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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday edition of One's Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: Players back on the practice field, beginning to game installation,

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Speaker 2: game plan installation for Sunday's game against the Saints.

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Speaker 1: This is where we always say the preparations began in earnest, earnest,

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Speaker 1: in earnest. Yes, I'm sure there is an earnestness to

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Speaker 1: their preparation. Sure, it felt like a long time since

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Speaker 1: we've talked to Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: He spoke today, that's right, and we'll get to some

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Speaker 2: of his comments in just a second. We should tell

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Speaker 2: you right off the bat that this week's home game

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Speaker 2: against the Saints is presented by Collida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and there are some

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Speaker 2: news and notes here. First and foremost, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: the practice updates. Bill's Practice Updates presented by Leecom your

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Speaker 2: Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine, and Coach McDermott provided

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Speaker 2: an update on non participants for practice today, those being

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Speaker 2: at Oliver with his ankle injury, Matt Malana with his

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Speaker 2: peck injury, and Spencer Brown is a new ad with

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Speaker 2: a calf injury sustained in the Miami game. Coach mc

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Speaker 2: dermott said all three are improving and trending in the

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Speaker 2: right direction. Whether or not that means they'll play on

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Speaker 2: Sunday obviously still to be determined. Meanwhile, no firm tie

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Speaker 2: table on a return for kicker Tyler Bass. McDermott said

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Speaker 2: they have no grasp on whether he'll return in one.

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Speaker 1: Week, two weeks, three weeks, so.

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Speaker 2: Still sounds like a pretty cloudy picture there with his

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Speaker 2: hip and groin injuries. Max Hairston will fulfill his four

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Speaker 2: week minimum on injured reserve after this week's game against

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Speaker 2: the Saints, so coach McDermott was asked today about his

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Speaker 2: progress and likelihood of returning to the active roster as

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Speaker 2: soon as next week. Coach was pretty direct in lowering

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Speaker 2: expectations in light of all the time that Harston has missed,

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Speaker 2: which essentially was all but a week of training camp,

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Speaker 2: the entire preseason, and the first month here of the

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be a slow roadback by design

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Speaker 2: for Max Harrison here and not clear if that's going

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Speaker 2: to begin next week or if it's going to be

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Speaker 2: later than that.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have to see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's safe to say they are going

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Speaker 2: to be very slow and deliberate in working him back

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: There is not a race in any sense to throw

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Speaker 2: him on the football field. It's interesting if we think

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Speaker 2: about this, Steve, because last year Cole Bishop was in

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Speaker 2: a similar boat. He did not He did not miss

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Speaker 2: this much time he was backed by like week two

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 1: He did not go on ir at the be Remember

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Speaker 1: they were forced to put him in the lineup in

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Speaker 1: Week five when the guys, when all those guys got injured. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he started in Week five against the Texans on the road.

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Speaker 1: Harston's reminiscent of it, no question about it. But he's

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Speaker 1: been out for significantly longer than Cole Bishop was, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a slow ramp up, very slow

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Speaker 2: I mean, if this was a five year vet healthy, Okay,

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Speaker 2: get back into practice. Oh you're good, Okay, you're playing

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Speaker 2: this week. Right, For a rookie that's never played an

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Speaker 2: that's right now.

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Speaker 1: He has been in the building. He's been around, he's

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Speaker 1: some of the mental stuff he's probably catching up with,

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Speaker 1: but physical reps are non existent, and he hasn't played

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a minute. Yeah, So I'm rightfully, So,

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Speaker 2: It's a hard position, yeah, And it's a ligament injury,

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Speaker 1: And you think about it when you click in the

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Speaker 1: think about think about what you would feel like your

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Speaker 1: been waiting. You see, you're in the team. You're in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think what everyone should do based on

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Speaker 2: how coach McDermot addressed this is slow and steady is

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Speaker 2: going to set the pace here. It's pretty clear to

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Speaker 2: me that is their mo with him in this particular case.

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Speaker 1: This is the part of the you know, the finger

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Speaker 1: the culture we always talk about with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: It's a real thing. The players really appreciated. Word has

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. You know, we're gonna plug you

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Speaker 1: they did it with Josh as a quarterback. They're setting

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Speaker 1: This is the hard part about the culture conversation. It's

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So it looks like even if he's off, even if

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should anticipate he's gonna move into

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Speaker 2: first week back on game day, right, right, might be.

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Speaker 1: Healthy and active. Yeah, and you can bet too, they're

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Speaker 1: into your your game day routine. McDermott spoke about that

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Speaker 1: today as well, that the rarity of a one o'clock

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a real thing getting a game day

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. I you know, I'm like everybody, Ell,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the guy go out there

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Speaker 1: and keep up with people, you know, and fans. You know,

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Speaker 1: I want to see the first round pick.

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Speaker 2: But doesn't sound like right the Bills are going to

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Speaker 2: and seeing Max Harrison back out on the playing.

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Speaker 1: Field for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, Official

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Speaker 2: Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bills, or Yeah, Washington wide

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Speaker 2: receiver Terry McLaurin not looking good for the Commander's game

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Speaker 2: Sunday against the Falcons. He is seeking a second opinion,

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Speaker 2: but he's unlikely to play this weekend. Suffered a quad injury,

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Speaker 2: quarterback Drew Brees receiver Larry Fitzgerald among those picked in

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Speaker 2: their first year of eligibility as two of the nominees

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame class. Breeze and Fitzgerald were

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Speaker 1: Those two are expected to sail.

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Speaker 2: In to the Hall of Fame with a good chance

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Speaker 2: to be first ballot guys. Eleven other players in their

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Speaker 2: and twenty eight Modern era nominees for this year's class,

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Speaker 2: including former Bills running backs Lashawn McCoy and Frank Gore.

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Speaker 2: You forget one year with Frank Gore? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's some other Bills.

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Speaker 1: On It's kind of cool to think about. Frank Gore

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Speaker 1: and Lashawn McCoy were both Buffalo Bills for a hot minute. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Lashawn had a nice little stretch here when he was

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, the Bills back to back years were number

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Speaker 1: When I heard that, remember that's when they traded also

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Speaker 1: I heard that they got Lashawn, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I'd I had done Monday night football for Westwood one

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Speaker 1: saw Lashawan McCoy play a handful of times, and I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what he was at field level, Lashawn was

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Speaker 1: well he's not nominated for the Hall of Fame, of course,

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Speaker 1: he's he was a special player. And when the Bills

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Speaker 1: got him in that trade, I remember thinking, are you

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Speaker 1: that's no. I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Kiko after one year of enormous production.

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Speaker 1: But you look back at that trade. The Bills unequivocally

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Speaker 1: What's up, David?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Watch your show all the time. Hey, listen, did you

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Speaker 1: R right right.

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Speaker 6: Detroit ran two.

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Speaker 1: They've, David, They've been doing that since the start of

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Speaker 1: on the right track, but unfortunately the train past that station.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're you got to catch up, David. We've been

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Speaker 1: tying there and done that, been there and done that.

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Speaker 1: They're doing it right now. So yeah, you're on the

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Speaker 1: right track. Let's go to Chris in Indianapolis next. What's up, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, just just wanted to get your take on who

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Speaker 8: do you think would benefit us best from a loss

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Speaker 8: or a win in the Baltimore Kansas City game coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting question, right. My call was, I've

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Speaker 1: been telling this all week. I think it's your rooting

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. I think you're rooting for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: because we have to pay play the Chiefs. Still Ravens.

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Speaker 1: We've got the tie breaker on and the lead the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: We still have to play. So if the Chiefs beat

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, now they kind of pull a little closer

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Speaker 1: to where we're at already. I think you're cheering for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens because of the future game against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: So if the Chiefs beat the Chiefs, get beat by

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, and the Bills still have to beat them.

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Speaker 1: But now you've beaten both those clubs, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have also lost to the Ravens, and you've already got

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Speaker 1: a two game lead virtually on the Ravens already just

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Speaker 1: link and so you can spare one of those and

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Speaker 1: get another game lead on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Only argument against that, this is the only argument against that,

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Speaker 2: because I tend to agree with what Steve is laid

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Speaker 2: out for you there. The only argument against that is,

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Speaker 2: maybe you want the Ravens to continue to have losses

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Speaker 2: so that the AFC North becomes a competition.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Pittsburgh can.

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Speaker 2: Win games and make it a race or somehow even

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Speaker 2: leapfrog them at the end of the season, because I

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Speaker 2: think the going anticipation is Denver and the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: going to be a handful for the Chiefs in their division,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna be handing them some losses. Probably maybe

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Speaker 2: they split the season series there.

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Speaker 1: Well, Chargers already get them, They already got them once,

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Speaker 1: So that would be the only counter argument, because I

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Speaker 1: think there's more there's more divisional competition in terms of

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Speaker 1: quality of opponent in the AFC West right now than

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Speaker 1: there is in the AFC. Now, simply put, you feel

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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs have a rougher division than the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So the Chiefs are gonna get lumped up, particularly the

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Speaker 1: way they are playing, They're gonna get lumped up by

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Speaker 1: other people rather than the Ravens. So you just take

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Speaker 1: another loss by the Ravens because they're in a division

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit like the AFC East right now,

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Speaker 1: who outside of the Buffalo Bills is hot garbage. So

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Speaker 1: but the Chiefs are gonna have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a bumpy road getting to the playoffs because of the

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Speaker 1: quality of the division. Not so much with the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: although you know the Steelers are good. The Bengals are

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Speaker 1: you know now the Bengals, I mean they got lit

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Speaker 1: on fire and you know they're going down in flames

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Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow for the next two or three months.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on. So there you are again, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Despite the win against green Bay, the good defense, they

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Speaker 1: have trouble scoring. So the Ravens, you feel like they

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Speaker 1: should they're gonna sail through that division like the Bills

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Speaker 1: are sailing through the East. The Chiefs, like Brownie.

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Speaker 4: Said, it's hard for them unless Broncos and the Chargers

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Speaker 4: are well and the Charges are out to a three

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Speaker 4: and ozh start and all three of those wins are

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Speaker 4: division wins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, think about that. So they're out in front. So

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Speaker 1: it's already catch up time.

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Speaker 2: For the Broncos, the Chiefs, and the Raiders, who I

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Speaker 2: don't think anybody feels is going to contend for the division.

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Speaker 1: We got to take a break here before we do.

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Speaker 2: David and Buffalo, our first caller, said the Bills should

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Speaker 2: run more two and three tight end sets like the Lions.

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Speaker 2: We told David, they're already doing that. And if anybody's

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Speaker 2: copying anybody, Detroit's copying Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Here's a number for you to show.

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Speaker 2: You how much they're how well they're executing two and

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Speaker 2: tight end two and three tight end sets on the field.

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Speaker 1: The Bills lead the.

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Speaker 2: League in yards per carry in twelve and thirteen personnel

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Speaker 2: seven point two yards per rush with two and three

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Speaker 2: tight ends on the field when they run the football. David,

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Speaker 2: trust me, they got it covered. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back. We'll talk to Ryan in Toronto

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 2: We heard coach McDermott talk today Steve about the pass

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Speaker 2: rush and while it has been effective, actually the Bills

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Speaker 2: lead the league in pressure rate, they're not getting the

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Speaker 2: quarterback on the ground, and I would argue they're not

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Speaker 2: affecting the quarterback enough.

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Speaker 1: Sacks are one thing.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have six and three games, that's not horrible,

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Speaker 2: But I think what's more important is that you're affecting

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Speaker 2: the quarterback's decision making, is throwing, etc. And they're not

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Speaker 2: doing enough of that to this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had moments. They did a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: in the Dolphins game against Tua. Like we said, Tua,

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Speaker 1: you know, gets rid of it so well, and their

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Speaker 1: run game was a factor.

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Speaker 2: You're right, But they've got him in third and longs

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Speaker 2: and so coach has to talk to his staff about

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Speaker 2: how do we fix this. So what do you think

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Speaker 2: the conversation is like knowing, Hey, look we're getting the

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Speaker 2: third and twelve, we're getting the third and nine, we're

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Speaker 2: getting the third and seven.

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Speaker 1: Why the hell are we not getting off the field?

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Speaker 1: I said, I I'm surprised, but I think they really

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Speaker 1: missed ed. I thinks I think that's a fact down inside.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, T J. Sanders won a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. Bosa is the is really the guy

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Speaker 1: who's actually playing at a high level that other teams

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Speaker 1: are keying on. And he was close to a few times. Russeau,

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Speaker 1: Epanessa and those and Javon Solomon, whoever else is on

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Speaker 1: the other side. You've got to have somebody on the

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Speaker 1: other end, starting with Greg. You know, you gotta you

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Speaker 1: gotta show up. Somebody's got to win. Yeah, those guys

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Speaker 1: have been a little slow out of the gate. Here

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Speaker 1: you go back and so you go back and look

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Speaker 1: at Solomon. Watch super Bowls. Man, those teams have got

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Speaker 1: four guys up front that can get it done.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was also interesting though, And look, we're

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Speaker 2: not telling you what we think. Coach McDermott is saying

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Speaker 2: from the coach's office, he said this. He said he

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Speaker 2: believes the problem with third down defense is a bunch

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Speaker 2: of things, and then he listed them all. One was

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Speaker 2: marrying the rush with the coverage, which you hear him

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Speaker 2: talk about all the time as being priority number one,

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Speaker 2: but I thought his second point was particularly interesting when

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Speaker 2: he said, we need the players up front to play

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Speaker 2: off of one another more effectively, whether that's setting your

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Speaker 2: teammate up on a stunt or a twist like because

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of times within the scheme where

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Speaker 2: you run a stunt or a twist, and even though

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Speaker 2: you're part of that stunt, you're not the guy that's

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Speaker 2: supposed to come free, So you have to execute it

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Speaker 2: in such a way two in shit, sure the guy

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Speaker 2: you're stunting or twisting with becomes the free rusher.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what coach McDermott is getting at there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they are, but you need to be unselfish. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got to sacrifice this rush for your

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Speaker 1: buddy to try and get around around the corner now.

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Speaker 1: And it works better on some quarterbacks than others. On

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Speaker 1: two if you can get quick pressure, it works really well. Lamar.

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Speaker 1: You maybe opening up a can of worms you don't

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Speaker 1: want any part of, right, So you rush him a

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Speaker 1: little differently the way we saw Detroit do. They didn't.

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Speaker 1: They didn't rush. And then when he finally got impatient,

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Speaker 1: left the pocket. Then they had the spy who triggered

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Speaker 1: and kept him in. So different tactics for different types

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Speaker 1: of skill sets from the quarterback. But I think that

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Speaker 1: we hear it from Bob Babbage all the time, and

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Speaker 1: today we heard it again from Sean McDermott. Rush needs

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Speaker 1: to be Cohen's need to cooperate with the coverage. I

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Speaker 1: think they're not getting that done. They keep saying it,

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Speaker 1: keeps saying, so it's not happening, that's they don't say it.

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Speaker 1: If it's not.

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Speaker 2: If it's happening, that's a problem in one but not

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Speaker 2: the other. And they need them both to, you know,

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Speaker 2: be a that prof simultaneous.

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Speaker 1: I think they're really preoccupied with the fact that the

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Speaker 1: front and back end aren't playing as one unit. Uh

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Speaker 1: enough and complimenting each other enough, We'll see, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: gotta tie that together.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones, and has promised we lead

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Speaker 2: off with Ryan and Toronto.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Ryan?

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Speaker 5: Do Steve love the show as always? Mike? That a topic.

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Speaker 5: You gotta all know how much I love Tyl Seams

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Speaker 5: before preseason. I'm so glad he's in the three man roster. Mike.

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Speaker 5: Was he dressed for the Baltimore game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he took some. He actually got on the field

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Speaker 1: as wide out for a hot minute. Took a rep

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Speaker 1: and I gotta catch in the Baltimore game, didn't he

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Speaker 1: hold on?

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you did. No, no, no he did not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he had no in the Baltimore Oh, that was

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Speaker 1: the Miami game he had. Yes, you're right, Miami.

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Speaker 5: Game he had two exceptions that said, and then not

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Speaker 5: nothing on the Jets game.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I really think it's a game for

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Speaker 5: this guy. He deserves it. I want Joe Brady to

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Speaker 5: showcase this guy. But I honestly he's a hidden talent

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Speaker 5: and I love this guy. And same secondary is not

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Speaker 5: the best and it's a great time for Josh to

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Speaker 5: you know, unleash and go for that deep ball and

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Speaker 5: go to shaves man. I really want to see this

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Speaker 5: guy shine this weekend. I hope, really hope Joe Brady

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Speaker 5: you know, keeps him up and get a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: I leave some deep passes. I can take my car guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ryan, I think you gotta I think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be waiting a long time for that, And the only

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Speaker 2: reason I say that is because this passing game, by

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Speaker 2: its very nature, doesn't showcase any one guy unless there

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Speaker 2: is such a gaping invitation from an opposing defense to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of a matchup, I e. The Lions last

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Speaker 2: year with Ty Johnson. Short of some kind of mismatch

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Speaker 2: like that, you're gonna continue to see the Bills spread

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Speaker 2: the ball all around the field to whomever is open

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Speaker 2: on any given play. Josh is not prejudiced, He is

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Speaker 2: not discerning in who he is going to go to.

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Speaker 2: He has free license to and full confidence to utilize

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Speaker 2: anybody that happens to be open on any given play.

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Speaker 2: So I think because of that, I think it's very

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Speaker 2: tough for them to showcase one.

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Speaker 1: Guy in a game. And I think as well, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they go into any game knowing who might emerge.

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Speaker 1: They might have an idea like we're gonna test this

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Speaker 1: and if it worked, we're gonna go here's where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be, Like the Ty Johnson game in Detroit last year,

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Speaker 1: or Opening weekend when Keon got eleven targets and eight

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Speaker 1: receptions for a buck twelve. I don't think they know

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Speaker 1: that going into the game, but once the game they

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Speaker 1: know there might be a chance, but they exploit it

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Speaker 1: until the team takes it away. So I think there's

655
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Speaker 1: a number of guys in there, from Shakir to Palmer

656
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: to Coleman to Cook Kincaid. All these guys feel like

657
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: I might be the guy today. So depending on how

658
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: the defense of the Saints in this case, the or

659
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens or the Dolphins or the Jets, whichever one

660
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: you want to pick, however they deploy their defense and

661
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: where they choose the matchups is where the ball is

662
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: gonna go. And they've all bought in. Nobody's squawking about

663
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: who's getting thrown to or anything. Can they all understand

664
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Speaker 1: why it's happening. And Josh is a distributor, So I

665
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: don't think yes, I don't think they go into a

666
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: game thinking we're gonna showcase this. They go in thinking

667
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna try this and if it works, we're gonna

668
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: keep going to it. But if they adjust or whatever, Uh,

669
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Speaker 1: they're gonna pick the matchups and we're gonna we're gonna

670
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Speaker 1: beat them whatever they do, whatever they pick.

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Speaker 2: Concerning your desire for some deep shots down the field,

672
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: I think there could be some opportunities that present themselves

673
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Speaker 2: against the Saints. As we heard Dan Orlovsky on our

674
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: show yesterday and talking about the Saints defense, said they

675
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: will take risks because they know their offense is not

676
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: efficient enough and productive enough to keep up with an

677
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: offense like that of the Bills. So they're gonna try

678
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: to jump some routes and some short stuff. And we

679
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: know that's where the Bill's passing game largely lives in

680
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: the short to intermediate area. So if the Bills can

681
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: properly anticipate that and a given down and distance, and

682
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: you run the right hitch and go at the right time,

683
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: you might have something over the top, you know, that

684
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: can put some points on the board on a four

685
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: play scoring drive instead of an eleven play scoring drive.

686
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Speaker 1: Right, and the Bills you go back and look, they've

687
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: got maybe a top I mean, I didn't know this

688
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: until I saw it before. After Week three was up

689
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: their top three or top five in explosive play and

690
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: long plays from scrimmage runs and passes because it's more

691
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: yards after catch, right, more yards after catch. So I

692
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: really have a problem with them taking the short throw

693
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: and letting James Cook run for fifty one like he

694
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: did in the Baltimore game. But I get your point.

695
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: It does seem like they have an extra gear. And

696
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: in these games like against the Dolphins were tied in

697
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, or against you know, the Ravens, where

698
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: they're down, they just don't feel like they're shifting into

699
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: that final gear to give themselves the best chance to win.

700
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that's their mindset, but I get the

701
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that it portrays, you know, because

702
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: I think we're all there once in a while you

703
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: feel like you got this guy, Josh Man throw that

704
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: thing thirty five yards on a rope to somebody on

705
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: their numbers, and let's go. Instead, they throw at three

706
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: yards to somebody and they run for seven and it's

707
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: first down. Let's move it off. It's not quite as exciting.

708
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Let's squeeze in butcher on the east side here before

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Speaker 1: the break.

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Speaker 6: What's up, gentlemen, thanks so much to take it. Called

711
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Speaker 6: my brothers from another beautiful mother. I love him, Miss

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Speaker 6: g I love w g R. And so all the

713
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: fans who listen and watch this beautiful TV show and

714
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 6: radio show. I love each and every one of you.

715
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna be along with it because I know

716
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 6: you're up for the break. So I'm gonna get to

717
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 6: it real fast. I'm gonna I gotta, I gotta piggyback

718
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 6: on something that Ryan said second ago. Six for It's

719
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 6: Terrell Shavers, six for Coln Shakir Palmer, you got Dalton

720
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Speaker 6: kon K, you got cooked, you got Ray Davis. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna go to Steve Ray Fast. I was watching it

722
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 6: thirty for thirty special yesterday. I've seen it before. I

723
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 6: watched it, I recorded. I kept watching my three or

724
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 6: four times. That k gun offense was unstoppable. Uh, I

725
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: had the right personnel. I looked at everybody that you

726
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: guys have. I'm not talking about I'm not talking about

727
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 6: Yellow Jackets, and I'm just talking about the players talent wise,

728
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: real fast. Buffalo needs to run up Temple sometimes not

729
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 6: all the time. Sometimes based off with Ryan just spoke

730
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: about Terrell Shavers and Ryan op just want to say

731
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 6: this and this is the only thing I got to

732
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 6: knock on. Joe Brady is Joe Brady coming out of LSU.

733
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Speaker 6: Even when he was at Carolina, he had Curtis Samus

734
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 6: at Caroline. He has some receivers did, but he was

735
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: mainly inside the twenty yard line type coordinated and design

736
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: and play play calling. Very seldom you're gonna see the

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00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills outside. Wide receivers get designed plays, not unless

738
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Speaker 6: it's a breakaway. In Josh and Scrambling and Steve like

739
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 6: you know, and special teams and the balls, they hall

740
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: a fire that means get away from the ball. The

741
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 6: same thing with Josh scrambles, that means fire. Everybody needs

742
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 6: to go and trying to find an open gap and

743
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 6: then Josh, who he is, makes the play. So saying

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 6: that moving forward, moving forward into the Saints game, like

745
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 6: Ryan said, I'm not saying that you showcase a person.

746
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 6: I just wish that Joe Brady, that's something he's gonna

747
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 6: have to learn as you goes as an office courtator

748
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: design and learn how to design deep passes and deep

749
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 6: routes instead of little slends like you just say hitch

750
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: and go, hitch and go and go. That's fine, but

751
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 6: at the same time we have to be more of it.

752
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: I want to say Redunda when I used the word dictator,

753
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 6: I don't really care what other thirty one teams do.

754
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: We have the talent enough offensively, especially to just dominate

755
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 6: like Steven those guys did back in the nineties with

756
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 6: the K gun. We don't have to call it the

757
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 6: K gun, but you know what I mean on up

758
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: temple offense, where at the same time, when you spread them,

759
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 6: you can hand the ball up like like Kelly's to

760
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 6: get a therm, and you can give it to Cook

761
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 6: the same way. And so I just say that Steve

762
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: used to catch Knights passing down the slot. That's Steve,

763
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: will be Terrell Shavers and the K gunn all you

764
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: can use them and see them that way. But anyway,

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Speaker 6: thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I love E JW

766
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Speaker 6: one of you, man, and they keep winning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You bet I get you. And we were

768
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: talking today that New Orleans runs some no huddle, they

769
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: run up tempo offense. Yeah, it's going to be a

770
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: different kind of thing they I think it helps a

771
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: young quarterback like Spencer Rattler if the defense doesn't change

772
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: personnel as much and he can and if you go fast,

773
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: it gives the offense some advantages if they can get

774
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: first downs. If they go no huddle and don't get

775
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: a first down, it turns into a problem. Pretty quickly

776
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: it loses its effective.

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00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Yes, not only that, you're also off the field. I

778
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: will just push back on Butcher's point a little bit

779
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: because I do think there are down the field shots

780
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: within the scope of Brady's playbook, and he has called

781
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: those plays. You think about the Josh Palmer catch at

782
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: the end of the Ravens game, the whole shot first

783
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: touchdown to Kincaid in the game last week against.

784
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: Miami Hawes, down the seam and all the sea. I mean,

785
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: there are there are plays called. He has that in

786
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: his repertoire. Do you think I just think he's committed

787
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: to efficiency and staying on schedule more than anything. I

788
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's Joe Brady. I think

789
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: it might be Josh. Could be. It might be Josh

790
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: is saying listen, we're now, because he did open it up.

791
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: When they got down two scores with five minutes to

792
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: go against the Baltimore Ravens, they got well, we got to

793
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: have it. They opened it up. And it's not like

794
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: they were completely ineffective before that. They had a couple

795
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: of three and outs in the second half which were troublesome,

796
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: but that was a myriad of things going wrong. It

797
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: wasn't like just the play calls. I think there are

798
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: throws to be made down the field, and Josh is

799
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: just choosing not to until he really needs him. And

800
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I think he knows with this offense and his abilities

801
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: and the guys around him, they can't score if they're

802
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: not on the field offensively. And we've already got a

803
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: lead in this game.

804
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Speaker 2: And we're also efficient enough. Yeah, put a ten to

805
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: eleven play drive together. We don't mess up very often.

806
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: Right He's I think I think a little bit of

807
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: this dink and dunk stuff is by choice from Josh,

808
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: maybe not from Joe Brady, because you go back and

809
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: look at the All twenty two and some of the

810
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: game broadcast in the replays, there's some guys he could

811
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: he could have. You know, we've seen him fit it

812
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: in there. But he's like, eh, I got it. You know.

813
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Now he's completing seventy eight percent of his passes and

814
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: they're I mean, so you know, it's not broken. And

815
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: I do think there's another gear they've got, and I

816
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: think it's more about I just think it's more about

817
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: the way they choose to win right now than it

818
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: is about not having the place called that can go

819
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: down the field.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, more

821
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: of your phone calls, so stay tuned for that and

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Speaker 2: second hour of the show. We got one of the

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00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: guys calling the game on Sunday joining us too, mister

824
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: Andrew Catalog from NFL on CBS. We'll be joining us

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Speaker 2: in the second hour. Plenty to come here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with us, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: To combat hunger in our community, the Buffalo Bills Foundation

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Speaker 2: and Wegmans are teaming up for their annual Huddle for

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00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: Hunger initiative. His aims to awareness of food insecurity in

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Speaker 2: our region and support local hunger fighting charities. This year,

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00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: there will be an interactive festival at high Mark Stadium Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: September thirtieth, from four thirty to six thirty pm in.

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Speaker 1: The Lot too.

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Speaker 2: All next week, Wegmans will match every meals to Go

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Speaker 2: order dollar per dollar until fifty thousand dollars is reached.

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00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Then the fifty to fifty proceeds at the home game

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00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: against the Patriots on October fifth will be donated to

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Speaker 2: nonprofits that address hunger. Bills do this every year and

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00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: this is the week so this coming Tuesday, feel free

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00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: to stop down if you have a non perishable food

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00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: item you want to donate, or it's an interactive festival,

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Speaker 2: so or you can make a monetary donation.

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00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, meals to go on the dock as well, except

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00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth through the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you order a meals to go, Meals to Go,

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Speaker 2: there will be a donation matching donation made by Wegmans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So a lot of good stuff

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Speaker 1: going on to that's a nice you absolutely. Uh. We

849
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Speaker 1: are going to get back to the phones.

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Speaker 2: Here as we are asking you today, which Bill's player

851
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: do you want to see breakout here in week four?

852
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it's someone that's been relatively quiet through the first

853
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: three games.

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00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: For me, it's Greg Russou.

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00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: I want to see this guy unleashed because to this

856
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: point he's been rather quiet. And this was a guy

857
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: that looked like he got shot out of a cannon

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00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: in Week one last year. He had three sacks in

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00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: that first game, and we just have not seen the

860
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: same Greg Russo through the first three weeks. So there's

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Speaker 2: a guy that I would pick, uh to see breakout

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00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: here in week four. What do you think let us

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Speaker 2: know eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five point fifty the number to

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Speaker 2: join us to Bob in Rochester next.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Bob, Well, Chris and Steve.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree with you on Greg Russou. He's he's

868
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Speaker 10: due to get back in rhythm there. You know, he

869
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 10: he you know, he can be h. He can take

870
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Speaker 10: a blot of pressure off Bosa and I think would

871
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 10: be beneficial for the team. The question I have is

872
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 10: about Landon Jackson. What's going on with him? I think

873
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 10: this would be a good game to maybe get him

874
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 10: to see some action and you know, experience New Orleans.

875
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 10: I mean, you can't take him for granted, but I

876
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 10: think we have enough room where we can see what

877
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 10: he's got.

878
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned that as a possibility. Bob,

879
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: for two reasons is number one. Coach McDermott last week

880
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: was asked on the heels of the Dolphins game, how

881
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: close is Landon Jackson to getting a game day jersey,

882
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: and he said he was very close to getting one

883
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: last week against the Dolphins. So you know, he's doing

884
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: all the right things in practice because he's meriting consideration

885
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: for being up on game day, and number two, the

886
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: scenario you paint a perceived lesser opponent. I remember Spencer

887
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: Brown got his first career start in week four of

888
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: his rookie season at right tackle against a down Houston

889
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Texans team, and it was a game that the Bills

890
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Speaker 2: won forty to nothing.

891
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Here at home.

892
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's gonna happen on Sunday, but I

893
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: think you could argue some of the same elements are

894
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: in place here that might lend itself to giving a

895
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Speaker 2: young player an opportunity this weekend.

896
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Speaker 1: That that's probably all true, although I'm not one hundred

897
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: percent sure that it is. I'm the way it sounds

898
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: to me, because don't forget, if Landon Jackson is active,

899
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: somebody else is not right, and they've got every right

900
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: to feel like they're doing all the right things just

901
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: like Landon Jackson is, and in fact have done more

902
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: of the right things because they've been active and Landon

903
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: Jackson hasn't been. So when you say you've got room,

904
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: it means you feel like you've got a margin of

905
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: error to play a player who's not as good, give

906
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: him some reps. See if you're not as experience, we're

907
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: not aerience, and well, the simple fact of the matter

908
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: is the guy who is more experienced and playing better

909
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: gets the job. That's all there is to it. There's

910
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: no there's none of this. We're gonna give this guy

911
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: a chance and you're gonna sit down for a week.

912
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: You're also assuming that the guys that have been playing

913
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: have been performing up to expectations the first three weeks.

914
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Speaker 1: That's right, There is something to that as well. So

915
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: if there is a say, for instance, if the guys

916
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: who play a bunch aren't gonna get deactivated, the guys

917
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: right before them will. So even then, even then, now

918
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: the D line may be a different place be Lann

919
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: and jack because so many guys do play. Maybe there

920
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: is a space, maybe there is a rotational combination they

921
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: like better with Land and Jackson in there. But it's

922
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: not just it's not just about this isn't you know,

923
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Junior league Pop Warner. Yeah, it's not Pop Warner football here.

924
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: You don't get participation trophies. You're not looking to get

925
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: a Letterman's jacket for getting a you know, getting a

926
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: game in. You play when you're the best option for

927
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: the spot on the roster, you're gonna take there's usually

928
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: and in this building, I think that's that's you can

929
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Speaker 1: carve that. And granted nobody just gets it because they

930
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: it's time. You gotta earn it.

931
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here when we come back. Our

932
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Speaker 2: number two begins with our good friend NFL on CBS

933
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Speaker 2: play by playman Andrew Catalan, who's calling Bill Saints on

934
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Speaker 2: Sunday with Charles Davis on the NFL on CBS. We

935
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Speaker 2: catch up with Andrew next here on One Bill's Live

936
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Speaker 2: Presentabody call Out of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

937
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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

938
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Speaker 2: Our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

939
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Speaker 2: with you.

940
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live is the Show.

941
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us and joining us now on the show.

942
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Speaker 2: A man who'll be calling the game on the NFL

943
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Speaker 2: on CBS. It's play by play announcer Andrew Catalan, also

944
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: the play by play man for the Bills preseason television

945
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Speaker 2: broadcasts with one Steve Tasker and uh cat Man.

946
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.

947
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Speaker 2: As always, you'll be up here for Saints Bills to

948
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Speaker 2: call it for the NFL on CBS, and the Saints

949
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: are a team that you have already called one of

950
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: their games just last week up in Seattle, What at

951
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: first blush maybe struck you about this Saints team obviously

952
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: off to a tough start here at zero to three,

953
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: and I think we kind of anticipated it. It might

954
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: be a rough go at the start for Kellen Moore

955
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: in his first year as head coach down there with

956
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: you know, finally the cap purge that they had after

957
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: pushing and kicking the can down the road so many years,

958
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: they've kind of stripped the team of some talent. Is

959
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: what was your first blush assessment of this Saints team.

960
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 11: Good to see you boys, looking forward to getting back

961
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 11: up to Buffalo this weekend, and you look a lot

962
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 11: better than the Saints did last week. That was a

963
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 11: really rough performance out there in Seattle. Game was pretty

964
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Speaker 11: much over after the first quarter. And I think the

965
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 11: big thing for them the two things the special teams

966
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 11: were just a total nightmare. Ninety five yard punt return

967
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 11: for a touchdown, they allowed a sixty yard kick return,

968
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 11: they had a punt block, they missed a field goal.

969
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 11: Everything went wrong in the special teams department, and they

970
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 11: also had eleven penalties, and penalties has been a.

971
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 12: Huge part of their season.

972
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Speaker 11: So far, they're among the league leaders in penalties per game,

973
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 11: penalty yards per game, and you know, as you pointed out, Brownie,

974
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 11: they purged a little bit.

975
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 12: They're starting to rebuild.

976
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 11: They got a first year head coach, and they're not

977
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Speaker 11: going to be able to overcome mistakes in those two departments.

978
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 12: Cameron Jordan said it after the fact.

979
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 11: They're not good enough to commit that many penalties and

980
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 11: also have that.

981
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 12: Many special teams mistakes.

982
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 11: So I don't think they're as bad as we saw

983
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 11: or as I saw last Sunday, but they have to

984
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 11: get better in those two areas to try to be

985
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 11: a little more competitive, which they were in their first

986
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Speaker 11: two games. They came close week one against Arizona in

987
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 11: Week two against San Francisco.

988
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they actually look pretty good against San Francisco. I mean,

989
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I told Brownie that I like Spencer

990
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Ratler as a quarterback a little better than I like

991
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Mac Jones for the forty nine ers. In that game,

992
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: he's much more physically talented. It seems like they use

993
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: a little bit up tempo to get him a little

994
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: bit more comfortable and simplify the defensive read maybe get

995
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: him going fast. The defense can't be as complicated or

996
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: as disguised. But I thought Spencer Rattler thus far this

997
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: season has shown some stuff that maybe he's got some

998
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: promise and they could build around his talents.

999
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, you Nell did, Steve.

1000
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 11: They do love the up tempo. That something Kellen Moore

1001
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 11: wants to do more of. Rattler told our crew last

1002
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 11: week that he did it a lot in college, feels

1003
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 11: comfortable with it, and we certainly saw it a lot

1004
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 11: last week in Seattle. Some of it because they were behind,

1005
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 11: but a lot of it because that's the way they

1006
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 11: want to operate. And as far as Rattler, he's got

1007
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 11: a big chip on his shoulder. I think that he

1008
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 11: has had some adversity in his collegiate career, had to transfer,

1009
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Speaker 11: and also, you know, he's sitting at home in April

1010
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 11: and he sees that the Saints draft to quarterback Tyler

1011
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 11: Schuck in the second round and that he told us

1012
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 11: he went right back to work, you know, literally went

1013
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 11: out the door to the gym as soon as the

1014
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 11: Saints picked him, and he said he wasn't, you know,

1015
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 11: totally caught off guard by it. But that has motivated him, So,

1016
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 11: you know, I think that Saints fans hope that he's

1017
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 11: Drew Brees.

1018
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 12: Light He's not Drew Brees.

1019
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 11: But that he can know is that smaller stature can

1020
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 11: move in the pocket, he can use his legs.

1021
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 12: They didn't take a.

1022
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 11: Lot of shots down the field last week. That's the

1023
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 11: one part of his game that I don't know too

1024
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 11: much about as of yet. But you're right, he's got

1025
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 11: a little spunk about him and probably will be fired

1026
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 11: up to kind of come on the road and see

1027
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 11: what he can do in Buffalo.

1028
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: Flipping it over to their defense, Andrew, you know, we're

1029
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: kind of told that this is a defensive unit that

1030
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: will take risks here and there from time to time.

1031
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: And maybe it's a byproduct of falling behind on the

1032
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: scoreboard last week. Maybe that's one game sample that might

1033
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: not be accurate on the whole. But I have to

1034
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: believe that if they don't know or aren't sure their

1035
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: offense can keep up with a high octane offense like

1036
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: that of Buffalo, that they are going to be a

1037
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: little more high risk on defense. Maybe try to force

1038
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: it turnover, something Buffalo hasn't done yet this season. What

1039
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: do you think of that maybe them being you know,

1040
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: willing to take more risks to try to you know,

1041
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: be competitive in a game that has a sixteen point

1042
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: spread right now.

1043
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they have to, Chris.

1044
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 11: I mean, their pass rush was pretty much non existent

1045
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 11: last week, and you know.

1046
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 12: It got off to a pretty good start.

1047
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 11: Carl Granderson had three and a half sacks in the

1048
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 11: first two games, but they didn't have any sacks last

1049
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 11: week in Seattle. And the back end, in their secondary,

1050
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 11: there's definitely some question marks. Isaac Yadam has committed some

1051
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 11: penalties and has allowed some big plays. Kool Aid mckinstrey,

1052
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 11: who was a second round pick, hasn't really flashed so

1053
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 11: far in his career. You know, they lost Julian Blackman,

1054
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 11: who was their safety after Week one. He's out for

1055
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 11: the year. So now they start a rookie at Jonas Sanker.

1056
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 11: So they've got some questions in the back end. I mean,

1057
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 11: in the middle, they're solid to Mario Davis is still

1058
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 11: getting it done at the age of thirty six, which

1059
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 11: is incredible. Pete Werner had a really good game at

1060
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 11: linebacker last week. He let the team and tackles in Seattle.

1061
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 11: But they're going to need more out of that pass

1062
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 11: rush and how they go about accomplishing that with Brandon Staley,

1063
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 11: the former Chargers head coach who's now their defensive coordinator,

1064
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 11: is certainly a big piece of the puzzle here on

1065
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 11: Sunday for the Saints.

1066
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: What's the recipe for the Saints to beat a team

1067
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: like Buffalo?

1068
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 11: Well, Steve, I mean, we talked to it. They got

1069
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 11: to clean up the penalties and the special teams. They

1070
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 11: can't turn the ball over, and they did a pretty

1071
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 11: good job of that in their first two games.

1072
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 12: And they're gonna have to hit some deep shots down

1073
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 12: the field.

1074
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 11: You know, Chris o'lave had ten catches last week, but

1075
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 11: none of them went for ten yards or longer. Juwan

1076
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 11: Johnson has proved to be a capable tight end, but

1077
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 11: he's also mixed in some drops. Brandon Cooks is a

1078
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 11: receiver they brought in this year, brought him back as

1079
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 11: he started his career there. He hasn't really done much

1080
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 11: so far. And you know, I think the ultimate X

1081
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 11: factor is Alvin Kamara. He's still got it. He's thirty

1082
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 11: years old, but he can still play. He's had one

1083
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 11: thousand yards from scrimmage every single year of his career.

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00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 12: In fact, he's got the most rushing yards of.

1085
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 11: Any player in NFL history who was not rushed for

1086
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 11: one thousand yards in a season.

1087
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Speaker 12: So I thought that was an interesting one. But now

1088
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 12: he's a guy.

1089
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 11: That's still dangerous and they're gonna have to use him,

1090
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 11: hope for some turnovers. And look, I guess if you

1091
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 11: want to try to take a positive from last week,

1092
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 11: it was super loud in Seattle, as it always is.

1093
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 11: They had a lot of penalties fall star penalties. Maybe

1094
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 11: that helps them a little bit because it'll be equally

1095
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 11: as loud as we know in Buffalo, and they've kind

1096
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 11: of already had a test run, so to speak, in

1097
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 11: terms of you know, this silent count and how they're communication.

1098
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 11: They need to improve upon going into this week. But look,

1099
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 11: you mentioned the spread, you mentioned how it's looked so far.

1100
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, on paper, this is a tough

1101
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 11: one for New Orleans.

1102
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, the need for them to maybe

1103
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: take some more deep shots.

1104
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: And I was looking at, you.

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Know, Rattler's numbers, and obviously he has a high completion percentage,

1106
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: but his yards per attempt is like five point four.

1107
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: It's one of the lowest in the league.

1108
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: Do you see that more as a byproduct of Kellen

1109
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: Moore saying we got to get the ball out of

1110
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: his hands quickly because our protection isn't consistent enough. Do

1111
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: you think there are other factors contributing to that get

1112
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: it out of his hand quick, throw it short and

1113
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: hope our playmakers can get yards after the catch.

1114
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1115
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 12: I think Chris to your point, turnovers were.

1116
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 11: A big problem for Rattler last year, and Kellen Moore

1117
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 11: told us that was priority number one to clean up

1118
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 11: the turnovers. So I think it is a little bit

1119
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 11: of that dink and dunk. Let's protect the ball, let's

1120
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 11: not give it, you know, let's not turn it over.

1121
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 11: He did have a pick last week, but you know,

1122
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 11: he's done a pretty good job in that department. But

1123
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 11: you're right, he's not really stretching the field. They're really

1124
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 11: challenging the defense down of the field. So I think

1125
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 11: it's more and more trying to protect the football. But

1126
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 11: at some point that's.

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00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 12: Not going to work.

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Speaker 11: And now first year head coach is interesting. I know

1129
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 11: Sean McDermott. It was in the Bills notes this week.

1130
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 11: He's twenty one and seven against first year head coaches.

1131
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 11: Kellen Moore is only thirty seven years old. We were

1132
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 11: talking to Mario Davis last week and he told us

1133
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 11: that they were Senior Bowl teammates. I mean they came

1134
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 11: out in the same year. Davis who still plays, and

1135
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 11: Kellen Moore is now.

1136
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 12: As head coach. So yeah, look, there's some challenges there.

1137
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 11: The week one, he took all three of his time

1138
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 11: outs into the halftime locker room. Last week he settled

1139
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 11: for a field goal when he was down thirty when

1140
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 11: he could have gone for it. I still think that

1141
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 11: he's figuring things out and you have to give him

1142
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 11: a chance. He's only coached three games, but this is

1143
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 11: a team that is rebuilding and trying to you know,

1144
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 11: get the ship ready for the future.

1145
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that. For me, he seems to

1146
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: have a pretty solid staff of coaches around him. Brandon

1147
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Staley's a really well an accepted defensive coordinator. Kellen Moore

1148
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: himself has been a you know, Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator.

1149
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: What are they what is it look like, and what

1150
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: do they feel like they're doing right so far?

1151
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they have good leadership. Cameron Jordan is

1152
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 11: a tremendous leader.

1153
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: To Mario.

1154
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 12: Davis is a guy that certainly has been a rock

1155
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 12: down there in New Orleans.

1156
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Speaker 11: And I think that this is a team that the

1157
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 11: first two weeks had a chance to win games. They

1158
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 11: play hard. Even last week, even though the score doesn't

1159
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 11: reflect it. Forced to fumble in the fourth quarter, they

1160
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 11: kept them, you know, they kept trying to go after it.

1161
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 12: They didn't just fold in the tent and get on

1162
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 12: the plane.

1163
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Speaker 11: I think that the culture that he's trying to build

1164
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 11: is one that'll fight, that'll play hard.

1165
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 12: They're not going to lay down. They're not going to

1166
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 12: be intimidated.

1167
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Speaker 11: It's just a question of how much talent they have

1168
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 11: to see how many wins they get this year.

1169
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Speaker 2: I'm curious, Andrews, since you were here and observe the

1170
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: Bills in the preseason, you know, you kind of probably

1171
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: developed some thoughts and inklings as to what this offense

1172
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: would look like once we got to the regular season.

1173
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: After three games, the Bills aren't just a really good

1174
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: running team. They're the best running team in football, to

1175
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: the tune of one hundred and sixty three rushing yards

1176
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: a game. I think we all thought this was going

1177
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: to be a good running team. Did you think it

1178
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: would be a top of the league rushing team.

1179
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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I mean, Chris, when in the preseason we

1180
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 11: didn't really see much of James Cook as you would expect.

1181
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 12: We didn't see Josh either, so it's not a surprise.

1182
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 12: But he's been running.

1183
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't think I've seen him play this well.

1184
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 11: I mean, we know what he's capable of. We know

1185
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 11: he had a huge year last year and warranted the

1186
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 11: contract in the offseason over the summer, but he's just

1187
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 11: running at a different level right now. To me, the

1188
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 11: line seems to be gelling really well. The continuity there

1189
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 11: we know about, as.

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Speaker 12: You guys know.

1191
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Speaker 11: I've found it interesting in watching the first three games

1192
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 11: after having been there in the preseason.

1193
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 12: The Elijah Moore.

1194
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 11: He I think has found a nice little role in

1195
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 11: this offense. And I love what they're doing with the

1196
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 11: three tight ends in Jackson Halls. I mean, I think

1197
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 11: that's you know, you know, you look at Alec Anderson.

1198
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 11: He's only played seven percent of the snaps in the

1199
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 11: first three games compared to last year when he was

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 11: a fixture out there as the extra offensive lineman. It's

1201
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 11: such a new dimension. We saw the touchdown last week

1202
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 11: against Miami. So I really think Joe Brady has done

1203
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 11: a very nice job putting this all together. And you know,

1204
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 11: you don't see all of it in the preseason for

1205
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 11: good reason, but you're starting to.

1206
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 12: See it now and boys have been impressive.

1207
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: It's always interesting for me to ask somebody like you

1208
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: who watches a ton of football, and you've seen this

1209
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: team in the preseason, of course, but you also saw

1210
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: him last year in their iteration. If you parachuted in

1211
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: from last year to this year, is there a significant

1212
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: difference to you in how this team seems to want

1213
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: to win games.

1214
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 12: I think the three tight end thing is interesting.

1215
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 13: I do.

1216
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 11: I think that that is a difference, and I think

1217
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 11: a difference maker. I think Dalton Kincaid and you heard

1218
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 11: Josh talk about it all summer about how you know

1219
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 11: he missed a couple of big plays to Kincaid last year.

1220
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 11: That's something he wanted to get right, to get on

1221
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 11: the relationship with him. And I mean, they've obviously gotten

1222
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 11: off to a great start, but now you're throwing the

1223
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 11: third tight end. I just think that you know, they

1224
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 11: can beach in so many different ways, and you know,

1225
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 11: I think when you're a defense, you have to prepare

1226
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 11: for so many different options with this offense. Is Josh

1227
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 11: gonna run? Where's Cook going to be? Now you've got

1228
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 11: an extra tight end in. We can go with four

1229
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 11: wides if we want. I just think that when you're

1230
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 11: an opponent and you've got to spend all week trying

1231
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 11: to figure out what Brady and what Josh is going

1232
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 11: to do.

1233
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 12: It's going to drive you crazy. And I think that's

1234
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 12: a huge advantage they have this year.

1235
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: Andrew, thanks very much for the time, as always, Safe

1236
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: travels up here, and we'll see you up here this weekend.

1237
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 12: GAT wait to see you guys. Thanks so much.

1238
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: All right, Ken, that's Andrew Catalan NFL on CBS play

1239
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: by play broadcast. You're going to be doing the game

1240
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: on CBS Sunday with Charles Davis, Jason mccordy, and sideline

1241
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: reporter A J.

1242
01:03:59,520 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: Ross.

1243
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: So kick off at one first home kickoff at one

1244
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: pm this season.

1245
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: It's there's not that many of them, no, because they're

1246
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: right back in primetime next week. I'm sure a lot

1247
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: of our listeners had have heard the rumblings and the

1248
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: and the you know, rhetoric coming out of the ticket

1249
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: office here in Buffalo. And also they said it on

1250
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: the on the broadcast this last weekend, this ticket is

1251
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: impossible to get. I had friends calling because of the

1252
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: time slote and the time of the year, the time

1253
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: of the year, the weather has been spectacular. It's a

1254
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: one o'clock game. It's going to be a great weekend

1255
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: and it's a one o'clock game, right. I had to

1256
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: tell my friends I couldn't get it. They had to

1257
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: go to the secondary mart. I couldn't get them tickets. Yeah,

1258
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: they're gone. Yeah, even that, even even like the secret

1259
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: stash is like the super secret double indemnity kind of

1260
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: yah pool that they have like for emergency. It's like

1261
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: break class for emergency. It's already been broken. Yeah, it

1262
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: was broken. There was no tickets.

1263
01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1264
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: I was glad I got an early start on this

1265
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: one because my sister's family's coming up to this game

1266
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: to get the first Bill's game, and I got that

1267
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: stuff locked up in like early August. And I'm glad

1268
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: I did because I wasn't. I mean, who would have

1269
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: expected Bill Saints. This is not in demand because of

1270
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: the matchup.

1271
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: That's right, It's in demand because of it's been a

1272
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: spectacular weather. It's been great September autumn, and you just

1273
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to do this.

1274
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what people grew up with as the regular

1275
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote regular Sunday route.

1276
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: Every Sunday routine. We couldn't buy a primetime game. Now

1277
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: we can't get out of it. We can't. You know,

1278
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll I'll take the ladder. You forget how fun it

1279
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: is't go you know, just it's your home. Like your home,

1280
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: you get a chance to rest, you shower up, clean up,

1281
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: and go out and watch the watch the night game.

1282
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: Well right, you're saying after the game here, Yeah, you

1283
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: can actually have dinner at home at a normal time

1284
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: and then watch Sunday night foot.

1285
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: Watch Sunday Night football. Just it's the best, the absolute best.

1286
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: We do. We do Postgame Live, Maddi glab and I

1287
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: do Postgame Live. You're you're out of here. We're doing

1288
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: in postgame Live. Then after we do Postgame Live, we

1289
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: take bills tonight that they showed during the week. It's

1290
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: a postgame show and it's the recap and the highlights

1291
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: and YadA YadA, YadA YadA. It takes us an hour.

1292
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: We get out of here at like six thirty and

1293
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: it's just the best. There's two right on out man,

1294
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: still daylight, it's the best. Pretty good, It is pretty

1295
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1296
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: Uh still asking you at eight oh three zero five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eight a eight five fifty two five

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 2: point fifty, what Bills player do you want to see

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Speaker 2: breakout here in week four? Maybe it's a veteran player

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01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: that you think has gotten off to a bit of

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01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: a slow start and you're waiting for them to emerge

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: and have an impact on the game. Maybe it's a

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01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: young player that you'd like to see a little bit

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: more out of or see burst onto the scene here

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: this Sunday against the Saints. Aight oh three five point

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two, five

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: point fifty are the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 1: We do have some open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: We are going to crack open the tweets sheeet though,

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Speaker 2: which is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And that's

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Speaker 2: where Jacob says Ray Davis being more effective in his

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01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: carries if he continues to underwhelm, I fear the lightweight

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01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: fleet of foot Jimbo Cook will wear down or be

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: susceptible to injury.

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: We need him for the late run.

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01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: Same goes for Bosa, although I expect his workload to

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01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: decrease when Hoyt comes back. What do we make of that, Steve,

1319
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: because you noted it last week that Cook's workload is

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: up considerably from what it has been the previous two

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01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: seasons when he took over the.

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: Quote unquote feature back role.

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: And I think there is something to be said for

1324
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: wearing down over the course of his seventeen game season.

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Speaker 2: And you think about how important James Cook was in

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: that AFC Championship game against the chi Without him, it's

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: not a close game.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I would say that last year that wasn't

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: a concern. You only had two hundred carries over the

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: course of you know, seven eighteen weeks, twenty weeks with

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01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm just I just trust that here, with

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01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: the biometrics that they have, they monitor these guys during

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: practice and know they'll manage the load as they get

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: down the down stretch. I don't think there's any question

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: they're handing it to him consciously more than they have

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01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't think it has anything to

1337
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: do with the money. I think it has to do

1338
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: with how good he is and how what a problem

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: he is. I think they probably heard some feedback from

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: around the league, from different coaching staffs and you know,

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: friends and relationships about what they what other teams think

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01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: of that dude. And I think, well, if they think

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: that we're gonna we're gonna exploit it, you know. I

1344
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of that going on. But

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: as I said, he only had two hundred and eight

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: carries last year. I think this, what'd I say he

1347
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: was on pace for? Like, I don't think he'll come back. Yeah,

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: it'll come back to the mean. But you know, they

1349
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: haven't had to do they haven't had to throw the

1350
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: ball all over the yard yet. Well except for the

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Speaker 1: second half in Week one. That's two quarters. That's about it.

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: Two out of twelve quarters is not.

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01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: I will say this about Ray Davis. I think in

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: the opportunities he's had thus far, for some reason, there's

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: been a propensity by him to try to bounce runs

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01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: outside rather than just hitting the hole and taking the

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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: run where it's designed to go. Because I feel he's

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: a downhill one cut runner by nature. He's not a

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,839
Speaker 2: bounce it outside guy that's going to find a tremendous

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: amount of success out there. So I just want to

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: see him get back to doing what he does best,

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: which is coming downhill and lowering shoulders and popping safeties

1363
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: out of the hole and knocking people on their backsides.

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: That is the kind of runner that Ray is and

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: we haven't seen that yet.

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: To Jacob's point, yeah, they when Ray has gotten most

1367
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: of his carries in the past or at this point

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: of his career, you have very young career. You know,

1369
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just to put a nail in the you know,

1370
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: in the game, you know, to shut.

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 2: Down or set the tone in the game, like he

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: did in Week six against the Jets last year was

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 2: cook out of the lineup.

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01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: That's right, nine straight runs, ten straight runs, dropping Sauce

1375
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: Gardener on his shoulder blades. I uh, there's a little

1376
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: bit of that going on, and I don't know that

1377
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: he's you know that they've evolved away from that a

1378
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: little bit. But when he's in the game and they're

1379
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: handing it to him on a regular basis, it's usually

1380
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: the game is trying to be over.

1381
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to step aside, take a break here,

1382
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: but more of your phone calls when we come back.

1383
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: Will lead off with Judy in Buffalo when we return

1384
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health,

1385
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1386
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: PRIs brown Seed Tasker on a Wednesday, where we're asking

1387
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 2: you which Bill's player do you want.

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01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: To see break out?

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: In week four, we return to the phones and we

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: go to Judy in Buffalo, and Judy, welcome back to

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: the show. A lot of your fellow listeners, we're missing

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: you here on the show, so glad to have you back.

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 14: Well, I appreciate that I just haven't had much to say.

1394
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 14: I've been very happy with the way the buildings playing

1395
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 14: fair enough.

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 13: But.

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Speaker 14: I'm concerned. I haven't really heard Greg Russo's name called

1398
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 14: much in these first three games, and I really thought

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 14: that this would be a year where he started the

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 14: impactful player. So I'm saying I would like him to

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 14: break out this week. I would like to see a

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 14: sack or two, or at least it calls on tackles

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 14: or something. I'm very concerned that he is getting lost

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 14: in the shuffle.

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a valid concern, Judy, and thanks for the call.

1406
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: I mentioned him as the guy I'd like to see

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: breakout because he's been uncharacteristically quiet through the first three weeks.

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, I think yeah. I think part of

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: it is.

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: And Daikwon Jones told us this when he appeared on

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: our show during training camp, that they are taking a

1412
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 2: little bit of a different approach up front. This traditionally

1413
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: has been a front four that has been coached to

1414
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: attack up the field. Whether it's a run play, a

1415
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: pass play, down in distance does not matter. It's attack, attack, attack,

1416
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: attack at all times. Now they are mixing in a

1417
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: little bit more of the read element of defensive line play.

1418
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: Let's read what's happening first and then attack, or let's

1419
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: read and react and then make the play. I don't

1420
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: know if that change in philosophy is affecting his ability

1421
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: to fire and go, because, as we know, he's a

1422
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: thinker when it comes to him as a player, his

1423
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: his makeup as a player. He's a thinker, which often

1424
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 2: can help him anticipate things that are coming. But if

1425
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: he's not one hundred percent sure and he's thinking now,

1426
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: he's not playing fast. So I think all of that

1427
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: is probably rolled into what has compromised his effectiveness through

1428
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: the first three weeks. But I'm just as anxious as

1429
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: you and Judy to see him get back to performing

1430
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: and him showing up making noticeable, impactful plays.

1431
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's been noticed by a lot of people.

1432
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: He just haven't heard his name, you know, even even

1433
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: casual fans or now I've heard. I've also heard some

1434
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: guys online and who watched a him this and now

1435
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: he's been really solid. He's been solid, and you know

1436
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: that that kind of goes along with he's always been

1437
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: solid and you know, sometimes once in a while spectacular,

1438
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: but usually he's a very solid player. And they say,

1439
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: and it seems like he's continuing to be solid, but

1440
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: he hasn't shown up. And this defense because of their

1441
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: third down lack of success in this last game and

1442
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: their fourth down lack of success, you know, it's hard

1443
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: for them to get off the field, so it doesn't

1444
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: feel like they're being as productive as maybe they are.

1445
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: And maybe they're not that far away. But yeah, it's

1446
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: it's a that's a name that has come up in

1447
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: our conversations.

1448
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: Break time for us here because when we come back

1449
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: We're going to be joined in studio by maybe one

1450
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: of the tallest players on the team. One Spencer Brown

1451
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: will be joining us and making us look rather small

1452
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: here on set. Next on One Bill's Live, presented by

1453
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: Klida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back

1454
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and Bill's

1455
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Spencer Brown joining us here in studio on

1456
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: the show. Player interview appearances on One Bill's Live or

1457
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: presented by Tim Horton's Tim Horton's the Official Coffee of

1458
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Uh, Spence, You had a long weekend

1459
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: after the Thursday night games, get a chance to do

1460
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: anything fun.

1461
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 15: Or I laid down for about nine percent of it,

1462
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 15: just laid down and watch movies.

1463
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: That short, compressed week really puts a lot of demand

1464
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: on the body, even early in the season. So you're

1465
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: just looking to get off your feet when you come

1466
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: out of that game, right.

1467
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 15: Absolutely, it's a lot to put on the body and

1468
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 15: mentally just trying to get ready for any team. But

1469
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 15: you know that's short week. Some guys might dip out

1470
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 15: and go Toronto, but I was, I was laying down.

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: I believe the game. He came out of the game.

1472
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: Okay everything, Yeah, yeah, all for the most part, you

1473
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: were hampering. One of the things that bothered you once

1474
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: in a while as you're back, and what it's is it

1475
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: something they keep you in therapy, They give you exercise

1476
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.

1477
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 15: That's just something you come in every single day and

1478
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 15: you know, activated and they have they have a system

1479
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 15: and exercising you do every single day.

1480
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: So it's just bread and butter and taking care of

1481
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 3: the body.

1482
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of the prehab they do here. Yeah,

1483
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: it's pretty behavior today off as well. You're yeah, a

1484
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: little bit of a calf.

1485
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, first drive was kind of got a little weird

1486
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 15: on meduring our last game.

1487
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: But it should be.

1488
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: Good looking at this offense through three games. I remember

1489
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: we had Connor in here with us during training camp

1490
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: when we're out of Fisher and we asked him, Hey,

1491
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: what's a young guy on the team or a new

1492
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: guy on the team that's really impressed you And he

1493
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: couldn't have said spent Jackson Haw's name fast enough And

1494
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: I know you know you were a tight end back

1495
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: in the day eight man football, But what are your

1496
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: impressions of Jackson thus far, because it's clear that Joe

1497
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,919
Speaker 2: Brady has no problem. He was in thirteen and twelve personnel,

1498
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: and you guys are playing bullyball with just about everybody absolutely.

1499
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 15: You know, Hawes is just from the jump from spring

1500
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 15: training in the fall camp. And I wasn't there at

1501
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 15: the beginning of it working with him, but just what

1502
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 15: he was putting on tape was very impressive, you know,

1503
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 15: and get a lot of rookie tight ends will come

1504
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 15: in and put their hand on the ground and bully around,

1505
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 15: you know, six seven year defensive ends in the NFL. Yeah,

1506
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 15: you know, when he's lined up next to me, I

1507
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 15: have full confidence and it's just like another offensive lineman

1508
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 15: out there almost.

1509
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: And we're talking like advanced blocking techniques too, like climbing,

1510
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: hitting your target, driving, Like He's not like you get

1511
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: some tight ends nowadays that are catching eighty passes a

1512
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: year in college. They come here, they got work to do.

1513
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: He seems much more advanced in that line of work

1514
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: for that.

1515
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 15: I mean, yeah, it's not just like hey block this

1516
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 15: guy and pray that it works out. You know, there's

1517
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 15: a lot that goes into it. I know Boris works

1518
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 15: those guys extremely well, very detailed. So he's just taking

1519
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 15: a coaching extremely well and believing in the techniques. That's

1520
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 15: another thing that guys battle when they come in here,

1521
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 15: they're learning a whole new thing that they were used

1522
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 15: to for four years in college. And you know, he

1523
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 15: just came in and done everything he's been told to

1524
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:48,839
Speaker 15: and excelling.

1525
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: So what's your offensive line room? Think about all the

1526
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: three tight end two tight end stuff you're doing.

1527
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're a fan of its work.

1528
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 3: It's working pretty well.

1529
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 15: You know, there's some schemes that we've been running quite

1530
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 15: a bit in the first couple of weeks that we

1531
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 15: didn't run a lot of last years because we weren't

1532
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 15: efficient at it, and now all those boys are rolling

1533
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 15: in the tight end room.

1534
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: It's working well.

1535
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: So talk about that a little bit, Spencer, because I'm curious.

1536
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: I would say one of the bigger changes with the

1537
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: run game is how much you guys have diversified it.

1538
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: Like last year, you guys relied on a lot of

1539
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: the duo stuff and the tackle poll stuff with you

1540
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: and Dion, and that was kind of bread and butter

1541
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: for you guys, and you were really good at it.

1542
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, if it works, keep going, But it looked

1543
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: like Coach Cromer and Coach Brady it kind of huddled

1544
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 2: up in the lab in the offseason. And while they

1545
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: want to diversify, you guys still have to be good

1546
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 2: at executing it. But how much do you feel you

1547
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: guys have capably expanded the menu for Coach Brady to

1548
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: call on a given game day.

1549
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 15: I mean, I think it helps out a lot, just

1550
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 15: schematically going against teams. Now with the tackle poll and

1551
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 15: the doo and stuff like that, you can only run

1552
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 15: that so many times until the defense will put their

1553
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 15: foot in the ground and then say we're not running

1554
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 15: this again. So now that you have you know, two

1555
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 15: three tight ends in the game, you can run those plays.

1556
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 15: And also you can see Howsey can catch, Dawson can catch,

1557
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 15: Dalton can catch. So it's just you can run those plays,

1558
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 15: build up, build up. Also we can send these three

1559
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 15: guys on a route as well, so it just comes

1560
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 15: into play with every single scheme we're trying to you know,

1561
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 15: put out there. But having those three guys working really

1562
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 15: well with us is a huge advantage.

1563
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: You're one of the teams that it felt like and

1564
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how it felt to you guys. You know,

1565
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: you get into the Jet game, and of course you

1566
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: get up from they struggled to score against your defense.

1567
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: But you get in the Miami game, you know those

1568
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: guys have got some firepower on that their offense. Of course,

1569
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: Baltimore game was an absolute roller coaster of a ride.

1570
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: But you get into this game against Miami, get even

1571
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: the Jet game to a certain extent, you feel like

1572
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: you've got another gear. We've seen this offense have another gear,

1573
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: Josh Obbs. Obviously you went through in the last five

1574
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: minutes of the Baltimore game. You shifted that gear and

1575
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: put your foot on a gas. But you're scoring thirty

1576
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: points a game, even though you know it doesn't feel

1577
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: like you've really hit your stride yet. You guys have

1578
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: conversations like that.

1579
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's funny to bring that up because I ha

1580
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 15: a Dalton at his house sometime this week. But I

1581
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 15: was just like, dude, if we have like two, three,

1582
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 15: three and outs, it feels like we're like, what the

1583
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 15: hell's going on?

1584
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 16: Right?

1585
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 15: And I used to come off the field after three plays,

1586
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 15: But you know, Brady always preaches that get one first

1587
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 15: down and then that will set you up for the

1588
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 15: rest of the drive. So really the hardest part of

1589
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 15: a drive is just getting it started, getting the ball rolling,

1590
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 15: and then once you do that, you can start dipping

1591
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 15: in other buckets of how to attack and instead of

1592
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 15: just three plays, oh we got to restart again, So

1593
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 15: just getting the ball rolling and be'st way to go

1594
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 15: about that.

1595
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: And then what what would you say? So we've already

1596
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: talked to you a lot about twelve and thirteen personnel,

1597
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: so I actually went and looked it up. So when

1598
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,440
Speaker 1: you guys are in twelve and thirteen through three games,

1599
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: you're averaging seven point two yards per carry. That leads

1600
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. So yes, it is very good.

1601
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: But to your point, you're gonna get to a point

1602
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: in the season where Coach Brady I'm thinking, might be like, hey,

1603
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: we got a few tendency breakers in the game plan here,

1604
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: and you've already mentioned like how many different variations you

1605
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: can spin off of the run game in twelve and

1606
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: thirteen because you got three guys that can catch. I mean,

1607
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: do you guys feel that in some ways you can

1608
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: remain unpredictable even in those sets because of all those

1609
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: variations that can come off of it.

1610
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the variations help a lot.

1611
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 15: And even as the season goes on, we'll see how

1612
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 15: people are trying to scheme against us and how to

1613
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 15: you know, stop the things that we're doing, and then

1614
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 15: we'll start throwing in the little wrinkles as well. You know,

1615
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 15: I can do it. I'm not gonna get into it

1616
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 15: and start giving stuff away. But that Brady Chrome and Boris,

1617
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 15: I mean, they're heads together and they said they spent

1618
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 15: two three days together over this by you know, looking

1619
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 15: at the past three games and things that we can

1620
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 15: switch and make better.

1621
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward. It should be so rolling.

1622
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

1623
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Time now for this week's tim Bits time Out Question

1624
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: for Spencer's presented by Tim Horton's, where we asked the

1625
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 2: fans to ask Bill's players a unique question. This one

1626
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: comes from Andrew and he says, we all know you

1627
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 2: have a farming background, and we know Josh Allen.

1628
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: Also grew up on a farm.

1629
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: Do you guys ever talk about farming and are there

1630
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: any far any farming stories that you can share?

1631
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: Well?

1632
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: Do you talk about farming? First of all?

1633
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 15: Is that come up every I mean we've talked about

1634
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 15: a little bit, but it's not like a mainstay in

1635
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 15: our conversations. But there's one story, but I don't think

1636
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 15: you would want me to say. Okay, so definitely not

1637
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 15: suitable for the air, but a lot of that goes

1638
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 15: on out there. It's very natural world.

1639
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: So Josh.

1640
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: Josh used to always say that the most challenging work

1641
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: on his farm was laying irrigation pipe because you get

1642
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 2: a hot summer day and you gotta lay that pipe.

1643
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: That metal is hot. Obviously you got to wear long

1644
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: sleeves or you can get burned. What would you say

1645
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: was the hardest task on your farm growing up? What

1646
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: was the most challenging task.

1647
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: We never had to lay your gation pipe.

1648
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 15: Now there's rain out there, and yeah, that's God's country apparently.

1649
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 15: But probably the worst thing that I hated doing was

1650
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 15: walking beans or chopping thistles.

1651
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Being we're talking here, Yeah, yeah, it was. So you

1652
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 3: do the crawd rotation.

1653
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 15: So one one year it's corn one of your beans

1654
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 15: of flip flops, but you'd be straight kernels that end

1655
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 15: up on the ground and then when spring or when

1656
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 15: summer comes around, they start growing those the cornstocks will

1657
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 15: start growing with the beans. So you go out there

1658
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 15: and my dad would just drop us off at like

1659
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 15: eight in the morning, be like be back at noon,

1660
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 15: and you just have a water jugg in here walking

1661
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 15: around a beanfield for four hours.

1662
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: You're hand picking and what do you got a bag

1663
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: a satchel over your shoulder to just just pull it

1664
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: and lay it down, let.

1665
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: It, shop it and throw it down the thistles.

1666
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 15: That was the more annoying part because you'd have to

1667
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 15: take the buds off of every thistle, put in a bag,

1668
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 15: and then shop the plant out.

1669
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the thistles got all the seeds and you

1670
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: don't want those.

1671
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Germany that's all the seeds go.

1672
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: So that's just really tedious. Time pipe is actually leasier

1673
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: than that because you you just gotta I just gotta

1674
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: screw it together and walk away. You have to screw

1675
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: it together. They just they pop together with a with

1676
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,440
Speaker 1: a gasket and just slide it in and Southwest Kansas knowledge.

1677
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: And let him know they didn't do anything out there.

1678
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: Well, Spence, listen, thanks for taking some time. I'm stopping by.

1679
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Stay healthy and good luck the rest

1680
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: of the way. That Spencer Brown joining us here on

1681
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. We will pivot now to the post

1682
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: practice podium where Josh Allen is addressing the media.

1683
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 12: Where's your chemistry right now with going into the game.

1684
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 11: So coming into the season, we've talked about how he

1685
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 11: gets just team it can get there.

1686
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 5: Where are you right now?

1687
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel like we're in a good spot.

1688
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 17: Obviously, continuing to grow each and every day coming out

1689
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 17: here in practicing and making sure we're still communicating, trying

1690
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 17: to get on the same page and stay the same page.

1691
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 17: But the guy always finds himself in good positions. He

1692
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 17: does everything the right way. He's following the football. You know,

1693
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 17: he's doing a good job of catching the ball and scoring.

1694
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 17: So we'd love when we can you know, rely on

1695
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 17: somebody that when you throw it up, they're gonna come

1696
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 17: down with it.

1697
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 13: And you know he's been proven to do that.

1698
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 16: You've seen this team make some transition them from not

1699
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 16: just winning but not beating itself, especially the way you

1700
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 16: guys have won two of the three games.

1701
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, I think coach always talks about it

1702
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 17: in mind set, in the ball.

1703
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 13: And taking care of football.

1704
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 17: That's that's my main job, you know, take care of

1705
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 17: the football and score points and do whatever I can

1706
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 17: do to not hurt ourselves, not put us in worse situations,

1707
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 17: trying to take it one play at a time, and

1708
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 17: you know, at the end of the day, each and

1709
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 17: every play you know, doesn't need to be home run.

1710
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 17: But as long as we're taking singles and you know,

1711
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 17: finding finding completions and stay in front of the sticks

1712
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 17: and scoring points.

1713
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 13: Uh, you know, can't argue with the results about the

1714
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 13: colm that this team seems to have.

1715
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 16: You know, if you go back that game on Thursday

1716
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 16: did not reveal itself until late until maybe the flock punt.

1717
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 16: Perhaps the com to stay on track in that sense

1718
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 16: and not worry about, you know, what might happen.

1719
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 17: Yet I think yeah, and I think again the whole

1720
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 17: mindset that we have of being more process driven than

1721
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:58,799
Speaker 17: result driven, you know, continuing to hone in our skills,

1722
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 17: be as prepared as we can be, you know, throughout

1723
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 17: the game, understanding that you know, we've we've repped basically

1724
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 17: any in every situation that we can be in, and

1725
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 17: coach does a great job of giving those those opportunities

1726
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 17: and whether it be in training, camp or practice or

1727
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 17: showing us clips around the league of what's going on,

1728
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 17: you know, and just feeling like we're prepared in any

1729
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 17: situation where we don't have to to stress or try

1730
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 17: to force something to happen, but just go out there

1731
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 17: and play the game.

1732
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: Josh being processed or and then you talked about it

1733
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: last week that visualization works for you.

1734
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 12: Why does that work as a process that we go to.

1735
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 17: Yeah, just ultimately seeing it before it happens and allowing

1736
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 17: yourself to believe that it can and will happen. And

1737
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 17: I think it's a powerful tool that not just myself,

1738
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 17: but a lot of people on this team use. And I

1739
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 17: think doctor Dez does a great job with that of,

1740
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 17: you know, relaying that to certain guys on the team

1741
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 17: that that may need something like that, because you know,

1742
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 17: everybody's got their own type of process that that helps them.

1743
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 13: And that's just something that helps me.

1744
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 18: Talks about taking care of the football, that's not a

1745
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 18: new novel idea first quarterback, but over the last season

1746
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 18: and a half two seasons, you've been really good at protecting.

1747
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 18: Was there something that happened that clicked that it just started,

1748
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,520
Speaker 18: or maybe you just made it more of a priority

1749
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 18: of protecting the ball.

1750
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 13: Well, then I think if you look at it from

1751
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 13: a few different scopes.

1752
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 17: You have Joe Brady, you have James Cook, and you

1753
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 17: have our offensive line, and then you have our skill

1754
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 17: guys and just knowing that, you know, handing the ball

1755
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 17: off and letting James do his thing and allowing us

1756
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 17: to see some more one high and you know, and

1757
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 17: split safety passes again, having a guy like Khalil and

1758
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 17: Indulton that you can rely on, and then we have

1759
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 17: opportunities outside with you know, Keon and Josh and Curtis

1760
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 17: and you know, just that whole everybody eats mentality that

1761
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 17: Joe's kind of allowed us to take over, you know,

1762
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 17: has allowed me to be free and not worry about

1763
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 17: so much where the ball's going. You know, there's been

1764
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 17: a game where I didn't have to do much, you know,

1765
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 17: Week two, just handed off and let James James go,

1766
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 17: and you know, that's just kind of what I'm I'm

1767
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 17: just just trying to do what I'm being asked to do,

1768
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 17: and that's again, take care of the football and score points.

1769
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: All right.

1770
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 2: So that's Josh Allen addressing the media there, and we

1771
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: were just talking about that how being able to just

1772
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 2: throw to the open man has been very freeing for

1773
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: him within the scope of the passing game. He does

1774
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: not feel ever now, probably for the past year plus,

1775
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: that he has to force the ball to anybody.

1776
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: He simply has.

1777
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,440
Speaker 2: To deliver it to whomever is open, and it's worked

1778
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: ridiculously well for this offense.

1779
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too. I think that's a sign towards

1780
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: he finally realizes that's the best way to win it.

1781
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: It's not him like pulling it down and taking off

1782
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: and running or doing something out of the ordinary. Just

1783
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 1: play within the scope of the play. Take what's there,

1784
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: and you're going to stay on the football field. You're

1785
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: going to make first downs, and you're going to end

1786
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: up in points one way or the other. And just

1787
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: keep doing that throughout the game, and you know you're

1788
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: gonna love the result. They're they're gonna score thirty points

1789
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: on a bad day where they've got three couple of

1790
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: three and outs. Yeah, you know, they're scoring thirty points.

1791
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: So he's right, And I think that's a that's a lesson.

1792
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of quarterbacks would love to be

1793
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: able to learn and utilize. I don't think every team

1794
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: can do that. They just because they don't have the

1795
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: offensive line, they don't have the weapons around and certainly

1796
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback.

1797
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: And it also makes the offense more unpredictable because they're

1798
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: not going to just one guy all the time. That's

1799
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: it for us today. Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas on

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01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: with us tomorrow.

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01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: We'll see it what