WEBVTT - It Could Happen Here Weekly 146

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, Robert Evans here and I wanted to let

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to it could happen here a podcast about things

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<v Speaker 3>falling apart and how to put it back together again.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an episode where both happen at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Bia Wong, and we are returning to

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<v Speaker 3>what I've realized was I think one of the earliest

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<v Speaker 3>things we ever covered on this show in the sort

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<v Speaker 3>of misty depths of time, which is I guess three

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<v Speaker 3>years ago now. We talked to some organizers and tenants

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<v Speaker 3>from the Hillside Villa Tenant Association, and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>stuffice happened since then. A lot of it is terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>some of it is cool. Well, the stuff, the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you've been doing is cool. The stuff everyone else in

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<v Speaker 3>the situation has been doing is terrible. Yeah, and with

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<v Speaker 3>me to talk about this is Janice you who's an

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<v Speaker 3>organizer from CCUD and on a e tenant organizer at

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<v Speaker 3>Hillside Villa or via Jesus Christ. Why am I doing Villa? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I know I know more Spanish than this. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it of Spanish. When people think that I'm Spanish to

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<v Speaker 3>start talking to me on the street, I can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of communicate with them. Abject failure. Yeah, welcome both to

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you. It's both good and bad to

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<v Speaker 4>be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wish, I wish circumstances were better.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you for having us, and yeah for staying

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<v Speaker 5>in contact with us and trying to stay updated with

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<v Speaker 5>our Hillside Villa. Danna said, Unfortunately, five almost six years

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<v Speaker 5>in and we're still trying to find a solution to

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<v Speaker 5>this epidemic of housing in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's start there. For people who don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>this from many, many eons in the past, can you

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<v Speaker 3>sort of remind people of what kind of organizing has

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<v Speaker 3>been happening and the general situation of this building, of

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<v Speaker 3>these landlords, and of the conditions of people who have

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<v Speaker 3>to rent stuff in La Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Can kind of start with the bigger picture context and

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<v Speaker 6>then an I definitely fill in.

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<v Speaker 4>From your personal experience.

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<v Speaker 6>But basically, hills Ibea is a building that was built

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<v Speaker 6>in the eighties in Los Angeles, Chinatown and it was

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<v Speaker 6>meant to be affordable housing. It had an affordable housing

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<v Speaker 6>covenant for thirty years up until twenty eighteen, and as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as that expired, as would be expected, the landlord,

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<v Speaker 6>Tom Botts, immediately tried to raise rent to market rate,

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<v Speaker 6>which for the low income, working class tenants that work

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<v Speaker 6>at Hillside Villa, it was a two hundred percent increase,

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<v Speaker 6>right yeah, which is a de facto eviction, Like folks

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<v Speaker 6>who were paying eight hundred dollars in rent were now

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<v Speaker 6>being asked to pay twenty five hundred, which is literally

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<v Speaker 6>impossible for some tenants who are on fixed incomes. And

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<v Speaker 6>so it was a huge issue for one of the

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<v Speaker 6>largest buildings in La Chinatown. It has one hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four units, multi ethnic, multi generational, and so as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as that happened, I think one of the tenants,

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<v Speaker 6>DONIEA Luisa, who is no longer with us, called the

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<v Speaker 6>news channels and organizers got involved, and yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 6>six years ago. At this point, and pretty early on

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<v Speaker 6>in the fight, I think at the time, we were

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<v Speaker 6>working with the District one council member at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>Gil Cidillo, who's, you know, an establishment democrat, and he

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<v Speaker 6>had tried to negotiate a deal with Tom Bops, the landlord,

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<v Speaker 6>for a ten year extension that ended up falling through

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<v Speaker 6>because Bots renegged on it, and that was I think

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<v Speaker 6>one of the first moments where tenants realized, we cannot

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<v Speaker 6>trust these politicians to liberate us right to actually solve

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<v Speaker 6>the root issues, and so that's when tenants started actually

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<v Speaker 6>demanding to use eminent domain, which is the government's power

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<v Speaker 6>to basically seize land for public use, to actually use

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<v Speaker 6>that power for affordable housing, and to use it as

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<v Speaker 6>a long term solution for all of these expiring covenants,

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<v Speaker 6>which is a city wide issue. It's not just a

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<v Speaker 6>Chinatown thing. There's actually like thousands of buildings where covenants

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<v Speaker 6>are set to expire in the next few years. So

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<v Speaker 6>that was how this fight was going, and we had

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<v Speaker 6>actually successfully pressured our city council in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 6>in May, which was I think the first time we

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<v Speaker 6>came on the show, to set aside the funding to

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<v Speaker 6>actually do that and to actually, you know, take bold

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<v Speaker 6>action or housing and yeah, I'll pass it over to

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<v Speaker 6>ANII to just share from your own experience.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks. I don't know how I could follow that, but

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<v Speaker 7>I'll try my best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, like Jennis was sharing, the convenant expired in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 5>there was already an attempt to evict my family, as

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<v Speaker 5>I shared in the previous episode.

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<v Speaker 7>So after that is when we all started organizing.

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<v Speaker 5>And then shortly after the pandemic happened and everything shut down.

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<v Speaker 5>During this time, the landlord Tombot like wasn't stopping. He

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<v Speaker 5>was going full throttle into his mission of completely evicting

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<v Speaker 5>and displacing all all the families living here in Chinatown,

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<v Speaker 5>the multi generational families that have been in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 5>not known nowhere else.

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<v Speaker 7>You know this this is our home. Los Angeles is

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<v Speaker 7>our home.

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<v Speaker 5>So with this eviction, it meant that we'd have to

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<v Speaker 5>first be houseless, be out on the street, and be

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<v Speaker 5>forced to like figure something out last minute for ourselves

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<v Speaker 5>and moved somewhere in the outskirts of Los Angeles to

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<v Speaker 5>a place where we're not familiar with. So these are

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<v Speaker 5>some of the things that we were facing then during

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<v Speaker 5>the pandemic and also facing a continued rental increases which

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<v Speaker 5>were illegal during the pandemic and is something that we've

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<v Speaker 5>been dealing post pandemic and recently in a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>our more current meetings. Who is like bringing that to

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<v Speaker 5>light that these were illegal rental increases that had happened

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<v Speaker 5>and that he actually asked the city to pay right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So we had applied to e REP, which is

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<v Speaker 6>basically a rental relief program to support tenants, and what

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<v Speaker 6>Bots did was he asked the government to pay him

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<v Speaker 6>the increased rent rates, the two hundred percent increased rates,

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<v Speaker 6>and the government fucking gave it to him.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And yet he is still demanding that tenants themselves

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<v Speaker 6>pay back their rent debt fully. And what happened with

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<v Speaker 6>the recent deal that was made behind tenants back, which

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<v Speaker 6>is what we're going to get into, is that the

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<v Speaker 6>government basically took the extra money back and are not

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<v Speaker 6>applying it to the tenants rent debt. So that's something

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<v Speaker 6>that we're pretty pissed off about because basically they took

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<v Speaker 6>money that was supposed to be for tenants and just

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<v Speaker 6>gave it back to the city government, which also doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>even make sense because it was federal funding. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of one of the issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we have a situation where the landlord has

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<v Speaker 3>stolen this money and then the city has now stolen

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<v Speaker 3>it from him, which they have stolen federal money for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Jesus Christ literally literally oh God.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's all just like state sanctioned theft.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what else is a structural problem that is

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<v Speaker 3>causing the massive miseration of most of the population on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the products and services that support this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to go to them briefly.

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<v Speaker 8>We are back.

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<v Speaker 3>So is there anything else from sort of I guess

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<v Speaker 3>like the background era of this that we want to

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<v Speaker 3>get to before we move into like what's been happening now.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I think maybe some additional context we can share

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<v Speaker 6>is that after that made twenty twenty one council meeting,

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<v Speaker 6>we ended up really supporting our current council member, a

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<v Speaker 6>Nieces in her campaign to get elected. This was November

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<v Speaker 6>of twenty twenty one. We hosted large forums in Chinatown.

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<v Speaker 6>We really mobilized our base in CCD to turn out

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for her. And I think a powerful anecdote

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<v Speaker 6>is that Richard One of the longest Vietnamese tenants at

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<v Speaker 6>hellsid Via, he's been there for over thirty years. For him,

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<v Speaker 6>this was the first vote that he ever cast in

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<v Speaker 6>this country. And I think that, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 6>a unique story. I think for a lot of our elders,

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<v Speaker 6>it was only because of our efforts that they participated

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<v Speaker 6>in this election. So I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 6>statistics show that the Asian base, the Chinatown base, was

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<v Speaker 6>really essential to getting a Nieces elected. And in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty two, she officially got an off. She was able

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<v Speaker 6>to beat the incumbent Gil Cidio and was the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Quote unquote abolitionist.

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<v Speaker 6>DSA, so Democratic Socialists of America kind of sponsored candidate

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<v Speaker 6>to win an LAC council. And since then we've only

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<v Speaker 6>seen her maybe two or three times. Sorry, And I

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<v Speaker 6>to address the issues at Hill said Via. Even though

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<v Speaker 6>during her campaign phase she rhetorically supported our eminent domain struggle,

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<v Speaker 6>she made a lot of promises as politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, around housing in Chinatown.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I think that kind of brings us up

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<v Speaker 6>to where we are now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's get into what is currently happening, because

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<v Speaker 3>dear God, it's really I don't know, things somehow getting worse.

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<v Speaker 3>What's been happening in the last I guess immediate period.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so wow, so much has happened, and it's really

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<v Speaker 5>hard to actually like keep track of all of the

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<v Speaker 5>big things, whether positive mostly negative things happening. Just so

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<v Speaker 5>much has happened over the last three years. We've been

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<v Speaker 5>in the fight for six years. So as we were

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<v Speaker 5>mentioning in twenty twenty one, there was a vote that

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<v Speaker 5>happened at City Hall where there'd be an evaluation of

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<v Speaker 5>the building in order for the city to purchase a

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<v Speaker 5>hillside villa or last resort would be expropriate through eminent domain,

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<v Speaker 5>although that was never something that the people in power

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<v Speaker 5>at LAHD or that politicians really did behind and like

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<v Speaker 5>always wanted to try something a little less radical, therefore

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<v Speaker 5>going into negotiations, working with the landlord and having these

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<v Speaker 5>conversations with the landlord, with LAHD, with us somewhat in

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<v Speaker 5>the picture but mostly not in the picture. And that

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<v Speaker 5>was done on purpose on behalf of LAHD and Tombots

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<v Speaker 5>and the politicians at CD one. So because we were

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<v Speaker 5>waiting for this evaluation to happen at Hillside Villa, I

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<v Speaker 5>believe LAHD needed to do that evaluation. Well, the landlord

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<v Speaker 5>Tombots didn't allow them to come into the building to

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<v Speaker 5>do that evaluation because it was private property and they

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<v Speaker 5>needed some kind of core order like permit or paperwork

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<v Speaker 5>to allow the city LAHD to come into the building

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<v Speaker 5>to evaluate. That actually halted the process of evaluating in

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<v Speaker 5>order to purchase the building and actually had tenants waiting

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<v Speaker 5>for this evaluation to happen for months, if not over

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<v Speaker 5>a year. And you can imagine how tenants felt like

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<v Speaker 5>if they were like suffocating under these circumstances of waiting

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<v Speaker 5>for the city to act, for Tom Botts to allow

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<v Speaker 5>and there was always this resistance with the landlord and

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<v Speaker 5>with getting LAHD to get up off their ass and

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<v Speaker 5>actually do something. Unfortunately, the chair of LAHD, her name

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<v Speaker 5>is Anne Seul. I'm sure a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 5>heard her name by now. She is not our friend.

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<v Speaker 5>She's wicked in like in not a cool way. She's

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<v Speaker 5>actually as like some conflict of interest in my opinion

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<v Speaker 5>that shouldn't allow her to even be in that position

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<v Speaker 5>that she's in and to have such power over a

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<v Speaker 5>case like ours at Hillside Villa, where she was going

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<v Speaker 5>into negotiations with tombots, and she's also a landlord and

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<v Speaker 5>a white woman.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh Jesus Christ, so it's a double lammy there.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, she became really buddy buddy friendly with tombots

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<v Speaker 5>and that is when negotiations began between her and tombots

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<v Speaker 5>behind the lucha, the fight for housing, behind the organizers backs,

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<v Speaker 5>behind communities back, and so we rallied, we protested, we

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<v Speaker 5>did phone banks for over a year, and things were

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<v Speaker 5>so stagnant, Like I can't even ex expressed to you

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<v Speaker 5>how that at least that one year was. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>part of like, since the last time we were here

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<v Speaker 5>on this podcast was three years ago, well a year

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<v Speaker 5>or more of that was us just waiting around for

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<v Speaker 5>the city to actually do their job. And we can't

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<v Speaker 5>get them to do their job, but we can protest

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<v Speaker 5>and we can do direct action. And so we did,

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<v Speaker 5>and we pulled up to Ansel's house, not once, not twice.

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<v Speaker 5>We rallied the housing community to go protest at her

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<v Speaker 5>home and to make her uncomfortable because at any moment,

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<v Speaker 5>any of us can get kicked out of our home.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there's no sense of security here and we're

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<v Speaker 5>never there to cause harm, you know, to anyone, no

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<v Speaker 5>physical harm or anything. But we're there to also like

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<v Speaker 5>kind of get her to understand how uncomfortable it is

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<v Speaker 5>and how like safe she is in her own home. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>so she called cops on us, She targeted organizers by name.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really sloppy on their end. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>I think i'll stop there in Janice. If you want

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<v Speaker 5>to kind of add anything, I'm sure you have a

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<v Speaker 5>lot to add.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Yeah, that was a really borough summary.

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<v Speaker 6>I think all I want to add is that while

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<v Speaker 6>Box was denying the city access to the building, which

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<v Speaker 6>we you know, questioned deeply because why couldn't a tenant

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<v Speaker 6>just give them access to the building. Why do they

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<v Speaker 6>need special permission from the landlord.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all just.

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<v Speaker 6>Smoke and mirrors, right, delay tactics put on by this

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<v Speaker 6>trifecta of LHD, which is the LA Housing Department, So

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<v Speaker 6>the bureaucrats and then CD one City Council District one,

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<v Speaker 6>the politicians and then bots. They're all completely aligned with

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<v Speaker 6>each other in their end goal of essentially protecting capital,

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<v Speaker 6>protecting landlords.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>So as he was doing that, he initiated the eviction process.

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<v Speaker 6>He started evicting tenants the you know, thirty five plus

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<v Speaker 6>families that are deeply involved in the Tenants Association. He

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<v Speaker 6>sent eviction papers to all of them, so and Ia,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe you can speak to a little bit of like

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<v Speaker 6>what that experience was like to get those papers while

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<v Speaker 6>the eminent domain process wasn't moving forward like it was

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely, well, speaking on behalf of like my mom, who

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<v Speaker 5>I live here with and.

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<v Speaker 7>Who's lived here for over twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>Years, and speaking on behalf of other tenants, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them are elders over fifty years old, have lived

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<v Speaker 5>here for over twenty thirty years. They definitely I felt

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<v Speaker 5>the burden of those eviction papers and the anxiety, the

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<v Speaker 5>heavy emotions that comes with being at fear of losing

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<v Speaker 5>your home at any moment, the health issues that come

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<v Speaker 5>up with that. So they definitely felt a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 5>And as much as much as we've been fighting, as

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<v Speaker 5>much support as we have from the community, like they

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<v Speaker 5>still felt that insecurity of their housing. For me, as

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<v Speaker 5>someone in their twenties and where we've been in this

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<v Speaker 5>fight for over six years or about six years, I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like we've gone through the eviction process and I

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<v Speaker 5>don't fear tombots, and I don't fear his tactics or

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<v Speaker 5>his eviction papers. So there's definitely a difference in the

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<v Speaker 5>way that like a lot of our elders feel. But

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<v Speaker 5>I do have a lot of trust in the organizing

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<v Speaker 5>that we're doing the solidarity. All though things haven't necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>been all like happy and like we're still not really

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<v Speaker 5>getting the things that we've been demanding for, I have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of trust that we're going to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to win those evictions.

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<v Speaker 7>And we know how weak.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Botts is his way of thinking, and how weak

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<v Speaker 5>their lawyers are, So we must keep pushing. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>other way, and we will until this is over.

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<v Speaker 7>If it is ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Over, unfortunately we need to go to ads. Then we

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<v Speaker 3>will come back with not ads and instead more incredibly

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:58.639
<v Speaker 3>beautiful stories of struggle. We are back. I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>promised struggle and I didn't. I should have added and

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<v Speaker 3>also betrayal because it's kind of the.

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<v Speaker 8>Next part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, let's talk about that and the deals that are

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<v Speaker 3>being cut.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So at the beginning of this year, we learned

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<v Speaker 6>that a deal had been negotiated between LHD and bought

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<v Speaker 6>completely behind tenants backs, and we had frustrating meetings with

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<v Speaker 6>a niece's our council member where she was not willing

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<v Speaker 6>to take a public stance, you know, against these backdoor negotiations.

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<v Speaker 6>And so in April of this year, about four months ago,

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<v Speaker 6>there was another motion that was heard in La City

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<v Speaker 6>Council when the kind of details of this deal were

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<v Speaker 6>actually revealed.

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<v Speaker 4>And they are just obscene.

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<v Speaker 6>Basically, Tom Bots is being paid fifteen million dollars by

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<v Speaker 6>the LA government and having a five million dollar loan

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<v Speaker 6>that he has owed the city for I think the

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<v Speaker 6>thirty years since Lasimba was first bill. He's having that

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<v Speaker 6>loan forgiven with zero percent interest, and all of that

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<v Speaker 6>is just to extend the affordability covenant for a mere

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<v Speaker 6>ten years, which might sound like a lot to some folks,

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<v Speaker 6>but in reality is not a lot at all. It

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<v Speaker 6>just means that the children who are in middle school

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<v Speaker 6>now will be in college and have to fight this

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<v Speaker 6>fight another time. Right, And so that happened for Bots,

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<v Speaker 6>great for him. Whereas tenants are being asked to pay

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<v Speaker 6>back over one point five million dollars collectively of back

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<v Speaker 6>rent with three percent annual interest added on, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they're eviction cases were not being dropped. They were promised

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 6>to get their eviction case dropped, but what happened was

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<v Speaker 6>that this month one of our key tenant leaders, Adela,

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<v Speaker 6>her case was moved forward in the courts by bots.

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<v Speaker 4>And we believe it was basically like.

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<v Speaker 6>A test case to basically pressure tenants to sign the

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<v Speaker 6>new contracts, you know, threatening if you don't sign, this

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<v Speaker 6>is what's going to happen to you too. And she

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<v Speaker 6>is supposed to have a court date in September or October,

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<v Speaker 6>So the timing is very obvious right time this so

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<v Speaker 6>that tenants would sign these new contracts that we were

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<v Speaker 6>told would come out last week, it ended up being

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<v Speaker 6>that they didn't come out till.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit later.

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<v Speaker 6>And when we actually received the details of the new lease,

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<v Speaker 6>we were even further taken aback because some of the

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<v Speaker 6>details of this lease are just really wild. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a complete regression from any kind of tenant law

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<v Speaker 6>or tenant protection against harassment. Some of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>this new lease includes is that there are behavioral stipulations

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<v Speaker 6>is what they're being called. Yeah, just that term itself,

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<v Speaker 6>right is so cursed. But the stipulation say that if

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<v Speaker 6>a tenant merely plays amplified sound in any of the

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<v Speaker 6>public communal spaces of the building or records slash slanders

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<v Speaker 6>slash harasses the landlord or management. They can be immediately

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<v Speaker 6>evicted without a jury trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is insane.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, these are clearly anti organizing policies because these

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<v Speaker 6>are some of our tools are to amplify sound and

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<v Speaker 6>to and it's our right to be able to record

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<v Speaker 6>landlorder management when they are usually the ones harassing us.

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<v Speaker 6>They are always the ones harassing us, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 6>one of the key issues with the new lease. Also,

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<v Speaker 6>the eviction cases are not even being dropped after tenants

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 6>sign this new lease. They're merely being suspended. And the

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<v Speaker 6>court actually retains jurisdiction for six years over the eviction cases,

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<v Speaker 6>which is not something that any of the tenant lawyers

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<v Speaker 6>we have worked with have ever seen before. And what

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<v Speaker 6>this means is that if the tenants are late just

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<v Speaker 6>one day on the rent plus the debt repayment that

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<v Speaker 6>BOTS is asking for, they can also be immediately evicted

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<v Speaker 6>without a jury trial. And then, finally, this one is

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<v Speaker 6>one of the kickers, is that in the lease, Bots

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<v Speaker 6>also wrote language saying that the tenants are responsible for

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<v Speaker 6>paying his lawyer fee, which are up to are up

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<v Speaker 6>to thirty thousand dollars, and he is also demanding that

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 6>the tenants pay his lawyer fees with three percent in

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus Christ. So he's asking tenants to pay for their

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<v Speaker 6>own evictions.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the most wild parts of this whole

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<v Speaker 4>thing is.

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<v Speaker 6>That Adie Nieces is doubling down on calling this a

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<v Speaker 6>good deal. She is caught on recording at a recent

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<v Speaker 6>protest that we did at her house saying that she

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<v Speaker 6>would recommend that one of her family members signs this deal,

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<v Speaker 6>which essentially signs their rights away and commits them to

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<v Speaker 6>paying an exorbitant amount of money to get evicted.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, this is what we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I want to kind of focus in on

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<v Speaker 3>that last part because that is a DSA elected like

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 3>that is one of the people that she ran. That

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 3>was also so very specifically was you know, someone who

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<v Speaker 3>was elected off of your organizing and is now instantly

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<v Speaker 3>turned around and gone, I would tell my own family

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<v Speaker 3>to pay this guy's lawyer to evict you, which is nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, hardly socialists, hardly progressive, hardly even liberal at this point, right.

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 6>It's just such naked, blatant protection of neoliberalism. And she

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<v Speaker 6>not only called this a good deal, she when we

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<v Speaker 6>brought up the behavioral restrictions, she referred to those as

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<v Speaker 6>simply good neighbor policies that we all have to abide by.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is ridiculous.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 10>Like what.

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<v Speaker 6>So just completely normalizing the landlord, you know, maximizing his power,

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 6>gaining more power than any landlord has ever had in

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 6>the city, and completely restricting the tenants right to organize

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 6>and to fight against harassment.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think this raises a really important question

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 3>about what are we actually doing as a movement for

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 3>the people who aren't involved in this, like who are

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 3>involved directly in the tenants organizing, Like, if the thing

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 3>that you're doing is putting people like this in power

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>who get elected off of movement and immediately turn on

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 3>them inside with landlords, is what is your political project

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 3>And if this is something that you're okay with, you

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 3>need to sit down and reevaluate what you actually believe.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's something that you're not okay with, you need

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>to sit down also and ask yourself how did it

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<v Speaker 3>come to this? And why is this something that you

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 3>think is acceptable?

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm, yeah, a thousand percent so far, even though

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 6>we protest today and he says last weekend, we haven't

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<v Speaker 6>really heard from DSA folks in terms of actually publicly

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 6>supporting us and publicly holding a Unie says accountable. So

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 6>that's something that we would like to see ideally.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like like again, like I know there are

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 3>DSA people at LA listening to the show, like, please

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 3>come collect your trash, like this is this is this

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 3>is your problem, and you also have to be part

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 3>of the solution to dealing with it, because right now,

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>what you have is a situation where a bunch of

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>tenants and a bunch of tenant organizers are fighting your

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 3>people at the same time as they're also fighting the

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>landlords and the rest of the city governments and the

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 3>city bureaucracy. And this is this is the situation that

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<v Speaker 3>I think is just absolutely unacceptable and that can be

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<v Speaker 3>intervened in by people who are supposed to be doing

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>this and haven't been.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, speaking on that, I have a lot of feelings

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 5>around that, and as someone that has experienced a lot

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 5>of displacement in Echo Park and not happening in Chinatown.

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 5>It's something that's followed me my whole life and dealing

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 5>directly with the problem of like gentrification and the people

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 5>coming into our neighborhoods or mostly.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 7>Like liberal folks.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 5>I know a lot of them benefit from the displacement

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 5>and gentrification, and it's really easy for them to look

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 5>away or just kind of like show their shoulders and

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>just go have brunch at a new Eco Park or

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Highland Park cafe.

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 7>So definitely thank you for calling that out.

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, we really need to like think radically and

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 5>reimagine what it would look like to find a different

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 5>solution where we're not relying on these politicians or yeah,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 5>the city to find those solutions, because it's evident that

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 5>six years into our fight at Hillside Villa.

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 7>It's been cyclical where we're.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Asking our council members to represent us, and again and

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 5>again they give us false promises and disappoint us, and

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 5>there's complete hypocrisy and backstabbing on behalf of the politicians.

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 5>And you know, all of these are tactics. With the

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 5>LAHD making us wait for so long, with tom Bots

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 5>working with them, I think that's a tactic, is making

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 5>the people the community wait for so long that they

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 5>get tired, They get tired of fighting, they get tired

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 5>of waiting, And unfortunately that has been a tactic that

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 5>I've seen, like has gotten to a lot of our

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 5>elder folks or people that are just fed up having

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 5>to deal with the bureaucracy of it all. That a

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 5>lot of them, kind of not everyone. For example me,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm still believe eminent domain could have been like a

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 5>more radical solution in a way for us to take

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 5>that power back from the city and the way that

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 5>they use these laws to benefit them that we could

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 5>use like eminent domain to help us for once. But

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 5>eminent domain was completely given up on on with like

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 5>certain tenants that we're tired of fighting and wanted to

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 5>reach an agreement and wanted to reach a deal. So

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 5>then we have this fifteen year deal that is then

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 5>turned into ten years because those five years that we

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 5>had been fighting is included into that fifteen years. Not

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 5>only that, but yeah, he gets fifteen million dollars plus

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 5>his debt to the city forget or extended. I forget

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 5>which one it is, but this full's a millionaire. Yeah,

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 5>he has a bunch of houses in Malibu he doesn't

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 5>need any more money, And it's just really disappointing that

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 5>at a time like this where we know that things

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>aren't working anymore and that things needs to change, that again,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 5>the city and the politicians are continuing to side with

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 5>the landlords and continue the cyclical oppression of lack of

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 5>housing and lack of accessibility to housing that affected me

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>as a child, and that is going to affect the

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 5>children that are around me now and the teenagers and

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 5>the single parents. So that's why we need these better solutions.

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 5>And Yeah, like Jenna said, for the two or three

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 5>years that Eunice's has been around in office, we've only

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 5>seen her two or three times. She doesn't know what's

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 5>going on half the time. And she is actively supporting

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 5>shops here in Chinatown that are gentrifying the community. Not

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 5>only herself, but her office is actively trying to divide

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 5>our organization and our tenant association.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 6>I think even during her initial meetings with us, she

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 6>would kind of use this line of I don't want

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 6>to hear from organizers, especially one of our most committed

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 6>organizers is a white male lawyer.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 4>He's there with us every single week.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 6>She would specifically scapego him and you know, say, oh,

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to hear from a white lawyer.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm here to hear from the tenants.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 6>And that dynamic actually like really got entrenched in our organizing,

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 6>where some tenants then began to weaponize that and sow division, and.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 4>She continues to use that as a.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 6>Talking point, Like we saw during the most recent protest

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 6>at her house, she continued to use both of these

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 6>tactics weaponizing identity politics, which was really ironic because as

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 6>she was saying that, you know, from one side of

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 6>her mouth, on the other side, she's receiving advice from

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 6>this white hipster musician that she appointed to her office

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 6>who's literally telling her every two minutes, like what is

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 6>actually on this contract because she clearly has not read.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 6>So it was just really ironic to see that play

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 6>out in real time. She continued to say that she

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 6>only wants to hear from tenants, even though tenants are

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 6>saying the same exact things that the organizers are, but

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 6>she's infantilizing them right by saying, like, oh, you wouldn't

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 6>believe these things if these organizers weren't putting them into

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 6>your brains. No, these tenants very much have the ability

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 6>to make their own decisions and their own critical thinking,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 6>and we're offering them information that they are then you know,

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 6>taking in themselves. And then ultimately, with the most recent protests,

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 6>she just completely gas lit us for demanding more than

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 6>she's giving. The whole vibe was basically like, why aren't

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 6>you guys grateful for the ten year extension. Why aren't

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 6>you grateful to me for finding two hundred and fifty

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars to help you repay your debt?

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 4>Maybe we're not grateful.

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 6>Because when that two hundred and fifty thousand dollars runs out,

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 6>tenants were on fixed incomes are immediately vulnerable to eviction,

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 6>and they're vulnerable to eviction even before that if they

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 6>even just blast their music too loud in the patio

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 6>based on this lease. So, yeah, we are very very

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 6>pissed off at CDU one right now.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know, people, people listen to the

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>show a lot, like you should all recognize these tactics

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>because these are all incredibly standard union busting tactics, like

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 3>the whole like dragging out the first contract negotiation, UH,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 3>trying to do divide and conquer between the union and

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, doing the Oh these are outside organizers, like

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the union's outside organizer. This is all just straight up

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 3>union busting one oh one stuff exactly.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that word up, because

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 6>that's what we've been calling it the past year, exactly

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 6>like you said, third partying the union dragging out contract negotiations.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 6>And the I think the sad thing is that tenant

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 6>organizing has a lot less protections than labor organizing or

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot less you know, formalized law, so we don't

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 6>have things like the NLRB that can maybe give us

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 6>a little bit more teeth in fighting against unfairly por practices.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 4>So that could probably be.

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 6>A whole other conversation, a comparison between tenant and labor organizing,

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.439
<v Speaker 6>but so many parallels as well.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 5>And then like also, she made so many promises and

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 5>sweet talked so many of us, and there's this like

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 5>respectability politics that a lot of even tenants became divided

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:29.720
<v Speaker 5>within our movement because they put so much trust into

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 5>her office and into the in their hands, whereas other

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 5>tenants were still very critical and very hard on U

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 5>Niss anytime she was around, we really questioned them and

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 5>a lot of the tenants didn't like that, and they,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, demanded that we not question them and that

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 5>we behave in an educated manner. But look look at

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 5>what we have now. We have a contract that is

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 5>completely has sold all of us out and what for,

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, for these promises and fooling the people into

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 5>believing her into trusting those promises or that she would

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 5>actually have our best interest. So here we are and

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 5>these are some of the things that we've also been

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 5>dealing with in the association.

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and just to quickly add on to the point

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 4>you were just making an I E. I think we've really.

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 6>Learned these past few years about the insidiousness of these

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 6>so called progressive electeds, right, who come from some kind

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:51.479
<v Speaker 6>of left leaning background. Aganieces comes from Law Defensa, which

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 6>is a nonprofit that has organized for you know, certain

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 6>kinds of reforms within prison spaces, and so she would

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 6>constantly refer to herself as an organizer and weaponize that right,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 6>like as an organizer, like I know what I'm doing

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 6>and you guys can trust me. Whereas with Sidillo, the

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 6>previous council member, the contradictions were just obvious, like we

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 6>knew this guy was bullshit, and you know, we would

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 6>just be openly fighting him all the time. But in

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 6>a lot of ways, us getting her elected I think

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 6>made our organizing harder because of the way that she would,

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, call us her fam which should have been

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 6>a red flag from the beginning, right, that's also another word. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 6>call your co worker, here's your family. But yeah, I

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 6>think that's definitely been a huge lesson in the past

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 6>few years.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's I think something is not very well

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>understood about the way that sort of campaigns are destroyed

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 3>is that like someone who is nominally on the same

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>side view is significantly more dangerous of an opponent than

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 3>someone who isn't right. And I mean, like you can

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 3>look at immediately after World War Two in Italy in

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineteen nineteen twenty, there's this thing called the Bennio Rosso.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 9>This is the two Red years.

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 3>The two Red Years culminate in what becomes known as

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 3>the occupation of the factories. This is these mass sort

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 3>of workers' movements sort of cumulating from all of the

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 3>effects of the war and all of the sort of

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 3>repression that's been happening for centuries in Italy. And what

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 3>happens is instead of calling a conventional general strike, in

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 3>which you know, workers leave the factories and allow boss

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 3>to hold on to them, workers instead just seize control

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 3>and occupy the factories they work.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.240
<v Speaker 9>And this is why, you know, it's called the occupation

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 9>of the factories.

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>And in this period, right, these workers have the capitalists

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 3>on the ropes.

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Without control of the factories, the bosses can't restart production

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 3>with scabs. And more importantly, it puts the workers in

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>the position to simply drive the bosses out entirely and

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>restart production under the control of the workers who work

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 3>in these places and who literally build the entire economic

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 3>system that these capitalists have been profiting from. And this

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 3>was the best chance and any country in Europe was

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>ever going to get to defeat the capitalists once and

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 3>for all. Right, this was this was the best they

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>were ever going to have it. But the worker's oldest allies,

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 3>these are the socialists and social democratic politicians in the

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Socialist Party opposed the occupations. And these these Socialist Party politicians,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 3>these are their friends, These are their comrades, these are

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>these are the people who lead their unions. I mean,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 3>these are people who you know, a lot of these

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>people have spent thirty years organizing with these people just

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 3>to carve the workers movement out of sort of the

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 3>stone of history. These are the people, you know, who,

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of cases like they had gone to

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 3>war with. So when the social democrats told them to

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 3>immobilize and told them to go home and told them to,

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, just give the fact the factories back to

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the capitalists and give up all of their leverage, the

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 3>workers listened, and once they've been totally demobilized, there was

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 3>no way for them to resist the fascists. Lussolini Marsha

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 3>on Rome the next year, and in the wake of

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the socialists betrayal, the fascists would rule Italy for twenty

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>five years. You have to be incredibly weary of these

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>people who who take power from you know, like the

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 3>most personal example to be is we have this with

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Johnson, who was like a you know, the big

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 3>here that he was the mayor of Chicago, where I

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess technically now I don't live there, but I

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>live there for ages. Who was you know, quote our

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote movement mayor and then immediately started just fucking

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 3>putting migrants that had been like bust up in just

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.919
<v Speaker 3>like these fucking horrible conditions in camps. People were dying,

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 3>people are getting fucking terrible diseases, like buildings with mold

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 3>in them, like stuff that was condemned, and like all

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff happened, and you know, and it really

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of in a very similar way. Because this was

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, this was supposed to be one of us.

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 3>The resistance to it has been really inutered. And that's

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 3>a dynamic that you know, we haven't had as much

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>in the US because there hasn't been a left in

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 3>this country until really the last maybe decade, and that's

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 3>stretching it. And now, you know, we need to actually

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 3>get back to understanding how this kind of stuff works,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>because more and more the people who are going to

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.919
<v Speaker 3>be arresting you are people who you know, you used

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>people used to be organizing with people, people who you

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 3>used to know, and people who even when you put

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 3>a mic in front of their face, will claim to

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 3>be on your side.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 6>No, those are some really great comparisons to draw to.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I think we've definitely learned to be more

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 6>vigilant collectively.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 4>It's here.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is there anything else that you two want to

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 3>say before you wrap up.

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's really important to hold people accountable always.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 5>As much as they don't want to be held accountable,

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 5>they still they probably won't, but they still have a

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 5>responsibility to the community. And yeah, I think we need

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 5>to do stick to direct action and less working alongside

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 5>of politicians because at the end of the day, the

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 5>same thing will happen again and again, will be sold

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 5>out and it'll be a big.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Waste of time.

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 5>So I think the collective power of community in doing

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 5>direct action always will be the solution. And that's something

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<v Speaker 5>that I've learned more recently and the way that things

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<v Speaker 5>have kind of unfolded with Hillside Villa. And lastly, I

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<v Speaker 5>know there are some key demands for CD one we

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<v Speaker 5>can share it too.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I think picking up on what you were saying,

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<v Speaker 6>an Ie, direct action has always been our bread and

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 6>butter to actually get meaningful results, and we're already seeing

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 6>it after this recent protest at a Unicis's house where

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<v Speaker 6>CD one, the city council district, is now completely changing

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 6>their tun and saying oh this this lease was just

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<v Speaker 6>a draft, like you don't have to feel pressured to

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<v Speaker 6>sign it. You can put together a counter proposal, and

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 6>that is completely not what they were saying at all

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<v Speaker 6>before the protest. They were really really pressuring us to

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<v Speaker 6>sign the lease, and even at the protest right a

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 6>niece is recommending that a family member would sign it.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're already seeing the results, and in our counterproposal,

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 6>we plan to really highlight a few demands. First and foremost,

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 6>that the rent debt is turned into consumer non evictible debt.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 6>No behavior stipulations, those are bullshit, the eviction cases actually

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 6>get dismissed and not suspended in court for six years.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally, no.

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<v Speaker 6>Fifteen million for Bots until a fair deal is reached.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's a key point of leverage because CD one

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<v Speaker 6>is acting as the escrow of the fifteen million, meaning

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 6>that they're supposed to, Yeah, see if both parties, so

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 6>US and Bots quote unquote like fulfill what we're supposed

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 6>to with a deal before giving Bots the fifteen million.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 4>And so they have so much power over this situation.

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<v Speaker 6>They keep throwing their hands up and saying they don't

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 6>have power, but they.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Can withhold the fifteen million from him until.

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 6>He actually responds to some of these demands. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>what we really want to highlight in this moment. And

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 6>for folks who you know, want to kind of stay

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 6>updated on the struggle.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 4>Our handle on both Twitter and Instagram, I believe is

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 4>Hellside Underscore.

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so feel free to check us out there and

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<v Speaker 6>stay updated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we'll put link to the description too. And

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 3>on that note, thank you to both so much for

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 3>coming on. And yeah, fuck them fuck did d you

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 3>say elected? Fuck the landlords? What the hell department? I

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 3>hope you hope you crushed the ball?

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, fuck them all.

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having us. And yeah, definitely

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 5>the city a lot needs to be dismantled and reimagined

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 5>and reconstructed, starting with housing and so much more. But

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<v Speaker 5>thank you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I encourage everyone listening to the show. Give

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 3>him hell, who whoever them is in this scenario, give

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>him hell.

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 9>Welcome to it could happen here. I'm Andrew Siege at

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 9>the YouTube channel andrews and I'm excited to discuss yet

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 9>in the facet anarchus history from another part of the route.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 9>This time would take a look at the history of

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 9>anarchism in Chile. In my discussion of Peruvian anarchistsyndicalism. I

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<v Speaker 9>mentioned the cross border contacts between Peruvian and Chilean syndicalists,

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 9>particularly of the IWW variety, So what else were they

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 9>doing in that time? Howid's syndicalism get started in Chile,

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 9>let's find out. All credit due to the work of

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 9>Larry Cambone's anarchism in Chile and especially Jose Antonio Quterres

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 9>Danton's eighteen seventy two to nineteen ninety five anarchism in

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 9>Chile without further ado nos comensimos. During the French Revolution

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 9>of eighteen forty eight that founded the French Second Republic,

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 9>which was part of the so called Springtime of the

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 9>People's where revolutions swept through Europe. Two notable figures of

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 9>Chilean and liberal revolutionary history happened to be at Paris

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 9>at the time, Santiago Arcos and Francisco Bilbao. Santiago Arcos

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 9>was a Chilean liberal who lived in exile in Paris

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 9>because of his father's involvement with the independence government. He

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 9>rubbed shoulders with French socialists and liberals alike, and also

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 9>met Francisco Bilbao upon his families whore two into Chile,

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 9>they tried and failed to start a bank due to

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 9>government pressure, so his father returned to Europe, but Arcos

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 9>stayed in Chile, and after his father died he got

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 9>a hefty inheritance and would go on to take part

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 9>in various struggles around Latin America. Arcos also famously wrote

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<v Speaker 9>Frontiers and Indians, a Question of Indians, and which he

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 9>advocated for killing off of the indigenous people because it

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 9>was cheaper than maintain the garrison to protect the settlers

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 9>from attacks. Bit of a record scratch movement, but unfortunately

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 9>typical of the time. Francisco Bilbao was another Chilean liberal

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 9>who lived in Paris. Prior to his migration, he published

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 9>a rather controversial article to Chilean sociability lass, Sociability Dad Chilena,

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 9>which was condemned by Chilean authorities as blasphemous and immoral

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 9>for its critique to the Church and state. After his condemnation,

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 9>he moved to Peru, where he was condemned for criticizing

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 9>the Peruvian president. So he left for Paris, and in

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 9>Paris he met Arcos, and upon their return to Chile,

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 9>together Arcos and Bilbau founded lassosier Dad de la igual Dad,

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<v Speaker 9>or the Equality Society, which was marginally influenced by mutualist thought.

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<v Speaker 9>You see, anarchism fungus came to Chile by way of

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 9>the mutualist strain. Unfortunately, it was quickly suppressed by the

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 9>conservative government, but not before the establishment of the country's

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 9>first mutual aid society of as many of one hundred artisans.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 9>Those artisans would take part in the eighteen fifty one

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:41.760
<v Speaker 9>Chilean Revolution against the Conservative government, which unfortunately didn't succeed.

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 9>After the feeling of the revolution, the conservative government began

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 9>a program of political persecution against the instigators of the uprisings,

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 9>which included arrests and deportations. Bilbao and Arcos were among

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 9>those exiled. Other mutual societies were forming the late eighteen

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 9>fifth as mutualism was caden influence among artisans like printmakers, shoemakers,

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 9>and tailors. In eighteen sixty two, the mutual aid Society

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 9>La Union was founded as a general mutual for all

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 9>artists of all trades in Santiago and offered both workshops

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 9>and medical services, and established a school for artisans and

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 9>their children. By the early eighteen sixties, there were some

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 9>seventy cooperatives, both consumer and producer. By eighteen seventy there

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 9>were thirteen neutrals, which saved alleviate misery. In spite of

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:36.240
<v Speaker 9>economic depression. La Union branched out over a dozen cities,

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 9>and in addition to education, health and welfare, it formed

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 9>a philharmonic society. So why do you think these orcs

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 9>became influential. It's probably because they were practicing what they preached,

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 9>showing the proof of concert to their ideas through practical

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 9>application of the principles of libertymutuality, solidarity and self education.

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 9>In eighteen seventy two, the Chilean section the International Workingmen's

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 9>Association was established in Valparaiso, which is a major coastal

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 9>city in Chile. Eighteen seventy two was also the year

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 9>the anarchists were kicked out of the International, so the

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 9>Chilean section didn't last too long, but it did plant

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 9>a seed. Libertarian ideas were spread in particularly among the

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 9>nitrate miners. Keep that in mind for later. Then boom

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 9>eighteen seventy nine, Chile goes to war with Bolivia and

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 9>Peru and actually wins, which makes Bolivia landlocked. And that's

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 9>why it still land ocked to this day. The war

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 9>profited the Chilean and English nitrate mine bosses and the

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 9>Chilean state, but of course the workers themselves suffered. By

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 9>eighteen eighty there were thirty nine mutual aid societies responding

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 9>to those needs after the war. In eighteen eighty seven,

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 9>the Union Republicana del Pueblo or People's Republican Union, was

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 9>formed with an anarchist platform. Not long after, with a

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 9>series of strikes by rail workers, miners and others, the

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 9>workers launched the first national general strike in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 9>and it was brutally crushed and followed by further brutality

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 9>as in eighteen ninety one, the president Bamasada tried to

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 9>press through reforms against the wishes of both Congress and

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 9>foreign capital interests, which led to a civil war. The

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 9>workers suffered Semo Semo and Bamaceada was defeated and deposed

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 9>and then committed suicide. Truly revolutionary anarchism came to Chile

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 9>in the eighteen nineties through an anarchist immigrant from Spain

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:34.399
<v Speaker 9>named Manuel Chinchilla. Chilean anarchist Carlos Rquera was influenced by Chinchilla,

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 9>and together they formed the Centro des Studio Socialists Center

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 9>for Social Studies in eighteen ninety two and published the

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 9>paper El O Primido The Oppressed. Another group of anarchists

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:48.280
<v Speaker 9>from IL Centro Sociality, the Tarbahadores or Workers Social Center,

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 9>founded the journal L three to dil Pueblo the People's Scream.

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 9>Among the other societies and papers forming during this period

0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 9>included societad the Protecti al Trabahador Imutuo Apoyo or Society

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 9>for Workers Protection and Mutual Aid, and Il Proletario the Proletaria.

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<v Speaker 9>In eighteen ninety four, the Chilean mutualists formed the Federacion

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 9>de Tabahadores Chile or Workers Confederation the FTCH, which was

0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.840
<v Speaker 9>the first national federation of workers in Chile and history.

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 9>It wasn't all that radical outside the context of conservative government,

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 9>that is, as it fought for social reform as well

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 9>as the usual activities of education and health insurance, but

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 9>it was influential. By nineteen twenty five it had more

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 9>than one hundred thousand members. In eighteen ninety eight, there

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 9>was a general strike in the coastal city of Ikike,

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.720
<v Speaker 9>and new societies were formed like Partido Obrero Francisco Bilbao,

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 9>which became an anarchist group in eighteen ninety nine, and

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 9>resistant societies were also formed for railway workers and carpenters,

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 9>which should go on to play a major role in

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 9>Santiago General Strike of nineteen oh seven. Magazines, as always

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 9>were also founded, like La Tromba Irrebele and Latin Torture.

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.240
<v Speaker 9>We also got to see the fust demonstrations against military

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 9>service and the army in Chilean history, under the slogan

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:11.280
<v Speaker 9>the army is the academy of crime. From nineteen hundred

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 9>to nineteen ten, anarchists were the best organized of all

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 9>the radical groups, according to Larry Gombone, particularly in print making,

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 9>bacon shoemaking, and the docks. In nineteen hundred, there were

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 9>thirty resistant societies concentrated in central Chile among industrial workers.

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 9>The resistant societies were decentralized rotated positions, acted autonomously and

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 9>were active in strikes. By nineteen ten, there were four

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 9>hundred and thirty three resistant societies, the total membership of

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 9>fifty five thousand. The year nineteen hundred also marked the

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 9>establishment of man communales or brotherhoods within the mutualist movement,

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 9>which fused the mutual aid societies were trade unions. The

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.760
<v Speaker 9>first Man Cuminale organized in Nikike Balloon into a movement

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 9>of six thousand members, which is the majority of the

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.360
<v Speaker 9>nitrate and maritime workers in northern Jule. The Man Communale

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 9>movement favored direct action at a much greater level of

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 9>organization and solidarity than the resistance societies. The resistant societies

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 9>were local, Man communales spanned large territories, uniting different trades

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 9>on a city, then provincial, then national level. One of

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 9>the accomplishments of these movements was the crowing presence of workers' strikes,

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 9>empowered by solidarity. In nineteen oh two, harbor workers staged

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 9>a sixty day strike, and in nineteen oh three there

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 9>was a general strike in the port city of Alparaiso,

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:40.720
<v Speaker 9>resulting in the murder of more than one hundred workers

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 9>by the state. That rebellion spread to the cities of Antofagasta,

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 9>Iota and Coronet and lasted for forty three days. When

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 9>the Man Communales federated in nineteen oh four as the

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 9>Grand man Coominal Dolberas, they brought together twenty one thousand members.

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:00.880
<v Speaker 9>A year after their federation was the Red Week of

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen oh five. Tired of the inhuman conditions, the cost

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 9>of living, the high taxes, a workers committee known as

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 9>Centreo their Studios sociated dad at the Nao Obrero called

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 9>all workers to join the strike and to support the cause.

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<v Speaker 9>By October twenty second of nineteen oh five, thirty eight

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 9>thousand people had joined the uprising, including bushers, shoemakers, tanners,

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 9>cigar makers, truckmen, tapestry makers, typographers, telegraphers, blacksmiths, tinsmiths, bakers,

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 9>and railway workers. The mayor eighteen hundred police officers tried

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 9>to kill the energy on the streets, as did the

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 9>ruling class funded White Guard, but despite their massacre two

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 9>hundred and fifty workers, the movement continued to grow. By

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 9>nineteen oh six, workers were active in the Ferracio the

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 9>Tapadores de Chile or the FDCCH, and students had organized

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 9>the Feracio and their Studiantest de Chile or FECCH. Unfortunately,

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 9>the mancominale movement and almost died after the nineteen oh

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 9>seven depression and severe military repression, the worst instance of

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 9>which was the Santa Maria massacre. Of Ikike, where over

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 9>three thousand minitrate miners and their supporters were killed by

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 9>machine gun file after going on strike for better living

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 9>conditions than the company towns built around the mines. The

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 9>company towns were run by the mine owners, who owned

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 9>the workers' housing, owned the company's store, monopolized all commers,

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 9>employed a private police force, and paid workers in tokens

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 9>instead of money. The strikers was joined by their wives,

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<v Speaker 9>children and other workers in the city of Ahike and

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<v Speaker 9>had set up strike headquarters at the Santa Maria School.

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<v Speaker 9>They were given an hour to disband or be fired upon.

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<v Speaker 9>When they stood firm, a certain General silver Renard, known

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<v Speaker 9>as the Butcher of Ikike, gave US troops the order

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<v Speaker 9>to fire upon the strikers, their wives, and their children.

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<v Speaker 9>One eyewitness said quote on the central balcony stood thirty

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<v Speaker 9>or so men in the prime of their life, life

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<v Speaker 9>quite calm, beneath a great Layan flag, and surrounded by

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<v Speaker 9>the flags of other nations. They were the strike committee.

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<v Speaker 9>All eyes were fixed on them, just as all the

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<v Speaker 9>guns were directed at them. Standing they received the shots

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<v Speaker 9>as though struck by lightning. They fell, and the great

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<v Speaker 9>flags fluttered down over their bodies. There was a moment

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<v Speaker 9>of silence as the machine guns were lowered to aim

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<v Speaker 9>the school yard and the hall occupied by a compact

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<v Speaker 9>mass of people who spilled over into the main square.

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<v Speaker 9>There was a sound like thunder as they fired. Then

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<v Speaker 9>the gunfire ceased and the foot soldiers went into the

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<v Speaker 9>school by the side doors, firing as men and women

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<v Speaker 9>fled in all directions. End quote estimates vary, with conservative

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<v Speaker 9>estimates placing the death toll of over two thousand, while

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<v Speaker 9>Jose Touterres Danton's account reckons as many as three thousand,

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<v Speaker 9>six hundred. In any case, if all three thousand of

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<v Speaker 9>those miners were members of the Grand Man Comunale Delbreras,

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<v Speaker 9>that had mean roughly fifteen percent of the movement was

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<v Speaker 9>laughtered in one massacre, a significant tragedy for show. Following

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<v Speaker 9>the massacre, the movement formed the Feracion Obrera de Chile

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<v Speaker 9>or FOCCH, which aimed to pull together all the organizations

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<v Speaker 9>involved in the struggle, whether anarchists, Marxists or liberals. It

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<v Speaker 9>was co created by the Ones falter in Mancominalys and

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<v Speaker 9>grew in militancy until I had fully adopted anarchistiniclist principles.

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<v Speaker 9>Even the trade unions outside of the FOCCH were anarchist cynicalist,

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<v Speaker 9>but eventually the Synacalists and FOCICH would be overtaken by

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<v Speaker 9>the Marxists following the rise of the Soviet Union and

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<v Speaker 9>the deeper intentions between Anarchists and Marxists. Also in the

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen tens, the famous Chilean poet Pablo and the Ruder

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<v Speaker 9>was Robin Schoulers of the Anarchists, though he eventually became

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<v Speaker 9>a Communist of the Marxist fariety. Meanwhile, the student org

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<v Speaker 9>FCCH established a popular university to link workers and students

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<v Speaker 9>and develop popular education. In nineteen twelve, the Federacion Obrera

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<v Speaker 9>Regionale de Chile FOOR or FOT was formed, while nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen marked the launch of the Chilean IWW, which expanded

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<v Speaker 9>to nineteen cities and a ten thousand strong membership. All

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<v Speaker 9>the while the strikes continued. Nineteen nineteen marked yet another

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<v Speaker 9>general strike. The nitrate minds weren't as profitable as they

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<v Speaker 9>once were, creating more attention as workers were laid off.

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<v Speaker 9>The state was in debt and with domestic disarray, it

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<v Speaker 9>needed a distraction, so it tried to spark yet another

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<v Speaker 9>war with Peru. Thankfully, the war never happened when it

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<v Speaker 9>looked like it would be. It was roundly condemned by

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<v Speaker 9>the FECCH, as they should, but nineteen nineteen was also

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<v Speaker 9>the year that reactionaries broken too the fcch's headquarters and

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<v Speaker 9>burned down the building. While archiss workers were being jailed,

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<v Speaker 9>tortured and murdered all the way into the nineteen twenties. Still,

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<v Speaker 9>by nineteen twenty five, there were two hundred and fourteen

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<v Speaker 9>syndicates in Chile, posting the active participation of more than

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<v Speaker 9>two hundred thousand people, and it was the first year

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<v Speaker 9>where Chilean dedication of the IWW was able to participate

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<v Speaker 9>in an IWA Congress. Santiago had a wrench strike, and

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<v Speaker 9>yet still work of blood was being spilled and tortured,

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<v Speaker 9>and then a coup happened in nineteen twenty five. Carlos

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<v Speaker 9>Ibaniez took power and by nineteen twenty seven sort of

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<v Speaker 9>fully abolished the labor movement. Union offices were raided, anarchist

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<v Speaker 9>groups disbanded, and journals shut down. The labor movement persisted,

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<v Speaker 9>the ideas lived on, but the anarchists were hit particularly hard.

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<v Speaker 9>Next we'll find out what happens in the rest of

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<v Speaker 9>the twentieth century for the anarchist movement in Chile. We're

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<v Speaker 9>back talking about the history of anarchism in Chile. We

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<v Speaker 9>almost gave Das Sayer and arrest of the Sierra Bene.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's see what they get up to for the rest

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<v Speaker 9>of the twentieth century. In nineteen thirty, the indush tree

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<v Speaker 9>that Chile had been relying on for years, the one

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<v Speaker 9>that had caused so much strife for workers across the country,

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<v Speaker 9>had suffered a major blue. German scientists discovered a synthetic

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<v Speaker 9>nitrate there was far cheaper than the natural one. Nitrate

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<v Speaker 9>has used in both foot liizer production ammunitions manufactory. So

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<v Speaker 9>with the cheap alternative to the form found in the ground,

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<v Speaker 9>the meager livelihoods of thousands of workers was now under threat.

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<v Speaker 9>The mine owners may have had to reshuffle their finances

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<v Speaker 9>a bit to recover from the loss of the booming industry,

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<v Speaker 9>but it was the workers who dealt with the worst

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<v Speaker 9>of such a crisis. They faced famine, mass migration, and overcrowding,

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<v Speaker 9>compounded by the existing economic pressures of the worldwide recession.

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<v Speaker 9>The nineteen thirties. Crisis hit the population hard, but they

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<v Speaker 9>kept strikeing regardless. The dictatorship of Colonel Carlos Ibanie's fell

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<v Speaker 9>in nineteen thirty one due to all that popular unrest.

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<v Speaker 9>Then things went from bad to worse. The center of

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<v Speaker 9>workers struggled. The city of Santiago, the headquarters of the

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<v Speaker 9>Ferracion Obrera de Chile or FOCCH, where organizations of all

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<v Speaker 9>flavors had worked together, came under attack in April nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>thirty four. The police and the White Guards, which were

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<v Speaker 9>a group of capitalists funded meadheads, opened fire on the compound,

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<v Speaker 9>killing seven workers and a child, while badly injuring around

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<v Speaker 9>two hundred others. In June of that same year, nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>thirty four, four hundred and seventy seven peasants were slain

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<v Speaker 9>in Alto, Biobio, Rankiel and Lonqui May, all fairly small

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<v Speaker 9>towns in the countryside of Chile. Two years later, in

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<v Speaker 9>December nineteen thirty six, the Ferracion Obrera Regionale de Chile

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<v Speaker 9>or FRCH or FORT and the Chilean IWW worked together

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<v Speaker 9>to form the Conferracion General de Trabajadores or CGT. It

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<v Speaker 9>was their anarchist alternatives, the communist and socialist founded Workers

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<v Speaker 9>Confederation of Chile or CTCH, which they saw as more reformists. Together,

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<v Speaker 9>they fought to achieve the eight hour workday, Sundays off,

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<v Speaker 9>indemnity for accidents at work, monetary recognition for years of service,

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<v Speaker 9>the right to retirement, and the right to an old

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<v Speaker 9>age pension. Meanwhile, the Chilean Anarchist Federation or FACCH got

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<v Speaker 9>active and sent some brigades to support their comrades in

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<v Speaker 9>the Spanish Civil War. During the Civil war period, anarchism

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<v Speaker 9>had another upswing of popularity in Chile, but since the

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<v Speaker 9>reformist Union had legal and institutional back in, since the

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<v Speaker 9>anarchists were being heavily repressed, and since there was some

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<v Speaker 9>disorganization among them, the anarchists had started to lose their popularity.

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<v Speaker 9>Anarchist cyndicalism had declined significantly going into the nineteen forties,

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<v Speaker 9>while reformist cynicalism stayed strong under the control of the socialists,

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<v Speaker 9>Communists and Christian Democrats. In nineteen forty six, eight workers

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<v Speaker 9>were murdered and many more were seriously injured by the

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<v Speaker 9>police dogs at Bulmes Square in Santiago. The persecution of

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<v Speaker 9>workers and particularly anarchist workers continued into nineteen forty seven

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<v Speaker 9>as Pisagua, a notorious and Tuoman camp once used to

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<v Speaker 9>detain key folks from the Carlossi when he has dictatorship,

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<v Speaker 9>was transformed into a concentration camp for socialists, communists, anarchists

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<v Speaker 9>under President Gabrielle Gonzalez Fidela. The notorious Chilean dictator Augusto

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<v Speaker 9>Pinochet had a stint run in the camp in that

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<v Speaker 9>time as well, so, of course, fearing for their lives,

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<v Speaker 9>anarchist organizations had to go underground. Even underground, they were

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<v Speaker 9>able to accomplish some radical work. For example, the Luisa

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<v Speaker 9>Michelle Cultural Center, renamed in the nineteen fifty three to Luisa

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<v Speaker 9>Michelle Libertarian School, which sought to educate female workers and

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<v Speaker 9>later children as well. It had at a time over

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<v Speaker 9>seventy students. He was able to last for a decade

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<v Speaker 9>up until nineteen fifty seven, despite authoritarian repression. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>fifty the anarchist syneclist Ernesto mirandl brought together twelve federations

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<v Speaker 9>and several syndicates into the Movimento Unitario Nacionaletraes or Month

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<v Speaker 9>or Movement for Workers Unity. Prior to the Formation of

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<v Speaker 9>the Month, Miranda got started in the workers movement at

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<v Speaker 9>the age of twenty way back in nineteen thirty two.

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<v Speaker 9>While working in the shoe industry, he fought the local

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<v Speaker 9>Nazis and the police were taking part in various unions

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<v Speaker 9>and unitary committees for in the formation of Month. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>fifty three saw the formation of the Central Unitaria the

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<v Speaker 9>Trebadores or CUT, Chile's United Labor Center. The initial aims

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<v Speaker 9>and principles of CUT were drawn up by members of

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<v Speaker 9>the Confederacio and General de Tabahadores or CGT, and anarchist

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<v Speaker 9>syncalists filled the shoe worker, printer and maritime unions. In

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<v Speaker 9>the CUTS Declaration, the workers proclaimed that the amountcipation of

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<v Speaker 9>the workers is the work of the workers themselves and

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<v Speaker 9>that quote the present capitalist system based on private ownership

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<v Speaker 9>of land, instruments, and means of production, and exploitation of

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<v Speaker 9>man by man, which divides society into antagonistic classes exploited

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<v Speaker 9>and exploiters, must be replaced by a social economic system

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<v Speaker 9>that abolishes private property until a class less society is reached.

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<v Speaker 9>In which man and humanity are assured of their full development.

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<v Speaker 9>The Central Workers Union will carry out a revindicative action

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<v Speaker 9>within the principles and methods of the class struggle, maintaining

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<v Speaker 9>its full independence from all governments and partisan political sectarianism. However,

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<v Speaker 9>the Central Workers Union is not an apolitical union. On

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<v Speaker 9>the contrary, representing the conjunctions of all sector of the

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<v Speaker 9>work in masses, its humanimatory action will be derived above

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<v Speaker 9>the political parties in order to maintain its organic cohesion.

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<v Speaker 9>The trade union struggle is an interiral part of the

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<v Speaker 9>general class movement, the proletaria and the exploited masses, and

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<v Speaker 9>as such a connoty must not remain neutral in the

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<v Speaker 9>social struggle and must assume its proper leadership rule. Consequently,

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<v Speaker 9>it declares that all trade unions organizations for the defense

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<v Speaker 9>of the interests and goals the workers within the capitalist system,

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<v Speaker 9>but at the same time the organizations of class struggle

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<v Speaker 9>that points to the economic emouncipation of the workers as

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<v Speaker 9>their goal, that is, the socialist transformation of society, the

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<v Speaker 9>abolition of classes and the organization of human life to

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<v Speaker 9>the abolition of the oppressive state. Endcode. The cut tried

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<v Speaker 9>and failed to call a general strike in nineteen fifty five,

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<v Speaker 9>partially because, unbeknownst to them, the communist and socialist groups

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<v Speaker 9>within the CUT had reached their own agreement with the government.

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<v Speaker 9>By nineteen fifty seven, the CUT were severely split. The

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<v Speaker 9>Anacho Synicalists abandoned it in protest of its involvement in

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<v Speaker 9>an electoral pact with the FRAP the Friende Amplio Popular,

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<v Speaker 9>a left wing party during the lead up to the

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<v Speaker 9>presidential election in nineteen fifty eight. The anarchist Synicalists rightfully

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<v Speaker 9>believed that the CUT getting involved with the political party

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<v Speaker 9>would compromise working class independence. However, that act of protest

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<v Speaker 9>would also diminish the influence of the anarchists and the

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<v Speaker 9>union movement. Nineteen fifty seven also marked the rise of

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<v Speaker 9>Elmo Vimiento Libertario, Theie de de Julio or the Seventh

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<v Speaker 9>of July libertarian movement, the Bratiada. The anarchists, Centrade unionists

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<v Speaker 9>from Osorno, Temuco, Concepcion, Dinares and Talca were dispersed after

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<v Speaker 9>leaving the CUT. It unfortunately dissolved a decade later as

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<v Speaker 9>his participants got involved in other organizations. Ernesto Miranda, one

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<v Speaker 9>of the co creators of Month, went on to create

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<v Speaker 9>Committee the Defenser the Revolution Cubana, although by nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 9>the Anarchist Federation FAH was already warning of the Cuban

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<v Speaker 9>Revolution's involvement with Russia. Miranda later went on to form

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<v Speaker 9>the MIR the Movemento de Squierreta Revolutionaria the revolutionary left

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<v Speaker 9>wing movement, in nineteen sixty five, alongside anarchist synclist Cultario

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<v Speaker 9>Blest and Trotzkis Enriqueesepulveda. Cultario Blest had previously visited Cuba,

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<v Speaker 9>which had impressed upon him the need for insurrectionary action.

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<v Speaker 9>Upon his return to Chile, Blest formed the Third of

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<v Speaker 9>November Movement M three END to promote revolution and unite

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<v Speaker 9>the revolutionary life left against electoralism. Before the MIR was founded,

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<v Speaker 9>there was the MFR, the Movement of Revenue Starying Forces

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<v Speaker 9>in nineteen sixty one, which brought together non line anarchists, trusteists, maoists,

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<v Speaker 9>socialists and communists in the trade union work. With the

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<v Speaker 9>growing involvement of communist parties that eventually took over the

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<v Speaker 9>anarchists were eventually sideline in the MR, and it was

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<v Speaker 9>quickly known as a fully mL org. The MIR persists

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<v Speaker 9>to this day. Another organization was also founded in this time,

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<v Speaker 9>the VP of Van Guardia Organizata del Pueblo, which rejected

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<v Speaker 9>the authoritarianism of the MIR with an ideological blend of

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<v Speaker 9>anarchism and anti authoritarian Marxism. Both MIR and vop were

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<v Speaker 9>doing their thing and would play struggles and getting their

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<v Speaker 9>finance in through bank robberies, but this wouldn't last and

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<v Speaker 9>both groups should also faced repression and reaction from the authorities.

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<v Speaker 9>Then came nineteen seventy with the election of Popular Unity

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<v Speaker 9>candidate of Salvador Allende to the presidency. Allende was considered

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<v Speaker 9>a democratic socialist, the first Marxist democratically elected in Latin America.

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<v Speaker 9>Allenda declared an amnesty for all political prisoners and even

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<v Speaker 9>to con members of VOPI as part of his personal

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<v Speaker 9>guard or Crupo de Amigo's personalities gap. By nineteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 9>they already warned the president that the right was plotting

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<v Speaker 9>to overthrow the government, but the president didn't take them on,

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<v Speaker 9>so they took matters into their own hands and executed

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<v Speaker 9>one of the key plotters in the coup plans for

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<v Speaker 9>that they were punished. In nineteen seventy two, workers began

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<v Speaker 9>to take over their workplaces as the US had imposed

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<v Speaker 9>a trade and credit embargo in retaliation for the nationalization

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<v Speaker 9>of US ow and copper minds. Neighborhood committees took goods

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<v Speaker 9>from the work of control factories and distributed them amongst

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<v Speaker 9>the communities. The FDR or friend Dated Trabahadori's revolution Scenarios

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<v Speaker 9>or Revolutionary Workers Front, played a major role in this process.

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<v Speaker 9>Proven that workers were quite capable of running a factory

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<v Speaker 9>by themselves, and their government and bosses were no longer necessary.

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<v Speaker 9>But for all his alleged socialist credits, Allende couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 9>this was possible, so he sent observers to give orders

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<v Speaker 9>within the affected factories. Meanwhile, peasants were taken over land

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<v Speaker 9>and organizing through the MCR or Moving Miento de Campesinos

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<v Speaker 9>serv Scenarios or Revolutionary Peasants Movement. The government was feeling

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<v Speaker 9>the pressure applied from without and within. By nineteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 9>Henry Kissinger and the other demons of the US did

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<v Speaker 9>a test run coup, but the people barricaded the neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 9>and factories from the police and army. Being the first

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<v Speaker 9>elected president of Latin Miracle, Allende was patient zero for

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<v Speaker 9>a pattern of interventions that would plague the region for

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<v Speaker 9>years to come. After the three years of presidency and

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<v Speaker 9>a second coup attempt, a Costo Pinochet took power in

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<v Speaker 9>a US backed coup in nineteen seventy three. A few

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<v Speaker 9>months after the first cop attempt, tanks rolled on the

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<v Speaker 9>streets of Santiago. Thousands were tortured, raped and murdered. Anarchists

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<v Speaker 9>were disappeared. Those that escaped death found themselves in concentration camps,

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<v Speaker 9>many of which were ironically established on the remains of

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<v Speaker 9>the old Nitride Mind villages. All political parties and trade

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<v Speaker 9>unions were banned. Some courses at universities were closed down,

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<v Speaker 9>denounced as the home of revolutionary sentiment. The secret police

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<v Speaker 9>direction intell Hinteria National called folks in Fair. The executive

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<v Speaker 9>would be thrown into the sea and Pinochet would go

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<v Speaker 9>on to rule for nearly seventeen years. In nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 9>anarchists Cultario Blessed and Ernesto Miranda would activate a Committee

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<v Speaker 9>of Defense of Human Rights, the Code which would become

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<v Speaker 9>of vital importance for those persecuted by the dictatorship. They

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<v Speaker 9>would record the rights violations and rescue and help escape

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<v Speaker 9>those being persecuted. In nineteen seventy seven and seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 9>the Kodas managed to organize the first event during the

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<v Speaker 9>dictatorship to commemorate International Worker's Day, which helped to disrupt

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<v Speaker 9>the fair people had of the dictatorship. Six years after

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<v Speaker 9>the coups, heading into the eighties, despite the oppression, the

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<v Speaker 9>anarchists were starting to reorganize. Alongside libertarian leading members of

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<v Speaker 9>the former Popular Unity Coalition. They created the Umbrella group

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<v Speaker 9>Socialist Ideas and Action PAS and took part in the

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<v Speaker 9>struggles against the dictatorship in the eighties. In nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 9>syndicates affiliated with Norway's IWA was able to secure the

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<v Speaker 9>freedom of europe members who had been in prisoned for

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<v Speaker 9>nearly a decade, exchanging the m prison one for exile,

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<v Speaker 9>while the Marxist mir managed to assas Saint the chief

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<v Speaker 9>of Army intelligence from her Reverergara Campos and a few

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<v Speaker 9>other significant military figures, as well as bombing US affiliated corporations.

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<v Speaker 9>In nineteen eighty two, textile workers went on strike despite

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<v Speaker 9>the risk of oppression, and they were joined by a

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<v Speaker 9>solidarity strike by nineteen eighty three, when children and teachers

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<v Speaker 9>wouldn't attend school, people wouldn't buy anything, and workers would

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<v Speaker 9>stay home. The police tried to disrupt the marches of

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<v Speaker 9>the people. Two were killed as a result and one

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<v Speaker 9>hundreds were arrested or wounded. But between nineteen eighty three

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<v Speaker 9>and nineteen eighty four, mass protests became more frequent and

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<v Speaker 9>the people defended themselves against the police with molotovs, stones

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<v Speaker 9>and barricades. While anarchists were involved in these struggles, anarchists

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<v Speaker 9>ideas went to focus. The focus was on top leand

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<v Speaker 9>the dictator. However, by nineteen eighty four you had a

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<v Speaker 9>libertarian magazine called Lavois, the latter he is most circulating.

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<v Speaker 9>In nineteen eighty seven, the anarchist black flags reappeared in Santiago.

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<v Speaker 9>Concepcion and social centers were also established with an anarchist streak,

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<v Speaker 9>such as a Center for Social Studies Elduende the ELF

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<v Speaker 9>and Santiago and the Collectiva Anarquista Libracion cal Conceptcion, both

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<v Speaker 9>under the umbrella of the Taira. The Analyst in NiCl

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<v Speaker 9>Social the Studio for Social Studies and Analysis, which was

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<v Speaker 9>created with the aim of Brighton and Space for the oppressed.

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<v Speaker 9>A newspaper called Akrata Anarchist was published by Collectivo Anarchista Conceptcion,

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<v Speaker 9>and the Bulletin Liberacion by the cal Accion Director was

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<v Speaker 9>published by Anarchist Comrades in Santiago. For nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 9>Pinochet had to accept defeat and stepped down. By nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 9>liberal democracy had returned somewhat to Chile. In the nineties,

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<v Speaker 9>several anarchist groups formed, disappeared, and regrouped, and several anarchists

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<v Speaker 9>publications were printed and spread. The ID the Anarchist inter Cities,

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<v Speaker 9>Federation Veracio and Alarquista Interciodana, the cham Or Jubetures and

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<v Speaker 9>Time Militaristas the Mallow, the Movement Too Anarchistas, Luis Cole,

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<v Speaker 9>the FAI Conceptcion, Collectivo Cultural Libertario, Bnartesta, Conceptsion, Read Anarchista,

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<v Speaker 9>and various other groups in Viallemana, Osorno, Tinuco, Concepcion, Paparaiso Santiago,

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<v Speaker 9>et cetera. Jose Antoniogo terrest Anton, the author of one

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<v Speaker 9>of the historical accounts I referenced took part in several

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<v Speaker 9>of these orcs as well as their own collective Arboronegro

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<v Speaker 9>returned to delegations the IWA Congress in Spain in December

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<v Speaker 9>of nineteen ninety four and took over the work of

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<v Speaker 9>the IWW in Chile. As of the twenty first century,

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<v Speaker 9>several collectives and individuals are disseminated in anarchist ideas and practices.

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<v Speaker 9>Anarchist book fairs have been hosted in Santiago, and the

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<v Speaker 9>Anarchist Federation Santiago has been working in organizing an anarchist platform.

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<v Speaker 9>Anarchists inspired or adjacent movements have lit the streets against

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<v Speaker 9>the government, protest formations, review central authorities, and indigenous Mapuche

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<v Speaker 9>activists carry on their deco nil struggle against the state

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<v Speaker 9>by various means, sometimes bordering on an arcchic and the

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<v Speaker 9>mapuch struggle in Chile, by the way, is a fascinating

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<v Speaker 9>story that really deserves its own episodes, which I hope

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<v Speaker 9>to explore in the future. Anarchist activists have also continued

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<v Speaker 9>to be killed by the police or other reactionaries following

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<v Speaker 9>the return of democracy, such as Claudia Lopez ben Aches

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<v Speaker 9>in nineteen ninety eight and Honey Carrikeo Yanez and Juan

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<v Speaker 9>Cruz Magna in two thousand and eight. Chilean anarchists have

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<v Speaker 9>also allegedly been set in bombs around the country meant

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<v Speaker 9>to cause damage to law enforcement, security forces, banks, and

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<v Speaker 9>transnational corporations property, but also caused an occasional injury or

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<v Speaker 9>death to people. Cambone also writes the mutual aid societies

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<v Speaker 9>still function and in a society where the welfare state

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<v Speaker 9>is practically non existent, mutual aid plays a much greater

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<v Speaker 9>role than elsewhere. Cooperatives both agricultural and consumer are found

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<v Speaker 9>in Chile, although you don't have the same level of

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<v Speaker 9>economic influence that similar movements have in Western Europe or Canada.

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<v Speaker 9>And there are other libertarian oriented developments as well. Between

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<v Speaker 9>Christians and ex Marxistanists who rejected the Van Guard Party

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<v Speaker 9>formed local based committees working in progracis. They function as

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<v Speaker 9>mutual aid societies and centers to organize local issues. I

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<v Speaker 9>hope that the people of Chile, like everywhere else, can

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<v Speaker 9>find true freedom after overst century of anarchist struggle. I

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<v Speaker 9>hope they can find revolutionary success. Until that day, this

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<v Speaker 9>has been andrew sage of Andrewism. It could happen here

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<v Speaker 9>given the historical context of anarchism in Chile. Where am

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<v Speaker 9>I to go next? Hopefully far? All power to all

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<v Speaker 9>the people of peace?

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<v Speaker 11>Hi, Hi, everyone to it could happen here. It's me

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<v Speaker 11>James today and I'm joined by Sharen and also Almato,

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<v Speaker 11>who was a volunteer. Was father a non violent protective

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<v Speaker 11>presence volunteer in Palestine.

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<v Speaker 8>How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Yeah, thanks so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, we appreciate it. So we met through a

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<v Speaker 11>mutual friend who is also a volunteer with you. And

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<v Speaker 11>the reason that that frame contacted me was that unfortunately

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<v Speaker 11>the IDF shot you. And that's obviously a pretty shitty situation.

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<v Speaker 11>And would you be okay with just beginning by recounting

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<v Speaker 11>the incident. I don't know if that's something you're okay

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<v Speaker 11>going back to, just because I think the fucking wantonness

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<v Speaker 11>of the violence is so stark that I think it

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<v Speaker 11>might help people to hear it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>So I volunteered with FAZA and we go to a

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<v Speaker 13>demonstration in Beta every Friday. The aim is to go

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<v Speaker 13>back to their land was stolen from them. I think

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<v Speaker 13>there's a settlement called Avatar Avtar on the Palestinian land

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<v Speaker 13>and their aim is just to go back to it

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<v Speaker 13>and plant the Palatini your flag. So we get there

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<v Speaker 13>and they're doing Juma prayer and then after Duma prayer

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<v Speaker 13>is when they start chanting, so like not even it

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<v Speaker 13>was like between five to ten minutes when they started

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<v Speaker 13>shooting tear gas at us. You're in the prey after

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<v Speaker 13>the prayer, after the prayer, yeah, So the prayer went

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<v Speaker 13>without an incident, and then afterwards was when they shot

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<v Speaker 13>tear gas at us, multiple tear gas canisters, and then

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<v Speaker 13>once they started firing live rounds. We hid behind a

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<v Speaker 13>concrete wall. Tear gas still being shot at us, and

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<v Speaker 13>then live rounds as well. You could see the dust

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<v Speaker 13>coming off of the concrete walls as they shot. And

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<v Speaker 13>then once it seemed like they were coming down from

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<v Speaker 13>the tower, I think Palestines were running because they thought

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<v Speaker 13>they were coming, so we ran and we went over

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<v Speaker 13>a concrete wall. We ran for I don't even know

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<v Speaker 13>how long, but once we got to a clearing and

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<v Speaker 13>they thought it was safe, we regrouped with everyone. So

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<v Speaker 13>the road going up to where we were there were

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<v Speaker 13>Palestinians still running down. There's palestinian is running to the right,

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<v Speaker 13>and we just waited maybe thirty seconds, and then someone

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<v Speaker 13>told us to go, so we ran with them, and

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<v Speaker 13>then we got to rest for like five minutes, had

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<v Speaker 13>a quick smoke coffee, some people had teeth. But then

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<v Speaker 13>some Palestines were moving towards the street to our right,

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<v Speaker 13>so we followed them, a couple of us and some

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<v Speaker 13>of them stayed. And as we were approaching there, this

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<v Speaker 13>was the road that went straight up to the watchtower.

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<v Speaker 13>We saw them on before, so there was still some

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<v Speaker 13>tear guys shot at us and some live rounds as well,

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<v Speaker 13>but we saw them actually coming down from the tower

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<v Speaker 13>this time, and before you know they even drove down,

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<v Speaker 13>there was Palestines to our left that were running. So

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<v Speaker 13>whenever we see them running, we know that it's a

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<v Speaker 13>threat they think may be fatal, so we're running. We

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<v Speaker 13>actually could run to the Alli grows behind us. And

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<v Speaker 13>as we were running, just making sure all my comrades

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<v Speaker 13>were good, I hear a loud bang and then I

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<v Speaker 13>feel a pain in my leg. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 13>like a tear gas canister that hit my leg because

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<v Speaker 13>it just felt like a blunt force, but I've never

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<v Speaker 13>felt that pain before, and one of my comrades were

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<v Speaker 13>helping me up while I was still running and limping.

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<v Speaker 13>And then finally once we got to a clearing, that's

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<v Speaker 13>when all the palestins ran to me and carried me

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<v Speaker 13>away to the pickup truck, which then went to the

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<v Speaker 13>health clinic or the emergency clinic in Beta.

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<v Speaker 12>After that, the army.

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<v Speaker 13>Trucks blocked our away while I was in the ambulance

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<v Speaker 13>when I was transferred, and then there's two checkpoints afterwards,

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<v Speaker 13>and the two checkpoints they demanded to see who was inside,

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<v Speaker 13>which delayed my care further. And then finally getting to

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<v Speaker 13>Rafitia Hospital, Jesus swept fucking hell.

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<v Speaker 10>Classic of them to block the ambulance for so many times.

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<v Speaker 11>It's yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm really glad that it

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<v Speaker 11>wasn't like an arteriobled or something when that time would

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<v Speaker 11>have been a life and death.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, those minutes, right, it's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>I was smiling because I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 13>what just happened to me, but I'm hope, I hope

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<v Speaker 13>I'm okay, And also I know I'm here for Palestine,

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<v Speaker 13>so you know, yeah, I kept smiling, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 13>know what was happening. And thankfully it was no artery

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<v Speaker 13>or bone, so I was very late.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and do you know what right for your show with?

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<v Speaker 11>Because I know they sometimes used like smaller calibers for

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<v Speaker 11>crowd control.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>From what I heard was sixteen American name.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, they're just really game for it. Un believable.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm glad you're okay.

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<v Speaker 11>I like, just we spoke about this before, but just

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<v Speaker 11>so listeners, like, you're healing up, you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 11>on the path to at least physical recovery.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, absolutely, Like, uh, So I got shot and one

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<v Speaker 13>week later I went from wheelchair, the crutches, the cane.

1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:24.719
<v Speaker 13>I'm still in the cane, but I can move around

1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:28.640
<v Speaker 13>pretty well like indoors. Like when I'm outside. I have

1:26:28.680 --> 1:26:31.559
<v Speaker 13>to use the cane because my leg buckles and the

1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:34.920
<v Speaker 13>hole in the front bagsit wound is still healing. It's

1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:37.639
<v Speaker 13>not fully closed yet, but a lot better.

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<v Speaker 10>Did the bullet go straight through?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I went straight through, no fragments. I believe they

1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:46.000
<v Speaker 13>had to do surgery to stitch me up, but also

1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:49.120
<v Speaker 13>to take the dead tissue out and I think they

1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:50.840
<v Speaker 13>had to put together some muscles as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 11>So, like I want to talk about a couple of

1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:59.200
<v Speaker 11>things regarding this. First of all, I think like a

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<v Speaker 11>uusit in Yeah. Yeah, so like a foreign military shot

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<v Speaker 11>at US citizen right as you're a no senator representative.

1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:11.559
<v Speaker 11>Any of these people who are supposed to give a

1:27:11.560 --> 1:27:13.519
<v Speaker 11>single fuck about this like reached out to you.

1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:16.919
<v Speaker 12>Now, so it was just the embassy.

1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:20.240
<v Speaker 13>The embassy didn't contact us, maybe the same day I

1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.560
<v Speaker 13>was shot just a little bit later, but no representatives

1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:25.400
<v Speaker 13>here in the United States have reached out to me.

1:27:25.760 --> 1:27:28.760
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's pretty reprehensible. Yeah, do you want to give

1:27:28.760 --> 1:27:31.080
<v Speaker 11>people a representive? Who those might be? I don't want

1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:32.960
<v Speaker 11>to like dox you and where you live, but.

1:27:32.920 --> 1:27:33.840
<v Speaker 12>I'm in Jersey City.

1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:38.000
<v Speaker 13>There is a vacancy actually for one of the representatives,

1:27:38.040 --> 1:27:41.920
<v Speaker 13>so that is one reason why. But the other ones, yeah,

1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:46.080
<v Speaker 13>Jersey senators, local politicians, nobody has reached out.

1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:47.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, nobody's reached out.

1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:51.240
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And I think, like we said this again before,

1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:53.160
<v Speaker 11>but like it's not that your leg is more important

1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:56.600
<v Speaker 11>than someone's child's life in Gaza, right, Like that's I

1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:59.120
<v Speaker 11>don't want to imply that for a second, but like, yeah,

1:27:59.240 --> 1:28:01.240
<v Speaker 11>you know, the assist of states as it is today

1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:03.320
<v Speaker 11>works in a certain way, and in theory, those people

1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:06.360
<v Speaker 11>should care about you. And like, I think it really

1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:09.360
<v Speaker 11>gets us to something else I wanted to talk about,

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:14.040
<v Speaker 11>which is that like the existence of Palestine, like as

1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.080
<v Speaker 11>as it is today and as it wishes to be

1:28:17.160 --> 1:28:21.080
<v Speaker 11>in the future, much like you know other places I've

1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:25.640
<v Speaker 11>worked in Kurdistan, in the liberated parts of Myanmar, is

1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:28.479
<v Speaker 11>a threat to the system of states and governments as

1:28:28.520 --> 1:28:33.600
<v Speaker 11>it exists today. And like, at some point you decided

1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.840
<v Speaker 11>that the government and right into your senator or whatever

1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:42.360
<v Speaker 11>tweeting people do wasn't enough or wasn't going to work,

1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:45.120
<v Speaker 11>and you decided that, like you wanted to put your

1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:47.160
<v Speaker 11>body in between the people trying to kill the people

1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:49.360
<v Speaker 11>and then people trying to survive. So can you talk

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<v Speaker 11>us through that journey? Like have you always been invested

1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:54.160
<v Speaker 11>in in the Palestinian cause?

1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:56.400
<v Speaker 8>Is it something that you became aware of at some point?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>So I'm part of the Philippine Movement on a Bayon

1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:05.800
<v Speaker 13>part of Bayon and the National Democratic Movement in the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 13>So through them I was in contact and collaboration with Palestinians,

1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:16.080
<v Speaker 13>and that's when I started to understand Palestinian struggle. And

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<v Speaker 13>actually I was at the protest in New York recently,

1:29:18.960 --> 1:29:24.880
<v Speaker 13>and it came full circle because Nerdane within our lifetime,

1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:29.320
<v Speaker 13>stated that she actually started it because of the National

1:29:29.320 --> 1:29:34.400
<v Speaker 13>Democratic Movement and our work together and our studies. So

1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:38.920
<v Speaker 13>because I also saw Palestinian standing for the liberation of

1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:42.040
<v Speaker 13>the Philippines, we always had that connection or I had

1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:45.880
<v Speaker 13>that connection with Palestinians, and it grew over time, and

1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:53.080
<v Speaker 13>the escalation of October seventh really had me just disregulated

1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:58.200
<v Speaker 13>because I'm a teacher in Jersey and for the first

1:29:58.240 --> 1:30:00.680
<v Speaker 13>few months it was so hard for me to It

1:30:00.720 --> 1:30:03.400
<v Speaker 13>was like I was just going on autopilot because how

1:30:03.439 --> 1:30:07.599
<v Speaker 13>could we, you know, just go on with our daily

1:30:07.640 --> 1:30:10.280
<v Speaker 13>lives seeing this these atrocities happening every day.

1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:14.760
<v Speaker 12>And once it was the end of the year, it

1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:15.200
<v Speaker 12>was hot.

1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:18.439
<v Speaker 13>A smoking cigarette, I put my CAFA on the gate

1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:21.400
<v Speaker 13>outside of our school and then I came out because

1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:23.120
<v Speaker 13>I had to bring the snacks in for my students

1:30:23.120 --> 1:30:25.240
<v Speaker 13>for the last week of school and it was gone,

1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:28.400
<v Speaker 13>so I had to buy another one, and when I did,

1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:32.520
<v Speaker 13>it came with a really beautiful handwritten postcard from Palestine

1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:35.920
<v Speaker 13>and it was just talking about thank you for supporting

1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:39.360
<v Speaker 13>us through these difficult times. And then it's had invitation

1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:42.360
<v Speaker 13>to visit. So that was what prompted me to like

1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:45.760
<v Speaker 13>research and ask other friends in the movement, and then

1:30:45.800 --> 1:30:48.519
<v Speaker 13>they told me about FASA, and then I took the

1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:52.960
<v Speaker 13>orientation and training and I went over during my summer break.

1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:56.960
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, great, to ease your summer, We'll just stop for

1:30:57.160 --> 1:31:00.320
<v Speaker 11>some advertisements here and then come back.

1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:10.479
<v Speaker 8>We are back.

1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:13.519
<v Speaker 11>Unfortunately you've had toism to some advert so hopefully you've

1:31:13.520 --> 1:31:18.840
<v Speaker 11>skipped them. So I wanted to ask about like that journey,

1:31:19.320 --> 1:31:21.920
<v Speaker 11>the journey to Palestine. Now, I imagine it's very difficult,

1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:24.400
<v Speaker 11>and like how did it feel. I guess like this

1:31:24.439 --> 1:31:26.840
<v Speaker 11>is a cause you've been invested in for some time, right,

1:31:26.880 --> 1:31:29.559
<v Speaker 11>and then you've seen these horrific things, and then suddenly

1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:32.320
<v Speaker 11>you're on the ground, like was to be in solidarity

1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:35.240
<v Speaker 11>with people like I know my experience at the border

1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:38.200
<v Speaker 11>has been that, Like, I would much rather be like

1:31:38.439 --> 1:31:41.599
<v Speaker 11>in it, even if it's terrible, than at home seeing

1:31:41.640 --> 1:31:42.280
<v Speaker 11>pictures of it.

1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:43.880
<v Speaker 8>I wonder how it was for you.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, for me, I've always just wanted to visit Palestine,

1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.120
<v Speaker 13>and I want to be in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:54.240
<v Speaker 13>As a Filipino American, I've seen Palestine's there the support

1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:57.559
<v Speaker 13>of Filipinos. I've been there in the streets with them,

1:31:57.680 --> 1:32:00.920
<v Speaker 13>you know, when they supported Americans, the black Americans, you know,

1:32:01.000 --> 1:32:05.200
<v Speaker 13>against police brutality. So it just felt like a duty

1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:10.360
<v Speaker 13>as an organizer, as a revolutionary to you know, show

1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:14.160
<v Speaker 13>the same solidarity back, as well as knowing that I'll

1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:17.720
<v Speaker 13>be in a beautiful place with beautiful people under horrible circumstances.

1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:21.479
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I wish more people.

1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:24.520
<v Speaker 11>And it's not just Palestine, right, we have these revolutions

1:32:24.520 --> 1:32:26.400
<v Speaker 11>that we talk about in these causes that we talk about,

1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:29.040
<v Speaker 11>like and I understand it's not always easy. People have

1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:32.960
<v Speaker 11>commitments financial and interpersonal, and but like, if you can go,

1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:33.519
<v Speaker 11>you should go.

1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:34.360
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1:32:34.680 --> 1:32:38.599
<v Speaker 11>Do you feel like your solidarity grew because you experienced

1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.600
<v Speaker 11>solidarity in return? Right, like somebody ran towards gunfire to

1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:43.680
<v Speaker 11>pick you up at some point? Do you feel like

1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:47.040
<v Speaker 11>a more profound sense of solidarity after that experience, having

1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:49.320
<v Speaker 11>also experienced like setle colonial violence.

1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:50.720
<v Speaker 12>I guess absolutely.

1:32:50.840 --> 1:32:54.600
<v Speaker 13>It's like you know, before I'm talking about it, we

1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:57.760
<v Speaker 13>talk about in circles, and I did have the privilege

1:32:58.200 --> 1:32:59.720
<v Speaker 13>to be able to go. You know, you're not a

1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:05.360
<v Speaker 13>lot of people have the financial ability, mental ability, physical capabilities.

1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:09.799
<v Speaker 13>So I'm lucky on that end as well. But if

1:33:10.080 --> 1:33:13.960
<v Speaker 13>one is willing and able in all those different aspects,

1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:17.280
<v Speaker 13>they should go if they can, especially during all of

1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:21.000
<v Speaker 13>the harvest right now, which is an escalation of settler

1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:25.400
<v Speaker 13>violence that we've seen recently, and even the Israeli army.

1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:26.799
<v Speaker 12>So I get updates from.

1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:30.479
<v Speaker 13>Kuspa right now and I just see everything that's happening still,

1:33:30.760 --> 1:33:33.240
<v Speaker 13>and I know all of harvest is a huge economic

1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:37.559
<v Speaker 13>thing for the Palestinians. So yeah, it'd be great for

1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:39.080
<v Speaker 13>anyone that's able to go.

1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:43.400
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, leading up to you getting shot and maybe after,

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<v Speaker 10>can you describe maybe what the environment was like like

1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:51.120
<v Speaker 10>on the ground, how people were living your experiences with

1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:53.080
<v Speaker 10>the idea of me before that, Like, can you just

1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:55.599
<v Speaker 10>walk us through what that was like on the ground.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>So my first day there, I was in and we

1:34:01.920 --> 1:34:05.639
<v Speaker 13>were just getting the money that we need. We got

1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:08.240
<v Speaker 13>some groceries I believe I had. I only had like

1:34:08.240 --> 1:34:11.559
<v Speaker 13>two pairs of clothes I packed leg and then we

1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:16.080
<v Speaker 13>had dinner with the Palestinia. Family, very beautiful collective dinner

1:34:17.080 --> 1:34:20.880
<v Speaker 13>and when you have lunch or dinner there, you know,

1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:23.960
<v Speaker 13>it's not like a quick thirty minutes and you're gone.

1:34:24.160 --> 1:34:27.720
<v Speaker 13>You're there for like three hours. Even if we have

1:34:27.840 --> 1:34:31.880
<v Speaker 13>different language barriers. It's just very beautiful culture and people.

1:34:32.520 --> 1:34:34.040
<v Speaker 13>And then I get shot the second day.

1:34:34.120 --> 1:34:40.320
<v Speaker 14>The second day good, yeah, yeah, so second full day,

1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:43.519
<v Speaker 14>and so I think I was the first person shot

1:34:43.560 --> 1:34:44.719
<v Speaker 14>at a demonstration there.

1:34:45.360 --> 1:34:49.639
<v Speaker 13>So people were ready for I guess the usual tear

1:34:49.680 --> 1:34:51.960
<v Speaker 13>gas and live rounds, but I don't think anyone is

1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:56.760
<v Speaker 13>expecting anyone to get shot that day, including me. But yeah,

1:34:56.800 --> 1:35:00.720
<v Speaker 13>so I was healing in the hospital, I heard the

1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:05.320
<v Speaker 13>Israeli army came into Kusra, and you know, we had

1:35:05.439 --> 1:35:07.920
<v Speaker 13>the amount of people we had on the ground, and

1:35:07.960 --> 1:35:09.960
<v Speaker 13>one person had to kind of stay around me. So

1:35:10.000 --> 1:35:13.320
<v Speaker 13>I was scared and feared for my people over there.

1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:17.120
<v Speaker 13>And then another day goes by, the next day after that,

1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:21.880
<v Speaker 13>I'm back in town, and then there was reports of

1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:26.040
<v Speaker 13>a seller that was killed, and then we heard that

1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:29.679
<v Speaker 13>all the settlements there was a call to attack Cusra.

1:35:30.160 --> 1:35:32.799
<v Speaker 13>So right when I get back, we're already on Hylert.

1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:36.880
<v Speaker 13>We're watching making sure nothing was happening. Thankfully, nothing did

1:35:36.880 --> 1:35:41.160
<v Speaker 13>to happen that day, but then, yeah, it happens like

1:35:41.200 --> 1:35:44.639
<v Speaker 13>every other day where either the Israeli army comes in

1:35:44.920 --> 1:35:49.280
<v Speaker 13>or settler's attack in Kusra. We also try to open

1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:52.439
<v Speaker 13>the gate between the town, because the Israeli Army put

1:35:52.479 --> 1:35:55.200
<v Speaker 13>a gate between the town so people can't travel with

1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:59.479
<v Speaker 13>you know, within the town, and we tried opening it,

1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:03.639
<v Speaker 13>but they have the key, and a peaceful demonstration turned

1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:07.879
<v Speaker 13>into the IDF or the IOF coming with like twelve

1:36:08.120 --> 1:36:14.960
<v Speaker 13>soldiers intimidating folks, loading up some kind of automatic weapon

1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:20.240
<v Speaker 13>pointing tear gas. At a few days after that, they

1:36:20.280 --> 1:36:25.280
<v Speaker 13>came into town at night shot up the town. A

1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:31.000
<v Speaker 13>few days after that, Israeli army was guarding settlers really

1:36:31.080 --> 1:36:33.200
<v Speaker 13>close to town, were actually in town.

1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:35.599
<v Speaker 12>And then a couple.

1:36:35.400 --> 1:36:37.439
<v Speaker 13>Of days after that too, I think one of the

1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:41.280
<v Speaker 13>last days I was there, they raided the town. They

1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:46.879
<v Speaker 13>shot like twelve tear gas canisters like two to three,

1:36:46.920 --> 1:36:50.800
<v Speaker 13>like flash bangs, and then like three live rounds and

1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:54.639
<v Speaker 13>they shot a boy in the back. Thankfully he's also okay.

1:36:55.240 --> 1:37:00.280
<v Speaker 13>And then after I left, settlers attacked international volunteers, US

1:37:00.320 --> 1:37:05.400
<v Speaker 13>citizens as well with rocks and Dioeft shot like five

1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:06.559
<v Speaker 13>other Palestinians as well.

1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:09.639
<v Speaker 12>So it's just continual violence. You know. What I faced

1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:12.320
<v Speaker 12>that one day is what they face every day.

1:37:13.000 --> 1:37:15.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like they go and get to

1:37:15.160 --> 1:37:19.640
<v Speaker 11>go home like it it's at home. Can you explain

1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:22.479
<v Speaker 11>for people who aren't familiar, right? I think a lot

1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:25.519
<v Speaker 11>of people have come into solidarity with Palestine in the

1:37:25.600 --> 1:37:29.680
<v Speaker 11>last eleven months, which is fine. You don't have to

1:37:29.760 --> 1:37:32.400
<v Speaker 11>know like textbooks of history to be like genocide is bad.

1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:33.080
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1:37:33.880 --> 1:37:36.400
<v Speaker 11>So, like you're in the West Bank, right, can you

1:37:36.439 --> 1:37:40.240
<v Speaker 11>explain where that lies in relation to Gaza and what

1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:44.640
<v Speaker 11>is happening in the West Bank, especially right now in

1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:48.479
<v Speaker 11>the last few days and weeks. That is extremely concerning

1:37:48.520 --> 1:37:50.120
<v Speaker 11>and I don't know how to fred it like terrible.

1:37:50.720 --> 1:37:51.000
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

1:37:51.040 --> 1:37:55.960
<v Speaker 13>So the decimation of Gaza on Israel's end is a

1:37:56.000 --> 1:38:00.280
<v Speaker 13>response to October seventh escalation, even though October seventh was

1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:06.960
<v Speaker 13>a response to, however, many decades of oppression that they've faced.

1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:12.639
<v Speaker 13>So Gaza is being decimated, but Israel wants more land,

1:38:13.040 --> 1:38:17.040
<v Speaker 13>the greater Israel that they've been advertising. Settlers want to

1:38:17.080 --> 1:38:20.439
<v Speaker 13>move into Gaza. Settlers want to continue to move into

1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:25.960
<v Speaker 13>West Bank, the West Bank. Also from reports, Israel gave

1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:30.000
<v Speaker 13>authority or something of being able to get more land,

1:38:30.080 --> 1:38:33.120
<v Speaker 13>which is Palestinian land. So what kind of authority do

1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:36.360
<v Speaker 13>they have over that all the legal settlements, But they're

1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:39.080
<v Speaker 13>trying to just take all the land that they can get,

1:38:39.439 --> 1:38:41.880
<v Speaker 13>whether it's in Gaza, whether it's in West Bank. So

1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:47.160
<v Speaker 13>they're obviously connected because it is Palestine. But now they're

1:38:47.200 --> 1:38:50.680
<v Speaker 13>just going into the West Bank because there's further resistance

1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:54.000
<v Speaker 13>now as well, and there has always been just a

1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:58.400
<v Speaker 13>lot more quiet than Gaza at the moment because I

1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:01.799
<v Speaker 13>guess of the government that's over them in Palestinian authority.

1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:06.560
<v Speaker 13>But yeah, it's all connected and they want to just

1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:09.000
<v Speaker 13>squash any kind of resistance there is, whether it's in

1:39:09.000 --> 1:39:12.639
<v Speaker 13>the West Bank and Gaza, as well as just trying

1:39:12.720 --> 1:39:19.599
<v Speaker 13>to take as much land as possible before international intervention happens,

1:39:19.600 --> 1:39:24.040
<v Speaker 13>which we haven't seen because the US continues to supply

1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:27.000
<v Speaker 13>weapons and arms to Israel.

1:39:27.560 --> 1:39:29.960
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, apparently what happened to you isn't going to stop

1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:32.880
<v Speaker 11>that like nothing else is, I know, what is just

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<v Speaker 11>for people who aren't familiar, the West Banks are much

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<v Speaker 11>larger geographical area.

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<v Speaker 8>Bank refers to the Jordan River.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 11>Setl colonialism is a term that people are familiar with, right, like,

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<v Speaker 11>and it happens, it's not. I'm not saying it doesn't

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<v Speaker 11>happen in America because it still happens every day. Like there,

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<v Speaker 11>It's a process that we continue to create. It's not

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<v Speaker 11>one that stops in nineteenth century, right. I don't want

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<v Speaker 11>imply that, but like where you were is the bleeding

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<v Speaker 11>edge of Setla colonialism.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a family being kicked out of their house. It's

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<v Speaker 11>people not being allowed to go back to their homes.

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<v Speaker 11>Do you have a sense of like what does that

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<v Speaker 11>look like? Because it's incredibly violent, right, and incredibly inhumane.

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<v Speaker 11>No reasonable person would think that like, oh yeah, this

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<v Speaker 11>seems normal and cool. Can you explain, like perhaps how

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<v Speaker 11>that would appear for one family or for the farm

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<v Speaker 11>or the village.

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<v Speaker 13>So in Kusra, there has been a good amount of

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<v Speaker 13>resistance even before October seventh from the leaders.

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<v Speaker 12>There and the community.

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<v Speaker 13>But even with that, three months before it looked like

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<v Speaker 13>settlers coming into town, a whole wave of them burning

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<v Speaker 13>eleven houses.

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<v Speaker 12>I believe it was cars.

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<v Speaker 13>Attacking people with Israeli army there not stopping anything. I

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<v Speaker 13>believe it was Muskvaryata, where other activists are, where they

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<v Speaker 13>literally come to the land say this is ours, try

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<v Speaker 13>to destroy instructure.

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<v Speaker 12>Like water wells.

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<v Speaker 13>They come in and literally say God told me this

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<v Speaker 13>is my land, and I'm here and try to settle there.

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<v Speaker 13>There's I guess I saw a place where the Israeli

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<v Speaker 13>occupation forces would guard around a mosque, not for the

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<v Speaker 13>Muslims there, but for settlers to come in and pretty

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<v Speaker 13>much making a synagogue for however long.

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<v Speaker 12>It looks like someone coming in and claiming.

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<v Speaker 13>That your home is theirs and destroying any infrastructure so

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<v Speaker 13>you don't come back, whether it's the home, the streets, water,

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<v Speaker 13>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I keep thinking about like one, how much it

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<v Speaker 10>didn't matter that you were American. But I keep thinking

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<v Speaker 10>about Rachel cor and how maybe that was the most

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<v Speaker 10>like egregious recent example I can think of of an

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<v Speaker 10>American citizen. I think she was twenty three when she died,

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<v Speaker 10>got run over by a fucking bulldozer from the iof

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<v Speaker 10>nothing happened. Her parents are still trying to remind the

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<v Speaker 10>world what happened, like year after year, and so it's

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<v Speaker 10>not surprising to me that no one reached out to

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<v Speaker 10>you and that there is no outrage. But it's just

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<v Speaker 10>really frustrating that it really doesn't matter, like it you

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<v Speaker 10>could have, like you could have lost your life and

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<v Speaker 10>no one would have bad an eye in government. Like

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<v Speaker 10>it really really just makes my blood boil because it's

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know, That's what I've been thinking about for

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<v Speaker 10>a tiny bit. It just reminded me of that and

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<v Speaker 10>how there's a protection being American where you're on the

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<v Speaker 10>ground in Palestine at all.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, when we're there, our power comes from having a

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<v Speaker 13>passport somewhere else and our phone. Right why we go

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<v Speaker 13>there to volunteer to create a buffer between the Israeli

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<v Speaker 13>army settlers and the Palestinians. And it shows their complete

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<v Speaker 13>disregard the caveat there is that they said it was

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<v Speaker 13>a mistake, which they went straight through my leg, So

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know what kind of mistake goes straight through

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<v Speaker 13>my leg. But also someone was arrested and heard that

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<v Speaker 13>they thought I was Palestinian, So it just shows even

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<v Speaker 13>more so the complete disregard for Palestinian life, whether they

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<v Speaker 13>thought I was or not, that they would just shoot me.

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<v Speaker 13>And yes, there was two US citizens that were recently

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<v Speaker 13>attacked by settlers and the IOF did not do anything,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, only a little bit after they said, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>stop throwing rocks, but the damage is done. Yeah, our

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<v Speaker 13>government has complete disregard for Palestinian lives because there was

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<v Speaker 13>also a lot of Palestinian Americans that have been dead. Ye,

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<v Speaker 13>and our lives are my life or others that are

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<v Speaker 13>just American with another nationality have you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 13>a little bit more value in their eyes. But because

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<v Speaker 13>they don't want outrage, international outrage. But yeah, our government

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<v Speaker 13>they haven't reached out to me, which showcases that they

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<v Speaker 13>don't care about US citizens that support Palestine. Even Biden

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<v Speaker 13>said that, you know, if a US citizen got hurt,

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<v Speaker 13>you would do something, and nothing has happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I think it's kind of illustrative, right, Like we're

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<v Speaker 11>supposed to live in a democracy, and like here they

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<v Speaker 11>are like choosing the interests of a state to do

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<v Speaker 11>what is extremely clearly and like it's very widely agreed

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<v Speaker 11>upon illegal, and to do so in a genocilal manner,

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<v Speaker 11>and they're going to back that over your right to

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<v Speaker 11>not be shot in the leg.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I do think it's it's funny maybe that's not the

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<v Speaker 10>right word, but the fact that they thought you were

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<v Speaker 10>a Palestinian, as if that was a good enough excuse

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<v Speaker 10>to shoot.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, yeah, oh oh oh.

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<v Speaker 10>That explains it, of course, Like okay, sure that makes

1:45:13.640 --> 1:45:15.360
<v Speaker 10>me so so mad.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, God, we mistook that person for a

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<v Speaker 11>person whose life doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 10>Like, yeah, it's shameful.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what, you're really giving it away?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And I think, like, I know, it seemed to

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<v Speaker 11>me that our government is not going to solve this, right,

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<v Speaker 11>like it realistically in the election, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 11>third parties and stuff. I'm going to vote for someone

1:45:35.720 --> 1:45:38.280
<v Speaker 11>who said nice things about a Sade, but like, you

1:45:38.320 --> 1:45:40.519
<v Speaker 11>don't have a box you can take that will make

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<v Speaker 11>this stop in November, right, And the only way we

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<v Speaker 11>can do anything is with solidarity. So like, what do

1:45:48.400 --> 1:45:52.240
<v Speaker 11>people do? Like how you've been there, you've seen it, Like,

1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:55.760
<v Speaker 11>how do people most effectively be in solidarity?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>I think the biggest thing is national pressure that we've

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<v Speaker 13>seen all across the globe, which has showcased some results

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<v Speaker 13>in other countries not here, where arms exports are actually

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<v Speaker 13>at least some are being banned or restricted all together.

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<v Speaker 13>But here, I think it's continuing to build up anti

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<v Speaker 13>impeerless organizations like on By and like the many pro

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<v Speaker 13>Palestinian organizations, like many revolutionary Black organizations, and then uniting

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<v Speaker 13>and come in together to create a power that is

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<v Speaker 13>beyond the two party system and uniting with everyone that

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<v Speaker 13>is pro Palestinian that does want to see true democracy

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<v Speaker 13>in the United States and all across the globe. Because

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<v Speaker 13>I was one person and people call me a hero,

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<v Speaker 13>but for me, the Palestines face this every day, the heroes,

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<v Speaker 13>and we should be uniting to support them in their liberation.

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<v Speaker 13>And sometimes it looks like building those organizations. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 13>also looks like going to Palestine and joining things like FAZA,

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<v Speaker 13>like International Solidarity Mission to you know, be a buffer

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<v Speaker 13>as much as we can, even though it's showcased that

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<v Speaker 13>they don't care. And I think when we unify, we

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<v Speaker 13>would be able to pressure, especially when we have good organizations,

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<v Speaker 13>to pressure elected officials to really divest from the two

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<v Speaker 13>party system and people that support genocide and have that

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<v Speaker 13>pressure amount to more than the lobby for Israel or

1:47:47.680 --> 1:47:50.800
<v Speaker 13>you know, people lobbying for arms for Israel, to have

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<v Speaker 13>that outweigh the pressure financially that they have politicians.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's very informative and really appreciate sharing your experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>thank you for all the work you do.

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<v Speaker 11>People might want to support your healing, they might want

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<v Speaker 11>to support father, they might want to support international diary mission,

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<v Speaker 11>they might want to find out more about how they

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<v Speaker 11>can be that buffer. Do you have any suggestions on

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<v Speaker 11>where people could do any of those or all of

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<v Speaker 11>those things.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, I don't have a personal fund right now, which

1:48:24.880 --> 1:48:29.120
<v Speaker 13>is fine going back to work teaching, but there are

1:48:29.200 --> 1:48:34.080
<v Speaker 13>people that need funds to be able to participate, especially

1:48:34.160 --> 1:48:38.200
<v Speaker 13>during the all of the harvest. So following a Faza

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<v Speaker 13>faz three a underscore pa L is somewhere to follow,

1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:48.080
<v Speaker 13>as well as Defend Palestine dot org. They're both connected,

1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:50.320
<v Speaker 13>so you can follow the news on what's happening on

1:48:50.360 --> 1:48:54.599
<v Speaker 13>the ground as well as I believe contacting them. There's

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<v Speaker 13>a general fund for folks that want to travel to

1:48:57.200 --> 1:49:00.000
<v Speaker 13>Palestine but are not able to, so there's a general

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<v Speaker 13>fun for that in the future. My friend was going

1:49:03.600 --> 1:49:07.720
<v Speaker 13>to make a T shirt to help fund the Palestinian

1:49:08.040 --> 1:49:10.679
<v Speaker 13>Ambulance Center over there that I got a first aid

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<v Speaker 13>training with Amado Sison on there. So I don't know

1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:19.040
<v Speaker 13>if it'll work here, but over there desnin'tly. So there's

1:49:19.080 --> 1:49:22.639
<v Speaker 13>a lot of different things. I know there's the different

1:49:22.640 --> 1:49:25.519
<v Speaker 13>camps that are being raided right now. I think there's

1:49:25.560 --> 1:49:29.599
<v Speaker 13>some fundraisers for them as well. In Gaza there's plenty too.

1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:33.519
<v Speaker 13>But in any way that people can contribute to any

1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:36.639
<v Speaker 13>of those things, you know, it always goes a long

1:49:36.680 --> 1:49:37.200
<v Speaker 13>way for them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and that's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, Tarantia. You wanted to say to people a

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<v Speaker 11>mother before we finish up.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I hope that one day, folks, persons listening right now,

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<v Speaker 13>if you're capable and able to join up to see

1:49:53.960 --> 1:49:59.280
<v Speaker 13>the beauty of Palestine. The landscape, it's gorgeous outside of

1:49:59.280 --> 1:50:04.599
<v Speaker 13>the settlement. The people are so loving and caring, and

1:50:05.040 --> 1:50:09.200
<v Speaker 13>the culture is just amazing. And I just hope that

1:50:09.680 --> 1:50:13.639
<v Speaker 13>you will be able to see Palestine one day, whether

1:50:13.720 --> 1:50:17.240
<v Speaker 13>it is to be in solidarity with them as a

1:50:17.280 --> 1:50:21.040
<v Speaker 13>protective presence or just to see it. And hopefully one

1:50:21.080 --> 1:50:24.160
<v Speaker 13>day in Shallah it's free and we are all.

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<v Speaker 12>Able to visit.

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