Speaker 1: Check it out, man, Now down, now, let us talk
Speaker 1: NFL once a game. You do this in some form.
Speaker 1: This gentleman has been kind enough to join me either
Speaker 1: on a podcast or on the radio show for eight
Speaker 1: years in a row. Now I think at this time
Speaker 1: of year and I cannot think him enough. And I
Speaker 1: bet you when I said eight years, he's like, no,
Speaker 1: it can't be eight years, ladies and gentlemen, the creator
Speaker 1: a Football Outsiders dot com and a real pioneer in
Speaker 1: pro football analytics, maybe the pioneer quite frankly, it's our
Speaker 1: buddy Aaron Shots, good morning eron eight years. No, it
Speaker 1: can't be there it is. It's like I fed you
Speaker 1: that line. Yes it is. It's eight years Aaron. Aaron Shots,
Speaker 1: who also works for ESPN. We should note at FO
Speaker 1: underscore A Shots, that's s C H A t Z.
Speaker 1: Aaron will get to the four games this weekend. But
Speaker 1: you know what I have to ask you first, you
Speaker 1: at Football Outsiders, you've been going back in history and
Speaker 1: you sort of got uh, I don't want to say stalled,
Speaker 1: but you know you slowed down when you got to
Speaker 1: six and then into but you have completed up until
Speaker 1: now the skins of ninety one were number one all
Speaker 1: time through d v o A. The two thousand seven
Speaker 1: Patriots were second. Did the Bears eclipse them both? The
Speaker 1: answer is no, for the regular season and for the playoff.
Speaker 1: If you include playoffs, they do eclipse to two thousand
Speaker 1: seven Patriots. But we still have your Redskins as our
Speaker 1: number one team of all time and including the playoffs. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know why this makes me so happier, but
Speaker 1: it does. Your your numbers validates it obviously. Look, this
Speaker 1: is only one way to measure There are multi you know,
Speaker 1: there's lots of different statistical methods to measure the past,
Speaker 1: and but this is the first time anybody has gone
Speaker 1: back and actually analyzed down to the play by play
Speaker 1: level for years from the eighties and nineties. So we
Speaker 1: do have You know, if you if you want to
Speaker 1: declare that the playoffs are twice as important as the
Speaker 1: regular season, then the Bears would slightly pass the Redskins.
Speaker 1: What we when I say with the playoffs included, I'm
Speaker 1: including the playoffs with each playoff game with the same
Speaker 1: importance as the regular season. And and don't forget, as
Speaker 1: dominant as the Bears were in the playoffs, the Redskins. Also,
Speaker 1: we're really good in the pale playoffs. I mean in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they were up thirty one to ten
Speaker 1: before the middle scored two touchdowns and you know what
Speaker 1: was essentially garbage time, and they won the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: by forty one to ten. So you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: quite as dominant as the as the Bears and eighty five,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty darn good. I attended both of those,
Speaker 1: and you're right, ten against the Lions and then it
Speaker 1: was twenty four to nothing, I believe. Also in that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Kurt Gouveia picked off a pass pick six
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the second half and it was
Speaker 1: pretty much Katie Barr the door. But this is so
Speaker 1: rideful for me because you know, in this I'll speak
Speaker 1: for Redskin fans and we'll get off this. But the
Speaker 1: Redskins are akin to me. And I've said this before
Speaker 1: on the podcast and on the show, on the radio show,
Speaker 1: they're akin to the San Antonio Spurs in the sense
Speaker 1: that when people talk about basketball, the Lakers are the
Speaker 1: shiny object, or the Chicago Bulls or the shiny object.
Speaker 1: But the Spurs had this excellence over a long period
Speaker 1: of time, and they just sort of crept up every
Speaker 1: few years and people just took it for granted. And
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins also with with players who didn't
Speaker 1: really seek out attention in the press, right Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: was arn't, Monk didn't, didn't hate the press, just didn't
Speaker 1: really want to get interviewed. They're kind of that. And
Speaker 1: so I don't want that team to ever get lost
Speaker 1: in history, and thank God for you, Aaron, you make
Speaker 1: sure it hasn't. Yeah, they were not the media stars
Speaker 1: that Bears were, certainly. And the other thing is, um,
Speaker 1: you don't have the same sort of they built that team.
Speaker 1: Eighty four the defense was really good. Six the defense
Speaker 1: was really good. Um, you know, the it's sort of
Speaker 1: the red The Redskins came more out of nowhere sort of. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they had a lot of ten win seasons,
Speaker 1: but you know the quarterback kept changing, right you know
Speaker 1: Gibbs his one won three Super Bowls with three different uh,
Speaker 1: with three different quarterbacks. So you don't have to say
Speaker 1: they didn't have the same like where you know, the
Speaker 1: core was as well known and then and then they
Speaker 1: weren't as media friendly. So um, you know, as one.
Speaker 1: As as as much as they had a lot of keen
Speaker 1: win seasons, it was it was they were just ten
Speaker 1: win seasons. Like the two seasons before were ten and six,
Speaker 1: the one before that was seven and nine. So you
Speaker 1: don't have the same sort of build and hype that
Speaker 1: the Bears had, right, I mean, the eight five Bears
Speaker 1: recorded Super Bowl Shuffle during the season, nothing said they
Speaker 1: were actually gonna win the super Bowl right during. They
Speaker 1: could have been like the two thousand seven Patriots and
Speaker 1: blown the Super Bowl and then they'd be like, what
Speaker 1: did we record this for? By the way, all of
Speaker 1: this through the prism of Aaron's stat over their Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders d v O A defense adjusted value over average,
Speaker 1: which calculates the team's record excuse me, a team success
Speaker 1: rather based on the down a distance of each play
Speaker 1: during the season, and calculates how much more or less
Speaker 1: successful each team is compared to the league average. That's
Speaker 1: a short hack explanation of it, uh burying the headline,
Speaker 1: though perhaps I am as we moved to because on
Speaker 1: that list of the greatest teams of all time through
Speaker 1: d v o A, at number seven erin sits, the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens do tell yes, for the regular season, you know,
Speaker 1: not including the playoffs since they haven't played in the
Speaker 1: playoffs yet. But yes, the the Baltimore Ravens are are
Speaker 1: number seven regular season team of all time, and that
Speaker 1: is I don't think people realize just what a sugarnaut
Speaker 1: this Ravens team is. And and uh, like the Bears
Speaker 1: of eighty five and the Redskins of ninety one, like
Speaker 1: you have to be in order to be one of
Speaker 1: the best teams at all time. They were a really
Speaker 1: well rounded team. They were number one on offense, number
Speaker 1: four on defense, and number ten in special teams basically
Speaker 1: because they had one bad game. Without Week fifteen, they'd
Speaker 1: be like number for three and special teams. So they
Speaker 1: were just really good all around. And they're they're going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs as a really dominant team. And are
Speaker 1: our simulations they win the Super Bowl forty four percent
Speaker 1: at the time. Percent of the time, I would assume
Speaker 1: San Francisco would be the next highest percentage. Um we
Speaker 1: have the San Francisco at Kansas City essentially tied fourteen
Speaker 1: point two. Oh interesting, but all the way down to
Speaker 1: fourteen point two from yeah, that's a big it's a
Speaker 1: big we really just have Baltimore's dominant. Because also, if
Speaker 1: you look at Baltimore they've played, they're they're bad games
Speaker 1: were so early in the season that if you look
Speaker 1: at how they've played for the last ten weeks, they've
Speaker 1: had a d v o A in their single games
Speaker 1: of over for ten straight weeks. Well, the only other
Speaker 1: team that had over for the entire year was Kansas
Speaker 1: City at thirty point two. So essentially Baltimore every one
Speaker 1: of their last ten games has been better than every
Speaker 1: other team has been for the whole season. Wow, you're
Speaker 1: really there's no there's no in the like, they haven't
Speaker 1: had any off games. The close games have been against
Speaker 1: good opponents, so once you adjust for their opponent, they're
Speaker 1: playing very well in all of their games. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't hugely disagree with that, but I'm sure there
Speaker 1: are people listening her ALA who are pretty surprised by
Speaker 1: that gap. That's that's pretty starr um. So Baltimore is
Speaker 1: the number seventeen. Ravens are the number seven team all
Speaker 1: time through d v o A, through the lens of
Speaker 1: d v o A. Were there any other superlatives, let's
Speaker 1: call it top twenty is stuff either to the bad
Speaker 1: or to the good. Let's be very interesting to hear
Speaker 1: to the bad also per unit or overall. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the Patriots were sitting among our top ever defenses for
Speaker 1: most of the year and then had their worst game
Speaker 1: of the season in Week seventeen against Miami. Absolutely felt
Speaker 1: fat on their faces and as a result fell out
Speaker 1: of our top ten. So the twenty nineteen Patriots defense
Speaker 1: comes out as our number sixteen defense of all time. Interesting. Interesting,
Speaker 1: So that and it were not for that Miami game,
Speaker 1: they're a top ten team easily. If it's not for
Speaker 1: that Miami game, they're a top ten defense defense of
Speaker 1: all time. Were there any just yeah, go ahead, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the Tampa Bay box, which nobody thought about. But
Speaker 1: their past defense was mediocre, but their run defense was spectantular,
Speaker 1: and they come out as our number six best run
Speaker 1: defense ever, number six best run defense ever the bucks
Speaker 1: of this year. I don't think there's a single person
Speaker 1: listening who would have guessed that. Wow. If you, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you had Christian McCaffrey for Alvin Kamara, you know,
Speaker 1: they had really bad games. That's Tampa Bay compared to
Speaker 1: the rest of their season. Yeah, and and It's also
Speaker 1: why fantasy you know, pundits loved every Buccaneers game. It's
Speaker 1: why the overs had cashed so well for the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason because everybody was thrown on them,
Speaker 1: couldn't run on them, so everybody had to go to
Speaker 1: the right. And then there's the Jame effect. The opposite
Speaker 1: opposite was the Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Panthers were the
Speaker 1: fifth worst run defense we've ever measured, and Fantasy, if
Speaker 1: you liked over unders, you like the Carolina Panthers to
Speaker 1: the opposite reason, because you could go over on all
Speaker 1: the running backs and and Carolina would give up the yard.
Speaker 1: They sure would. Redskins had two one yard backs against them,
Speaker 1: I believe um over two hundred. I mean so many
Speaker 1: games where they were just getting crushed on defense um
Speaker 1: and so no overall to the bad Top twenty this year, Miami.
Speaker 1: Miami was our sixth uh sorry are our our sixth
Speaker 1: worst overall defense and our fourth worst past defense because
Speaker 1: even as Miami solved its offense and had an average
Speaker 1: offense over the second half of the year, their defense
Speaker 1: and their past defense in particular, continued to be bad
Speaker 1: over the second half of the year. I mean, other
Speaker 1: than that pick six, Brady played reasonably well in that
Speaker 1: week's seventeen game. The problem was that the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: shut down and the Miami offense played well. So the
Speaker 1: Miami defense was still bad for the whole year. So
Speaker 1: you said, sixth worst defense overall, fourth West, worst past
Speaker 1: defense overall. Yep. And yet they were all this talk
Speaker 1: about them drafting a quarterback like that's not going to help. Well,
Speaker 1: they need one in the long term. Their quarterback is
Speaker 1: forty years older. Yeah, but it seems like that's not
Speaker 1: I mean, based on what you just said. Good lord,
Speaker 1: we're there. You know they're missing the point. It seems
Speaker 1: like because they can. Yeah, but I the quarterback is
Speaker 1: still you built your team for the future, and that
Speaker 1: that team is about building for the future at this point.
Speaker 1: So that's still what they really need as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They you want to use a lot of their other
Speaker 1: draft picks on defense, that's okay with me, But they
Speaker 1: they they just they gave up a lot of passing yardage.
Speaker 1: Last thing on the season. Long how many of the
Speaker 1: twelve playoff teams did your numbers predict before the season
Speaker 1: started correctly? I think we were at seven this year,
Speaker 1: but Tennessee and Green Bay were like the first team
Speaker 1: predicted out in each conference. I see, so you got
Speaker 1: your very close to end up with seven. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: I lied one last one. And this is a is
Speaker 1: a two pronged what's the team that's under the radar
Speaker 1: that perhaps didn't make the playoffs, perhaps they didn't make
Speaker 1: the bus, but mostly likely didn't make the playoffs that
Speaker 1: the average fan is not really thinking about for futures
Speaker 1: bets into next year, that you think really under formed.
Speaker 1: And what's the team that is the most overperforming that's
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Well, I think that everybody knows about Dallas.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be hammering Dallas on future bets next year
Speaker 1: because anybody who's smart enough to bet on this stuff
Speaker 1: knows the offense is more consistent in defense, that they
Speaker 1: were really bad in close games, that they're gonna probably
Speaker 1: have a coaching change that that will help them with
Speaker 1: close games. Right. Dallas was sixth in our numbers despite
Speaker 1: being a eight. So that's the team that stands out
Speaker 1: for next year is being better than their win loss record.
Speaker 1: But the other one is the Rams. The Rams were
Speaker 1: twelve at nine and seven, right. I think there's some
Speaker 1: some people feel like the Rams fell apart, but if
Speaker 1: you look at their overall play, the Rams did not
Speaker 1: fully fall apart. Uh. The offense decline certainly more than expected.
Speaker 1: But I think the Rams are going to come back
Speaker 1: a little bit fixed. Here Cowboys and Rams. I think
Speaker 1: that makes sense to everybody. And then what's the most
Speaker 1: overachieving where you're like, man, this team probably shouldn't be
Speaker 1: the postseason Well, I mean we'll talk about when we
Speaker 1: talk about the postseason game. The lowest rated team the
Speaker 1: postseason teams for US is Houston. Okay, Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: portent of what's coming up. Right after the break, we'll
Speaker 1: continue and we'll talk about the four games specifically this weekend.
Speaker 1: Aaron Shots great stuff from football Outsiders at fo Underscore,
Speaker 1: A Shots, sc H A t Z. Keep it right
Speaker 1: here for more of a numbers game with Bil Alexander. Thursday,
Speaker 1: January nine, twenty It's the Beating of the Book podcast,
Speaker 1: the Megapod Division Round Gil Alexander along with the Staples.
Speaker 1: Michael Palm from Circus Sports. Good morning, Michael, good morning.
Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing very well, sir. Thank you
Speaker 1: for asking Todd wish Neev from the Showtime docuseries Action Todd,
Speaker 1: How you been man, Oh, it's just been a thrilling life, Gill,
Speaker 1: how about you? And good? But I will say this,
Speaker 1: We were supposed to have Michael Lombardi on the show today,
Speaker 1: Visa's own Michael Lombardi. He also does his own podcast
Speaker 1: called g M Shuffle. He's got his own book, Gridiron Genius.
Speaker 1: He writes for The Athletic. Michael does the podcast with
Speaker 1: ad Nan Verke, and ad Nan Verk had a death
Speaker 1: in the family and so they had to move their
Speaker 1: podcast to exactly what we're recording ours. So Michael will
Speaker 1: be with us next week and dutifully because we can
Speaker 1: always depend on him, and we love having him on
Speaker 1: because he's really a regular here too. He's really part
Speaker 1: of the crew. It's my producer number five from Visa
Speaker 1: and he also has his own show at Visa. I
Speaker 1: Don't want to bury the headline Monday through Friday seven
Speaker 1: to nine Eastern, four to six Pacific called market Watch.
Speaker 1: It's the great Jeff Parls. Thank you for doing this, Jeff,
Speaker 1: of course, skill It's always an honor to be with
Speaker 1: you and Mike and Toddy, even though even though before
Speaker 1: before we started the record button, we sounded like Todd
Speaker 1: was recording from the service of the Sun. Yes we
Speaker 1: have we have him now. Todd shows nothing but respect
Speaker 1: for the show by making sure that he's moving around
Speaker 1: at all times during the show. So sometimes it sounds
Speaker 1: echo and sometimes but Todd is situated not in the
Speaker 1: kitchen now correct, Huh, Well, I respect the show incredibly
Speaker 1: due to the fact that I had just signed a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar contract with the Megapode, you know, at one
Speaker 1: point one million per year from doing this, so of
Speaker 1: course I have to respect it properly. You weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to release the details on that, but yes, Megapod mega
Speaker 1: year deal for Todd Wishnev Mike last week. It was
Speaker 1: silly of me not to have asked you. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you right now. Circus Sports, obviously week
Speaker 1: seventeen ended, you had the results of your year long contest,
Speaker 1: of your quarter four. How did the initial Circus Sports
Speaker 1: million conclude, sir, Well, the the gentleman that was in
Speaker 1: the lead booty blockers, um, he maintained in the lead
Speaker 1: and held on to win. He really, uh, probably from
Speaker 1: the halfway point, was in first place. The key game
Speaker 1: came down to the Eagles and the Giants. He needed.
Speaker 1: He needed the Eagles in week seventeen. Um, the person
Speaker 1: that was in second needed the Giants. Once that result
Speaker 1: was in in the Eagles covered a four and a half,
Speaker 1: he was really home free. Um. His name is Isaac Meyer.
Speaker 1: He has a portfolio manager from Los Angeles. I believe
Speaker 1: Isaac Meyer wanted are you kidding me? Do you know
Speaker 1: Isaac Meyer? I know him? Yes, absolutely. Isaac Meyer came
Speaker 1: up to me. I'm sorry for interrupting you, Mike, but
Speaker 1: I'm just like astounded the the Isaac Meyer came up
Speaker 1: to me early in the football season when he had
Speaker 1: heard me, or might have been I think it might
Speaker 1: have even been baseball. Um, when he heard me on
Speaker 1: Gills Show and obviously saw the showtime thing. And we
Speaker 1: had a whole long conversation in the in the sports
Speaker 1: book one day, and he messaged messages me on Twitter
Speaker 1: all the time or you know, once in a while,
Speaker 1: And uh, I can't believe that that's the guy who wanted. Wow.
Speaker 1: He's thirty four, Gil, He's a portfolio manager from l A.
Speaker 1: He's actually arriving in Vegas. This morning, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on m on Visa and with Derek and maybe myself
Speaker 1: this afternoon on My Guys at three oh five. Then
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning at ten am at the Golden Gate Circus Boards,
Speaker 1: We're going to have a ceremony that will be taped.
Speaker 1: Much like at the Masters. I'll play the role of
Speaker 1: Jim nance Um Derek, Derek will play the club president,
Speaker 1: Jeff Benson will play the low amateur score uh and
Speaker 1: Isaac Meyer at that time and this ceremony will receive
Speaker 1: his blue jacket and his million dollars um. So very
Speaker 1: similar to the Masters, other than the fact that a
Speaker 1: jew will be allowed there is there really a blue
Speaker 1: jacket involved. Yeah, everybody had to put their jackets sizes down,
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, he's one regular. We had Derek's Taylor
Speaker 1: make the jacket for him. So this will be the
Speaker 1: first ceremony. Isaac Meyer from l A thirty four years old,
Speaker 1: the first the inaugural winner of the Circuits Sports million
Speaker 1: million dollar grand prize. What was his percentage his final
Speaker 1: percentage do you remember? Well, he got fifty eight and
Speaker 1: a half right out of what possible eighty five. Todd
Speaker 1: is very good at math and charismatic. He can do
Speaker 1: the he can do the percentage there fifty eight point
Speaker 1: five divided by sixty eight point eight. Pretty damn good,
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good? And who won the fourth quarter? Just
Speaker 1: to be thorough, Yeah, fourth quarter was for the third
Speaker 1: out of four quarters a single winner, Gill, which is
Speaker 1: really surprising. Again, um the name tall and nasty. Uh
Speaker 1: is a gentleman. I if from the detail I got
Speaker 1: was from Montana. And he actually finished with the best quarterlies. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess it's what was waited by the five weeks, right,
Speaker 1: But he finished with twenty and a half points for
Speaker 1: when the fourth quarter the hundred and forty two dollars? Nice?
Speaker 1: And now how do you feel about the west Gate
Speaker 1: doing quarterlies next year? Mike? Well, the two changes I
Speaker 1: wish they would have made, which is the rake percentage
Speaker 1: and all the free entries they give up dates. They
Speaker 1: stood pat with that and they copied everything else side
Speaker 1: of circle. Obviously, they're going to quarterly winners, three winners
Speaker 1: each quarter. They're going to a later time to submit
Speaker 1: entries on Saturday. They're going to three entries instead of too.
Speaker 1: So when when I heard the news last Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: I thought it was sort of akin to McDonald's announcing
Speaker 1: they were dumping the Big Mac and gonna serve whoppers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that answer would be similar to that. People
Speaker 1: can read in between the lines there if they want.
Speaker 1: All right, well, congratulations on your first year. Man, it
Speaker 1: was nothing but a success. You guys were pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: You did everything right from the way you you started
Speaker 1: and sort of began Circus Sports, the way you instituted
Speaker 1: the contest, all the rules that contests, and you guys
Speaker 1: have been such a shot in the arm for Las
Speaker 1: Vegas sports betting in general, even beyond that contest. So seriously, man,
Speaker 1: you and Derek deserve a big congratulation. Derek deserves a
Speaker 1: lot of credit, and then we deserve credit for hiring
Speaker 1: a really good team. Um obviously met Metcalf, Chris Bennett,
Speaker 1: Matt Linderman and the other risk managers there that I
Speaker 1: think they've done an outstanding job. What we expected from
Speaker 1: the first six months of the sports book or seven
Speaker 1: months from June one till now, it's really exceeded our
Speaker 1: expectations the reality of it, and I think we've made
Speaker 1: a lot of right moves. It's still a big learning
Speaker 1: curve your first year. UM. As far as contests go,
Speaker 1: we're looking to either right at the end of this
Speaker 1: month or early in February, announced what our contest or
Speaker 1: contests will be for football next year and be ready
Speaker 1: to start taking entries the first week of March. Awesome
Speaker 1: because people who listen to this podcast and did not
Speaker 1: get a chance to enter this past year have all
Speaker 1: the information and they'll be able to make their decision
Speaker 1: for next year. So hopefully it will be a nice
Speaker 1: spike not only from this show but just in general
Speaker 1: for your next contest. Todd, and as you call met
Speaker 1: Captain Lindeman, what do you call him? Jesus and the
Speaker 1: other guy? I thought it was Jesus and God? Oh yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're right Jesus and God my fault. Yes,
Speaker 1: who run the sports book over there at at Circus
Speaker 1: Sports And of course the Big Grand Open schedule for
Speaker 1: December for the new Shangri Law Sports book at the
Speaker 1: New Circle. Okay, let's begin Division Round two games on Saturday,
Speaker 1: two games on Sunday, unlike last week when the NFC
Speaker 1: was on Sunday and the a f C preceded that
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Back to back games in both conferences. This
Speaker 1: is more traditional now for the division round, where the
Speaker 1: NFC games are the book ends, the a f C
Speaker 1: games are in between. Saturday games start a little later
Speaker 1: four thirty five pm Eastern one thirty five Pacific, Minnesota
Speaker 1: at San Francisco. The Vikings the sixth seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Now we'll play the one seed by virtue of their
Speaker 1: win at New Orleans over the New Orleans Saints, a
Speaker 1: game that was for me just completely. What I will
Speaker 1: take away from was Sean Payton's horrific time management gaffs
Speaker 1: at the end of both halves and of the first half.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and the Saints rushed to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage to get a playoff before the two minute warning,
Speaker 1: when they should have just milked it and taking their time. Instead,
Speaker 1: Breeze throws a pick which is returned thirty yards. The
Speaker 1: Vikings end up scoring a touchdown. They take the lead
Speaker 1: into the locker room, and Will Let's misses a field
Speaker 1: goal at the end of the half. End of regulation,
Speaker 1: the Vikings have the ball just under three minutes left
Speaker 1: in the game. The Saints have used both of their
Speaker 1: first two time outs. They get a sack from camera
Speaker 1: in Jordan's after two other plays for a loss, and
Speaker 1: the Saints elect not to use their final time out.
Speaker 1: The Vikings are able to run more than a minute
Speaker 1: excuse me, fifty nine seconds to be precise, off the clock.
Speaker 1: Saints end up then getting the ball back with less
Speaker 1: than two minutes left. They do matriculate down the field
Speaker 1: and eventually get the game tying field goal, but it's
Speaker 1: a will Lets corkscrew job, and the Saints never end
Speaker 1: up using their third time out even had a chance
Speaker 1: to use it instead of taking a ten second run
Speaker 1: off on a false start, so they basically at best
Speaker 1: tie the game, which is what they ended up doing,
Speaker 1: and of course they lose in overtime on the Cousins
Speaker 1: to Kyle Rudolph four yard touchdown pass, which does not
Speaker 1: really get reviewed, even though al Rivern said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we looked at it. It It was fine. And that's to
Speaker 1: me what I'll only remember from that game. Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: though congratulations to him, never had a playoff win before
Speaker 1: he made the throws when he needed to. Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: called that forty three yard or to Adam Feeling the
Speaker 1: best pass of Kirk Cousin's career, which set up the
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown. San Francisco now favored by seven points
Speaker 1: in this game. The total is forty four. Parlay. We
Speaker 1: start with you, sir, all right, So this is this
Speaker 1: is the toughest game on the board for me because
Speaker 1: I can see about seven different things occurring in this game. Uh,
Speaker 1: the most likely thing that I see occurring in this game, Gil,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick a side. I'll go over
Speaker 1: the total here. Uh, we're going with forty four and
Speaker 1: a half consensus is what I'm seeing right now. Really,
Speaker 1: New Orleans moved the ball whenever they wanted when Payson
Speaker 1: Hill was in there. San Francisco is running backs obviously,
Speaker 1: is a great collection of backs. I know their offensive
Speaker 1: line is banged up, but I feel like San Francisco
Speaker 1: will be able to move the ball. And if Minnesota's
Speaker 1: offensive line holds up, and this has been the case
Speaker 1: the whole year against the Niners, when the opposing offensive
Speaker 1: line is held up against that elite pass rush, the
Speaker 1: Niners have given up points. And I think Minnesota's offensive
Speaker 1: line obviously is not the greatest. We saw them turn
Speaker 1: Green Bay into the eighty five Bears in weeks sixteen
Speaker 1: on that Monday night. But now that the monkey is off,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins back. I have a feeling he's gonna play
Speaker 1: loose with no pressure in this game, and Minnesota is
Speaker 1: gonna hang around and there's gonna be points. And this
Speaker 1: is something in the area code of four UH with
Speaker 1: the Niners winning. But I don't feel comfortable up lay
Speaker 1: in the seven. So I'll go over the total UH
Speaker 1: in Niners in Minnesota and we'll give even better. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on the I have no play on the
Speaker 1: side pre flop for me, nothing, Michael palm Uh. I
Speaker 1: bet this at six and a half scal when the
Speaker 1: number opened, I laid the points here. I think this
Speaker 1: is a really tough spot for the n teams, having
Speaker 1: playing on six days rest and really losing two days
Speaker 1: to travel, having had to go to New Orleans to
Speaker 1: come back to fly to San Francisco, play Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: and in the early game on Saturday. You get a
Speaker 1: forty nine years team that's rested, healthy, had a lot
Speaker 1: of time to game plan here. And I'm not in
Speaker 1: love with Kirk Cousins on grass. Okay, we've seen his
Speaker 1: performances on grass through the years have not been great,
Speaker 1: especially on the road. Say, yes, they beat San Diego
Speaker 1: by thirty, but Sandygo what they turn it over seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine times and kept giving Minnesota the ball. They were
Speaker 1: defensive scores. I go back to the Bears game, which
Speaker 1: is probably a better comparison when they played in September
Speaker 1: UM on what they'll face in San Francisco. You know
Speaker 1: it's it'll be cool and it'll be windy in San
Speaker 1: Francisco as well. I think on paper the forty Niners
Speaker 1: on a neutral field are probably four and a half
Speaker 1: five points better, So I felt comfortable lane six and
Speaker 1: a half. I know the numbers moved to seven, but
Speaker 1: I still think that's a play with Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with Kirk Cousins on grass, after all,
Speaker 1: he played his entire Redskin career and put up a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of gaudy stats on grass in d C.
Speaker 1: But I do have doubts about his decision making late
Speaker 1: in games, although obviously we didn't see it at New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I'm not over that yet. But I also have issues
Speaker 1: with the Niners in that I love them. I still
Speaker 1: think they're going to the Super Bowl, but special teams
Speaker 1: plays a little shoddy sometimes. Kyle Shanahan, for as great
Speaker 1: as he has been, and I love Kyle Shanahan as
Speaker 1: a coach. He made r G three great in d C,
Speaker 1: but he makes some curious managerial decisions late in games also.
Speaker 1: And as Todd has often said, and maybe I'm seig
Speaker 1: going right to you on this, Todd, there's always that
Speaker 1: worry that Jimmy g is gonna do something wrong at
Speaker 1: some critical point. So I am just staying off this
Speaker 1: pre flop Dot. I'm gonna lean with Mike. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna bet this, but I lean San Francisco and uh.
Speaker 1: And here's why Minnesota all year was great at home
Speaker 1: and crappy on the road. It is Kirk Cousins. I
Speaker 1: don't trust Kirk Cousins. I know he played a good
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans, but come on, they were up
Speaker 1: twenty to ten and let the other team back in
Speaker 1: the game. It's not exactly like they you know, slaughtered
Speaker 1: New Orleans or anything. Um. San Francisco and any time
Speaker 1: can open up a giant cann of whoopass on somebody
Speaker 1: with their running game there, their kid all there. You know,
Speaker 1: they can blow people out they blew the Packers out
Speaker 1: at home. They blew some other teams out. It doesn't
Speaker 1: come to mind right away, but they blew other teams
Speaker 1: and uh out at home. Minnesota is, you know, a
Speaker 1: similar team to the Green Bay package. Why can't they
Speaker 1: were just go blow them out if they're playing well.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, as you said, there's a little
Speaker 1: nervousness about Jimmy. I don't think it's gonna show up here.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna show up in a in a
Speaker 1: bigger round than this. I leaned to San Francisco and uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna I'll probably in game this,
Speaker 1: but uh, San Francisco is aside for me, I just
Speaker 1: don't think Minnesota can do it. Two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: San Francisco weather fifty five degree high on Saturday for
Speaker 1: this U chance precipitation so barely at all, but seventeen
Speaker 1: mile per hour winds, which is interesting that that comes
Speaker 1: up on the weather report. As far as the weather
Speaker 1: for Baltimore, which is the next game on Saturday, UH
Speaker 1: should be let's see, I'm on the wrong day. Saturday,
Speaker 1: chance of rain should really be even warmer in Baltimore
Speaker 1: than it is in San Francisco, which for people who
Speaker 1: live in the Bay probably aren't very surprised by that,
Speaker 1: but should be high fifties in Baltimore, could be all
Speaker 1: excuse me by game time should be in the sixties
Speaker 1: U in Baltimore. So very good balmy weather in Baltimore
Speaker 1: for this one between the Titans and the Ravens. Eight
Speaker 1: fifteen pm. Start in charm City as they like to
Speaker 1: call it, by the way, sixty three degrees. According to
Speaker 1: this long range forecast, ten and a half point vivorites.
Speaker 1: Now let's call it ten point favorites, either nine and
Speaker 1: a half or ten point favorites in favor of the Ravens. Crackenburger.
Speaker 1: Bill Crackenburger and I were talking about this on a
Speaker 1: numbers game at Visa this morning on Sirius XM channel
Speaker 1: two O four. How a lot of books have the
Speaker 1: tens to prevent six and a half point teasers from
Speaker 1: getting to the three. But it's tens or nine or
Speaker 1: nine and a half totals forty six and a half
Speaker 1: forty seven. Tennessee. With that amazing win over the Patriots,
Speaker 1: biggest sequence, of course of that game was that goal
Speaker 1: line stand when the Patriots were up late in the
Speaker 1: first half. They were up ten to seven, first and
Speaker 1: goal at the one, two plays where they lost the
Speaker 1: yard and gained the yard, and then on third down.
Speaker 1: No sneak on any of those downs from Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who's calling card has always been the quarterback sneak. They
Speaker 1: lose three yards, they kick a field goal, Titan score
Speaker 1: before the end of the half, and they hold that
Speaker 1: score four really the whole way until the final seque
Speaker 1: of the game, when there was a pick six. Patriots
Speaker 1: ended up getting the ball subsequently there with nine seconds left.
Speaker 1: That's when the pick six happened. But Baltimore number one
Speaker 1: seed in the a f C against the low seat
Speaker 1: when the a f C in Tennessee, Baltimore with a
Speaker 1: ten point bulls or nine and a half, Mike, you
Speaker 1: got first crack at this. Yeah, I like this game over. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that Baltimore is gonna put up a lot
Speaker 1: of points here. Um. I don't think that this Tennessee defense,
Speaker 1: the defensive line, you know, the Patriot's head struggles running
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't think Baltimore will have these struggles. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I think that will open the game up
Speaker 1: for for Lamar, I get a little hesitant on lane
Speaker 1: close to ten in this spot because I just to
Speaker 1: Todd's point, you're up fourteen, you're up, you know you're
Speaker 1: up thirteen late, and that backdoor is always open. So
Speaker 1: I prefer to take this total over. I think the
Speaker 1: weather will be decent, and I think Baltimore will will
Speaker 1: score somewhere close to thirty points. Can anyone stop Derrick Henry?
Speaker 1: I guess is what this really comes down two for me?
Speaker 1: Todd your thoughts. I'm looking at Baltimore's defense, and I
Speaker 1: see I wasn't as impressed with Tennessee's win. Now, we all,
Speaker 1: we all won with that Tennessee thing, but that was
Speaker 1: more a bet against New England than a bet on Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I wasn't impressed with the fact that Tennessee couldn't score
Speaker 1: it all in the second half against New England, and
Speaker 1: that really Tannehill really kind of looked like Miami Tannehill
Speaker 1: in that game rather than new and improved Tannehill. But
Speaker 1: if you look at who he did it against, there
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of really big teams in there, and
Speaker 1: the one really good team they played, they got spanked
Speaker 1: by New Orleans after taking a big lead Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: If you look back over the last about ten to
Speaker 1: twelve weeks, the most points they've ever given up is
Speaker 1: twenty to New England when they won thirty seven twenty
Speaker 1: in a blowout. Other than that, it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: thirteen sixteen, seventeen, six, seven, ten, fifteen against teams similar
Speaker 1: to Tennessee. So I don't see Tennessee getting more than
Speaker 1: maybe seventeen to twenty points here, And so I leaned Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Actually in the game, I think Baltimore can easily get
Speaker 1: to thirty. You know, thirty one seventeen wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I I lean Baltimore. Again, I was
Speaker 1: not that impressed with Tennessee. I think it was more
Speaker 1: New England just didn't have the horses, and you know,
Speaker 1: they won because New England couldn't score. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not that impressed with Tennessee. Look when they played
Speaker 1: the Saints, one of the few really good teams they played,
Speaker 1: they were up big and just blew the whole game.
Speaker 1: So you know, why can't Baltimore get into the thirties
Speaker 1: on them? They should easily be able to I'll lean
Speaker 1: Baltimore and notice you've leaned to San Francisco, lean Baltimore,
Speaker 1: but not bets for you flop none. I'm probably I'll
Speaker 1: probably do some form of teasing with these games. I
Speaker 1: don't think, I don't think I'm going to pre flop
Speaker 1: bet them, but I'll definitely be, you know, probably looking
Speaker 1: for ways to either ten point tease seven points, finding
Speaker 1: some kind of tease, you know, combination. Because I like
Speaker 1: these two favorites. I'm the same way I loved a
Speaker 1: couple of games last week pre flop but did in
Speaker 1: Tennessee being one of them, even on the money line,
Speaker 1: as we discussed on this show. But I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I am not gravitating towards these games in terms of
Speaker 1: a T S pre flop the same way. But yes,
Speaker 1: teasers are definitely going to be in play. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that momentarily. And not to fixate on Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: but I brought this up on the on the radio side.
Speaker 1: Do you see that footage they had a Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: in high school. That was the most comical high school
Speaker 1: footage I have ever seen of anybody. It's like if
Speaker 1: the four of us ran out a pewee football team
Speaker 1: to playoffs, and then we had Todd just bowl all
Speaker 1: of them over. Like It's just it was just unbelievable
Speaker 1: to watch. And Dave Farren, Matt Brown and I we
Speaker 1: do a fantasy show on Sunday. We started to look
Speaker 1: up Derrick Henry stats. His senior year in high school,
Speaker 1: he had two different times where he had back to
Speaker 1: back games with six touchdowns. He had another game where
Speaker 1: he had like fifty seven carries for four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty some yards. Just ridiculous. But he has been better
Speaker 1: and better as the year progresses. He did the same
Speaker 1: thing last year. We will see if Baltimore can hold
Speaker 1: him in check. That'll go a long way towards determining
Speaker 1: this one. Jeff, I'm I agree with not betting this
Speaker 1: game preflop. This is a lean for me as well.
Speaker 1: And I'll go actually off of of what Todd said,
Speaker 1: and I'll go with the Titans getting the ten or
Speaker 1: the nine and a half, especially if it's the whole ten.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry didn't play against New Orleans. Uh. The Titans
Speaker 1: have beaten Kansas City during this stretch, when they've when
Speaker 1: when they've gotten when they had Tannehill, and they've gotten
Speaker 1: better and got in the playoffs. Granted that was such
Speaker 1: a wacko game and it was almost two months ago,
Speaker 1: but look, Tennessee's defense does not get enough credit. And
Speaker 1: I know New England is lacking weapons and it's a
Speaker 1: shell of what that offense has been through the years,
Speaker 1: but they still shut down the Patriots after that, After
Speaker 1: that goal line stand, the Patriots never threatened the store again.
Speaker 1: And at some point when it was kept hanging of
Speaker 1: fourteen thirteen, he's still in the back of your mind.
Speaker 1: It's like it's still Brady, It's still Bell and check.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are gonna find a way. And the Titans
Speaker 1: never even allowed them to even get close to field
Speaker 1: goal range to take the lead at the end of
Speaker 1: that game. And the one thing I keep coming back to,
Speaker 1: the Ravens have not played a bad game since Week four.
Speaker 1: At some point a conquer has to show up or
Speaker 1: the Ravens are, like Aaron Shot said on a Numbers
Speaker 1: game last week, Gil or the Ravens are legitimately a
Speaker 1: top seven team in the history of the NFL. They
Speaker 1: don't have a clunker. So at some point something's gonna
Speaker 1: Something's gotta give either Baltimore is a legitimate top ten
Speaker 1: team of all time or they're gonna have a conquer
Speaker 1: and Tennessee is is an uneasy matchup because of the
Speaker 1: way they run the ball and the way they played defense.
Speaker 1: This feels like a one score game, so it's an
Speaker 1: easy It would be a take of the nine and
Speaker 1: a half or ten with Tennessee for me. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I hope people listen to the first part of this
Speaker 1: podcast because I threw on the Arran Shot segment where
Speaker 1: he does by his rankings again from Football Outsiders, which
Speaker 1: go all the way back through five season. He's got
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens as far as regular seasons are concerned,
Speaker 1: as the seventh greatest team in the last thirty four
Speaker 1: years or thirty five years of the National Football League.
Speaker 1: As far as Sunday Yes, please, can I can I
Speaker 1: say something? He also said, I I like Aaron Shots.
Speaker 1: I like models. He also earlier in the season has
Speaker 1: New England as I think the best defense or second
Speaker 1: best defense of all time. I mean, can we just
Speaker 1: slow our role a little bit? Here? Finished six best, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying at the time he was telling us
Speaker 1: that it was number one or number two and model right,
Speaker 1: And so I will question that if the Ravens win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that the seventh best team of all time.
Speaker 1: I think that is also a little uh. I don't
Speaker 1: know aggressive well, and I questioned him as well. But
Speaker 1: I think what was interesting more than anything is the
Speaker 1: gap between the Ravens in terms of all of his
Speaker 1: simulations and their teams winning the Super Bowls. This was
Speaker 1: before winning the Super Bowl, this is before the playoffs started.
Speaker 1: That in his simulations the Ravens wincent of the time,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Niners four percent of the time. Like,
Speaker 1: that is a gap that I think most observers would
Speaker 1: be like, wow, are you serious? But Jeff, your counter
Speaker 1: to what Todd saying would be, what, look, if they
Speaker 1: can play? They have not played a bad game since
Speaker 1: they lost the Cleveland in Week four. So that basically
Speaker 1: the big counter to me on that is is it
Speaker 1: is extremely difficult to play double digit weeks in a
Speaker 1: row of near flawless football. You could argue that Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson has not played a single bad game since then.
Speaker 1: Their special teams has played flawlessly except for that random
Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Jets and Todd brought it up perfectly. Defensively,
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense has been really good since they got
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, and they've been shutting teams down just at
Speaker 1: some point to me, and the reason I lean Tennessee
Speaker 1: is how it is nearly impossible to play thirteen straight
Speaker 1: games with no clonkers. So I just would I would
Speaker 1: just be scared with the fact I think that that
Speaker 1: Tennessee is gonna have to score some points to stay
Speaker 1: inside the number. And Derrick Henry is not really a
Speaker 1: point scorer. He's more of a control of the ball person.
Speaker 1: Look big Todd, Todd, the big thing too is and
Speaker 1: you mentioned and you're right, Ryan Tannehill could come out
Speaker 1: and throw three interceptions and it's enough in Baltimore nine
Speaker 1: minutes into the game, and my bets cook that's the case.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm relying on on Tennessee's defense, which I
Speaker 1: don't think gets enough credit to slow down Baltimore enough.
Speaker 1: And then when they're on offense, Derrick Henry not to
Speaker 1: do what he did last week, because that's a d
Speaker 1: eight yards is not gonna happen every week. If Henry
Speaker 1: is in the one twenties, Tennessee's got a shot here
Speaker 1: to at least keep this thing within the number, and
Speaker 1: of course down sixteen with with five minutes to go,
Speaker 1: they could get a backdoor touchdown, and then I'm in
Speaker 1: that way too. Yeah. I mean, that's why, and that's
Speaker 1: why most of us aren't on anything pre flop, because
Speaker 1: we can see all kinds of scenarios. Last thing about
Speaker 1: the greatest team of all time thing or the greatest
Speaker 1: team at least through five. You know, we often talk
Speaker 1: about recency bias when it comes to week to week
Speaker 1: National Football League in our handicapping. This is sort of
Speaker 1: the opposite of recency bias, that we're almost too close
Speaker 1: to the sun with a team like the Ravens. We
Speaker 1: almost go the other direction when we think about teams
Speaker 1: of lore. So while we're in the moment, I don't
Speaker 1: think we always realize because what Jeff saying is right,
Speaker 1: we may not realize just how good this team is
Speaker 1: that we're watching in Baltimore. The number one team since
Speaker 1: for Aaron Shotson Football Outsiders through his metric of d
Speaker 1: v O A is the Washington Redskins. And unless you're
Speaker 1: a Redskins fan like me who lived every snap of
Speaker 1: that season and new as a fan, this is the
Speaker 1: at his damn football team I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: damn life. Most people who are football fans as big
Speaker 1: football fans as I am, don't process it that way.
Speaker 1: Didn't at the time, but with time they're probably like,
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Mark Rippin only got sacked seven times all year.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, they only lost one legitimate game
Speaker 1: all season in all of the postseason. So I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it's it's a it's a boulder
Speaker 1: take for Aaron to say what he's saying about the
Speaker 1: Ravens than it is for us to say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: that can't be right about the Ravens. I think that
Speaker 1: needs to be said. Anyway, let's move to see I
Speaker 1: know I'd like to ask the panel of the question, please,
Speaker 1: I'll think of a factor. Do you think for Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson his performance against San Diego in the Divisional round
Speaker 1: will be as he heads into this game? Interesting question?
Speaker 1: Do you mean that the San Diego game last year?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? Yeah? When when at
Speaker 1: the went in the fourth quarter of the Baltimore fans
Speaker 1: were booing and calling for Flacco, so let's just make
Speaker 1: us a there. Let's say Tennessee goes up nothing like,
Speaker 1: does that creep into Lamar Jackson? Is that what you're asking?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, yeah, that's what I'm asking. How
Speaker 1: big of a factor was what probably his worst pro
Speaker 1: performance last year, which was in the playoffs against the Charges.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: a factor. And and you know these guys they're playing,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're thinking about that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson has been pretty much unstoppable all year.
Speaker 1: Harbor has been fantastic. Uh, the offensive coordinator has has
Speaker 1: has created a brilliant scheme there. I really don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue. And I personally, I
Speaker 1: really don't think that Tennessee is that good just based
Speaker 1: on the New England game. I mean, New England lost
Speaker 1: to Miami at home. They were not a good team.
Speaker 1: At the end of the year. Tennessee barely squeaked that
Speaker 1: game out. Now Jeff was saying New England never got close.
Speaker 1: Had had the guy um Edelman not dropped the ball
Speaker 1: around the fifty line, they may have lost the game.
Speaker 1: So Um, I don't think it's gonna have a major
Speaker 1: factor in and be a major factor in this game.
Speaker 1: For Lamar, I think they're just they're they're rolling too
Speaker 1: well right now. And uh, you know, I just don't
Speaker 1: really buy into that kind of stuff. I'm I'm with
Speaker 1: Todd on that, Mike, you feel otherwise for asking the question,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's it's it's it's it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a question you have to ask when handicapping this game
Speaker 1: and wonder, especially from in game opportunities, if the start
Speaker 1: isn't ideal as Jeff suggests for Baltimore, will that put
Speaker 1: extra pressure on Jackson in this spot? Definitely worth pottery
Speaker 1: and and time will tell. I mean, just in general,
Speaker 1: Baltimore falling behind in a game like, we just don't
Speaker 1: see that right. So well, well, Gil at one add
Speaker 1: one thing here? When is John Harball And look, Hardball
Speaker 1: is an unbelievable coach. He's want a super Bowl, he
Speaker 1: want a super Bow with Flacco for goodness sakes, Um,
Speaker 1: They've never been the hunted. They've always been the hunter.
Speaker 1: This is the first time that they're the number one
Speaker 1: overall seed. Everyone's trying to chase down Baltimore now, it's
Speaker 1: a whole different team than what they've had in the past. Obviously,
Speaker 1: ray Lewis has gone, Flacco's gone, and Reid's gone. All
Speaker 1: those elite players from those from even that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: team for the most part, aren't there anymore. But this
Speaker 1: is a new game for John Harbaugh as a coach,
Speaker 1: and I imagine he'll he'll probably be his steady hand self.
Speaker 1: But I think Mike's question does have a little bit
Speaker 1: of merit. I don't think it will impact it because
Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson is a completely different player than
Speaker 1: he was twelve months ago, especially throwing the football. He's
Speaker 1: a lot more confident, and he was much better this year,
Speaker 1: and then he was at any point a year ago
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. But if it's somehow tend nothing Tennessee
Speaker 1: at the end of the at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarter in Baltimore, struggling to move the ball, that's
Speaker 1: when the questions can start creeping in a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying is is we've we've
Speaker 1: framed it as a Lamar Jackson mental thing. But what
Speaker 1: I guess I'm saying is they're just never behind to
Speaker 1: begin with. How would we be able to differentiate between
Speaker 1: the fact that it's Lamar or just the fact of
Speaker 1: the team as a whole is just never used to
Speaker 1: being in this position. Are they a team built for
Speaker 1: a comeback? Right? So it'll be fun to watch. That's
Speaker 1: the second game on Saturday, that's for sure. Sunday another
Speaker 1: a f C game. This is the game between the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and the Kansas City Chiefs. Three oh five
Speaker 1: Eastern twelve oh five Pacific start. Chiefs nine and a half,
Speaker 1: ten point favorites, right in that same pocket as Baltimore
Speaker 1: the day before. Um, Houston, boy, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they won that game against Buffalo, but man sixteen to
Speaker 1: nothing deficit, they come back to make it sixteen to eight.
Speaker 1: Strip sack, They get a field goal, then a three
Speaker 1: and out Buffalo. Excuse me. Houston takes the lead after
Speaker 1: a two point conversion. It's nineteen to sixteen. Buffalo mature,
Speaker 1: you know, matriculates. There's a josh Alan lateral on the
Speaker 1: way out. Not a matriculation. I don't know what he
Speaker 1: was doing, but anyway, they end up getting it third
Speaker 1: down in field goal range to tie the game. The
Speaker 1: Bills do intentional grounding horrible sack. They lose thirty three
Speaker 1: yards on two plays. That second play. They should have
Speaker 1: punted anyway on fourth and twenty seven, but there was
Speaker 1: no one in Sean McDermott's here to say, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: probably should punt. We got the three time outs anyway,
Speaker 1: it might as well pin them. But they do end
Speaker 1: up successfully using those three time outs after three rushes,
Speaker 1: and then Houston doesn't convert on a fourth in one
Speaker 1: where Deshaun Watson get stoned. Buffalo ends up tyeing it
Speaker 1: in regulation. Houston on an unbelievable iconic play for their franchise,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson bounces off two tackles, spin and bounces, really
Speaker 1: finds his running back thirty four yard pick up and
Speaker 1: of course uh Kimi fairbar and wins it in overtime
Speaker 1: twenty two to nineteen. And that, of course doesn't even
Speaker 1: include the phantom blindside block on the bills that preceded
Speaker 1: that that took them out of potential game winning field
Speaker 1: goal range Houston's here. Somehow they got through, but they
Speaker 1: get the Chiefs. Weather in Kansas City if this game
Speaker 1: we're on Saturday, snow in the forecast, but on Sunday
Speaker 1: above freezing and nothing but sunshine. In case we start
Speaker 1: with utadd on this one. First of all, I just
Speaker 1: want to say, I is there a team, Is there
Speaker 1: a coach that does worse on fourth and inches than
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien in the history of football. I can remember
Speaker 1: so many fourth down in less than one were Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien somehow blew it, and it happened again this past week.
Speaker 1: But I can remember a Raiders game one time, and
Speaker 1: there was a Chiefs game. I mean, just so many
Speaker 1: antics and craziness happening when it's I remember one time
Speaker 1: he gave it to like a hundred and sixty pound
Speaker 1: back on fourth and one and didn't make it. From
Speaker 1: many years ago, he is just a fourth and one nightmare. Uh. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that that that being said, I don't think Houston has
Speaker 1: a chance in hell in this game. I know they
Speaker 1: beat him earlier in the year. That was a different
Speaker 1: Kansas City team. I think Kansas City has their ducks
Speaker 1: in a row. Am I gonna pregame? Bet it? Probably
Speaker 1: not again. I'll probably be looking to use it in
Speaker 1: some form of teaser. I don't think Houston is that good.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they should have won the game
Speaker 1: last week. I think if Buffalo, you know, had played
Speaker 1: that a little smarter, there there was no way Houston
Speaker 1: was even coming back in that game. Uh, so many
Speaker 1: things had to go right for them to even advance.
Speaker 1: I think they're a very flawed football team with a
Speaker 1: very flawed coach. Again, I think he's a good coach,
Speaker 1: not an elite coach. He's kind of like a Tomlin.
Speaker 1: He can get you to nine, ten, eleven wins, but
Speaker 1: he's not going to take you anywhere spectacular. I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of Bill O'Brien as far as being an
Speaker 1: elite coach. So you know, like I said, I'll probably
Speaker 1: be on some form of Kansas City and teasing, but
Speaker 1: I don't want any part of Houston. Yeah, I fail
Speaker 1: to mention. The total is the one that's moved the
Speaker 1: most on the board forty eight and a half all
Speaker 1: the way to fifty one. Nowift one across the board
Speaker 1: in this game, and I wonder if that's because the
Speaker 1: weather looks like it will have cleared up already by Sunday. Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'll go under that fifty one. How is Houston and
Speaker 1: to score more than U score more than ten points
Speaker 1: in this game. With the way Kansas City's defense is
Speaker 1: starting starting to play over these last six weeks. First
Speaker 1: matchup was a high scoring game that UH that that
Speaker 1: UH finished at fifty five, but it was a different
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chief squad there. Mahomes had his banged up ankle. UH.
Speaker 1: The Chief defense was still historically awful at that point
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. But the Chief defense has really
Speaker 1: really looked like a real unit and a good unit
Speaker 1: the last six games. Mahomes is healthy, the offense is healthy.
Speaker 1: As a whole, This Chief team is really really scary
Speaker 1: right now as a whole. I don't feel comfortable laying
Speaker 1: that many points because we've the same reason that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't lay it with Baltimore. All takes is one back
Speaker 1: door touchdown and you're screwed, even though even though you
Speaker 1: maybe up seventeen or or fourteen. Basically the whole way,
Speaker 1: I'll go under the fifty one this UH, this Kansas
Speaker 1: City team, Gail, there's a reason that I hopped in
Speaker 1: on them on the futures market UH in between week
Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen, which ended up turning out to be
Speaker 1: the correct time to do it. We couldn't have foreseen
Speaker 1: New England watching that game to Miami, but they did,
Speaker 1: so I can't. I'm all in on casey UH winning
Speaker 1: this game. Not comfortable enough to lay the points, but
Speaker 1: I'll go under. I'm not sure how Houston scores more
Speaker 1: than ten or ten or fourteen points in this game.
Speaker 1: And let's not forgetting that Houston Buffalo game. Referees almost
Speaker 1: tried to give Buffalo gift I should say, Buffalo a
Speaker 1: touchdown on the opening kickoff of the second half when
Speaker 1: UH referees briefly decided not to pay attention to the
Speaker 1: safe signal given by UH. The Houston return man tried
Speaker 1: to give Buffalo a touchdown when they recovered in the
Speaker 1: end zone, but cooler heads prevailed from the referees caucusing,
Speaker 1: and they decided, okay, no, that's not what he meant.
Speaker 1: He did give a safe sign. Let's not all get crazy,
Speaker 1: sort of like that coin flip in that Cowboys Rams game,
Speaker 1: or Dak Prescott did or did not say defer and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh no, they had the ball twice and
Speaker 1: then cooler heads prevailed there as well. The XFL is
Speaker 1: showing us that all of this referee injection stuff. Just
Speaker 1: stop it. You know exactly what Dak Prescott meant. If
Speaker 1: a team receives in one half, it should just be
Speaker 1: given that they are excuson if they kick off, if
Speaker 1: they differ in one half, they should just get the
Speaker 1: ball automatically in the second. And much like this, with
Speaker 1: a safe sign that was given, he's given himself up.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be a touchdown. Let's not act like it should be. Mike,
Speaker 1: did you feel that way about that play? I did.
Speaker 1: It's it's beyond ridiculous now and the level of the
Speaker 1: officiating has sunk to its lowest And maybe I'm remembering
Speaker 1: things as they never were, but growing up, I don't
Speaker 1: remember so many gaffs on a weekly basis where you
Speaker 1: could find a top five bad horrendous calls or top
Speaker 1: ten or so many of these. So many of these
Speaker 1: head officials now are just empty suits, and they're not
Speaker 1: memorable at all. At we we grew up with very
Speaker 1: what seemed like commanding figures in these games, and maybe
Speaker 1: replay has changed it, but it's the credibility of the
Speaker 1: product can to needs to decline. I agree, it's a man.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a band like this before and coaching
Speaker 1: decisions being so bad. Your thoughts on this one, Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy here, but I think
Speaker 1: this is too many points. Um, let's remember that Kansas
Speaker 1: City was life and death to beat San Diego Bike
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers Bike ten in the last game of
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, they needed a kick return touchdown
Speaker 1: and really really turn that game around. I don't know,
Speaker 1: watching and maybe it's a recency bias of of watching
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson and how how tough he is down the
Speaker 1: stretching games, and and you know that they have some
Speaker 1: weapons back this week, and I I think that they
Speaker 1: keep this game within the number. I cannot lay it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I pre flop it or if
Speaker 1: I wait for endgame, but I'm a heavy lean here
Speaker 1: on the top. On the Texas. Wow, I'm so you're
Speaker 1: You're the first person I've heard say that this week,
Speaker 1: sort of like the Clemson LS. You think I'm getting
Speaker 1: worried about because everybody's with Clemson in the points. Nobody
Speaker 1: was talking about the Vikings being able to beat the
Speaker 1: Saints last week, and nobody's talking about the Texas this week.
Speaker 1: You're a percent, right, I didn't hear one person until
Speaker 1: like that morning with somebody. I met somebody from Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Dave Ferre's brother, who was like, oh, I think they'll win.
Speaker 1: Until that point, I had not heard one person. I
Speaker 1: think the Vikings can went out right. Seattle at Green
Speaker 1: Bay is obviously the last game of the four winner
Speaker 1: plays the winner of Minnesota San Francisco in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Weather in green Bay once again, if it were Saturday,
Speaker 1: they'd have snow instead. It's just gonna be cold as
Speaker 1: hell to four degrees. Obviously, we've seen games much colder
Speaker 1: in green Bay before. By green Bay standrews. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: even a little ball me. At this time of year,
Speaker 1: green Bay is a four point favorite. There's some four
Speaker 1: and a half's out there as well. In this one,
Speaker 1: the totals forty seven, shortest spread of the board, that's
Speaker 1: for sure, Jeff, we start with you here, oh man.
Speaker 1: So Seattle, Seattle needed Josh McCown to play that whole
Speaker 1: game instead of Carson Wentz in order to win that game, Gil,
Speaker 1: I really do believe that because at some point, I
Speaker 1: mean McCown kept dry even them down and driving them down,
Speaker 1: and then something would befell the Eagles, and they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: We couldn't get in the end zone last week green Bay,
Speaker 1: as we talked about on this podcast and on the
Speaker 1: Numbers game and basically all over all over the Visa
Speaker 1: Network as well. Green Bay's paper Tiger thirteen and three.
Speaker 1: But yet here they are there a two seed. Uh,
Speaker 1: they could vary. This game could very easily. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: stun me in Minnesota went to San Francisco and one.
Speaker 1: But but we could be staying all right, this game
Speaker 1: is for home field in the NFC Championship game. I
Speaker 1: have nothing on this game. Deal Ei, there are no
Speaker 1: no bets at all, because I can see Seattle winning
Speaker 1: the game out right. I could see Green Bay winning
Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. I could see this game ending. I
Speaker 1: could see this game ending thirteen to nine. It's I
Speaker 1: had no feel whatsoever. So this is a This is
Speaker 1: a complete nothing for me in this game. I just
Speaker 1: got a text this has nothing to do with anything
Speaker 1: ProFootball that Mike Leach has headed to miss Sippy State.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they are really between Lane given and
Speaker 1: um Mike Leach. Wow, I can't lose the press conference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, as Jeff was alluding to, Seattle got here
Speaker 1: by virtue of their win over the Eagles last week.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz hurt in the first quarter. I was saying
Speaker 1: on a numbers game, all these people are like up,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz can't get it done the big game. He
Speaker 1: got blindsided in the helmet and pounded into the ground.
Speaker 1: Stop with the Carson Wentz narratives. But Seattle got it done,
Speaker 1: identical seventeen to nine win over the Eagles that they
Speaker 1: had in the regular season. Much different trajectory of the
Speaker 1: game though, And in this one, I would argue, you know,
Speaker 1: for as much as I killed Sean Payton his performance
Speaker 1: against the Vikings, Pete Carroll kind of botched the clock
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, but he got
Speaker 1: bailed out by roughing the passer penalty. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the game, if that pass doesn't get completed
Speaker 1: from Russell Wilson to DK metcalf, who knows, maybe people
Speaker 1: are killing Pete Carroll for that too. I happen to
Speaker 1: like that pass at that time. But the Seahawks get
Speaker 1: it done. They sack mccalen six times, Wentz one time
Speaker 1: before that set in total. Sas Mikey, what do you
Speaker 1: think here. I love this under kill. But let's not
Speaker 1: forget this is a five thirty local start. This is
Speaker 1: a night game. It will be dark already a kick
Speaker 1: up in green Bay, and it's only going to get
Speaker 1: colder as the game goes on. I think the total
Speaker 1: is way too high. We've seen the cold weather games
Speaker 1: in green Bay already this year. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: catch these long passes. It's hard to move the ball
Speaker 1: down the field quick. Um I think the green Bay
Speaker 1: defense has gotten better through the course of the year.
Speaker 1: Um I still think at thirteen and three they're they've
Speaker 1: overachieved that that record is how good as they really are.
Speaker 1: I think their offense is actually their weakness. Um I.
Speaker 1: I would think that green Bay is going to be
Speaker 1: able to win this spot just because Seattle really doesn't
Speaker 1: have a rushing attack and will make them one dimensional.
Speaker 1: But this is for me as a play on first
Speaker 1: quarter under, first half under in game. Under is the
Speaker 1: total right now in this game as we do this
Speaker 1: on Thursday morning. Again, not not quite the Ice Bowl,
Speaker 1: not quite that game against the Giants where Tom Coughlin's
Speaker 1: face fell off, but still by the way I thought
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was gonna die on the field that I
Speaker 1: really was concerned for his own Todd. You know, I
Speaker 1: just want Russell Wilson when uh, I'm in a tough spot.
Speaker 1: He just seems so incredibly elusive and able to pull
Speaker 1: plays out of his out of his butt. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand how you stopped the guy. Now, granted, there
Speaker 1: have been games where he has been stopped. The game
Speaker 1: against Arizona was kind of a conundrum how that happened.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really sure. Uh, And there have been another
Speaker 1: couple of games where Seattle just hasn't looked that great
Speaker 1: on offense, and quite frankly, Seattle's defense is not exactly
Speaker 1: great either. Um. But you know, in the end, if
Speaker 1: I'm getting four and a half, I mean this, this
Speaker 1: is the kind of game that feels to me like
Speaker 1: a backdoor touchdown could easily get scored. Uh. I think
Speaker 1: I Russell Wilson running around like a crazy person, causing
Speaker 1: green Bay's defense tremendous problems late, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if anything, I would lean to Seattle here. Also, green
Speaker 1: Bay has just been up and down. I mean they
Speaker 1: got blown out at San Francisco, they got blown out
Speaker 1: by the Chargers. I mean who is Green Bay? They
Speaker 1: killed Minnesota on the road. Are they the good team?
Speaker 1: Are they the bad team? I'm not sure what they are.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I don't like this game much,
Speaker 1: but if I have to play it, I would lean
Speaker 1: to Seattle. Yeah. I I literally I don't remember a
Speaker 1: show where I didn't have one single pre flop pick
Speaker 1: on any of these. I'm doing UH radio in my
Speaker 1: hometown Washington, d C. Later today, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what I can provide these people other than teasers which
Speaker 1: are about to come up. But you raise an interesting
Speaker 1: point there too, Todd, which is which makes the NFL.
Speaker 1: This is what makes the NFL so maddening. You pointed
Speaker 1: out Seattle just a couple of weeks ago they looked
Speaker 1: like a dog crap against Arizona in Minnesota. Two weeks
Speaker 1: before their win last week against the Saints, they looked
Speaker 1: as Jeff put it, as we said it as we
Speaker 1: put it on a numbers game. This week, they made
Speaker 1: the Packers defense look like the eighty five Bears, and
Speaker 1: then two weeks later they're this unbelievable team on on
Speaker 1: the complete opposite end. So it's it's just such a
Speaker 1: maddening game to be able to determine from week to week,
Speaker 1: even here with full motivation obviously uh in the postseason
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Speaker 1: speed round. We'll get to the final two questions momentarily,
Speaker 1: but let's start with our two team six point teasers
Speaker 1: of the week, which once again I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: get correct last week because who didn't who? Who killed
Speaker 1: it for me? Because New Orleans didn't get there. New
Speaker 1: Orleans didn't get there. That's right, Jeff. Let's start with
Speaker 1: you to uh team six pointers, sir? All right, San
Speaker 1: Francisco down to one, and I will I'll make this
Speaker 1: all Saturday so I can get that. I can just
Speaker 1: torture myself for one day. We'll we'll pop, We'll pop
Speaker 1: Tennessee up to the sixteen or the fifteen and a half,
Speaker 1: whichever number it is, will pop Tennessee up. So San
Speaker 1: Francisco minus one and Tennessee either's sixteen or fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half. And I don't hate it. Mikey, Well, the
Speaker 1: forty niners is the obvious one for me. Down to one.
Speaker 1: I think I'll take the Texans up the fifteen and
Speaker 1: a half or whatever. Wowd give me give me Seattle
Speaker 1: plus ten and a half and give me the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners down to one. O, Toddy, I have
Speaker 1: your same teaser that means it's gonna lose San Francisco Seattle.
Speaker 1: Should we all be betting Minnesota now since we all
Speaker 1: had the Niners in there? Oh man, this is not good.
Speaker 1: Not good. By the way, Todd and I do a
Speaker 1: segment he's on every Wednesday with me, we do a
Speaker 1: segment on a numbers game in visa UH seven and
Speaker 1: nine Pacific tend to noon Eastern money through Friday at
Speaker 1: series sex and two or four called half big betting
Speaker 1: tips with that because if they were fully baked, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk about them. Do you enjoy the half bake segment?
Speaker 1: Todder is pretty much all of that we talk about
Speaker 1: sort of in game half bake stuff. It's not really
Speaker 1: you know, we we think of through. I just love
Speaker 1: coming on a Numbers game and doing my um, you know,
Speaker 1: my part for the community gives something back. You know, well,
Speaker 1: well you have the multimillion dollar contract with the podcast,
Speaker 1: So what do you care now? Exactly exactly? All right,
Speaker 1: final two questions, gentlemen. Again, we asked this during the
Speaker 1: regular season, and it makes more sense. But with four
Speaker 1: games on the slate, you can still last it will
Speaker 1: throw out Seattle Green Bay because that's the short number
Speaker 1: which is below six six and a half. And we'll
Speaker 1: ask it of the other three games of the big
Speaker 1: favorite San Francisco favored by seven over Minnesota, Baltimore favored
Speaker 1: by nine and a half or ten against Tennessee in
Speaker 1: Kansas City favored by nine and a half or ten
Speaker 1: against Houston. Which of the big favorites is the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose outright? Mikey Chiefs Chiefs, Wow, Todd The
Speaker 1: biggest favorite to lose out right, I think is going
Speaker 1: to be m hm, well, yeah, supposed to say Francisco,
Speaker 1: but we all, well, that's right. I I can't really
Speaker 1: see what I mean. The Seattle is not gonna count, right, No,
Speaker 1: Seattles doesn't count. You can't pick that one. I don't
Speaker 1: want to pick any of these. I don't pick Adam, Adam, Jeff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Baltimore. I'm gonna say Baltimore just because
Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to say Kansas City against Houston.
Speaker 1: Although Houston, I mean everything I just said about green Bay,
Speaker 1: excuse me about Minnesota and Seattle. I could say that
Speaker 1: about Houston too, in the opposite right, Houston one week,
Speaker 1: they're terrible the next week I was like, Oh, there's Houston.
Speaker 1: They could beat anybody, and then they suck, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going Baltimore though, all right? And then the final
Speaker 1: question you had to play? This is gonna be sort
Speaker 1: of counterintuitive because we don't like any of these, so
Speaker 1: maybe I should say maybe I should do it the
Speaker 1: other way around. Let's say you didn't have to play
Speaker 1: any of these, but you were forced to play one
Speaker 1: of them pre flop A T S. Which I've never
Speaker 1: really asked before, but this seems like the appropriate week
Speaker 1: to ask it. You were forced to play a T
Speaker 1: S on one of these games? Which team? In which game?
Speaker 1: Would it be? Todd? But if I if I didn't
Speaker 1: one game that I don't want to play, ever, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, in other words, on the side, is there
Speaker 1: one you're forced to play? Like? You didn't like any
Speaker 1: of them? Pre flop A T S? Right, okay, so
Speaker 1: but I'm forcing you to pick one, Todd, It's not
Speaker 1: that complicated. Which one do you want? I guess if
Speaker 1: you're forcing me to play, I'll take San Francisco. Did
Speaker 1: you didn't want to answer either of the final two questions?
Speaker 1: Did you all right? I don't like I didn't like
Speaker 1: these questions this week. I'm sorry. That's that's an answer.
Speaker 1: I guess, Jeff, by virtue of the fact that I
Speaker 1: gave Tennessee as a lead. I would take the Titans
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make it, pick one of the score games.
Speaker 1: And Mikey, I already gave San Francisco, you already gave
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Mine would be the Seattle Seahawks of are
Speaker 1: in might tease with the Niners, but that would be
Speaker 1: my choice. All right, boys, I think that's really it. Really,
Speaker 1: We've done all we can do. Divisional Round, National Football League.
Speaker 1: Jeff Parlay, thank you very much for coming in on
Speaker 1: such short notice. You are a mensch. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Gil always always a pleasure. And we will
Speaker 1: have Michael Lombardion next week with us for Championship Round
Speaker 1: and then the weekend between Championship Round and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I know, Todd you said you're gonna be out of town,
Speaker 1: but we're still doing a lifestyle podcast. Are you still
Speaker 1: down for that or do you want me to get
Speaker 1: somebody else to do it? No, I'll do lifestyles of
Speaker 1: the relatives of the rich and famous. Okay, Well, it's
Speaker 1: not kind of like that show. It's more like restaurants
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know what else you do. You
Speaker 1: don't do anything but do sports, though you bet sports well,
Speaker 1: Todd can tell us his favorite sports books in town, Gil,
Speaker 1: this might be a good week for for the Parles
Speaker 1: food expertise to uh, I can I can testify that
Speaker 1: Jeff Parls does enjoy food at a very high level
Speaker 1: of quantity. Let's put it. That does well, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 1: He's definitely in. Yes, Mikey, you're in for that kind
Speaker 1: of show. I'm I'm in, but I'm interested going to
Speaker 1: the concept of having Todd on to do a lifestyle
Speaker 1: show when he's famous for not having a life life
Speaker 1: and no life and no style both, you know what
Speaker 1: I will. I will take those both as a compliment.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Of course, Mark Meltzer will be here to
Speaker 1: join us Man about Town for the Vegas Lifestyle Show,
Speaker 1: but that's after next week when we have Lombardi Championship around.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff, thank you Mike, thank you Todd. Good
Speaker 1: luck to all of you division around National Football League.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.