1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With text? 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Stole from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: in Welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poette 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: and I am an editor here at how stuff works 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: dot Com. Sitting across from me, as usual is senior 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: writer Jonathan Strickland. It's a hundred six miles to Chicago. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: of cigarettes. It's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it. Hey, guys, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk today about something that we received tons 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: and tons of requests for. Um. We received requests for 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: this through email, through Twitter, through Facebook, through singing telegram. UM, 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: there was I think someone hired a plane to write 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: this across the sky above the house stuff works dot 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: com headquarters. But here's here's just a quick list of 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: some of the people who wrote in to ask us 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: about our topic today. They include Daniel, Jack, Jaden, Josh John, Miguel, Trey, 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Mark Nicholas, and Tom. That's just a selection. And we're 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: going to talk today about jail breaking. Yes, And I 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: don't believe that any of the people that you've listed. Uh, 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: we're actually writing us from jail, so we must not 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: be talking about prison cell know what we are talking 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: about specifically. Really, jailbreaking can can be a fairly general term, 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: but it tends to focus more often than not on 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Apple products, and jailbreaking is all about how uh people 26 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: who buy Apple products. You know, Apple has a very 27 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: specific way that they like to to design their products. 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: They want to design very beautiful, useful, uh, user friendly 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: products that quote unquote just work well. In order to 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: do that, they have to have control. Yeah, Apples kind 31 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: of big on the control thing. Yes, not necessarily what 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: you say and do under normal operation, but really the 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: they want control of the experience for you, which is 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: why if you want to buy something for your iPhone, 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: iPod or i've had, uh, you should be buying it 36 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: through the iTunes store according to Apple, because that means 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: that they have had someone look at it and say, yes, 38 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: it works as advertised, and we approve of this. Here 39 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: it goes, and they put it in the store. Theoretically, 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: it also helps them keep out things like malware, right 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: it would it would prevent them if they have verified 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: that it is not dangerous for you. To run that 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: on your eye device. Um, you know they should be 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: able to you should be able to buy something from 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the the app store and go, I know that this 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: is safe and not going to cause any harm or 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: make a brick out of my iPhone, right, So it's 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: all about that's their argument. Yeah, exactly, that's one of 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: their arguments. But that's a big one, that's the main 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: one they use. Yeah, So if we're going to make 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: a comparison, let's say that you go to a an 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: electronics store, specific kind of electronic store, so you know, 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: we'll just call it OWLS Electronics, and you go to 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: OWLS Electronics and you buy a stereo. IL cut you 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: a deal, by the way, and you take that stereo home, 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: and then you want to play music on it, and 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: then you discover that Owl's the stereos from Owls Electronics 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: will only play music that was purchased from OWLS Electronics. 59 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: That's why I'll cut you such a deal. So you 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: can't go buy music anywhere else. You have to go 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: back to OLS Electronics if you want to be able 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: to play it on your stereo. And not all the 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: artists are are are carried by OWLS Electronics. So there's 64 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: some music you're just not going to get to listen to, 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: no matter what. Same sort of thing here, except instead 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: of music, we're talking about apps, applications. Little well, minish 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: your applications if you prefer. But these are the various 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: games and and uh and and apps that you can 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: run on iPhones certain well iPod touches in the iPad uh. Now, normally, 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: if you just go to an Apple store and you 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: buy one of these products you taken home, the only 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: apps that you have at your disposal will be the 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: ones that are carried in the iTunes store. You can't 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: go and find them anywhere else. Right, as long as 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: you don't jail break your device, you are limited to 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: what is in the app store. Now, there are plenty 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: of apps in the app store. Here's another one of 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Apple's arguments. So whyever would you want to go outside 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the app store? Well, part of it is that control 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: system we were talking about. Apple has a very um 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to say if it's strict, because it's so 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: it's not understood very well. Apple's policies about what can 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: and cannot go into the App Store seem to at 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: least be somewhat veiled in secrecy. You'll see some apps 85 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: getting an approval and go into the app store and 86 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: everything seems to be fine, and another app that, as 87 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: far as you can tell, meets the same criteria as 88 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: the first one will get denied. And sometimes app is 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: forthcoming about why a particular app did or did not 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: make it into the store, and sometimes they're not. So 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: that's this can be a very frustrating experience. And if 92 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: you're the type of user who does not want to 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: have which apps you can and can't use dictated to 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: you by the manufacturer, you may be tempted to find 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: a way to get around that. And that's what jailbreaking is. 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we've that was a roundabout way to get 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: to it, but jailbreaking is essentially hacking your device so 98 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: that you can put whatever apps it is capable of 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: running on there without it being dictated to you by Apple. Yes, 100 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: and um, it's a very very low level system hack, 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: so I mean it's not you're you're not messing with 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: the very top layer of software. You're getting into the 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: system software to do this, which means it could be dangerous. Yeah, 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: there's actually, uh, here are the arguments that Apple puts 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: forth as to why you should not jail break your phone. 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: Argument number one that you pointed out that the app 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: store already has thousands of apps in it which have 108 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: passed presumably have passed Apple quality control, so they are 109 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: going to do what they're supposed to do and they're 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: safe to use, so you don't have to worry about 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: it screwing up your phone. That's argument number one is safety. 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: Argument number two is uh not you know that the 113 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the experience is going to It's not none of the 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: apps that you're going to get in the Apple Store 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: going to affect the other apps you have. Whereas if 116 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: you jail break your phone so that it does stuff 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: that it's capable of doing but was not meant to do, um, 118 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: one app could screw up another app so that you 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: end up with essentially a broken device. That's that's where 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: you're getting towards the bricked version. UH. Argument number three 121 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: it violates warranty. Yes, so if you were to try 122 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and circumnavigate this whole UH system that Apples put in 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: place that restricts you to the apps in the iTunes store, 124 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: you violated your warranty. And if something goes Apple is 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: not obligated to help you. So, uh, that's another issue 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: that's putting the fear into the user. And the fourth 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: one I think I'm on number four now is that 128 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: until recently, Apple also said that it was a copyright violation, 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: which no longer necessarily no no longer applies in the 130 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: United States. In the United States, that's not the issue anymore. 131 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: But it used to be that Apple would say that 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: if you were to jail break your phone so that 133 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: you could access unauthorized apps, you were violating copyright. And 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: we currently specifically the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, yes, d 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: m c A. But section twelve oh one A one, 136 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: Title seventeen of the United States Code on Copyright now says, 137 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and this this is a direct quote, persons making noninfringing 138 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: uses of the following six classes of works will not 139 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: be subject to the prohibition against circumventing access controls until 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the conclusion of the next rulemaking. And then it lists 141 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the six different classes. The second class is computer programs 142 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute software applications where 143 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability 144 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: of such applications. When they have been lawfully obtained with 145 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: computer programs on the telephone handset, which is a long 146 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: way of saying, if you if you create a software 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: program that allows you to break this this restriction on 148 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: a handset device, that's okay. It is not violating copyright. 149 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: There is a word in there that I would like 150 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: to point out, what's that lawful? Yeah, that gets tricky, 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, And it's essentially what this does is help 152 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: take some of the teeth out of what Apple tells you, 153 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: and that Apple's saying, hey, this violates copyright. Therefore it's 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: against the law. Therefore you are breaking the law if 155 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: you jail break your phone. This makes it a little 156 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: muddier where it's it's like, well, now it doesn't sound 157 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: like it's legal. Now Apple can still create a a 158 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: user agreement that states that you do not jail break 159 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: your phone, and if you violate that, then Apple can 160 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: still deny you your your support, you know, and still 161 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: said that it violates warranty. It's not like it's a 162 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: get out of jail free card for jail breaking. It's 163 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: just that you're not going to get prosecuted in a 164 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: in a in a legal system for creating distributing a 165 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: jail breaking program. Well, there's another aspect to that as well. 166 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: What's that? Um? From what I understand, if you jailbreak 167 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: your eye thing that it will used eye device earlier. UM. 168 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: If you if you do decide to jail break your 169 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: your device, UM, it could allow you to pirate applications. Um. 170 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Because see what's going on when you buy something from 171 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the app store is uh, there is an embedded layer 172 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: of rights metadata involved with that that says that you 173 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: own the license to run this on your I device. 174 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, once you have removed, once you 175 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: have jailbroken that and you have freed it from Apple's control, 176 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: then you can install stuff from other people's that other 177 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: people have bought on there as well. So one of 178 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the things that I have seen in doing research for 179 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: this podcast and comments on on blog posts and articles is, 180 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, from developers who are you know, the upside 181 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: being hey, you've got a lot more freedom now, the 182 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: downside being, hey, don't copy our apps by them. You know. 183 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the thing is so you jail 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: breaking is not a a It frees you to use 185 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever you want to on your device, but it doesn't 186 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: give you a right to go around and pirate apps. Right, 187 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you can't go you can't just go and steal stuff 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: that's that's legitimately for sale. Um. What you can do 189 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: is you can go to various directories that have apps 190 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: that were never included in the in the store to 191 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: begin with, and access those and in some cases you 192 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: may be purchasing them. In some cases it may be 193 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: a free download, kind of like it is in the 194 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: iTunes store. It's just it's just that in this this case, 195 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: these are applications that, for one reason or another were 196 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: never approved or perhaps were never even submitted for approval. 197 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: It's some some developers, you know, may not want to 198 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: go through the uh the process, the approval process. And uh, 199 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: you know you've got to remember also that the customers 200 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: who have iPhones that you know they've just put through 201 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: the jailbreaking process, that's a small number compared to the 202 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: overall number of of iPhone, iPod and iPad users. UM. So, 203 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not like if you are a 204 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: developer and you decide to create an application and you're 205 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: going to offer it up for people who have uh 206 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: use jail break to free up their phones. Uh, you 207 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: do that knowing that you're hitting a smaller audience than 208 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you would if you went through the quote unquote legitimate process. Right. 209 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out that jail breaking is 210 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: not unlocking, and it's not the same thing as unlocking. Yeah, 211 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: Unlocking your phone means that you have you have enabled 212 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: it so that it will work on multiple carriers or 213 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: on a different carrier than the one that was associated 214 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: with your phone. So, United States, the iPhone is exclusive 215 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: to a T and T. Uh. If you were to 216 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: unlock your phone, you could theoretically have it run on 217 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: T Mobile because T Mobile uses the same general technology. 218 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Now granted it's same technology, but different frequencies. So some 219 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: of them are they don't they There's a couple of 220 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: them overlap. I think one or two of them overlap. 221 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: But at any rate, the you know, you couldn't have 222 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: it run on Verizon or Sprint just because you're talking 223 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: about two different cellular technology. Yeah, G S M versus 224 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: C d M A So uh, Yeah, unlocking is different 225 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: from jailbreaking. However, if you do want to unlock your phone, 226 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: you pretty much have to jail break it first. So 227 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: how do you jail break your phone? Well, it all 228 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: depends upon or or really your eye device to use 229 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: your phrase. It depends on which device you have, and 230 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: it depends on which version of the iOS you're running. 231 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Because here's here's how this works is that you have 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: hackers who examine the code that is in this operating 233 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: system and they see the way to to create shortcuts 234 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: and workarounds so that you can uh circumvent the whole 235 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: iTunes exclusivity part of owning these devices. Um. Once they 236 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: find a way of doing that, they create a program 237 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: that again kind of creates this shortcut for you, and then, uh, 238 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: what will happen is Apple will take a look at 239 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: and see that people have found workarounds, and then when 240 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: they start updating the OS, they will patch those holes, 241 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: which means that you start all over again. The hacker 242 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: has to find a new route to accomplish the same thing. 243 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: And you've got dozens of different people working on this 244 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: independently of each other. So there are many, many, many 245 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: versions of jailbreaking software out there, written by different people 246 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: for the various operating systems. And I'll by the way, 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: if you do jail break your phone, one of the downsides, um, 248 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: because we some of the stuff. Apple says, it's absolutely true, right, 249 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: like you could download an app that's harmful to your phone. Theoretically, yes, 250 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean there are two different viruses that have come 251 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: out for the that that we're designed for the iPhone, 252 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: but would only affect your phone if you had a 253 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: jailbroken iPhone, so you could get a virus. You could 254 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: break your phone, which is where it freezes and it 255 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: becomes unresponsive. I'll tell you a little bit about how 256 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: you can fix your phone, by the way, if it 257 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: is bricked. UM, it's pretty In most cases, it'll work 258 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: and it's pretty simple. It does mean that you'll lose 259 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: some data though, UM. But another downside is that when 260 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Apple updates its operating system, you're left out. If you've 261 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: decided to jail break your your device, be haus you can't. 262 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: If you update your your OS, it's going to UM, 263 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: it's going to remove the jailbreak feature on your phone, 264 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: or it's going to break it one of the two. Um. 265 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: But there's a good chance we'll do is they'll just 266 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: wipe all that off your device, so you'll lose all 267 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: the apps that you have and you won't be able 268 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: to download apps independent apps anymore. Until someone comes up 269 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: with a new way to jailbreak and again you have 270 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: to just start all over again from scratch. Yeah. That's 271 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: one of the sort of weird things about this is 272 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: once your phone or or pod or pad is unlocked, 273 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, jail broken. Um, you can unjail break it. Yeah. Um. Actually, 274 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and returning to the original thing, the thing is that 275 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: when when you when you do this, you're going to 276 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: lose your data. Yeah, so it's it's always a good 277 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: idea if you're gonna mess with this, to back up 278 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: your your data before you jail break it or unjail 279 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: break it if you need to, because say something goes 280 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: awry and it's just not your device is not working well, 281 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: but it's jailbroken. If you take it to Apple and 282 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: ask them for help, they will say no because they 283 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: will say that you violated or if they if they 284 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: don't know, what they'll do is they'll immediately reset your 285 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: phone to factory settings end up deleting all that stuff. Anyway. Um, 286 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I assume that it probably has still a lot to 287 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: do with the humor of the person who is talking 288 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah. Yeah, Some some people, like disgruntled Apple 289 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: employees might think it's funny. Uh. Still, if you're gonna 290 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: get your phone fixed, there's a good chance that you're 291 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: not gonna keep the jail breaking stuff. You'll have to 292 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: fix it or they will do it for you. Yeah. Yeah, 293 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: so you'll have to start over if you want to 294 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: go back that route. Um. So Yeah, if you don't 295 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: mind the fact that you're not going to get updates 296 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: from Apple on their OS, you can just keep your 297 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: device the way it is forever and you can go 298 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: and download whatever apps you want from whichever independent sources 299 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: there are, um and just not worry about it. But 300 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: most people, I think, when they find out there is 301 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: a slightly better version of whatever it is they have 302 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: and it's available to them, um, they jump on that. 303 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: So like when the new OS comes out and a 304 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: new feature is added, I think most owners want access 305 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: to that feature. So it becomes a battle of well, 306 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: do I resign myself to the fact that I'm going 307 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: to have to start the jailbreaking process all over again 308 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and I may have to wait for someone to find 309 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: those shortcuts for me um, Or do I go ahead 310 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and uh and and ignore the update and just keep 311 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: my jail broken phone and realize that I'm not going 312 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: to have some functionality that other people do. That's true. Well, 313 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: and in some cases Apple has actually followed a jail 314 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: break and app um basically the functionality provided by those 315 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: to the operating system itself. Um. An example of this, 316 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: I believe is theming where you can actually, you know, 317 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: put a different skin on it and you know, now 318 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: it's part of the OS, but before it wasn't and 319 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: if you wanted to do that, you needed to jail 320 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: break your your device. Yeah, things like um, you know, uh, 321 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: running multiple applications at the same time would be another 322 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: good example. Or tethering or cut and paste. These are 323 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: all things that the phone, the hardware was capable of doing. 324 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: But for one reason or another, and there are different 325 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: reasons depending upon which which feature you're talking about, Apple 326 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: did not implement them right away in the earliest models. 327 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: In many cases it was a battery issue. In some 328 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: cases it was a security issue. Yes, And I would 329 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: like to add that my use of tethering there was 330 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: not is still not approved by Apple, nor is it 331 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: approved by a T and T, So it is not 332 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: It is something that has been enabled by jailbreaking, but 333 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: is still not part of the true Apple Os right. 334 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: And in case you're you don't know what tethering is, 335 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: that's when you are using your your device as essentially 336 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: a WiFi like a moodem. You're using it like a mootem. So, um, 337 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: you might have your laptop and you're not at a 338 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: WiFi hot hotspot, so you use your iPhone to get 339 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: data over the three G network and transfer you act 340 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: as a modem to your computer. That's what tethering is. 341 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: And you can do that either by you know, some 342 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: will do it through a Bluetooth connection or a WiFi 343 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: connection or even a physical connection like a USB cable. Um, 344 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: So tethering doesn't have to require a physical tether. Just 345 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: so you know. The two ways that you generally jail 346 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: break your phone, because we've talked a lot about what 347 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: it is, but not about how you do it. Um. 348 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: And now, assuming you're not a programmer, so assuming you're 349 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: not someone who's doing this him or herself like going 350 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: in and physically looking at code and creating hacks to 351 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: get around it. You just want to quicken and easy 352 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: solution to jail break your device right there. They're generally 353 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: two different methods depending upon uh where you're getting your 354 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: your jail break software from UM, and there are tons. 355 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's dozens and dozens of hackers who 356 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: are working on this, so there are lots of different variations. 357 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: One of those would involve going to a website on 358 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: your computer and finding the jail break software, running it 359 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: on your computer, and then hooking up your phone and 360 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: UM and putting it into recovery mode. And instead of 361 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: recovering the normal OS the way it would in UH 362 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: if it were just a regular recovery UM, it's going 363 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: to pull the jailbreaking software onto the phone and allow 364 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: you to access uh those those apps. So that's that's 365 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: one way of doing it. And the way you put 366 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: your device and recovery mode is generally you hold the 367 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: home button down and then you dock it with your 368 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: computer as while you're holding down the home button. In 369 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: some cases you may have to hold down a power 370 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: button too, but that's what allows it to load that information. 371 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: It's almost like you know, you're you're booting it directly 372 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: from the the application that's on your computer. Yeah, again, 373 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: back it up before you do this, right. Yeah, you 374 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: can use iTunes to back up your iPhone for example, 375 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: But the other way you can do this, which is 376 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: actually even easier because I mean that's not hard really. 377 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: You go, you find the right website. You've pretty much automated. Yeah, 378 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: you find the right website, you find the right application, 379 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you download it to your computer, and you run it 380 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: while your phones and recovery your set. But there's one 381 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: that's even easier than that, which is, um, this is 382 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: what jail break me uses. Uh. You can you can 383 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: use Safari on the device to navigate to a website that, 384 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: like jail break me, that has the jail breaking uh 385 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: software designed as a an app that can run on 386 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: your device through the web. Before you pause the podcast 387 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: and do that, listen to the rest of what we're 388 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: going to say at any rate, So you can go 389 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: directly to this website and uh and run the thing 390 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: and it'll it'll install the jail breaking software on your 391 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: phone directly. You don't have to hook it up to 392 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: your computer first. UM. Yeah, okay. So one of the 393 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: things you need to know before you do this is 394 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: buy or be ware, UH you never you need to 395 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: make sure if you are going to jail break your phone, 396 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: do some research on the various uh, the various options 397 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: you have out there UM try and find some message 398 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: boards find out whether or not this is a reliable 399 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: way if people have experienced problems UM if UM. You know, 400 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: it may be that in some cases that the hack 401 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: code it just isn't up to snuff, because not everyone's 402 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: a great hacker, you know, the people who design these 403 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: things have varying levels of skill. And in some cases 404 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: it's an elegant solution that works very well, and your 405 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: phone is not gonna behave oddly and everything should still 406 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: work properly, and you'll still even be able to get 407 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: apps from iTunes. You know, you'd be able to purchase 408 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: them through their ideally without any issues. But that's not 409 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: necessarily the case with all of them, so a little 410 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: research goes a long way. Yes, and UM I should 411 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: point out that what's going on with jailbreak me is 412 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: is not and and this is not to implicate them 413 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: in doing anything uh dirty other than you know, jail breaking, 414 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: but they are the The developer who created jailbreak me 415 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: found a security flaw and the Safari browser, which is 416 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: how he's able to do this. As it turns out, 417 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: it's it's the way that UM the iOS handles UM 418 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: pdf files and UM. This is the thing. As it 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: turns out, you need to be aware if you are 420 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: using um iOS three or four. UM. You know, they're 421 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: they're basically two different vulnerabilities. One of them is the 422 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: way that the Safari browser UM runs pds when it 423 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: runs across it, So be careful when you download PDFs 424 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: with uh uh with Safari as actually anything that comes 425 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: from a site that you're not familiar with UM and uh, 426 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: you know that's just apparently that that has to do 427 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: with what's going on. But he's fooling the computer into 428 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: doing or i should say, the device into doing something 429 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: that it normally wouldn't do through a security vulnerability. And 430 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: that's why you're you're able to do it, and you 431 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: can do it right now at least as of the 432 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: recording of this podcast. But I'm sure it won't be 433 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: long before apples fixed. Well, I mean, it's a security flaw. 434 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: It should be patched regardless, but but yeah, it's it's 435 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: it's probably once they patch that up, they'll have to 436 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: find a different way to do it. Yeah. Yeah, and 437 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: that case they're aware. In that case, it may go 438 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: back to the point where the only real way to 439 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: do it is to to download the application to a 440 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: computer first. Um, and that and that like again, like again, 441 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: I say, uh, um, jailbreak me is not not up 442 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: to anything no good, So don't don't worry about them. 443 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: Other people, however, could be could be yeah, so and 444 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: and just for you to get an idea of what 445 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: kind of stuff could be no good. Uh, it's not 446 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: just that they could maybe screw up your phone. It's 447 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: that they could perhaps mine data from you over your phone. 448 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: So not just your information, but any information that might 449 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: be transferred over that device through various means, be at email, 450 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: instant messenger, web browsing. Uh. You know, just think about that. 451 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, think about anything that would that you would 452 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: transfer over your phone could theoretically be intercepted with the 453 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: proper uh malware app out there. Um So, once you, 454 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: once you have jail broken your phone, you're gonna need 455 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: a directory for those apps that we've been talking about, 456 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: these these independent apps. UM. I think one of the 457 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: most popular ones is Sidia. Just see why d I ah, 458 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: it seems to be the one that I think most 459 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: people prefer. Now. I don't own an iPhone, so I 460 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: have no need for this jail breaking business. Um So 461 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I can't tell you about Sidia from a personal standpoint, 462 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: but that does seem to be the one that I 463 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: think is favored by most of the writers I read 464 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: from what I from what I've seen there, it's probably 465 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: the most popular. And again it doesn't it's sort of 466 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: like an alternative app store, but it doesn't prevent you 467 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: from using the actual Apple App Store. Right. So I 468 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: did mention the possibility of breaking, and that it's not 469 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: that hard to fix most of the time. Here's so 470 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: let's say your let's say you've jail broken your phone 471 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: and it's frozen, it's become unresponsive. You don't want to 472 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: take it into the Apple Store because you've already violated 473 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: your warranty. Yeah, one thing that you might try, and 474 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: this will work in most cases, is again hold down 475 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: that home button. And then once you've held it down 476 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: and it's uh, you know, the little screen comes up. 477 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: You you connected to the dock, connected to your computer, 478 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: and what will have is iTunes will see the phone 479 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: and they'll see it'll see it that it's in recovery mode, 480 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: and it will then load the latest version of whatever 481 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: the firmware is for that phone or other device, iPad 482 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: or iPod and then that will reset it. You'll you'll 483 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: lose some data, it won't be jailbroken anymore. Um, but 484 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: it will work, which is probably more important anything else. 485 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I got that, by the way, from Digital Trends. I 486 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: should say Digital Trends had that specific fix listed. And 487 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: uh so if you have experienced that problem, that is 488 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: one potential solution. And the other nice thing about that 489 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: is that unless um, unless the Apple workers are particularly vigilant, uh, 490 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: if you have cleared that, if you've got into recovery 491 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: mode that way and reset the firmware, uh, there's a 492 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: good chance they won't know that you've violated your warranty. 493 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Not that I writ not that I'm condoning that, but 494 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: that there's a there's a pretty good chance no one 495 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: would ever know that you had jail broken your phone 496 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: in the first place. So if if you have come 497 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: to the conclusion after that rains that maybe it wasn't 498 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: worth it, Like maybe the apps you saw weren't really 499 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: your thing in the first place. Um. You know, most 500 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: users I think would be satisfied with what's in the 501 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: iTunes store. It's really kind of power users and hackers, 502 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: those type of people who really want to have more 503 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: freedom with their devices, who are more interested in h 504 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: in jailbreaking. Um, So if you do decide that's not 505 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: worth it, you can recover your phone and there's there's 506 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: a good chance that it's going to be safe enough 507 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: so that you know, nobody's the wiser. Um. Not guaranteed though, 508 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: So don't don't be standing at the Genius bar yelling. 509 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: But Jonathan Strickland said that you wouldn't even notice because 510 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: you're stupid, because, uh, that's not cool, dude. Don't bring 511 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: me into it, man, don't I don't even own an iPhone, 512 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know. I have Android, which has a totally different 513 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: set of problems but doesn't need to be jailbroken. Now, 514 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be jail broke in, but it 515 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: has its own issues. Uh. No, no system out there 516 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: is perfectly. You just have to decide which one is 517 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: best for you exactly. Uh So, anyway, that's our jailbreaking podcast. 518 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you are out there kind of 519 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: wondering why we didn't talk specifically about the steps you 520 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: need to take to jail break your phone. And that's 521 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: again because each one is different, and in most cases 522 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: there's someone out there who has done all the work 523 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: for you. You just have to find the right the 524 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: right solution for the particular OS you are running. Um 525 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: and most of you are probably running the latest O 526 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: S anyway, so that's not that hard unless you're running 527 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: an old device that can't run the latest OS. Case 528 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: you're probably running the latest one that is possible on 529 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: that device. Yeah what what I put touch? Do you have? 530 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: That would be the first generation? Yeah? Okay, so there's 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: no I OS four? Does that? Things? Playing music? 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