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Speaker 4: All right, welcome into another edition of the Patriots Training

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Speaker 4: Camp Cast. I might do so, joined by Evan Lazar

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Speaker 4: and Paul Perillo. And we just got off the field,

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Speaker 4: guys from another padded practice, our second one in a row,

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Speaker 4: a little bit longer session. It felt kind of to me, Paul,

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Speaker 4: like we're really just trying to hit that those dog

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Speaker 4: days this summer. Get the reps in Drake Mate took

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Speaker 4: a lot of reps today and again it felt like

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Speaker 4: an okay day for the offense. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: understated it to overstate it, but okay, they're showing some progress.

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Speaker 3: I mean even I would say, but yeah, I do

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Speaker 3: think there's some progress being made. You're seeing I think

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Speaker 3: with the pads on the past, protection has been a

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Speaker 3: little bit better, and that's to be expected. You should

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Speaker 3: be able to block a little bit better when you're

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Speaker 3: actually allowed dare I say to block, and I think

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Speaker 3: it has been and I think there were some signs

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Speaker 3: of production at you know, at times. Did a little

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Speaker 3: red zone work today? Mike, You're right, there was, you know,

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Speaker 3: sort of longer periods. I thought of eleven on eleven

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Speaker 3: and there was one point where Drake May doubled up,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought they got some good work here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Everyone talked about Drake May a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: down day yesterday. Would you see from him today?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I thought he got the ball out a little bit

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Speaker 1: faster today than what we saw yesterday. But in general

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about this on Unfiltered. Also, it

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Speaker 1: just feels like processing wise, he's maybe still a beat behind.

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Speaker 1: And when you watch a quarterback like Jacob Brissett who's

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Speaker 1: not only been in the league for a while but

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Speaker 1: also played in this offense before in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: you do start to see the difference a little bit

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Speaker 1: of not necessarily the talent or the physical tools, but

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Speaker 1: just when it's run on time and it's run on rhythm,

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Speaker 1: what it looks like with Jacob Brissett versus what it

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Speaker 1: looks like with a guy like Drake May who's still

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Speaker 1: trying to learn the system. So to me, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the things and we could probably dissect a million

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Speaker 1: things that that Drake May could or couldn't do better.

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Speaker 1: But to me, right now, the number one thing is

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Speaker 1: to get him mentally processing the game a little bit

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Speaker 1: faster and seeing things a little bit quicker, and then

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Speaker 1: you'll start to won't see all those camp reports of

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Speaker 1: well Drake May was, you know, five for eleven or

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Speaker 1: three for eleven today and eleven on elevens if he

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Speaker 1: starts to be a little bit more on time.

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Speaker 4: Now, Paul, there's another quarterback too, Joe Milton. I thought

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Speaker 4: he was okay today.

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Speaker 3: I mean I thought he was really good today.

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Speaker 4: He's getting some reps. What did you see?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he took you know, Zapi took some

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Speaker 3: and then it was later in Milton. I thought he'd

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Speaker 3: nice slant to Juju Smith Schuster for a touchdown. There

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Speaker 3: was some enthusiasm. I mean, he's one of those guys that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's got kind of the infectious enthusiasm. I'm not telling

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Speaker 3: pretty well today, but I thought he was dealing.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I'd say about Milton he was in

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Speaker 1: college for six years and he's three twenty four years old,

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Speaker 1: And even with him to Drake, you can sort of

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Speaker 1: And even the ball tends to come out a little

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so a little bit of housekeeping stuff. Guys, we had,

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Speaker 4: We were hopeful that Godshaw is going to get done,

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Speaker 4: Just not a great twenty four hours for the team,

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Speaker 4: especially on the defensive side of the ball, with how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Judon thing I think sort of

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Speaker 3: the public was just sort of openly saying I'm not

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Speaker 3: about it? And then I thought he kind of backed

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Speaker 3: tried to back drive Mayo into a corner. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's a coincidence that we didn't see him today.

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Speaker 3: I would just add also, David Andrews didn't practice for

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Speaker 3: the second straight day, which put Nick Leverett at center.

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Speaker 3: So that's unfortunate because that offensive line had started to

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Speaker 3: develop a little cohesion with the same tackles with Chukes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with the Judon thing. To me, we've

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Speaker 1: of you know, just to make it about football for

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Speaker 1: a second, the lack of juice that they have a

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Speaker 1: little bit right now in the pass rush without Judah

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Speaker 1: and Christian Barmore out there is a teeny bit concerning

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Speaker 1: I don't want to like be alarmist about it, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I charted the one on ones between the

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Speaker 1: straight wins for the offensive line. And this is an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that all offseason we've been telling you guys

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Speaker 1: isn't very good on paper, and you know some people

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Speaker 1: Jennings a quality wise, Keon White are having a tough

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're covering the big pieces here. We talked

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Speaker 4: about Drake May, We talked about the quarterback, Jacoby Brissett,

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Speaker 4: We talked about the offensive line, some of the concerns

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Speaker 4: on defense. The other big thing for this team of

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Speaker 4: the receivers. And it's just a big group and we've

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Speaker 4: kind of been talking about how there's been such rotation.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just everybody's kind of playing with everybody. Some days,

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Speaker 4: some guys are making plays other days or not. I

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Speaker 4: just want to ask both of you guys, like, who's

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Speaker 4: in terms of tight ends, wide receivers. Just one guy

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Speaker 4: as pads have come on And Paul, you can say

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Speaker 4: nobody if he.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know why I think that it's I'm going

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Speaker 3: to say the opposite of nobody. I'm gonna say different days,

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Speaker 3: I've seen different guys like I thought on Monday, Taekwon

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Speaker 3: Thorton kind of stood out to me. I think earlier

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Speaker 3: when there was no pads on, Rager was making some plays.

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Speaker 3: I think the two rookies have had days where they've

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Speaker 3: I thought that Polk was a little bit better today

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Speaker 3: I've seen him in other days. So I wouldn't say nobody.

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Speaker 3: I would say nobody consistently every day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair way to put it. I feel

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same things. I think we're in

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Speaker 1: lockstep on the receivers. The one guy I would just

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Speaker 1: kind of highlight, though, I am excited about Javon Baker

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Speaker 1: and the type of athlete that he is. It might

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Speaker 1: not be consistent yet day in and day out and

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Speaker 1: rep in and rep out, and that's sort of how

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Speaker 1: I thought he would be in his NFL career, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking at some of the comps, like, you know, one

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Speaker 1: to be UCF guys, Gabe Davis, who like will have

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Speaker 1: It feels like, and I kind of feel the same

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Speaker 1: times you notice him that he moves a little bit differently,

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Speaker 1: and Pop Douglas moves differently too, but he's smaller, you know,

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Speaker 1: Javon Baker moves differently at six one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: he's got some explosiveness and that that's a good quality

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Speaker 1: to have. So I'm excited about him, you know, not

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Speaker 1: trying to get too ahead of ourselves, but having those

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Speaker 1: they have, is not necessarily things that we've seen out

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Speaker 1: of rookie receivers in a Patriots training camp right away,

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Speaker 1: certainly not with Nikhil Harry as we were all here

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Speaker 1: for that, and then even with Taekwon it was like

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Speaker 1: kind of like a play here, a play there, whereas

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Speaker 1: those two guys feel like they're involved and they're getting

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Speaker 1: targeted every single day.

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Speaker 3: And I will say today was the first time we

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Speaker 3: saw Douglas in a competitive rep. He did some seven

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Speaker 3: on seven's, caught a pass in natural so he wore

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Speaker 3: a red non contact jersey today. Obviously getting closer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's another one that she just jumps off the field.

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Speaker 4: He's got some quickness and certainly it's the skill that

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Speaker 4: the Patriots offense needs. But the team will be off

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday. We're through six practices here. We think we

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Speaker 4: got seven left with a joint practice, so we're about

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Speaker 4: at the halfway point Wednesday off day, and then we're

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Speaker 4: anticipating three more action pack practices, probably a couple with

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