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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt the Mike Tomlin news

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Speaker 2: conference happened today and yeah, no surprise here that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers going with Justin Fields again at quarterback. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: still not cleared medically to return, not expected to be

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Speaker 2: a full participant in practice this week, and Tomlin said

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Speaker 2: basically until that happens, that's a plan till Rotherdil is right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so interesting stuff. I mean, the offense needs to

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Speaker 3: play better. Of course, the field has done some good things,

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Speaker 3: not all of it's in the box score. And I

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Speaker 3: think he's coming along reasonably well. I mean, there's some

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Speaker 3: stuff I was looking at today. He was blitzed in

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Speaker 3: that last game more than any game in his career,

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Speaker 3: and he handled it better than any game in his career,

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Speaker 3: Like he was the most blitzed quarterback in the league

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Speaker 3: last year. And because he wasn't good at it, well,

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Speaker 3: since he's been here, he's been good at it, you know,

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Speaker 3: like change of environment changes people. And I still don't

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Speaker 3: think they're utilizing his legs to the fullest extent, probably

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Speaker 3: on purpose. You know. They have other ballcarriers and they're

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Speaker 3: catering things well to him. But you'd love to see

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Speaker 3: Wilson too, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that'll happen at some point here. But for

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Speaker 2: the time being, Tomlin basically repeating what he said yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He said, Look, until Russell Wilson is healthy, I can't

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Speaker 2: have any kind of discussion what happens down the road,

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Speaker 2: he said. But he did say today, Look, I said

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season that Russ's in pole position,

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Speaker 2: he was going to be our starter. I haven't changed

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Speaker 2: my mind about that.

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Speaker 3: Wilson's done nothing wrong, no, I mean, he's not going backwards,

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Speaker 3: you know, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not like to your point, Fields has

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Speaker 2: gone out there and licked the world on fire. Her

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Speaker 2: they scored one touchdown. Yeah, so I saw this today.

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Speaker 2: There's four teams in the NFL have scored one touchdown

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Speaker 2: so far. Offensively, Steelers are two and oh Bears are

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Speaker 2: one and one. Denver and Caroline are own two. You know,

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Speaker 2: like it's hard to win that way, but they're winning

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Speaker 2: other ways really really well. You know, defense, special teams, turnovers,

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Speaker 2: they're excelling in those departments. And again, Tuesdays, like my

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Speaker 2: stat day, I have a little more free time. I

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Speaker 2: build my stat packet like crazy. And there was some

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff about Fields along the lines of, you know

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Speaker 2: how Pro Football Focus does their turnover worthy stats, he

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Speaker 2: only has one turnover worthy play all year by their standards.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's protecting the football, which is again compared

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Speaker 2: to what he did in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Is the total opposite. If we got the Chicago version

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Speaker 3: of Fields, I don't think the Steelers would lead the

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Speaker 3: league and turnover differential. They might have some more big

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Speaker 3: plays possibly, but I don't have to be two.

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Speaker 2: And oh well they're managing things well, yeah, Tom was

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Speaker 2: asked about that. He said, look, we're running the ball

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Speaker 2: a lot because not only do we have, you know,

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Speaker 2: basically a backup quarterback, and we're playing on the road,

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Speaker 2: and we've had three young linemen make their make their debut.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to protect those guys too, and young linemen

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Speaker 2: typically run block better than they pass block.

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Speaker 3: And we know Arthur Smith wants to run the ball. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers wanted to run the ball before Arthur Smith. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: their backfield is a strength, shortens the game. They want

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Speaker 3: to be a physical football team. So it's working. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got to score more than one touchdown every other game.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there was some stuff called back and

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Speaker 3: they're winning in the margins. And what I think is,

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Speaker 3: I put this out on Twitter last night. I think

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Speaker 3: the Steelers are the best defense in the league right now.

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Speaker 2: You can make that argument. Now, the metrics and things

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Speaker 2: of that nature they are, they don't point to that, right.

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Speaker 2: I think it passes the eye test.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean Porter being able to hold Sutton

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Speaker 3: in London to what he does.

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Speaker 2: Get me started on that. Because I tweeted this out

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Speaker 2: last night. I was just looking around Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 2: had Joey Porter Junior as their eighty fifth cornerback out

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Speaker 3: How does that actually work? I mean, I know he's

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Speaker 3: had penalties. That's like the only negative thing he could

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Speaker 2: He shut down and Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, like shut him down, shut him down, and

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Speaker 3: he follows more than anybody in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the pounc each pff thing. Yeah right, Well,

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Speaker 3: he grade really low for us, but the Steelers ask

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Speaker 3: him to do more than any center in the league. Well,

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Speaker 3: should there be kind of weighted curve here in some way,

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Speaker 3: shape or form. You know, that makes no sense to

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Again, That's why I always say when when people bring

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Speaker 2: up those grades, I'm like, who's who's giving the grades? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: come on, I hear you there. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean the defense is playing well, so you're you're catering

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Speaker 2: to the defense. The Chargers are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a real similar script. Yeah, and Denver is not

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Speaker 3: much better than Carolina, but Carolina is a distant thirty second.

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Speaker 2: I saw this today. I about this stat. The rookie

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this year's class have yet to throw a

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Speaker 3: Wow. Williams has been really bad. Daniels hasn't either. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Nuts, but yeah that's right. Wow, that's six combined games

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Speaker 2: and they haven't thrown a single touchdown pass and it's

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Speaker 2: it's kind of across the league, Matt. That scoring there

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Speaker 2: are some teams that are scoring a bunch of points

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Speaker 2: that are kind of skewing the curve a little bit,

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Speaker 2: The Saints one of them.

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Speaker 3: All the metrics are off the charge with them.

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Speaker 2: But overall, I don't see scoring being up right now

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Speaker 3: I think it's way down, especially passing yardage. Like perfect

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Speaker 3: example is Pat Mahomes. I think he threw for like

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty yards this past week. Because we

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Speaker 3: all agreed is the best player on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Allen's not far behind. He threw and thirty

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Speaker 3: And I think Mahomes has the shortest average depth of

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Speaker 2: You know, we thought that would change this year. He

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Speaker 2: was that way last year, yep. And we thought with

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Speaker 2: that would Oh, they're going to open things back up again.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's a non factor right now.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's not a factor too. It's just the way defenses

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Speaker 3: the football, you know, and that this doesn't lead to

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Speaker 3: a lot of points. For passing yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how the league tweaks that are attacks out.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's one big reason why they

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Speaker 2: for the kickoff change rule change, and it hasn't you

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Speaker 2: know Bard Fruit, Yeah, but I do think they want to.

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Speaker 3: It made me wonder, like watching that Broncos Steelers game,

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Speaker 3: especially Garrett Bowles, they can allow holding again. I hope not.

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Speaker 3: It would hurt the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see a flag fest, right, But

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Speaker 2: I also don't want to see holding become legal again,

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty exactly because twenty twenty is the last time scoring

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Speaker 3: was up. Yeah, no one in the stands COVID year

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Speaker 3: holding was legal, and every year since it has been

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Speaker 3: a pretty decent drop in the league. And if I

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Speaker 3: think if Roder Goodell was sitting here, he'd be like,

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Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest problems we have in the

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Speaker 3: whole league, you know, like we get scoring back up

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Speaker 3: because the casual fan or the not so casual fan,

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Speaker 3: they want to watch and fantasy and all the stuff

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Speaker 3: of the tracks are not nine six games, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I mean we like that stuff, but

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Speaker 2: we're weirdo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but real quick though, last night's game kind of

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Speaker 3: makes the Steelers win in Week one look a little better,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the same thing. Yeah, you know, his

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Speaker 2: cousins look better than he much really good, much more

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia was trying to get there with four and couldn't.

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Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, London was was a factor, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly there guys were you know, Bijeon looked awesome, he

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Speaker 2: looked Ali was just as good. Absolutely, so I almost

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Speaker 2: wanted to tweet out during the game. I'm like, because

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Speaker 2: when they kept putting Algier and if you looked at

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Speaker 2: I almost wanted to tweet out, why is Arthur Smith

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Speaker 2: calling Tyler Algier? Algier is good?

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Speaker 3: Algiers good? Right? I mean he would like the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: would kill for him right now. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: like there's a lot of teams Cowboys, right, you know, Raiders,

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Speaker 3: and your backs don't play ninety percent of snaps eighty

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Speaker 3: we did all that homework for Week one, Bijeon in

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Speaker 3: terms of like target percentage for running backs was like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so they use them a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's just a misconcepts.

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Speaker 2: Thirty times a game, that's what you wanted, that's what

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Speaker 2: that's what Arthur Smith wants to do. Thirty plus carries

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Speaker 2: per game. It can't all be on Bijeon in his

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Speaker 2: rookie year. Yeah, yeah, right, I'm new to the league, right,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, that victory, you know, Atlanta looked like a

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Speaker 2: much different, much different team. They're defense gave Philadelphia fits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right right, you know, if not for Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: running around on some stuff and beating them with his legs,

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Speaker 2: was having a tough time score on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, No, I think it makes Steelers look a

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Speaker 3: lot better. And you could convince me coming off his

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Speaker 3: injury at his age, Cousins was quote rusty and we.

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Speaker 2: Talked about that, right, you know, that's their fault for

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Speaker 2: not playing him in a preseason.

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Speaker 3: But the line is what I kept coming back to.

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Speaker 3: It was like the Steelers front whipped up on the

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Speaker 3: Falcons front, which we know is good. And I bet

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Speaker 3: starting last night, the Falcons front is going to show

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Speaker 3: that it's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna look much much better the rest of

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Speaker 2: the line.

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Speaker 3: They got beat up by the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not all that surprising, you know. We

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Speaker 2: talked about that last week, that this this Steelers line,

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Speaker 2: defensive front is going to have the advantage. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be huge this week. Huge has to be huge

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Speaker 2: this week because this Chargers line is good.

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Speaker 3: It's really good. And they did okay against the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: which is a really good front. That Raiders team torture.

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Speaker 2: They don't have as many guys.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna be cheap.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna cost more than Shukes made in New England

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Speaker 2: I could certainly do that as well.

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Speaker 2: He's bringing in officials. Usually they only do it on

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Speaker 3: couple of.

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Speaker 2: Years, kind of makes what they've done even more remarkable,

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Speaker 2: right right. You know, you're two and zero and you've

441
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Speaker 2: been the second most penalized team.

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Speaker 3: In the league. And another thing I said, you know

443
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Speaker 3: that according to EPA, if you combine special teams and turnovers,

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Speaker 3: no team in the league has benefited more than the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And they're up in the top left corner all by themselves,

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Speaker 3: kind of like the Saints are in every category right now.

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Speaker 2: That's hard to keep up, but it's one of those

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Speaker 2: things that just something that they have Dealers, Steeler in

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, absolutely, events obviously, And.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt it is Power Ranking Day.

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Speaker 3: Ooh well, okay, I'm gonna do one tonight. Actually, well

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Speaker 3: it should be interesting this day.

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Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about this yesterday the Atlanta

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Speaker 2: Falcons last night avoiding becoming the tenth zero to two team. Right,

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Speaker 2: so let's dig into this. We use Eric at Holmes

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Speaker 2: rankings on NFL dot Com. I think I know thirty

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Speaker 2: two is gonna be. That would be your Carolina Panthers. Wow,

471
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Speaker 2: they bad. They are awful, awful, awful.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of similarities between the Chargers and

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Speaker 3: Steelers and style will play and I respect their coaches,

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Speaker 3: and we talked about the O line and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: But I warn you folks, when we talk Charger numbers,

476
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Speaker 3: they're stewed. Game is against this team. It's excuse.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, but you've also played the Raiders who

478
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Speaker 2: can't stop the run right right, right right, which is

479
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Speaker 2: an issue as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like this was Chargers radio would be like, well,

481
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Speaker 3: this is gonna be a different test. But JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins is averaging nine point nine yards of carry. He's

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Speaker 2: averaging ten yards of carry. Basically, just give it over

484
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Speaker 2: two games. I don't care if it was one game thing,

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Speaker 2: you're averaging ten yards of carry. He's averaging ten yards

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Speaker 2: of carry over two games season. And he looks great.

487
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Speaker 2: He's he looks like a really good player. But that's

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Speaker 2: not he's not that good. He's not gonna average ten

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers. No, no, no, Yeah, the Panthers are

490
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Speaker 2: deadly last. They make the switch to Andy Dalton at

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Speaker 2: quarterback this week.

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Speaker 3: I actually think that's something you have to do.

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Speaker 2: You have to and maybe it makes their wide receivers

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Speaker 2: relevant again in fantasy stuff. I mean, Deontay Johnson has

495
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Speaker 2: like four catches in the first two games for twenty yards.

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Speaker 2: Would you say the passing take for sixty eight yards

497
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Speaker 2: age last week?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: So I do think it helps the kid if you

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Speaker 2: can put his ego aside. Just go sit down and

501
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Speaker 2: watch Andy do this, and maybe you'll learn something. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is you can't evaluate the other

503
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Speaker 3: ten players on the field. No, it's impossible, right, it's impossible.

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Speaker 2: Right, thirty one This is a little harsh. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure who I'd pick here. He has the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I thought that would be the pick because I thought

507
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Speaker 3: loser of Washington Giants was gonna get thirty one. I

508
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Speaker 3: think i'd put Denver.

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Speaker 2: I'd put Denver there. Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they can't. Their offense is not challenging at all. No,

511
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Speaker 2: and Jones is better than Nicks at this stage of

512
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Speaker 2: the game. They have the Giants should have. If the

513
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Speaker 2: Giants had a healthy kicker, they win that game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I think they in Washington seven out of ten times.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I might have Washington behind the Giants exactly.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think they're a worse team at thirty down.

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Speaker 2: Two spots are Denver, okay, yeah, twenty nine down three

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Speaker 2: spots Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Their offense is at the zen.

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Speaker 2: Levis is bad.

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Speaker 3: He's real bad. You called this in June Rudolph, but

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Speaker 3: they'd be better with Rudolph. Yeah, there's no doubt in

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Speaker 3: my mind. Hopkins might be done. The O line, I'm

524
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Speaker 3: not sure is better. I mean, it's they invested in it,

525
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Speaker 3: but it's bad. Their defense is playing really well, though

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Speaker 3: we would know.

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Speaker 2: But you can't overcome Levis as just stupid mistakes, right right,

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Speaker 2: I mean just backbreaking stuff. Yeah, interceptions, just tossing the

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Speaker 2: ball backwards to the other it's just thumb stot, what.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing? Yeah, I think they're better than Washington though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty eight, up one spot is Washington, so

532
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Speaker 2: he didn't eat him. Bump them up too high, right right,

533
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Speaker 2: I mean I get that you gotta win, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: put it in context. At twenty seven holding steady the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't push them too high. No, to respect what.

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Speaker 2: We said last week that this would be about as

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Speaker 2: high as they get. Now, they might be better than

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Speaker 2: those teams behind them.

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Speaker 3: Let me take Seattle to overtime. I mean, it's been

540
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Speaker 3: a good start to the season for the pace.

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Speaker 2: The defense looks solid despite missing some pieces.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they're running the ball. I mean they're Yeah, they're.

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Speaker 2: Not going to run the ball consistently against everybody, though.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I still just think they

545
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Speaker 3: win five games.

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Speaker 2: At twenty six, up four spots the Raiders. So this

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Speaker 2: is who the Chargers have played, the Raiders. Yeah, and Carol. Two,

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Speaker 2: this went to Baltimore and one. I think I said

549
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Speaker 2: more about Baltimore than it does. Yeah, I was going to.

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Speaker 3: Hold my Baltimore Thoughts till we got to them because

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Speaker 3: I think they have some issues. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: still think they beat the Raiders eight out of ten times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had a ten point lead in

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Speaker 2: that game.

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Speaker 3: That's when they go.

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Speaker 2: I mean you've talked about happened time and again with

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Speaker 2: them over and over and over. Our team runs the

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Speaker 2: ball that well.

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Speaker 3: How do you not close teams out? Yeah, and you

560
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Speaker 3: let Minshew throw all over you, I mean accurately and easily.

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Speaker 2: They've gottn up the most passing yards in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty five down eleven spots the Rams.

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Speaker 3: That's where they're at right now. Yeah, and that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to get better.

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Speaker 3: No Cup is the newest of them all. Could a

568
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Speaker 3: team get Stafford at the trade deadline? I might suggested

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Speaker 3: Steelers should by the way, I'm just you know, does

570
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Speaker 3: it blow it up time? I mean, Miami might want them.

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Speaker 2: Miami should sure want them. Yeah, and thought of that angle.

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Speaker 2: At twenty four down two spots the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 3: You're right about Richardson's accuracies. I mean, he sprays things

574
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Speaker 3: everywhere but the run defense, he's like a shotgun. He's like, yeah,

575
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Speaker 3: the run defense is pitiful. Yeah, I mean that's all

576
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: the Packers could do, and I mean they might as

577
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Speaker 3: well put up on the scoreboard. We're gonna hand the

578
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: Josh Shacobs and you couldn't do anything about it. Now

579
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Speaker 3: Buckner's hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Miami, I may have mentioned them by now too.

582
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: They don't know their quarterback situations.

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Speaker 2: As bad as that. He drop pretty good out to

584
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: drop the rams up far.

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Speaker 3: Right right, same situation, not necessarily your fault, but nobody

586
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: cares about that.

587
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: Twenty three down, four spots, the Jaguars. They're a mess franchise.

588
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: It's that franchise.

589
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: I think so too. Like I feel for Lawrence, but

590
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: he's playing bad. You were talking, you were heavy and

591
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Speaker 3: last week about how soft Miami is. This team soft soft.

592
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: They don't put anybody away. I mean they don't play

593
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: with power at all on offense. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty two up three spots, the Arizona Cardinals.

595
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they beat the Dolphins right now. Were

596
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: favorite against the Dolphins right now with the Dolphins quarterback situation, Yeah,

597
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: I think they have a legit good offense.

598
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Speaker 2: Ope, I got some breaking Steelers news here. Tyler Mattakaevich

599
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: goes to injured reserve. The Steelers signing to their practice

600
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Speaker 2: squad cornerback James Pierre.

601
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's scream special teams, folks.

602
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: And they also signed defensive back to Sean Jamison. They

603
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: cut Sekwan Davis and Zion Gilbert from their practice squad.

604
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: Okay, No, Pierre's noteworthy, of course.

605
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if if you're not going to have Scronic.

606
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: This week, abou's what I was thinking, right.

607
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Pierre gives you a guys, you know, there's been a

608
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: gunner for you and done a good job with that.

609
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: So so real quick. I mean we were talking about

610
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: this yesterday. I didn't realize Scronic was even banged up,

611
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: that he's done such a good job. He's going to

612
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: get a helmet on Sunday and then you gotta put

613
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Speaker 3: him on the roster roster, you know, do you maybe

614
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: just say, Pierre, why don't you be Skeronic for a

615
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: week and we'll cross the scornic bridge in week four? Yeah?

616
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he may not be active this week

617
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: if he can't practice because of the shoulders.

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure Pierre could be a gunner

619
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Speaker 3: for you though. Yeah.

620
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Speaker 2: Today, Yeah at twenty one down six spots, and this

621
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 2: is where they belong. He was too high on them

622
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: to begin with the Chicago Bears, And I might be

623
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: a little kind, but I think if they played the

624
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals right now, I'm picking the Cardinals.

625
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: Their old line's been bad. Yeah, Caleb Williams has not

626
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: been good and Allen's injured. I think they're like in

627
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: Tennessee Land.

628
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: At twenty up three spots, the Falcons. I would have

629
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: them higher. That's a good win. Last night in Philadelphia, Yeah,

630
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: I mean I was higher on them, and I didn't

631
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: think it was a horrendous loss to the Steelers out

632
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: there by the way well, and I think that's part

633
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: of the of this whole thing. I think the Steelers

634
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: are one of these teams. We talked about it a lot.

635
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Everybody was too high on the Chargers. Everybody was too

636
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: low on the Steelers. I agree.

637
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: I agree. So you look at like, oh, wow, that's

638
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: a horrible loss. In Week one, Yeah, they were two

639
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: and a half point favorites and they lost to a

640
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: pretty decent team. Yeah.

641
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Higher, Yeah, at nineteen up two spots. Seattle the lowest

642
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: of the two and O teams.

643
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: So we were just kind of talking about power ranks

644
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: today and I thought, Seattle, Minnesota, Tampa, and I know

645
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: the Saints have done great things, but those four to

646
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: me are about the same. And I know they're all

647
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: two and oh they're all in the NFC. That's why

648
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm wumping them together. I don't know how i'd rank them.

649
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: I'd have the Saints first, but I would have them

650
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: all together.

651
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: In eighteen holding steady Cleveland.

652
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I think got up of Seattle, head of Cleveland.

653
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: At seventeen down eight spots, Miami two.

654
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: Kind if you don't have a quarterback at all, I

655
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: don't care about the other stuff. Yeah, who was it? Oh?

656
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Speaker 3: I was listening to Michael Bardi's podcast today and he

657
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: was really going on a rant about coordinators that are

658
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: head coaches versus head coaches, and he cited Tomlin a

659
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: lot of that's a head coach, you know, But where

660
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: he was killing was Miami and Indy. They're offensive coordinators

661
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: running the team, you know, like the play calling is

662
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: great and all that, but you don't learn how to

663
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: play with the defense. You know, how to put teams

664
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Speaker 3: away and build for tomorrow and O lines matter.

665
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: And you know, it doesn't matter how good of a

666
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: play caller you are, how big of us, how good

667
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: of a schemer you are, if you don't have a

668
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: quarterback who can complete passes.

669
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: In that scheme, in that quarterback for each other perfectly.

670
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: You're paying Tyreek Hill and Jalm Waddle fifty million dollars

671
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: this year, more than fifty million, sixty million dollars this

672
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: year for nothing.

673
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: For nothing. I mean, like the league we're in. I

674
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: got fortunate and I got Mason. There's no chance I'm

675
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: gonna start Wattle anymore. Like I bet a lot of

676
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: the Lake Fantasy League's He's not even started again, no

677
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: fault of his own.

678
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the big issues with wide receivers.

679
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: If you don't have a quarterback right right, sis can't

680
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: throw the battle themselves. You've got to be able to

681
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: get the ball to them. At sixteenth's way too high

682
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: for Miami. Their defense isn't good enough to carry you. No,

683
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, down six spots at sixteen the Bengals.

684
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: Huh, I'd be kinder to the Bengals. Yeah, two tough

685
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: losses I sent you this. They're zero and six in

686
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: the last three years in weeks one and two.

687
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: Are you not learning from your' They've won one time

688
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: under Taylor in week one and in the first two

689
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: weeks in the sew since.

690
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: He's been there. They're like one of the still don't

691
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: play your guys at all in the preseat, like you

692
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: don't change anything you're doing. Come on, man.

693
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: At fifteen up five spots the two and O Vikings.

694
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: This would be thy neighborhood for them. Yeah.

695
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: At fourteen up three spots the two and oh Steelers

696
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: doesn't sound crazy. It's where they should have been though.

697
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

698
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Right at thirteen holding steady are the Jets. The Steelers

699
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: play the Jets right now. I like the Steelers.

700
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: I might put the Jets on several well, not below Miami.

701
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: I mean they beat the Titans, right, I mean, I

702
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: think the Vikings, maybe the Seahawks or right there with

703
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: the Jets, if not better.

704
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twelve up four spots the two and O Buccaneers.

705
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: I believe in them. I mean you can go and

706
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: you beat the Lions. There's something you said for that. Absolutely,

707
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: although the Lions Week one win over the Rams doesn't.

708
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Look doesn't quite so yeah, yeah, yeah at eleven, down

709
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: three spots, Dallas.

710
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't handle power on defense very well either. No,

711
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean they're not strong up the middle. They got

712
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: a lot of safeties playing.

713
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: They can't run the ball.

714
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: They can't run the ball. I mean, they're a finesse team.

715
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, at ten, up one spot, Green Bay.

716
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that, assuming Love is back. We haven't

717
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: gotten to a winless team rate yet. Yeah. Yet that

718
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: when I can't be in the top ten, they can't, right,

719
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: And that would be the team that's at nine that

720
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: dropped four spots, that's Baltimore. They can't be in the

721
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: top ten right now.

722
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't think they're better in the Bengals, no, you know,

723
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if we talk about winless teams. So this

724
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: was another thing Lombardi was talking about. He's like, Zach

725
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: orr is just not ready to be a defensive coordinator.

726
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: You know, he got thrust into it. Harbaugh's going to

727
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: have to help him. This isn't uncommon in the league.

728
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: Some guys get in there before they should. This wasn't

729
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: their plan, their plan. They didn't expect to get the

730
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: whole defensive staff rated, you know, and your point, they

731
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: don't close teams out, yea. And that's been going on

732
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: for years.

733
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Now, right, This isn't this isn't a new issue.

734
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: And as well as they run the football over the

735
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: last couple of years, that doesn't add up crazy. And

736
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: then the other thing Lbardi got a big kick out

737
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: of is I guess they interviewed Harbaugh and they were

738
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: asking him about the offense, which is kind of rudderless

739
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: right now, and he said something like, we don't feature anyone,

740
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: and I immediately thought.

741
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: To go get Derrick Henry exactly. If you're a feature,

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: you don't get that guy unless you feature, right, I mean,

743
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: you don't put this isn't Gus Edwards anymore. You don't

744
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: get Dereck Henry.

745
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: Give him eleven carries. Again, it's a game, right, you

746
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: have to feature him if you're going to get that

747
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: guy just because of his style.

748
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I can't. They, like I said, they've given

749
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: up the most passing yards.

750
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: In the league. That's amazing.

751
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: Through two games.

752
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: The Raiders aren't loaded.

753
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay. They played the Chiefs the first week one and

754
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: I've heard people say, well, you know, they lost by

755
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: by half an inch to the to the Chiefs in

756
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City. I'm like, no, they didn't. That just would

757
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: have tied the game.

758
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: But they were gonna go for two.

759
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: They were gonna go for two. There was no guarantee

760
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: they would have gotten Yeah.

761
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, I think that's too kind a scene

762
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: on tape. Yeah, they're figured. I mean they're still working

763
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: on figuring that thing out. They O, line's not good,

764
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: that's not gonna get fixed.

765
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: No, No, they don't have guys on injured reserve waiting

766
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: to come back.

767
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: Like, would you put the Vikings ahead of them?

768
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: It's a little rich.

769
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, like they just they did just beat San

770
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: Francisco right right, or Tampa, I mean the two and

771
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: O teams that were a little shocked.

772
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: Or to and No, well at eight is one of

773
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: those teams up sixteen spots the Saints.

774
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean what they've done is unbelievably impressive. That's

775
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: a little rich.

776
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: They beat Caroline, one of those against Carol, right.

777
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: And Dallas wins was wonderful. And the number of points

778
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: that they have like a plus sixty point differential something insane.

779
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: I think that's a little rich. Though I don't know

780
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: they beat.

781
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: You're definitely gonna think this one is rich because it's

782
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: seven up five spots are the Chargers.

783
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: That's crazy to me, they would be down ten spots.

784
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: I think they're worse than the Vikings, the Bucks Seattle. Yeah.

785
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you beat the teams that are twenty nine and

786
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: thirty two of us on this list. We knew going

787
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: into the season their schedule was cake. Absolutely, I'm not

788
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: convinced they're a great team. If they're not certainly not

789
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: the seventh best team in the league.

790
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: If they come here and control the action and have

791
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: thirty four minutes a time of possession run for one

792
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: sixty Herbert's not taking sacks, they're let up ten points,

793
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: I'll be on board with that's where they're at. Yeah,

794
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: I can tell you right now that won't be my

795
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Friday prediction.

796
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: No, I mean I could see them winning this game

797
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: because they do have the better quarterback.

798
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: Yep.

799
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: But like the Steelers have the better defense, agreed, Agreed,

800
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: I mean their defensive Steelers have the better special teams, yes,

801
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: just yet, I mean, and they have the better coach,

802
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: whether some people want to believe that or not. And

803
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: they're home, and they're at home at six down two

804
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: spots Philadelphia.

805
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: I wouldn't crush them for last night A J. Brown

806
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: being Now it's not great though, so.

807
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: It's a big deal.

808
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, in several weeks now really high in the list

809
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: of guys you don't want to lose on that team.

810
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: Their bye week is in after week. I think it's

811
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: in week five. Oh, he won't play before that then,

812
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: probably doesn't know. Yeah, I mean that's when it gets

813
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: hurt in practice too, Like yeah, Stings five down two

814
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: spots is Detroit.

815
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm not worried. I mean, I said, boy, the Rams

816
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: wind doesn't look as great, but I still think.

817
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: They're they'll figure it out. Yeah.

818
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just did a four and a half sacks

819
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: as we.

820
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Three in the first quarter. Buffalo at four up, three spots,

821
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: I'm cool with it.

822
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: I think it's really encouraging that they showed they can

823
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: win without Alan put in the Superman case. Yeah, you know,

824
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: just we don't have to. That can't be our only form.

825
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: They just smothered Miami, just smothered Miami. Yeah. Yeah, they're

826
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: a well coached team too.

827
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: At three up three spots is Houston.

828
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm there with that too. Like what they're doing, they

829
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: fly around the football on defense, Petrie and those guys

830
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: they make plays at.

831
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Two, holding steady despite losing last week? Is San Francisco?

832
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: I agree? I would go k see San fran Houston

833
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: and one is Kansas City. Would yourself deebo is gonna

834
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: be out for a little while. See. I think you

835
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: got to look at who they're going to be playing.

836
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: They don't have McCaffrey and now they don't have Debo.

837
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: San Francisco is gonna lose some games.

838
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah they are. I don't know if their defense is

839
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: quite where it's been. Usually their d line's got seven

840
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: or eight dudes. This year they got five or six. Yeah,

841
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 3: and Hardgrave is a really good player, but he doesn't

842
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: stop the run like people think he does because he's

843
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: a wide body. I mean he gets up the field.

844
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: They can be a little vulnerable at the middle. Would

845
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 3: they be your two?

846
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: No? Who would Buffalo Detroit? Maybe Houston.

847
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: Houston's playing well, Yeah, their quarterbacks are really legit. Yeah,

848
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 3: he's a good player. I think got the defense is good.

849
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: That's one team I would consider bumping the Niners for Yeah,

850
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: but definitely move them to three probably, but.

851
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't surprise I don't know who they play next

852
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: week yet. Well, we'll get into that. And yeah, segment,

853
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: it would be a bad time to typically have not

854
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: done well when they've been missing some of their pieces.

855
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think they tend to lose games and bunches. Yeah,

856
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: you know when they roll in their.

857
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: Rolling you know, last year, I think it was Trent

858
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: Williams and Debo who are out and they went on

859
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: a little.

860
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: Bit of such a top heavy Russell roster. I mean

861
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: they have five of the best twenty players on the planet. Yeah,

862
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: and then not all after right, right, exactly, so tested quick.

863
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

864
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: That was Eric Edholmes one Niner question. If I gave

865
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: you the Niners or the rest of the NFC West

866
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: to win the division, are you there yet on any

867
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: of those teams? No, I'm still taking the no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

868
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: I kind of like what Seattle's doing, but they're not gonna.

869
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: They're not going eleven games.

870
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, definitely not. That was Eric Aedholmes Power

871
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Rankings on NFL dot Com. He is Matt Williamson. I

872
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: am Dale, Lallie. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after.

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Speaker 1: This your home for the Steelers. This is the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. This is The Drive with Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt as you mentioned, they're

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Speaker 2: briefly in the previous segment two attack of Vailoa to

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Speaker 2: injure reserve with that concussion. Dolphins are in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Dolphins are in huge trouble. I mean I might be

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Speaker 3: a little early. I mean we're in the middle of

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Speaker 3: September here. I don't know if they can make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I mean they would have to come back. That's at

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Speaker 3: least four games, I know, and what they're won in

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Speaker 3: one right now. Yeah, and they didn't look good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you said yesterday, he played the majority of that

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Speaker 3: game against the Bill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just and they.

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Speaker 3: Were vastly outplayed. All right, that was a missing performance

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Speaker 3: by the Dolphins. And then injury on top of ineptitude there.

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Speaker 3: And I can't imagine it's only going to be four weeks.

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Speaker 2: We just don't know, we don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean what I mean, he may never play again.

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Speaker 3: He might be back in week six or whatever.

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Speaker 2: This week they travel to Seattle, their dog there, their dog,

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Speaker 2: big dog would.

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Speaker 3: Then they get the Titans at home. Okay maybe maybe,

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Speaker 3: but like we used to power ranks, I would have

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Speaker 3: those two right next to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Then the Dolphins travel to New England.

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Speaker 3: I don't love that for them. You would think that

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Speaker 3: you chuck that us with a win going into the season.

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Speaker 3: But I bet New England runs on them, and I

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Speaker 3: bet it's a low scoring game and take our chances. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and maybe Huntley's established himself at that point or I

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Speaker 3: don't know if he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Take you all right.

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Speaker 3: I never thought he admit it. Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then they play the Colt is not.

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Speaker 3: A rhythm type pass either. His style of play.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't doesn't fit with what they want to do.

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Speaker 3: He's a hold the ball and dump it down. He's

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Speaker 3: not on target on that type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Then on October twentieth, they play in Indianapolis. So three

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Speaker 2: of these games, next four games on the road.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad slate though not terrible.

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Speaker 2: But that just assumes that you get him back after

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Speaker 2: four weeks.

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Speaker 3: We all make the mistakes of looking at the schedule

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Speaker 3: when it first comes out and be like, ah, they

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Speaker 3: should win. This is an easy stretch. It's a hard stretch.

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Speaker 3: You really don't know, of course. Yeah, but they probably

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Speaker 3: looked at this like, oh, we're gonna start the season

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Speaker 3: on fire, We're gonna be six and one, and you know,

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Speaker 3: then it gets more difficult. I think the rest of

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Speaker 3: their schedules really hard th back loaded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you look at the back end

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Speaker 2: of the schedule because they have to play.

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Speaker 3: Cold weather games at the end of the year when

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Speaker 3: I remember, which isn't how they're suited when they're at

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Speaker 3: their best.

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Speaker 2: Starting in November at the Bills at the Rams, Raiders

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Speaker 2: at Dolphins, Patriots at Dolphins, Dolphins at Packers, Jets at Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: Dolphins at Texans, forty nine Ers at Dolphins, Dolphins at Browns,

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Speaker 2: Dolphins at Jets.

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Speaker 3: I would put them low on the list.

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Speaker 2: If we were.

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Speaker 3: Think about doing this sort of podcast and maybe this

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Speaker 3: week of let we only know two things. We have

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Speaker 3: two data points on every team. If we were to

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Speaker 3: redo our predictions, you know who the playoff teams are

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Speaker 3: in the AFC, Miami wouldn't be one of them. They'd

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Speaker 3: be far off. Yeah, I mean, and Jacksonville's rough, Indies rough.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine a second team of the South coming out.

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Speaker 3: The Jets are worse than I thought.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to look real hard here at miamis

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Speaker 2: schedule to find eight losses. I mean even with Tua. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: assuming he comes back. Because if you lose, let's say

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Speaker 2: you go too and two, and they should take that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: They're not playing hard teams.

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Speaker 2: Now you're three and three, and then you gotta play

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Speaker 2: Buffalo in Buffalo. You can't beat Buffalo. Now you got

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Speaker 2: four losses.

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Speaker 3: Now lost the Bills at home. Yeah, and when it

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Speaker 3: was supposed.

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Speaker 2: To be hot, when you had them right where you

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Speaker 2: want them, Are you going to sweep the Jets? No?

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Speaker 3: Probably not, probably not. I bet New England gets one

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Speaker 3: off them. Yeah, I mean no, I think they're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the AFC in general, I think is much weaker

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Speaker 3: or much easier to get in that final seven than

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Speaker 3: I would have guessed by a thousand. I mean, no

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Speaker 3: one thought Baltimore and since you'd not have a win yet, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chargers don't scare me all of a sudden as they're

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Speaker 3: going to be a fourteen win team and be a juggernaut.

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Speaker 3: Denver and the Raiders aren't good. Denver definitely isn't good.

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Speaker 2: Denver's not good yet.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the South is good outside of Houston.

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Speaker 2: Does a lot.

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Speaker 3: Jets are sitting fine.

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Speaker 2: I mean we could we could be looking at the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We could be looking at three AFC North teams again

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm the Browns, I'm thinking things went

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Speaker 3: bad for us, but we're one on one, we could

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Speaker 3: be okay. You know if they were lost in Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: they oh yeah. I mean if the rest of the

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Speaker 3: division was oh too, and the Steelers two and oh,

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Speaker 3: I mean that would be.

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Speaker 2: We'd be having all kinds of different conversations right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, So that was a saver for them.

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Speaker 3: You know, It's kind of like the Packers getting a

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Speaker 3: win when you probably shouldn't, Like you steal one but

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Speaker 3: one in you Yeah, I go.

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Speaker 2: Home win, but yeah, Miami's in some trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If I'm like the Jets of the Browns, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we haven't played very well, but we'll be we got time,

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Speaker 3: We're not we're not dead yet. There's some teams that

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Speaker 3: are looking to circling the drain a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I just want to remind people the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have done what they've done with their backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and really the loser of Chargers, Steelers is

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Speaker 3: still fine in the picture, in the whole mathematical side

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, yeah, absolutely, let's get to a break

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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our number one of

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Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and

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Speaker 2: I'll be back with our number two right after this.

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