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Speaker 2: be me John Middlecoff speaking to you live from Nashville.

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Speaker 2: After watching the forty nine Ers, I would say dominate Seattle,

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Speaker 2: but the game got pretty interesting there in the second half.

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Speaker 2: The final score reflects, I think what we witness the

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Speaker 2: as does Seattle. Gino Smith continues a poor play. We'll

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Speaker 2: dive into it all. Obviously, it's also Fugazi Friday, and

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Speaker 2: I talked a little bit about it with him. But

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Speaker 2: Robert Sala gonna just go on vacation. I think Mike

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, you know, let's just start with

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Speaker 2: Like that ain't gonna work, that it would be a

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Speaker 2: They got rid of Russell Wilson, which was incredible for

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Speaker 1: DK probably ran a bad route.

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Speaker 2: But just to the theme of this game and this

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Speaker 2: Gino and now with Mike McDonald is completely one sided.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the forty nine Ers fucking owned these guys now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they needed this game, but this used to be

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Speaker 1: It is a hard place to play. It gets really loud.

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Speaker 2: You could tell it was getting allowed in the second half,

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Speaker 1: On Seattle.

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Speaker 2: He's made you a respectable team where half the league

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the draft because I think Seattle,

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Speaker 2: He kind of is what he is, which is pretty

436
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: damn good. Like he's the high, high level bridge starter

437
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: the end of the day, when you're that, it does

438
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: limit your ceiling. And when they played the best team

439
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: in their division, the team that if they could beat

440
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 2: they could win the division, a team that they have

441
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: to see probably in the playoffs if they're a wildcard,

442
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, if they're the six or seven seed. I mean,

443
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: that's what happened a couple years ago. They played the

444
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and got beat. But you gotta beat

445
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: that team, and you're just not.

446
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: Doing it with Gino.

447
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: So listen, I'm not act like this is the greatest

448
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: quarterback draft, but we know John Schneider likes traits. That's

449
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: why he loved Russell Wilson back in the day. That's

450
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: why he loved Josh Allen. Honestly, Gino has a lot

451
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: of good traits. I'm talking physical trades, arm strength, mobility.

452
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: It's why he liked Drew Locke, who just not that

453
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: great of a player but falls under that category. And

454
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: I just there a's some guys in this draft that

455
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: you you know, if John Schneider falls for roll the

456
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: dice because you got a good young coach that everyone's

457
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: high on. You've got an offensive coordinator that can scheme

458
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: up plays. I mean Ryan Grubb, he's been better than

459
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: I thought. We knew how good he was for Dubor

460
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: at Washington with Pennix and all those guys in the

461
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Doonsay and Polk, but to never have coached in the

462
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: NFL and come up and immediately just like you just

463
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: watched them play. They're really good on offense. They're creative.

464
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: It's just it's been a seamless transition, like the guy,

465
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: and honestly, you might only have him for a couple

466
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: of years.

467
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Speaker 1: So roll the dice.

468
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: Now, try to get a quarterback and give yourself a chance,

469
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: because you're just not beating party in kysh aia, like

470
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: you're not even getting close. And I respect that operation

471
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: a lot, and I hope they do to make it

472
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: a little more competitive because this geno thing has just

473
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: hit its ceiling when they play the top team. So

474
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: big win for the Niners. I still think Seattle gets

475
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: some guys healthy that they'll be right there in the

476
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: mix for a wild card spot, and depending on how

477
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: the NFC plays out, it wouldn't shock me if they

478
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: won nine games, were like the sixth seed.

479
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: So the second best.

480
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: Team to me if just remotely healthy in the NFC West,

481
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: given how many injuries the Rams like are gonna have

482
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: for a while, right, Like, those guys aren't coming back soon.

483
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: You know they're missing who knows, you know, Pookah, a

484
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup like this. This could be mi for a

485
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: while and you're just not gonna win games like that.

486
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing is.

487
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: You get so far deep into a hole all of

488
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're two and eight, even if you're in

489
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: every game, but if you're losing them all like, you

490
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: can't come back from that. And then they gives you

491
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: you allow no margin for air. That's another problem for Seattle. Right,

492
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 2: you go, well, what if the Rams do have a

493
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: season from hell in they draft a quarterback, So it's like, well,

494
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: Purty ain't going anywhere. Kyler is a kind of a

495
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: bizarre player, but he's clearly not going anywhere either, and

496
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: he's a mother to play right on an individual game basis.

497
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: And then with the Rams end up with like the

498
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: sixth pick, trade up to like number two and draft

499
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: one of the topic drafts like Shador Sanders, that's who

500
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: Sean McVay likes. So NFC West, that's just that's that's

501
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: a good Thursday night games. That was a fun Thursday

502
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: night game. Places were rocking, and H forty nine Ers

503
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: pulled out, obviously fugazi.

504
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Speaker 1: Friday.

505
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Speaker 2: I talked a little bit about this with Stucky and

506
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about this because the viral

507
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: video of Rogers on McAfee. Right, we all know the

508
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: timeline of well, let's let's let's just start with this

509
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: as a player like part of the fugazi of getting

510
00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: a coach.

511
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Speaker 1: Five.

512
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: If you're a player, Lebron has been doing it for years,

513
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't expect you to come out even if the

514
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: guy like Lebron has gotten coaches fired. That's stunk Aaron Rodgers.

515
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: If he doesn't think solid is any good, I don't

516
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: even really disagree with him.

517
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Like Robert Sala easily could have lost his job over

518
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: the offseason.

519
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: So it's been happening for a long time in sports

520
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 2: with star players getting coaches fired. And I would say

521
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: we'd have to like really break it down. Over the

522
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: last thirty or forty years, a high percentage of them

523
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: are correct. But then it's one thing to be like, listen,

524
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: it's not my job. I don't want to talk about it.

525
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: These guys constantly discuss like what are you guys talking

526
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: about getting this guy? But no, I had me getting

527
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: this guy fired. It's like they go overkill. And with

528
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: Rogers what makes it pretty bizarre. The more and more

529
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: I thought about my bald brother losing his job is

530
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 2: that he was like, they lose some morning, so when

531
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: they come back by Monday, right, I understand they're playing

532
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: on Monday night, so really tuesdays like a Monday. But

533
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: usually if you were going to fire someone, you would

534
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: do it Monday. And I'm pretty sure I read Woody

535
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: Johnson's never even fired a guy in season. But we've

536
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: all heard by now obviously all his buddies over there

537
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: watching embarrassing Sam Darnold beating him a lot of variables.

538
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: So I you want to fire him, I have no

539
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: issue with firing them, But if you were going to

540
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: fire him as the owner or decide that as a

541
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: front office slash ownership, you would have done it on

542
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: Monday morning. But then for them to have a phone

543
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: call and Rogers just say that.

544
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just like asked me about my foot. He

545
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: was just checking in seeing like Aaron, what'd you do today?

546
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: What are you watched on TV? It's like how you'd

547
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: call your brother or dad like, hey, what's up? You know?

548
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Where you just call it nothing to talk about, nothing

549
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 2: to talk about. You usually don't do that in a

550
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: professional environment. I would say, right, if you're gonna call

551
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: someone you work with, whether it be a colleague an

552
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: employee of boss, I shoot the shit for a minute, Hey,

553
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: what's going on you?

554
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Right?

555
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: You just have basic small talk. But then eventually you like, well, X,

556
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Y and Z whatever you're calling for. You cannot convince me.

557
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: And I don't blame if Aaron's asked him saying yeah,

558
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: this case, he stinks this guy's not any good, right,

559
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: But then for you to come out and consistently push

560
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: that that didn't happen, like, no one can believe you.

561
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: It's not believable because eventually, like when everyone just takes

562
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: a step back and listens to it, we're all human beings.

563
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: It's why I think, like the political stuff like Jump

564
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: the Sharks so long ago, like you do realize how

565
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: normal people talk and like how normal.

566
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: People live in this world. You know, it's like.

567
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: You can push one narrative, but it's like we're living,

568
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: like we're alive every day, we do things and this

569
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: is how the world goes around. So you can't tell

570
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: me it's X when I live and it's why. So

571
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: it's like, Aaron, we have all been in situations where

572
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: someone called us a boss an owner.

573
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: It would no one can believe in your situation. You're

574
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: viewed as the savior that that didn't come up.

575
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't expect him to say, Listen, I

576
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: didn't think Solo was any good.

577
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I gave wood.

578
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: He he asked me, what if he fired him? Would

579
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: I care?

580
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I said no.

581
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: Now I do think if he said that, I think

582
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: we've never been in a world where authenticity rings truer

583
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: and it resonates with more people. I actually think a

584
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: lot of people would have respected it. Now I get it,

585
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: like getting a guy fired as a player who feel

586
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: a little weird, but I actually think he would be

587
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: shocked by the reaction of people, aka the fans, be like,

588
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: I respect it. Be like, listen, I've been around Mike McCarthy,

589
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: I've been around the floor. I think this guy's fucking terrible.

590
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows what he's doing. He's not

591
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: calling the offense, not calling the defense. He gets up

592
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: in the press conference makes a mockery of what we're

593
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: doing because he can never get his words straight. He's

594
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: always saying one thing and we're doing another, and then

595
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: he has to come back. No one, there's no accountability

596
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: anywhere what every single player says.

597
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I think he stinks. Like if he just honestly said that,

598
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: there would be.

599
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: No pushback, I'd be like, God, yeah, no shit, we've

600
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: all been seeing it. But I also think this like

601
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: the NFL doesn't run like the NBA. In my comp

602
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: to this situation because he's done in a million times

603
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: is Lebron, But in the NBA, and listen, Lebron at

604
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: forty years old is way better than Aaron Rodgers at forty,

605
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 2: but dramatically better. So the guy that they are leaning

606
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: on just isn't good enough. And clearly, in the history

607
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: of the NFL, star players have been spoken to by

608
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: their owner about some ideas, So it's not abnormal where

609
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: this thing gets a little weird. It's like he doesn't

610
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: really have that much equity there, he's only played whatever

611
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: five games. He does not look that good players now, No,

612
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Like God, the owner are just calling him and asking him,

613
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: could he call about me? What if I'm a player

614
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: not doing that well? Like could they call about me?

615
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: The Jets are a disaster, There's no way around it.

616
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Now they're a must watch disaster and they're on television

617
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: all the time.

618
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Disaster. I mean they're playing the Bills this.

619
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Week, which the storylines, so it's all gonna draw us there,

620
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: and old brick former player, feels cool, feels a little

621
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: Dan campbellish back in the day at Miami. But I

622
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: just I really think this is gonna get worse. And

623
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: I told Stucky this today. If you truly doubt the Jets,

624
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: which I do, I've doubted it from the beginning, like

625
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: if you were never anyone on the fence, like thought

626
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: that I never thought they were a playoff team. Now,

627
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: the one game against the Patriots, like Damn Rogers looks

628
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: pretty good, but then clearly he's just the majority of

629
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: his games he's looked old frail and now he's banged up.

630
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: If you're just out on them and you go, well,

631
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: they're playing the Bills, who clearly have been a little

632
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: up and down this season, but you go, they got

633
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, they got a winning culture, and they know

634
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: how to win, and they know how to win this division.

635
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: The Jets lose that game, and the just lose it

636
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: by double digits, and it just gets back to the

637
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: what that moment stood for, Like what happened this week.

638
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: It resembles shitty ownership, shitty dysfunction or shitty culture dysfunction

639
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: interwoven into everything these guys do. You can't shake that.

640
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Maybe you could band aid it for a week. But

641
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Jeff Olbrick, part of what he brought to the table

642
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: is like he was a really good you have the

643
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: coordinator like he handled that. Now he's got more responsibility.

644
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: So does that diminish it all? Todd downing the Hackett thing,

645
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: that thing could get weird. We listen, if Aaron Rodgers

646
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: didn't have the juice, Hackett would have been fired him

647
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: and Robert Sala would have both cleared out their offices.

648
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: But he gets demoted because the star ain't gonna throw

649
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: his buddy to the wolves. Like what did these players think? Again?

650
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: They live in the world, right, They go into that

651
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: building every day like they see it right there, are

652
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: living it much closer than Wheel. So they're going, well,

653
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: what even if they thought SLA was average, there's no

654
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: way they think, like, you know, Hackets getting a raw

655
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: deal here, actually better than you realize. Not saying he's

656
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh, but he's definitely better than what everyone the

657
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: way they're talking about him. So the the lies and

658
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: the statement from Aaron, it's just it wasn't It was

659
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: just an all timer there, It really was. It's just

660
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: one of those that you'll never forget. It's it's really

661
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: one of his classic.

662
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: Moments that yeah, shitty, Just what are you watching Dancing

663
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: with the Stars? Monday night?

664
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: Football?

665
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: What's what's on tv? Aaron? What do you eat for dinner?

666
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Give me a break.

667
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: I just wonder if some of these guys on the

668
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: team are gonna start thinking like is he bad mouthing

669
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: me to the owner? I just kind of hit my

670
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: mind when I was talking right there. I wonder if

671
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: if they were to lose and they look shitty on

672
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: it could get really weird really fast. I mean obviously

673
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: it already is, but I just mean, like with the

674
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Rogers team dynamic, Like I mean, how those guys are

675
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: twenty five years old, aren't they young? The majority of

676
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: the guys on the team. Imagine that. Imagine what that

677
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: building was like Tuesday and Wednesday. Okay, back at it

678
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: again from Nashville, Tennessee, where all lines are presented by

679
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: DraftKings and the talk of the town stuck.

680
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: He has been the kids.

681
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: They grabbed the goalpost and hiked from Vanderbilt, walked it

682
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: down Broadway. I'm looking at the river right now and

683
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: tossed that bad boy in. But the reason that it

684
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: keeps coming up is because you said you love Vandy

685
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: and the points and you sold me. But then you know,

686
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: I was it was my birthday last weekend, having a

687
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: few pops with some buddies, and it was it went

688
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: from like, God, are they going to cover do?

689
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Holy shit, they're gonna win this game.

690
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: That was yeah, I I I think I sweeted out,

691
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: like in the third quarter, Evan's gonna win this game.

692
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: I just felt that way they if you go, I

693
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: think Jerry kill gave de boor his I think it's

694
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: the first professional job I could be mistaken on that

695
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: they had a connection back in southern Illinois. I believe

696
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: way back in the day and there was like some

697
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: quiet confidence in that Vanderbilt room that they were gonna

698
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: be able to attack this Alabama defense which has some

699
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 4: holes and there's some youth, and they had two weeks

700
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: to prepare and kill and beck and scheme up and

701
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: offense as well as anybody. And yeah, it was. It

702
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: was an amazing game. I think the best part of

703
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: that is when you have an underdog that big and.

704
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Right, you would the game finish at what was the

705
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: point spread? Five?

706
00:34:53,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: I think it closed twenty three, twenty three and a half,

707
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: I believe. So when you have an under all that

708
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: big and like advanced spot for Obama, bandy comes out

709
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: great game plan, goes up seven nothing, gets a pick, six,

710
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: up two touchdowns. You know, they wanted to slow the

711
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: game down. They held the ball for forty two minutes,

712
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: but then Bama starts to come back. But the fact

713
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: that they were able to run the clock out to

714
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: get a couple first downs late was super impressive because

715
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: you knew if you punt there you see it all

716
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 4: the time, if Bama gets the ball back, they're they're

717
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: gonna go score and win the game. That was the

718
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: most impressive part for me. Vanderbilt still celebrating, probably on

719
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: Broadway along with you. So we'll see how they respond

720
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: this week at Kentucky. I actually like their the under

721
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: in that game. Vanderbilt wants to play super slow, limit

722
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 4: possessions in Kentucky's defenses died what to five in the country.

723
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: I mean, they held whole Mess and Georgia to below

724
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: seventeen points each. So I played some Vanderbilt team total under.

725
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: You can't you can't run on Kentucky. Their front seven

726
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: is as good as it gets in college football. They

727
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: also take away the exposive play. Vanderbilt could be a

728
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 4: little flat. Both teams play super slow, so it should

729
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: be a really low possession, low scoring game. So we'll

730
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: see how Vanderbilt response. I normally would bet Kentucky in

731
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: this spot. I'm just not in love with laying close

732
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 4: to two touchdowns with Kentucky. They're they're you know, that's

733
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 4: super slow team, their offenses limited. Vanderbrook wants to squeeze

734
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: the life out of the game. So they they profile

735
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: is a good big dog like they beat Alba out right,

736
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: they beat Botsach out right, they should have beat Missouri.

737
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: So I just preferred the under there. But amazing game

738
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: the scenes with the goalposts are awesome.

739
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: One line.

740
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: I was just scrolling through all the college football lines.

741
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: What about you know, it's hard to this transfer portal

742
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 2: of the teams. It's hard to feel great about any buddy.

743
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: But Bama huge this week. Like Saban in that spot

744
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: right if he wouldn't have lost that game, but if

745
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: he had, they would have won the next game like

746
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: sixty to three. It's hard to trust, you know. It's like,

747
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: are they a little flawed? They're playing Southern Alabama.

748
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: I think as I saw that was like minus twenty one,

749
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know the college football to me.

750
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing when you have an NFL

751
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: like spread Oregon Ohio State. You know, granted Oregon's the

752
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: dog at home, but still like that feels we could

753
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: debate what that number should be, but it's not crazy

754
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: some of these.

755
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Big spreads in college football.

756
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: And I tried to hammer him early on with the

757
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: Oklahomas and the Tennessees, and I kind of got Alabama.

758
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: I forget who they were playing. I did like this

759
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: parlay one week and none of them even came close.

760
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: So it's like it's hard to have faith, you know

761
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: they can get up Bama, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State for

762
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: each other some of these other games. I mean it's shit,

763
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, do you have faith in

764
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: Alabama this weekend?

765
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

766
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: Now they play South Carolina South count Is. Their offense

767
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: is super limited actually actually with lean South count as way,

768
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a good spot for Obama, you know,

769
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: to bounce back. But look, it was a disappointing loss.

770
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes when you have a disappointing loss, you also do

771
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: come out flat the next week. Alabama goes disappointing.

772
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was devastating.

773
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean Georgia had a like devastating loss,

774
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 4: you know to Alabama after they came all the way back.

775
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: They didn't come close to covering last week. Sometimes you

776
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 4: just come you're still like a little emotionally flat.

777
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeh.

778
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 4: Even if the coach can try to get up and

779
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: they have Tennessee, they go to Tennessee next week, so

780
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: it's it's sort of a tricky spot. South Counts defense

781
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: is legit, Like their defensive line is as good as Kentucky's.

782
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: They can't really throw the ball, though, which is how

783
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 4: you attack this Alabama secondary that game's going to come

784
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: down actually at the number like twenty one and a

785
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: half our of lean South Carolina. It's gonna come down

786
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: to ConL North Carolina stay in it early. They can't.

787
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: They can't play from behind. We saw that against Old

788
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: mess last week because they just don't have a passing attack.

789
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: So once you force them to kind of go in

790
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: too come from behind mode, its lights out and then

791
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: it could be an Alabama blowout. Not a game I

792
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: really love though, But I do think you know what

793
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: you mentioned, I think it was pretty smart in that there.

794
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: I think that the difference between the top the elite

795
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: teams in years past to this year is growing as

796
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: far as the elite teams are not as good, and

797
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: that's because of the transfer portal. That's because of NIL

798
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: that you kind of thin out, you kind of disperse

799
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: some of the top end talent throughout. I think eventually

800
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: what you'll see is, and I think we've talked about

801
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: this for them, but that you'll have like an NFL

802
00:39:54,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: like you know, top twenty, top twenty five, that and

803
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: then that gap between those teams and then the bottom

804
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five is huge. But I don't think that

805
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: the bream of the crop is going to be as

806
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: a leak as we've seen in years past, and I

807
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: actually think that's that's a good thing.

808
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Before we get into the NFL, I'm going Saturday Oklahoma

809
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Texas nice and I've been a sneaky guy that started

810
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: me in football in president stage has worked at Oklahoma's

811
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: and Stoops and then Lincoln and now Vinable, so I

812
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: follow their program pretty closely.

813
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: You know.

814
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: Obviously it was a lot of hype between the quarterback.

815
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: He pulled the trigger pretty quick going to the other

816
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: guy on Jackson Arnold. And we all know how like

817
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: Jackson Norman's just on some other team next year, right,

818
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: He's just a transfer portal Boise State, Kentucky. Who knows.

819
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be shitted. It's impossible to even guess.

820
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: But this other guy is can't really throw either. Now

821
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: you've been hammering this whole time. They've had a million

822
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: injuries on the offense. Their defense is good. I mean

823
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: they I was pretty locked into that Auburn game. It's

824
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: like they're gonna they're kind of getting their ass kicked

825
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 2: in this game. And defense just had that pick six

826
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: and it flipped and listen, Auburn sucks. That's not an

827
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: easy place to play right on the road. And even

828
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Venable said like this is the SEC, like this shit's hard,

829
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: and he's right. Saban's been saying this forever, like just

830
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: because you don't have a great record, like go into Kentucky,

831
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: play them, see O goes.

832
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's just harder.

833
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 2: It's so I've always defended the SEC because like their

834
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: middle tier to me, is still better than like playing Wisconsin. Right,

835
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: if we're really nitpicking and you know, both six win

836
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: teams or whatever, you can plug and play any team.

837
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: But the Oklahoma situation, I have a did did they

838
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: announce yours?

839
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: Is he going to start this game?

840
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 4: I believe that yeah.

841
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: So you's going to start, which I don't know if

842
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: it is a good thing or bad thing. I think

843
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: you would rather see arch against if you are, you know,

844
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: a defensive lead team, take your chance as a guy

845
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: that hasn't played much. But obviously Texas is stupid loaded.

846
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it'd be an upset for me

847
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: if they don't win the national championship, given that they

848
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: throw the ball better than Ohio State. And we'll see,

849
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: it's obviously a big test for Oho State this weekend

850
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: in terms of like can that guy make the biggest

851
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: throws against good teams? Like talking to my NFL buddies, now,

852
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: granted their wide receiver, that kid is like him and

853
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Williams on Alabama look like the throws right now.

854
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, But my take.

855
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: Is I think I'm gonna sprinkle a little on Oklahoma

856
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: plus fourteen. It's risky because when Texas on we've seen them,

857
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: they're like a freight train. Oregon Ohio State, I got,

858
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: I got no clue. It's hard for me to have

859
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: faith in Oregon. But you're like getting them as a

860
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: dog at home in the biggest home game they've played

861
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: in a long time. It feels like if you're ever

862
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: going to get their best shot, it's gonna be then.

863
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: So I would expect them to look pretty good.

864
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, starting with Texas Oklahoma. It's look, I expect the

865
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: oaklawm the defense to come to play here and they

866
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: they they were they kind of got work. I mean,

867
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: they ended up winning the game for them at all

868
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: of them, but they were getting worked that game, and

869
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 4: I think that they were just exhausted. Uh they were,

870
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: they were, they were tired. I mean, go back to

871
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: the Tennessee game. They they were getting no help from

872
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: the offense. They forced two turnovers. Arnold turns it over

873
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: on the very next play, both times on on bumbles

874
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: and life No. I mean, well, yeah, when I bet

875
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 4: Will Levis, which I did again this weekend, that's that's it.

876
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: The only time, the only time I ever see that

877
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: is when I bet Will Levis. So yeah, I mean

878
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: I think that they were exhausted. They were gassed the

879
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: whole season. Their offense has given them nothing on the

880
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: field the whole time. So I think the buy will

881
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: serve them. Well, uh and it is a talented defense,

882
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: so I think that they'll come to play here. The

883
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: the offense, they just they just had so many I mean,

884
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: how much can they fix the offensive line? It's they

885
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: still can't run the ball. And I think that's ultimately

886
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: how you have to attack this Texas team is you know,

887
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: on the ground, but you have to have some threat

888
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: of a passing attack. Michigan, so they were just able

889
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: to load the box. I mean, you can't remember this

890
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: Texas team lost and Murphy starting in the NFL right

891
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: now up from their defensive line is so I'm and

892
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: Oklahoma has no semblance of a rushing attack. Their receivers

893
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: are still all out. Burke's just got announced out for

894
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: this weekend. Hawkins limited as a passer. I think it

895
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: was the right move to go to him because of

896
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: your offensive line issues, because your running game isn't going strong,

897
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: because your receiver interes to get a guy back there

898
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: that's mobile, that can run. I mean, you saw you

899
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: have that long touchdown run against Auburn, and he was

900
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: able to hit one long pass in that game. I

901
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: just don't know if Oklahoma has the personnel to attack

902
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: this Texas defense. They've been good on the back end.

903
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 4: The Text offensive line is also great, and the thing

904
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: you get with yours is you have a ton of

905
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: big game experience, which is where he has the upper

906
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: hand over over Arch. So I think that the Text

907
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: offensive line should be able to handle the Oklahoma front.

908
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: But rivalry game Oklahoma defense, this is really good. Texas

909
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: still to me, hasn't fully been tested. I mean, they're

910
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: a juggernaut, but maybe they're not as good as we

911
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: think that. That's the thing with this right now, you know,

912
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: and even in week five or six, yes, they went

913
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: into Michigan and dominated miss I think Michigan is terrible,

914
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I.

915
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Think you're right. I think you're I think you're right.

916
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 4: I bet against them every week. They just they went

917
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: up to Washington. They were and the version with Yeah,

918
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: I remember the Virgin with the version with Alex Orgy

919
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: and whatever they were doing before. Maybe the Jack Tuttle

920
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: will be a little better. But there's no receivers, there's

921
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: no the offensive line is bet this that this is

922
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: a team that should have lost the Minnesota at home.

923
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 4: If they don't blow that onside kick call, they lose.

924
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: They give up a ton of yards to Washington. I

925
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: don't think the defense this is is good. So yes,

926
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: I was impressed with Texas, and Texas is one of

927
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: the three best teams in the country, but maybe they're

928
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: not as good. I don't know if Oklahoma is the

929
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: team that can really tell us much more. But I

930
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: don't hate just sprinkling on weird things happen in this game.

931
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: For what it's worth, Texas is this is the biggest

932
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: This is the most points Texas will be laying since

933
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: two thousand and five when they won the national title.

934
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: So Texas fans hope that is a good omen.

935
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: You agree that this game and the Iron Bowl feel

936
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: the weirdest like can be. Michigan, Ohio State, their games

937
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: are sometimes good, but it's not like a weird game,

938
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: like this game is weird, and Auburn Alabama it gets weird.

939
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Yes, but you know there are some rivalries that are

940
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: just this thing's gonna get weird.

941
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: And then there are just something that like there's a

942
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: good game, like Duke North Carolina basketball, but it's like

943
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: obviously they have been crazy shit that's happened in that rivalry.

944
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: But my example of Ohio State and Michigan, if they're

945
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 2: both good, you just know you're like, this is gonna

946
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: feel like an NFL game, or like Georgia Alabama, like

947
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: they feel like big games.

948
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: But Auburn Alabama and Texas Oklahoma.

949
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: Is just like drunk consistently, regardless of records, regardless of anything,

950
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: it never matters.

951
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I remember we look.

952
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: At Alabama Auburn last year. I mean that's one of

953
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: the weirdest moments ever.

954
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean shit, and they made they wouldn't even have

955
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. Yeah, and they beat Georgia the next week.

956
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: In about both games just always, as you said, are drunk.

957
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: I had a note to myself, I said, never bet

958
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: the under in the Red River shootout again. I did

959
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: last year, and I wrote a note to myself because

960
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: I actually would look at maybe think about this under here.

961
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: I mean the scores the last.

962
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: Two years ago, didn't stark didn't they blow them out?

963
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: Like fifty to nothing or something.

964
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 4: I think I forget who Oklahoma had a head quarterback.

965
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: There was a it was a disaster with Oklahoma going on.

966
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: But last you know, besides that game, you know, thirty four,

967
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: thirty fifty five, forty eight, fifty three, forty five, and

968
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 4: four overtimes thirty four to twenty seven, forty eight, forty five,

969
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: forty five, forty and these games there's just big plays galore.

970
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: Crazy stuff happens.

971
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: So it was one it wasn't it wasn't it like

972
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: the second game Caleb started.

973
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: It was like his welcome moment. Remember he had a

974
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: huge game.

975
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That was another crazy game. So yeah,

976
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: if you want to sprinkle, go for it to Oregon,

977
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: Ohio State. It's a you know, I wish I had

978
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 4: more conviction on it, but we don't.

979
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: I have no feel Yeah, I mean.

980
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: If I'm kind of just tempted to go. You know,

981
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 4: just a does a small bet take Oregon at three

982
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: and a half if you give me the hook there.

983
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: I mean before the season, at some places, Oregon was

984
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 4: like a small favor. It was flipping around Ohio State.

985
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: They'd been impressive. But then I mean they've played nobody.

986
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: I mean, both of these teams played Michigan State, blew

987
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: them out, similar scores. Michigan State. I mean, Ohio State

988
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: blew out Iowa last week at home man so, but

989
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: they haven't really played anybody. Oregon at least played Boise State,

990
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: but you could say that they should have lost. Now

991
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: Ashton gent he's an alien. So but you know, Ohio

992
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: State has one of the best backfields in the country,

993
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: one of the best wide receiver dues in the country.

994
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: But we still haven't learned a lot about either team.

995
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: You go back to Ole Miss, and this is just

996
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: gonna be the way of the world. In the new

997
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: college football landscape. You have all these teams that are

998
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: hit the portal hard, such turnover on all these rosters.

999
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: Ole Miss was dominating teams, blowing them out of the water.

1000
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: But they were just you know, different class level, so

1001
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: they were just talent wise athletically so much better than

1002
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: who they were playing. Get your first test against Kentucky

1003
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: and you lose. Tennessee same thing, blowing out these teams.

1004
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 4: Oklahoma had a ton of injuries. You go to Arkansas's

1005
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: two touchdown favorites lose. So we'll see just how good

1006
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: this Ohio State teams. I do believe in their defense.

1007
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: We'll see if Will Howard and their skill position players

1008
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: are as talent as anybody. Still some questions along the

1009
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: offensive line. Looks like they picked some of that. They

1010
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: settled on the right guard last week against Iowa. But again,

1011
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: this will be a different test, So I'm tempted just

1012
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: to take a three nap. I trust Landing more than Day.

1013
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: I mean, Day has been awful in these games against

1014
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: top five opponents. He gets. I trust Landing to make

1015
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 4: the better decision as far as like on fourth downs

1016
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: when to go for it. Day tends to like turtle

1017
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 4: up in these in these spots, if like it's fourth

1018
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: and one at the fifty early, Landing will go for

1019
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 4: it and roll the dice. I think at the right times.

1020
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: I think Oregan is the better special teams huge home

1021
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: field advantage, like on the margins all of these factors,

1022
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: I think favor Oregon. So like, if you give me

1023
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: more than three, I think I would lean that way.

1024
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't have strong, strong conviction here.

1025
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: We'll learn a lot about both teams. We'll see what

1026
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: you got. The other thing I have to remember is,

1027
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: and I think you see this a lot in the

1028
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 4: Big Ten, more so than the SEC and other conferences,

1029
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: is a lot of times these teams, their entire season

1030
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 4: comes down to like two games.

1031
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Right.

1032
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: We saw this with Michigan last year. Michigan season to

1033
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: get to the College foot playoff was basically two games.

1034
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: They didn't show anything, Harbol didn't show anything in all

1035
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: these other games. Right, you just hold close to the US.

1036
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play anything on tape, rely on the defense,

1037
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 4: run the ball, and then you kind of unleash some

1038
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: things in your two games that area. Well, Hi, a

1039
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: State season is you know, I mean they're gonna be

1040
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: like twenty point favorites against Michigan. So it's gonna come

1041
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: down that they go two Penn State and they have

1042
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: Oregon this week. So what have they been holding back?

1043
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: What is chip kel have been holding back? With Will

1044
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: Howard and his legs, certain packages, and the same thing

1045
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: to be said for Oregon. Have they been holding stuff back?

1046
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: So that's that's an interesting story on here. But I

1047
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 4: might bet Oregon small at three and a half. But

1048
00:51:50,600 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: no strong feels.

1049
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Diving in the National Football League.

1050
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, all lines presented by DraftKings. Let's start

1051
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: with a game when the season started. I don't know

1052
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: if a bunch of people would have circled, but the

1053
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Kamis are flying high right now. Jaden Daniels, I mean,

1054
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: he went from being like he was five to one.

1055
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: I think Caleb was like plus one fifty to be

1056
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: the rookie of the year. We got a lot of

1057
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: season left to go, but it's like those odds feel

1058
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: like you're stealing if you hammered Jaden to start the season.

1059
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: My thing with Washington is obviously, you know, beat the

1060
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: shit out of Cleveland. Who's a joke? I mean, just

1061
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: they're an embarrassment. Don't blame defenders are just kind of

1062
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: tapping out. I mean, what are you supposed to do

1063
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: with that offense? He just runs around, just runs into sacks.

1064
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine being his teammate. But you know,

1065
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: the game against Cincinnati was impressive, but their defense, you know,

1066
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's defense obviously is not very good. So is Washington

1067
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 2: real If you look at their schedule, they don't really

1068
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: need to win this game. I think next week they

1069
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: played Carolina, then they got the Giant, like they could

1070
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: you could look up and Washington could be like six

1071
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: and three and the Eagles and the Cowboys just have

1072
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: to kind of hold serve. But they might also not

1073
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: be that good right when they play real teams. And

1074
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: last year and you were hammering this on the Ravens

1075
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: when they would get in these spots against like kind

1076
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: of fringe, they.

1077
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: Would fucking destroy them.

1078
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: Let alone Detroit and San Francisco and teams they blew out.

1079
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: But is this team you know, defensively, clearly they're not

1080
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: the same. Yep, you know the run defense, I think

1081
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: I read to still really really like high end historically dominantly.

1082
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, as Joe Burrell says, you can you can

1083
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: throw on them.

1084
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: And I watched Harbots press conference and he's like, really,

1085
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: I felt we had good coverage on the overwhelming majority.

1086
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: They made some great plays. There were like four or

1087
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: five kind of lapses, and like obviously he's he tends

1088
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: to be as it fair to say a little more

1089
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: optimistic the way he talks and he's not like a

1090
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: negative Nancy when he's like talking about performances, and he

1091
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: should be. I mean, they won, they were down ten points,

1092
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I mean, I I think if

1093
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: you're kind of a believer in Washington, this is a

1094
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: pretty big number.

1095
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: It's not a big travel.

1096
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: But I also get nervous with the Ravens in this

1097
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: spot and like you could look up, it's like twenty

1098
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: four to three and a half.

1099
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lean Washington here.

1100
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: Same I it's not the best spot for Baltimore. They

1101
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 4: could they you know, they beat the shit out of

1102
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 4: the Bills in a huge game, and then you know

1103
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: they come back from they were down double digits three

1104
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: times in the second half against since he went in overtime.

1105
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: You know, so now you're you're coming off of a

1106
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 4: road overtime win. Historically, teams haven't performed great against the

1107
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: spread in that spot. Coming back home after two huge

1108
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: games right against since he which is just massive for

1109
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: the division, come back emotionally and physically draining game, that

1110
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: buffalo hyped game.

1111
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: So is that the is that the coolest Lamar game.

1112
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily mean like statistically, I just mean like

1113
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: visually to watch of his career like it was at

1114
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: the co Raven game in a long time. Yeah, I

1115
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: mean obviously they've had big wins, but in dominating wins.

1116
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: But that just game from an entertainment standpoint, felt like

1117
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: they're kind of Mahomes Tyreek Hill, Andy Reid Chiefs kind

1118
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: of version of some crazy game.

1119
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. That the stiff arm throw that was one of

1120
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 4: his career highlights, for sure. I you know, there will

1121
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: we'll learn a lot more about Jane Daniels. I mean

1122
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: I was wrong on him. I didn't think he would

1123
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: be I mean, I don't think anyone knew he would

1124
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: be this good this quick. But you do have to

1125
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: say that they've played some horrible defenses. And I do

1126
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 4: think that the Browns just ended up quitting last week.

1127
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't tackling. They also had a bunch

1128
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: of injuries during the game.

1129
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals tapped out too in that game.

1130
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cardinals defense is off. All the Bengals defense is bad,

1131
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 4: and they had a ton of injuries. They just along

1132
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: the defensive line. They're down the third and fourth stringers.

1133
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 4: You know, the Giants defense isn't any good, so they've

1134
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: had a very and the Bucks defense hasn't been good either,

1135
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: so they've had a very, very easy schedule. Now you

1136
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 4: can't deny the numbers and the efficiency, but we'll learn

1137
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: a lot about Daniels and his ability. This is the

1138
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: thing I'm looking forward to the most is seeing Daniel's

1139
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 4: ability to throw when the run game isn't working. Because

1140
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 4: the Ravens defense is elite against the run and they

1141
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 4: have they're rolling out a lot of dime packages under

1142
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: Zach Orr, which is one of the adjustments that I've

1143
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: liked that he's made a couple of games into the season,

1144
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: and what that has done is it's enabled them to

1145
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: really slow down running quarterbacks. You have a lot more

1146
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 4: athletes on the field, more defensive backs. Really worked against

1147
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: Josh Allen and they were able to essentially take away

1148
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 4: his legs. So you say, Okay, Ravens run defense is

1149
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: really good. They'll have a formula here, play a good

1150
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: amount of zone. With a bunch of defensive backs on

1151
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: the field. You have guys like Kyle Hamilton and just

1152
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: really athletic guys. You can I mean, maybe Daniels is

1153
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 4: just that fast as it doesn't matter, but theoretically.

1154
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out.

1155
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out, and then the way to attack

1156
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: this Ravens team has attack their corners with good receivers

1157
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: and mclorinets have a good game, but this is a

1158
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: real defense that he's facing that can slow down their run.

1159
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: And that's Washington's been able to just run every week

1160
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: and that's kind of what is unlocked the rest of

1161
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: their offense. So really fascinating game here. Lamar has been

1162
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: dominant against the NFC twenty two to one, but I

1163
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: will say a lot of I think part of that

1164
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: at least is the NFC teams it's kind of a

1165
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: shock to their system when they're playing Lamar, and you know,

1166
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: you're not used to that speed at quarterbacks to your

1167
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 4: angles are just a bit off, especially early. One of

1168
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: the reasons Lamar Jackson's the most profitable first half against

1169
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: the spread quarterback in NFL history. But the Washington's practicanst Daniels.

1170
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they just as fast, so maybe that's not

1171
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: as big of an advantage. So yeah, it's not a

1172
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 4: great spot for the Ravens, So I would Washington as well.

1173
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: I think my favorite bet on the board before everything happened.

1174
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: With Rogers kind of going tony soprano and killing Robert Sawloff,

1175
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: was the Bills in this spot, you.

1176
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: Know, obviously the last couple of weeks.

1177
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen even before he got KO that

1178
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: has to be one of the worst games with his

1179
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: career post like his rookie season.

1180
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just they were just off. And

1181
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: now I kind of question myself, like are the Bills

1182
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: that good?

1183
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: I think the Jets stink. I mean, I think Rogers is.

1184
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: We're going to look back in like ten years. I

1185
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: remember the last couple of years in Rogers's career on

1186
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: the Jets wing. It looked like a shell of himself.

1187
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: And this the one thing that keeps popping into my

1188
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: head is like whenever this happens, and you always pop

1189
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: with the stats about interim coaches in these spots, you know,

1190
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: at home as a dog, Jeff Olbrick just ultimate football

1191
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: guy fires, I guess doesn't fire officially, but demotes Hacket

1192
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: for downing who you know, I have been falling down

1193
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: his career since he was on the Raiders. Not my

1194
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: cup of tea, but it's got to be better than Hackett.

1195
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: But is Rogers pissed?

1196
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: You know?

1197
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: I just think this Jets thing is like a powder

1198
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: keg that if the Bills just played decent, we could

1199
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: look up and that they win by twenty in this game.

1200
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, not my cup of tea this play. I mean,

1201
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: you mentioned with the new coach, what historically teams have

1202
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: overperformed expectations in the first game with a new coach.

1203
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Why is that you're basically always a dog in that spot, right, Yeah?

1204
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 4: And I mean so a lot of times it's supposed

1205
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: to rock bottom for a team, right, So you're probably

1206
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: at the low end of the market. You've had some

1207
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 4: bad performances recently, which is true of the Jets. But

1208
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: the other thing is that you know, and maybe it

1209
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: rallies the locker room, right you fire a guy that

1210
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: people weren't getting along with him. Maybe that's true with Rogers.

1211
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest advantage is that you change

1212
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: some things. You're more willing to say, you know, a

1213
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: new voice in the room is more willing to listen

1214
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: to the players and their coaches and say, Okay, the

1215
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 4: reason why this we're not doing well? Our coaches got

1216
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: fired or whatever. Is because things aren't working, what can

1217
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: we do differently? So then you have that, you know

1218
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: you have the chance to make better decisions as far

1219
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: as how you're running your football team. And there's the

1220
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: element of surprise, right, So then what you're doing now

1221
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 4: your opponent doesn't have on film, which provides you with

1222
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: a one game boost. Bills injuries are critical here. They've

1223
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 4: they've had a ton of injuries on defense. Shit, he

1224
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: has been banged up. Cook's been banged up in the backfield.

1225
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 4: So I got to see how healthy they are. Theoretically,

1226
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: the Jets defense, which which is good and has given

1227
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 4: all in trouble in the past, secondary is still good,

1228
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: but their defensive line is nowhere close to as good

1229
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 4: as it's been. You know, they lost a couple guys,

1230
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: they had a couple of injuries. You can run on them.

1231
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: So if the Bills are fully healthy in the backfield,

1232
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: I would expect just you know, your typical Joe Brady

1233
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: game plan where they can get a push here against

1234
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: this Jet's defensive line, which has had no resistance against

1235
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 4: opposing ground games. But uh not, my cup of tea

1236
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: here to to bet the Bills on the road as

1237
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 4: a favorite but I do have a big match of

1238
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: advantage if they're healthy on offense, running the ball at

1239
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: this Jets defense.

1240
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: Guy's gonna be interesting. There'd be a lot of eyeballs

1241
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: on that game. You know what, this fucking Rogers? I mean, what,

1242
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: how can he with a straight face say that he

1243
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: talked to Woody on Monday night and it just never

1244
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: came up. And then the next morning It's like, Aaron,

1245
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: you just went full lebron here.

1246
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

1247
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: It'd be one thing.

1248
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: It's like if he had just said, hey, I'd never

1249
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: talked to Woody or whatever, Okay, like they never consulted me.

1250
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, he just he just called me and just said,

1251
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: how you doing, buddy?

1252
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: Come on, man, that's a that's an all time that

1253
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: that might top the list for Rogers.

1254
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: That might be my favorite Rogers moment so far of

1255
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: his career.

1256
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: That and he's like anyone that even thinks otherwise, you're

1257
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: fucking nuts, Like Aaron, I mean, what are we talking about?

1258
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable.

1259
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

1260
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: I think my actually my favorite number on the board.

1261
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: But it actually feels too easy. How are the Broncos

1262
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: a dog at home? I get the Chargers coming off

1263
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: of bye. I'm sure Jim Harbaugh off a bye throughout

1264
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: the course of his career is fantastic. Uh, But like

1265
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: they're kind of mirror images of each other. You would

1266
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: say the Chargers definitely went healthy, have the better quarterback.

1267
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: But I have been blown away by Denver's defense, Like

1268
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: a couple times watching him against the Raiders, I had

1269
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: to like google who are the players and their secondary

1270
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: Like obviously he's retained, but their team speed is like

1271
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: erline elite just watching them play and their defensive line's

1272
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: been fantastic. I was not the biggest fans Joseph guy.

1273
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, to give up seventy points in an NFL game,

1274
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: but I think the guy's bounced back pretty well. Now,

1275
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: this lot at home a lot of buzz, you know,

1276
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: kind of starting this new rivalry Payton versus Hardball.

1277
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: But it's this number.

1278
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: This feels like too good to be true because I

1279
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: feel like putting like thousands of dollars on the Denver

1280
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: Broncos here.

1281
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot is going to come down to the Chargers' health,

1282
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 4: like are they fully healthy on the offensive line? Is

1283
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: Herbert a lot healthier? Because I will say, I mean,

1284
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 4: if you took the three with Denver at home, the

1285
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: total is like thirty six. I couldn't follow you. Denver's

1286
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: defense has been incredible. They're blitzing a ton like they

1287
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 4: leave the NFL and blitz right on first down, second

1288
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 4: and third down, fourth down. They're bringing five as much

1289
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 4: as any team in the NFL, and they're playing just

1290
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: so a lot of cover zero on the back end.

1291
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: They're playing all.

1292
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: Their dbs can cover mirror guys and.

1293
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: Run yeah, and that's allowing them to be really aggressive upfront.

1294
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Riley Moss is playing really well. I think

1295
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: that he was the first white corner with a pick

1296
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: in twenty two years, I think probably since Seahorn maybe

1297
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: was the last one to do it. He's playing really

1298
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 4: well in the slot. I mean, he is an amazing

1299
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: Swiss Army knighte but great in the slot. Your safeties

1300
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 4: are playing really well, and that's affording Joseph the ability

1301
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: to be as aggressive as he has been now when healthy.

1302
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: The Chargers have a really good offensive line. They want

1303
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: to come out and run the ball. Their weapons aren't

1304
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: great on the outside, so it kind of neutralizes your

1305
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 4: strength of the Broncos secondary. And then just on paper,

1306
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: it's like Herbert versus bo Nicks, like you have the

1307
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: big quarterback advantage. They I think the way to attack

1308
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 4: this Denver defense is to run the ball, and they've

1309
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: played some teams recently that just can't run the ball,

1310
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 4: which has inflated their defensive stats. Like the Bucks haven't

1311
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: been able to run the ball, the Jets haven't been

1312
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: able to run the ball all the Raiders can't run

1313
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: the ball. So if the Chargers are fully healthy, they

1314
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 4: do have some real edges here, but they might not be.

1315
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 4: They're dealing with a bunch of injuries and this total

1316
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 4: super low, and you know the is still a tough

1317
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: place to play, So Broncos at three couldn't follow you.

1318
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: Detroit Dallas.

1319
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: I thought Dallas was pretty impressive in their win against Pittsburgh,

1320
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: But then you start thinking about it.

1321
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: It's like, well, he threw two terrible picks. They had

1322
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: a field goal blocked.

1323
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: It's like, under no circumstances should a good team at

1324
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: home lose when that happens, and he had a fumble,

1325
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: Like how do you get three turnofs from the quarterback

1326
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: and block a field goal and loose? And then you go, well,

1327
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh might just not be that good.

1328
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: So, like is an.

1329
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: Impressive win because they made Dallas' defense, who has been

1330
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: a joke, look pretty good. And then now you're playing Detroit,

1331
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: who's coming off a buye, who's pretty loaded on offense,

1332
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: and they're a Dome team and obviously this game's at Dallas. Guy,

1333
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: they're perfectly made for these type of situations in Dallas.

1334
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: I think the last like three years under McCarthy's been

1335
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: really good at home. Obviously this year they have not

1336
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: looked good. Is one of those like I kind of

1337
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: am I overvaluing last week?

1338
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: Did take Dallas in the spot?

1339
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: Or is this is an awful matchup because you look

1340
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: at Detroit's offense, they are going to be able to

1341
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: take advantage of Dallas's defense, which obviously fields in that

1342
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: situation going on there with Arthur Smith and Tomblin's offense could.

1343
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, I took I took some Dallas especially you

1344
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: can get like even even bind to three and a

1345
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: half or three. It is fine too. I mean, look,

1346
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 4: de Trut's Gonta able to run the ball here. There

1347
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 4: is no doubt about that. They Dallas has def injuries

1348
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: to the two best defensive linemen they already were a

1349
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: bad run defense. So Detroit's gonna have success running the ball,

1350
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: and Sty'll have some success throwing the ball. But I

1351
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 4: like laying three on the road here, even off a bye.

1352
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: That's I think that's given Detroit a little bit too

1353
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 4: much respected. It's not like the lines have been great

1354
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 4: this year. They were really good against Seattle, but Seattle

1355
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: had a ton of injuries on defense, terrible travel spot

1356
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: just short week, even flying all across the country. But

1357
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 4: before then, Detroit, I mean like they were shut out

1358
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 4: in the second half against Arizona. You know, they lost

1359
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: at home to the Bucks. I know that they just

1360
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 4: couldn't score in the red zone. But golf is still

1361
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: deep down inside. He's still a pumpkin, so he can

1362
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 4: just have these awful throws get rattled. But the reason

1363
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 4: I liked I like Dallas here catch you know, field

1364
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: goal obviously is it's extremely important, but Dallas should be

1365
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: able to move the ball on Detroit's defense. Detroit's defense

1366
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: is still not fixed. They almost gave up an NFL

1367
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: record at first downs, and that in that game over Seattle.

1368
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 4: I think Seattle at thirty eight or thirty nine first

1369
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 4: downs in that game Seattle did whatever they wanted, just

1370
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 4: moved up and down the field. Dak and this offense.

1371
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: And those were their starting I get Brandt was out,

1372
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: but those were their starting corners. Can they draft in

1373
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: the first round and they traded for Davis like that?

1374
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: It's like if you those guys are their DBAs.

1375
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: Yep, and they want to play a bunch of men.

1376
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: Dak historically is ripped up man coverage like he is

1377
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: just shreds against man, especially relative to what he does

1378
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: against his own So I just don't there's I don't

1379
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 4: think that there's any world where the Detroit defense, Detroit

1380
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: run defense has been good. Dallas can't really run the ball.

1381
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: I did like some of the changes they made to

1382
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 4: the run blocking scheme last week. I think the better

1383
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 4: suited to the running backs they have, So maybe they

1384
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 4: have a bit more success, but they're not gonna have

1385
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 4: run it. They're gonna have a ton of success running

1386
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: at Detroit, which is, you know, a pass final defense.

1387
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 4: But Dak can match the Lions here score for score.

1388
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 4: Lions don't have the best kicker in the world. The

1389
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 4: other factor is when you have Dallas at home, when

1390
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: you're starting what at a thirty yard line most times,

1391
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 4: what are you gonna get fifteen yards and you get

1392
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: a field goal with Aubrey at home? I mean, like

1393
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 4: that's insane. So yeah, yeah, I took the points here.

1394
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: Before we dive in a London game the Texans. You know,

1395
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: obviously Nico got hurt and they placed him on ir

1396
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: today that I see that headline, Yeah, so that's that's

1397
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: not ideal. I mean he looked like he had he

1398
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 2: had become a I mean a stud. I mean that's

1399
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: so that's a pretty big blow. I know they had

1400
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 2: lost Jimmy Ward in that game last week, so that

1401
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: they're banged up. But New England not only stinks, they're

1402
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: starting the rookie quarterback, which I'm sure you got some

1403
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: statistics on that can give you a little life. I mean,

1404
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: Jacobe was got to the point where he's kind of unplayable.

1405
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean, he brings nothing to the table, can't move,

1406
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 2: can't throw a deep just I mean you're just gonna

1407
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: lose if you insert him, and your team's that bad.

1408
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: So I get going to him, but like to me,

1409
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: this has disaster written all over it. And Demiko's really

1410
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: really aggressive defensive coordinator. I would imagine he's gonna bring

1411
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 2: the fucking heat at this guy, and to me could

1412
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: unravel fast, you know, just being thrown out there. The

1413
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: whole point of red shirting was like, hey, just pay

1414
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: good Jacobe ten million. We know it's gonna suck and

1415
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: be awful, but you got to hold firm. And they

1416
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: just they kind of cave because I would imagine the owner,

1417
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: it's not random, they're doing this at home, right, just

1418
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: they'd probably getting shipped on constantly and wants a little

1419
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 2: positive momentum, which it probably worked today tomorrow, But what

1420
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: happens when the game happens and he's just run around

1421
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: for his life?

1422
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could. I could just be a complete disaster. However,

1423
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 4: me as a masochist, I did take some Patriots plus seven.

1424
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 4: I also took some Saints plus three and a halfs

1425
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 4: So I have Spencer Rattler and Drake May behind offensive

1426
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: lines that have been ravaged by injuries. But I will say,

1427
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 4: and there's there's a lot of uncertainty with both, right, but.

1428
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: They can move at least that's right.

1429
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 4: It's a key like they have mobility, car can't really move.

1430
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 4: You saw their offense fall off the Cliffland's all their

1431
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 4: offensive linemen went down with injuries. Like, Rattler can actually

1432
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: move and you can. The Saints are run first offense

1433
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 4: under Kubiak. You can run on the Bucks maybe one

1434
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 4: of the worst run defenses in the NFL this year,

1435
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 4: so they're going to lean to that. But Rattler's legs, like,

1436
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 4: you need someone with mobility right now behind that offensive line.

1437
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: The same is true with New England. I mean they've

1438
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: lost four or five guys in the offensive line to injury.

1439
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: Bersett can't move, so you need a guy like May

1440
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: who can scramble. He can, he has some evasiveness in

1441
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 4: the pocket. I loved his numbers under pressure while in college,

1442
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that he gives the offense a

1443
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 4: little bit more upside. Seven is a big number to

1444
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 4: lay on the road. I mean, no one is covering

1445
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 4: that number this year in the NFL. I think favorite

1446
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 4: underdogs of six or more this year are like nineteen

1447
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 4: and five against the spread. Houston, that's crazy. Houston hasn't

1448
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 4: been great either. I mean they beat the Bills jo.

1449
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what McDermott was doing late in that game.

1450
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 4: They almost blow that lead against the hurt Bills team.

1451
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 4: But before then they haven't covered the game. Uh, the

1452
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 4: operation just isn't running at you know, it's not it's

1453
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: just not there.

1454
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: They look better in the first half against the Bills,

1455
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: and then Collins went out and they kind of unraveled

1456
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 2: after that.

1457
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Collin's huge, which is gone huge loss. So yeah,

1458
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 4: I took the seven there. I also took and I

1459
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 4: took the Saints with Rattler. You can lean into the

1460
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: run game here. The Bucks have been there. They've been

1461
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 4: pretty fortunate if you look at there, if you look

1462
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 4: at the Saints. The Saint by the way, they've lost

1463
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 4: three in a row. Now home dogs historically, they you're

1464
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 4: talking to home dogs over a field goal after three

1465
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 4: straight losses, are like, it's like sixty three sixty four.

1466
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: They explain to me.

1467
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't see Dennis Allen's quotes, but Hain was

1468
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: the backup in a game, right, so what and then

1469
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: he just makes the move after the fact to bick Rattler,

1470
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: who obviously was the emergency three, to make him the

1471
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: starting quarterback, Like did something change?

1472
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 4: I was just to think I assume that it's offensive

1473
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: line injuries and Rattler gives you more mobility, and you

1474
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 4: know the Bucks are gonna blitz on with balls, so

1475
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 4: I would guess that's it. But yeah, I'm not really sure.

1476
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: I think a conspiracy theory.

1477
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: I could see the management slash owner, you know, push

1478
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: like this feels a little knee jerk. Given again, if

1479
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: Ratler had been the backup for Derek, it would make sense.

1480
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: But he wasn't even the backup for the last couple

1481
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: of games. When we all know at any moment the

1482
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: quarterback can go down, that guy has to play, so

1483
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 2: you were willing to not. I just wonder if something

1484
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 2: happened internally, then maybe the coaching staff like this wasn't

1485
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: their decision could be good. Again, I'm not They obviously

1486
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: liked the guy a lot. I mean, there were a

1487
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: lot of praise coming out in the preseason. Like it's

1488
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: not like they're not high on them. But it's just

1489
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: a little weird when you see a guy that's not

1490
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: the backup, then the guy gets injured in two days later,

1491
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: he's now the back not even the backup, he's a starter.

1492
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be. I mean, it also could be

1493
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 4: just that they, you know, Hayter knew more the offense,

1494
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: which is why he was the backup.

1495
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, coaches like that ship.

1496
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you know, if you're gonna start a game,

1497
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 4: you know, if he uh to prepare, Yeah, and he

1498
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: gives you I mean right, maybe gives you higher upside.

1499
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: I personally think that you're just upset that your president

1500
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: guys and getting the start. Is that true?

1501
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? I wanted to see. I mean, Hanter did have

1502
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: a nice throw in the incompletion on the fourth down.

1503
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: I want lazy.

1504
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: It was even Akerman was like damn, but I I

1505
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 2: just my I was high on the Saints obviously, and

1506
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: they've just done.

1507
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're fucked.

1508
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean they got six seven wins written all over

1509
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: them at this point. I mean they're they're their offensive line,

1510
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: like you said, the injuries, they were getting murdered in

1511
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: that game at the guard center spot. I mean, and

1512
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,839
Speaker 2: Derek you get like you you tall golf a pumpkin.

1513
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: I mean he he can unravel that way too, and

1514
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: he just falls off the cliff when you start touching him.

1515
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: And now he's not even that old. He gets injured

1516
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: a lot. He just has like weird injuries, not like

1517
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: torn acls. But it's like I can cuss. He hurt

1518
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: his shoulder, he hurt his oblique.

1519
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: It's like he gets.

1520
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: He's not exactly Uh you know cal Ripken back there

1521
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: right now.

1522
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean he said he came out in

1523
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: the press and he said he hurt his his I

1524
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: mean not trust me, Derek. I feel you. I'm getting

1525
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 4: old too. He hurt his oblique when he was throwing,

1526
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 4: like just the torque. So yeah, he's no spring chicken.

1527
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 4: But I mean the Saints could have should have. They

1528
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 4: should have beat Atlanta the Bucks, like if they've been

1529
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: getting lucky. I mean, they played the Eagles without their

1530
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 4: whole team. They were out game by three hundred yards

1531
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 4: at Detroit. This is a desperation spot for the Saints.

1532
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: He catching over a field goal. They can run the

1533
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 4: ball here. Their defense is still really good, and they

1534
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 4: can They have the corners to match up with Tampa's receivers.

1535
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 4: That's the key. So yeah, I played Tampa. Here's the

1536
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: quarterbacks I played. I've played Rattler, I played Drake may

1537
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 4: who I just mentioned. I played Will Levis. I think

1538
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: Richardson's gonna play. Richardson's been just as bad as Levice.

1539
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: The difference is Tennessee is a good d Indy doesn't.

1540
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 4: Indy's down there, you know, Jonathan Taylor, Pittman's out. The

1541
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: downs could be out there. Their whole defense is hurt.

1542
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 4: This is like a good defense for Levis to play.

1543
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 4: And if Levis, if he's not healthy or if things

1544
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 4: go wrong, you go to Rudolph. I like Tennessee, off

1545
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 4: the buy here.

1546
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: And help me to Sean Watson, No, I.

1547
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 4: Can't bet the Browns. I did last week. That was

1548
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 4: a mistake. I think they might have quit, like everything

1549
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: around that. NFL teams don't usually quit. I will say

1550
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 4: that in college sometimes, like there's like Ua b under

1551
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 4: Dilfer right now. I think they might have quit. NFL

1552
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 4: teams rarely do you can get like value later in

1553
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: the year when teams like this team quick. But I mean,

1554
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 4: how do you not make a quarterback change? You can

1555
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 4: go to like Winston Well, that's.

1556
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: Where you bring up New England. If that's hovered six

1557
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: and a half seven points, Like they're gonna have fight.

1558
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: Arizona is a good example.

1559
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: They got their ass kicked a couple of times, but

1560
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: like they're gonna fight all season long, and they're they're

1561
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: fucking quarterbacks talented, so like at any given moment, he

1562
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: can make a bunch of plays as he didn't.

1563
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: It's the Niners who got a lot of issues. But

1564
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: I do think the Browns, like the Eagles, are a

1565
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 2: weird team. You mentioned the white corner. I think I

1566
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: saw today headline that you know, they're being kind of mum,

1567
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: but Cooper de Jean's gonna start being their slot corner.

1568
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: So it's the rise of the white guy in the

1569
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: defensive backfield at corner, not just safety, but that's a

1570
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: spot that, like you know, two years ago version of

1571
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles would destroy this Browns team. I actually think

1572
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: it could get weird if somehow this is a game,

1573
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: you know, if Philly, just if Sirianni just wins by

1574
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 2: like four points, people are gonna be pissed.

1575
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1576
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough spot for Sirianni and Jalen. Like

1577
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: the pressure. It's almost like a college game they're going in.

1578
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: It's like you better kick their ass, yeah right, coming

1579
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: off a bye.

1580
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah they have a five. But Brown's on a third

1581
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 4: straight road game, like look like a corpse. I'm not

1582
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 4: laying it with Philly, Like I'm not laying nine and

1583
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 4: a half. I don't ultimately don't trust them.

1584
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the biggest spreads so far

1585
01:17:59,360 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: of the year.

1586
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest was one of the few

1587
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 4: that covered was above a touchdown was San Francisco against

1588
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 4: New England. But you take like a big like here's

1589
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 4: the thing in the NFL, like these big spreads, historically,

1590
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 4: the dogs have fared well. You I mean, you watched

1591
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 4: that San Francisco New England game. San Francisco was dominating

1592
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 4: them throughout and like still a spread at ten, New

1593
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 4: England had a chance to like cover in the end.

1594
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's not college, so I'm generally not.

1595
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: You're not You're not guaranteed touchdowns in the red zone.

1596
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the Niners remove the ball pretty much at

1597
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: will against Arizona, and I think they were like one

1598
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: for six in the red zone.

1599
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: And then obviously in that game their kicker was hurt.

1600
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: But even I would say a big difference in college,

1601
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 2: like if Ohio State are one of these teams is

1602
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: kicking someone else's ass, they're just gonna.

1603
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Score a lot more touchdowns.

1604
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the we're in the NFL, it's like it's pretty

1605
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: easy to fuck up in the red zone like three

1606
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: times and a half. It's like, damn, you only score,

1607
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: you only got how's the score sixteen to seven right now?

1608
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: It feels like they're up forty. Yeah, that happens a lot.

1609
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: I feel like on Sundays.

1610
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly, exactly right. So yeah, no interest in laying it.

1611
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 4: But I can't play the Browns. Your Eagles should have

1612
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 4: everyone back on offense as well. Browns had a ton

1613
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: of injuries. Their offensive line is a mess. I'm just

1614
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: not sure where that locker room is right now. So

1615
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: didn't play the Browns. The other ugly game I did

1616
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 4: play was Jacksonville.

1617
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: Tell me on that one.

1618
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I just don't think I mean, that's

1619
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: up two and a half. I don't think that there's

1620
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 4: any difference between these teams. Like you could say calebsn't

1621
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: playing better, and he has been, but yeah, he' said

1622
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 4: one really good game this year, and that was against

1623
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 4: the Panthers with the worst defense in the league. I

1624
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: have more injuries last week, and by the way, the

1625
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 4: Panthers in that game, they lose two starting offensive linemen.

1626
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: That's why I can't play the Panthers this week. That

1627
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: was the strength their team. Two of their starting offensive

1628
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 4: lineman go down. They have more injuries at wide receiver.

1629
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 4: Team is cursed this year. That was this one game

1630
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: he's playing against I just like a soft his own defense.

1631
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: He's been bad against man. He's gonna see a ton

1632
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 4: of man against Jacksonville. But if you look at what

1633
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 4: the Chicago's sitting at three and two, they have a

1634
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 4: good home win over Carolina. They have the luckiest win

1635
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 4: of the year at home against the Titans. They come

1636
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,919
Speaker 4: back from down seventeen to nothing without scoring an offensive touchdown.

1637
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 4: They just get the game handed to them by Levis

1638
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 4: and a pump block touchdown. They beat the Rams at home.

1639
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 4: They actually got outplayed in that game, and the Rams

1640
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 4: are down their entire offensive line, Cup and Nakula. They

1641
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 4: they even lost to the Colts, who had Richardson playing,

1642
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 4: who's been horrendous this year. The Jags just beat the

1643
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: Colts with Flacco the much better version. I mean, if

1644
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 4: you look at EPA plus completion percentage over expectation, it's

1645
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 4: Richardson out of thirty six quarterbacks at least seventy five dropbacks.

1646
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 4: Richardson's thirty fifth Bryce Young is only a bit behind

1647
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: him at thirty six Flacco's second, Like, that's so much

1648
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 4: better Flack has been. The Richardson Jags beat the version

1649
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 4: of the Bolt with black O. The Bears lose that.

1650
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 4: They only put up sixteen points against that horrendous, horrendous

1651
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 4: Colts defense. So you start to just like peel back

1652
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 4: some of these results for Chicago and hasn't really been impresive.

1653
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 4: Both the teams played at Houston, they both lost by

1654
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: one possession. Jacksonville looked much better. They looked like the

1655
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: much better team. And if you look at Jacksonville, so

1656
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 4: you look on the Service one in fourteen vers three

1657
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: and two, Jacksonville has had a much tougher schedule. They've

1658
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 4: fared better, better against Houston. Yeah, they played Buffalo, they

1659
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 4: got blown out in that game, but they you know,

1660
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 4: they also when you take a look at their strength

1661
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: of their schedule, it's even better because they played Miami

1662
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 4: week one when Miami was healthy. Now Miami's just the

1663
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 4: show of itself, and they fubbled going into the end

1664
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 4: zone to go up seventeen and to clinch that win.

1665
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 4: So I think Jacksonville's been better than advertising. I think

1666
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,879
Speaker 4: this game should be a pick, and like, I trust

1667
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 4: Longlawrence more than Caleb right now. I think the Bears defense,

1668
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 4: which is gonna be a full strength. They're starting Nickel

1669
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 4: banged up, might not play Takwan Brisker, he's out there

1670
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 4: starting safety, and they've been giving up some explosive plays.

1671
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 4: That's where Jacksonville's been living with their downfield passing attack.

1672
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: I just think this is like a true coin flip.

1673
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 4: So if you're gonna give me a couple of points,

1674
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take them in the NFL. And the other

1675
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: thing is Jacksonville has way more experience playing these international

1676
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 4: overseas games. They do it a couple times a year.

1677
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, I think has covered three or four one

1678
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 4: three or four of the past two years. I like

1679
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 4: how the Bears went over there early in the week

1680
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: for their body clock. But this staff is not familiar

1681
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 4: with just everything that comes with these international games. This

1682
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 4: is just second nature for Jacksonville. So I think that

1683
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 4: that at least is a consideration and gives them potentially

1684
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 4: a slight edge. So yeah, I just think this Bears

1685
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 4: team is super overrated. I mean, they could easily be

1686
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 4: should have lost the Tennessee. They played that game a

1687
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 4: million times. They lose nine hundred nine ninety nine of

1688
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 4: those times. They you know, they were out played by

1689
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 4: the Rams, the practice squad at home, and you know

1690
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 4: they they lose those two games. They're they're one and four,

1691
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 4: just like the Jags. And the Jags had a couple

1692
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 4: of points of games that went against them, they could

1693
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 4: easily be three and two. And then I think this

1694
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 4: line is, you know, around a pick, which is where

1695
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: I think it should be. So I like Jacksonville over

1696
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 4: in London to kick off Sunday.

1697
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: You told me I'm taking Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence.

1698
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: So let's do it, Okay, Sonuckey, Let's ruck and roll,

1699
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 2: take some shitty quarterbacks and enjoy a Sunday.

1700
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 4: What could go wrong? Have a good weekend, brother, I'll

1701
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: see you next week.

1702
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 2: The volume