Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 1: and everybody. I don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
Speaker 1: Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'all is Lauryn l Rosa.
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Speaker 1: and all of the conversations that shake the room. Baby.
Speaker 1: Now when we are talking about shaking the room. Today
Speaker 1: was stressful. And I am not on trial. Okay, I
Speaker 1: am not on a federal trial. I am not like
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I'm not the center of attention here.
Speaker 1: At the end of this I will be able to
Speaker 1: go to my family. I will be able to continue
Speaker 1: my life. I'll be able to go to work. I
Speaker 1: am not or I'm not going to prison. But I
Speaker 1: promise you guys today, when that drawer note came in
Speaker 1: saying that there was a verdict reach, we all felt like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like everybody now here is what happened.
Speaker 1: Four or five pm. There was a note that was
Speaker 1: received from the drawors to the court. Now, the way
Speaker 1: that this day is set up, when you're on this verdict, watch,
Speaker 1: all of us are kind of just like sitting around
Speaker 1: and waiting. If you're in the courthouse, you're literally doing nothing.
Speaker 1: Diddy is not in the main court for majority of
Speaker 1: this sitting around and waiting, unless there is a note
Speaker 1: that comes up or something that needs to be addressed to.
Speaker 1: He is in a holding sale, his family is there,
Speaker 1: but his family is in and out of court, lunch room, leaving,
Speaker 1: coming back, different things, because you're literally just sitting. We
Speaker 1: all are just sitting. So when this note came, I'm
Speaker 1: watching via the online because there are court reporters who
Speaker 1: are in the actual court that are able to tweet
Speaker 1: out at real in real time. So today and yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I told myself all of this week, my goal
Speaker 1: is I just want to be in the vicinity of
Speaker 1: the court. So I've literally just been sitting outside of
Speaker 1: court in my car, watching what's happening, but watching other news,
Speaker 1: figuring out you know what I'm want to talk about,
Speaker 1: just doing other things as we're waiting. Because again, if
Speaker 1: you are not if there's not a journal, if there
Speaker 1: is not a conversation or issue brought up, nothing is happening.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just sitting. So we're all just sitting around at
Speaker 1: this point, Diddy's kids are not even in the court room,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think because a lot of us
Speaker 1: expect it for the verdict to be reached tomorrow. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a possibility that it could be today. We
Speaker 1: were prepared for it to be today, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of the media there thought tomorrow, potentially today.
Speaker 1: But I think we all thought tomorrow was going to
Speaker 1: be that day. The slam Dunk day was tomorrow, right,
Speaker 1: So everybody is going insane. Right, We find out that
Speaker 1: there's this jurdinal at four or five pm, So I
Speaker 1: hop out my car. It's pouring down raining too outside
Speaker 1: of the court. We get back in the courthouse. While
Speaker 1: we're on our way in court, and when I say we,
Speaker 1: I was with Armine Wiggins. Me and him are on
Speaker 1: our way back in court. We were literally sitting in
Speaker 1: the car just waiting to see what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Court normally is adjourned around four o'clock. I remember it
Speaker 1: was like three forty five. I'm like, y'all, ain't no
Speaker 1: vertic coming today. We thought it could be today, but
Speaker 1: ain't no vertic coming today. It's probably gonna be early
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, four or five. That no hits. We run
Speaker 1: to the court. We are entering through the main court door.
Speaker 1: Normally going through a side door. We entering through the
Speaker 1: main court door. In front of us is a baby
Speaker 1: Love's mom, and everybody like baby loves Mom. The media
Speaker 1: in front of us, the media behind us. Everybody's like,
Speaker 1: what's happening? What was happening? Because once you enter the
Speaker 1: court door, as you're supposed to turn your phone off,
Speaker 1: I cut my phone on. So I'm checking out the
Speaker 1: online court reporter's x account because I want to know
Speaker 1: what's happening. Four or five pm, there's a note that's
Speaker 1: brought in by the jury, right, and then four nineteen pm,
Speaker 1: the prosecutor hands a piece of paper to Diddy's lead attorney,
Speaker 1: Mark Agnefilio. When he gets that paper, he passes it on.
Speaker 1: He then passes it on to two of his other attorneys,
Speaker 1: including Nicole Westmoreland, and then Diddy is brought into the
Speaker 1: court from a holding cell. So when this happens, originally
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, this is another court note. I literally
Speaker 1: said out loud because we're like when I first got
Speaker 1: this alert that this happened, We're still sitting in the
Speaker 1: car and I'm like this is I said, Oh, they
Speaker 1: just the George just had the Georgie just has another question.
Speaker 1: This is like their fourth court note. They were just
Speaker 1: arguing earlier when they got into court after figuring out
Speaker 1: the drug distribution, conversation about Cassie's testimony, or post on
Speaker 1: Instagram and you know, the domestic violence posts and all
Speaker 1: these things. Right, so I'm thinking this is a normal
Speaker 1: court note. And then they bring Diddy in from the
Speaker 1: holding cell. So then after they bring did in from
Speaker 1: the holding cell, he's standing there with his hands in
Speaker 1: his pocket. His attorneys begin speaking to him. It's so dramatic, right,
Speaker 1: but in real time, it's like, oh, something going on.
Speaker 1: This is not just a regular we got a question
Speaker 1: sh about testimony? What did y'all mean by this? His
Speaker 1: attorneys huddle around him. He then sits down. All attorneys
Speaker 1: are huddled around him. At this point, all eight of
Speaker 1: his attorneys are around him. His hands are on his lap.
Speaker 1: He then starts rubbing his eyes. Now, granted, y'all know,
Speaker 1: like if you're in the overflow room, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to see this. And mind you, while all
Speaker 1: this is happening, we're still going through security trying to
Speaker 1: get into because everybody, even his kids, were working their
Speaker 1: way back into court at this time because nobody expected
Speaker 1: this verdict to come today. We thought it would be
Speaker 1: early tomorrow morning. So his kids, we're not in line
Speaker 1: with his kids, but they're trying to figure out getting
Speaker 1: his kids back there. We have one of his kids
Speaker 1: mothers in line with us in security. We're all living
Speaker 1: off of my tweets at this point. I'm literally talking
Speaker 1: to Baby Love's mom and she's freaking out. She's asking,
Speaker 1: what's happening, what's happening, So I'm telling her what's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody what's happening. We're all trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what this means. Because what they said was we've
Speaker 1: reached a verdict on count two, three, four, and five.
Speaker 1: We are unable to reach a verdict on count one
Speaker 1: as we have jurors with unpersuadable opinions on both sides.
Speaker 1: Now want to break down the counts because I think again,
Speaker 1: from the beginning, people have been very confused about what
Speaker 1: Diddy is actually on trial for count one of racketeering,
Speaker 1: which is at rico. He's charged with two counts of
Speaker 1: sex trafficking involving his ex girlfriends Cassie and then Jane Doe.
Speaker 1: He's charged with three counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. Now,
Speaker 1: remember Diddy pled not guilty, and he turned down a plea.
Speaker 1: So normally, when you turn down a plea and you
Speaker 1: take something to trial, you were saying that whatever those
Speaker 1: mandatory minimums are, right, whatever weight these charges carry at minimum,
Speaker 1: you are willing to go to bat for that. Some
Speaker 1: of these charges is that Diddy is facing. He could
Speaker 1: be in jail for the rest of his life. So
Speaker 1: at the moment that the verdict comes in and there's
Speaker 1: a one decision on count two, three, four, and five,
Speaker 1: but count one, which is the rico, they cannot figure
Speaker 1: out what they decide, Oh Diddy is oh we I
Speaker 1: think we all felt the oh my god, like a
Speaker 1: little gasp went out through the court. From what a
Speaker 1: friend was telling me. Mind y'all, we're still trying to
Speaker 1: get through security, security arguing us down because everybody's bum
Speaker 1: rushing trying to get through security. But of course it's
Speaker 1: a heavy feeling, right because he doesn't know at this point,
Speaker 1: it's the verdict is a mystery to him. At this point,
Speaker 1: he knows that they've reached something a decision. He knows
Speaker 1: that there's one count that they are very strongly divided
Speaker 1: when it comes to making a decision on count one. Now,
Speaker 1: let me tell y'all, So Diddy faces up the life
Speaker 1: in prison if the jury finds him guilty of the
Speaker 1: rocketearan conspiracy, so that Rico he faces up to fifty
Speaker 1: ten years if the jury finds him guilty on sex trafficking,
Speaker 1: and he faces a maximum sentence of ten years if
Speaker 1: the jury finds him guilty of transportation to engage in prostitution.
Speaker 1: So he could either be convicted on all charges. He
Speaker 1: could be found guilty on some of the charges, or
Speaker 1: he could be acquitted on all the charges. I do
Speaker 1: not believe that he's going to be acquitted on all
Speaker 1: the charges. I think that at least at minimum, that
Speaker 1: transportation to engage in prostitution is something that will stick.
Speaker 1: I think that the sex trafficking between the girlfriends, I
Speaker 1: think that it will stick. But I think that they're
Speaker 1: going to go very lightly on that one because that's
Speaker 1: still kind of like muggy gray area of like was
Speaker 1: it or was it not? Based on the evidence in
Speaker 1: the testimonies that we heard. The RICO is where I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us knew the government was going
Speaker 1: to have a hard time proving their case. Now, remember
Speaker 1: a few days ago, a lot of us were confused.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were confused because the government decided
Speaker 1: to back up on off of a few theories, a
Speaker 1: lot of the attempted theories under this RICO, including the
Speaker 1: arson and other things attempted arson, right, the attempt, not
Speaker 1: the actual crime that was committed, but the attempt. They
Speaker 1: backed away from these theories and said, look, we want
Speaker 1: to focus on what we know that we're strong on.
Speaker 1: And the reason why they did that is because they
Speaker 1: wanted to avoid a situation like this. It did not
Speaker 1: work because again, once you have those conversations out in
Speaker 1: front of these people, the people cannot hear it. We
Speaker 1: are not in men and black. You can't just blink,
Speaker 1: and it don't work out. By the time we got
Speaker 1: into the overflow room and I could actually visually see him,
Speaker 1: it was very obviously that he was stuck, like he
Speaker 1: was stuck, very stuck just there, like literally just there.
Speaker 1: Didn't turn around to look at his kids, not one time.
Speaker 1: When we got in Baby Love's mom had actually got
Speaker 1: into she was sitting in the second row. She had said,
Speaker 1: while she was waiting, you could see like I could
Speaker 1: literally see her as I was talking to her as
Speaker 1: we were going through security. She's breathing heavy. She literally said, Yo,
Speaker 1: if I faint, catch me because I can't describe the feeling,
Speaker 1: but it was such an old wow, like we're finally
Speaker 1: at the point where we're going to know of this
Speaker 1: man's life is over, if the rest of his life
Speaker 1: will be spent behind bars, right, And then you see
Speaker 1: as we're so now I'm in the overflow room and
Speaker 1: we're seeing so eventually his daughters got back there, his
Speaker 1: sons got back there. You know, his mom is sitting
Speaker 1: right there as well too, So the family is all
Speaker 1: there at this point. So then they start going through
Speaker 1: the conversations. The judge is like, look, the George just
Speaker 1: gave us this letter. We got to figure out how
Speaker 1: we address it, right. So the government is like, look,
Speaker 1: I think we should do a modified all in charge
Speaker 1: and all in charge refers to during instructions that you
Speaker 1: give a jury when they're hung. I look this up
Speaker 1: because we were having so much conversation about it in
Speaker 1: the courtroom but y'all know me, I like to do
Speaker 1: my googles. I like to figure things out for myself.
Speaker 1: So I went on a Cornell Law School's website. I've
Speaker 1: been using them a lot throughout this case as they
Speaker 1: bring up different landmark case and just different things that
Speaker 1: they're using to make their own decisions, both on the
Speaker 1: defensive side and the government side. Right. So, according to
Speaker 1: Cornell Law School's webs like, this is the Legal Information
Speaker 1: Institute where they give you information on various laws and
Speaker 1: charges and things. The Allen charge are first to jury
Speaker 1: instructions that are given to a hung jury urging them
Speaker 1: to agree on a verdict. Now, these Allen charges can
Speaker 1: be controversial and a lot of states don't allow you
Speaker 1: to use them, but federal courts do allow you to
Speaker 1: use them. But the government is like, I think we
Speaker 1: should do a modified Alan charge, like where we don't
Speaker 1: do the full Alan charge shower, Like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not putting the full pressure on the people, but we
Speaker 1: should let them know, like, look, y'all got to make
Speaker 1: a decision, and y'all need to make one soon. Day's
Speaker 1: team is like, no, this jury has been remarkable already.
Speaker 1: They sat through all of the evidence, they sat through
Speaker 1: all of the deliberation. They've been going through these things
Speaker 1: for weeks and hours and days, and they were able
Speaker 1: to come up with a unanimous decision on four of
Speaker 1: the five counts. Why would we now pressure them. They
Speaker 1: are more than capable of figuring this out. They just
Speaker 1: need more time. And it was a great argument that
Speaker 1: was made by Diddie's team because right again, none of
Speaker 1: us Didy's team, no one knows what their decision is
Speaker 1: either way. We just know that they've come to a
Speaker 1: decision on some of the counts, right, But you want
Speaker 1: to give them as much time as possible, uninfluenced. You
Speaker 1: don't want them to feel the pressure of anything. And
Speaker 1: then this came back up again too, because when you're
Speaker 1: talking about pressure, fourth of July is on Friday, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. These are normal people with
Speaker 1: families that have been in court for eight weeks long.
Speaker 1: And I said in my last upload, people do not
Speaker 1: understand being in court is taxing. It wears you down.
Speaker 1: There are so much information, so much time, so much
Speaker 1: back and forth, so much detail. I cannot imagine being
Speaker 1: a drawer. I will want to pull my hair out
Speaker 1: right now, and you're trying to do the best buy
Speaker 1: this person whose life is on the line, and you
Speaker 1: know all of these things. It's a lot of pressure already.
Speaker 1: So if I'm a defense attorney, I want no more
Speaker 1: additional pressure if I can get it. The judge basically
Speaker 1: came to a middle point because he told the prosecutors,
Speaker 1: which is the government, and he also told Diddy's team like,
Speaker 1: look y'all, put together, what y'all think my instruction for
Speaker 1: them should be. Because Diddy's team was like, we should
Speaker 1: just leave them alone. We should just let them do
Speaker 1: their thing, and the judge is like, we can't just
Speaker 1: let them do their thing. We can't just leave them
Speaker 1: alone because they're literally saying, we had people who were
Speaker 1: equally unpersuadable on both sides. We need to regive an
Speaker 1: instruction because obviously it went over somebody's head, or we
Speaker 1: need to give an instruction because if this is how
Speaker 1: they feel and they're sticking to their guns, we just
Speaker 1: got to deal with that how it comes. But at
Speaker 1: least we gave them as much instruction defining instruction as
Speaker 1: we could so that they could make one decision altogether
Speaker 1: on this last count. Right, Diddy's team submits their email,
Speaker 1: the government submits their email, and the judge come back.
Speaker 1: He says to Diddy Team, He's like, you barely said anything,
Speaker 1: and Diddy Seam is like, well, that's because we don't
Speaker 1: really want much said. We want them to do their
Speaker 1: own thing. We want them to just get more time.
Speaker 1: The government is suggesting the al in charge and then
Speaker 1: they bring up a line from Avenatti's case where and
Speaker 1: when they said this, I was like, oh, they know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They want the pressure. They want this
Speaker 1: to be done over with. They want the pressure. If
Speaker 1: the pressure gonna make you fold, baby, the government is like,
Speaker 1: give it to me. So the government is like, well,
Speaker 1: we think that in addition to because there the government
Speaker 1: is like, we think that in addition to our email
Speaker 1: that we sent you, And a judge said, look, what
Speaker 1: you guys are saying is not too far off. Y'all
Speaker 1: are kind of basically both saying the same thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet y'all in the middle and put together
Speaker 1: a charge to read to them. So then the government
Speaker 1: is that okay. The government stands up in ejects objects
Speaker 1: and the government is like, look, we object to this
Speaker 1: because we think that there should be something more defining,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing defining here. Because Diddy's team is like, no,
Speaker 1: just tell them, like, look, you guys have been great,
Speaker 1: take some more time. We're trying to keep it as
Speaker 1: cute as possible over here because we don't want them
Speaker 1: to feel pressured. We don't want anything to be blamed
Speaker 1: on pressure. But we do have to define this a
Speaker 1: bit more. So. The government is saying, let use this
Speaker 1: line from Avanatti's case, which is a case that they
Speaker 1: brought up when they sent over their proposal of what
Speaker 1: and how they think the jury should be instructive. So
Speaker 1: the line was, there's no reason to believe that if
Speaker 1: this case were to be tried again, that another jury
Speaker 1: would be any more intelligent, more impartial, or more competent
Speaker 1: to decide than you are. They wanted to drive the
Speaker 1: point home that listen, if y'all can't come to a
Speaker 1: decision on this count, the case could be tried again.
Speaker 1: So why don't y'all take another look at the instructions,
Speaker 1: sit down, figure this out so that doesn't have to
Speaker 1: happen with another jury, right. Diddy seem is like, Nope, no,
Speaker 1: that's too much. That's pressure. That is too much. At
Speaker 1: this point, they reiterate if they've already reached their verdict
Speaker 1: on four accounts, they know what they're doing, they just
Speaker 1: need more time. Give them the more time. So then
Speaker 1: they have a conversation about what more time looks like
Speaker 1: because technically court was supposed to be closed on Thursday,
Speaker 1: which is the third, for the holiday of July fourth.
Speaker 1: The judge like, if we need the time, we can
Speaker 1: figure out the logistics so that we can be here
Speaker 1: on the third. Should we tell the jury that when
Speaker 1: I bring them in now or should we wait? Like
Speaker 1: what do you think we should do? So the government is,
Speaker 1: you know, they're saying their piece. Diddy's team is like, no,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't tell them now, because again that adds to
Speaker 1: the pressure because they're going to be kind of scrambling
Speaker 1: to figure it out because they don't want to be
Speaker 1: a kind of like a logistical burden. They don't want
Speaker 1: the court to have to open up on their behalf
Speaker 1: and do all these things. Let's not say anything to
Speaker 1: them about court not being open right now. And I
Speaker 1: get it the the you know, the court wants to
Speaker 1: be equally like fair and transparent to the jury. But
Speaker 1: I think in being equally fair and transparent to our client.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't say anything. Let them tell us what they
Speaker 1: want to do. So today, bring them back in. You
Speaker 1: can give them this additional instruction about you know, what
Speaker 1: the instructions are, and then you know, leaning in there
Speaker 1: on their own common sense and all the things that
Speaker 1: we've done already, right, and then allow them to figure
Speaker 1: out if they're going to keep deliberating today or will
Speaker 1: we come back tomorrow. And then at the end of
Speaker 1: the day tomorrow, let's see where they fall, and then
Speaker 1: you give them the decision of like, hey, okay, so
Speaker 1: we will probably have to come back on here on
Speaker 1: the third. What do y'all want to do, because at
Speaker 1: that point there's no added pressure, court said, Okay, the
Speaker 1: court agree that they would kind of already start figuring
Speaker 1: out logistics for the third just in case, and that
Speaker 1: they will wait until tomorrow to have the conversation with
Speaker 1: the jury. Y'all. The stress is on, baby, Okay, the
Speaker 1: pressure is on. I think that we will get a
Speaker 1: verdict tomorrow. But again, this rico, it's the rico that
Speaker 1: has them. I don't know, man, I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 1: Let me know, what do you guys, think, drop your
Speaker 1: predictions in the comments if you're listening, take it outside
Speaker 1: to the tweets in the streets to be outside. We outside,
Speaker 1: we outside. Okay, how do you think they ruled on
Speaker 1: the counts? The four counts that they've come to a
Speaker 1: decision on count two, three, four, and five? What do
Speaker 1: y'all think? I appreciate y'all for tuning in. This is
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Speaker 1: l Rosa. At the end of the day, there's always
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