WEBVTT - Reflections 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.680 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA EPI Daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.720 me your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording live from the Brooklyn Silarium. Folks, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.400 I'm very excited to bring back to you an episode 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.240 of Planets Fuck, Make It Woke. It is our crossover 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.440 episode with our friend and colleague, the Reverend Mark Thompson 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.879 of Make It Plain in this conversation that we have, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.320 and it is a supersized episode that we put together 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.040 for all of you. Is you know, because we decided 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:48.080 to do this show as a monthly heading up to 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.599 the mid term elections. We decided that this episode we 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.600 would give a reflection on where things are, where things 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.800 stand in our body politic right now, and what our 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.319 thoughts are for when the calendar year changes and we 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.560 rev up into the mid term. So I hope you 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:11.080 will enjoy this new episode of Make It Woke, Plane 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:16.959 as Fuck. You tell me, folks, I am so excited 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:24.880 to welcome back everyone to our monthly crossover with our friend, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.920 the Reverend Mark Thompson of Make It Plane joining Woke 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.919 a f so that we can make shit plane as fuck. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:40.560 So on this episode, you know we're going to provide 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.720 a I guess what is it? Mark a reflection or 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.520 wrap up a Hail Mary to the past year, looking 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.400 ahead to what we expect is going to be happening 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.000 in January. But you know, before we even jump into 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.960 the specifics, I cannot believe that this is the end 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.840 of twenty twenty one. Like I, my mind is still 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.400 blown that we are about to be two years inside 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.800 of a pandemic that you know, even though Donald Trump 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.280 is gone, Trumps M is winning and raging strong. How 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.080 are you feeling as we're coming to the end of 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.840 this year? The year has and first of all, always 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.680 great to collaborate with you, Danielle. The year has flown by, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.360 and it's odd because we're still I guess coming out 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.680 of or still in. I don't know if we're fully 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.200 out of it yet. This pandemic culture and environment where 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:42.400 it's it's very strange. And I think too looking at 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.919 the days and weeks to come. You know, the news 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:49.400 cycle is getting shorter and shorter, so we got a 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:54.400 whole another month of stuff that could happen before we 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.959 get to January. So I'm I'm just trying to get 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.000 to Christmas, which I'm not ready for yet. Uh not 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.440 to mention it getting ready for January. I mean we 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.880 even have if you I mean we just you know, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.119 we just had another another shooting. You know, I want 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:16.720 to talk about that, um coming on the heels of 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.880 ritten house. You know, there's still this gun violence. But 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:30.160 nobody says right on wait violence you know we it's us. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.679 It's just we have when y'all going to address you 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:39.040 all's problem with violence. And so there's that. UM. You 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.240 and I talked the last time we together about the 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.440 party which many of us support but doesn't seem to 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.760 love us back. And it's gonna language. So this, this 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:53.640 is it. This month is do or die for the 0:03:53.720 --> 0:04:00.440 Democratic Party in the sense that if these pieces of legislation, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.400 and there's a myriad of them from voting rights and 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.400 then go to suppression all of that, even reparations, which 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.360 I was on a meeting for today, if we have 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.840 to this is breaking news. I have not even announced 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.680 this on my show yet. I'll make a plan at 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:24.039 this moment between with the total of co sponsors for 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.440 HR forty, the reparations built, and the total of committed 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:32.440 yes votes is two hundred fourteen, which means we are 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:37.559 eight votes from passage. Of HR forty. Now, what usually 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.760 happens in that situation is when it's that close, it's 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.599 like it wasn't Build Back Better. They didn't have all 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.600 the votes to build Back Better in the House. So 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.880 what the leadership then does is they go and they whip, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.040 they get the last few they need, and they do 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.719 whatever they need to do. Twist time, say hey, come 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:56.320 with the caucus. Some Democrats are afraid. It is the irony. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.360 You got two hundred and fourteen people on the bill, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.360 but yet there's a small number who are afraid, Well, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.240 if you do this, we pass reparations that's going to 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:10.200 hurt us in in vulnerable and competitive districts. But two 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.760 hundred fourteen year all on the build and the two 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.360 hundred fourteen members of the Congressional Black Caucus. This is 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:22.039 a majority of white members of Congress that support HR forty. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.440 So what's what's the big deal? So we got to 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.880 deal with that, and then really the whole jig is up. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.039 We hope that happens back the end of the month. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.360 But just like build back Better, build back Better has 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.960 to happen bay the end of the month. And also 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.000 either John Lewis for the people of freedom to vote, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.480 which was the Mansion compromise. All of those would address 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:51.320 the jerrymandering and rot to suppression. I mean, you know, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:58.840 you got states like Ohio jerrymandering eighty percent, for Trump's 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.440 North Carolina jereymandering seventy eight percent. I don't mean I 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:07.479 for Trump for Republican House seats, Texas sixty five percent 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.600 for Republican House seats. All of these states Ohio, North Carolina, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:17.680 and Texas Trump barely won, barely states that Biden one 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:25.160 Georgia jeremandering sixty four Republican House seats. One Wisconsin jeremandering 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.360 seventy five percent Republican House seats. So this is this 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.839 is existential. They can they have the ability to jerrymander 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:40.920 themselves a House majority without people voting them out. And 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.640 I hope I made that clear. They create more Republican 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.360 districts that we definitely can win in and then they 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.800 get a House majority. Mansion is doing that, and how 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.960 one person still how the White House and no one 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.520 else has figured out how to prevent one person from 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.680 having that power, And it's got to happen this month. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.560 So December is do a dad for the Democrats. You know. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.159 It's so I don't think you know, you use the 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.320 word existential, and that is absolutely the right word to use. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.440 And the fact is is that I don't believe that 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:22.040 people across the country, regular Americans, understand exactly what an 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.960 existential threat this is. I think that right now, even 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.800 with what the Supreme Court is doing with the gutting, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.760 completely dismantling of Roev Wade, I put up a map 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:40.160 the other day on you on Instagram that shows exactly 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.080 what the country will look like in a post Rob 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:49.400 Wade world, and it is like about ten states that 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.160 women are going to be able to get an abortion 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.960 in and it is going to be outlawed because what 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.400 people don't know is that they have trigger laws that 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:03.920 are in place that if you move viability right of 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.800 a collection of sales, if you move viability from twenty 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:13.480 four weeks right to fifteen, then there's no reason why 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.040 it won't be ten, it won't be nine, it won't 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.840 be a week, right. And so these trigger laws that 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.920 folks in the South and across the Midwest have are 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.640 just itching and waiting. And the thing that I have 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.880 put up and said is that if you think this 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.320 stops at Roe v. Wade, You are out of your mind. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.160 This just this Robert's Court is the reason why we 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.880 have over four hundred bills right now right across the 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.360 country that are about jerrymandering and voter suppression. It's because 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.240 of the decision that was made right to end preclearance 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:58.679 for historically racist states in this country. Roberts wanted us 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:03.320 to believe. At what Rachel Madao how said on the 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.760 election out of Obama, Oh, we're post racial, so we 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:12.120 don't need to have the same preclearance when these historically 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:18.439 racist states that have been ground zero for domestic terrorism 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.800 in this country. Oh, they don't need anymore oversight when 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.560 they decide to change your voter suppression laws. As soon 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.000 as that became the new law of the land, as 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.920 soon as we hollowed out this nineteen forty nineteen sixty 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:40.439 four Act, Republicans the salivating that we have seen right 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.640 the chomping at the bit to undermine our democracy and 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:50.360 to literally silence the voices of the majority of this country. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.480 You see, because when when we all got the alert 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.360 that twenty thirty, twenty fifty it was going to be 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:03.120 majority minority, right, majority bipop people in this country, right, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:08.000 we're all sitting around applauding and getting excited. They got actionable, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.320 the white supremacy got actionable. And so if this is 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.360 what it looks like when we have the House, the Senate, 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.240 and the White House, what do we think it's gonna 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.400 look like when they take back the House and the 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.440 Senate in twenty twenty two. And they're not even doing 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.560 it on any policy. They're just doing it on saying 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:34.160 we're about white supremacy. We're about no mandates whatsoever unless 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.000 we are mandating what a woman can and cannot do 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.079 with her reproductive health. You know, you're right. That Row 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:52.360 piece was pretty a devastating display of just subjugation. And 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.760 then the Mississippi ag comparing Road to Plussy versus Ferguson. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:06.160 And I think that Justice Sotomayor probably gave one of 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.840 the the will go down in history as one of 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.160 the greatest quotes in the history of the Screen Court 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.440 when she said this looks too political? What will the 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.440 result of the stench be from making these types of decisions? 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.240 But let gonna tell you last night, I'm on Twitter. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.240 I started to call you, see if you got your 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.360 passport ready? I was like, let's go to Poland. Then 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.280 people in the streets. It looks like the million man 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:36.800 March and the march Women's March all together at the 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.560 same time in Poland right now for the same reason. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.200 Because they're trying to outlaw a bush. They are in 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.120 the streets. So now if we were to do that 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.120 in this country, if they really go back against Row 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.400 and see women, this is where y'all come in. Take 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.440 something right now, Women can change his whole thing. That's 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.560 the only saving grace. If they reverse Row Danielle and 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:06.480 then women respond on Moss at the polls and elsewhere, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.240 that might be the only thing that keeps them out 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.400 of the majority. To me, that's a big gamble for 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.280 them because I mean, do you want to awaken this 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.240 sleeping giant, And by sleeping, I mean women have yet 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.640 as an electorate. They did it in twenty twenty. That's 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.840 why Biden's a women decide, Okay, we finish the Trump. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.040 But then they decided to come back in Kentucky and 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.520 let us know, that's just we just want to get 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.560 rid of Trump, but we'll deal with moderately racist people. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.360 But women have got to decide as the majority of 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.760 people in this country the majority of electorate, are you 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.080 going to allow them to take away your reproductive rights? 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:47.360 It's tricky because for a segment of the white women's electorate, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:49.959 things go back to the way they were before Row. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.800 They can still get abortions because they can afford to 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.480 go somewhere and get them. So the question is will 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.840 they stand up for women who afford that writes privacy? 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.680 And and and just one more thing, it ain't just about 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.240 a bostion, y'all, As Danielle said, it's a slippery slope 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.680 to everything else. See see folks saw them take away 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.960 the chief extract the teeth from the Voting Rights Act, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.240 and nobody thought would they might do the same thing 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.400 the road or the same sex or the marriage equality. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.680 But that's what they do. They start in one place 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.040 and then they started coming for everything. If y'all think 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.600 that you don't think they can, they can reconsider and 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.160 see some people on the front line and order to 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.600 get that. They already bracing for them to come back 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.800 to marriage equality. Even so, so you know this is 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.840 this is that we cannot rest. This is the war 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.800 we're in and we people have got to stop being 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:47.679 radicalized by false issues like critical race theory. That's not 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:54.439 real right now. It's about critical voter suppression theory, critical 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.199 women's rights to their own body. That's the real stuff. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.959 But they want to distract you, oh Market Danielle trying 0:13:59.960 --> 0:14:01.360 to get a critical race theory in the school. No, no no, 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.920 we're not trying to get critic race theory ain't in 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:10.000 the schools. It never was. And if anything, the movement 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.480 that we had back in the nineties, late eighties and 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:18.320 nineties around changing curriculum, African center curriculum, multicultural curriculum, we 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.120 lost that battle. They beat us on that, and so 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:22.960 we would have been the ones to bringing that back up, 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.840 y'all bringing up critical race theory to use it as 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:31.600 a you know, a foil to mobilize white fear, to 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.400 stoke white fear for no reason at all. You know. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.240 The reality here too, is that you want to go 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.480 back to marriage equality. And I tweeted and I said, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.560 I want you to recognize ROPI Wade has been around 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:50.400 for forty eight years, right and you're looking, I'm saying, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.080 go back to Brown versus the Board of Education. If 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.440 you think that that isn't going to be up on 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.880 the chopping blocks and I said, everything that you think 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.200 was codified into law is the quote unquote law of 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:09.200 the land became up for grabs when Mitch McConnell stole 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:15.280 Merrick Garland's Supreme Court seat and then got too additional, right, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.480 got too additional. That's what happened. You have three over 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.000 three hundred federal judges that were put that were put 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.280 in by Donald Trump, many of which the American Bar 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.280 Association said are not even qualified. And then you have 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.440 three Supreme Court justices that were also put in by Trump. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.400 People think that getting rid of Trump was going to be, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.560 you know, our saving grace. Trump Ism has now is 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:43.360 going to be here for generations. Right, Kids that are 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.280 not even born are going to have to live under 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.640 Trump is m because of what Mitch McConnell was able 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.800 to do to the courts and what we allowed him 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.280 to do because there was room there for pushback, there 0:15:55.360 --> 0:16:00.359 was room there for lawsuits, there was room there. But Obama, 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.800 you know, SETA, I don't want to ruffle feathers. I 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.000 don't want to do I don't you know, I don't 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.800 want to be up in arms around this. You know, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.080 we can still collaborate with people who have been at 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.040 war with you, and again you use the exact right 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.360 word war. This is the war that we are in. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.440 They have been waging a non violent civil war that 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:26.840 just recently, with Kyle Rittenhouse being the first shot literally 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:33.200 over the ball right, has turned violent. You have Paul 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:39.600 Goser in Congress, a congressman putting out violent anime of 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.160 him murdering one of his colleagues. Where do folks think 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.880 that this is going? You have Marjorie Taylor Green with 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.880 an ar fifteen, sunglasses on, and and and and gun 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.640 shots behind her again with the faces of her colleagues. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.680 So we keep wanting to believe and operate in this 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.840 did this false reality that we are in a two 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:08.000 party system where you have Republicans that believe in the 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.560 success of the country regardless of who is at the 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.000 helm of it. And what Republicans have been telling us 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.000 and showing us since two thousand and eight is that 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.120 they don't want the country to succeed, that they benefit 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.919 more if it is in peril, right, because they're able 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.640 to hold power, grab power, and scare the shit out 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.879 of people into believing that somebody's coming to take your guns. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.639 A black man's gonna marry your white daughter, and like 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.880 all hell is going to break loose. I mean, that's 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.880 I mean, this is where we are. Mark, you brought up. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.720 We had a school shooting, right enough, This was according 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.879 to analysts who do guns gun rights. This was the 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:58.880 twenty eighth school shooting this school year. It's December. It's December, 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.520 schools at school, it's only been in session for four 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.760 damn months, and it's the twenty eighth. One four kids 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:10.480 are dead. Right, But you have parents, you have white 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.040 parents in the Midwestern, in the South, wanted to protests 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.960 at school boards for mass mandates that they think will 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.240 traumatize their kids. Where the fuck are the protests for 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.840 not sending your kids to school? In a hal of bullets? 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.639 That's right, that's right, that's right because because that's the 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.399 culture of America. Bullets. Okay, we're good with that. We 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.480 can have bullets. It turns out the mother of the 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:39.399 shooter thank Trump for the right to bear arms in 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:47.680 a twenty sixteen open letter. This is the culture. This 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:55.520 is this is the culture of America. Violence, intimidation, the romanticization. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.280 These people still romantics as Jane where six, They don't 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:03.119 see anything wrong with they still see that as okay. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:07.840 They they mark, they romanticize and still perform the Civil War. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.760 They have Civil War reenactments. Of course they are about 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.400 to there. Of course they are still romanticizing January six 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.720 because they think that those motherfuckers were patriots right, like 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.800 they are patriots. They stood up for what was right. 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.440 You have Kyle Rittenhouse that killed two people. Marjorie Taylor 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.800 Green's trying to give him a Congressional Medal of Freedom. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.400 You have you have members of Congress that are want 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.600 arm Russell to make and to make yeah, and to 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.560 make him a congressional intern. So if I'm if I'm 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.240 a woman of color and I'm working on Capitol Hill, 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.000 if I'm Alexandrio Cassio Cortez, a representative ilhan Omar, and 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.840 you're talking about bringing in a murderer to come and 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.960 work on Capitol Hill, and then you're threat and then 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.960 you're sending out violent anime videos to why are we 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.240 still acting like this Republican Party is a is a 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.440 party of opposed ideology when when what they are is 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.600 a terrorist organization that is very well funded by the 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:15.720 fucking taxpayers. That's the conversation that I want to see 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.040 and be having in mainstream media when they're still bringing 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.040 on Republican representatives talking about, Oh, I think they're going 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.760 to be gumming up the works. They are literally organizing 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:32.000 an army of the unvaccinated and literally organizing militias to 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:37.960 come take this country back. But we want to we 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.040 want to pretend right now that the biggest problem that 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.400 we're dealing with is an impending government shut down. When 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:50.760 they are trying to shut democracy down, let me be 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.359 the grinch, because it's beginning to look a lot like 0:20:54.520 --> 0:21:00.240 autocracy everywhere. You look like I mean it to me, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:02.360 you know, And I want to I want to get 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:09.640 your thoughts and reflections too, on the recent cases that 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:15.760 we followed with regard to the McMichaels right in the 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.480 killing of amand Aubrey, who were found guilty on pretty 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.720 much all counts to the written House case right. And 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.399 what I have said on wok AF so many times 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.200 is that you know, White America loves to see this 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.600 like kind of cancel out approach, right so that they 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.560 can continue to believe that the justice system actually works, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.399 when in fact it does not. Because the fact that 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:48.480 we were praying right for a guilty verdict in the 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:53.680 McMichael's case when it was so evident, right what happened, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.639 and that if it had not been for people uprising, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:01.720 for people marching right, that two da and the cops 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.080 in Georgia sent the McMichaels home with blood on them, 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:10.000 talking about go along with your day, right, there would 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.959 have been no trial. There would have been no guilty verdict. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.560 And I had to remind folks of that that wanted 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.760 to say, oh, well, at least justice was served in 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:19.840 this case. What the fuck are you talking about justice? 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:24.000 Are you crazy? Right? And so you know, what are 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.959 your thoughts when we have these two very clear cases. 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.080 And again, Kyle Rittenhouse didn't kill black people. He killed 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.880 white folks. He killed the white folks allies, just like 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.240 they were killing white folks you know during the civil 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.920 the civil rights you know, bus tours into the South, 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.720 ripping people up and tearing them off of the buses, 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.000 beating the shit out of them, blowing them up. Do 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.080 you know what I'm saying. So it's the freedom writers, 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.399 it's the same, it's the same situation. And they weren't 0:22:53.400 --> 0:23:01.240 convicted then and they're not being convicted now. Yeah. Yeah, 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:08.120 this is. I mean, all of that is true, all 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:15.960 of that is real. The thing is that it's hard 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.520 for us to feel but so much relief from the 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:25.040 McMichael's trial when we know that a man never should 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:26.480 have been killed in the first place in your right. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.600 It was just really prayer and grace and intervention that 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:35.199 those charges we've brought people had to go down to Georgia. 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.919 And that's why the defense atternity didn't want any of 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.800 us down there. And he preaches any leaders, any civil 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.879 rights folk, any activists, because if it had not been 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:54.160 for that type of activism, that other prosecutor never would 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.760 have gotten called out. This case would have never have 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.119 been seen. And it really been shade them because I 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.040 don't know if you remember this and the timing, folks, 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:09.719 our Bury was before Floyd yep now and people may 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.639 not remember this now because we we would would you 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.040 go back to remember it's stuck in the house, our 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.600 Bury happens and that video was on a loop these 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.200 and it really traumatized the whole country. I mean, I 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:23.560 had white folks, I didn't heard the front of them 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.520 me years. I didn't heard white folks don't even like me, man, 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.560 We gotta talk it's what you want to talk to 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.640 me for. I can't believe this, this, this stuff still happens. Yeah, 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.639 we've been trying to tell you all that, all right. 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:37.680 I mean it really mucked people up, right, and then 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.119 comes Floyd to just put the you know, put it 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.439 the exclamation point on it. And then right after that 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.840 Brianna Taylor. That was the summer y'all of twenty twenty 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.639 um and as traumatic as those first Army and it 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.080 was so bad. Remember there was even a movement to 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.320 get people don't show the video anymore. It's too traumatic, 0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:03.800 too triggering. It's dishonoring the victim about that because because 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:07.320 maybe il Mobile put Im Matill's pictures out there for 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:08.800 the people with world to see, so I don't there's 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.480 a thin line between that and something else. But be 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.240 that as it may. It was taken down and then 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.879 nothing was still going to happen. Nothing was going to happen. 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:26.080 This is the this is the reality of everyday life 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.359 in America that we have to pray that our sons 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:35.400 and daughters are not pursued and killed in this way. 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.879 It is that is something we wake up every moore 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.720 and as black people that crosses our minds that this 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.600 could happen this and then you, like you said, you 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.840 get written house. Well, yeah, he killed a couple of 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:51.000 white people, but these were people who were um demonstrating 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:56.040 in support of Black Lives matter. Yeah, and he could 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.240 have very easily killed two black people. Could have killed anybody, 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.000 and he might and others might. Ye, there may be 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.840 more written houses because you you've even got laws now. 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.240 One of the things colored change is fighting. You've even 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:14.320 got laws now that encourage people to harm First Amendment protesters. 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.119 That's scary. So how many amendments are there? How many 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.600 amendments in the bill rights? I don't remember ten twelve 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:28.359 I came in, Okay, ten amendments. I think, Um, this 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.520 ain't amendment two, three, four or five. This amendment one, 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:38.440