Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. And it is week two
Speaker 1: of Taylor Gate. I thought, you know, this story might
Speaker 1: kind of just go off into the ether. But last
Speaker 1: night we're taping this on Monday. It is Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Taylor.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm Sunday Night Taylor. It is Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: at New York to see the Kansas City Chiefs and
Speaker 1: of course Travis Kelcey play the New York Jets. And
Speaker 1: the entire broadcast started off with Taylor Swift talking about
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. We go to the sideline reporter to talk
Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift. It is her walking into the game.
Speaker 1: It is a huge, huge deal.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I did not think it was just going
Speaker 2: to go away, but I thought it can go one
Speaker 2: of two ways. If they're really starting to kind of
Speaker 2: date each other, then she's going to be at this game,
Speaker 2: and she's going to be at subsequent games, and they're
Speaker 2: going to totally play into this. If it was just
Speaker 2: a one time publicity thing and they were kind of
Speaker 2: given the fans a little show and both capitalizing on it,
Speaker 2: but you know, all in good fun. Then it would
Speaker 2: have been a one off. So now I think it's
Speaker 2: real and they're really starting to date.
Speaker 1: Well, I just thought, Taylor Swift is a busy woman,
Speaker 1: and you know, she's.
Speaker 2: Taking a break right now before the world stops of
Speaker 2: her tour, before the internationaliste.
Speaker 1: You know how it is when you are the most influential,
Speaker 1: the most famous woman in the world. Even though you're
Speaker 1: on a break, you're not on a break. She's doing
Speaker 1: a million things, probably shooting commercials and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I just figured, is she going to have time
Speaker 1: to go to New York and show up at a games?
Speaker 2: What's a better commercial? I know, for her upcoming theatrical
Speaker 2: release of her documentary and for her world tour stops.
Speaker 2: What's better press? Then? Isn't Sunday Night Football the biggest
Speaker 2: television event period.
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football is huge, The ratings are massive.
Speaker 2: It has ever beat Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 1: It involved the biggest network market in the world, New
Speaker 1: York City. She's in the big Apple. Obviously, she has
Speaker 1: a song, so it worked out perfect.
Speaker 2: Welcome to New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Welcome to New York, Taylor Swift. And so here's
Speaker 1: the thing about the size the scope of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: And I know, look, I got both sides of the coin.
Speaker 1: People are like, I'm so done with this. I don't care.
Speaker 1: But here's the fascinating thing to me. Lots of celebrities,
Speaker 1: tons of celebrities go to football games every week. Blake Lively,
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds, and Hugh Jackman show up to this game.
Speaker 1: I know they're with Taylor, but if they had just
Speaker 1: shown up, I don't think anyone would have ever known.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Nobody would care.
Speaker 2: You might hear about it, like on the team's accounts,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is cut away whatever, but the fact
Speaker 1: that Taylor's Swift is overshadowing it is. It's why, honestly,
Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bachelorette worked for twenty years, and it never
Speaker 1: goes away. We have an insatiable appetite for all things love.
Speaker 1: When we used to like Harry and Megan, Remember when
Speaker 1: the world really liked Harry and Meghan.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I missed those days. It was a
Speaker 2: positive time.
Speaker 1: Remember when they But when we all believed in this
Speaker 1: love story and she's becoming a process.
Speaker 2: The actress becoming a royal. Yes, it was beautiful America
Speaker 2: and Britain reuniting is yes, before.
Speaker 1: We kind of found out what they were really like
Speaker 1: and we were like scratching our head, going, what who
Speaker 1: are these people? That we had this insatiable appetite to
Speaker 1: devour this love story, this romance. You flew to London
Speaker 1: for this, I mean it changed everything.
Speaker 2: To clarify, I was covering the royal wedding. I wasn't
Speaker 2: like a stalker.
Speaker 1: No, no, that's what I mean for entertainment tonight. But I
Speaker 1: mean that's the attention it drew. So we have this
Speaker 1: appetite for all things love. So I think deep down
Speaker 1: we are all hopeful for a great love story, and
Speaker 1: the theater of it all has drawn us in. Whether
Speaker 1: you're male, female, young, old, football, non football, this transcends
Speaker 1: all that because it goes back to the core thing
Speaker 1: we all desire love, a great love story.
Speaker 2: It's a love story. Maybe just say yes that's a
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift song. No I got that? Yeah, No, Look
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, and who better to speak
Speaker 2: on this topic than you. You sold love and I
Speaker 2: don't mean that in a like a gross way, but
Speaker 2: people want to buy it. For twenty years he was
Speaker 2: a p It's okay, And now I will give you
Speaker 2: one caveat on that though. Yes, this is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: That's also why this is so big. I mean, Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift is the biggest star in the world right now.
Speaker 2: And if it was, say, let's go back to your
Speaker 2: example thing, don't okay. Taylor Swift also had Sabrina Carpenter,
Speaker 2: that was another friend of hers in the stands with
Speaker 2: her last night, and she I believe a single right now.
Speaker 2: If Sabrina Carpenter, who has tens of millions of followers,
Speaker 2: who's a famous singer, actress, but if she was in
Speaker 2: the stands for dating a football player.
Speaker 1: Dating traveler for the Jets, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: Of course it wouldn't be on this level. This is love, yes,
Speaker 2: but it's also Taylor Swift. And you kind of got
Speaker 2: a little You got some heat last night on Instagram
Speaker 2: A little I didn't get you. You got some back
Speaker 2: and forth, yeah, because you know, I mean not you
Speaker 2: were I mean you were getting into a theater.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, my I want to believe in this.
Speaker 1: You know me. I love love and I'm and I
Speaker 1: love Taylor Swift. I'm a big Swift ye. I love
Speaker 1: this story. I do. I love the theater of it all,
Speaker 1: and I love the love story that I'm hopeful for.
Speaker 1: When I saw Taylor and they did the typical cutaway
Speaker 1: and they rolled, Mike Turrico mentions this, so this is
Speaker 1: clearly scripted and set up. Mike Ico sets this up
Speaker 1: with a cutaway going to commercial break. They rolled right
Speaker 1: in to an era's tour movie promo. So clearly Okay,
Speaker 1: well let me stop there, because when I kind of
Speaker 1: caught heat, people were coming at me saying, oh, you
Speaker 1: think Taylor Swift needs promo? You think she needs the publicity.
Speaker 1: I got this comment because you. So this is a
Speaker 1: direct message from Let's see who is this from. This
Speaker 1: is from Sally who says she doesn't need the promotion
Speaker 1: of her new movie. Are you kidding me that you
Speaker 1: don't comprehend how big of a following she has. She
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't need to go to the NFL to promote
Speaker 1: her new movie. It's sold out in most theaters the
Speaker 1: first two days of showings. Sally, I understand how big
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is. I get it. She is the most
Speaker 1: famous person in the world, but that doesn't negate the
Speaker 1: fact the promo ran on Sunday night football. I'm not
Speaker 1: making this up. I'm not saying I wonder if they
Speaker 1: thought about it. I saw the promo. They ran an advertisement.
Speaker 1: Somebody paid to have that commercial run after a cutaway
Speaker 1: of Taylor Switzer.
Speaker 2: And Taylor and her family have financed this movie privately
Speaker 2: on their own, So the only person paying for promo
Speaker 2: of the movie is Taylor. This isn't a studio.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's distributing the.
Speaker 2: They did a direct deal with theaters and her family did,
Speaker 2: so they have to be clear. It is a special case.
Speaker 2: They have gone completely outside the traditional route of creating
Speaker 2: and promoting a movie. Studios are not involved. Taylor. Her
Speaker 2: dad negotiated these deals. He's a finance guy. They financed
Speaker 2: the movie themselves, and they did a direct deal with theaters.
Speaker 1: So someone either her or on her team, said hey,
Speaker 1: let's take advantage of this. Now. Is that a bad thing? No,
Speaker 1: it's not. Can two things be true at once? And
Speaker 1: that is my main point today, Yes, two things can
Speaker 1: very much be true. She could be having the time
Speaker 1: of her life. She could be finding new love and
Speaker 1: I think that's where this is. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: in love yet. This is flirty and fun. And the
Speaker 1: way she was kind of talking to Blake Lively at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, it was like kind of
Speaker 1: two high school girls crushing on a boy and it
Speaker 1: was really cute. But two things can be true at once.
Speaker 1: She can be savvy as hell, which she is and say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's run a promo for the Eras Tour movie. So
Speaker 1: to those swifty fans that are immediately defensive of don't
Speaker 1: come at me with this. The commercial ran, it ran twice.
Speaker 1: They then went to a big time square shot of
Speaker 1: the Eras movie. So they're promoting it, which is wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's smart, and I think Taylor Swift or someone on
Speaker 1: our team said, Hey, the NFL is for sure taking
Speaker 1: advantage of us. They're promoting the crap out of you
Speaker 1: being there. How about we do the same.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you one hundred percent? And I would point
Speaker 2: out what's the most storied brand drink brand in America?
Speaker 1: Coke?
Speaker 2: Coke Coke. We learned about this when I was in
Speaker 2: advertising classes in journalism school, we learned about coke because
Speaker 2: Coke has like the most well known Maybe Coke and
Speaker 2: Nike have the most applauded ad campaigns in the history
Speaker 2: of American brands. Coca Cola never stops advertising. You see
Speaker 2: commercials for Coca Cola, and that's part of their secret
Speaker 2: and why they've maintained their success for so long, because
Speaker 2: everybody knows what a coke is. You grow up knowing coke,
Speaker 2: but you still see commercials, and that's part of it.
Speaker 2: It's if you feed it, it grows. The machine keeps going,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Think images in your mind of what coke means.
Speaker 2: Yes, Taylor's being very smart right now. She's she knows.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that's another thing swifty fans should know.
Speaker 2: What Swifty fans all say is nothing by accident. So
Speaker 2: if you think that Taylor's not doing anything by accident,
Speaker 2: which I agree she isn't, she's brilliant. Yes, if you
Speaker 2: think that Taylor Swift plans everything, I mean she says
Speaker 2: that in her songs. Her lyrics say, you know, nothing
Speaker 2: is by accident. I do this, I write lists, I
Speaker 2: plan it all. Well, then of course she's planning all this,
Speaker 2: and like you said two things can be true. I
Speaker 2: think probably Travis Kelsey had rather adorably pursued her publicly.
Speaker 2: Taylor thought, hey, you know, okay, I'll give this guy
Speaker 2: a try and see what there it goes, and then
Speaker 2: maybe it's growing into something real now and maybe also,
Speaker 2: of course they should both take advantage of it. Of course,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you. The thing is he he is guarantee
Speaker 2: like like they actually kind of can't be too private
Speaker 2: with this. I think because he's in the middle of
Speaker 2: a season, he's gonna be on television. If you want
Speaker 2: to go support him, you gotta go to the game,
Speaker 2: So it's sort of a little bit unavoidable unless they
Speaker 2: want to totally take this into dark corners. But I
Speaker 2: think Taylor with Joe Alwin, I think that whole relationship
Speaker 2: was in dark corners, right, And maybe she's sick of that.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's like, you know what, I just want to
Speaker 2: have fun.
Speaker 1: I want to live out loud. Yeah, and she has
Speaker 1: somebody who can live out loud with her. Yes, he
Speaker 1: can embrace this. It's not going to tarnish his career,
Speaker 1: his life.
Speaker 2: She's trying something new here. She's done the I'm dating
Speaker 2: actors and singers. In fact, that's all she's ever done,
Speaker 2: and she's dated people in her industry. She's trying something new,
Speaker 2: she's having fun, she's totally embracing it, bringing a bunch
Speaker 2: of her best friends to the game having a good time.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I listen. Also, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to be judgmental or anything, but the fact is Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift has had only breakups up till this point. So
Speaker 2: try something new. Maybe this new VI's work out.
Speaker 1: I used to say that when people came on The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: you've tried everything up to this point. Let's try somebody new.
Speaker 1: Let's try something new, break out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: And I applaud Taylor because whatever is behind this, whatever's
Speaker 1: going on, she is trying something new. And I think
Speaker 1: that's always healthy in life to kind of shake the
Speaker 1: snow globe up a little bit. And I love the
Speaker 1: residual bounce, you know. The Travis Kelcey of at All
Speaker 1: people Come, you know, came at me and my direct
Speaker 1: message of saying, well, nobody's talking about Travis kelce and
Speaker 1: how he's benefiting. Of course he is. Everybody's talking about this.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey is on this train as well.
Speaker 2: Totally. He had commercials in there or whatever brands he's
Speaker 2: working with, they bought more ads because he's having a moment.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: They went from Travis Kelce catching a ball last night
Speaker 1: to a Taylor Swift cutaway to a commercial break that
Speaker 1: two of the commercials had Travis Kelce in them.
Speaker 2: And he knows what he's doing. At that first game,
Speaker 2: he wore the nineteen eighty nine matching jeans and jacket
Speaker 2: suit thing.
Speaker 1: Nothing is on accident, as you said. And by the way,
Speaker 1: he might even be calling Taylor saying, hey, tell me
Speaker 1: what I should be doing, because you are the marketing genius.
Speaker 1: And so now he is benefiting. Of course he's benefiting
Speaker 1: his mom. Donna is benefiting his mom. Donna was great.
Speaker 2: Look, I'll admit it, I'll own it. I am no
Speaker 2: sports fan. For the first time in my life, I
Speaker 2: sat down to watch a football game on television. That
Speaker 2: is the power of Taylor Swift. Yeah, and what was
Speaker 2: a little upsetting. And I spoke about this on Instagram
Speaker 2: and many of you seem to relate. Now, I thought
Speaker 2: they showed Taylor Swift very little, but you, as a
Speaker 2: sports fan, seem to think they showed her quite a lot.
Speaker 2: Do you think sports fans felt like it was too much?
Speaker 2: Are they annoyed? I'm in the camp of give the
Speaker 2: people what they want. I have only tuned in for Taylor.
Speaker 2: Your ratings are spiking because I'm tuning in for Taylor.
Speaker 1: I think they did a good job. I thought they
Speaker 1: hit a nice balance. Turned out to be a damn
Speaker 1: good football game, so they had to and they did
Speaker 1: a good job.
Speaker 2: So they actually had to cover the game right.
Speaker 1: They actually had to go. I think they were going
Speaker 1: to probably lean on Taylor more, but then the game
Speaker 1: turned out to be good, so they leaned back into
Speaker 1: the game, and at that point you can't go always
Speaker 1: back to Taylor. I think they could have actually done more.
Speaker 1: I think early on they could have done more. They
Speaker 1: could have hung on those shots a little more. Everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to see who else was in the suite. I
Speaker 1: mean her with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds right there,
Speaker 1: Brittany Mahomes was there. That's the quarterback's wife.
Speaker 2: Ryan brought.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman, and Hugh Jackman is there.
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman freshly single, sad story, I mean they had
Speaker 2: a long marriage. That makes me upset, but you looking good?
Speaker 1: Is Hugh there also looking for love?
Speaker 2: Sophie Turner was there? I mean Taylor has again. She
Speaker 2: tells us what to think in her song lyrics. She
Speaker 2: says me a picture me with your ex wife in
Speaker 2: one of her songs, Sophie Turner Joe Jonas's ex. They
Speaker 2: have been thick as thieves as of late. Loved that
Speaker 2: she brought Sophie. She had a whole crew there. What
Speaker 2: I think they should have done they had to know
Speaker 2: and the NFL overall has been really smart about this,
Speaker 2: like using their Twitter accounts saying NFL Taylor's version all that.
Speaker 2: They've been clever and fun and smart. But I thought
Speaker 2: the mistake they made was in the beginning of the game,
Speaker 2: before the game really got going. They should have shown
Speaker 2: more Taylor there because you also had people like me
Speaker 2: tuning in to see her in the beginning. For sure,
Speaker 2: No matter what, I didn't last the whole game, and
Speaker 2: we probably weren't going.
Speaker 1: You definitely should have leaned on.
Speaker 2: It more, lean in in the beginning and then let
Speaker 2: it go.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I thought they could have done a
Speaker 1: little better. I think, you know, I get the director
Speaker 1: is probably sitting in the booth going, oh, man, you know,
Speaker 1: is this too much? I don't want to piss off
Speaker 1: all the football fans, but I felt the same way
Speaker 1: watching you. There are so many teenage girls, there are
Speaker 1: so many wives, and look, I know there are plenty
Speaker 1: of women out there that love football, so they're tuning in.
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of people watching last night
Speaker 1: that don't love football. Give them what they want early on,
Speaker 1: feed them because we're all going to sit there and
Speaker 1: watch the football game anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a new audience and it's not like.
Speaker 1: We missed a play or anything like that. It reminds
Speaker 1: me again of being on the show and a couple
Speaker 1: gets engaged on the show and people immediately say, oh,
Speaker 1: they're never gonna last, they're going to break up. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what the percentages are with you, They are
Speaker 1: going against the dice. The percentages show that they will
Speaker 1: break up, that they're not gonna make it, because most
Speaker 1: couples don't. It's hard. That's why we want to believe
Speaker 1: in love. That's why we want to see love stories
Speaker 1: so much. So it's so easy to be negative and
Speaker 1: say they're not going to make it, because that's what
Speaker 1: the percentages say so, I always just said this when
Speaker 1: someone got engaged on the show. How about we just
Speaker 1: root for them? How about we just root for love
Speaker 1: and root for them and support them, have fun with it,
Speaker 1: you know, stay on top of it and enjoy this
Speaker 1: story for what it is, or ignore it if you
Speaker 1: want to. But I always just said, how about we
Speaker 1: just believe in it and enjoy it while it lasts,
Speaker 1: and then let it happen. It's just easy to be
Speaker 1: so negative.
Speaker 2: I am rooting for it in the stands. I am
Speaker 2: rooting for it as a fan, you know, not for
Speaker 2: the game, but for the game of love.
Speaker 1: I'm cheering for I can't wait. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what's next. That's how I
Speaker 1: know this is a powerful story because I already can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what the next chapter is, and we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about it. We also need to talk about
Speaker 1: a big week that you had.
Speaker 2: Yes, our love story, Oh my gosh, we're getting into
Speaker 2: it with like, you know, we're really kind of winding
Speaker 2: down here to the wedding, and we're having different wedding
Speaker 2: celebrations and activities and our wonderful local friends here in
Speaker 2: Austin that we've made over the past year of living here.
Speaker 2: They said to me, look, Lauren, the lady said, we
Speaker 2: love to throw your bridle shower. I said, that is
Speaker 2: so kind. You don't have to like we want to.
Speaker 2: I said, well, here's the thing. I don't want a
Speaker 2: bridle shower. I know thyself. I don't want what if
Speaker 2: people get at bridle showers. First of all, let me
Speaker 2: go on a small rant. Bridal showers typically during the day.
Speaker 2: I don't like a daytime party. Maybe there are a
Speaker 2: couple and no, no, you know what, no, never mind.
Speaker 2: If I'm on a boat, I want a sunset cruise.
Speaker 2: I don't want a tailgate during the day for a
Speaker 2: football game. If I have to do that, I want
Speaker 2: it to be at night. I'll be honest. I don't
Speaker 2: like to go to a baby shower during the day.
Speaker 2: To me, and I don't want to go to a
Speaker 2: bridle shower. When you have those events during the day,
Speaker 2: it takes up the whole day. I say, bridle shower
Speaker 2: happy hour, it should always be in the evening. That's
Speaker 2: point one point two. Do you agree with me? Can
Speaker 2: you think of one drinking or partying activity you like
Speaker 2: to do during the day.
Speaker 1: No, you know me, I'm with you. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things we definitely bond on. We're not big day drinkers.
Speaker 1: We're not big partiers. During the day.
Speaker 2: I'd like to get up, workout, do my stuff, and
Speaker 2: then like have.
Speaker 1: A cop I like to enjoy my day. And then yeah, because.
Speaker 2: When you drink during the day, then your whole night's over.
Speaker 2: Then you because you're like, I've been drinking, I'm done. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So I said that, and then I said, I don't
Speaker 2: want a bridle shower because what do you typically get
Speaker 2: at a bridle shower? And blenders, KitchenAid mixers, a.
Speaker 1: Nice crock pot, a pressure cooker.
Speaker 2: It's generally home in kitchen appliances, and I haven't. You
Speaker 2: don't even let me cook anymore. You think I burn
Speaker 2: the pants or well you do. Actually there's receipts. So
Speaker 2: I don't want any of that. And my friend Wendy said,
Speaker 2: what about a lingerie shower? I said, Wendy, that wasn't
Speaker 2: even really something I'd heard of or thought of. If
Speaker 2: you all have, maybe these used to be bigger. If not,
Speaker 2: let's bring them back. It was so much fun. It
Speaker 2: was a nighttime event. They had my favorite tequila, Siemprey Tequila.
Speaker 2: Try it if you haven't. It's a beautiful, clean tequila brand,
Speaker 2: well priced and so good. Also, they have little roses
Speaker 2: on your preservatives.
Speaker 1: Very clean.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very cute for us because their labels of roses.
Speaker 2: So I love it. And they had like fun games
Speaker 2: but not gross. It was the ladies got together in
Speaker 2: the evening. They had a balloon arch for days.
Speaker 1: The incredibly the layout. I dropped you off and uh
Speaker 1: so I could pick you up later so you wouldn't drive.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. They really rolled out the red carpet.
Speaker 1: It was spectacular, and I'll be honest, I was intrigued
Speaker 1: as soon as I heard lingerie party because I feel
Speaker 1: like I win, Like I feel like this party was
Speaker 1: really for me. And I didn't have to go because
Speaker 1: I was only going to benefit from every gift you got.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, you do do benefit. And well, here's
Speaker 2: what else is great about it. At something like a
Speaker 2: lingerie shower, I think you're you're getting gifts you wouldn't
Speaker 2: by yourself, like I don't normally if I'm going to
Speaker 2: go get myself pajamas. Honestly, and maybe I should be
Speaker 2: better about it. But I'm looking for comfort bowl cute
Speaker 2: but company pajamas. I go on Amazon and get them.
Speaker 2: At a lingerie shower, you get not just lingerie, but
Speaker 2: I got like satiny pajamas and cute robes and also yeah,
Speaker 2: truly lingerie that I probably wouldn't have gone and bought
Speaker 2: for myself, because your friends are going to really want to,
Speaker 2: you know, celebrate you and luxury it and get you
Speaker 2: something special. I think when you're registering for things for
Speaker 2: like a bridal shower, you are getting stuff that is
Speaker 2: like usually quite practical, like either the ideas fill your home,
Speaker 2: I need this thing or that. So I loved the
Speaker 2: lingerie shower from just the fun luxurious part of it too.
Speaker 1: And you guys had a great time. You played games.
Speaker 1: There were I.
Speaker 2: Took I think at least six, if not more, shots
Speaker 2: of tequila.
Speaker 1: Out of the penis shot glass.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a penis shot glass. There was no penis show.
Speaker 1: There were penises. There were, Okay, one of these penises
Speaker 1: unfortunately made it into one of our social media posts.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we do you guys know.
Speaker 1: The squishy balls like the stress. So one of one
Speaker 1: of the penises is like a squishy stress ball, and
Speaker 1: as a joke, Lauren brought it home and it was
Speaker 1: sitting on a shelf and we did a social media
Speaker 1: post during the Taylor Swift Sunday Night football appearance, and
Speaker 1: I realized there was a penis over my head.
Speaker 2: You had the best line, you said, you've heard of
Speaker 2: elf on the shelf? Yes, I okay, let me ask
Speaker 2: your opinion. Were you at all? I didn't know going
Speaker 2: into this lingerie shower, by the way, I didn't really
Speaker 2: know how dirty or not they were going to make it.
Speaker 2: I did. I didn't really do a big bachelorette party.
Speaker 2: But even when I first got married, I told all
Speaker 2: my friends I've never been into the stripper thing. I said,
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be surprised with a stripper.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I'm not a big fan. But
Speaker 2: like you know, I call it elegant genitalia, A tasteful penis. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't mind. They had a little cute at the
Speaker 2: lawn d shower, like penis little candies spread across the table.
Speaker 2: They had these stressful penis. Yeah, and they had kind
Speaker 2: of a silly, very y two k frosted tips man
Speaker 2: on a poster, frosted tips hair, not the other kind
Speaker 2: of tip, and we played pin the tail on the penis.
Speaker 2: It was silly little stuff. Does that make you uncomfortable
Speaker 2: at all? Did you, as would you have an issue
Speaker 2: with any of.
Speaker 1: That, like you doing all that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, god no, I mean I honestly wouldn't even have
Speaker 1: an issue if like they had hired a stripper to
Speaker 1: come in. I don't care because it's nothing personal, it's
Speaker 1: nothing romantic.
Speaker 2: It's there's no I wouldn't have liked a stripper for you.
Speaker 1: I well, here's the thing. I know you don't love that,
Speaker 1: and I think you know that about me too. It's
Speaker 1: not my thing. It never has been. And so you know,
Speaker 1: if they if they had, oh we hired this cop
Speaker 1: guy or whatever, they came in and did it, or
Speaker 1: you probably would have for you would have been like
Speaker 1: a Voldemort, like.
Speaker 2: Well voldemor that would have been weird. But my girlfriend
Speaker 2: of mine, a very good friend of mine, did have
Speaker 2: no a Harry Potter stripper. I wasn't at that. I
Speaker 2: couldn't make her bachelor at party, but it was brilliant
Speaker 2: and apparently it was the strippers first ever request to
Speaker 2: be Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: But going to the lingerie party for you, I thought
Speaker 1: it was just fun. I was glad that your girls,
Speaker 1: your crew here, your squad, if you will, Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: to throw you a big party and it was an
Speaker 1: absolute blast everybody. Thank you, Yes and the whole neighborhood
Speaker 1: crew that really ruled. Yeah, thank you, rolled out the
Speaker 1: red penises.
Speaker 2: Oh hopefully not red eh read another Taylor Swift album reference. God,
Speaker 2: I love all the t Swift references. It was funny
Speaker 2: in the game. A lot of the Swifties were like, God,
Speaker 2: they're really trying here, but can we not do Cornelia
Speaker 2: Street references stuff like that. They were really critiquing the
Speaker 2: NFL for the references that were being made.
Speaker 1: There were a couple questions about our wedding oh coming
Speaker 1: out that some people had, and so we'll hammer some
Speaker 1: of these out because you know, we appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: reaching out via direct message. You can go to at
Speaker 1: the most Dramatic pod ever. That's our official site. We
Speaker 1: get those. Our lovely producer Kendall gets those questions and
Speaker 1: polls the for us. You can always find at Lauren
Speaker 1: Zima and at Chris B. Harrison Fire questions to us.
Speaker 1: The first question, because you know we're kind of zeroing
Speaker 1: in on our wedding, are you too getting nervous?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't feel nervous at all.
Speaker 1: I would say the tensions have risen.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true. The stress is right, the.
Speaker 1: Stress has risen. We have been very stress free, and
Speaker 1: I think we have been rolling through this together very
Speaker 1: very well, and we still are. But this last week,
Speaker 1: for sure, the stress level has been notched up, just
Speaker 1: because we have more things that we just got to
Speaker 1: get done now, all those things that you know you
Speaker 1: just as you start hitting that deadline.
Speaker 2: I always think wedding planning goes like this a long
Speaker 2: time out. You have to book the really big stuff
Speaker 2: you got it, nail down your venue, and then then
Speaker 2: there's a time when like you kind of actually can't
Speaker 2: do that much because the vendors have other stuff going
Speaker 2: on and they're sort of like, ma'am, I know you're
Speaker 2: worried about your flowers, but we have thirty weddings before
Speaker 2: years and we can't buy your flowers till the week
Speaker 2: of anyway, so you can kind of pause. Now. I
Speaker 2: do think maybe I paused quite a lot. My mom
Speaker 2: and my sister were my sister, especially who got married
Speaker 2: not long ago. I apparently I just found this out
Speaker 2: from my mom. My sister was telling my mom Lauren's
Speaker 2: not getting enough done. She needs to do more. I'm
Speaker 2: worried about her. And my mom actually said to her, Christina,
Speaker 2: Lauren's always been like this. She's very deadline oriented. She's
Speaker 2: just gonna like It's like in high school, I was
Speaker 2: the type of person who I would have a book
Speaker 2: report due for months and I would get it done
Speaker 2: two days before. Yeah, that's how I operate best. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it does mess me up. Sometimes I should be a
Speaker 2: little better about getting stuff done early. But I can't
Speaker 2: change you.
Speaker 1: I am Donna should have called me and given me
Speaker 1: this note. Should have but I so far, I think
Speaker 1: we've done well. And obviously the stress is going to
Speaker 1: build a little bit, but it's in a good way.
Speaker 2: And I straight up told you this week I will
Speaker 2: say I think you did. I think communication is important.
Speaker 2: I said to you. I want you to know I'm
Speaker 2: going to get a little stressed at this point. I
Speaker 2: love you, Like, just be prepared for the tension to
Speaker 2: be a little high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm by the way. I'm feeling it too,
Speaker 1: just because there are, you know, things we just got
Speaker 1: to do and and it feels big, and we don't
Speaker 1: have a wedding planner per se. We have people kind
Speaker 1: of helping and they thought.
Speaker 2: I was insane. I told somebody that, They said, you
Speaker 2: don't have a wedding planner, Like, no.
Speaker 1: We have someone for sure in our camp that's helping us.
Speaker 1: And then we have you know, a couple other people
Speaker 1: at these sites, the venues.
Speaker 2: And you've been a great partner in it all. Baby,
Speaker 2: you are so not the and I'll admit I think
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, I think it's It could potentially
Speaker 2: be a red flag if you've got a partner who's
Speaker 2: not into helping doing stuff, getting stuff done. You need
Speaker 2: a teammate in there. This is planning a big event
Speaker 2: in your life. You very much. You've taken on stuff
Speaker 2: you're good at. I think I've taken things on and
Speaker 2: we've had a fairly equitable distribution. Is the work?
Speaker 1: Another one asked, you know if this is if planning
Speaker 1: this together has caused fights or brought you closer together,
Speaker 1: how it's affected our relationship in it it has brought
Speaker 1: us closer together. It's just Laura and I are so
Speaker 1: aligned on so many things, on our vision on what
Speaker 1: we want to do, and then we'll sit down and
Speaker 1: kind of have a brainstorming meeting of like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: do we want to come in? What kind of music
Speaker 1: do you want? Like just we just hammer things out
Speaker 1: and kind of you know what it is. I think
Speaker 1: we're both producers at heart. We're writers and producers, and
Speaker 1: so we like producing.
Speaker 2: Together, producing our wedding. We are we are producing wrong
Speaker 2: our wedding. Yeah, I know we are, I mean, which
Speaker 2: is a good sign. I felt this way. We did
Speaker 2: our house too. But for example, you had to take
Speaker 2: a call that I couldn't be on talking about the
Speaker 2: catering and the food, and you texted me no cake, right,
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, definitely, no cake. Like we just
Speaker 2: I think we're aligned on it. Stuff's been pretty easy.
Speaker 2: I trust your judgment. And no, we're not having a
Speaker 2: wedding cake either.
Speaker 1: And so you know, someone else asked, you know who's
Speaker 1: doing what and how are you splitting this up? We
Speaker 1: just are like we definitely. It's not like hey, I'll
Speaker 1: cook you clean. It's not like we've had specific rules
Speaker 1: there's just things that Lauren, well.
Speaker 2: Maybe we both know what the other's good at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's true. And you
Speaker 1: are such a great organizer. Lauren is more meticulous I
Speaker 1: think than I am.
Speaker 2: And you're a good connector, like you're like this person
Speaker 2: would be great for this.
Speaker 1: I like to start things, You're right, I like to
Speaker 1: start connect whatever, and then I'm not great at getting
Speaker 1: into the weeds. I need people to kind of come
Speaker 1: in and finish and polish things off.
Speaker 2: But some of the stuff's been really fun to do together.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to make it sound like, oh, we
Speaker 2: don't have a wedding cake, and we're like we have
Speaker 2: a lot of really beautiful moments planned, and.
Speaker 1: I think all of it's been fun.
Speaker 2: It has like I've loved doing the seating chart together.
Speaker 1: I've loved you know what I thought of what you
Speaker 1: know about not having a wedding planner. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: stressful and I thought at times were idiots.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to just because I was thinking about
Speaker 1: my first wedding and I just showed up. I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. I was twenty two years old, so what
Speaker 1: could I have done? But I didn't do jack, I
Speaker 1: just showed up. I'm glad. I was just thinking, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't just want to show up to this.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I know every aspect of this we both do.
Speaker 1: We have planned everything meticulously, down to our guests where
Speaker 1: they're staying, like everything, and I can kind of own
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I feel much closer to it. Yeah, then, hey,
Speaker 1: we have a three o'clock wedding next Saturday.
Speaker 2: Show up like right, well, and probably your first time
Speaker 2: around it was like your your ex and your mom
Speaker 2: wanted to do it all and so what could you.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know who did it really.
Speaker 2: Maybe that is on you, But I think maybe what
Speaker 2: I've grown from with my first wedding was to be honest,
Speaker 2: not being so for lack of a better word, invested,
Speaker 2: I'm invested, but not but knowing what matters and what doesn't.
Speaker 2: Like when you're a bride for the first time and
Speaker 2: I look, I hope out there everybody only does it
Speaker 2: one time, but we grow up with this idea of
Speaker 2: weddings and it's so big and you're so stressed, and
Speaker 2: and this time I'm just like, look, I know at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we have great people, We're
Speaker 2: gonna have great wine, we're gonna have good music, and
Speaker 2: that's really all you need. And I do think this
Speaker 2: could be a hot take. Please DM me if you disagree,
Speaker 2: But I think there are some things that you need
Speaker 2: that people don't remember, and those are the things you
Speaker 2: should not stress yourself out about. Flowers is one of those.
Speaker 2: Do you need flowers? Sure, you don't want the room
Speaker 2: to look like crap. You want people to feel like
Speaker 2: it's special and beautiful. But I've never left a wedding
Speaker 2: and years later thought, God, that wedding had the best flowers. Right,
Speaker 2: You look back and you're like, we danced, we had
Speaker 2: so much fun, the toasts were great. You don't think
Speaker 2: I can't get over those floral center pieces. So I'm
Speaker 2: not stressing so much about everything. I'm focusing on what's
Speaker 2: just a necessity. But what will people really remember?
Speaker 1: Definitely, older and wiser, you and I have perspective, which
Speaker 1: is wonderful to go through this again with two people
Speaker 1: that have perspectives. So we know there's gonna be hurdles.
Speaker 1: We know we're going to trip and fall on some stuff.
Speaker 1: Things are going to go awry. We just deal with it,
Speaker 1: right if something doesn't show up in the mail that
Speaker 1: we ordered or whatever, like, okay, we'll fix it. It's
Speaker 1: all good because at the end of the day, we
Speaker 1: know we're going to get married and that's really what
Speaker 1: we care about, and our friends and family will be there,
Speaker 1: and I know there's going to be spectacular wine. It'll
Speaker 1: be great. A couple more questions thought, and this is
Speaker 1: interesting because we talked about this and we almost had
Speaker 1: this issue. Thoughts on not letting someone bring a plus one.
Speaker 2: Oh, and I have gotten a few texts from a
Speaker 2: few guests about this.
Speaker 1: So we have had a very specific situation where one
Speaker 1: of our very dear friends has somebody, but they also
Speaker 1: can break up and date other people quite often. And
Speaker 1: we talked about, hey, if this happens, we don't want
Speaker 1: a stranger at our wedding. We don't want to meet
Speaker 1: somebody for the first time.
Speaker 2: I said, if he's with the person he's currently with, yes,
Speaker 2: and they've been together for a while. Great with this
Speaker 2: discussion months ago, I said, if they break up pretty
Speaker 2: like fairly sooner before the wedding, then we're going to
Speaker 2: tell him please come on your own, do not just
Speaker 2: find a date, even though we gave you a plus one.
Speaker 2: I was going to have you call and have that conversation.
Speaker 1: And I'm by the way, I was right there with you,
Speaker 1: and it was the best line that I've heard. Was
Speaker 1: neither one of us want to meet a stranger at
Speaker 1: our wedding.
Speaker 2: And we have to give credit. We got that takeaway
Speaker 2: from Wells Adams's brother and his right who had that
Speaker 2: policy at their wedding.
Speaker 1: Ye. Yes, and I love that. I am all for that.
Speaker 1: So we were not. You know, luckily we haven't had
Speaker 1: to jump off that bridge, but we were prepared to.
Speaker 2: It's you know what, though, let's get into it is
Speaker 2: amazing and I've talked to other friends about this, and
Speaker 2: I think everyone out there who's been married can relate.
Speaker 2: It's amazing the crap people will say and do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when it's your wedding. I don't know what happens I
Speaker 2: think people, And I don't mean to sound negative, you guys,
Speaker 2: I've lost my voice again from the lingerie shower. I
Speaker 2: honestly think I need to see a doctor about my voice.
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried, but so I hope I don't
Speaker 2: sound negative. I'm very happy right now. My voice has
Speaker 2: just gone. But people will there's something about a wedding
Speaker 2: where people are emboldened. It's kind of like a funeral.
Speaker 2: When there's a big life event, people say and do
Speaker 2: the weirdest crap. I had someone ask me if like
Speaker 2: their kid could come and their kid could bring a
Speaker 2: plus one, and I was like, I barely know your kid,
Speaker 2: like you know what it's like. And the fact that
Speaker 2: I was a little like, I kind of can't believe
Speaker 2: they asked that.
Speaker 1: Or and I know you guys like, look, if there's
Speaker 1: a destination wedding, say you're going to Kansas City, back
Speaker 1: to Taylor.
Speaker 2: Destination Kansas City made.
Speaker 1: Me call wrid or groom and say, what's the weather
Speaker 1: going to be like in Kansas City?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if you can google it, don't ask
Speaker 2: me about it.
Speaker 1: Come on, Try not to ask the brighter groom or
Speaker 1: whoever anything that you know, Oh you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the dress is, Well, yeah you do, it's
Speaker 1: on it's on the invitation, or just try to not
Speaker 1: ask them.
Speaker 2: The most I did. I've had a couple of people
Speaker 2: ask me because we have a wedding website and I've
Speaker 2: had a couple of people be like, hey, can you
Speaker 2: remind me, like what time this is or what time
Speaker 2: it's like, and I've said it's on the website. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I know that. I know that text is not
Speaker 2: coming across great. I know it's coming across a little shady,
Speaker 2: but I can't. I'm like, I can either type out
Speaker 2: a whole paragraph explaining it, or I can tell you
Speaker 2: it's on the website. And I did the website myself,
Speaker 2: so I already type that paragraph.
Speaker 1: At big events and this goes back to lingerie party
Speaker 1: or bachelor, bacherette party, funeral, wedding, whatever the big event, graduation,
Speaker 1: whenever any individual or a couple someone is being honored,
Speaker 1: it's for them. The night is in their name, it's
Speaker 1: for them. Don't make it about you. You don't get
Speaker 1: to do that that one day, that one night. Don't
Speaker 1: end up, you know, being the center of attention, whether
Speaker 1: it's drama, whatever.
Speaker 2: I would love stories, can you, guys? I just I mean,
Speaker 2: I would just it's always fun to hear drama, no
Speaker 2: matter even especially it's about people you don't know. Please
Speaker 2: dm us if you have stories of crazy stuff people
Speaker 2: did at your wedding.
Speaker 1: One of our friends has a story where her best
Speaker 1: friend locked herself in a bathroom and was bawling.
Speaker 2: The best friend was upset. This is wild and stuff
Speaker 2: like this, we'd love to hear our dear friend. Her
Speaker 2: best friend was a bridesmaid, but was upset she wasn't
Speaker 2: made the maid of honor. The maid of honor was
Speaker 2: the bride's sister. So the best friend is upset that
Speaker 2: the sister is the maid of honor. And it all
Speaker 2: came out on the wedding day. Apparently she'd been holding
Speaker 2: it in, locked herself in a bathroom crying, and the
Speaker 2: bride had to go be like, can you please come
Speaker 2: out for the wedding? How wild is that? People become
Speaker 2: n hinge?
Speaker 1: Don't be that person.
Speaker 2: Okay, any other question?
Speaker 1: Yes, last question. This is a big one because we
Speaker 1: just had this conversation last night. Have you two written
Speaker 1: your vows?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we did just talk about this Lesbon
Speaker 2: and attorney instead of you started.
Speaker 1: The answer is no, we have not.
Speaker 2: I've thought about much. Yeah, if marinated in my mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I think about it a lot. If
Speaker 1: I'm at the gym, whatever, I start kind of going
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: Part of it is what we've been together a lot,
Speaker 2: and I sort of feel like I need to like
Speaker 2: separate from you, get to write it out, Yeah, write
Speaker 2: it out on my own, like I can't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think there's something maybe a little romantic about it. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I need to be away from you for a day
Speaker 2: or something to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So the answer is yes, we're going to
Speaker 1: The answer is no, we haven't. And I've become Lauren
Speaker 1: where I'm just kicking this can down the road. It'll
Speaker 1: be it's not gonna be last minute, but we will
Speaker 1: get it done. But it's funny. We just had this
Speaker 1: conversation last night.
Speaker 2: Well one of the questions was, are you nervous. I'm
Speaker 2: not nervous, like we said, I'm stressed. I am. The
Speaker 2: only thing I might be a little nervous about is
Speaker 2: the vows. Yeah, I don't want to. I love you
Speaker 2: and I'm afraid of disappointing you.
Speaker 1: If we're putting a lot of pressure on each other
Speaker 1: for this, I know, and it's self imposed both ways,
Speaker 1: because I've admitted the same thing. Yeah, we've imposed our
Speaker 1: own pressure to perform it from the other I think.
Speaker 2: It's very difficult. And I said this to you yesterday.
Speaker 2: We have to take some of this stress and pressure
Speaker 2: off ourselves because it is incredibly tough to summarize your relationship,
Speaker 2: your love. Yeah, in just a few minutes of words.
Speaker 1: I need a Taylor Swift song.
Speaker 2: I need a whole album. And the shower was so thoughtful.
Speaker 2: They just had so many great details, framed pictures of
Speaker 2: us and future Missus Napkins and a Missus Harrison.
Speaker 1: Veil future mister and Missus Harrison veil. I saw it.
Speaker 2: No, it just said Missus Harrison and it was so
Speaker 2: funny because I felt bad. They literally had a cute
Speaker 2: little veil mate, and it had Missus Harrison printed in
Speaker 2: gold on the veil, and they said, yeah, we had
Speaker 2: this mean before we heard your podcast rant about how
Speaker 2: you caught changing your name.
Speaker 1: See, you know what's funny. Though, I like seeing it,
Speaker 1: like I like hearing it, and I like seeing it,
Speaker 1: and I know that you're not going to take my
Speaker 1: name and that's fine, and I really am it doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt me and it doesn't hurt my feelings, but I
Speaker 1: also is it okay? Again? Two things can be true
Speaker 1: at once. I still like hearing it.
Speaker 2: And let me say I didn't dislike it. I said
Speaker 2: to them that night, I said, you know what, this
Speaker 2: feels cute. I like it. It's not that I would
Speaker 2: have an issue with taking your name and us being
Speaker 2: one in that way. I just think people should be
Speaker 2: with partners who are also willing to go the other way.
Speaker 2: And it's a red flag to me if you're not.
Speaker 2: And I should applaud you because we actually have a
Speaker 2: group text going with like our very closest friends who
Speaker 2: are coming to the wedding to kind of get excited,
Speaker 2: and this was your idea. We named the group text
Speaker 2: mister and missus Zema. So you're right there withn't me, babe,
Speaker 2: And that's why I love you.
Speaker 1: And that happens often too. We talked about that when
Speaker 1: we're hotels or resorts or whatever, people you know, whatever
Speaker 1: name is on the reservation, they'll say, mister Zema, how
Speaker 1: are you doing this morning? You know, so I get
Speaker 1: called mister Zema all.
Speaker 2: The times, Harrison.
Speaker 1: You get called missus Harrison. Neither one of us are
Speaker 1: offended by it, and in fact I like it. I
Speaker 1: like when I'm called mister Zema. I like when you're
Speaker 1: called missus Harrison. I think it's great. It just shows
Speaker 1: that we're we're one and we are a couple, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we need to change our names or should.
Speaker 1: We've already covered that in a prior podcast, but I
Speaker 1: did enjoy seeing that.
Speaker 2: On the veil the Harrizemas the Zema Sins.
Speaker 1: What a crazy week it has been. Full of Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: full of Travis Kelcey, full of penises, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: lots of celebrations and it's all good. It's all good,
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you guys being with us as always
Speaker 1: and again. You can find us at the drumost Somatic
Speaker 1: pod at Lauren Zema at Chris B. Harrison always good
Speaker 1: talking to you. Take care of yourself, take care of
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