Gary Nevadi would say, it's a bit much. 304 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: It's a bit much. 305 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like a bit much. Yes, I would 306 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: agree with that. So what do I make of it? 307 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,479 Speaker 4: I would consider it to be quite surprising, to be honest. 308 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: With you, because that's not the way they're built. 309 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'd have to go fully into the 310 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: box score to see what. 311 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: So thirty five he was He was thirty four of 312 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: fifty five. Gibbs said, thirteen for eighty four, six and 313 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: a half a carry. Montgomery was eleven for thirty five. 314 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: They ran it for five yards a clip in the game. 315 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: As he was he possessing the ball and. 316 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: He threw it to Amaran s. Brown nineteen times. He 317 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: had eleven he caught through nineteen passes his way, eleven 318 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: to Jamison Williams. Jamison Williams does not have a great 319 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: catch ratio versus target. No, it just is it in 320 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: his professional career, eleven targets, five receptions for him in 321 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: the game, and golf was not clean either. He was 322 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: not what you're used to from him. He was not 323 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: particularly good. He had Jamier Gibbs on what should have 324 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: been a walk in touchdown and one hopped it to him. 325 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: He said, meantime, bake twelve of nineteen in that game 326 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: for one, which is like a normal quarterback. 327 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: Noma. 328 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: Here's the thing they ran. I mean, yeah, bake fumble 329 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: twice through pick. They didn't lose either of the fumbles, 330 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: which was fortunate, but they so he nineteen. Just do 331 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: pass attempts, add pass attempts, sacks and rushes together. So 332 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: they had nineteen passttempts, twenty three rush attempts. That's forty 333 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: two and five sacs, so forty seven. Detroit's got fifty 334 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: six and twenty seven, so it's eighty. I mean, they 335 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: they just had the ball so much more, right, they 336 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: could have run it a little bit more for sure, 337 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: but they just I think they just had they ran 338 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: significantly more plays. 339 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: The golf interceptions were brutal for them. Yeah, you know, 340 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: so that's that's a little bit of part of it. 341 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: So I don't know, we'll see have you heard this? 342 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: All right? 343 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: So you got one thought? You got coach to Fantasy 344 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: coming up. We did our top ten list, so we 345 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: have that to that's still ahead as well. We'll do 346 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: a little higher lower as well today over the course 347 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: of the program here on a Tuesday, have you heard 348 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: have your have your kids drop this on you? Crash out? 349 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Have you heard this? 350 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: No? 351 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: You heard this? Look at Geno's the g man knows. 352 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: So NBC is hitting me with crash out now, so 353 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: hear how it goes in the context of a sentence, Hey, paid, 354 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: will you take your dishes to the dishwasher? Yeah, dude, 355 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: don't crash out. No, I'm not crashing out. I just 356 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: would like you to take your dishes to the dishwasher. 357 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: Crashing out, I. 358 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: Get it, I get it, Dad, Just don't crash out. 359 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm not crashing out. I just would like you to 360 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: take your dishes. I know you're crashing out. 361 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: You want to see crash out. 362 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: You want to see what crashing out looks like. You'll 363 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: go see it. 364 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Inside your You're ready to see a crash out. It's 365 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: where we're headed. Yeah, that's where we're headed on things, 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: is towards a crash out. So I'm getting crash out. 367 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: It's amazing the things. He's also like, if you suck 368 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: at something, you're caso. Have you heard this? This is 369 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: it like caso? 370 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: I thought it was dogwater. 371 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: No, that was last year. Now it's Caso. 372 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: By the way, Caso's significant I said, Caso's great. 373 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: I love Keso not as much as I love a 374 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: guaker a salsa dy, but I like it. 375 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: But if you get a little salsa, mix that up 376 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 3: a little caso, little beef in that. 377 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 378 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: You a nice dep You got yourself a nice dip 379 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: given nicey. 380 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: I have to that. The the phrasing is coming so 381 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: fast and so furious with the words that he brings home. 382 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: The one I do like the most is mid mids 383 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: good and I use mid. I'll use it a lot. 384 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: I think it's actually better to me I've used because 385 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: you'll hear people say how is your meal? Oh it 386 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 2: is fine, and it's viewed negatively. But that's not what 387 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: it should mean. Fine should mean excellent, fine dining. It 388 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: should mean fine means excellent, not average. Mid is average. 389 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: Mid is average. So crash out has multiple meanings. To 390 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: go to sleep, to fall asleep quickly, do it, tiredness. 391 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: For example, I just want to go home, and crash 392 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: out makes sense. To spend the night, stay overnight. Crashed 393 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: out at John's place makes sense. To pass out, to 394 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: lose consciousness, to crash out, to be eliminated from a competition, 395 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: to lose in a sports competition in a way that 396 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: is embarrassing or disgraceful. He crashed out of the French 397 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: Open in the second round. But it doesn't I don't 398 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: see any way. Means like you're getting all age. 399 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're using it like rage, like when you're raging 400 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: that you've crashed out. 401 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: Well, to crash out means to commit here's another one 402 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: means uh means to commit an act of violence due 403 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: to rage and a lack of logic. 404 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: There you go, that's what he's going for. G Man 405 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: knows it. You've heard crash out. Yeah, he's got it. 406 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: He's on it. Yeah, they're talking. You guys lost me. 407 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: You guys lost a crash out. 408 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: It's absurd. 409 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Have you have kids? I have a one year old 410 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: at home. Oh you get along. Yeah, I got a 411 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: long time. So you're in precious stage. Yes, yes, we're 412 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: going to suck soon enough. 413 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: What about all they gotta do is it's just so 414 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: much more effective to be like, yeah, I got it, 415 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 4: just chill out. 416 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: Well, of course that would be more effective a twelve 417 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: year old boy. I like, boys, don't do that. 418 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: When my kid tells me to chill out over something. 419 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: Cosas anything, we said, go do this, do it. 420 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: Right right, Just it's actually get the patient to get 421 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: the papers, chill out. 422 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: The chill out is escalating. 423 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: When it gets bad. 424 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: When it goes that way, I'm fine. I'm about to 425 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: not be fine if you keep telling me. 426 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: To chill outel like that the episode of Seinfeld where 427 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: Elaine draws the furrowed brow and Uncle Leo when he 428 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: goes with doctor van Nostrom because she's a bad patient 429 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: and all that. That's what I feel like. I'm like, 430 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: I actually was fine until this all started. Yeah, yeah, 431 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: I was fine until you said, don't crash out up 432 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: until that point. Fine, and now now look what you do. 433 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: I am crashing out like what you've done. If you'd 434 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: like to know, that's where we're at on. 435 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 4: That crash right out of this window, my friend. 436 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: You are the chief not ruled out yet. Kevin Stefanski 437 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: is saying yesterday that both Jed Wills and Jack Conklin 438 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: are close as the Browns are off today, back in 439 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: the building tomorrow, start preparation for the giants. What will 440 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: you be looking for that would lead you to believe 441 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: what is the latest one of those two can be 442 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: a full go in practice that would lead you to 443 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: believe they could play on Sunday Friday. 444 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: I don't even know if they need to necessarily be 445 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: a full go in practice. I think this was maybe 446 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: kind of the target all along, and here we go. 447 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 4: I don't know. 448 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: I really I think nice to get two starters back 449 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: and do Wan can go back to being the left guard, 450 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: back up left guard, right guard is the swing guard? 451 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 3: Now? 452 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: Ye, poor Hoff, the Hoff got undid by it? 453 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 454 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: Why is that going anywhere? 455 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: Kids? I don't believe so. I don't want him to. 456 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: Why would he's very good? 457 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: He's very good. 458 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very good. Feels like the franchise right tackle sore. 459 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 2: Those two guys both getting back. Those would be your 460 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: that would be your noteworthy injury designations here on a Tuesday, 461 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: and those are your hot topies today. 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Amongst all of the tackles yep, who have 470 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: played at least eighty percent of their team snaps this year. 471 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: So that's thirty that's only thirty eight. That can't possibly 472 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: be right. Maybe it is only thirty eight. Dwan Jones 473 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: has the seventh best pass blocking efficiency in the league. 474 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: I think you take that. 475 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: All the tackles doesn't sound like a swing tackle. 476 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: No no, no, no no. 477 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: Or a third tackle. 478 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: Oh this is look at look at this very I'll 479 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: tell you what this looks like. This looks like we're 480 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: in Maine. We're in Maine. 481 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: By the way. 482 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: That's only like a six point one on the hamstring. 483 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a six to one hammy 484 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: hammi painting. But the other thing that is a very LLBean. 485 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a beautiful version of that. But I 486 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: could see him being out out among maybe a bonfire, 487 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: a clam bake in that outfit. That's what that looks 488 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: like to me. 489 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 490 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that he's got some sort of a 491 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: pea coat as an accouterment, by the way, with a 492 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: scarf he wants in a leather driving glove. 493 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: He tasked me with something, and I'm gonna and then 494 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna extend the tasking to you as well. Go 495 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: top five. He wants to our top five albums of 496 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: all time? 497 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it, June? Now we're on top five 498 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: albums of all time? 499 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 500 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about that, like your kids and my 501 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: kids don't know what an album is, no, and we'll 502 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: never know what an album is, No, they will not. Boy, 503 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 2: I almost would need that broken down by genre. Well, 504 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: because I don't know how you could just do it 505 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: like that. How are you going to compare? Like the 506 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: chronic that's appetite for distruction. Both impacted me greatly that 507 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, how do you compare? I mean, 508 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: look at him, he's an enigma. It's very very baggy. 509 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: That's that's one that's. 510 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: Not getting that's not getting anybody going there. 511 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: All right, I'll get you your five albums. We'll work 512 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: on that for senior swag. In addition to that, coming 513 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: up next, Kevin san Kevin Spanski meeting with the media. 514 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: You have that to look forward to, which is nice. 515 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: One thought around the NFL. Coming up after that. 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David Bell, like I told you guys, 526 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 6: has a hip injury that will require surgery. So disappointed 527 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 6: for David. You know, I will tell you I gave 528 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 6: him a game ball nine plays he had three catches, 529 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 6: So disappointed for him. A guy that his teammates really 530 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 6: appreciate how that kid works, and then helped bounce back. 531 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 6: Pierre Strong has a hamstring injury. I'd say that's week 532 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 6: to week and then Obo is cleared from the concussion protocol. 533 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 6: You know, like we talked last night, wasn't perfect, wasn't 534 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: always pretty, but it was gritty and I thought the guys, 535 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 6: you know, found a way there, and it's certainly a 536 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: learning experience. I think win, loser, draw, you got to 537 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 6: learn from these things. With that, I'll take any questions. 538 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 7: Hey, Kevin, I know you want your starting quarterback to 539 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 7: always start well. What did you like about the way 540 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 7: DeShawn opened up yesterday? 541 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: I thought, offensively, Tom and Shaun obviously in particular, we 542 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 6: played clean, we played on time, and I thought he 543 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: spread the ball rout was very good in his reads 544 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 6: really throughout the day, but kind of took what was 545 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 6: there if number one wasn't there moved on to number 546 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 6: two and played really clean. 547 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 7: Along those lines. He's always had to carry the load, 548 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 7: you know, regardless of where he is or was. Now 549 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 7: he's in the second year with you guys, does he 550 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 7: seem to have a better grasp on He doesn't have 551 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 7: to be the hero every time that he has to, 552 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 7: you know, make good smart plays. As you just referenced. 553 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 6: I think DeShawn understands how to win first and foremost, 554 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: and I think he understands that he'll do whatever it 555 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 6: takes to win. I think he's like a lot of 556 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 6: the great quarterbacks out there. They're prepared to do whatever 557 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 6: it takes to find a way win. 558 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 8: Denzel Ward, I think he had just eleven snaps on Sunday, 559 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 8: just what's the plan with them? And how is he physically? 560 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 6: You know, each injury is different. Will continue to work 561 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 6: with every guy and rehab and you know, I think 562 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 6: injuries get better with rest and with time, and I 563 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: think this. 564 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: Is no different. 565 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 9: Kevin. 566 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 10: I know last week you guys had more penalties than 567 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 10: you wanted, and then kind of replicated that again in 568 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 10: week two. With that being a point of emphasis, I'm 569 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 10: sure for you guys this week, how do you coach 570 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 10: up those penalties, especially the legal shifts and some of 571 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 10: those offensive holdings that took you guys back behind the 572 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 10: six more. 573 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 9: Than he'd like. 574 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, really disappointed there, Cam. We need to be better 575 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 6: in that area. It's hard to win. We don't need 576 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 6: to make it harder on ourselves, and we did in 577 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 6: a bunch areas. So we can just identify and correct 578 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: keep hammering it and we got but until until we 579 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: do it, we're just going to make life hard and 580 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 6: we don't want to do that. 581 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 10: Is there anything that's ongoing from having to learn from 582 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 10: this this new point of emphasis with those maybe the shifts, 583 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 10: I know there's illegal formations were a little bit more 584 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 10: frequent last week, but is there anything that's carried over 585 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 10: that you're still trying to work through? 586 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 6: You know, not really, we know the rules. An illegal 587 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: shift wiped out a touchdown for them as well, and 588 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 6: so it's so so so important to be about our 589 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 6: business and the more pre snap motion and shifts and 590 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 6: type of things that you do, you really have to 591 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 6: be on top of it. So that's it's a point 592 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 6: of emphasis for us. 593 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, Kevin, you know you just touched about it a 594 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 11: little bit, But is there a silver lining. I know 595 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 11: you want to play clean, but to come out of 596 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 11: a game and get a win when you had so 597 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 11: many self inflicted wounds, you know, beside the penalties, drop passes, 598 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 11: you know, plays that you know are correctable, and and 599 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 11: still get a win. 600 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: Well, I think, like we talked about yesterday, Fred, winning 601 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 6: is hard in the National Football League. So going on 602 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 6: the road playing a good team obviously accomplished our goal 603 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 6: this last week yesterday, but we have to do that 604 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 6: again this week against another good team. So really the 605 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 6: focus becomes making sure that you don't beat yourself because again, 606 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 6: it's hard to get a win in this league. 607 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 9: Yeah. 608 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: On Jack Conklin and Jed Wills, do you expect that 609 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: maybe where both of them could be ready to play 610 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: this week? 611 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 612 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 12: Potentially, Hey, coach, I just wanted to ask with Jack 613 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 12: Conklin how close was he to playing Sunday and just 614 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 12: kind of, you know, was there any thought at all 615 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 12: whether he had a chance to play. 616 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean he's continuing to get close. 617 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 6: We just need to make a decision really, as you 618 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 6: get into through a week, get in the weekend and 619 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 6: decide what's best for the team. But yes, he's getting close. 620 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin, it felt like you went back to your 621 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 8: bread and butter yesterday with the run game. You know, 622 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 8: Dante form in early Jerome Ford, was that by design 623 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 8: or product a game flow and just how do you 624 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 8: think that whole thing responded? 625 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we can. We had some good moments 626 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 6: obviously in the run games, some good moments in the 627 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 6: past game, but we definitely have to play cleaner. I 628 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 6: will tell you we were better on first and second down, 629 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: which is a very very big part of having any 630 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 6: production from the on offense. So we were better, but 631 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 6: there's still we feel like there's still things that we 632 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 6: can do better, certainly when it comes to the run game. 633 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 6: Thanks guys. 634 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, coach from the podium, Austin 635 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: with this, this is the exact way that I would 636 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: use crash out in sports. Jamar Chase crashed out during 637 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: the game on Sunday and it resulted in a fifteen 638 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: yard pedal. Well said out of Austin. 639 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: He did crash out there, that is it is. It's 640 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: kind of nice. I mean it's more to me crashed 641 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: and burned. 642 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: You know. 643 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: Then that goes back to the world the eighties World World. 644 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: You could come up, you could come up with the 645 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: coolest thing ever to say, and you pitch it to 646 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: him and he'd be like, that sucks. It's mid Yeah, middy. Please, 647 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: don't you wish you had my aura? So that's what 648 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: I got last weekend? Don't you wish you had? 649 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: You know what I would tell him, I'd say, I 650 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: hope that you're like. 651 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: He always does it with like a smirk, like he 652 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: always knows that he's full of it. 653 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope. I hope that life works out so 654 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: well for you, NBC, that you can have the aura 655 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: of your father. 656 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: That's that's exactly right. 657 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: You should be so lucky. You could be so lucky. 658 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: You should be so lucky. One thought from every NFL 659 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: game A wild week too. We'll get to it all. 660 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: Coming up next to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you 661 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: by a balley Bet sports winning partner. Your Cleveland Browns 662 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: now live in Ohio on a fifty ESPN. 663 00:30:51,920 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily. It's brought to you by bally Bet. 664 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: Now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 665 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: Boost your game to this season with the vally Bet 666 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: Sports Book, A place your first bet of fifty bucks 667 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: or more than you get one hundred and fifty dollars 668 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: back in bonus bets. Bally Bet, official sports betting partner 669 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: of Your Cleveland Brown's time for one thought around the 670 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: NFL Week two. 671 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: Hello gibbag gentlemen, Happy Tuesday. 672 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 9: It's Tuesday. 673 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: It is, it is the weather beautiful. Couldn't be better. 674 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: Wife is good. 675 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Just got an update from my wife NBC who has 676 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: a game tonight. Apparently crashed out on a field trip 677 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: and now has a hurt ankle. Not the crash out 678 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: of the one where like there's physical he fell, not 679 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: the c Maybe I don't know, it might be. 680 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: So he just crashed. 681 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Maybe just crashed. So now he's got a game. 682 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Threw it up on. 683 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: They had some field trip because it's like Explorer Day 684 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: some nonsense. So they went to like the park for 685 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: the day with a bunch of seventh graders and the 686 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: idiots were playing football. I told my wife, and it's 687 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: failing an intelligence test is all it is. You got 688 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: a game today? 689 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: Dog? Come on, what are you doing? How about you? 690 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: Just like it hurts bad. I'm like, well, I can't 691 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: help you. 692 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: You got a game today? 693 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: Dog. 694 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: You got a game, buddy, Come on, what are we doing? 695 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: It's game day? 696 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Game day? What do we do? 697 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: Let's go? We go out the night before. Yeah, that's 698 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: how it ends poorly, kids, That ends poorly. Yep, not me. 699 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit on Sunday. But that's all right. 700 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: I thrived. 701 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: It was good today. I was invited out by people 702 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: who were crashing out all over town. 703 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: Oh baby, no, no, not having it. Business trip, business trip. 704 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: That's it, all right, Simo, stay in your sea moan 705 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: uh speaking. 706 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: Of seen him since he's been in Baltimore. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh. 707 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hian Susa Brown. 708 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 709 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: That's good. We can make fun of Simon because Ravens 710 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: are zero and two. As we kick things off here 711 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: there is get their first win of the year. They 712 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: beat the rat Birds twenty six to twenty three in Baltimore. 713 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: Nate one thought on week two, as we get it going, Nathan, 714 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: thank you, Sorry, nope, my apologies. It just rolled it 715 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: rolled over. 716 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: What is your dislike of Nate? 717 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: I don't have necessarily a dislike it, because it's a natural. 718 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 4: When he's saying it, it feels like he's saying it. 719 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: I remember one of the the first I think he is. 720 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: One of the first weeks we were doing the show 721 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: and theylled you Nate and you looked at me like, no, please, 722 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: don't do that. I just I don't know's just that's 723 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: a short that you don't like because like Nate Dog 724 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: was a dude, but I was. 725 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: Nate and Nate dogg like you. But I feel like 726 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: that's a kid. 727 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: You think that's a kid. 728 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like Nathan. I'm a grown man. 729 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So kind of like the William Billy thing, 730 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah like that that type a deal, although Billy's aying 731 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: Nate Burlison. Yeah, there's a lot of examples. 732 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a Nathaniel though. 733 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: Would it be Dan Danny like can you be in 734 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: your Is that similar? 735 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 4: David Davy Davy Davey cry like da King of the 736 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: Wild Frontier really was? 737 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. 738 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: I just more I think I guess, like I just 739 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 4: like a I don't know, I prefer Nathan. 740 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: It's so good. I just was curious if something, if something, 741 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: if someone called you that and you're like no, no, no. 742 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: No, I would never. I just when he's calling me, 743 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 4: he's doing no. 744 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: When you were young, if somebody called you, come on, 745 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: Nate Dog had to regulate. 746 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 4: Of course. 747 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: Damn good too. Geek off the street with the steel, 748 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you keep earn your 749 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: keep young. It's fantastic. Uh what are we doing, Baltimore? 750 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: Row knowledge today that you got a lot going for 751 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: the kids. 752 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 9: Uh. 753 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 4: This Vegas team can throw the football and that is 754 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: fun to watch. Gardner Minshew thirty of thirty eight. I 755 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 4: knew he was going to be good there. He's good 756 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 4: enough to be fun and bad enough to not really 757 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: get you where you need to be. But he is. 758 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 4: He's not bad. DeVante Adams and Bowers eighteen catches, two 759 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 4: hundred eight yards and a touchdown. Bowers has been great 760 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: their first round pick. This is just a massively disappointing 761 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: loss for the Baltimore Ravens, who are up ten in 762 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter at home. This is, I might tell you, 763 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 4: this appointing loss. 764 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: We were among the few, and speaking of Nate's Nate Davis, 765 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: who's a buddy mine that works for USA today, is 766 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: among the few along with us who spotted this Ravens 767 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: problem much more than others. We talked about this over 768 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: and over again, about losing somebody big at each level 769 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: that they did. Losing their entire defensive staff. That stuff stacks, 770 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: and that's what you're seeing in Baltimore, and that Derek 771 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: Henry doesn't change who they are, doesn't change they are 772 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: at all at all. So I think their plan was 773 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: that they were going to bludgeon with Derrick Henry in 774 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: November and December. You got to get there first, and 775 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: they didn't do enough to improve that team, and so 776 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: they kind of roop what they sow a little bit here. 777 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 3: That loss of Patrick Queen that might be the biggest. 778 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: Queen McDonald's stone, stone stone. On the back end, they've 779 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 4: lost a lot of guys. He had nine and a 780 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 4: half sacks last year. 781 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, up next to definitely took the paycheck carolt. The 782 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: New York Football Jets notched their first win of the year. 783 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: I had to come back to do it. Luckily, the 784 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: Titans have Will Levis at quarterbacks, so you're good for 785 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: that screw up and the Jets down the Titans twenty 786 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: four to seventeen. Bo Bishop one thought. 787 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: I'll do the Titans side of this. Do you think 788 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: Will Levis in the first two weeks made two of 789 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: the most boneheaded quarterback plays. I mean truly at the 790 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: NFL level. To think that you can get away with 791 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: that stuff if you are Tennessee. Do you think that 792 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: that is salvagable? Do you think he is salvageable based 793 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 2: on those plays because it is who he was. Remember 794 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: at Penn State they would not play him over Trace 795 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: McSorley because McSorley was more accurate and more trustworthy. He 796 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: had to go to Kentucky. He played pretty well there, 797 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: but he had some bonehead and plays at Kentucky too, 798 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: which led him dropping into the second round. He could 799 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: throw the ball. 800 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: Far and he looks like he looks like he looks the. 801 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: Part, but mentally it might not be there. 802 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 4: Oh it absolutely might not be there. But they just 803 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 4: got rid of Malik Willis, So who are they gonna 804 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: play well? 805 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying like, is this kind of the this is 806 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: gonna be a good quarterback. 807 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: Draft now that can bring back Tannel? 808 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: Is this a is this a team you let him play, 809 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: let him struggle, just take him take the L stack. 810 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: The l's I mean time for his Shenanigans. No time 811 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 4: he gave him a what the Callahan was crashing out? 812 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 4: What the house you're doing is crashing out profanity. On 813 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 4: the other side, the Jets are have just been very 814 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: unimpressive to me. Garrett Wilson middle of his numbers are 815 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: very mid. I'll tell you what I thought last week 816 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: one of the most kind of under the radar. I 817 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 4: guess it wasn't that because it made its way to 818 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: me and I wasn't watching every Minnesota availability. But when 819 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 4: they said, you know, did you watch how the Niners 820 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: defended Garrett Wilson? And do you think they give some 821 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: like tells how they're going to try to defend you? 822 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: And did you see what Justin Jefferson said? 823 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: I did not. 824 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: He said, no disrespect, I'm not Garrett Wilson and then 825 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: went and had a ninety seven yard touchdown he did 826 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: in that game. 827 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: Are you switching to that game? 828 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: No? 829 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it was just about Garrett Wilson. But 830 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 4: he's been mid. And yeah, I'm upset about Rogers might 831 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 4: be cooked. He's checked down, Charlie right now. He really 832 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 4: he might be cooked. It's crazy. 833 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 3: Yep, all right, you want Justin Jefferson, You've got Justin Jefferson. 834 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 3: Compliments of Kay Finn. Here's Paul Allen. 835 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 5: Second and nine for the Vikings from their own three. 836 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 5: Darnold under center, play action to Jones, back to pass, 837 00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 5: Bosta picked up dat Scott Jefferson to the. 838 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: Party to the five to the right. 839 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: He's trying to bring down He's so great, so great. 840 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 3: The number of people that are yelling in that booth 841 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: is spectacular. The Vikings twenty three, forty nine ers, seventeen 842 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: debos down now, Oh boy, Nathaniel, what say you? 843 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 844 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 4: A lot of this was a bad loss for them. 845 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 4: They really should have won the game. I mean, you 846 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: look at the fact that party threw for three hundred 847 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 4: nineteen yards average nine yards in attempt. Obviously Darnald averaged 848 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 4: ten yards, but ninety seven of them came on one teh. 849 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 4: But that's how those are things work. What they're missing 850 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 4: right now. Mason is a great runner, and he's gonna 851 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: give them what McCaffrey gave them as a runner, but 852 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 4: he is not a factor in the passing game, or 853 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: at least has not been thus far. And so I 854 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 4: think that had Yuk's been slow to go, they're gonna 855 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 4: need him to stay up in a big, big way now. 856 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: With deebo down the line, though, is a problem. Six 857 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: sacks they gave up. Outside of Trent Williams, the line 858 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 4: is not very good and just an incredible win for 859 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 4: Sam Donald, whose career seems to be, you know, resurrecting, 860 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: and you got to hand it to him. Very impressive. 861 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: I'll take the Minnesota side to this. I just think 862 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: there's some people in the in the league who are 863 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: just really good coaches. And I think Lafloor's a really 864 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: good coach. I think Kevin O'Connell's a really good coach. 865 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: And I think they just get guys ready, and they 866 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: speak well to quarterbacks. They put him in positions to succeed. 867 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 2: You're right, ninety seven of the two sixty eight on 868 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 2: one throw to Jefferson. Other than that, pretty middling. Performingly 869 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: all they needed in this thing, And as long as 870 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: he takes care of the ball and gets it to 871 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: Jefferson a couple of times a game, it's gonna be enough. 872 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: Because they get a pretty good defense, they've got a 873 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 2: good offensive line. Everything else is kind of in place 874 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: for them. I think one thing that's gonna be fastening 875 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: for Minnesota is what do they do with Like if 876 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Donald is a great year, what do you do with 877 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. I mean, gives you power because you have assets. 878 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 4: But like you're fine because you have you're gonna play 879 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy. 880 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: You believe that, I'm then you trade Donald. 881 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: He has a good years on more than a one 882 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 4: year contract. 883 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 884 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 4: Let me look that up right now, good question. 885 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: My guess is now I like Kevin O'Connell. I like, 886 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 2: I like here Kevin. 887 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, he signed a one year, ten million dollars year. 888 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 4: So he's a free agent. 889 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 890 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he'll walk. So he's he's playing, playing the run. 891 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing to try to do what Baker's done, Yes, 892 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 4: and to find. 893 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: And I think there's a path for that. Guys like 894 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 2: you don't have to bail on him, Like Donald's still young. 895 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 4: There is going to be a group of quarterbacks in 896 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 4: what I'll call that Baker zone. So you've got now 897 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 4: sixty million dollar you're my one hundred percent no doubt 898 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 4: franchise guys. Yeah, there's going to be a thirty million 899 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 4: dollar quarterback, which is what Bake is right three for 900 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 4: one hundred, I think thirty to forty ish million, where 901 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 4: you're we can go to the playoffs and be competent 902 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 4: and be serve our fan base. Well, maybe if everything 903 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: goes right, we have a chance to make a run, 904 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 4: but probably not. But we were a better organization. It's 905 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 4: kind of like the Andy Dalton situation with the Bengals. Right, 906 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 4: we can win and where we can win our division, 907 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 4: we can go to the playoffs every year. Are we 908 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: really a threat to win the Super Bowl? 909 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 9: No? 910 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: But at least we're in the dance every year, and 911 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 4: you never know, right, you can't win the super Bowl 912 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 4: without getting to the playoffs. 913 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 2: No. 914 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 3: Up next, a workmanlike effort. And the Los Angeles Chargers 915 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: are two and oh on the football season. They've really 916 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: had two Well I can't call the Raiders cupcakes anymore, 917 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: but no, they man the Carolina Panthers certainly are twenty 918 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 3: six to three. The Chargers beat the Panthers. Bo Bishop one. 919 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: Thought Jim harback and coach, Yes, and he can motivate 920 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: and he gets you to play your way and they 921 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: strangle out games. Herbert had to do nothing. I'm most 922 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: happy for JK. Dobbins though, to have this start to 923 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: a career. He put the image up of him in 924 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: a Chargers jersey when he was a kid, like a 925 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: Ladanian jersey, Like, that's awesome, and he's had nothing but 926 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: bad luck, and you knew the talent was there, so 927 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm mostly happy for her. 928 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 3: Hey, you see, you've had a lot of bad luck. 929 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: Stop doing somersaults into the end zone. I know, I know, listen, dummy, 930 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: I know. 931 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: I know. 932 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 4: Forty four carries for two hundred and nineteen yards five 933 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 4: yards of carry in the touchdown you mentioned from Dobbins 934 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 4: from forty three. 935 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: Like, just imagine if he was still on Baltimore instead 936 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry with him, he just couldn't get healthy there. 937 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 4: And by the way he's made through two weeks, if 938 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: he can play seventeen games, that would certainly be noteworthy. 939 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 4: The other thing in this game to me from a 940 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: charge fact, and then I'll touch on Carolina really quickly. 941 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: Quentin Johnson is the guy that you won in this 942 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 4: offense right now. He's their first round pick last year 943 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 4: from TCU. Herbert and he are developing nice chemistry. Five catch, 944 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 4: fifty one yards, two touchdowns on six targets, So they're 945 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: going to have to throw more than this. They're not 946 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 4: going to run it twice for every time they pass it. 947 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 4: In the future. But he's somebody certainly I would look 948 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: at grabbing and on the other side, twenty six attempts 949 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 4: for eighty four yards. Bryce Young, he got bench THELN 950 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 4: you saw start to get frustrated. I think they were 951 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 4: in danger of completely losing this locker room and they 952 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 4: had to make this switch, and they did it, and 953 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 4: it is a catastrophic failure in every way. 954 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: If I were an NFL team and I really liked 955 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 2: him in the process, I would make a call. 956 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 4: If I'm the Miami Dolphins. 957 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to get him for a bucket of balls. 958 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 4: Don't you think he can run the Miami offense. Yeah, 959 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 4: for sure, Anticipation doesn't have the strongest arm. I'd put 960 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 4: him in that Miami offense. 961 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna stop the revisionist history too, because we 962 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 2: were at the comment every year. There wasn't anybody over 963 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: there who thought CJ more than Bryce Young was getting. 964 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: They were Bryce like it was Bryce and then a drop, 965 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: Well it. 966 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: Was CJ was getting the backlash of the fields fields 967 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 4: and Haskins struggles. He's playing with the best receiving corps 968 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 4: in college football, all of it, and so you know, 969 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 4: he's been great, but anybody who thinks and somebody pulled 970 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 4: up old Jay Glazer scoopage. Yeah, one hundred percent. The 971 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 4: Texans were taking him. So it's wonderful luck that it's worked. 972 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: But there was nobody out there that was take at 973 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 4: the top of this draft that thought. And by the way, 974 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 4: they said, well, Chicago could have just taken c J. 975 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 4: Stroud in this draft. Chicago stayed at one. They were 976 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: gonna they would have taken has taken Bryce Young. Everybody 977 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 4: would have taken Bryce. Yes, exactly wrong. 978 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: The only person that I could say, seems like he 979 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 2: really wanted c J. Shroud was Josh McCown. Josh mc wanted. 980 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: There a question that he wanted c J. 981 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: Stroud. 982 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's it. 983 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Jent's gotta speed it up a little 984 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 3: bit and we'll go a little rapid fire. 985 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 4: Uh, let's carry it in an hour number two given. 986 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go till two o'clock. Nathan Seahawks twenty three, 987 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: Patriots twenty over time Seahawks one of nine teams that 988 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: are unbeaten through the first two games. 989 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give I'm gonna give jirod Mayo some credit. 990 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: He's got this team playing better than I would have expected. 991 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 4: Ramondre Stevenson has been kind of just their do it 992 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 4: all guy hunter, Henriette hundred yards. This one so much 993 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 4: more impressive by them. But I really like this Seattle 994 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: passing attack. Now that they've got they're letting Jackson's this 995 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 4: is this to me was the passing of the torch 996 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 4: game that we were expecting along sixteen targets, twelve catches, 997 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen yards. It's time you got to 998 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: you gotta let him go. This should be a DK 999 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 4: Metcalf JSN show. Lockett has had a great career. He's aging. 1000 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 4: That's fine, he's your third, pretty good third. But I 1001 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 4: thought that was a big kind of development for them 1002 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:24,959 Speaker 4: in this game. 1003 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: See from the Seattle side, like, good job at you, 1004 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: new coach, new regime two and oh start. That one 1005 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 2: was right for the taking in England, is that guy? Yeah, 1006 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: they they were. That was right for the taking for 1007 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: New England to fly across the country to play at 1008 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: one o'clock and they went out there and gutted it 1009 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: out and won. Good job out of them. 1010 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: Up next, probably one of the biggest surprises of the day, 1011 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 3: the Saints are now two and oh, and the NFC 1012 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 3: South looks pretty good here after two weeks. Saints forty 1013 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: four Dallas nineteen team Bob Bishop one thought from. 1014 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: You, well, it's not that they're two and oh, it's 1015 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: that they're two and oh in the manner that they're 1016 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: two and oh. That is stunning about New Orleans. I 1017 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 2: think this is the biggest Nobody had it anywhere. There 1018 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 2: wasn't a single person progamasaking in the NFL that thought 1019 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 2: New Orleans would start the year this year this way. Nobody. 1020 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 2: In fact, a lot of people picked them to lose 1021 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: to Caroline, including me in week one. So they have 1022 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: defied all sorts of logic. I'll be honest with them. 1023 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 2: Watch close up to know exactly how they're able to 1024 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: do it. But you score in every possession that helps. 1025 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean there's been two blowouts. 1026 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 4: They put up thirty five in the first half against Dallas. 1027 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 4: Rashid Shaheed's got a long touchdown every week this season. 1028 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 4: Kamara had four scores in this one. Yeah, they're operating 1029 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 4: at a very very high level. Cowboys. They are one dimensional, 1030 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 4: and I really think that if you are able to 1031 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 4: if for example, I think if the Browns played the 1032 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 4: Cowboys in a couple of weeks. I think the Browns 1033 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 4: would beat the Dallas Cowboys right now, But you didn't. 1034 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 4: You played Week one and you got smoked, and it 1035 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: was an awful performance in many regards. We know that, 1036 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 4: but you bounce back from it was good. They can't 1037 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 4: run the football. Zeke is washed. 1038 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 3: Yep. 1039 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: Their one dimensional team right now. And again I go 1040 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 4: back to what this was more what I expect. I 1041 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 4: think Week one was more of an indictment of our 1042 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 4: performance than it was a coronation of them. I remember 1043 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: getting ready for that game and just thinking they've let 1044 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 4: so much go out the door without bringing very much 1045 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 4: back in that this is not a great roster and 1046 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 4: it's not a great football team. And so I think 1047 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: that kind of showed a little bit more here than 1048 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 4: it did certainly in Week one against US. But I 1049 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 4: think that said more about what we produced on the 1050 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: field in that game than it did about what they 1051 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 4: produced on the field in that game. 1052 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 3: So Shihed, this comes from the g man himself. Eleven 1053 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,959 Speaker 3: touchdowns in his career, average distance on those top. 1054 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 4: Six and it was a lot. Bob's Yeah, that's. 1055 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 3: What a job by you. GiB up next Commi's twenty 1056 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 3: one Austin Seibert seven. 1057 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 4: Field, Austin Cyberg, former Brown. 1058 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 3: Yep, they beat the New York Football Giants eighteen, twenty 1059 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 3: one to eighteen. 1060 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 2: Is the kid named from Oklahoma? 1061 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's with us. It is with the Bengals. 1062 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 4: Was it Detroit? 1063 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: I think? 1064 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: And now maybe has found a home seven for seven. 1065 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 4: By the way, this game would have had the second 1066 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 4: kick return touchdown this year, but a kind of a 1067 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 4: lame holding call erased in Austin Eckler touchdown. This is 1068 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 4: the first time in I think one thousand, one hundred 1069 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 4: and thirty two games in the NFL where one team 1070 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 4: scored three touchdowns more than their opponent and they lost 1071 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 4: in a game where the other team didn't score any touchdowns. 1072 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this was It was very much an odds 1073 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 4: the touchdowns. Yeah, and only eighteen points. 1074 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 2: Strange, very strange. Jane Daniels has been the best of 1075 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: the rookie quarterbacks so far. It's really early. Remember in the. 1076 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 4: Best they got hurt. Their kicker got hurt Gano, that's 1077 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 4: right right before so the Hammer tried one extra point, 1078 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 4: missed it, So then they had to go for two 1079 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 4: twice and didn't get any of it. 1080 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 3: Oh, we'll see the hammer this week. 1081 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,439 Speaker 4: Ye all, we can see the hammer. 1082 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 3: That's it. 1083 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 4: That's it true, that is. 1084 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 2: And he'll never be the same by Sunday. 1085 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 4: By the way, did you see Milik neighbors Saturday night? 1086 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 4: Elak Neighbors getting dable coming over and asked him what 1087 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 4: plays he wants to run? He is, he's somebody who 1088 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 4: has high crashout potential and I think plas yeah, and 1089 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: they are trying to manage that. 1090 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: I think you're right. Crushouts nice, isn't it. 1091 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 4: It's kind of fun. By the way, Danny Dimes, who 1092 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 4: you would if I said to you, here's a quarterback 1093 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 4: in week you know two who went sixteen of twenty 1094 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 4: eight for one hundred and seventy eight yards, two touchdowns, 1095 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 4: no picks, rating of one hundred, ran for another thirty 1096 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 4: two yards, You'd be like, Oh, it's a solid hons. 1097 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1098 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 4: People talk about him like he's Bryce youngrash Yeah, I know. 1099 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 3: Kurt Water praised in the other night on the west 1100 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 3: Wood One broadcast on Sunday. 1101 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 4: Night, Daniels is good. They have got to become a 1102 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 4: better red zone team because they can throw it. He 1103 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 4: was twenty three to twenty. They can run at Robinson 1104 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 4: ran for over one hundred. He had forty this week. 1105 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 4: I think he had seventy last week. The thing that's 1106 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 4: crazy to me is, I don't know what has happened 1107 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 4: with Sarah McLaurin. Eight targets, six catches. Do you know 1108 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 4: how many yards he got with his six catches? 1109 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 2: Bow Bishop less than. 1110 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 4: Forty twenty two catches for twenty two that's three point seven. 1111 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 4: That's like a running back wet a bad day. 1112 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 3: Up Next, Tampa Bay goes to two and oh on 1113 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 3: the air. They go to Detroit City and take down 1114 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 3: the Lions twenty to sixteen. 1115 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: Bow One thought, Tampa Bay. I'm happy for Bake that 1116 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: he found a home. He wasn't great and this one 1117 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 2: lost a couple fumbles through a pick, but he made 1118 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 2: a couple of timely throws, including a big one down 1119 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 2: the sideline to Godwin that was really, really nice. Tampa 1120 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 2: Bay is going to be around a little bit, and 1121 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: I think that the Lions lost their way. They moved 1122 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: the ball up and down the field way more plays, 1123 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 2: as we illustrated earlier. But just sometimes it's just easy 1124 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 2: to just run it in and they got a little 1125 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 2: too cute. So I think with the play calling. 1126 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, is that coaching again 1127 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 3: playing this well? 1128 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 2: He mismanaged the clock too, He did badly. 1129 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 4: Campbell did it tends to come to min afield goal 1130 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 4: and then they would have just needed a field goal 1131 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 4: at the end and they win the game. 1132 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 8: Uh. 1133 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, they twenty six first downs the fourteen four hundred 1134 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 4: and sixty three yards to two hundred and sixteen in 1135 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 4: this game, but they were one of seven in the 1136 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 4: red zone, and so they're going to need to really 1137 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 4: really evaluate that this was a This was a worse 1138 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 4: loss by the Lions than it was a Betcher win 1139 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 4: by the Buccaneers. 1140 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. By the way, you 1141 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 2: listen to a fifty ESPN Cleveland wkn Rgue Karma Brands station. 1142 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 3: Up next Packers sixteen, Colts ten define logic, Yellowstone drops 1143 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 3: another one. The big News after the game, met with Ford. 1144 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm at ball twenty twenty four. 1145 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 2: So this is the big play on Oh you have it, 1146 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 2: go ahead, I've got the cut. 1147 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 13: I asked Malik why he didn't throw the ball on 1148 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 13: that third down, and he told me that Josh threw 1149 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 13: up on the ball. I was like, that's the first 1150 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 13: time I've ever heard that. Matter of fact, official came 1151 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 13: over to me. Sean came over to me and said, 1152 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 13: you know, we saw your center thrown up on the ball. 1153 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 13: Do you want us to take him out next time? 1154 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 13: I said, absolutely, please do that, because I mean, you're 1155 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 13: talking about a critical situation and it's third down and 1156 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 13: I've never had a throw with Bomban on a football, 1157 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 13: so I don't know. I don't think Malik Pride didn't 1158 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 13: appreciate that. 1159 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 3: That's great. 1160 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 4: Peter Lafleur, my coach of the Year, thing is looking 1161 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 4: pretty pretty pretty good. He took a guy who came 1162 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 4: into this game completing thirty five of sixty six passes, 1163 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 4: which is just right over fifty percent. He went twelve 1164 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 4: of fifteen for twelve of fourteen. I'm sorry for one 1165 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty two yards. Twelve of fourteen for one 1166 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty two yards. Incredibly impressive coaching job there. 1167 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 2: Lafleur is elite as a coach. You would be hard for. 1168 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone would argue with you that 1169 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: their backup situation was maybe among the worst in the league, 1170 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 2: certainly bottom third of the league with Malik Willis yep. 1171 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 2: And to get that out of him, I just just 1172 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 2: coaching sometimes. Matters Man. On the other side of it, 1173 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is a fun watch, but he is scattershot 1174 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: man three picks. He is wildly inaccurate, wildly. 1175 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 4: Michael, it comes out Michael Pittman would trade for Gardner 1176 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 4: Minshew in a right heartbeat, right now, Yes, in a heartbeat. 1177 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs either way, kind of a very under the 1178 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 4: radar free agent signing by the Packers. They rode him 1179 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 4: thirty two, one hundred and fifty one yards in this one. 1180 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 3: Yep. Cardinals forty one, Los Angeles Rams ten Bishop. 1181 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: This is my biggest miss of the week. I want 1182 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 2: to and really the Rams in general, they're so broken, 1183 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: so beat up. Now cup out all their lines out, 1184 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 2: No nakula, I mean they're they're washed. 1185 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 4: No cups point, no nakua. 1186 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 2: I know. I said, yeah, yeah, it's done. It's toasts, 1187 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 2: yeah cooked, So they're cooked. But I want to give 1188 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 2: Drew Drew Petsig some flowers. Drew is here a lot. 1189 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 2: He'd come in studio with us a lot, and he 1190 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: worked his way up. He's talking about a tight ends 1191 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 2: coach to his quarterback coach, and he grinded and got 1192 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 2: there and lands in Arizona be an intern for Simon 1193 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: right and he would come in here with us. We 1194 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: had him on all the time. He's probably from the 1195 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 2: coaching staff, one or more regular guests, and he would 1196 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: come in all the time. We talked ball, love talking 1197 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: to him about it. And he's got Kyler playing really 1198 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 2: confidently and playing to his strengths. Marv had one hundred 1199 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: and forty yards and two touchdowns after the first quarter 1200 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: in this game, and then they just stopped because it 1201 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: was done. 1202 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 4: He did something that I think it's only him and 1203 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 4: Ken Anderson former Bengals Quarterbackack. A lot of people say 1204 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 4: should be a Hall of Famer that to throw for 1205 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty yards, run for fifty yards, three touchdowns, 1206 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 4: and a perfect quarterback rating in a game. So Kyler 1207 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 4: Jerseys headed to Canton. By the way, welcome to the party. 1208 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior four for one thirty and two. In fact, 1209 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 4: he joins his dad. I think is the only two 1210 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 4: guys to have something like one hundred and thirty and 1211 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 4: two touchdowns in the first half on three catches. 1212 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 2: We had it in a quarter. 1213 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the first quarter. That's what it is. Let 1214 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: it in a quarter. Trey McBride six for sixty seven. 1215 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: But fantasy owners, he gave you a nice little surprise 1216 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 4: for those of you who did not watch the game. 1217 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 4: They fumbled going into the end zone and McBride fell 1218 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 4: on the ball, and so that's a nice little touchdown. 1219 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 2: You'll take it. 1220 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 4: You'll take it. 1221 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 3: You'll take it a little honey. Next we go to 1222 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 3: Kansas City. Mitch Holtis, the voice of the Chiefs on 1223 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 3: the wolf placement is down. Pucker's kick leg through. 1224 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 14: It is high enough and it is good. Child sas 1225 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 14: City Garrison Pucker another clutch kick against the Bengals and 1226 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 14: the Chiefs win it. At the buzzer twenty six, twenty 1227 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 14: five when the Chiefs got a two and zero on 1228 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 14: the year. 1229 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 3: It was the Chiefs twenty six Bengals twenty five. As 1230 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 3: you heard their Nathan one thought so Rashid Rice. He's 1231 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 3: the clear number one receiver on that team. The loss 1232 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: of Isaiah Pacheco, I think is going to be a 1233 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 3: big one for them. Carson Steele had a fumble in 1234 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 3: this game and I was amazing. Actually went back to him, 1235 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 3: but something to keep an eye on there. And I 1236 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 3: heard Kareem Hunt is getting a visit I talked to 1237 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 3: earlier yesterday when we talked about the game. How they 1238 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 3: were just totally content to sit there and say we're 1239 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: going to kick. 1240 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 4: A fifty one yarder. This is from Pro Football Talk 1241 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 4: Justin Tucker, and we were wondering in the booth, is 1242 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 4: he washed struggled last year? He's zero for two on 1243 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 4: fifty yard field goals. The rest of the NFL, they've 1244 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 4: kicked thirty seven from the fifty Any guesses on how 1245 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 4: many have been made? 1246 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 3: Thirty three, thirty five. 1247 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 4: The NFL outside of jesseic is thirty five of thirty 1248 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 4: seven on kicks of fifty yards or more. 1249 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 2: It's just a lay up now. It was never sport 1250 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: how I just specialization training, like you've been doing that 1251 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: for I just think different. 1252 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 4: Like five years. It's radically different. 1253 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, but I also I wonder how many of 1254 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 2: these guys are you know, we're more open minded with it. 1255 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: It's something where you pick them up earlier. Do you 1256 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: have a soccer background and it's something where you're just 1257 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: used to it. I don't know what it is, but 1258 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 2: I think it's specialization, and I think it's just turning 1259 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: the sport like the science of it. 1260 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 4: Let's just take let's take let's take our guy for example, right, 1261 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins. Yeah, Dustin Hopkins is now ten for ten 1262 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 4: kicking fifty yard field goals for the Cleveland Prior to 1263 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 4: joining the Cleveland Browns, he was fifteen of thirty. 1264 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: So oh, you know, some. 1265 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 4: Really has changed. People are able to do these things 1266 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 4: in the National Football it's thirty five of thirty seven. 1267 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 4: That's what you would be from like inside of forty yards, 1268 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 4: inside of forty yards, you know, ninety five percent kicker. 1269 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 4: That's that to me is the crazy craziest thing ever. 1270 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: I've been talking to you about the discontent down in Cincinnati. 1271 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow after the game did not look pleased. 1272 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: It's just pissed off the whole situation. It's pissed off 1273 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: as I've seen him since the Super Bowl loss. Jamar 1274 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: Chase feels like he was lied to. Hagen Higgins hasn't 1275 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: played like not great down there. Zach's trying to cover it. 1276 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 2: Like he even had a comment about like Jamar was dominant 1277 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 2: in the game, and I'm like, no, are you talking 1278 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: about No he was not, but like he's not pleased, 1279 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 2: so like it's a mess. 1280 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 4: Britt did have one of the most impressive interceptions he'll 1281 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 4: ever see. 1282 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 2: He also did it like after calling out worthy. 1283 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 4: And in coverage of Xavier he did it. Well, yeah, yeah, 1284 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,439 Speaker 4: that was good. 1285 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 3: All right, we got to get the break here. But 1286 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 3: real quick, Steelers thirteen Broncos nine. Pittspuke is two and 1287 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 3: zero and I'm disgusted. 1288 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 2: They did the same thing. They've done the same thing 1289 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: La Flour's doing in Green Bay with Willis, and they 1290 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 2: just basically tell Justin don't don't throw it over the middle, 1291 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 2: throw it to the sides, throw it and scramble plays. Defensively, 1292 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 2: they're great and they're two and zero. So that's just 1293 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: it's what they do. It's great coaching, all of those things. 1294 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 3: Final Oh, are you you're gonna have something? 1295 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 4: No, they're just they have gotten lucky that they've played 1296 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 4: quarterbacks who have been horrific. They have one offensive touchdown 1297 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 4: in two games. 1298 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Yep, they're they should have ad a second. There was 1299 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: one that Pickens should have had. 1300 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 4: That was they're going to run into though, as we 1301 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 4: their schedule is going to become. 1302 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 3: Two worst teams in the league, Carolina Denver. Yeah, had 1303 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,479 Speaker 3: in no particular order. 1304 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 4: Carolina's I think they're in danger of ruining bo Nicks. 1305 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's much to ruin. He's like 1306 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 2: twenty five. 1307 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 4: Ten excited about him. 1308 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much of that knew it? 1309 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh? Sunday Night foosball Texans nineteen Bears thirteen. Nate c. J. 1310 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 4: Stroud is fun to watch. Nico Collins is very fun 1311 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 4: to watch. But there's something you excellent team, you need 1312 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 4: to put teams away. And this game should have been 1313 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 4: put away. The Indianapolis game should have been put away, 1314 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 4: and they are for thus far they are not doing that. 1315 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 2: No, they're not burying people. They're winning despite that, which 1316 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of a Kansas City vibe with them. 1317 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm also thinking ought to be a little bit concerned 1318 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: with the start with Caleb Williams, not just the results, 1319 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: but just offensively, there's not a whole lot of imagination. 1320 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 2: He's running for his life a lot. There's nothing easy. 1321 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 4: Who's secks seven times? 1322 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1323 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 4: Seven times? He's taking a beating. His O line's giving 1324 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 4: him no help. What's starting to happen though. Is DJ 1325 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 4: Moore starting to get very frustrated? Yeah, and that's not 1326 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 4: a good thing. 1327 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: That ain't it? That ain't it? 1328 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Buddy? 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And the first 1355 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 4: thing after further review is after going back and watch 1356 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 4: the tape is the Browns I think may have done 1357 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 4: it again in getting Jerry Judy. I like Jerry Judy 1358 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 4: a lot. He is our leading receiver right now that 1359 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 4: so far this season, but that doesn't tell the whole story. 1360 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 4: Jerry Judy's ability to create separation when you actually get 1361 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 4: to go back and watch route after route after route, 1362 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: even the ones where he doesn't get the ball right 1363 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 4: now is elite. And he is playing like a number 1364 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 4: one receiver. And I think the Browns. As this chemistry 1365 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 4: continues to improve with Deshaun Watson, You're gonna see even 1366 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 4: more and more of that from Jerry Judy. I like 1367 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 4: thought he had a great game in Week two and 1368 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm looking for more of that. I think that it 1369 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 4: is we are very lucky that right now with Amar 1370 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 4: in a little bit of a slump and he's gonna 1371 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 4: break out of it, he's still running beautiful routes that 1372 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 4: Jerry Judy has been a huge, huge addition for this 1373 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns team. 1374 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 9: After further review. 1375 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski, we know, told the team that they were 1376 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 4: going to run the Jerome Ford play on a fourth 1377 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 4: and short, and not only that they were going to 1378 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 4: run it, but that it was going to work. 1379 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 3: Yep. 1380 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 4: There are few times in this league where you will 1381 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 4: see a coach who won a play before it was 1382 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 4: even snapped, and that is exactly what Kevin Stefanski did 1383 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 4: in this play. For those who were able to go 1384 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 4: back and watch it on tape, what you will see, 1385 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna try to see if I can, I 1386 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 4: will describe it to you is that from the formation, 1387 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 4: remember the Browns the first time they had run the 1388 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,959 Speaker 4: sneak right. So you're thinking, Okay, they're thinking it's probably 1389 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 4: gonna be jamis another sneak again. Well, they were obviously 1390 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 4: very very wrong. Situation was fourth and one. By the way, 1391 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 4: the ball was on the Browns thirty seven yard line, 1392 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 4: Brown's own thirty seven on a fourth down. What they 1393 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 4: set up with was a tight formation. They figured they 1394 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 4: were getting manned. They got man They ran Jordan Akins 1395 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 4: from the left side of the formation to the right 1396 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 4: side of the formation. When they did that, when they 1397 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 4: ran in from the left side of the formation to 1398 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 4: the right side of the formation, bo just look at 1399 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 4: this picture. 1400 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 3: What do you see there? 1401 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 4: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten 1402 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 4: jags are from Joel Betonio to the right ye outflanking them, 1403 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 4: and the only one that's not on the screen is 1404 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 4: a corner who's manned a man right there on Citi 1405 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 4: tillman outflanking them. Immediately before the balls snapped. You've got 1406 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 4: James Hudson, You've got Nick Harris. And so when this 1407 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 4: play is run, immediately they thought it was a sneak 1408 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 4: to the right, you have basically a complete wall sealed 1409 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 4: off and there are no jags, and there goes Jerome 1410 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 4: Ford running for Daylight. That is an incredible job of scheme. 1411 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 4: It's an incredible job of deception as well. Dron Ford, 1412 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 4: by the way, he hit over twenty one miles per 1413 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 4: hour assist of any running back in the league last week, 1414 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 4: and he said he wishes he was faster. I don't 1415 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 4: know much faster he was going to be, But an 1416 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 4: incredible job of scheme, play calling, and as I said, 1417 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 4: Stones to call that on your own thirty seven in 1418 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 4: a tight, tight game. So that was a huge play. 1419 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 4: And I think it goes to the Browns. We're able 1420 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 4: to impose little will physically because of what Deontay Foreman 1421 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 4: really brought to the team in this game. 1422 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 9: Next, after further review. 1423 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson should have had significantly better stats than he 1424 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 4: had in this game, but did so many things that 1425 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 4: were good in structure and showed some of that magic, 1426 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 4: that houdininess that made him so special in Houston. Are 1427 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 4: there ways to go in these games? 1428 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 1429 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Can we become a team that throws for two hundred 1430 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 4: fifty yards every week? Absolutely with this talent and getting 1431 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 4: David jokuback. But I thought DeShawn Watson had one of 1432 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 4: his best games that necessarily didn't show up in the 1433 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 4: stat sheet the way that say Tennessee did, or the 1434 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 4: way say the second half against Baltimore did. But this 1435 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 4: was a very well quarterback game. And this Browns team 1436 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 4: right now leads the NFL in two categories penaltilties overall 1437 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 4: penalties by five, offensive penalties by a mile, and dropped passes. 1438 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 4: You want your quarterback to be putting up big numbers, 1439 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 4: and you want this to be lighting up the scoreboard. 1440 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 4: The self inflicted wounds have got to stop. You cannot 1441 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 4: be here. We were the second most penalized team in 1442 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 4: the league. We didn't reach the number of penalties that 1443 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 4: we have right now twenty four until the fourth quarter 1444 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 4: of the fourth game, and we've done it through two. 1445 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 4: We have to get better at that. We have got 1446 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 4: to clean that up. But if you do, I think 1447 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we're going to be a team 1448 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 4: that can really score the football into Shaun's gonna be 1449 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 4: putting up some very very good numbers next after further review, 1450 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 4: all right, we're changing it over to the defensive side 1451 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 4: of the football in this one and the first one. 1452 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give to our three what I call box players. 1453 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,439 Speaker 4: Just a phenomenal game by the three guys who play 1454 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 4: down near the line of scrimmage most often for the 1455 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns at the second level, and that those are 1456 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 4: your two linebackers, Jordan Hicks and Jeremiah Usu Korromoa, and 1457 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 4: that is also Grant Delpit. Here are the stats. Joka 1458 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 4: seven tackles, two tackles for a loss. Delpit six tackles, 1459 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 4: two tackles for loss. Those are in run place. Jordan 1460 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 4: Hicks three tackles, a sack on a blitz, a tackle 1461 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 4: for a loss, two passes defense, two quarterback hits which 1462 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 4: actually led the team in this game. Those three at 1463 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 4: the second level. Then it kind of talks a little 1464 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 4: bit about what the NFL used to be versus what 1465 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 4: it is now. The Brown's now at the second level 1466 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 4: when they go single high, middle of the field close 1467 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 4: have Grant Delpit and Joka, along with Hicks, who's not 1468 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,679 Speaker 4: a big linebacker himself. You have three guys who can run, 1469 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 4: three guys who can knife in, three guys who are 1470 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 4: good tacklers and can make plays in the backfield. And 1471 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 4: that's why the Browns did a good job ultimately against 1472 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 4: the ground game. Of the Jacksonville Jags this one. They 1473 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 4: limited them to just seventy eight yards rushing and now 1474 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 4: a couple of those came. They had some chunk plays. 1475 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 4: I'm talking about just the running backs. But take the 1476 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 4: twenty yard away from ETN and I know you can't. 1477 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 4: You allowed one big play there, but it was twelve 1478 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 4: for thirty twelve for thirty two under three yards of carry. 1479 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 4: They did a very very good job in this game, 1480 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,640 Speaker 4: and I thought that was very important to how the 1481 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 4: Browns were able to get. 1482 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 9: This win next after further review. 1483 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 4: So we went into this one and we didn't really 1484 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 4: have a clear picture of what the rotation was going 1485 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 4: to be. But for a guy who only played eleven 1486 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 4: snaps in this game defensively, which is unfortunate, Denzel Ward 1487 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 4: made a very big impact on the field. He was 1488 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 4: phenomenal in those snaps. The guy that you have to 1489 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 4: give a little bit of credit to, though, who I 1490 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 4: thought really stepped up with him off the field, ended 1491 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 4: up playing fifty one steps was cam Mitchell. Cam Mitchell 1492 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 4: has been very very good for the Cleveland Browns in 1493 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 4: situations in which he's been called upon for a second 1494 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 4: rounder for a second year I'm sorry, fifth round pick. 1495 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 4: That is really an important important thing to see him 1496 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 4: come in and be able to make the kinds of 1497 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 4: plays that he has in important moments, whether it be 1498 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 4: in coverage, whether be and run support is a big 1499 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 4: deal for this Cleveland Browns football team. And you've got 1500 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 4: to be very impressed with what he has brought to 1501 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 4: this team because you were counting on having Denzil out 1502 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 4: there the whole time against a very good passing attack, 1503 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 4: but you didn't. And I thought that cam Mitchell really 1504 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 4: stepped up. And again, we don't win this one without 1505 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 4: cam Mitchell. 1506 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 9: Next after further review. 1507 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 4: Great job by Jim Schwartz and varying our fronts and 1508 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 4: our pass rushes and our blitz and that's why you had. 1509 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 4: Miles got a sack. Quentin Jefferson got a sack. Alex 1510 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 4: Right beat a double team with the most unbelievable spin 1511 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 4: move you'll ever see. We talked to him or swim move. 1512 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we talked to him about that yesterday. He 1513 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 4: had a sack, as did Jordan Hicks. I really liked 1514 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 4: what they did there, but you cannot play good defense 1515 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 4: on the road without your back end playing well. And 1516 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 4: I already talked about Cam Mitchell stepping in. You gotta 1517 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 4: tip your cap to Ronnie Hickman. The last time we 1518 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 4: saw Ronnie Hickman play meaningful snaps was against Houston the playoffs. 1519 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 4: It was not his best game. Then we see him 1520 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,759 Speaker 4: in the playoffs lined up in the slot against Dontavian 1521 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 4: Wicks and he gives U a sixty five yard touchdown, 1522 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 4: hurts his back. We don't really see him again. He 1523 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 4: came in forty two snaps, played very very well in coverage, 1524 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 4: did not give up a reception in coverage, manned the 1525 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 4: middle of the field well, took away some of the 1526 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 4: deep looks that you know Trevor Lawrence was hoping to hit. 1527 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 4: And so Ronnie Hickman absolutely great job in this game. 1528 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 2: And finally next after further review. 1529 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 4: I am upset with myself that on the broadcast it 1530 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 4: and they didn't show a replay of it for whatever 1531 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 4: reason I wish they did. For incorrectly assigning the giant hit. 1532 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 4: I thought it was Sam Kamara based on the way 1533 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,679 Speaker 4: that he celebrated, and he was right there. Now, Sam 1534 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 4: Kamara was right, he was play adjacent. But the actual 1535 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 4: leveler of the boom who crashed out Tank Bigsby was 1536 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 4: none other than Winston Reed, who was elevat from the 1537 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 4: practice squad last week out of Weber State. Spent many 1538 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 4: years in college. They call him kind of like their 1539 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 4: Matt Adams, and he was the one who had that 1540 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 4: huge hit there on on that play. He had a 1541 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,759 Speaker 4: ninety one at Pro Football Focus, a ninety one special 1542 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 4: team's grade, which was I can that's got to be, 1543 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 4: if not the best, one of the top in the 1544 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 4: NFL last week. Also Kaliki Hudson a little side shout 1545 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 4: out that we just signed off of New Orleans preak 1546 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 4: squad was great and special teams as well. But Winston Reid, 1547 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 4: you want to come in and make an impact, he 1548 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 4: did that. And for people wondering the rule with the kicker, 1549 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 4: he can't cross the fifty until the ball is caught 1550 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 4: or it touches the ground. Yeah, and so we got 1551 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 4: just slow rolled a little bit there. 1552 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: Just slower roll, good Jevie of you. And that was 1553 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 2: after further review. We'll go around the league. Coming up 1554 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 2: next to to clear the brown stay on a fifty 1555 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,440 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland. 1556 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Ballely bet Now 1557 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland, part of. 1558 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 2: One of those passionate fan bases in the National Football League, 1559 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 2: joined Next Gen STM presented by Ticketmaster. The official wait 1560 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 2: list of your Cleveland Browns. Being next Gen STM is 1561 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 2: the best chance you have to become a season fit 1562 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 2: ticket member in future seasons. Is a Cleveland Browns dot 1563 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 2: com slash next Gen STM to reserve you day time 1564 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,839 Speaker 2: to go around the league, presented by leaf Filter, official 1565 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 2: gutter guard of your Cleveland Browns. 1566 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,640 Speaker 3: Hello, give well college football four downs time, Loco Boa Onday, 1567 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,879 Speaker 3: let's trying to get down here. First down? 1568 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 4: Can I give my completely uneducated answers and see yes, 1569 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 4: yes where they got Absolutely go first? 1570 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 2: You go first, all right? 1571 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,679 Speaker 3: Say arch Manning has to start the next two weeks. 1572 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 3: He came in lit the world on fire against the 1573 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 3: Little Sisters of the Poor. On Saturday EXAs San Antonio. 1574 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 3: He beats Mississippi State in Oklahoma. What do you do 1575 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 3: if you're Texas on ten nineteen when Texas hosts Georgia 1576 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 3: zigura Quin, yours is your quarterback. 1577 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 4: That's it, period. 1578 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 2: So a little bit of nuance to this. He actually 1579 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 2: gets Louisiana Monroe, then Mississippi State, then bye, and then Oklahoma. 1580 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 2: That's the next four weeks. Yeah, so it's leewel Uel, Monroe, 1581 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 2: then It'ssissippi State, then it's Oklahoma, but there's a bye 1582 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 2: before the Ou game on the twelfth. Then they played 1583 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 2: Georgia on the nineteen, so they go Red River Shootout 1584 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 2: then Georgia. Arch Banning was sensational. He was twelve or 1585 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 2: fourteen in the game. He had four touchdowns. It is 1586 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 2: incomprehensible to me that they have two first round pick 1587 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 2: quarterback talents. And I think you can make that delineation 1588 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 2: on Arch knowing what we know about his pedigree, knowing 1589 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,799 Speaker 2: what he was as a recruit. The fact that he's 1590 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 2: completely fine just sitting for two years crazy when he 1591 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 2: could be starting. He could have be the starting quarterback 1592 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Alabama last year. 1593 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 4: Ohio State anyway, What if he came to Ohio State 1594 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 4: this year? What if it's the Arch Man? 1595 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 2: Yes, could have. So the whole thing's crazy. Here's the 1596 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 2: real problem though. If he plays and Quinn is a pro, 1597 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 2: they're both first round guys. But it's an oblique injury, 1598 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 2: and so what does that mean? 1599 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 3: Correct? 1600 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 2: How long could he be out. Here's the beautiful thing, 1601 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 2: because of a twelve team playoff, they could lose to 1602 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: Oklahoma or Georgia and still be fine. They're gonna be 1603 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 2: fine if Texas goes ten and two. They're making the playoff, 1604 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 2: so there isn't the pressure to insert him back. I 1605 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 2: actually think the quicker they get yours back, the better, 1606 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 2: then it's not an infighting situation. Because my guess is 1607 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 2: there's plenty of people who really like Manning and like 1608 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 2: the way he distributes the ball around. So it's a 1609 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 2: good problem to have first world problems, but it could 1610 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,520 Speaker 2: be a problem for them next. 1611 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 4: Second, they would consider benching yours. 1612 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily benching yours. I just think 1613 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 2: they there's not an example of this of like two 1614 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,879 Speaker 2: first round picks at quarterback on the same college team. 1615 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore, guys, Bolt, It's nuts. It is 1616 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 2: absolutely nuts. The most close example we can think of 1617 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 2: this as Baker and Kyler. Kyler sat for a couple 1618 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,679 Speaker 2: of years waiting for Baker at Oklahoma, but nobody thought 1619 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Kyler was gonna be what Kyler. Nobody thought Baker was 1620 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 2: going to be the number one pick. Well we thought 1621 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 2: it not to be the number one pick, but he 1622 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 2: was one of the more decorated college quarterbacks ever. So 1623 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 2: like Kyler waited, and that's what this is. It's strange. 1624 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Okay, second down, Michigan has a new QB. Doesn't matter. 1625 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 3: Wolverine's host USC Saturday at three thirty. 1626 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 4: As a girl. No, it doesn't matter. Michigan put together 1627 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 4: their ultimate team last year they won the national title. 1628 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh is gone. It's not gonna matter. I don't 1629 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,879 Speaker 4: know why they never have that great quarterback. Although McCarthy 1630 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 4: was good, and we'll see what he becomes in a row. 1631 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 4: But that's kind of been one of the failures, I 1632 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 4: would say of their recruiting situation. Now, I don't believe 1633 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 4: that it does matter. 1634 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Here's why it matters a little. Alex Orgy's now the 1635 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 2: quarterback at Michigan. He gives it identity, so. 1636 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 4: He can't throw it, but he's gonna run. 1637 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 2: But he can run, and so if he is a 1638 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 2: threat to run, then Donovan Edwards can run off of that. 1639 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 2: That's good enough for you to win most of your 1640 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 2: Big ten games. It might be good enough for them 1641 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 2: to be USC. The other way, they didn't have the 1642 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 2: threat at quarterback to run and that kid couldn't throw 1643 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 2: it either, So this they can do one thing. 1644 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,640 Speaker 4: I read it as does it matter like, do they 1645 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 4: have a chance to be a program of consequence this year? 1646 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Might? 1647 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 8: No? 1648 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter? 1649 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 3: No? 1650 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 2: No, no? Their frisk year against? 1651 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 3: Which Florida team is worse boa with your expertise in 1652 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 3: the Sunshine State Florida, Florida State. 1653 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 2: Which team is worse for Florida program is worse off? 1654 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 4: Florida State? 1655 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 2: Which program is worse off for? Which team is worse 1656 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 2: this year? 1657 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 3: All right, we'll start with which team is worse this year? 1658 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 3: Florida State's worse this year? Yes, Florida is worse off 1659 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 3: as a program. I think you make an argument that 1660 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Florida is not a great program. They just got lucky 1661 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 3: with Herbert Meyer and Steve Spurrier, because when they don't 1662 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 3: have those two guys, they aren't much. Now, the Florida job, 1663 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 3: they have a five star recruit is a true freshman 1664 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 3: named DJ Legway. So whoever gets that job, if they 1665 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 3: can convince him to stay, they have a chance. Florida 1666 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 3: State did what you said Michigan did. They went all 1667 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 3: in on last year, they spent all the money on portal. 1668 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 3: They put their best team together and then their quarterback 1669 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Gack got hurt towards the end of the season. They 1670 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 3: missed the playoffs despite being undefeated and conference champions. So 1671 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 3: they went all in last year. But I think that 1672 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 3: Norvelle's a good coach and I think program wise they'll 1673 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 3: be fine. 1674 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 2: I think Florida is blown in the wind. 1675 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 3: Final one fourth down game of the week for Week 1676 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,640 Speaker 3: four in college football. 1677 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,720 Speaker 2: That's one of them. Is in the thing Wolverine's hosting USC. 1678 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 4: Wolverine. There is Texas playing Mississippi State this week or. 1679 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,679 Speaker 2: No U Ell Monroe. The two best games are USC 1680 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 2: Michigan and Tennessee at Oklahoma Tennessee. So that's Josh Heipel 1681 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,560 Speaker 2: going back to Norman uh he won the national time championship. 1682 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,679 Speaker 2: Is the quarterback under Bob Stoops there there's been a 1683 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 2: not necessarily everybody rowing in the same direction. Between Hypel 1684 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,600 Speaker 2: and Oklahoma. He has built a bit of a juggernaut, 1685 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 2: young juggernaut. At Tennessee, they got the eight million dollar 1686 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 2: quarterback Nico alam illami Eva and he's been great. They 1687 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 2: get a lot of weapons around him, so the Mighty 1688 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 2: Valls going to Norman could be an interesting one. Seven 1689 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 2: and a half point favorites in that game. Yeah, it's 1690 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,760 Speaker 2: down to seven, down to seven, down to seven, still huge, 1691 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 2: huge for a team going to Norman. 1692 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Utah, Oklahoma State. 1693 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,719 Speaker 2: Maybe I can't worry about these leagues that aren't serious leagues. 1694 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 2: The Big twelve in the acc. 1695 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 3: Ohio State, it's a forty and a half point favorite 1696 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 3: over guess where. 1697 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 2: Big Noon is Columbus, Columbus, Columbus or Ohio State. Marshall 1698 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 2: so real quickly. I don't want to go up on 1699 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 2: a soapbox here because I know we we're up against it. 1700 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 2: But Big Noon goes to games that are on Fox 1701 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 2: to promote those games. College Games Day goes to the 1702 01:19:58,760 --> 01:19:59,599 Speaker 2: best game of the week. 1703 01:19:59,720 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 4: Yep. 1704 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: Like Big Noon is in partnership with the Big Ten. 1705 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 2: They should be at USC Michigan. 1706 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 3: We can go a little longer. That's CBS spark Top 1707 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 3: ten to tomorrow. 1708 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 2: That's a CBS game, that is a CBS game. But 1709 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 2: they should be at USC Michigan. That's where they should be. 1710 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,519 Speaker 2: Game Day should be at Tennessee at Oklahoma. That's how 1711 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: that should work out. And instead they're in Columbus for nonsense. 1712 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:22,879 Speaker 2: That's nonsense. 1713 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 3: That's I mean Texas A and MBG and AMAZONI a 1714 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 3: twenty three point favorite. 1715 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 2: Honestly, the coolest thing that happened in college football last 1716 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 2: weekend was Toledo going down to Mississippi State and putting 1717 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 2: it on vote racing. That's Jason kandall local guy. It's 1718 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 2: a guy who's to me, Michigan should hire him to 1719 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 2: be the head coach at Michigan if it doesn't work 1720 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 2: with your own more. I think he's that good, and 1721 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 2: I think it illustrates what happens. There's these programs that 1722 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 2: are in the power too. You can make a run 1723 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 2: at it, and then like if if it's not lining 1724 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,680 Speaker 2: up for a lot of them, then you kind of 1725 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 2: have to punt on a year because you can't ford 1726 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 2: to nil these kids over and over again. So you 1727 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 2: kind of punt on a Year's what ends up happening. 1728 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 2: And I think Mississippi State's an example of that. Like 1729 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,679 Speaker 2: they looked around, Mississippi went all in this year. They're 1730 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 2: a top six team in the country with Lane Kiff, 1731 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,640 Speaker 2: and they said, we can't, we can't compete with that, 1732 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,679 Speaker 2: So let's sit this year out and let's go back 1733 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 2: at it in two years. That's what Florida State's doing. 1734 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 2: They went all in last year, but they can't afford 1735 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 2: to do it year in and year out like Ohio 1736 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 2: State cam, like Georgia can, like Texas A and M 1737 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 2: Texas can can't, So you're gonna get a little bit 1738 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 2: of ebb and flow. Meantime, a place like Toledo with 1739 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 2: a great coach who's built a really stable program, as 1740 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,799 Speaker 2: a bunch of juniors and seniors who have been around 1741 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 2: and know how to play together. 1742 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 3: And now if you're the MAC, you've got wins over 1743 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 3: Notre Dame in Southeast Conference. 1744 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that matchup is. October nineteenth, Northern 1745 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 2: Illinois goes to Toledo, or it might be vice versa, 1746 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 2: but they play on October nineteenth, and it's possible that 1747 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 2: they're both would be ranked a MAC on MAC both 1748 01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 2: ranked because NIU is ranked. So if Toledo can get ranked, 1749 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: you could have MAC ranked versus ranked, and you'd say, well, 1750 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,439 Speaker 2: college game Day should be there well that same week 1751 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,640 Speaker 2: as Texas against Georgia, so they won't be, but so 1752 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 2: that that's a big showcase for the MAC to have 1753 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 2: if that can happen. 1754 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 3: Game Day, first ever Mac game. Was it a beg 1755 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 3: for Josh Harris BG Northern Illinois? 1756 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember there at Western Michigan when PJ 1757 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 2: was up there under herb, under herb. Yeah, there's talk 1758 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 2: that Herb the people at Florida trying to scratch some 1759 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 2: nickels together to bring her back. 1760 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 3: Probably should it. 1761 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 2: He's not going back to that's not dealing with nil. 1762 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 3: No best life right now. 1763 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his whole thing, and Saban's whole thing was 1764 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 2: the control. You can't, dude, look. 1765 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 3: At Saban, Saman. 1766 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 2: You can't. 1767 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 3: Can McAfee's feeding Sabin tomahawk pieces like he's singing songs. 1768 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 3: He's singing with Darius Rutger. Come on, Saban's living his 1769 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 3: best life. 1770 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,320 Speaker 2: There's no question. We were watching the uh we were 1771 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 2: watching Game Day on Saturday morning and they're in Columbia 1772 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 2: for South Carolina against LSU, which is a really good 1773 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 2: game turned out being a good game, and Darius Ruckers 1774 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 2: singing wagon Wheel and everyone's having the time of their life. 1775 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 2: And my wife says to NBC, She's like, boy, that 1776 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 2: be fun to go to school down there, wouldn't it 1777 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 2: and I said, well, yeah, all of them. And it 1778 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,559 Speaker 2: kind of hit me that along with the SEC being 1779 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 2: on CBS for all those years in a national window 1780 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 2: and turning it into a national conference college game Day, 1781 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 2: being live at SEC campuses for thirty years, has created 1782 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 2: this incredible want to be a part of the flavor 1783 01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 2: of all of that. Oh yeah, that's real. In our 1784 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 2: little town. There's a dozen kids last year in the 1785 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 2: senior class who ended up at Alabama and Kentucky and 1786 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 2: Georgia and South Carolina. When I was in the South, 1787 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 2: nobody wanted to go to Alabama except for people from Alabama. 1788 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, And now it's become like this transient 1789 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 2: thing where all these kids from the North they want 1790 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 2: to be a part of it. And it's football. It's 1791 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 2: the football that drives it. Football is the front porch 1792 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 2: of the university. I want to be part of the winning. 1793 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 2: I want to go to the games. I want to 1794 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,600 Speaker 2: break life all it's it's a huge selling point for 1795 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 2: those universities. You see it right there, you go there, 1796 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 2: you go there, you what we. 1797 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 3: What are we doing? We'll go around the NFL, the 1798 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,280 Speaker 3: NFL news here before we. 1799 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 2: We got We'll go around the NFL coming up next, 1800 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 2: Listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN. 1801 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bawley bed 1802 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 1: Now live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1803 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 2: Howard Hannah, official real estate provider of your Cleveland Browns 1804 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 2: Exclusive buyer Agent, is there to help you navigate the field, 1805 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 2: save time and money, score that winning touchdown, a new home, 1806 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 2: win big with the leader in real estate. Visit Howard 1807 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 2: Hannah dot com slash go Browns Today for more. As 1808 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 2: we do go around the league. Couple of notes. Packers 1809 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 2: become the first franchise to eight hundred wins with the 1810 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 2: win over Indianapolis over the weekend. Which one would you 1811 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 2: bet to be the first to nine hundred? 1812 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 4: Is anybody close? I would have to know where how 1813 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,719 Speaker 4: close anybody is? The eight hundred? 1814 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,759 Speaker 2: I'm getting it right now? Well, all time NFL wins, 1815 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,600 Speaker 2: all right, here we go. Well, I'd rather just have 1816 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,639 Speaker 2: had a list. Let's just get me where I need. 1817 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess the Packers, all. 1818 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 2: Right, So most wins. Here we go, Packers eight hundred, 1819 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 2: Bears seven ninety three, Packers still, Packers still And then 1820 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: a huge gap. So Packers is going to be the 1821 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 2: right answer. The Giants seven twenty one, So that's a no. 1822 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 4: So it's either the eighty game lead. 1823 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 2: It's either the Bears or the Packers. Ye, and I 1824 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 2: would roll with the Packers all day on that. Pittsburgh 1825 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 2: is fourth despite playing about two hundred less games. They're 1826 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 2: fourth with six seventy one. Uh, Commy's six twenty nine, 1827 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 2: Eagles six twenty four, Rammut six fourteen, Lions five ninety one. 1828 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Think about how little success the Lions have had and 1829 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 2: they have five hundred ninety one just because they've been 1830 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:02,799 Speaker 2: around forever. 1831 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 3: You're one of those steep's better around forever. Man. 1832 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 2: Uh, that's certainly the way that it works. 1833 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well news out of Pittsburgh, 1834 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know if he has I 1835 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 4: did see this, Gibbet. 1836 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals have played the third most games in league 1837 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: history because they were the Chicago Chicago Cardinals to Saint 1838 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals. So it's Bears, Packers, Cards, Giants, Lions have 1839 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 2: played the most games in history. 1840 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:26,599 Speaker 4: Wow. 1841 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, justin fields running it back. 1842 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Tomlin were kind of in the same posture 1843 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 4: as we were last week with Russ. As I sit 1844 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 4: here today, Russ is not scheduled to be a full 1845 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,920 Speaker 4: participant in practice Wednesday, So are readying a plan that 1846 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 4: features Justin and his readiness. That's a real quote. We'll 1847 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,720 Speaker 4: follow Russ throughout the week, and if his participation gets 1848 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 4: to a level and participation and quality where we should 1849 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 4: consider him, we'll delve into that at that time. And obviously, 1850 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,720 Speaker 4: when that happens, it is a component of the consideration. 1851 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 2: Bo Are you sure that Russell Wilson can do what 1852 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,920 Speaker 2: Justin Fields is doing, albeit as minimal as he's doing 1853 01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 2: better than Justin. 1854 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 4: Fields, I'm not. He certainly can't give him the running party. 1855 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,800 Speaker 4: I had imagined he could maybe throw the ball a 1856 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 4: little bit better, but he's checked down, Charlotte, he is said, 1857 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 4: as I sit here today's not schilled. Will be a 1858 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 4: full participant practice tomorrow and practice. It's funny, and so 1859 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 4: we're reading ourselves around. Justin will stay in that mindset 1860 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 4: until something else happens. Hypotheticals is a waste of time. Now, 1861 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 4: I think Justin Fields has done a very very good job. 1862 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 4: I also don't think that they necessarily, you know, they 1863 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 4: didn't score a touchdown against the Falcons. By the way, 1864 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 4: Jesse Bates letting him walk. The play that he made 1865 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,559 Speaker 4: to end that game, he was playing single high safety 1866 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 4: and got all the way across the field to intercept 1867 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 4: that ball from Vant is just incredible. 1868 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,600 Speaker 2: Let him walk for nothing, nothing. Yeah, they do the 1869 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 2: same thing with Higgins. Do the same thing with Higgins. 1870 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 2: He's gonna walk for nothing. 1871 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. This is gonna be a good This 1872 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 4: is going to be a good test for for fields. 1873 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 4: I mean, they've got. 1874 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 2: Here's their next three, Chargers at home at Colts, Cowboys 1875 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 2: at home. That's their next three. So they should be 1876 01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 2: to win one of those. 1877 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 4: And I think they will. Think they'll be three and two. 1878 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Should beat Indy, Yeah, yeah, And I think they'll get 1879 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,640 Speaker 2: the Chargers a tough game just because their defense. 1880 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,920 Speaker 3: Is stout, very very stiff. 1881 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there you go. Oh e oh, buddy, 1882 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 2: Snoop Huntley. He's with the h He's with the Miami. 1883 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,760 Speaker 2: So they went that direction. You thought maybe Tannehill, but 1884 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,879 Speaker 2: they I think they liked that guy, Sky Thompson. 1885 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 4: I mean him, they must. Snoop Huntley has some very 1886 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 4: positive traits. I don't know that they necessarily sync up 1887 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 4: with what Mike McDaniel wants to do in that offense. 1888 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 4: That actually puzzled me a great deal. 1889 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, strange. 1890 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 4: That's about timing, rhythm, accuracy, pocket passing more so than 1891 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 4: it is get out of jail free ability. 1892 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 2: Agreed. Agreed. They still have not Tannehill anything very good. 1893 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 4: They should really trade for Bryce. Yeah, that's what they should. 1894 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,800 Speaker 2: They should. That'd be a good play for them, all right, 1895 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,599 Speaker 2: So much more to come to clear The Brons Daily 1896 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 2: on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1897 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by now Live in 1898 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,760 Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1899 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 2: Do Yourself a Personal Favor, joined z and geron Thursday night, 1900 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,640 Speaker 2: seven to eight, the second Kevin Stefanci Show remote of 1901 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 2: the year. It's powered by bud Light. The guys will 1902 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 2: be live at West Park Station in Cleveland's Cams Corners neighborhood. 1903 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 2: Stop out and meet Brown's rookie guard, Zach Zinter. This 1904 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 2: is the location where Boots he cried because I had 1905 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 2: chomps with me, right, Wasn't this it? When I had 1906 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 2: when I was doing the. 1907 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,440 Speaker 4: Show, were in the background like up on a little. 1908 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like face time with chomps. 1909 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 4: And he started boots hand. 1910 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 2: It's like three years ago. So he loved it so much. Said, yeah, 1911 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 2: a big, big field day out of him today. Uh here, 1912 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 2: I'll give you a look at the. 1913 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 4: How's he doing in how's he doing in fortnite field day? 1914 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:49,240 Speaker 11: Like? 1915 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,559 Speaker 3: Is it field day reserved for the spring? Is that 1916 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 3: when they're counting down when they don't do anything for 1917 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 3: the last three weeks. 1918 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 4: Of this field day was yeah, like the literally the 1919 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 4: last week of school. Yeah, we got are getting young 1920 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 4: boot see active. I don't I'm not looking at it. 1921 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 2: And look at the pose in the school in the 1922 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 2: class picture. 1923 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. I just just that's again. It's just 1924 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 4: got it all figured out, got it sorted. 1925 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 2: It really does. Yeah, yeah, there you go. 1926 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 3: All right, that's what gave you. 1927 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,360 Speaker 2: It's got a lot of AA, a lot of aura, 1928 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 2: a lot of aura from the g man. Good job 1929 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 2: out of you, g man. All right, the next levels 1930 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,800 Speaker 2: coming up next. We're back tomorrow. 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