1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Scott Shannon eight hundred and ninety 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: four one sean our number. You want to be a 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: part of the program, We'll get to your calls here 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: in just a minute. If you're just joining us. For 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the first time in the history of our country, the 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: House has removed a Speaker of the House. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: One thing that had been adopted after nine to eleven. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: I've been telling everybody that Speaker McCarthy had turned over 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: a list of potential replacements. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Patrick T. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: McHenry of North Carolina is such a person. Here's though, 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: where we are. Republicans as we speak, because I just 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: talked to a couple of them during the break, are 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: now going into a meeting to find out, okay, what 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: is the best way to move forward. But as it 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: stands right now, we have a speaker pro tem and 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: that's about it. Because the bottom line is there is 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing that can happen on the House floor, no bills, nothing. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: The body's paralyzed until the floor elects a speaker. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. I kind of agree with Donald Trump. 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Why they're always fighting themselves, uh well, and then should 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: be fighting the radical left Democrats destroying the country. There 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: were legitimate concerns and trust issues. Kevin McCarthy has nobody 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: to blame but himself for not putting the appropriations together 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: bills together as he promised, And there had been lingering 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: resentment from the last budget deal that had been done 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: with that said, you know, there were there were two 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: very viable options put forward that I think would have 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: been that would have worked perfectly. That would have allowed 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the appropriations bills to be complete. That would have given 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: an eight percent cut across the board, meaning in spending 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: in Washington. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: That would have allowed for. 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: An increase in border security, that would have taken care 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: of our veterans and and and our Defense department. There 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: were two separate bills, Chip Roy Byron Donald's, Scott Perry. 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: They were rock stars in this anyway, they're all meeting together, 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: and you know, but this is where we now find ourselves. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Anyway. 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: Former Congressman Jason Chabits, I bet you're dying to be there. 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: I bet you wish you were right in the middle. 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Of this, don't you. 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, to chaos that's going on right now. 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: That part I don't miss. I like fighting, I like 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: the oversight, don't like this stuff. 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like when we're fighting the left. But that's 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: my own personal view, all right, So what do you 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: make of it? I mean, look, in the end, sometimes, 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, you got to break some eggs to get 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: a nice scrambled egg omelet. Maybe in the end this works. However, 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: I think there was definitely options that were available way 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: short of this that they could have united around that 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: would have put the pressure where it belongs, which I 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: think should be on the US Senate Mitch McConnell. But 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: they would have had to, you know, go with the 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: either Chip roy and Scott Perry and Byron Donald's plans. 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: There were two very viable options for a CR that 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: actually had some teeth in it. But you know, here 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: we are. This is what one member's motion to vacate 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: can bring us. There would lessen some legitimate criticisms of Gates. 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing him. However, I do think that the 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: plans put forward by Byron Donald's and Chip Royce should 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: have been That would have been my choice. 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: What say you. 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: Totally agree with you. I would have voted for that 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: to have a eight percent reduction in the discussionary spending 67 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: support for veterans support with a strong border the Senate 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: may not have taken that up, but at least it 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: would have tried. I'm very sympathetic to the arguments that 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: were made by Matt Gates and Congressman Biggs. The idea that, hey, 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: they were going to bring up a balanced budget amendment, 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: they didn't do so, They're going to bring up term limits, 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: so didn't do so, gonna do twelve appropriations bills, didn't 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: do so. But you know in some of the other 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: arguments that were there on the floor that hey, we're 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: trying to restore regular order. Well, you just got off 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: a four week recest, so don't tell me that you 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: didn't have time to do your appropriations bill. With that said, 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: I don't think this was the right solution because there's 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: no endgame in mind other than you know, you know. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: That's that's my criticism of it. I don't like where 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: it ended up and where we are today. Because James 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Comer and Jim Jordan and others were making great strides 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: in their oversight, we got to be out there pressing 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: on the Biden investigations. The arguments against the Senate are valid. 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: All of that comes to a screeching halt right now. 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: So that's my frustration with it because I don't I 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: don't know where this goes. I don't know where there's 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: an end in mind. I don't think it's going to 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: be Patrick McHenry as the next speaker. I can't imagine 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: that that Freedom Caucus type folks are going to vote 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: for somebody like Patrick McHenry. 93 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be em Minnesota either, 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: whose name has been floated a lot. 95 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's going to be him. 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: Well, anybody kind of darre sticks up there head and 97 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: said yeah, I'll do it, which he did not. I 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: don't think is is going to do it. And if 99 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: they look, if they're going after Kevin McCarthy, they're going 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: after the whole leadership team. 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: So that's well. 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Gates just spoke, you know, a complimentary of Steve Scalise, 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: but Steve Scalise has some serious health issues. I don't 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, would you want this job. I 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: would never take that job, especially under the street the 106 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: very we have such This is the problem that I 107 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't quite understand. There is 108 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: a reality that a speaker has to face that those 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: that want to be you know, the most pure conservative, which, 110 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: by the way, I want the most conservative Congress ever. 111 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: But when you when you have a three or four 112 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: seat majority, depending on who shows up and who's in 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: and who's out, a lot of people you know, happen 114 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to be out of the office right now, potentially out 115 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: for some time. Then you know, if you got a 116 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: three vote margin, you're in a tough spot because you 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: have all these disparic groups within the Republican Caucus, including moderates, 118 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: including the Tuesday Group, the Study Group, the Freedom Caucus, 119 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: which I pretty much buy myself in alignment with regularly, 120 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: and so it's it's far more difficult when you got 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: to deal with all those varying factions to actually gain consensus, 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: and with a four you know, three or four vote margin, 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: that's not an easy job. I don't care what anybody says. 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think we ask too much of a speaker. 125 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't think it's the speaker's job to get a 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: predetermined outcome. That seems not compatible with the idea of 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: an open rule. And I thought Congressman Gates actually made 128 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: a valid point here. We may win, we may lose, 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: but let's at least vote and that's the fundamental problem. 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: And I think the frustration is members are not allowed 131 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: to offer their amendments. They don't have open rules, you know, 132 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: and look it. It's even worse, far worse under Nancy Pelosi. 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: I mean, she's had those things so baked before they 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: got there. But I think we asked too much of 135 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: a speaker. Their job should be to bring the bills 136 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: to the floor. Put more emphasis on those committee chairmen 137 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: and let them do it, and get rid of the 138 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: Appropriations Committee for goodness sake. Why they do that separate 139 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: and I'm getting into the weeds here, Sean, but why 140 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: they do the appropriations separate from the authorizing committees is 141 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: beyond me. Because you know, we never use the power 142 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: of the purse. They should be using that power of 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: the person on the Department of Justice right now. Are 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: we doing that? 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: No? 146 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: Should they be doing that on Homeland Security? Yes, but 147 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: they're not doing it, so you can't. 148 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I agree on all points on principal. You and 149 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: I are, you know, in full agreement. I don't disagree 150 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: with the arguments Matt. 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: Gats is making. 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Now you tell me how you deal with these moderate 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Republicans from California New York and elsewhere that are in 154 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: districts that Joe Biden won. 155 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: You know, how do you get them on board? 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's where this gets very, very difficult. 157 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: That's where the job a speaker almost becomes impossible. 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: Agreed internally, they call them the majority makers, they call themselves. Look, 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: we wouldn't be in the majority without us, and the 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: other members are more conservative ones say well, you wouldn't 161 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: be here without us too, And so again, I thought 162 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: that Scott Perry and Byron Donald and Chip Roy were 163 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: doing the exact right thing. They are as conservative as 164 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: any member in there, and they crafted a bill that 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: they should have voted on and they should have supported. 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: I'm very disappointed that that didn't pass. Let us it 167 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: was just for a thirty day DR, a short term cr. Again, 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: drs are not the way to do business, but based 169 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: on where we are here today, I thought that was 170 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: the most responsible outcome. Unfortunately, Gates and some of the 171 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: others decided not to go down that pass, and I 172 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: think that was the wrong decision. 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: All right, Jason Chavits, thank you, my friend, appreciate your reaction. 174 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you want 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. All right, let's 176 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: say hi to John in South Carolina and Joe in Connecticut. John, 177 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: say hi, Did Joe? Joe say hi to John? 178 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, John, that's interesting, right. 179 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: I like you. 180 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: Hello, John and Joe. Are you there? You're on the air. Hey, Hello? 181 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: Hello? 182 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: All right, who's this John or Joe? 183 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 6: This is Joe. 184 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: Joe Say hi to John? John say hi to Joe. Hey, John, Hello, John, 185 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: say hi to Joe. 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 7: Hello, Joe. 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Very good. All right, We'll let Joe go first. He 188 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: is supporting Matt Gats in this go ahead. 189 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 6: Well, I'm supporting the American people. Sean, I'm doing backflips, 190 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 6: and I'm not. I'm surprised you or not, because we 191 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: just got rid of the Martin van Buren of Speakers 192 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 6: of the House. This guy was ineffective. He didn't do 193 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: anything he said he was going to do. He's apparently compromised. 194 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: And you know, you say, what do you mean these compromises? 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: You're missing my whole point here. 196 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I said, I agree in the substance with what Gates 197 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: is saying, but I'm also acknowledging something that is a reality. 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: They have a three or four vote margin depending on 199 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the day. And in that coalition you have people that 200 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: don't agree with us, and you've got to somehow, you know, 201 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: it's like hurting cats, and you've got to get these 202 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: people somehow have agreement. They're not in agreement on the 203 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: issues that you and I find and feel so passionately about. 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: And you can't govern if you don't get to an agreement, period. 205 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: You can't. 206 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 6: While I agree with you, I still going to tell 207 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 6: you that you're talking about the Republicans fighting each other 208 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 6: and not fighting the Democrats. But if you don't have 209 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 6: a general who can take you there, like, well. 210 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Hang on, I was quoting Donald Trump from earlier today. 211 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: That's Donald Trump who said that. 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: I understand and mister Trump has my support, but I 213 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: you know, he's playing a different game than we are. 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 6: Right now. I'm speaking freely because I'm not running for anything. 215 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm not running for anything either. 216 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: I listen everything that they were saying about the appropriations process, 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: I'm in full agreement with. 218 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: And do I want the vote on term limits? Yeah? 219 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: Balance budget? Yeah. 220 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: However, I can tell you right now neither one of 221 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: them are going anywhere. If they vote for them, it's 222 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: a good vote to have and that would hopefully, you know, 223 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: set up of the potential that when we have a 224 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: bigger majority and a majority in the Senate and a 225 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Republican in the White House, then it could become a reality. 226 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: None of those things would become a reality today. 227 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 6: No, and I agree with you. But let's send a 228 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 6: message of accountability of people if you be. 229 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and they should have. And these 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: are the mistakes McCarthy made. I've I've been very clear 231 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not speaking here as a special pleader 232 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: for McCarthy. I am saying that overall that we had 233 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: a really good we had really good options put forward 234 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: by the Freedom Caucus. 235 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: Do you not like the options? I've mentioned them in detail. 236 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 8: They're fine. 237 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 6: But again, I have more of an issue with a 238 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 6: guy who's a politician. At this point, you know, there's 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 6: so much at stake as we mutually agree, and you know, 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: we don't have time for this nonsense anymore. 241 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 9: It's getting show. 242 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So you tell me the guy that you're going 243 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: to elect that's going to be able to bring together 244 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the varying factions is agatest? 245 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: Who do you want? 246 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. 247 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 6: I look I like him, but of course, nobody's gonna 248 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 6: like him now because he's he's you know, he's the 249 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 6: bad boy because he. 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: No no, no, answer this question. You said you want 251 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: guys to get this job done. You tell me who's 252 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna get that job done with a four or three 253 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: vote majority. 254 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: Who that's a good question, Sean, I honestly don't. 255 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: I know. But that's the problem. 256 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm giving you the reality of it, and I'm taking 257 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: the emotion out of it. I agree with every single 258 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: thing you're saying. However, I'm also looking at a reality 259 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: that is just staring us in the face that we 260 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: don't want to look at. Let me bring in John 261 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: South Carolina. John your take. 262 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 7: Hey there, Sean, thank you for taking my call. Hey, So, 263 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 7: just like you've pointed out, you know, guys like Joe 264 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 7: just you know, and Matt Gates just don't have any answers, 265 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 7: but they just want to be roadblocks. I mean, we've got, 266 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 7: you know, you got these clowns that want to, you know, 267 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 7: shake shake things up, but they'd have no answers. I 268 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 7: liked your suggested strategy from the Freedom Caucus to put 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 7: together these appropriation bills and do the stop, you know, 270 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 7: do the cr for right now, but then over the 271 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 7: forty five days, put together actual legislation, throw it back 272 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 7: at the Senate like you had suggested before, had the 273 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 7: senators you know, rally, and then you throw it in 274 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 7: the plate in front of the Democrats and they have 275 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 7: to then deal with it and deal with the American 276 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 7: people on the fact that they can't, you know, legislate 277 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: over what has been put in front of them by 278 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 7: the Republicans. I just don't. I just don't get it. 279 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 7: And you know, as Trump has pointed out, why are 280 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 7: we infighting? It's just it doesn't make any sense, you know. 281 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: And that's my only point in Joe, I want to 282 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: be clear here. I understand where you're coming from. Because 283 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: the things that you say you want, I want. I 284 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: agree with you. However, achieving them is a whole different ballgame. 285 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: When you have a bunch of moderate Republicans and districts 286 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden want. 287 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 288 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. And you know, just one thing that John said, 289 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 6: enough with the continuing resolutions. It's not like this is 290 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 6: some kind of surprise that the Congress doesn't know what's 291 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 6: coming up. That's a bunch of bs. They should have 292 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: been dealing with this all along. So just kicking the 293 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: can down the road has become the modus. And that's 294 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: what they all do all the time, and they'll continue 295 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 6: to do it. They will never be a solid deal. 296 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate it. Eight hundred and nine point one, 297 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Shawn is a number if you want to be a 298 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: part of the program. All right, let's go straight to 299 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: the phones, because you know what, we've talked a lot here. 300 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Let's say hi to Vinnie massive Peaqua, Long Island A Vinnie, 301 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: how are you. 302 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 9: Hey, Sueing, I'm fine. I'm not too sure that I 303 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 9: that this is all that bad? Is everybody's coming down 304 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 9: on gates because the only way we're gonna end up 305 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 9: getting a Democrats speaker is if Rhinos vote with the 306 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 9: Democrats to get the Democrats speaker. 307 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Let me just ask you a question to stop you 308 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: right there, the cr of the past. How did that happen? 309 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: Did Republicans join with Democrats? 310 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 9: I guess they did? 311 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: There you go, okay, So that's a very big risk 312 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: when you have such a tight margin, right yeah. 313 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 9: However, though, to know the people who would have made 314 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 9: such an overthrow to vote with the Democrats it's kind 315 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 9: of important. I mean, the negative things are being said 316 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 9: about Gates kind of remind me about how everybody attacks Trump, like, oh, 317 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 9: he's a demogogue, always ad this, always an egotistical, always. 318 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: That I'm not attacking Gates. 319 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: I actually think on the merits of a lot of 320 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: his arguments, he was accurate, and on certain votes they 321 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen. The appropriations process didn't go through normal procedure, 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: which was part of their agreement. So I can't criticize 323 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: him for saying that he wants to home McCarthy accountable. 324 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: The balanced budget amendment, the term limits vote. You know, 325 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: those are less significant to me because they can happen 326 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: at any time. Then I do believe they would have happened. However, 327 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have become law. It would have just been symbolic. 328 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to be realistic as well. But to me, 329 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: the better play, the more strategic tactical play. I would 330 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: have gone along with the Freedom Caucus guys, and I 331 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: would have passed the cr the cut spending dramatically discretionary spending, 332 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: but kept funding the military, veterans and the Department of 333 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: Homeland Security. I would have insisted on HR two, the 334 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: bill that would secure the border, and that would have 335 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: been the bridge I think to get to the Appropriate 336 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: Creations bill. That would have satisfied the biggest complaint that 337 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: conservatives had that hey, wait a minute, this is we 338 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: decided not to do it this way, and it would 339 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: have gotten us to the endgame. Now you know, now 340 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: everything's in flux, and you might be right this this 341 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: has the potential that end up landing. 342 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: Fine, I have no idea. 343 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I'm not sitting here 344 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: wringing my hands worried about you know, what happened here today. However, 345 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: it has also the potential of imploding in their faces. 346 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: And you know it's going to be up to them. 347 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: But you're dealing with such varying, you know, political viewpoints 348 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: within the Republican caucus. 349 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: None of this is easy. You understand that, Yeah, I understand. 350 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 9: I got your point. It was mainly the extreme, extreme 351 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 9: negativism that other people are saying about these six guys. 352 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 9: It makes me a little bit unsettled. You know, it 353 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 9: could land or write. What you were saying was good. Yeah, 354 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 9: it could have been a better way, more strategic. It's 355 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 9: just this, I'm really leery about how horribly he's being 356 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 9: characterized right now. 357 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: So thanks for I'm not really paying attention to that noise. 358 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Matt Gates, I've known him a long time. He's gonna 359 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: do what he's gonna do. I would have done. I 360 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: would have I would have joined with Byron Donald's, Scott 361 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Perry and Chip Roy. 362 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: Now you're talking about three of the most. 363 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Conservative members in the House, and I thought they had 364 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: a bridge that I thought was viable. That would also 365 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: have put the onus on the Senate, which is where 366 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I would rather the pressure point be, not on the House. 367 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Does that make sense. 368 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 9: Yes, that's a definite fair point, and I won't. 369 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: It's just a tactical difference, strategic difference. How this may 370 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: play out to be perfectly fine in the end and 371 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: no harm, no foul. I don't know. However, it may 372 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: turn out to be a disaster. I think a lot 373 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: of I think that time will tell. I would have 374 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: gone along with Chip and Byron and Scott Perry. 375 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: That's what I would have done. Anyway. 376 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call, buddy, Thank you, John North Carolina. Hey John, 377 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: how are. 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 10: You, hey, buddy? 379 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: How are you doing? Good man? What's going on? 380 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 10: Hey, look, I think there are a couple of things 381 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 10: in play number one. McCarthy took the speakership with very 382 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 10: with a lot of restrictions or a lot of stipulations. 383 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 10: He needed to do certain things, certain things he didn't do, 384 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 10: so they did hold him accountable. And like it or not, 385 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 10: Matt Gates and the people who are in fighting, so 386 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 10: to speak, they have their constituents that hold them accountable. 387 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 10: I think that this whole thing has it's it's not 388 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 10: done the right way. Like you said, I think that they, 389 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 10: like Jason Safert said that they don't have an end game, 390 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 10: and if you are going to make a move, you 391 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 10: need to have a next movie. So I chess, you 392 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 10: move your pieces accordingly, and you need to have two 393 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 10: or three plays down down the line. And if you're 394 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 10: not doing that, you're going to screw up. 395 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Listen, I will from my perspective, that's that's a very 396 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: important point you're making. 397 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: If we had an endgame. They don't even have a name. 398 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: I was watching Matt in one of the breaks and 399 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: he's given a press conference and they're asking, Okay, who's 400 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: going to replace Kevin and he said, well, maybe Steve 401 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: Scaliseid sports Scalise. I don't think Scalise medically is going 402 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: to be up to that. I like Steve Scalise a lot. 403 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: And they don't have a consensus candidate. And then here's 404 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: the other problem is and this is something that is inevitable. 405 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: And I'm just giving you the reality of what we're 406 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: facing is not everybody in this Republican caucus is conservative. 407 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: They're just not, you know. 408 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: And you've got too many of these people, people in 409 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: New York California in particular, that are in districts that 410 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: voted for Joe Biden, and they're like, they're not gonna 411 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: be as conservative in their voting. Now you only have 412 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: a three or four four vote margin, depending on the day. 413 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: Now you've got to, you know. 414 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Cobble together a coalition that can bring everybody to the 415 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: table and get something done. By any definition, that becomes 416 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: a I'll tell you right now, I'm in the House 417 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: of Representatives today. 418 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: They say, Hannity, why don't you do it? Somebody like 419 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: drop dead? 420 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 10: Well, I get that too, But maybe this is where 421 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 10: Chipwoy or Byron Donald steps up and says, this is. 422 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't think I think both 423 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: of them would be great candidates. I think Scott Perry 424 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: would be a great candidate. I don't know if anybody's 425 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna want to do it, do. 426 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 10: You No, It's a really demanding job. And here's where 427 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 10: I think the Democrats do a little bit better. 428 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: A lot better. They they circle the wagons. We create 429 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: circular firing squads. 430 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 10: They will toe the party line, yep, not necessary their 431 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 10: constituents points of view. This is why you have Taulsa Gabbard, 432 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 10: you have Christen Cinema. You have different people Joe Manchin 433 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 10: who have really kind of left the Democratic Party, or 434 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 10: should I say the party has left them, and it's 435 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 10: because they are answering to their constituents. The Democrat Party 436 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 10: is more about towing whatever line that they have. The 437 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 10: Republicans seem to be like it or not, more focused 438 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 10: on their constituents. And like you said, this is a 439 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 10: big country. You have people from California who are more 440 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 10: left of center even though they call themselves Republicans, and 441 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 10: you have people from Texas and Florida who are going 442 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 10: to be very right of center and who are more 443 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 10: conservative Republicans. You have a lot of differences. 444 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: List turn out fine. I'm hoping that they can resolve 445 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: this quickly. I think the longer it goes on, the 446 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: worse they look. 447 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: That's my hope. 448 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: All right, John, appreciate it, Man, Lucas and Illinois disagrees 449 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: with both of us. What's up, Luke glad you called? 450 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: Well, not necessarily disagreeing with everybody, but thanks for having 451 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: me Sean, Like I kind of you know, this this 452 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: historic day to day and looking at everything, everyone's pointing 453 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: the finger, but really what it comes down to is 454 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: McCarthy's out, and we have to look forward to who 455 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 4: is going to be the next representative to the House. 456 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: And I think it's going to come down to a 457 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: whole bunch of narratives. And like you just mentioned, what's 458 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: the timing looking like, because I mean we go back 459 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: to January and it took weeks, So I mean, what 460 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: are we looking at here that that is? 461 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Look, I am not in this doom and gloom and 462 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: Republicans are doomed stage where everybody else is. However, and 463 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names. I was warning people 464 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: in July and August that they needed to get ahead 465 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: of this, and that's all I'm gonna say. And I 466 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: was taught as I talked to my sources regularly. I 467 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: was telling people, you guys better get your act together. 468 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: The last time you did, the last budget deal you 469 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: did did not go over well. I said, you guys 470 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: better get ahead of it. Get ahead of it, get 471 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: ahead of it. But you know, nobody listens to me, Luke. 472 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Why why would they listen to a dopey talk show host? 473 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: Right? 474 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: I know I can't. I can't get it either, But 475 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: I think the word of the day is a mess 476 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: in Washington. I think that's what the word of the 477 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: day is. 478 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: Thanks, Luke, Let's see what happens. It's not. 479 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: It's not doom and gloom yet it could. It could 480 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: turn into a complete Adam Schiff show. I hope not. 481 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Stephanie North Carolina High, Hi, thank you, yes, ma'am, glad 482 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: you called. 483 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 5: I'm so happy. I'm so happy he's out. 484 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: Okay, who would you like one? I mean, I mean 485 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people are happy. I understand that. Yeah, 486 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm so tell me, so tell me who you. 487 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: Think could could bring together these varying coalitions and actually 488 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: do better? 489 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: Tell me who I will. 490 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: I will name a ton of people, but they just 491 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: need to decide that they're going to stand up for 492 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: the American people. 493 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna push you. Name them, 494 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: tell me who Dan Now they could be a great choice, 495 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: and Jim Jordan's not going to do it in a 496 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: million years. 497 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: Chip Roy mac As, Marjorie Taylor Green, I want a fighter. 498 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 5: I want the gloves off right now. 499 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Now here's my next tougher question. And by the way, 500 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: there's not one person on your list that I don't like. 501 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at anybody today. I'm just saying, here's 502 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the reality. How do you deal with the moderate wing 503 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party that won't go along with with 504 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: the things that you and I would want done. How 505 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: do you handle that part? That's the tough part to go. 506 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: They need to Okay, they need to. 507 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Go, but right there, but they're not going anywhere until 508 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: next November. 509 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: We're stuck with them. 510 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: And if we're not getting if we don't and if 511 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: they don't govern properly, none of them are going to 512 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: be in the majority, which they better be aware of 513 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: that too. The American people decide that this is nothing 514 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: but chaos and a complete shift show, They're going to 515 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: vote a lot of them out we're tired. 516 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: We've had it. 517 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: You're tired, but you can't do anything if you don't 518 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: have power and you don't win. 519 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 5: Well, people need to step up and start doing what 520 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 5: Trump did. People need to start putting it out there. 521 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 5: If we played it safe, we would have never had 522 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 5: a revolution. We would have never had a revolution back 523 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: in seventeen seventy six. 524 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not talking about playing it safe. 525 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: I want all the things that we've all been talking 526 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: about today. There's not one thing that I don't want. 527 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: You know anyway, Appreciate you, Appreciate you being on the phone, Stephanie. 528 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: I will. 529 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Everybody needs to take a little 530 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: bit of a deep breath here. Jim in Illinois, Hey Jim, 531 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: how are. 532 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 11: You, Sean? 533 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: How you doing good? What's going on? 534 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 9: Hey? 535 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 11: Well, you know I can't help but not feel, you know, 536 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 11: a little bit hopeless. 537 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: But honest, don't don't let don't go there yet this, 538 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, Let's see how this plays out. Give it 539 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: a listen. If it takes a few days, it'll be fine. 540 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: If it takes weeks and months, then it's a disaster. 541 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: You there is. 542 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 11: What we need to do is what yes, Uh. What 543 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 11: we need to do is what Trump said. We need 544 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 11: to be going after the Democrats. This should not be 545 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 11: about infighting between us because our party is diluted. I mean, 546 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 11: we've been diluted for a long time. 547 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: We've got mit, right, Hang, I gotta put you on 548 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: hold here, Hang on one second. Nukingrich just finally got 549 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: out of a meeting, sir, How are you good? 550 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 8: How are you? 551 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: Uh? 552 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: From my perspective, I know there's a lot of angst, anxiety, panic. 553 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. However, they need to get act together. 554 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: But with a three or four vote majority, it's not easy. 555 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: You've been there with you know, when you're dealing with 556 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: all these varying factions and points of view in the House, 557 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: it's hard. 558 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 8: Sure, but look, you had four percent of the conference, 559 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 8: four percent side with all of the Democrats. Now that's suicidal. 560 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 8: I mean maybe because Gates hates McCarthy and maybe somebody 561 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 8: else can bring the eight of them back or whatever. 562 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 8: But if I were there, I don't, candidly, John, I 563 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 8: don't know what I'd do. I would regard these eight 564 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 8: people as traitors. I would think that what they just did. 565 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 8: I mean to say to two hundred and tent of 566 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 8: your colleagues. We don't care who you choose. The eight 567 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 8: of us are more important, and we are going to 568 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 8: side with your mortal opponents. I mean, are they going 569 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 8: to you know, make hackem the speaker m h. And 570 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 8: they don't have any strategy. These were eight people in 571 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 8: a suicide mission with no idea of the next step. 572 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: Mmm. I have no idea. And the longer this goes on, 573 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: the worse it looks to the country. 574 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I don't worry about that. I mean, we 575 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 8: will get through this at some point. We just got 576 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 8: some polling numbers back at the America's New Majority Project. 577 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 8: You know that I run, and you know we're up 578 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 8: by eight points on the generic ballot. Gallup just came 579 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 8: out and said that we were away ahead, not because 580 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 8: we're smart, but because Biden and Bidenism is so bad. 581 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 8: It's going be like Jimmy Carter. So, you know, as 582 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 8: a practical matter politically, I'm not too worried in the 583 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 8: short run. I worry in the long run. You know, 584 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 8: the answer is, if you want Republicans to govern, you 585 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 8: better get about thirty more seats in the House and 586 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 8: about six more seats in the Senate. 587 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. 588 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: You know the thing about today that is a little 589 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: frustrating to me, and I think you'd agree with me. 590 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: There's guys that I really like respect on the Freedom 591 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Caucus that really busted their ass behind the scenes and 592 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: gave two very viable continuing resolution options. Now, would it 593 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: have been optimal to pass the twelve appropriations bills as promised? 594 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been optimal. I'm in total complete agreement. 595 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: But when chip Roy, Scott Perry, Byron Nonnell say, Okay, 596 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have an eight percent cut across the board, 597 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: We're going to secure our border, take care of our 598 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Defense Department, and take care of our veterans, and we'll 599 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: give you the thirty days to come up with the 600 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: appropriations bills, which was the main criticism, that to me 601 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: was reasonable. 602 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: That was a solution. 603 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Another solution that they came up with was a thirty 604 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: percent cut and it would have included HR two that 605 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: was the Border security bill. I like that solution also, 606 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: rather than go in the nuclear option today. 607 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, two things. One, you're exactly right. I've been trying 608 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 8: to write a newsletter and just seven quite get my 609 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 8: head around it that you know they have I had 610 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 8: a moment there to win a great conservative victory. They 611 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 8: threw it away, and so they ended up with a 612 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 8: very mediocre continuing resolution. And the alternative was to quit 613 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 8: paying the soldiers and quit paying the border gut patrol, etc. 614 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 8: And if you are somebody on a limited income serving 615 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 8: your country, it's not a joke if that's what happens. 616 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 8: So the conservatives who voted no, because they have this 617 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 8: principle that they don't get exactly what they want, they 618 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 8: have the right to destroy everything, they guaranteed a worse 619 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 8: outcome when they in fact, you're right, they had an 620 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 8: opportunity to win a pretty big conservative victory if they 621 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 8: had just voted yes. And that's what concerns me. I mean, 622 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 8: whether it's Kevin McCarthy or somebody else, I want to 623 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 8: see how they're going to manage because the other side 624 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 8: of that is remembered. This majority is a majority only 625 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 8: because we have fifteen members from seats that Joe Biden carried. 626 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: That's a big and I'm trying to explain that to people. 627 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: That is a reality that when you have a tiny, 628 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: tiny coalition majority which is three to four seats. I mean, 629 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: this reminds me a lot of you know, any parliamentary system, 630 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: a government which is like this is akin to a 631 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: no confidence vote. And my question is who is going 632 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: to be able to bring together that all the varying 633 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: factions the I'm the conservative faction, you're the conservative faction, 634 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: we're Freedom Caucus supporters, right, okay, But then you got 635 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: the Tuesday Group, the Study Group. Then you've got these 636 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: moderate Republicans from California and New York and they're in 637 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: districts that Joe Biden won. 638 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: That's a problem for them. 639 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: So they're looking out for themselves in their future also 640 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: and their elections. 641 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 8: Right, and then it's very hard to get across the 642 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 8: people who come from a district that's, you know, sixty 643 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 8: or seventy percent Republican. I have no idea what the 644 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 8: counter pressures are, but you know we did. People forget this. 645 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 8: In nineteen ninety six, the labor unions decided to go 646 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 8: for an increase in the minimum wage, and they made 647 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 8: it a huge, huge issue, and we had twenty three 648 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 8: districts in which we could lose members if we didn't 649 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 8: have a vote. Right, Army got up and there was 650 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 8: one of the great acts of leadership. Got up at 651 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 8: the conference and said, I'm an economics professor. I ran 652 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 8: to oppose the minimum wage. It is a terribly destructive thing. 653 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 8: And I want you to know that as the Congress 654 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 8: room from Dallas, I am going to speak against and 655 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 8: oppose the minimum wage measure, which is the majority leader, 656 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 8: I am going to schedule. Because he understood if we 657 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 8: didn't do that, we weren't going to be a majority. 658 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 8: And no, no majority have been re elected since nineteen 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 8: twenty eight, and we were determined to break that. And 660 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 8: we did. We became the first Republican Readerletory. 661 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: By the way, you're also the last speaker to balance 662 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: the budget. By the way, you. 663 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Don't need a a member of Congress to be the speaker. 664 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: Do you mind going back to work. 665 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 8: No, it's impossible. You have somebody who lives it and 666 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 8: breathes it and works it every day and knows every number. 667 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: Well, I could encourage you behind the scenes. I'll bring 668 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: you coffee and you know, take. 669 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 10: Care of you. 670 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 8: Very hard business. 671 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: It's no, it's brutal. 672 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: Listen, you did the work, you accomplished in five years, 673 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: and then they wanted to throw you out, I mean, 674 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and you did a finale. You were the best speaker 675 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: in our lifetime. Brought Republicans to power for the first 676 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: time in forty years. 677 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: You're right about that, all right? 678 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Speaker to Gingrich, thank you got to take Well, we're done. 679 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: We have a great Hannity nine Eastern Tonight Box News 680 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: set you DVR see you tomorrow. Thanks for being with us, 681 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for making the show possible.