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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. Glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I am John Harris Hrost for this. That's Wednesday, but

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Speaker 1: it's in season, out of season. Wednesday is my day,

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Speaker 1: Monday is my day, and then Friday. I share with

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Speaker 1: the man to my right, the voice of Texans, Mark Vanni, remark,

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Speaker 1: are you Johnny? I'm great? You know, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: not letting him McCartney, right, but in the Texans radio

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Speaker 1: world we kind of are yeah in that you know,

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Speaker 1: we trade off singing lead, but we still harmonized together.

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Speaker 1: So okay, you're right about that letting McCartney. So is

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Speaker 1: George deepy or is George Drew? I think that I

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Speaker 1: would think George is deep and then Ringo is Drew. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a humor wise, Yes, I think that's the way. Now,

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Speaker 1: if we get it to the booth, you're George and

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Speaker 1: Andre and I are letting him and there is no Ringo.

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Speaker 1: But then again, George Harrison did go out and do

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Speaker 1: a nice solo album at some point. So Harrison wrote

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Speaker 1: a lot of good beatless too, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: know George had a great solo career. George was one

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Speaker 1: of he was probably the most respected. He was the

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Speaker 1: technician too, like and so this kind of plays into

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Speaker 1: your world a little bit. You know, you're the only

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Speaker 1: one of the three to have coached. That's right. So

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that I am George Harrison. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to You're still alive, that's important. That is important.

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Speaker 1: How many of beat is mccartey the only Ringo's alive too? Yeah, McCarney.

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Speaker 1: Still what's Ringo's been doing? He still tours a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think with Ringo's All Star Band. He puts together

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Speaker 1: a band of all stars. They go around. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool idea. So he's done some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff, and he's I believe he's older than the rest,

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Speaker 1: Although now it doesn't matter as much, but at the

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Speaker 1: time when he joined the band and he replaced Pete Best,

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Speaker 1: that's legendary. Oh my gosh, can I say something blasphemous?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. I was driving the other day and Sirius

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Speaker 1: xam in my wife's car. We had it on. I

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Speaker 1: was flipping the stations and I got to Channel eighteen,

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Speaker 1: which is the Beatles station. Yeah, and it came on

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Speaker 1: and it was on for a few sections that turn

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Speaker 1: it off and my daughter, who is fifteen, that's what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? I said, oh, listen to Beatles? Oh?

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Speaker 1: And she goes, what your daughter? I love her. I

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Speaker 1: was like, yes, whatever, even listen to something else. I

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Speaker 1: don't listen to Beatles. And she goes, Dad, I'm shocked,

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Speaker 1: and she was like shocked and a paul that I

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Speaker 1: did not want to listen to it? So great, It's

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Speaker 1: like good for her. She's a very old She's an

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Speaker 1: old soul. I mean, she canna hear that and think

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Speaker 1: that I'm calling it. She's an old soul. I mean

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Speaker 1: she she loves she she likes Beatles, which I was

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Speaker 1: I found out, but she loves the eighties, anything about

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Speaker 1: the eighties or seventies. She likes to dress and seventies clothes.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know who the Beatles of rap are,

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Speaker 1: in my opinions now, the straight out of competent guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it existed obviously, just like rock and

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Speaker 1: roll existed before the Beatles, but they took it to

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Speaker 1: a whole other level. And I think that's what the

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Speaker 1: NWA guys did. I could see that. That's a very

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Speaker 1: interesting demand. Another the Mots listening going no, y'all wrong?

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Speaker 1: The Beatles, I could. I think I'm right the game.

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Speaker 1: I think WA changed the game. There's no question, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I think I got this one. Although I'm no expert

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Speaker 1: in the field, trust me on this. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I know you have things to do, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to clean up one thing from yesterday. Okay, who's a

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Speaker 1: player from practice yesterday that I really enjoyed watching? And

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a good practice because the week

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Speaker 1: before I thought Sammy Coates was a highlight when they

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Speaker 1: were practicing in the bubble getting out of the heat.

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Speaker 1: They were outside yesterday and Braxton Miller had the kind

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Speaker 1: of practice that made it was one of those and

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Speaker 1: we talk about this with all our training camp shows.

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Speaker 1: One of those. I'm still here. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you guys haven't been talking about me enough. So here

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Speaker 1: I am catching a lot of balls today just to

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Speaker 1: make you notice that I'm still on the roster and

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Speaker 1: I will be reckoned with come Greenbrier time. He just

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Speaker 1: drew and I talked about it on the field. We're

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Speaker 1: talking and Braxton made it catching got a field in

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Speaker 1: dreda City man. He looks faster, and it's interesting when

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Speaker 1: you say that about it an NFL player, Well, he

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Speaker 1: looks faster because guys typically don't get faster in their careers.

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Speaker 1: If anything, ether, they're gonna lose a step in time.

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Speaker 1: But can you play faster? That's exactly right. That's the point.

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Speaker 1: He's playing much faster, and I think that's really that's

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Speaker 1: a field, then he's making people miss You're right, it's

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Speaker 1: don't forget about me, Braxton Miller. Well, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, Johnny, because we always say with him, all right,

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Speaker 1: he's learning the position. He wasn't a receiver original as

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Speaker 1: it as an NFL receiver. So we're all waiting for

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Speaker 1: this light to go on for lack of a better

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Speaker 1: way of putting it, and it really hasn't gone on.

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Speaker 1: Yet to the consistency level that you want to see clearly,

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Speaker 1: and he'd be the first to tell you that. But

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Speaker 1: is it possible And I'm not saying that it's happening,

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Speaker 1: but is it possible that the I could go on? Now?

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Speaker 1: Maybe the lights going on? Absolutely? I mean I think

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Speaker 1: over the years in the NFL, there have been players

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Speaker 1: you feel you feel challenged by that got Like you know,

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Speaker 1: Victor Cruz was a pretty good story with the Giants

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Speaker 1: and he's undrafted, but you know, as an undrafted player,

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Speaker 1: he made him plays in preseason camp, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: get himself on the roster. Then the next year, there's

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Speaker 1: some injuries there at the receiver position for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity and then he takes off with it.

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Speaker 1: So it can happen at any point. I think we

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Speaker 1: had such high expectations for Braxton coming in because he

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Speaker 1: was a known commodity, but we knew him as quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all Big Ten Player of the Year quarterback Braxt his

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Speaker 1: that touchdown pass. And I remember interviewing him after the game, thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he really starts to turn it around and become the

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Speaker 1: And then last year he got hurt in training camp,

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Speaker 1: But then you had such great play from Will and

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Speaker 1: have to go, No, I'm playing so well that you're

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Speaker 1: Qtiata here that Bruce is gonna have to step aside,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how natural Braxton as

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Speaker 1: third down, move DeAndre inside. Maybe that's where Braxton could

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Speaker 1: he lines. Yeah, he's he's done it, and he and

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Speaker 1: I've talked about that. I mean that same Raiders game

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Speaker 1: over and uh, he just goes, I was killing him

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Speaker 1: from slot tonight. I was like, I know, every time

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Speaker 1: being in there because that's I think what separates him

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Speaker 1: I mean I should be inside more often, but outside

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Speaker 1: I'm one of the best in the game. If not

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Speaker 1: so anywhere works absolutely no question. All right, Mark, we

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Speaker 1: slot position. You talked about Braxton being and this is

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Speaker 1: we'll do this segment down the road. The don't you

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Speaker 1: forget About Me? Was that? Simple? Minds that that don't

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Speaker 1: you forget about breakfast club? Yeah, minds, don't you forget

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Speaker 1: about me? I want to go subterranean favorite category. Those

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Speaker 1: players that are gonna fight for that fifty second and

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Speaker 1: fifty third spot on this roster that may not always

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Speaker 1: be active on Sunday, but man, they've got a chance.

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Speaker 1: Subterranean type guys that nobody is talking about, right, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: subterranean guy number one, go all right, Well his name

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Speaker 1: did come up a little bit, and that's Troymaine Pope,

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Speaker 1: the second year running back from Jacksonville State. Good one,

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of reps. And where's number thirty three? Folks?

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Speaker 1: So if you see him in the videos, the photos,

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Speaker 1: but you'll notice him. He does make plays in this contexture. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to send him to Orlando. But let's

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Speaker 1: just keep our eyes on him. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: two defensive backs that are worth watching, especially when we

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Speaker 1: get to the Greenbrier when the put on the pads

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Speaker 1: and everything. D virgin who's in his second year. And

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Speaker 1: obviously that's somebody that Anthony Mitchett we'll talk about. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's it, all right. Yeah, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the biggest change in your world? In the secondary world,

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Speaker 1: it feels like back when in the late nineties it

423
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Speaker 1: was there's cover one, two, three, four, maybe a few

424
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Speaker 1: hybrid covers maybe a little bit. Now it feels like

425
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Speaker 1: there's so much crazy stuff going on in the secondary

426
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Speaker 1: with coverages. How complex has it gotten? How much has

427
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Speaker 1: it changed from when you started playing till now? I

428
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: think the core is still the same, but there are

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Speaker 1: some change up in variations to those base you know,

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Speaker 1: the ones, the twos and the fours and all the

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Speaker 1: threes that you do that you try to mix in

432
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Speaker 1: and just give the quarterbacks a different look. How tough

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Speaker 1: is that when you're like Tom Brady, How tough is

434
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Speaker 1: that to go He's seen everything? I mean, is there

435
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Speaker 1: anything new and creative? I guess you can throw at

436
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Speaker 1: a quarterback like that. How tough is it to face

437
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 1: a guy like that that's seen everything? It's very tough.

438
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Speaker 1: You know, a guy has been playing a long time,

439
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of defenses. People have thrown a ton

440
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: of stuff at him, and he's been doing it for

441
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Speaker 1: a while that he puts in the time, and that

442
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Speaker 1: just put the pressure on us as a defense to

443
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Speaker 1: give him multiple looks to disguise and our coverage it

444
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Speaker 1: so we're not giving him the answers to the test

445
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Speaker 1: and still making him think on the run. Secondary coach

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Speaker 1: Jatha he Midge with us in the Hunday Texans radio studio. Okay,

447
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys here, d virgin entering year two

448
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Speaker 1: tell us about him a little bit. And Justin Reid

449
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: entering year one, the rookie from Stanford, MD, was with

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Speaker 1: us last year, was on the practice squad. Got a

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Speaker 1: chance to work with him because I worked with a

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Speaker 1: lot of the younger guys on last year. And he's

453
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Speaker 1: came and had a good offseason coming in every day.

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Speaker 1: He's a strong guy in the weight room, and also

455
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Speaker 1: you know, get him on the field and he's doing

456
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Speaker 1: a good job. You think he's had a good offseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm Justin Reid is a guy that we're excited about.

458
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Speaker 1: You know, good size, good athleticism adding to the position,

459
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Speaker 1: and he does a good job in the meeting room.

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Speaker 1: You know, he puts in the time. He's a football

461
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Speaker 1: he loves football and he studies and he puts in

462
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Speaker 1: the extra time. So I'm excited to see when we

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Speaker 1: put the pads on in camp and see him compete. Coach,

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Speaker 1: what about trusting Dayker guy? When you put the pads on,

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Speaker 1: it is is a pretty impressive looking guy. What about him

466
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Speaker 1: in his second year? Um, he's been having a good

467
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Speaker 1: offseason making the transition. You know over the safety has

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Speaker 1: some size, he has some length. And then we put

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Speaker 1: the pads on a camp. You know that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big deal for him, you know, being able to

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Speaker 1: show he's physically can hold up playing that position. I

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Speaker 1: remember having played the secondary way way a long long

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Speaker 1: time ago. I know you can't believe that, but I

474
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Speaker 1: remember my coach saying at the time, if you could

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Speaker 1: play corner, you could play safety. Is that axiom sort

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Speaker 1: of still true that if you could play a little

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Speaker 1: bit of corner that helps you playing safety. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if vice versus works, but how does it

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Speaker 1: help that he played corner but now he's moving back

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Speaker 1: to safety. I think it's good in a sense because

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Speaker 1: you take his athleticism from the corner position and put

482
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Speaker 1: it at the safety position, and it's a space game now.

483
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Speaker 1: How teams are putting space in your out, getting slot

484
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Speaker 1: receiver matched up on safety, so it should be a

485
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Speaker 1: benefit him playing corner. Yeah, it was just a box guy.

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Speaker 1: So that's old school. Yeah, that's old school. Yeah, we

487
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Speaker 1: don't have those guys. Don't that guy anywhere they are

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Speaker 1: will What about the mental aspect of being a defensive back,

489
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Speaker 1: whether it's corner or safety, and the ability They always say, mnies,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to forget the bad play, just

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Speaker 1: move on to the next I use the term fighter,

492
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Speaker 1: forget it, drive on. You know, things going to happen

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Speaker 1: back there. You know, the average fan probably won't see

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Speaker 1: the stuff that's going on up front, but anybody that

495
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Speaker 1: knows very little football can tell if a guy got

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Speaker 1: behind you or not. And it's times like that when

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Speaker 1: you give up a big play. We have to be

498
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Speaker 1: at our best to let it go and move on

499
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Speaker 1: to the next player, not let it affect us going forward.

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Speaker 1: And that's been a big emphasis we've put on this offseason,

501
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Speaker 1: just that we have a back play, just continue to

502
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Speaker 1: move on and continue to play. Coach, when you saw

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Speaker 1: de Shan last year and faced him in practice, did

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Speaker 1: you have any flashbacks to a certain left hander that

505
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Speaker 1: you used to play against in college, used to you

506
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Speaker 1: used to play with in college and should say yep,

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick, yea, you know the sean when he first

508
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Speaker 1: got here. The thing that I noticed, and even just

509
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Speaker 1: being a fan of college football and watching him just

510
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Speaker 1: no matter what the situation was the guy's poise and

511
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: he was always the same. It never got too big

512
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Speaker 1: for him. You could sit on the practice field with

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Speaker 1: his demeanor, his leadership, and guys just gravitate towards him

514
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Speaker 1: and that's what he's showing and continue to improval. What

515
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Speaker 1: was Vic like in practice? He was competitive And I

516
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Speaker 1: tell this story all the time, like um, when Vic

517
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Speaker 1: first was able because he read shirted his first ship

518
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Speaker 1: probably should have started as true freshman as soon as

519
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Speaker 1: he walked on campus. And the only guy can catch

520
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Speaker 1: his ball with the guy that was on scout team

521
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Speaker 1: with him because he had a seed man. It was

522
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Speaker 1: a strong arm. Yeah, but good teammate, yea electric one

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Speaker 1: more for you. We always talk about the tightness of

524
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Speaker 1: the group's offensive line, defensive backs. Why defensive backs, what's

525
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Speaker 1: your what's your pitch here for being the tightest position group.

526
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: It's just that brotherhood when you walk in, because we're

527
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Speaker 1: always communic kayton with each other, around each other, and

528
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Speaker 1: that's what we got to do on the field with constantly.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing as the Old line because every

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Speaker 1: every play, those guys have to communicate and they have

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Speaker 1: to be tight. So those guys hanging together off the

532
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: field in the classroom just doing a good job. So

533
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Speaker 1: the DBS, we're all tight. Given the love to the

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Speaker 1: old Line, like a coach would, thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: They're a secondary coach. Anthony Midget in his first year

536
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Speaker 1: as the guy in the secondary, but he has a

537
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Speaker 1: lot of knowledge of this team having been here since

538
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien got here in twenty fourteen. I think he

539
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Speaker 1: is going to be great for the secondary having been

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Speaker 1: a guy that played in the league. These players respect him,

541
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Speaker 1: they know him. But that's a really competitive bunch and

542
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: they're learning every single day. And I see the DBS

543
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Speaker 1: every day in the hallway and I see Aaron Colvin

544
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Speaker 1: with Tyra Matthew. I see j Joe with Aaron Colvin.

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Speaker 1: I see Kevin Johnson and Tyra Matthew all talking, all

546
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Speaker 1: communicating after coming out of meetings. It's really great to

547
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Speaker 1: see because of all the units on this team we

548
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: talked about, there's been so much change, but it's also

549
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: a group that a can benefit from all the change,

550
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Speaker 1: especially if guys are healthy upfront, because they can turn

551
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Speaker 1: teams over. Guys like Tyron Matthew Aaron Colvin, they can

552
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: be ballhawks, turning the ball back over to the offense,

553
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: and this is obviously an offense you want to have

554
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Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. So this secondary is

555
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna look completely different. One of the things I've noticed

556
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: about OTAs nothing ever looks the same from one day

557
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: to the next, from one drive to the next, one

558
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: drill to the next. We're thinking the secondary looks a

559
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: little bit different. These four players, these five players out

560
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: this time, these five out the next time. This mix

561
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Speaker 1: maybe the same five guys, different spots. The secondary looks

562
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Speaker 1: completely different than it has previously, and I'm very curious

563
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Speaker 1: to see how it's going to all come together. But

564
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Speaker 1: at least we know the pieces. As I mentioned Justin Reid,

565
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Speaker 1: Jermaine Kelly Junior added Tyrn Colvin, Johnson Batamosi, and Tyron

566
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Speaker 1: Matthew all added to that mix, and then of course

567
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Speaker 1: the man right there leading to the the group is Anthony Midget.

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Speaker 1: All right, Drew Doherty's gonna stop by. It's time for

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Speaker 1: two to go. I'll explain what that means next Right

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Speaker 1: here in Texans All Access one final segment of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm John

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Speaker 1: Harris right here with Drew Doherty, and today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do something called two to go, all right, and what

574
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Speaker 1: that means is we've got categories. We got four different categories,

575
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Speaker 1: and we probably could do more, but we're gonna do

576
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Speaker 1: that just because we want to keep this to oh,

577
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Speaker 1: I don't know a reasonable listening experience of time. All right,

578
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: we want to go two further. So we've come with

579
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Speaker 1: categories and our two to go one for Drew. One

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Speaker 1: from me as a pertains to the twenty eighteen Texans,

581
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Speaker 1: because we've had a chance to see them out of

582
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Speaker 1: OTA's a couple times, a couple times, three times now

583
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Speaker 1: and they're going into mandatory mini camp next week and

584
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: then they're gone, and next time we're gonna see these

585
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: guys is gonna be up in West Virginia training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's almost here. As I said to Mark yesterday.

587
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Speaker 1: Drew training camp is next month, which is wild to

588
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Speaker 1: think about. Well, it's upon it, so figured we need

589
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: two to go and a lot of the names that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear today. You're not gonna hear DeAndre Hopkins,

591
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna hear Jadeveon Clowney Watson, You're not gonna

592
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Speaker 1: hear those type names because everybody knows those type names.

593
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: We need to impart to you some names that wow, Okay,

594
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that guy, yep. And we'll start

595
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Speaker 1: with number one for two to go, one from one

596
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: from me, one from Drew. Drew go first. The player

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00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: that could impact twenty eighteen more than you expected heading

598
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Speaker 1: into OTAs. I got it, okay, And it's probably a

599
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: guy that you should have thought anyway, or I should

600
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: have thought anyway. But I've been very impressed with what

601
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Speaker 1: I've seen from him. I'm gonna go with Zach Fulton.

602
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: He was signed in the offseason. He's one of the

603
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. He's brought in from the Chiefs, and he's

604
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: been playing center during OTAs. Now, Nick Martin was your

605
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: center last year, did a pretty good job till things

606
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: went south healthwise for him. But Zack Fulton can play

607
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: guard as well, But does he play center well enough

608
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Speaker 1: now that it's it, lets you move Nick Martin to

609
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Speaker 1: guard or does Nick Martin slide back in and you

610
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: got Fulton at center. But I've just been very, very

611
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Speaker 1: impressed with a leadership, his versatility and what he can

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Speaker 1: do to this line, because I think you've really bolstered

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Speaker 1: the inside guard center guard part of your line no

614
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Speaker 1: matter where you wind up playing this guy, and that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal because you really struggled there at times

616
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, excuse me, in twenty seventeen, even when

617
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Speaker 1: you were winning in that earlier part of the season.

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Speaker 1: But Zach Fulton is a guy that I've really been

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Speaker 1: impressed with what he's had to do because just by

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Speaker 1: virtue of playing center, you are a leader on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. You have to have a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: as far as, uh, you know, getting guys in the

623
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Speaker 1: right spot, recognizing defenses. So I like what I've seen

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Speaker 1: from Zack Fulton. I for mine, I'm gonna go maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit off the page. Yeah, and I know

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Speaker 1: mine wasn't because it's a guy you brought in expecting.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't think the general public really knew

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Speaker 1: too much or thought too much of Fulton when he

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Speaker 1: was signed. I think if there is a position defensively

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Speaker 1: where I don't want to say Texas, Texans don't have

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Speaker 1: these type players, and I've argued in the past and

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Speaker 1: I still believe this, that outside linebacker is a spot

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Speaker 1: where Okay, Winnie Mersill's out outside linebacker and Brent Scarlett's

634
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Speaker 1: out of outside linebacker, but who else. Now, the Texans

635
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: don't play the base defense all that much, and so

636
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's with with j D and

637
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: JJ and then Reader and those four all play up front.

638
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: They'll play two linebackers Zack and Zach and b Mac

639
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: and then they'll play a Nickell behind it, or'll play

640
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: dime and take one linebackers off or DJ off or

641
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. So the point being is,

642
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that depth issues at outside linebacker end

643
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: up being as big a deal as maybe they would

644
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: be in a normal situation. By normal, I mean you're

645
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: playing your base defense fifty sixty seventy percent at a time,

646
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and now you're playing your base defense probably thirty to

647
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: thirty five percent at a time. That's said, I think

648
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: LaTroy Lewis is a guy to watch at outside linebacker.

649
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: He was brought in the middle of the last year

650
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: he was he was well. He's brought out the beginning

651
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: of the year and they put him on a practice

652
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: squad and then at the end of the year he

653
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to get on to fifty three. He

654
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: had a really good camp with Oakland, but wasn't able

655
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to crack it. They had Bruce Servan, they had Khalil Mack.

656
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: They just really didn't have room for him. He comes

657
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: here and I was a big fan of his at Tennessee. Again,

658
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: a guy, and I've said this many times, I love

659
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: guys that wear single digit or low digit numbers because

660
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: they're athletes in college. In college can't do it in

661
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: the NFL because of the number rules they have. But

662
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: in college were number four and I that always caught

663
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: my attention, and I thought he rushed very well. I

664
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: thought he was a solid player come out of Tennessee

665
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: and with some time he could turn into something. And

666
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: just watching him here, I feel like he's got when

667
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: the pads go on, he's got an opportunity to really

668
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: insert himself into that mix with Scarlett, with merciless because

669
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: of the way that he can rush the quarterer. It's

670
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: a good one. I don't think many people know that name.

671
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: He's wearing number fifty four now he's not wearing single digits,

672
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: but that's a good one. So we went with Zach

673
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Fulton as me offensive lineman and he went with LaTroy

674
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Lewis as far as guys you are going to probably

675
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: impact the team that you didn't think too much of before.

676
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: Okay too, to go second category. Mark you likes to

677
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: use his term subterranean guys guys that are like, well,

678
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: well under the radar, not just under the radar. Subterraney

679
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: means under the earth. Yeah, like way, way, way, like

680
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about. And these guys are typically guys

681
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: that are maybe even struggling to get on the bubble.

682
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: But you get him to the bubble, well you never

683
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: know what might happen to them. And they've got a chance.

684
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: They got a chance, small chance, they got a chance.

685
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Drew yours is you know, by what you just described,

686
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe my guy is closer to terranean than Subtraine. I

687
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: still think he's under the radar, but I've been really

688
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: impressed with Matt Lingle he's a tight end Texans brought in.

689
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: He's he's got a little bit of experience in the league,

690
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: but he's still a young guy. But it seems like

691
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: every time I look up, he's catching a pass, he's

692
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: getting open. He's got a kind of range your body,

693
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: so he looks like he'll be a matchup problem for

694
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: some shorter corners or safeties if you put him out there.

695
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: But he's just when he's his number has been called,

696
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: he's made plays, he's been in the Patriots system, caught

697
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: a touchdown from Tom Brady. So I just kind of

698
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: think he the two rookie Jordan's at tight end, Aikins

699
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: and Thomas, as well as Anderson and Griffin, they're they're

700
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna make it really tough for this coaching staff to

701
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: have to whittle down that tight end position. I think

702
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: ling is is definitely making it really really hard there. Yeah,

703
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: I agree with you wholeheartedly. My guy is a running back.

704
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: And it's funny because at the second oha I remember

705
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: watching him thinking, boy, he's pocket dynamite man, holy smokes,

706
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: And I made a note. And then that Friday, Bill

707
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: O'Brian was on with Triple Threat on a Sports Radio

708
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: six ten and he mentioned this guy. They were asking

709
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: him about some kind of under the radar guys and

710
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: he mentioned this guy, and I was like, dad, gumm it.

711
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know whether I should feel good about the

712
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: fact that I was right on, right on lockstep with

713
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, but I sort of was on this one

714
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: because Tremaine Pope has been really, really good. Now again,

715
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: you're watching guys that have they're not they don't have

716
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: the pads on your running backs are not having a

717
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: breakthrough tackles. But you can see him catch the football.

718
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: He's the menu, He's he's a he's short, I should say,

719
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: but he is strong. You look at him, he has

720
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: built like a brick house and he just pinballs. Just

721
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: watching him in college and seeing different things, watching him

722
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: in in preseason and seeing some of the highlights from

723
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: other teams. He just bounces off guys. I mean, he's

724
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: got a thick lower trunk. I there's a good up

725
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: and he got a lot of reps this last OTA

726
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: in particular, And so Tremaine Pope is going to be

727
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: my subterranean guy. John, you and I were standing by

728
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: each other on Tuesday at the OTA practice and I'm

729
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: not gonna say which defender he did this too. Oh,

730
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: but Pope broke a guy's knees in a It was

731
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: a special team's drill where he gets the ball and

732
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: the defender has to try and basically touch him. You know.

733
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: It's it's like two hand touch because I don't tackle here.

734
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: But he put a move on this guy and the

735
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: guy fell down, and it was really really impressive it.

736
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was like, I mean the whole you had

737
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: lots of oh around the practice field when they saw it.

738
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like that Troy Maine Pope. He's making

739
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: plays June. But he's making plays when he really needs

740
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: to and should when he's getting his chances here in

741
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: OTA's all right, category three and R two to go.

742
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: It just says rookies, Huh, rookies, you get first head

743
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: and shoulders. Uh, at least on the offensive side of

744
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: the ball. I've he stood above everybody else rookie wise,

745
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: I've thought, with Jordan Nakins coming a close second, Kiki

746
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: qt Man, I've really really been impressed with him because

747
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I you know, I covered Texas Tech for four years

748
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: and I saw those guys and a lot of them.

749
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: With the exception of Amndola and Crabtree and Welder, a

750
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of those receivers really didn't make it in the pros.

751
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Then you know they didn't succeed. But until I kind

752
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: of thought, well, it might take a while for Kiki QT.

753
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: This guy in addition to all the explosiveness and the speed,

754
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: this guy's got really good hands. John. I saw him

755
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: just kind of paw one out of the air a

756
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: bullet from Brandon Whedon a couple of weeks ago that

757
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: was at maybe seven yards I was almost point blank range,

758
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: just snagged it like DeAndre Hopkins would. I was very,

759
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: very impressed, and Hopkins has said how impressive this guy

760
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: is not just on the field, but picking Hopkins brain

761
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: in between plays in the meeting room. We heard the

762
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: same from John Perry, the wide receivers coach, yesterday. Kiki QT,

763
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I think is gonna have a lot to say as

764
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: far as playing time and production in the twenty eighteen offense.

765
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the two Jordans calls two to go.

766
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two George Jordan Thomas Jordan Nakins,

767
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the two tight ends. Those two guys have gotten a

768
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: ton of reps and OTAs and I really have loved

769
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: watching what they're doing. They're they've caught the ball all

770
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: over the field. Yeah, I'm talking flat routes, deep routes,

771
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: intermediate routes all over the field. And I think it's

772
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: gonna be that way. And you mentioned a little while

773
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: ago Matton Legal with Lengo and the two Jordans, and

774
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: with Jevanni Robinson, who I think you become a our

775
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: argument for him being a sub training guy, form basketball

776
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: player who's on practice squad last year trying to develop

777
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: into a big time tight end. These tight ends, it's

778
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a really difficult task where Tim Kelly and

779
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: his offensive staff to kind of whittle it down. He's

780
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: still Griffin Steven Stephen Anderson was the guy that led

781
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: you in catches and yards last year, and we went

782
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: in and this is why I told people, Look, you

783
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: just gotta let the off season play out because you

784
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: lost c J. Fed Orwitz and that was a big

785
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: loss figuratively and literally big loss for this team. But

786
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: then you added Lengal through the waiver process. You claimed

787
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: him off waivers and he, like you said, has been

788
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: a big surprise. You had Javanni Robinson here, but you

789
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: really know what he could do because you got him

790
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: kind of late in the process. And then you add

791
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: the two Jordans to this. You completely revamped that tight

792
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: end that tight end room. But yeah, you still have

793
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't say the two old standbys, but you got

794
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: two stand bys and Ryan Griffin and absolutely so I'm

795
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna go with the two Jordan's as my rookies, all right,

796
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Last one, two to go. This doesn't have to be

797
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a player. It could be a player that we haven't mentioned. Yeah,

798
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: it can be something that happened at OTAs. But the

799
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: last one, two to go things that have caught your

800
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: attention mine is not player related. Do you have one?

801
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: This can? This can run the game. It might be

802
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: stealing yours. I didn't look, but you and I were

803
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: standing by each other a practice quite a bit yesterday.

804
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: And these new kickoff rules have changed the way. Okay,

805
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: well you don't, let's go if you'll expand on it.

806
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: And I've got like a little one b okay, but

807
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: that's totally unrelated. But the kickoff rules, the way you're

808
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: seeing the Texans align themselves on kickoffs is different than

809
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. Now it might have that

810
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: was probably gonna be the case anyway, because you have

811
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: a new coordinator in Brad Seeley, and he's been around

812
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: the block, he's seen things. He's had success in the

813
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: NFL for decades. But because you can't get the run

814
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: up that you normally did, you're seeing them deployed on

815
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: that line in front of the kicker, right at where

816
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the ball is, right where the ball is, So you're

817
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: seeing them deployed a lot differently. I still don't know

818
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: how this is going to affect, but you and I

819
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: kind of kicked it around yesterday. It looks like initially,

820
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: maybe what's going to happen is there's not gonna be

821
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the depth of defenders, meaning there's a wave at first

822
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: and there's a second wave. It looks like they're gonna

823
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: be more spread out horizontally than anything. It's one wave

824
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: that's wider as opposed to two more narrow waves or

825
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: even three narrow waves like they're used to be. Now,

826
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: put your mental asterisk by all this because it's June. Okay,

827
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: we don't know how, but it certainly is going to

828
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: affect things. I think, and I think in a major way.

829
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: On kickoffs. I think it's gonna be more fun to watch.

830
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: It was interesting talking to Especial Teams coordinator Brad Celley

831
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: about this because this really, this really is when they

832
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: changed when they changed the extra point rule, that was

833
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: just you're kicking it from there to there. The only

834
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: real strategy element to it was, well do you want

835
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: to just go for two versus going for one? And

836
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: most teams had default to do going for one because

837
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: they know their kicker can kick a thirty two yard

838
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: field goal. That's essentially what it is. I think this

839
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: has the opportunity with kickoffs to be a seat change

840
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: for a number of different reasons. You're in coach. See

841
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: he said this yesterday to us. During the first few weeks,

842
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna see teams do things and you're gonna go, WHOA,

843
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that, haven't thought of that, And so

844
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: that I think is gonna put it's gonna put a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Brad and Tracy Smith, the two

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Speaker 1: Special Teams coaches, to try and come up with some

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Speaker 1: unique things to watch during preseason to see what teams

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Speaker 1: are doing. Are they're doing anything a little different than

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Speaker 1: the way you're doing it, Are there tweaks that you

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Speaker 1: can look at and go, oh, okay, I think we

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Speaker 1: can do this. I think and he made a great comment.

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Speaker 1: He said, the first three weeks, in the last three

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Speaker 1: weeks of special teams can always be really difficult because

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Speaker 1: you go from preseason when you get a lot of

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Speaker 1: different players that are fighting ferasco spots or doing it

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Speaker 1: through special teams. But then you get to the season

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Speaker 1: and now you got a bunch of new special teams guys,

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Speaker 1: because it's guys that that we're you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the roster. Those other guys got cut, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And so the first three weeks you're gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: Then you throw this on top of it. I think

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Speaker 1: the first few weeks of Special Teams are gonna be

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Speaker 1: really intriguing. I don't look good or bad, but very intriguing,

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Speaker 1: like where do we go with this? Like what's it

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Speaker 1: gonna be? So I'm really curious to see how that

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Speaker 1: all goes. But that's that's definitely. One thing that has

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Speaker 1: uh stood out to me was definitely that you said

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Speaker 1: you had Famba Kamalu looks a lot slimmer, trimmer and

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Speaker 1: smelter and quicker than he did last year, not that

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Speaker 1: he was slow by any gains, but just he was bigger.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna move him around. I wonder what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do this year. And I talked to coach mcgano

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Speaker 1: a little bit about him, and he said it's all

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Speaker 1: about consistency and the efforts all there. He just has

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Speaker 1: to keep putting it together. The weights on the roster

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Speaker 1: when you see them, there's no way he's too He's not.

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Speaker 1: There's no way he's listening. Was not three hundred last year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no way. He was mentioned many times. He's not

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Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. Yeah, he's probably in the good two

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Speaker 1: seventy five. I joy that. Yeah, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: wear it well. I mean it's yeah, he's he's wearing

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Speaker 1: it well. I mean, I'm sure I was two seventy

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Speaker 1: five at one point. My fat life six five six.

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Speaker 1: It says six six. Yeah. Height I would definitely go

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Speaker 1: with because I just I want to see what you

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Speaker 1: brought up with LaTroy Lewis earlier as far as maybe

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Speaker 1: being a guy that impacts his roster is up one

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Speaker 1: of those guys. I want to see what Kamalu does

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Speaker 1: because during the preseason last year, he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was going to be able to do some things for you,

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Speaker 1: no question, you fault. Mccamala is going to be somebody

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Speaker 1: that we keep our eyes on as we go to

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Speaker 1: training camp. And big thanks to Mark, to Drew the

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Speaker 1: Anthony Midget for stopping by. I really appreciate you guys listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texan.