1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA EPI Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording live from the Brooklyn Silarium. Folks, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to bring back to you an episode 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: of Planets Fuck, Make It Woke. It is our crossover 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: episode with our friend and colleague, the Reverend Mark Thompson 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: of Make It Plain in this conversation that we have, 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: and it is a supersized episode that we put together 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: for all of you. Is you know, because we decided 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: to do this show as a monthly heading up to 10 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: the mid term elections. We decided that this episode we 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: would give a reflection on where things are, where things 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: stand in our body politic right now, and what our 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: thoughts are for when the calendar year changes and we 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: rev up into the mid term. So I hope you 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: will enjoy this new episode of Make It Woke, Plane 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: as Fuck. You tell me, folks, I am so excited 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: to welcome back everyone to our monthly crossover with our friend, 18 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson of Make It Plane joining Woke 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 1: a f so that we can make shit plane as fuck. 20 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: So on this episode, you know we're going to provide 21 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: a I guess what is it? Mark a reflection or 22 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: wrap up a Hail Mary to the past year, looking 23 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: ahead to what we expect is going to be happening 24 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: in January. But you know, before we even jump into 25 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the specifics, I cannot believe that this is the end 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. Like I, my mind is still 27 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: blown that we are about to be two years inside 28 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: of a pandemic that you know, even though Donald Trump 29 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: is gone, Trumps M is winning and raging strong. How 30 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: are you feeling as we're coming to the end of 31 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: this year? The year has and first of all, always 32 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: great to collaborate with you, Danielle. The year has flown by, 33 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: and it's odd because we're still I guess coming out 34 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: of or still in. I don't know if we're fully 35 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: out of it yet. This pandemic culture and environment where 36 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: it's it's very strange. And I think too looking at 37 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the days and weeks to come. You know, the news 38 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: cycle is getting shorter and shorter, so we got a 39 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: whole another month of stuff that could happen before we 40 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: get to January. So I'm I'm just trying to get 41 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: to Christmas, which I'm not ready for yet. Uh not 42 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: to mention it getting ready for January. I mean we 43 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: even have if you I mean we just you know, 44 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: we just had another another shooting. You know, I want 45 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: to talk about that, um coming on the heels of 46 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: ritten house. You know, there's still this gun violence. But 47 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: nobody says right on wait violence you know we it's us. 48 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: It's just we have when y'all going to address you 49 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: all's problem with violence. And so there's that. UM. You 50 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: and I talked the last time we together about the 51 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: party which many of us support but doesn't seem to 52 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: love us back. And it's gonna language. So this, this 53 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: is it. This month is do or die for the 54 00:03:53,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Party in the sense that if these pieces of legislation, 55 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and there's a myriad of them from voting rights and 56 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: then go to suppression all of that, even reparations, which 57 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: I was on a meeting for today, if we have 58 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: to this is breaking news. I have not even announced 59 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: this on my show yet. I'll make a plan at 60 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: this moment between with the total of co sponsors for 61 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: HR forty, the reparations built, and the total of committed 62 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: yes votes is two hundred fourteen, which means we are 63 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: eight votes from passage. Of HR forty. Now, what usually 64 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: happens in that situation is when it's that close, it's 65 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: like it wasn't Build Back Better. They didn't have all 66 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: the votes to build Back Better in the House. So 67 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: what the leadership then does is they go and they whip, 68 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: they get the last few they need, and they do 69 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: whatever they need to do. Twist time, say hey, come 70 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: with the caucus. Some Democrats are afraid. It is the irony. 71 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: You got two hundred and fourteen people on the bill, 72 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: but yet there's a small number who are afraid, Well, 73 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: if you do this, we pass reparations that's going to 74 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: hurt us in in vulnerable and competitive districts. But two 75 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: hundred fourteen year all on the build and the two 76 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: hundred fourteen members of the Congressional Black Caucus. This is 77 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: a majority of white members of Congress that support HR forty. 78 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: So what's what's the big deal? So we got to 79 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: deal with that, and then really the whole jig is up. 80 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: We hope that happens back the end of the month. 81 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: But just like build back Better, build back Better has 82 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to happen bay the end of the month. And also 83 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: either John Lewis for the people of freedom to vote, 84 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: which was the Mansion compromise. All of those would address 85 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the jerrymandering and rot to suppression. I mean, you know, 86 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: you got states like Ohio jerrymandering eighty percent, for Trump's 87 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina jereymandering seventy eight percent. I don't mean I 88 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: for Trump for Republican House seats, Texas sixty five percent 89 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: for Republican House seats. All of these states Ohio, North Carolina, 90 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and Texas Trump barely won, barely states that Biden one 91 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Georgia jeremandering sixty four Republican House seats. One Wisconsin jeremandering 92 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: seventy five percent Republican House seats. So this is this 93 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: is existential. They can they have the ability to jerrymander 94 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: themselves a House majority without people voting them out. And 95 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I hope I made that clear. They create more Republican 96 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: districts that we definitely can win in and then they 97 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: get a House majority. Mansion is doing that, and how 98 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: one person still how the White House and no one 99 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: else has figured out how to prevent one person from 100 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: having that power, And it's got to happen this month. 101 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: So December is do a dad for the Democrats. You know. 102 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: It's so I don't think you know, you use the 103 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: word existential, and that is absolutely the right word to use. 104 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: And the fact is is that I don't believe that 105 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: people across the country, regular Americans, understand exactly what an 106 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: existential threat this is. I think that right now, even 107 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: with what the Supreme Court is doing with the gutting, 108 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: completely dismantling of Roev Wade, I put up a map 109 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: the other day on you on Instagram that shows exactly 110 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: what the country will look like in a post Rob 111 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Wade world, and it is like about ten states that 112 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: women are going to be able to get an abortion 113 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: in and it is going to be outlawed because what 114 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: people don't know is that they have trigger laws that 115 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: are in place that if you move viability right of 116 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: a collection of sales, if you move viability from twenty 117 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: four weeks right to fifteen, then there's no reason why 118 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: it won't be ten, it won't be nine, it won't 119 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: be a week, right. And so these trigger laws that 120 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: folks in the South and across the Midwest have are 121 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: just itching and waiting. And the thing that I have 122 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: put up and said is that if you think this 123 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: stops at Roe v. Wade, You are out of your mind. 124 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: This just this Robert's Court is the reason why we 125 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: have over four hundred bills right now right across the 126 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: country that are about jerrymandering and voter suppression. It's because 127 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: of the decision that was made right to end preclearance 128 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: for historically racist states in this country. Roberts wanted us 129 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: to believe. At what Rachel Madao how said on the 130 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: election out of Obama, Oh, we're post racial, so we 131 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: don't need to have the same preclearance when these historically 132 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: racist states that have been ground zero for domestic terrorism 133 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: in this country. Oh, they don't need anymore oversight when 134 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: they decide to change your voter suppression laws. As soon 135 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: as that became the new law of the land, as 136 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: soon as we hollowed out this nineteen forty nineteen sixty 137 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: four Act, Republicans the salivating that we have seen right 138 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: the chomping at the bit to undermine our democracy and 139 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: to literally silence the voices of the majority of this country. 140 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: You see, because when when we all got the alert 141 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: that twenty thirty, twenty fifty it was going to be 142 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: majority minority, right, majority bipop people in this country, right, 143 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: we're all sitting around applauding and getting excited. They got actionable, 144 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: the white supremacy got actionable. And so if this is 145 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: what it looks like when we have the House, the Senate, 146 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: and the White House, what do we think it's gonna 147 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: look like when they take back the House and the 148 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Senate in twenty twenty two. And they're not even doing 149 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: it on any policy. They're just doing it on saying 150 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: we're about white supremacy. We're about no mandates whatsoever unless 151 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: we are mandating what a woman can and cannot do 152 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: with her reproductive health. You know, you're right. That Row 153 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: piece was pretty a devastating display of just subjugation. And 154 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: then the Mississippi ag comparing Road to Plussy versus Ferguson. 155 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: And I think that Justice Sotomayor probably gave one of 156 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: the the will go down in history as one of 157 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: the greatest quotes in the history of the Screen Court 158 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: when she said this looks too political? What will the 159 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: result of the stench be from making these types of decisions? 160 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: But let gonna tell you last night, I'm on Twitter. 161 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I started to call you, see if you got your 162 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: passport ready? I was like, let's go to Poland. Then 163 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: people in the streets. It looks like the million man 164 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: March and the march Women's March all together at the 165 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: same time in Poland right now for the same reason. 166 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Because they're trying to outlaw a bush. They are in 167 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the streets. So now if we were to do that 168 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: in this country, if they really go back against Row 169 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: and see women, this is where y'all come in. Take 170 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: something right now, Women can change his whole thing. That's 171 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: the only saving grace. If they reverse Row Danielle and 172 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: then women respond on Moss at the polls and elsewhere, 173 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: that might be the only thing that keeps them out 174 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: of the majority. To me, that's a big gamble for 175 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: them because I mean, do you want to awaken this 176 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: sleeping giant, And by sleeping, I mean women have yet 177 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: as an electorate. They did it in twenty twenty. That's 178 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: why Biden's a women decide, Okay, we finish the Trump. 179 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: But then they decided to come back in Kentucky and 180 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: let us know, that's just we just want to get 181 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: rid of Trump, but we'll deal with moderately racist people. 182 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: But women have got to decide as the majority of 183 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: people in this country the majority of electorate, are you 184 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: going to allow them to take away your reproductive rights? 185 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: It's tricky because for a segment of the white women's electorate, 186 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: things go back to the way they were before Row. 187 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: They can still get abortions because they can afford to 188 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: go somewhere and get them. So the question is will 189 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: they stand up for women who afford that writes privacy? 190 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: And and and just one more thing, it ain't just about 191 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: a bostion, y'all, As Danielle said, it's a slippery slope 192 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: to everything else. See see folks saw them take away 193 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: the chief extract the teeth from the Voting Rights Act, 194 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: and nobody thought would they might do the same thing 195 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: the road or the same sex or the marriage equality. 196 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: But that's what they do. They start in one place 197 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: and then they started coming for everything. If y'all think 198 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: that you don't think they can, they can reconsider and 199 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: see some people on the front line and order to 200 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: get that. They already bracing for them to come back 201 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: to marriage equality. Even so, so you know this is 202 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: this is that we cannot rest. This is the war 203 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: we're in and we people have got to stop being 204 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: radicalized by false issues like critical race theory. That's not 205 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: real right now. It's about critical voter suppression theory, critical 206 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: women's rights to their own body. That's the real stuff. 207 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: But they want to distract you, oh Market Danielle trying 208 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: to get a critical race theory in the school. No, no no, 209 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: we're not trying to get critic race theory ain't in 210 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: the schools. It never was. And if anything, the movement 211 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: that we had back in the nineties, late eighties and 212 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: nineties around changing curriculum, African center curriculum, multicultural curriculum, we 213 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: lost that battle. They beat us on that, and so 214 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: we would have been the ones to bringing that back up, 215 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: y'all bringing up critical race theory to use it as 216 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: a you know, a foil to mobilize white fear, to 217 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: stoke white fear for no reason at all. You know. 218 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: The reality here too, is that you want to go 219 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: back to marriage equality. And I tweeted and I said, 220 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I want you to recognize ROPI Wade has been around 221 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: for forty eight years, right and you're looking, I'm saying, 222 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: go back to Brown versus the Board of Education. If 223 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: you think that that isn't going to be up on 224 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the chopping blocks and I said, everything that you think 225 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: was codified into law is the quote unquote law of 226 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: the land became up for grabs when Mitch McConnell stole 227 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland's Supreme Court seat and then got too additional, right, 228 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: got too additional. That's what happened. You have three over 229 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: three hundred federal judges that were put that were put 230 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: in by Donald Trump, many of which the American Bar 231 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Association said are not even qualified. And then you have 232 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: three Supreme Court justices that were also put in by Trump. 233 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: People think that getting rid of Trump was going to be, 234 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, our saving grace. Trump Ism has now is 235 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: going to be here for generations. Right, Kids that are 236 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: not even born are going to have to live under 237 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Trump is m because of what Mitch McConnell was able 238 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to do to the courts and what we allowed him 239 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: to do because there was room there for pushback, there 240 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 1: was room there for lawsuits, there was room there. But Obama, 241 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, SETA, I don't want to ruffle feathers. I 242 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do I don't you know, I don't 243 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: want to be up in arms around this. You know, 244 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: we can still collaborate with people who have been at 245 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: war with you, and again you use the exact right 246 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: word war. This is the war that we are in. 247 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: They have been waging a non violent civil war that 248 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: just recently, with Kyle Rittenhouse being the first shot literally 249 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: over the ball right, has turned violent. You have Paul 250 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: Goser in Congress, a congressman putting out violent anime of 251 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: him murdering one of his colleagues. Where do folks think 252 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: that this is going? You have Marjorie Taylor Green with 253 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: an ar fifteen, sunglasses on, and and and and gun 254 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: shots behind her again with the faces of her colleagues. 255 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: So we keep wanting to believe and operate in this 256 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: did this false reality that we are in a two 257 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: party system where you have Republicans that believe in the 258 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: success of the country regardless of who is at the 259 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: helm of it. And what Republicans have been telling us 260 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: and showing us since two thousand and eight is that 261 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: they don't want the country to succeed, that they benefit 262 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: more if it is in peril, right, because they're able 263 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: to hold power, grab power, and scare the shit out 264 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: of people into believing that somebody's coming to take your guns. 265 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: A black man's gonna marry your white daughter, and like 266 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: all hell is going to break loose. I mean, that's 267 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where we are. Mark, you brought up. 268 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: We had a school shooting, right enough, This was according 269 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: to analysts who do guns gun rights. This was the 270 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighth school shooting this school year. It's December. It's December, 271 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: schools at school, it's only been in session for four 272 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: damn months, and it's the twenty eighth. One four kids 273 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: are dead. Right, But you have parents, you have white 274 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: parents in the Midwestern, in the South, wanted to protests 275 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: at school boards for mass mandates that they think will 276 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: traumatize their kids. Where the fuck are the protests for 277 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: not sending your kids to school? In a hal of bullets? 278 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right because because that's the 279 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: culture of America. Bullets. Okay, we're good with that. We 280 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: can have bullets. It turns out the mother of the 281 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: shooter thank Trump for the right to bear arms in 282 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: a twenty sixteen open letter. This is the culture. This 283 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: is this is the culture of America. Violence, intimidation, the romanticization. 284 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: These people still romantics as Jane where six, They don't 285 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: see anything wrong with they still see that as okay. 286 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: They they mark, they romanticize and still perform the Civil War. 287 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: They have Civil War reenactments. Of course they are about 288 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: to there. Of course they are still romanticizing January six 289 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: because they think that those motherfuckers were patriots right, like 290 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: they are patriots. They stood up for what was right. 291 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: You have Kyle Rittenhouse that killed two people. Marjorie Taylor 292 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Green's trying to give him a Congressional Medal of Freedom. 293 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: You have you have members of Congress that are want 294 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: arm Russell to make and to make yeah, and to 295 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: make him a congressional intern. So if I'm if I'm 296 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: a woman of color and I'm working on Capitol Hill, 297 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: if I'm Alexandrio Cassio Cortez, a representative ilhan Omar, and 298 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about bringing in a murderer to come and 299 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: work on Capitol Hill, and then you're threat and then 300 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: you're sending out violent anime videos to why are we 301 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: still acting like this Republican Party is a is a 302 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: party of opposed ideology when when what they are is 303 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: a terrorist organization that is very well funded by the 304 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: fucking taxpayers. That's the conversation that I want to see 305 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: and be having in mainstream media when they're still bringing 306 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: on Republican representatives talking about, Oh, I think they're going 307 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: to be gumming up the works. They are literally organizing 308 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: an army of the unvaccinated and literally organizing militias to 309 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: come take this country back. But we want to we 310 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: want to pretend right now that the biggest problem that 311 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: we're dealing with is an impending government shut down. When 312 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: they are trying to shut democracy down, let me be 313 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: the grinch, because it's beginning to look a lot like 314 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: autocracy everywhere. You look like I mean it to me, 315 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, And I want to I want to get 316 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: your thoughts and reflections too, on the recent cases that 317 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: we followed with regard to the McMichaels right in the 318 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: killing of amand Aubrey, who were found guilty on pretty 319 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: much all counts to the written House case right. And 320 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: what I have said on wok AF so many times 321 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: is that you know, White America loves to see this 322 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: like kind of cancel out approach, right so that they 323 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: can continue to believe that the justice system actually works, 324 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: when in fact it does not. Because the fact that 325 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: we were praying right for a guilty verdict in the 326 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: McMichael's case when it was so evident, right what happened, 327 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and that if it had not been for people uprising, 328 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: for people marching right, that two da and the cops 329 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: in Georgia sent the McMichaels home with blood on them, 330 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: talking about go along with your day, right, there would 331 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: have been no trial. There would have been no guilty verdict. 332 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: And I had to remind folks of that that wanted 333 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: to say, oh, well, at least justice was served in 334 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: this case. What the fuck are you talking about justice? 335 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Right? And so you know, what are 336 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: your thoughts when we have these two very clear cases. 337 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: And again, Kyle Rittenhouse didn't kill black people. He killed 338 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: white folks. He killed the white folks allies, just like 339 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: they were killing white folks you know during the civil 340 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: the civil rights you know, bus tours into the South, 341 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: ripping people up and tearing them off of the buses, 342 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: beating the shit out of them, blowing them up. Do 343 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's the freedom writers, 344 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: it's the same, it's the same situation. And they weren't 345 00:22:53,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: convicted then and they're not being convicted now. Yeah. Yeah, 346 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: this is. I mean, all of that is true, all 347 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: of that is real. The thing is that it's hard 348 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: for us to feel but so much relief from the 349 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: McMichael's trial when we know that a man never should 350 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: have been killed in the first place in your right. 351 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: It was just really prayer and grace and intervention that 352 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: those charges we've brought people had to go down to Georgia. 353 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: And that's why the defense atternity didn't want any of 354 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: us down there. And he preaches any leaders, any civil 355 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: rights folk, any activists, because if it had not been 356 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: for that type of activism, that other prosecutor never would 357 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: have gotten called out. This case would have never have 358 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: been seen. And it really been shade them because I 359 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this and the timing, folks, 360 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: our Bury was before Floyd yep now and people may 361 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: not remember this now because we we would would you 362 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: go back to remember it's stuck in the house, our 363 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: Bury happens and that video was on a loop these 364 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: and it really traumatized the whole country. I mean, I 365 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: had white folks, I didn't heard the front of them 366 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: me years. I didn't heard white folks don't even like me, man, 367 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: We gotta talk it's what you want to talk to 368 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: me for. I can't believe this, this, this stuff still happens. Yeah, 369 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: we've been trying to tell you all that, all right. 370 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean it really mucked people up, right, and then 371 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: comes Floyd to just put the you know, put it 372 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: the exclamation point on it. And then right after that 373 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor. That was the summer y'all of twenty twenty 374 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: um and as traumatic as those first Army and it 375 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: was so bad. Remember there was even a movement to 376 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: get people don't show the video anymore. It's too traumatic, 377 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: too triggering. It's dishonoring the victim about that because because 378 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe il Mobile put Im Matill's pictures out there for 379 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the people with world to see, so I don't there's 380 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: a thin line between that and something else. But be 381 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: that as it may. It was taken down and then 382 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: nothing was still going to happen. Nothing was going to happen. 383 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: This is the this is the reality of everyday life 384 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: in America that we have to pray that our sons 385 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: and daughters are not pursued and killed in this way. 386 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: It is that is something we wake up every moore 387 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: and as black people that crosses our minds that this 388 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: could happen this and then you, like you said, you 389 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: get written house. Well, yeah, he killed a couple of 390 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: white people, but these were people who were um demonstrating 391 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: in support of Black Lives matter. Yeah, and he could 392 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: have very easily killed two black people. Could have killed anybody, 393 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: and he might and others might. Ye, there may be 394 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: more written houses because you you've even got laws now. 395 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: One of the things colored change is fighting. You've even 396 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: got laws now that encourage people to harm First Amendment protesters. 397 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: That's scary. So how many amendments are there? How many 398 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: amendments in the bill rights? I don't remember ten twelve 399 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: I came in, Okay, ten amendments. I think, Um, this 400 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: ain't amendment two, three, four or five. This amendment one, 401 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: very first amendment is the right to as symbol right one. 402 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: They didn't put it on the list priority, they didn't 403 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: put it down nine ten. It is one. And they're 404 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: saying now that you can be a written house, you 405 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: can you can kill they have a First Amendment rights protests, 406 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: you have a First Amendment right to kill them. That's 407 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: what happened with Heather Higher in Charlottesville, and that's to 408 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: scare us. And it is scared because anyway that could 409 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: be any one of us, any the car can run 410 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: over us in a demonstration. I mean that's I mean, 411 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly what the santis. That's what he passed, right 412 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: that if if if, if you are shutting down because 413 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: what had become effective if folks remember back in twenty nineteen, 414 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, what had become effective was shutting down the highways, 415 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: shutting down the roads, you know, uh, in order to 416 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: in order to protest, right, if I got to live 417 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: a life of being traumatized, right, then I'm gonna inconvenience you. 418 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: How about that? Because racism, systemic racism is fucking inconvenient 419 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: to me. Right. And so then you have all these 420 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: slew of Republican governors and mayors being like, oh no, 421 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: kill him, right and and nothing will happened to you. 422 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: It's the same thing that Donald Trump had said at 423 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: his rallies during the twenty sixteen presidential election. Rough him up, 424 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: kill him, knock him out, I'll pay your legal fees, right, 425 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: And so that this is the thing when you said 426 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: at the beginning, you know, we because we do not 427 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: control the media, right, Black and brown people have always 428 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: been presented as if we are the We are the 429 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: violent ones that need to be subdued, that need to 430 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: be put down, We are the animals. Right, But if 431 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: you actually look at the history of violence in this country, 432 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: who the fuck is at the helm of it? From 433 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: the trail a Teers to hundreds of years of it 434 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: slavery right to then a hundred years of Jim Crowe. 435 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Who is the one that is wielding the power of 436 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: terror and violence in this country? It is White America. 437 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: But because they're the ones that are in control and 438 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: are the ones that get to tell the narrative, that 439 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: get to write the history, that get to decide who 440 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: and when and how it's taught, they get to say 441 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: that it's us that we are. We we have to 442 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: act in reaction to and in protection of our land, 443 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: our home, our property, because without such they'll run them up. 444 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: There'll be a whole revolt. Right. Why all the black 445 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: kids can't sit together in the cafeteria, Why black people 446 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: can't gather without being passed by police on the fucking street, 447 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: going all the way back to slavery. No, No, because 448 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: too many black people and brown people together talking, they 449 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: must be trying to overthrow the system. And in this 450 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: fucking case, I absolutely am eh ah overthrow. I mean, 451 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: because I don't know when we're going to overcome Mark, 452 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: So so my feeling, right, You've been working to overcome, 453 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: You've been marching and preaching to overcome, and I'm like, 454 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I am ready to overthrow because I I don't see 455 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I feel And this is you know, one of the 456 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: last questions for you is that, like, do you see 457 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: an option? As we are headed into this new year, 458 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: to this election year, to this cycle, we have a 459 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: new variant right of COVID nineteen. We got federal judges 460 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: that are blocking the president's vaccine mandates to just ensure 461 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: that COVID continues to mutate on itself every single moment. Right. 462 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: We have killers that are being allowed to you know, 463 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: walk the streets in attend college and just act as 464 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: if all is okay. Right, we got gun violence running 465 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: them up, I mean, we got abortion on the line, Like, 466 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: where do you see because tell me, where do you 467 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: see the hope As we're getting ready to turn this 468 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: calendar year of our ability to fight back against what 469 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: I am seeing as the inevitable, Well, I think that 470 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: this is a very interesting question. You're asking the hope 471 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: in our ability to fight back. Part of the problem 472 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: and part of the culture in America is that it 473 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: promote and encourage promotes and encourages apathy. If we could 474 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: get a vaccine for apathy, we could slay all these dragons. 475 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: But but but we don't. We don't have one. And 476 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: when the when those who are oppressed, be the African Americans, 477 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: or immigrants, or women or LGBT who whatever group is 478 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: dealing with oppression, and then the overarching oppression for all 479 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: of these people. One of the things I think Bishop 480 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Barbera does is it point out how all of us 481 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: in middle class are really de facto working poor. So 482 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: when you don't have anybody you're just trying to make it, 483 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: it's even more challenging to fight back and do the 484 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: very overthrow you're talking about. It. It's not always as 485 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: many because everybody's just literally struggling to try to make 486 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: ends meet. And that's how they control us. That's what 487 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: capitalism does. We've got to figure out a way to 488 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: enable people to get out here and still provide for 489 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: their families minimally, but at the same time get in 490 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: the streets other cultures do it. We in this country 491 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: somehow tend to be more placated by certain things that 492 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: distract us from doing that. We look at the country 493 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: trying where folks get down the street, they shut it down. 494 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: What you're saying overthrow. We may have to get to 495 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: that point, and it may take it may take role, 496 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: because I do think women play an important role in this, 497 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if women got 498 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: organized and mobilized, it would make a great deal difference, 499 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: especially young women. It may take something like road to 500 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: get that done. But but there's the hope and the 501 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: ability for me is that I know that we have 502 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the capacity to do it. The question is whether or 503 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: not we have the resources and the energy. Just for example, 504 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: and this is not what I'm about to say. It's 505 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: not even revolutionary what you're talking about. And I'm totally 506 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: about revolutionary. But see even in my case, you know, 507 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: when I was a younger man, not that I'm not 508 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: still young, I would talk more and more about revolution. 509 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: Ready for the revolution. That's how Climy Tira used to 510 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: always greet people when he answer the phone, Ready for 511 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: the revolution. Ready for the revolution. But when you're out 512 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: here moving around. You have to stay within the context 513 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: of where the people are. Well, I was, we don't 514 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: on people saying that, so what about Nobody else was 515 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: talking about revolution, So we kind of had to work 516 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: within the confines of what people will and capacity was okay, 517 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: So now if we could just do this one thing, 518 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: figure out a way for there to be universal voter registration, 519 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: and by that, I mean if we we did it ourselves, 520 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: like everyone just said, you know what, I'm mixture, I'm 521 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: registered and I'm gonna go vote, and I'm not gonna 522 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: just gonna vote federal elections. I'm gonna vote down to 523 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: the ballot. See we had voted more down to ballot. Yeah, 524 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: we would control more state legislatures and then affect this redistrict. 525 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: But we didn't have to compet the the the whatever 526 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: the political culture is right now. It was too much. 527 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: It's got trum tum trump, tump Trump, tump Trump. We 528 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: got to get Trump out. There was not enough bandwidth 529 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: for people to be organized and for people to receive 530 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: We can you just do Trump. We gotta do the 531 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: state thing too. That was that was hard for people 532 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: to get their minds around. Um. But if we stayed 533 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: in the streets, if we made this country ungovernable and 534 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: the people like us who are just just waiting, we're 535 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: holding the fort until everybody else gets there. But we've 536 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: got to get there. We people have got to figure 537 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: out a where to get mobilized. And I think it's 538 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: not it's not a scare tactic to say, y'all, we 539 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: could be looking at Republican leadership, Republican control of government again. 540 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: We could be we always have controlled the Senate, I 541 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: mean of the Scotus of the Supreme Court for generation. 542 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: We could be looking at it in the House and Senate. 543 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: And then I mean Trump could go back and win 544 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: the White House again. Yeah, before we go sat the 545 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: issue about that, what do you think about the way 546 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: the media is kneecapping Kamala Harris. They want to make 547 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 1: sure that somebody who looks like you but not even 548 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: think about running for president or being the person to 549 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: succeed Joe Biden. Yeah, you know, I have been wondering 550 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: for quite some time where the hell Kamala Harris has been? Right? 551 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: I had joked and I had said, you know, on 552 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: woke af many of times I'm just like, should we 553 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: put her on a Milk Carton because I am unclear 554 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: about what the administration is doing to utilize one of 555 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: their best weapons against the Republicans. Now, if folks remember 556 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris's campaign slogan was prosecuting the case against 557 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, now there is no reason that following the 558 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: insurrection that the former attorney general of the largest state 559 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: in the country was not out front reeling again, railing 560 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: against all of the Republican obstruction, the criminality, and allowing 561 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: her to do what she did across the country. To 562 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: Bill Barr during his confirmation, hearing like, you think we're dumb, right, 563 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: you think that we're not paying at men. Right, they 564 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: are not allowing her to do that, and it is 565 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: the administration's fault because I'm almost like they wanted us 566 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: to be really excited about the fact that a black woman, 567 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: a woman of color, Asian Pacific Island or woman was 568 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: going to be vice president of the United States, and 569 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: then they wanted to hide her so as not to 570 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: what remind white people that there's a there's a woman 571 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: of color that is vice president a heartbeat away from 572 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: the from the presidency. So I'm like you, it is 573 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: it's not just the media because this administration is not 574 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: utilizing and now rumors are swirling. You have Simone Sanders 575 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: that just announced that she's going to be leaving the office. 576 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: You have Ashley etn who is her communications director, that 577 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: is also going to be leaving. And this is just 578 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: the first two a very high profile losses from the 579 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: Vice President's office. So I'm saying to myself, what the 580 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: fuck is going on? So on one hand, it isn't 581 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: just the media. The media is always going to do 582 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: what the media does to black women and black people, right, 583 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: like that's that is a given. But this is what 584 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: is the administration doing to support and uplift and put 585 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: her in a position to win. And instead of having 586 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: this fraught, faux competition between a Pete Buddha edge right 587 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: and a Kamala Harris, like who is twenty twenty four 588 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: going to be about? And I'm saying, she needs to 589 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: take her voice back right and command a presence that 590 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: is not worried about what the reaction is going to 591 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: be from the right, but it is about what we 592 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: are doing right now in the moment, in the present time, 593 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: as they are stealing our democracy and broad goddamn daylight. Well, 594 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: I know why you haven't heard it from and you 595 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: know it too. They think about this. Just remind everyone. 596 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: Right before she was selected, the characterization is made that 597 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: she's too ambitious. And if you notice ever since then, 598 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: it's almost as if his deal was cut that okay, 599 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: after black women and black men got together and said, 600 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: that's out of the question, you better pick her now. 601 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: So after he was forced to pick her because she 602 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: was not the first choice by anybody on the Biden team, Okay, 603 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure deal was cut that said, now we do 604 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: think you too ambitious. It's out there, end of public, 605 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: so you better not be ambitious. And so she's she's 606 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: she was sabotaged from the very beginning. And and and 607 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: can't really, I mean she is. And vice presidents of 608 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: vice president. Vice presidents are going to vice president, right. 609 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: Vice presidents do this. They the tradition is you just 610 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: kind of stay in your place and you do whatever 611 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: the president says. I get all of that. But then 612 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: if you're a white male vice president, there's a runway 613 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: that's laid out for you to be able to build 614 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: a case for you to be the successor, all right, 615 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: and that opportunity is not there for her. The prominent 616 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: black staffers that are leaving. I have no idea, but 617 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: I think too it when you start out, um, eating 618 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: the fruit from the poisonous trees. She's ambitious, then there's 619 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: term there's a culture of term will. So you know, ambitious, 620 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: ambitious and ambitiousness is a term that's used every day 621 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: to kneecap black women. So it's interesting that these other 622 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: people are leaving or were they too ambitious? And and 623 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: and and and and when she set that up, you know, 624 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: they can't hire Daniel Moody Mills. Look how you talking 625 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: on the show today. You can't go work in the 626 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: White House if they think black women are too ambitious, 627 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: and and I know what I'm saying is you couldn't 628 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: go there and be Daniel Moody Mills. So so the 629 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: question is, could could Kamala can't be Kamala? Could Ashley 630 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: not be Askeley? Could Simone not be Simone? And you 631 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: just have a great big deal of dysfunction. But here's 632 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: the other thing, as we know, um yeah, yeah, Politico, 633 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: which has now been brought on control back conservatives, is 634 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: leading and it's still considered one of the leading Beltway 635 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: prognosticating or it's like you know the belt Way Book, 636 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: the Oracle. Yeah, they have been consistently hitting her, hitting her, 637 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: hitting her here, and we've even heard that black folk 638 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: over there, who in order to keep their jobs have 639 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: to join in with that. And it's a struggle internally 640 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: there because Political has made it their business to take 641 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: out Kamala Harris. Now, to be fair, if I'm Kamala 642 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: Harris and other people who support her there and you've 643 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: got I mean, it's unfair. But if it's Simone Sanders 644 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: and Ashley's job, Ashley at Tenney's job to fix that, 645 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: to combat that, to come up with a strategy to 646 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: end that, and people in there throwing blamee. That's that's 647 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: what coin Chell pro does. It has us all fighting 648 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: against each other, right, and I'm sure that is what 649 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: is happening because they have fostered that atmosphere. Political is 650 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: foster the atmosphere in the West wing. So now they're 651 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: probably people pointing, but you gotta do this, you gotta 652 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: do this, you gotta stop this, you gotta stop that. 653 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: And now mind you, it used to be a time 654 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: when we get a phone call on wokf on making plain, Well, 655 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: let's talk to Kamala Harris, let's get her side of 656 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: the story. But you know, let's tuck her away, let's 657 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: not do anything. She is under ongoing, fierce attack. And 658 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: that also makes the hiding, I think, unfortunately, self fulfilling prophecy, 659 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: because you don't want to come out because you know, 660 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: what did you say? She smiled too much? Or she 661 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't do this right, she didn't shake the hand the 662 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: right way. I mean, it's it's they political is ready 663 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: to expect it from Fox News, but political pounces on 664 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: her every single day. And and let me tell you 665 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: something unconfirmed. I can't confirm this, but there are some 666 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: rumors that Ashley and Simone were not They didn't just 667 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: leave in a huff of anger or resign, that they 668 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: were fired. And it was, and it was simply because 669 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: of Washington calculus. If you're my communications person and you 670 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: can't fix my communications problem, you lose your job. That's 671 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: just That's just what it is. And what I'm saying is, 672 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: even if whatever the case may be, the problem is 673 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: not internal to Kamala Harris or Ashley or Simone anybody 674 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: else in the this he then it may be some 675 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: folks on the inside, you know, because those are two 676 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: black women hold out other folks in their way, and 677 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: they'd probably some of the same people that came from 678 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: the team. Even if it's one I'm gonna take it 679 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: one mold who agreed with too ambitious. We didn't really 680 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: want her. We wanted Gretchen Whitman. We wanted would even 681 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: take away from her. We wanted Susan Rice. That's what 682 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: this was going. And so people are left back. That's 683 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: what politics is. People are left then to sabotage you 684 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: in your term. And then you know who knows, they 685 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: may not even a person whose name and he may 686 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: be low level on the totem poet. It keeps you know, 687 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: this and this instigation. So then you got black women 688 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: being pitted against each other and it's just confusion in 689 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 1: Politico some and somebody in there talking to political right. 690 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: So that's not good. So I think that it's it's 691 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: very complicated in you're right, it's it's unfortunate um um enclosing. Uh. 692 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: There needs to be a cease and deceased to desist 693 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: from a different culture towards this black woman vice president, 694 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: from a culture of a regular every day white man 695 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: vice president. Treat her like that, treat her office like that, 696 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: cover her the the way this would this? Did Algoy 697 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: go through this? Did Richard Nixon go through this when 698 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: he was vice president running againt John F. Kennedy? You know, 699 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: I did Walter Mindale go through this? None of these 700 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: vice presidents, Hubert Humphrey, none of them went through this. 701 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: But as soon as a black woman comes in there, 702 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: that did Kamala fire et Tna and Sanders did some 703 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: did somebody else? Five? I mean, so it's it's a lot. 704 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot. And and last I said, I know 705 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna say, but NI saying at the end of 706 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: the day too, I want y'all think about this. That 707 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 1: why the West wing sees bad publicity for a vice president. 708 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: Also it's bad publicity for the incumbent president. And at 709 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's his final decision. This 710 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: is bad. So I need to nip this in the 711 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: book because this is gonna be used against me because 712 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: then the pressure is gonna come to drop her from 713 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: the ticket if he runs reelection. Put Boodhijair to somebody else. 714 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: And I don't know, don't tell you right now, that's 715 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: not gonna fly. Don't get me wrong. You know, I 716 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: don't dislike Boota Jadge. You know, I think he has 717 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: some qualities. He's a charismatic dude. It's very hard to 718 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: dislike him. Um. And I think he's a worker. I 719 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: think he will do carry out the assignment that is 720 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: given of him. But wouldn't make him any different from 721 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: um someone else who can do that, who is closer 722 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: to the base constituency of the Democratic Party. And and 723 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: Buddha Jedge just has rubbed the African American community the 724 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: wrong way. And then not and even if even if 725 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: it was just benign and I think it largely is. 726 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: He don't motivate nobody. He's not gonna peep. Oh my god, 727 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: bad and Booty we gotta go get pee Booty and 728 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: dud said, but what him you And I'm gonna tell 729 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 1: you right now, Kamala had her worst day. Nobody's gonna 730 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: stay if Kama did the worst thing she could do, 731 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: and she's not. But if she made the biggest mistake 732 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: of vice president can make. No one is going up 733 00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: by Boota Jadge leap frogging her. No, no, and and 734 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: at like not not not women rit all you know 735 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: at large, like black and brown women, white women, like, 736 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: no woman is going to turn around and be like, 737 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, so yeah, leap frogged a woman and you 738 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: went for the guy like that rubs us all the 739 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: wrong way. Um Mark, as always, I love our supersized 740 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: version of plain as fuck of make it woke. I 741 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 1: love our monthly crossovers, and I pray to God that 742 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: we will still have a country um in a couple 743 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: of weeks when we get to come back and do 744 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: it at the start of twenty twenty two. Yeah, I 745 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,959 Speaker 1: hope so too. I love it too. It's it's always great. 746 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: We have fun talking to each other. And frankly, I 747 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, on my show, I have guests every day, 748 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: so I rarely get to express my thoughts and prognonstications 749 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: on things. So it's a good sum for me to 750 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: do that, and so I do appreciate it. You're amazing. 751 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: Happy Holidays. After she gets called for the overthrow of 752 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: your American system of government. Merry Christmas, y'all, Mary grades wonderful. 753 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 1: That is it for me today here folks on woke 754 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: a f as always, Power to the people and to 755 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: all the people. Power get woke. And stay woke as 756 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: fuck