1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Favorit production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm Anne Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: have a classic episode for you about space, food, foods 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and space. You have to say it that way, it's 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: legally required you do. Thank you for acknowledging that that 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: important by law. Annie. Yes, I'm just looking out. I'm 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: just looking out, uh yeah, to peek behind the curtain. Um. Before, 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: since we are recording separately in our home studios, we 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: do countdowns so we can sink up the audio later. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: And it does always make me think of launching into 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: space because um. But also when I first started, everybody 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: has like their preferences on clapping and like starting, and 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I remember I think it was Bryant from Stuff you 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: should know. Maybe not somebody was like, I don't like 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: a countdown. I'm not a rocket. It just stuck with 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: me to this day. It took me. It took me 17 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: a solid like eight or nine months to stop like 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: giggling about like are you ready for the clap um 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: because I'm very mature, yes, yes, yes, unrelated. So this 20 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: episode originally published back in October and focused mostly on 21 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the the the history of foods in space, which has 22 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: mostly been UM highly packaged things, very processed things that 23 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: have been able to withstand the rigors of of space 24 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: travel UM and the specific weirdnesses that go along with it. UM. 25 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: But over the past couple of years there have been 26 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: UM some really interesting experiments about getting more fresh foods 27 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: into space. For example, there have been experiments on the 28 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: I S S the International Space Station to grow edible 29 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: plants in space. So far radishes, lettuces, cabbage, mustard, and 30 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: koe nice right good space salads. Also recent news UM. 31 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: In order to help out with that, or related to 32 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: helping out with that, I guess I should say UM. 33 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: Several species of bacteria have been found on the I 34 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: S S, including a few previously unrecorded UH species UM 35 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: that have been classified within the Methylobacterium genus, which here 36 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: on Earth do important things like help plants get nitrogen 37 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: out of the air and into like a plant usable form. 38 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: So that's cool and not the horror show that Annie 39 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: assumed it was going to be when she read that headline, 40 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: How did you know that you know me so well? 41 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it's because you said it out loud, But 42 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: that could be it. That could be But but also 43 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: I do. I do just know you pretty well. And yeah, 44 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: when someone says undiscovered bacteria on the space station, like, 45 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I know where your brain is gonna go, Like it 46 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: seems like the obvious conclusion. I see you and your 47 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: horror movie habit, I I understand. Um. Um. Also in 48 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: January of this year, NASA and the CISA, the Canadian 49 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Space Agency launched uh. They launched so I'm sorry, UM 50 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: I wrote it and then I was like, oh, well, 51 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: hang out with you too much? Um. Now they launched 52 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: a program called the Deep Space Food Challenge UM, which 53 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: aims to encourage the development of food production technologies that 54 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: can help like a create tasty food with a minimum 55 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: of resources and waste to help feed a crew of 56 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: four astronauts on a three year round trip mission with 57 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: no resupply UM, and be uh like, do the same 58 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: thing here on Earth for populations that also don't have 59 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: good access to fresh foods right now. So yeah, it's 60 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: a pretty exciting project. UM. There's up to five hundred 61 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and prizes here in the United States, and 62 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Canada is offering prizes for their national entries to international 63 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: teams are also welcome to participate, but not for cash prizes, 64 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: I guess, and registration is still open. It is open 65 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: through May. So um. If you have an idea for 66 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: food and space and the technology with which to produce it, 67 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: go check it out Deep Space Food Challenge. Yeah, Deep 68 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Space Food Challenge. I love it. I love it, and 69 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: definitely report back if you do. Oh my goodness, report 70 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: back if you do. Yeah. But in the meantime, I 71 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: guess we should let past Annie and Lauren take it away. Yes, yes, hello, 72 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to food Stuff. I'm any Eares and I'm 73 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum. And this is our episode of food Stuff 74 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: in Space. That's really high tech sound effects, only the 75 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: best food. So there's a lot to talk about here. Yeah, 76 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: get right into it. What is space food? It's food 77 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: for space travel. Yeah. And as we all learned in 78 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the Simpsons episode Deep Space Homer, in which Homer Simpson 79 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: let's potato chips and then ants loose in a spacecraft, 80 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: you've got to take some special considerations before you take 81 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: food into space because the equipment up there is you know, 82 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: kind of delicate, and any kind of loose particles or 83 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: drops of liquid could just seriously muck things up in 84 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: the near zero gravity of orbit. And yes, I said 85 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: near zero gravity, it's not really zero gravity. There's always 86 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: gravity kind of kicking around. So a technical point, but 87 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: an important one because of science. Yes, So you've got 88 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: to give astronauts food that's well contained, you know, like 89 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: tortillas instead of bread to reduce crumbs. Things that are 90 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: sticky or what enough to not float out of their 91 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: containers or off of a utensil. Uh, stuff like scrambled 92 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: eggs or stews, or oatmeal seasoned with salt that's dissolved 93 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: in water, and pepper that's suspended in oil. Oh yeah. Um. 94 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: It's also got to be shelf stable because refrigeration systems 95 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: for food are generally considered too bulky or difficult or 96 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: energy consuming. It helps if the food is dehydrated and 97 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: therefore lightweight, because the cost per pound of sending stuff 98 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: into space is uh well hefty yeah pun intended, huh uh. 99 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: And modernly most water in space comes from reclaimed, recycled 100 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: sources instead of from supply runs. Also, you have to 101 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: make really like really sure that none of the packaging 102 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: or utensils or heating elements involved with your food might 103 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: create a spark that could start a fire. Uh, and 104 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: they want puncture any equipment. Don't want any of that. 105 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: And furthermore, the food has to be, you know, like 106 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: not so boring or so gross that the highly trained 107 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: scientists and flight specialists wind up starving themselves. Yeah, you 108 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: don't want that either. For travel to the International Space Station, 109 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: five months before emission, crew members do a taste test 110 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: of twenty to thirty things, ranking taste, texture, smell, appearance, 111 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: in color on a scale of one to nine, and 112 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: to make the cut of food needs to score a 113 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: six or higher. They can request some of their faith 114 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: at foods from home, and researchers will do what they 115 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: can to comply. For example, for Canadian Chris had Fields stay, 116 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: they added to the menu duck roulette and candied smoked salmon, 117 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: wild cought even and maple syrup cream cookies. Well, that 118 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: sounds delicious. Dietitians have to balance the need of space 119 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: as well. For instance, astronauts need calcium and vitamin D 120 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: for good bone health in a witless almost weightless environment, 121 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: but um and the less iron because you're making less 122 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: red blood cells in space. Space travel and the need 123 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to feed astronauts in space has fueled a lot of 124 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: food and food processing innovations like thermostabilized our heat processed 125 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: foods that can come in cans or pouches, rehydratable foods 126 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: like soups or castroles, and your radiated meat. The the 127 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: irradiated means that it won't spoil, not that it's like Godzilla. Yeah, 128 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: that's what I thought at first, that would not be good. 129 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: It generally takes about thirty minutes to pre era to 130 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: like reconstitute and heat a space meal. Um, and a 131 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: lot of these innovations like freeze dried food went on 132 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to become available to your you know, every day non 133 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: astronaut consumer like Lauren and I. We could, we could 134 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: probably do a whole other episode on like the technological 135 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: innovations from the space program that have benefited the food 136 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: industry earth side. Yeah, but that day is not today. Nope, 137 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: today is space side. I don't know if that makes sense, 138 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: but we're moving on with it. Current astronauts on the 139 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: International Space Station eat three meals and one snack per day. 140 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: The Johnson Space Centers Space Food Systems Laboratory comes up 141 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: with these menus for American astronauts, while the Russian Federal 142 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Space Agency does the same for its cosmonauts. Most of 143 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: these meals are the just add water variety, similar to 144 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: the military's m R. E's. Some package foods a lot 145 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: of us are more familiar with make their way up 146 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: to space as well, like almonds or drinks. The draws 147 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: a lot cuprey son, which is what I thought of anyway. 148 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: UM food packages come with velcro, so astronauts can stick 149 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: to the velico steps on the galley table and it 150 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: won't float away. That'd be sad. I would be so 151 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: cross with my snack if it floated away. Astronauts uh 152 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and costnots and etcetera also do sometimes receive fresh fruit 153 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and vegetables from supply missions and care packages from family UM, 154 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and these are serious treats. It's hard to to nail 155 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: down a finite cost of sending stuff to space because 156 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: there's so many factors that go into it. But you 157 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: can divide the cost of each launch by the weight 158 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: of the cargo each craft can carry to get a 159 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of rough idea. Uh So, so you know that 160 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: the cost will differ depend on the type of craft 161 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: being used. But the low end of the range is 162 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars per pound of food. Well, that's the 163 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: low end. Huh yeah yeah, and and a pound equals 164 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: about half a kilo UM for for our metric friend, 165 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: um that the high end. The high end is over 166 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: forty three thousand dollars per pound, no boy, which means 167 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: that sending a single fresh lemon to space can cost 168 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: about ten grand. I would enjoy that lemon so much though, right, 169 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: cocktails in space, So actually we've got a segment on 170 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: that later. Um. The total food eaten by astronauts, yes, 171 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: on average, each gets about three point eight pounds including 172 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: the packaging. They probably don't eat the packaging per day um, 173 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: which equals out to about uh somewhere between nineteen hundred 174 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: and thirty two hundred calories, depending on the person's specific 175 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: needs and the food items that have been sent to space. 176 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: The most are M and M's with over one thirty 177 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: chips since nine one, but they call them chocolate coated candies. 178 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: I think something like that, followed by a high tech 179 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: food trade that could heat itself and came with a 180 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: collapsible bottle called the sky Lab Food System. And coming 181 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: in third is the iconic astronaut powdered drink makes tang yes, 182 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: courtesy of the dry cabin decreased sense of smell unless 183 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: your atmosphere space. Human ability to taste is lowered by 184 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: thirty in space, which is why foods loaded up with 185 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: spices have been and are some of the most popular. 186 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: Apparently shrimp cocktail is just white. No, that kept coming up. Yeah. 187 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Part of what's going on here, not with a shrimp cocktail, 188 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: but with your your face is that in near zero 189 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: gravity that the blood that your heart is trained to 190 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: work really hard at pulling up from your legs tends 191 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: to kind of accumulate in your head more than it 192 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: usually would, which means that your sciences get kind of 193 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: swollen and your nose stuffs up. Another part is that 194 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: sense don't waft the same way in near zero gravity. Also, 195 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: freeze drying foods can destroy some of the compounds that 196 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: create sent in flavor. So you've got that to contend with. Yeah, 197 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: and of course you've got to have water. As of 198 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: the I s SH International Space Station, if we haven't 199 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: said that previously, I'm not sure. Anyway, carried about two 200 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: thousand liters a little bit over five gallons of water, 201 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: but also reclaimed and recycled as much as of the 202 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: water used by its astronauts. Uh. The station collects the 203 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: condensation from breath and sweat and the runoff from showers, 204 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: and on the American side of the station they even 205 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: collect urine from astronauts and lab animals. Um. That all 206 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: gets filtered so that it winds up being cleaner than 207 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: most of what we drink here on Earth. One thing 208 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: that the Russians and Americans have classically disagreed on is 209 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: how best to filter all of that recycled water. And 210 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: they flat out refuse the yarine thing. They're like, Nope, 211 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: that's gross, you're terrible. Um. But but but the filtering 212 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: gets done. And of course water isn't the only thing 213 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: available to drink on the space station. Stuff like coffee, tea, 214 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: and juice usually come in powdered form and then are 215 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: reconstituted the ever important coffee. Oh yeah, Oh, there's a 216 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: whole bit about that later too. Uh, And we're going 217 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: to get to that kind of so, but first let's 218 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: get to a quick break for a word from our sponsor. 219 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So 220 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: let's talk a bit about the origins of space food 221 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: space food goes back about as far as the US 222 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: and Russian space programs of the nineteen sixties. Oh, we're 223 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: not going to talk about ancient Romans. Pliny didn't have 224 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: anything to say about it. I know plenty. Come on, 225 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to mention Christopher Columbus this whole episode, 226 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: except I just did. Oh oh yeah, Okay. Obviously, if 227 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: you're going to send people to space for more than 228 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: a few hours, you're gonna have to feed them somehow. 229 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: In addressing this, NASA developed a program called the Hazard 230 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Analysis Critical Control Point or h a c c P, 231 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: and the purpose of a a c c P was 232 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: to prevent food safety issues by employing a seven steps 233 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: science space system when preparing food, and this system is 234 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: now a requirement in the US for all meat, seafood, poultry, 235 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and juice processors. By the way, the first meal ever 236 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: eaten in space was by the Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin 237 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: in April of nineteen sixty one, and it consisted of 238 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: a tube of beef and liver paste and then a 239 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: tube of chocolate sauce for dessert. You've got to have dessert, 240 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: you did even in space. Um, the Friendship seven. In 241 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, John Glenn became the first American to 242 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: eat in space, and the historic first food he consumed 243 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: was apple sauce. Yeah, and period beef and vegetables, both 244 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: squeezed appetizingly out of aluminum tubes sort of like a 245 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: little toothpaste tube share sucked up through a straw that 246 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: fit into a porthole in Glenn's helmet. A nineteen sixty 247 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: two New York Times article documented what seems like every 248 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: detail extensively, including the exact time he started in on 249 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: his first tube, and the food was described thusly. His 250 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: two course meal consisted of a beef vegetable mixture and 251 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: apple sauce. His squeeze food was semi solid, which means 252 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: it was pretty much like baby food, but with adult 253 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: seasoning okay and sugar added, and with the flexible to 254 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: and nozzle. Colonel Glenn did not run into the exasperation 255 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: of catchup bottleneck, for who among us has not struggled 256 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: but catch up bottleneck. The aluminum tube was developed by 257 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: the American Canned Company Container Scientist. These tubes have been 258 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: developed by the company in the nineteen forties for World 259 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: War two fighter pilots. All this stuff was and would 260 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: continue to be, based on military survival rations. It was 261 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of crazy frontier science. Though. One of Glenn's missions 262 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: while he was up there was to see whether he 263 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: could sip water. What if he couldn't have he could, 264 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: but he got it. It would have been a sad 265 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: day for space travel. Oh my goodness, talent you um. 266 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: He His flight also marked the first leftovers in space, 267 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: a tube of spaghetti that he chose not to eat. 268 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: I wonder why, I don't know. A year earlier, in 269 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one, Whirlpool Whirlpool Corporation, Yes that Whirlpool, showed 270 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: off their space kitchen at a convention. This thing was 271 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: a compact ten by seven point five foot cylinder or 272 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: three by two meters, and it had a refrigerator, freezer disposal, 273 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and water system made to last the food and drink 274 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: needs for fourteen day mission. They fulfilled over three hundred 275 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: contracts with their space kitchen from nineteen fifty seven to 276 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. Okay, yeah. In nineteen sixty three, a 277 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: scientist named Sydney A. Schwartz came up with an idea 278 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: of making space capsules either entirely or partly out of 279 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: edible materials. Okay, Willy Wonka scene, all right, yep, it 280 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: was a spacecraft made out of food. A Newsweek article 281 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: out of that year purports that he came up with 282 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: a recipe of five dollars worth of groceries like cornstarch, flour, 283 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: banana flakes, hominy, powdered milk that could be baked up 284 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: in a four degree hydraulic press with three thousand pounds 285 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: of pressure, and the result was a slab that didn't 286 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: splinter when drilled into or solid and for space travel. 287 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Shorts suggested it as a cheap material for things like cabinets, 288 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: and yes, you could eat it. You um, you just 289 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: added water after you've ground up the slab in the powder. 290 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Shwortz claimed it tasted like banana topped cereal. Interesting idea. 291 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: I like the creativity. That's great. Yeah, Well, moving on 292 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: from edible spacecraft, that's the ultimate space food. For the 293 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: mid sixties Jim and I Apollo and Mercury missions, astronauts 294 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: were given dehydrated and freeze dried cubes along with the tubes. 295 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: These bite sized cubes were meant to provide an eating 296 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: experience closer to Earth's and they came coated in in 297 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: edible film that kept crumbs, those troublesome crumbs from floating 298 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: about and mucking things up. And they came with nozzles 299 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: at the edge of the pouch and instructions on how 300 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: much water you needed to rehydrate. In nineteen sixty four 301 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times articled detailed some of the complications and 302 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: necessities for designing food for space. No carbonation because at 303 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: low pressure and high altitudes gas expands into your belly. 304 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: The whole crumb issue getting the right balance of nutrients. 305 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: The general girl at the time was sevent protein, carbon, hydrates, 306 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: and fat, and of the moisture was removed to reduce 307 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: weight and prevent sooiliage. There was also transport and space 308 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: constraints along with the balancing of the psychological need to eat, 309 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: as the article described it, that's one of the reasons 310 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: the idea of food and pill form was rejected and 311 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: the food didn't taste great. The first astronaut to try 312 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: the freeze dried stuff, Gordon Cooper, only eight six of 313 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: his two thousand, three sixty nine calories for a thirty 314 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: four hour mission. Who and all the astronauts of the 315 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three Mercury mission returned with uneaten food. The 316 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Soviets developed a wider menu a little bit more quickly 317 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: than Americans, although they stuck largely with the tube delivery 318 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: system UM. They expanded to thirty options thirty of tubes 319 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: in those early years, and and also offered um some other, 320 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: some other actual kind of solid food, rolls that could 321 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: be eaten in a single bite, pieces of salami, and 322 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: drinks like berry juice and beet juice. By the time 323 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: the nineteen six five Gemini mission rolled around, they were 324 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: given more variety the American anyway. From that same Los 325 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Angeles Times article, the two thousand calorie four meal a 326 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: day sample menu might look something like this meal a 327 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: sugar frosted flakes, sausage patties, toast squares and orange grapefruit juice, meal, bee, tuna, salad, cheese, sandwiches, 328 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: apricot pudding and grape juice. You'll see beef, pot rose, 329 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: carrots and cream, sauce, toasted bread cubes, pineapple cubes and 330 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: tea and meal d potato, soup, chicken bits, squares, apple sauce, brownies, 331 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: and grape fruit juice grapefruit juice near twice popular. The 332 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: astronauts injected the pouches with water from the water gun 333 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: and needed it to the proper consistency, cut open the 334 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: pouch to get to a plastic tube for squeezing out 335 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: the food, and then once finished, sealed it again with 336 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a tablet inside that prevented rotting. You really didn't want that. 337 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: Each meal came with two sticks of gum and a 338 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: towel soaked with an antibacterial substance. Yes, these packages could 339 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: last two years at least. And then John W. Young 340 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: snuck a corned beef sandwich aboard the GYMNI three in 341 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: n first sandwich in space yep, and it necessitated a 342 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: mandatory astronaut inventory before each mission. Mannessa was so displeased 343 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: about it. They were really were They were not entertained. Nope. 344 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: The apollomissions um, the first one to line on the Moon, 345 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: saw even greater leaps in terms of taste of space food. 346 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: The new space amenity hot water made rehydrating foods easier 347 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and faster, and then improved the flavor. Sure, hot hot 348 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: foods are hot sometimes, yeah, which is awesome. Another innovation 349 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: was the spoon bowl, which is what it sounds like. 350 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: The food stuck to the spoon thanks to the moisture 351 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: left over from rehydration. That's cool. Wet packs aluminium or 352 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: plastic pouches that kept food moist and didn't require rehydration 353 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: were introduced as well, and then a follow seven. This 354 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: is the mission with perhaps one of the most famous 355 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: space foods astronaut ice cream, freeze dried ice cream. Yes, yes, 356 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: it was a crew request of the Night mission, but 357 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: freeze dried ice cream only made one trip to space. 358 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Why m hmm, because most of the crew didn't like it. 359 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: The texture was all around, the taste kind of flaw. 360 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: They said it was like styrofoam. I mean it was. 361 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't like ice cream at all. But it's great. 362 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: As a kid, I loved this stuff so much. I 363 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: haven't had it in like decades, but I'm not sure 364 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: i've ever had it. Is diffing dots? Is that what 365 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: that is? No? Okay, well then that's what I've had. 366 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I haven't had the I've seen it. It's like a 367 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: block of Neapolitan ice cream. Okay, we'll have to get some. Okay, 368 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm down. The crew of Apollo eight enjoyed thermos stabilized 369 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: turkey and gravy, cranberry sauce and fruitcake on Christmas Eve 370 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight as they orbited around the Moon. What 371 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: a great great view while you have your turkey, thermos 372 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: stabilized turkey, all the comforts of home. I know. The 373 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: beloved bacon square was the first food item consumed on 374 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: the Moon in nineteen sixty nine, and moon diets had 375 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: to be high in potassium to prevent any irregularities and 376 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: heart rhythm. I don't know if the bacon cue helped 377 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: with that, but perhaps it did. The first Russian cosmonauts 378 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: had food options, harkening back to the first American missions, mostly, 379 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: like Lawrence said, out of tubes. Mr dried on later missions. 380 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: In nineteen one, a Russian cosmonauts celebrated the birthday of 381 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Victor Pots with tubes of prune paste and a smuggled 382 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: lemon and onion. What a birthday more smuggling, I know. 383 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Apollo eleven introduced a contingency feeding system of liquids eaten 384 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: through an opening in the helmet should the cabin become depressurized. Yeah, 385 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: a canteen that granted astronauts um of drinking water. I wrote, 386 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: granted of drinking water while working on the Moon was 387 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: added to the space suits for a follow thirteen and 388 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Apollo fifteen moonwalkers were given africat bars to tide them 389 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: over a while on the lunar surface. This was also 390 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: the first mission that had no leftovers props to them. 391 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Before Apollo, the average weight loss per astronaut was three 392 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: to four pounds, sometimes up to ten pounds, although that 393 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: doesn't just have to do with with a lack of 394 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: food intake. Of course, the muscle wasting. They hadn't quite 395 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: figured out how to how to combat that or even 396 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: what was going on at that point yet. Um As 397 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: of nineteen nine, though, NASA's space food still left a 398 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: little bit of something to be desired. After living on 399 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Apollo programmed food for three days, NASA Spacecraft project manager 400 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: Don Arabian reported that he had quote lost the will 401 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: to live and that the sausage patties tasted like granulated rubber. 402 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like something I would enjoy either, But 403 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: more innovations were coming. Yes. The next big thing in 404 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: space food occurred with the nineteen seventy three Skylab mission, 405 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: which came with a designated dining area, so astronauts could 406 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: sit down thanks to foot straps, at a table and eat, 407 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: and with the help of solar powered cells, Skylab was 408 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: the first to have a freezer and refrigeration. This meant 409 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: more choice for the astronauts seventy two more choices. In fact, 410 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: warming trays debut on this mission. To These trays could 411 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: be attached via vel grow to the astronauts lab or 412 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: to the wall, and they allowed for eating several things 413 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: at once without the tray, and opened pouch had to 414 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: be finished off before you could open an other one. 415 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: Astronauts could even design their own menu as long as 416 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: it met the requirements of a dietitian, and liquid salt 417 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: and pepper were introduced on this mission. The standard menu 418 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: cycled every seven days, and setting up a meal at 419 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: this time took thirty minutes. Sky Lab also had a 420 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: pantry with an extra two thousand, one hundred calories for 421 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: two days for each person in the case of bad 422 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: weather or another event that unexpectedly extended the mission. There's 423 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: also a backup with enough food to last the crew 424 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: for three weeks, called the safe Haven system. During the 425 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: American Soviet mission of nineteen seventy five astronauts eight things 426 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: like jellied beef, tongue, borshed and caviare. And then in Nive, 427 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: a Mexican payload specialist by the name of Faldo nari 428 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: Vela introduced a serious innovation to his fellow NASA Space 429 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: Shuttle astronauts, the flower tortilla. What after he requested them 430 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: for his mission and they were a hit with the 431 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: other astronauts. NASA set to developing a more long lasting 432 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: version of the tortilla, you know, so things could be 433 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: shelf stable for a few months. Um. They wound up 434 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: using tortillas from a manufacturer that sells to Taco Bell, 435 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: which had come out with a twelve month shelf stable 436 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: product in the nineteen nineties. Um, though they say that 437 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: they do use fresh tortillas for short missions. Astronauts Sandra 438 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Magnus wrote in two thousand eight, I cannot think of 439 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: anything that cannot be put on a tortilla or has 440 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: not been put on a tortilla. You really want to 441 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: be swimming in tortillas for your whole increment? Wow, passionate 442 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: feelings about tortillas in space I understand as the duration 443 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: of missions lengthened. New packaging was developed, a trash compactor 444 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: was developed. Yeah in the galley was redesigned, and the 445 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: electronics updated. Both the weight and volume were reduced. Coca 446 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Cola experimented with ways to get the perfect carbonated beverage 447 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: in space, despite that whole weird gas expansion thing um 448 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: on space Shuttle missions in the eighties and nineties, sending 449 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: space cans and a soda fountain. They haven't quite got 450 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: it right yet, though. The carbon dioxide bubbles and stuff 451 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: like SODA's mixed randomly with the surrounding liquid when it's 452 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: in space, meaning that they're usually more like foam than 453 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: they are drink And unfortunately, even if you can get 454 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: it right and you know, like drink it, carbonation really 455 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: isn't cool in near zero gravity. Um On on Earth, 456 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: gravity draws the liquid in a coke or you know, 457 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: like a beer or whatever, to the bottom of your stomach, 458 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: while the carbon dioxide gases will rise to the top 459 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: and come out in burps. In in low gravity, though, 460 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: the liquid in the air mix and your burps come 461 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: out wet, oh or the gases pass into your digestive system, 462 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: which might cause adverse effects. Neither of which I'm not 463 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: even sure which one I want less, I'll take neither. Yes, 464 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: thank you neither for the wind. Nowadays, the category of 465 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: space food has expanded so much. From period paste squeezed 466 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: from tubes. For each six months spent on I S S, 467 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: crew members get to choose in nine preference containers. I 468 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: like the sound of that, from a main menu of 469 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: over two items. Those items run the gambit from Japanese takeout, 470 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Swedish meatballs, tortillas, space kimchi, and the ever popular shrimp cocktail. 471 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: NASA has sixty thermo stabilized foods and fifty freeze dried 472 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: products under their belt, and famous chefs like Emerald Lagassi 473 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: have helped create some space food recipes. On Holiday's crew 474 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: has allowed special request and they get special treat packages 475 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: and by friends or families called psychological support kits. Charles 476 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Simionium paid sixty million for two visits to the I 477 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: S S and two thousand six two thousand seven. He's 478 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: a rich software guy fy I, and he brought with 479 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: him m duck breast quail and Similina cake prepared by 480 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Elaine Ducas. That's probably the fanciest meal consumed in space 481 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: to date, and an unmanned resupply rocket carrying six pounds 482 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: of equipment in one thousand, three hundred sixty pounds of 483 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: food exploded in October. Yeah, that kind of hurt my 484 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: heart when I read it. Yeah, in the first Italian 485 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: woman to go to space, as Samantha Christopher Ready drank 486 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: the first legit space espresso on the I S s um. 487 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: The machine was a joint experiment by the Italian Space Agency, 488 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: engineering firm Agritech Yes and UH coffee company Lavasa. The 489 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: project took two years to complete. Of course, it can 490 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: also make hot tea and consumm a um. But but 491 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: even though the system is way different than earth bound machines, 492 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: you can even get a waft of coffee scent from 493 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: your cup or the pouch. The pouches designed to emit 494 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: odor when you insert your straw. That sounds gross, but 495 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: I bet it's lovely. It's just a weird way to 496 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: think about it. The pouch omits odor. And with that 497 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: we do have some more for you, including booze in space. 498 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Has it been there? Of course it has. But first 499 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: we're going to take another quick break for a word 500 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: from our sponsor and we're back, Thank you sponsor. Okay, 501 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: So booze in space. Obviously, you don't want a bunch 502 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: of astronauts floating around drunk while they're supposed to be, 503 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, sciencing and like staying alive. But of course 504 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: there's been booze in space of course. UM. Russian cosmonauts 505 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: had cognac and their rations during the early days of 506 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: the space age. UM One reported that their doctors had 507 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: recommended it. Uh quote we we used. We used it 508 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: to stimulate our immune system and on the whole to 509 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: keep our organisms in tone, in tone. The first liquid 510 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: poured and perhaps consumed on the Moon was actually wine. 511 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: Buzz Aldren, who was an elder at his Presbyterian church, 512 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: arranged to take communion on the Sunday that he and 513 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong landed on the Moon. Before they left the 514 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: lunar module, he took the wine and bread and radioed 515 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: a message back to Earth. It wound up not being 516 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: broadcast due to some pr trouble that NASA was having 517 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: regarding separation of church and state. Um. But what he 518 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: said was, I would like to request a few moments 519 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: of silence and to invite each person listening in wherever 520 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: and whomever they may be, to pause for a moment 521 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: and contemplate the events of the past few hours, and 522 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: to give thanks in his or her own way, which 523 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: I think is lovely. Yeah. Um. In the early seventies, 524 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: with the sky Lab overhaul of the NASA menu, food 525 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: researchers tried their darndest to include wine with their menu offerings, 526 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: a four ounce ration every four days. They settled on 527 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: sherry because, as it's already been heated during production, they 528 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: figured it would be the least damaged by the space 529 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: packaging process. But the plan went seriously sideways. Uh. First 530 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: of all, when public. When the public got wind of 531 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: the idea, um, some some people got really upset. They 532 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: didn't like the concept of astronauts, these these you know, 533 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: these all American heroes that are children are watching. They 534 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't like the thought of them drinking. Secondly, when NASA 535 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: tested the sherry on a low gravity plane, um, let 536 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: me let me quote Charles Borland, a space food engineer, 537 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: The odors were leased by the wine, combined with the 538 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: residual smell of years worth of people getting sick on 539 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: the plane, had an unplanned effect on the crew. Many 540 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: grabbed for their bath bags. The sherry was not sent 541 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: to space. NASA would later outlaw any drinking in space 542 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: from its astronauts, and the official I S S statement 543 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: on booze in space is that because alcohol is a 544 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: volatile compound, astronauts drinking could muss up their water recycling program, 545 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: but that does not preclude alcohol from being used experimentally. 546 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: One microbiology project out of the University of Colorado, through 547 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: NASA's Space Product Development, brewed a wee batch of beer 548 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: in space. Huh. It's east cell count was kind of low, 549 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: and there was more of one of the yeast's proteins 550 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: than usual. The researchers aren't sure why that's interesting. More 551 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: they think it might be like a stress response protein. 552 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: The east were like, I know, right, or feeling something 553 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: for use this interesting. Whiskey maker Art Beg sent a 554 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: few vials of Scotch whiskey distillate plus oak shaving oak 555 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: cask shavings up to the I S S to see 556 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: how microgravity would affect the flavors pulled from barrels during aging. 557 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: And yes, the shavings part is unusual. Don't worry. They 558 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: also kept a few vials on Earth as a control. 559 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Near zero gravity seemed to inhibit the extraction of some 560 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: compounds from the wood, leading to an unusual balance of 561 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: flavor compounds overall in the whiskey. Um. When they tested 562 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: both samples back on Earth, yes, they drank the space whiskey. 563 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: The Earth sample smelled and tasted like art beg um. 564 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: The space sample was basically totally different. And Okay, I'm 565 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna quote the kind of extensive tasting notes from both 566 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: samples because it's just super fascinating to me. Okay, So, 567 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: Earth sample aroma very woody, hints of cedar, sweet smoke 568 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: and aged balsamic vinegar, hints of raisins, chuckle, toffee of 569 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: vanilla and burnt oranges. Taste dry palette, woody balsamic flavor, 570 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: sweet smoke and clove oil, a distant fruitiness, prunes, dates, uh, 571 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: some charcoal and antiseptic notes. The aftertaste is long, lingering 572 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 1: and typically ard beg, with flavors of gentle smoke, briarwood, tar, 573 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: and some sweet creamy fudge. Sounds lovely um from the 574 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: I s s sample aroma intense and rounded with notes 575 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: of antiseptic smoke, rubber, smoked fish, and a curious, perfumed 576 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: note like a cassius or violet, powerful woody notes, hints 577 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: of graphite and some vanilla. This then leads into very 578 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: earthy soil notes, a savory beefy aroma, and then hints 579 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: of rum and raisin flavored ice cream taste a very 580 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: focused flavor profile with smoked fruits, prunes, raisins, sugar plums 581 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: and cherries, earthy pete, smoke, peppermint, aniseed cinnamon, and smoked 582 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: bacon or hickory smoked ham. The aftertaste is pungent, intense, 583 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: and long, with hints of wood, antiseptic lozenges and rubbery smoke. 584 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: Robbery smoke. I mean, that's a lot of word salad, 585 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: but like, but they were just distinctly different, and I 586 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: think that's great. Yeah, space whiskey science. That's some fascinating 587 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: science right there. Yeah, more research is clearly necessary and 588 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: uh one one study with with rats from suggested that 589 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: a compound founded red wines um reservera troll could help 590 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: astronauts stave off the muscle waste that happens without rigorous 591 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: exercise in low gravity and environments. UM so maybe in 592 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: the future with longer space missions, bringing along a little 593 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: bit of wine wouldn't be considered it superfluous. Let us 594 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: all forget about supplements. Yeah, yeah, forget about those things. 595 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: But hey, speaking of the future, let's talk about the future. Yes. 596 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: So now that NASA and other space traveling intoity are 597 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: planning missions with even longer durations, like um, I don't know, 598 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 1: mission to Mars. One of the main goals is to 599 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: take the current eighteen months shelf life of foods and 600 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: extend it to five years. Yeah. One option that NASA 601 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: is looking at would have crew members building a hydroponic 602 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: growth lab and growing fresh produce inside. This would be 603 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: a solution for menu fatigue, which on a year plus 604 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: long mission becomes a real concern. Cooking in space, however, 605 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: really difficult, if not impossible, thanks to that whole gravity thing, 606 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: along with the host of energy and space considerations like 607 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: like area space not space. Yeah, I didn't even think 608 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: about that. The journey to Mars would take about two 609 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: and a half years, by the way, and require somewhere 610 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: around twelve tons of food. Yes, people eat man, that's crazy, okay, Yeah, 611 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: potentially sent to Mars separately before the human crew takes off. 612 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: UM A form experiment conducted examined that the implications and 613 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: limitations of astronauts cooking their own food. The stipulations were 614 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: among the six crew members. Food could only be cooked 615 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: on certain days, only shelf stable products like honey our 616 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: rice could be used, and only a limited amount of 617 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: energy expanded on things like a hot plate. All the 618 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: participants preferred days when they cook something because they said 619 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: it allowed for creativity and social bonding. A few projects 620 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: have been looking into three D printing as a potential 621 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: solution to cooking in space. That the basic idea is 622 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: that you could use good old tubes of food stuff 623 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: as ingredients and that that the printer could make those 624 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: into different dishes. We'll have to do a whole episode 625 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: about about three D food printing sometime. Yes, it's pretty great. 626 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm so on board with red romaine. Lettuce became the 627 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: first crop grown and eaten space. Three crew members toasted 628 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: their lettuce after dipping the pieces in olive oil. I know, 629 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: and they were quite satisfied with the taste. I do 630 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: remember when this happened being in the news. Longer missions 631 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: also expand on the nutrient deficiency problem, like shrinking bones 632 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: and squashed eyeballs. I didn't look into that, but I 633 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: saw it and it scared me. Oh yeah, my microgravity 634 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: does things to your eyeballs that I don't want squashed eyeballs. 635 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't want like astronauts getting that that. This sounds terrible. No, no, no, 636 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: no one, No one deserves a squashed eyeball. Um, there's 637 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: if there's anything we've learned from Game of Thrones. Uh. 638 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: By the way, UM, if you are interested in the 639 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: kind of history part of all of this, there's a 640 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: really terrific textbook called The Astronauts Cookbook that was co 641 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: written by um, by that guy I quoted earlier about 642 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: the about the Sherry Um who worked in NASA's space 643 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: food program for thirty years. So he has a lot 644 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: of stories in there. Look it up, check it out. 645 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: And other than that, that wraps up our episode on 646 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: space food. Yeah, that was a crash course and that 647 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: concludes this classic episode where many space puns were made, 648 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: sound effects were had. Welcome back Food, Astronauts to the 649 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: here and now. We hope you had an excellent journey 650 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: on spaceship saver spaceships, what a weird spaceship it would be, 651 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: but fun. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Um. 652 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: If you would like to contact us, as always, we 653 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. Our email is hello 654 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: at saver pod dot com. 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