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Speaker 1: Here we go another episode of the official show. It's

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Speaker 1: Eli Sussman, managing editor of Fish Stripes. Here it's my

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Speaker 1: favorite time of the year. We're approaching opening day of

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Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins regular season. So for this episode, let's

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Speaker 1: welcome one of my favorites, my favorite Marlins analysts. He's

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Speaker 1: a Fish Stripes alum. Arm leyden is a minor league

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Speaker 1: play by play broadcaster who hosts the exceptional daily podcast

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a big fight for people to get

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Speaker 1: your attention. Hey, Aram, thanks for joining me with this

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of a very busy time.

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Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for having me on. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I was hoping I'd get one little opportunity to hop

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Speaker 2: on a podcast and not mention Bill Barr rock Otto,

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Speaker 2: But you know what we got it out there. It's

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Speaker 2: checked off now and they get a free promo there.

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Speaker 2: But it's so funny. It's hilarious. All my friends come

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Speaker 2: and joke about the same thing. But I'm so pumped

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Speaker 2: to go through some of these bold predictions. You were

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Speaker 2: talking about it before. Sometimes we're lucky to get one right,

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Speaker 2: So let's see if either of us could get one

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Speaker 1: Probably every single year at some point I done this,

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Speaker 1: but I think always an article form instead of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, ran it by you, because I mean, if

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Speaker 1: anybody follows the team and really applies outside of the

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Speaker 1: Marlins for any sport and any team, you got your

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Speaker 1: bold predictions. And everybody defines that term differently when we

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Speaker 1: talk about bold predictions, I mean, for me, they're ones

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Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna happen. But I can see a

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Speaker 1: path to what happening based on the intuition you have

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Speaker 1: But with every person. You know, it's a different tolerance

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Speaker 1: for how bold you want to go and how much

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Speaker 1: you care about being right or not. And we're going

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Speaker 1: to do five each, you and me, and as you

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Speaker 1: suggest that even minor league stuff is fair game, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't even want to see them ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: I want you to just spring them on me so

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Speaker 1: we could react in real time and process these. We'll

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Speaker 1: go back and forth one at a time. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: what your first bold prediction is for these twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So now I'm a little scared because I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'm not bold enough. But I, like we mentioned,

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Speaker 2: based on what you say. But for number one here

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Speaker 2: But the thing is is he doesn't have bad splits

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty much on board with that. Not one

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Speaker 1: I'll start with my minor league one as kind of

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Speaker 1: related to that on the award front, where every year

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Speaker 2: I think you hit on a lot of really good

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Speaker 2: something that easily could have stumped me at one point too,

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Speaker 2: is who got drafted first, Burdick or Meisner in their

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got five tool potential, and I agree.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch him this year. He's definitely not

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Speaker 2: to scatter the lefties. But regard I think Dickerson's going

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Speaker 2: to be more aggressive. I've loved what we saw from

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Speaker 2: But you know, the question for him is he going

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Speaker 2: that's an All Star caliber player and he's capable of it.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it. I just really hope he's more aggressive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you touched on it with the power being that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that one too. And we do mention

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Speaker 2: So he's shown the stuff. He's shown the swing of

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Speaker 2: be really cool to see him put it together. Zach Pop,

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Speaker 2: question that you positioned on on the lockedown you know

434
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Speaker 2: podcast for me when I did the mail bag, because

435
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: that kind of leads me into my fourth prediction because

436
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: it all kind of factors in and it piggybacks off

437
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Speaker 2: of this. But I'm going to say, you know, the

438
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: Marlins finish also as a team top five in the

439
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: National League and ERA, and I might even should I

440
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: go bolder than that? Is that not bold enough? Because

441
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 2: because I'll take it a step further, what should we say?

442
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: Top top three? Is that crazy?

443
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: Is that just among National League teams? Yeah? Top five

444
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: among the.

445
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Speaker 2: Day, we'll say top three among NL teams, then let's

446
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: do it. That's better. Yeah, And I'll tell you why.

447
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: And it's your question kind of jogged that in my mind.

448
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: Is So I had my concerns about this Marlins bullpen,

449
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 2: and I do think that you know, it's not going

450
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: to be the best swing and miss bullpen ever, and

451
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: I'd like to get some guys in there that that

452
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: get some more swings and misses. That's just bullpen one

453
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: on one nowadays. But like I do like the fact

454
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 2: that the balls are dead. And as you pointed out,

455
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: and something that you've pointed out on your Twitter that

456
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: I've noticed is that this Marlins defense has been performing.

457
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: It's been really darned good. So your pair of the

458
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: fact that the Marlins defense has been good, the Marlins

459
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: rotation is undoubtedly a solid rotation. It's just how good

460
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: is it going to be? Is the question. And in

461
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: this in this hot take, in this universe where things

462
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: are happening at a ridiculous success rate for the Marlins,

463
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that it's a really, really good rotation.

464
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: But what I like about the bullpen and I think

465
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: it's a very tangible plan that the Marlins have right

466
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: now is that they're while they're not able to get

467
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: some of those big swing and miss guys, they're going

468
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: for the sinker ballers. They're going for the guys that

469
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Speaker 2: get a lot of ground balls. You pointed out, Pablo

470
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: gets a lot of ground balls. Richard Blier gets as

471
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: many ground balls as anybody. Anthony Bass gets a lot

472
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: of ground balls. Still in Floro gets quite a few

473
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: ground balls, Curtis as well, and then Sandy gets a ton.

474
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: You got six to zero heavy ground ball rate guy, Pablo,

475
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: same thing. And so when I think you consider all

476
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: of those guys and the fact that the Marlins have

477
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: a really good defense as it's shaping up to be

478
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: duvall being added into the fold in the outfield is

479
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: huge too, as opposed to a Garrett Cooper out there.

480
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that could end up

481
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: keeping that era in check. With the pitching talent they have,

482
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: with the way it aligns with their ballpark, which I

483
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: think it's pretty clear that they're going for those ground

484
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: ball heavy pitchers, and the fact that you know their

485
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: defense is looking really strong. You pair all that together

486
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Speaker 2: and I think you've got a chancefer a team with

487
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: a very very low era that should be in a

488
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: lot of ball games. Whether they win a lot or not,

489
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: it'll be remained to be seen, but I think every

490
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: single game will be pretty close for the most part.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here with our special guests with his special

492
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Speaker 1: Bold predictions are in Leyden, host of Locked on Marlins

493
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: and Locked on MLB Prospects podcast, Fish Stripes, a Lump

494
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: and one that kind of yeah, ties together some of

495
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: the things we've already been talking about about the depth

496
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: that this organization has with all these guys that have

497
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: some similar aspects that you can, yeah, you can see

498
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: a scenario where they all kind of are in sync

499
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: and they all they all really get the very best

500
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: out of themselves this year because of the environment that

501
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: they're in and with an organization that is trying to

502
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: optimize the skill set that they have, even if it's

503
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: they're not perfect pitching skill sets and even if they're

504
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: not perfect defensive players, getting the very best out of them.

505
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Speaker 1: For my number four bold prediction, going back to the

506
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: position player side, Jazz Chisholm. I think he's going to

507
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: hit twenty plus home runs for the Marlins this year,

508
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: and I feel that's bold because I mean, at least

509
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: as of this recording, he would if you had to

510
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Speaker 1: make a guess, he's probably right behind Eson Dias in

511
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: that competition for the second base job, if you had

512
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: to pick one to be on the opening day roster.

513
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: This is something that the community has discussed a lot

514
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: over the past few weeks, the competition between them and Spring.

515
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: It's such tiny sample size, but in terms of just

516
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: the circumstances with Eson being someone that has nothing left

517
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: to prove in the minor leagues, being someone that is

518
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: several years older, that in the fact that he's a

519
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: left handed hitter, he works deeper counts, he has more

520
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: experienced that there's like a lot of reasons that would

521
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: seem to suggest he's going to be on the opening

522
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: day roster. He's going to get that first shot to

523
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: be playing pretty much every day at second base, and

524
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: that Jazz is blocked, and that he'll go down to

525
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: first alternate training site and then ultimately Triplea to develop

526
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: behind them until an opportunity arises. I mean, so part

527
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: of this is my expectation that Jazz will get up

528
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: pretty soon to the major leagues, and it could be

529
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: variety of reasons. It could be because Yon struggles. I mean, I,

530
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: probably more so than other people, was really concerned with

531
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: what I saw in twenty nineteen, his first year in

532
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: the majors, both offensively and defensively in spring training. This year,

533
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: he's put a lot of those defensive concerns to rest.

534
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: He's made a variety of really excellent defensive plays that

535
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was capable of, and that makes

536
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: his case. While he'll be on the team first, but

537
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: ultimately I'm not convinced of him holding down that spot

538
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: at a really high level. And it's also a little

539
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: bit of skepticism about Miguel Rojas, someone that we're not

540
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: that far removed from being a utility player, and we

541
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: accept him as the leader of this team, and he's

542
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: now merged as every day shorts up on this team,

543
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: coming off an extraordinary year when he was actually healthy

544
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: and able to play over the course of a full

545
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two game season, a guy that's

546
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: now thirty two years old. I don't know that he's

547
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: going to be playing shortstop every single day by the

548
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: time this year gets through. So between either of those,

549
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: maybe the miraculous addition of the DH to the National League.

550
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be opportunities for Jazz to get

551
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: hundreds at least half a season of played appearances at

552
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: the major league level. And once he gets there, I'm

553
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: not saying he's going to be a superstar immediately. I

554
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be in contention for

555
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. I don't know what this means

556
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: for him long term, but I am wowed by the

557
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: kind of raw power that he has and the aggressiveness

558
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: that he has. Early incounts to ambush certain pitches, and

559
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: so he's someone that in the minor leagues, facing much

560
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: older competition, He's put up some pretty big home run

561
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: numbers for someone his size, someone that he's even smaller

562
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: than I am. He's not a huge physical specimen, but

563
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: his bat speed is extraordinary. Just as we're recording this,

564
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: he had the hardest hit ball of all of spring

565
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: training for a Marlins player, one hundred and thirteen miles

566
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: per hour off the bat, a home run. He's in

567
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: in spring training. We've seen him go. We've seen him

568
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: between this and his call up last year. He hits

569
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: homers down the left field line. He hits, homers down

570
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: the right field line, he could go to literally all fields.

571
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: The raw power is exceptional, and once he gets up

572
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: in the majors, he's someone that I feel could get

573
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities high in the lineup as well,

574
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: even though he doesn't have the resume of some of

575
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: these other hitters that they enter the season with. I mean,

576
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: as I've hinted at before, I'm not necessarily confident in

577
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: the team being in contention. As we get relatively deep

578
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: into the summer, you could see trades of these veteran

579
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: outfielders and other positions that create a void near the

580
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: top of the order for someone like Jazz, who, aside

581
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: from this power, has really great speed as well, and

582
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: we could see this pretty quickly turn into a we

583
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: want to make it back to the playoffs again. Here

584
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: to a developmental year, and during its developmental year, as

585
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: we saw not that long ago in twenty nineteen, that

586
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: you see some funky stuff. You see Lewis Brentson batting

587
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: lead off. You see guys that don't necessarily have long

588
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: track records getting opportunities to prove themselves. The Modelins have

589
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: a lot invested in Jazz trading away Zach Gallen to

590
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: get him being someone that was handpicked almost literally hand

591
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: picked by Derek Jeter as someone that they thought had

592
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: star level upside. So I think he, even more so

593
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: than Isan, as this year plays out, will get a

594
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: ton of opportunities and if nothing else, I think he's

595
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: going to put on a good firework show. One of

596
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: the home run leaders on the team, and at the

597
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: very least my number for him, my magic number is

598
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: twenty plus home runs.

599
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: I think he reaches that. I mean, I hope you're right,

600
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: because I mean, a guy like Jazz, you know, he

601
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: starts playing well all of a sudden, he's a fan favorite.

602
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he's electric. As you said, he's exciting, he's

603
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: fun to watch. The talent's there. It's just you kind

604
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: of alluded to it right over the aggression and the ambushing.

605
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: It can be a blessing and a curse. It's great

606
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: when they leave it over the middle. It's bad when

607
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: they don't. Because you're quickly in pitchers counts right, and

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: I think that's something that we've seen a lot with Chisholmoss.

609
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: He finds himself behind owing two quite frequently because of

610
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: that over aggress approach. I almost wouldn't mind, especially if

611
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: they get to the point where the Marlins are in

612
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: that like developmental aspect to the season where they're not

613
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: competitive anymore. And I'm hoping that's not the case, and

614
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: you never know, but if they do get to that point,

615
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind Jazz in the leadoff spot because at

616
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: that point, you know, they got to throw strikes to him.

617
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: You're not gonna just walk Jazz. You know, the rest

618
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: of the Marlins lineup is good enough at this point

619
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: where you're not just gonna put a speedy guy on

620
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: base and go through it. So I would love to

621
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: see him in a position where he can ambush and

622
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: and where he's hitting in the order would facilitate that.

623
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: And if that does happen, then the twenty home runs

624
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent within reason, and I think that's

625
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: a really a really good one. This one, for me

626
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: is a minor league guy, and and it's it's a

627
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: homer pick for sure. But but I will say that

628
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: there are some reasons behind me saying this, But you

629
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: mentioning Cameron Meisner as the Marlins Minor League offensive player

630
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: of the Year, I'm gonna take my Buddy Griffin CO

631
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: nine Offensive Player of the Year of the Marlins minor leagues,

632
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 2: and uh, he's probably gonna kill me for even saying this,

633
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 2: but you know, he's he's enjoying the under the radar

634
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: aspects right now because I could just tell you he's

635
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: been working really, really hard, just as a lot of

636
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: people are, but so hard in the in the mental

637
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: aspect of it. You know, I think that the strikeouts

638
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: really bothered him, but people forget you know, yeah, he

639
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: struck out a lot, but he hit twenty two home

640
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: runs in like eighty games in the Midwest. He led them,

641
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: led led the Midwest League in home runs in half

642
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: the season. I mean, you got to be able to

643
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: hit to do that. Albeit it was an a level

644
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: and and we need to see him do it through

645
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: the higher levels. But you know, he's made a lot

646
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: of changes with his swing to shorten up to be

647
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: more efficient. Uh, he's still He's been studying a lot

648
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: of you know, the best big strong guy similar builds

649
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: to him in the game and the moves that they

650
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: make that allow them to make more frequent contact. I

651
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: think like in Nick Castillanos, Nelson Cruz, those of the

652
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: type of guys that you know you watch just kind

653
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: of see that more simplistic mold to just allow yourself

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: to get into your strength. And that's something that I

655
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: think a lot of big, strong guys tend to have

656
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: a little bit too much movement and they don't need it.

657
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 2: You know, you can have easy power if you're that strong,

658
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to be able to do

659
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: that this year. I think he cuts down on the

660
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: k rate. The home runs we know he's going to get.

661
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: He's going to get his. When it comes to the

662
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: home runs, it's just you know, are the strikeout is

663
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: going to be cut down? And where's the average going

664
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: to be at? But if you're hitting twenty five plus

665
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: home runs, you're gonna be in the contention for Minor

666
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: League Player of the Year regardless. And for him, it's

667
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: just going to be can he make enough contact consistently?

668
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: And I do I'm biased, of course, but I do

669
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: believe that he's going to do that this year, and

670
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: that might be the one I'm the most confident in

671
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: this entire list, I'll be honest.

672
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, you alluded to it that people have

673
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: a very very short memory because they were so excited

674
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: about Griven Conan when they traded to get him for

675
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: obvious reasons for his connection to his father, And at

676
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: this moment it seems to be someone that not top

677
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: of mind just because he's not at Major League Spring training.

678
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a certain number and you can

679
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: only have so many outfielders they invited. I think, like eighteen,

680
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: they a zillion different outfielders in camp, but there's a

681
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: certain limit in terms of guys that can actually play

682
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: at the same time. So just because he's not here

683
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: right now, we've seen a little bit of guys like

684
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Meisner and Verdict and Day. We've seen these other prospects that, yeah,

685
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have much different differences from CO nine in

686
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: terms of like their ultimate potential and their ceiling. It's

687
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: just the ones that have been here at this very moment.

688
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: One that Yeah, as soon as you were teeing that up,

689
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna go with him.

690
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: I knew you knew where I was going with that too.

691
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: But that one is that one comes from a place

692
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: of watching and I do believe in the mental side

693
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: of it too. We talk about Pablo, right, you know,

694
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: and how much of baseball is just like your willingness

695
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: to adjust, and I do think Griffin has a lot

696
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: of that in him too, And you know that's what

697
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: makes scouting so hard, right, I mean, like you can't

698
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: get in between people's ears. So I'm excited, and I

699
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: think the Marlins development system also it was great for

700
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: him to get traded over here. As a friend, I

701
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: was really happy to see him traded over from the

702
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 2: Jays to the Marlins. Not that the Jays do anything wrong,

703
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: but I do think that he's been attested to it,

704
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: and a lot of Marlins prospects that I've interviewed have

705
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: said that the development and the amount of money and

706
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: energy and time that they've invested in the player development

707
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: is very, very obvious, and I think that's going to

708
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: start to pay dividends throughout the Marlins system as we

709
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: continue to see these prospects climb.

710
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: One of the fascinating things this minor league season is

711
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: going to be seeing the differences in players since their

712
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: last minor league season in twenty nineteen. I Mean, a

713
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: great example that's top of mind at the very moment

714
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: is Joe Dunand, someone that was really disappointing the last

715
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: time we saw him in twenty nineteen. He resurfaced in

716
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: the Dominican Winter League this past winter, and from the

717
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: first game I saw him over there, I'm like, wow,

718
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: this is he kind of looked the same, but it

719
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: was so obvious the changes he's made to his game

720
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. He dominated and winter Ball God invites

721
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: his sprint training. As we're recording this, he just had

722
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: a walk off home run and overall he's been one

723
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: of the most productive hitters in spring training and someone

724
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: who I mean, my person. I don't have a personal

725
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: connection to him, but my evaluation of him has changed

726
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: from the last time I saw him because of the

727
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: changes I've seen to his offensive approach and to his

728
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: defense as well. And he was not he was not

729
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: working directly with the team at all in twenty twenty.

730
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: He was.

731
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: It's fascinating in terms of the kind of stuff that

732
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: these players were kind of on their own, and they

733
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: have great resources that they're able to find kind of

734
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: outside of the normal minor league organizational setup, and I

735
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: think he took advantage of them, so Griffin could be

736
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: in that same boat.

737
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: It was Frankly, it's a good point, you know, the

738
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: connections that they have on their own, you know, to

739
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: be able to get get after it and work with

740
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: some of the best baseball minds done in it's in

741
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: the same boat. And it's interesting because for a lot

742
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: of time there players were on their own and it

743
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: was like, you know, what are you going to do

744
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: at that time? How are you going to make the

745
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: most of it? And I'm sure that's an opportunity for

746
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: a lot of people to separate themselves from each other.

747
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: But I got a text from a buddy that's a

748
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Mets fan and he just goes, who the hell is

749
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: Joe denand and and you know, what's his deal? And

750
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: I was like, I wasn't watching the game at this moment.

751
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: I turned it off and I was, you know, just

752
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: getting ready for the podcast. And I look and I'm like,

753
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: you gotta be kidding me, Like there's just no way.

754
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: But it's exciting. I mean, if the Marlins get something here,

755
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: holy crap, would not not be exciting for the Marlins.

756
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean, how how much of a bonus would that

757
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: be to have Dunand turn into the guy that you

758
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: know they thought that he could be when they drafted him.

759
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: As we finish up these bull predictions, armed he gave

760
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: us five, Trevor Rodgers finishing top three in NL Rookie

761
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: the Year voting, Corey Dickerson making the NL All Star Team.

762
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: Big downce back here, Pablo Lopez continuing his extension top

763
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: five and National League Era Marlins as a team ranking

764
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: top three in the National League Era once we pushed

765
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: him up to that bull direction, and then Gryffin Conine

766
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: winning the Organizational Player of the Year, top offensive player

767
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: for me well, Cameron Meisner, my Minor League Player of

768
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: the Year pick, Anthony Bender leading the team and saves,

769
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez receiving NL Syung Award votes, twenty plus home

770
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: runs for Jazz Suism, and We're gonna finish here with

771
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: my number five, which is that we alluded to it

772
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: and I've been tweeting about it. How impressed I've been

773
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: with this Marlins fielding performance in spring training. I don't

774
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: want to overreact to spring trending stuff, but this has

775
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: kind of been I think this has been building for

776
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: years with the direction that the team has been moving

777
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: in terms of like prioritizing up the middle players, and

778
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: so you don't see all them in the major leagues

779
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: right now, but when all is said and done in

780
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season, I think this will be

781
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: the number one fielding team in Major League Baseball in

782
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: terms of defense, whether you want to put a number

783
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: to it, defensive run saved, ultimate zone rating. Yeah, I

784
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: think both those categories that this will be the best

785
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: defense in baseball and the best that maybe we've seen

786
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: in several years, one of the best we've seen in

787
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Marlin's history. I mean, you could go around the diamond

788
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: the Goldglaf finalists on the left side of the infield,

789
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, Miguel Rojas. What Isan Diaz has showed in

790
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: the spring has really opened my eyes. Have been very

791
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: impressed with him, and once he gives way, we know

792
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: that Jazz chishm is someone that's he's gonna be a

793
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Gold Glove finalist of his own very soon, especially at

794
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: either middle endfield spot.

795
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: At first base, I.

796
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Mean Haitius Agelon and Gare Cooper not the most nimble guys,

797
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: but they're really underrated in my opinion in terms of

798
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: some of their fundamentals at that position. I mean, across

799
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: the outfield gives you pause a little bit because that's

800
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: where the age shows up. Dickerson about to turn thirty two,

801
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Starling Marte thirty two, Adam Duval thirty two. But all

802
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: these guys have really impressive career accolades as the defensive players,

803
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: and to some extent, all of them are guys that

804
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: don't necessarily rely entirely on their athleticism, Like they're guys

805
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: that could aid sort of gracefully compared to others at

806
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: their position because of the way they position themselves and

807
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: some of the other fundamentals. And then at catcher, I mean,

808
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Jorgel Farrow, I'm just gonna trust. I'm gonna trust him

809
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: at least in this department. I questions about his all

810
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: round game, but he committed his entire offseason to improving

811
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: as a defensive catcher. He was embarrassed to get benched

812
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year. And for someone that was

813
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: a perennial top prospect all throughout his life, I think

814
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: there's someone who has that incredible athleticism behind the plate,

815
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: someone that just needed to shure up some things with

816
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: his game calling, his situational awareness that I think there's

817
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: a big leap forward coming from him defensively. But really

818
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: what ties it together is the fact that the next

819
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: wave of these Marlins players, the guys that they've actually

820
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: acquired through the draft and internationally and traded for that

821
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: this entire next wave at almost every position is it's

822
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: just jaw dropping how skilled they are. From Leywin Diaz

823
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: at first base, I don't know if there's anybody that

824
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: will be better defensive first basement than him by the

825
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: time he gets called up. And then just like every

826
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: other position in the outfield of the JJ Bulday for

827
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: what he lacks in athleticism, makes up for in his

828
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: awareness and his at all these positions. Jose Devers, I

829
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: think we'll see a lot of him in the majors

830
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: at various infield positions. I don't think we see wi

831
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: Old Banfield this year. I catcher, he's still a ways away.

832
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: If he does sneak up somehow in emergency duty, that's

833
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: a guy that's already made awesome defensive catcher at just

834
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: at every position. With these next wave of prospects, guys

835
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: that will be seeing this year that internally they are

836
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: they're totally prepared. They're totally prepared for a full length season.

837
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: And whether these guys are ready as all round players,

838
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but not only are they talented enough,

839
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: not only do they have that good chemistry and camaraderie.

840
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: And I think what ties it all together is Trey Hillman,

841
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: who at the major league level is in charge of

842
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: their positioning defensively, and it's shown up like how much

843
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: of an impact he makes and how much he understands

844
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: the work that they put in to scout opposing players

845
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: that it shows, it shows, and it gives them the

846
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: best opportunity to make plays. So over the course of

847
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the year number one defense, they're going to be allowing

848
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: this pitching staff to overachieve. In my opinion, I'm even

849
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: more wowed with the fielding than I am with the pitching.

850
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot, because there's a lot of

851
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: wow with this pitching staff itself. That is that bold

852
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: enough for you?

853
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it. I absolutely love it because I

854
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: think this defense, I mean, number one in anything, is

855
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: gonna be bold and I believe it though. I think

856
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: this could be one of the more feasible ones so

857
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: on this list that that could actually happen, and it's

858
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: it's a good balance of bold and could happen. And

859
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: if that does happen, then I think it kind of

860
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: ties into the e er a thing, right, and then

861
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Speaker 2: then we might end up having a few of these, right.

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Speaker 2: But I love everything that you hit on. I was

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00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: thinking as you were talking about that, just imagine Lay

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00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: when Diaz at first base this year with this team's defense,

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00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: would be incredible. But of course, you know, the morning's

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00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: two best hitters both play first base right now, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to figure out how to get at

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00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: bats to both of those guys. And we could probably

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00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: record a whole podcast just on that and down the line.

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Speaker 2: I definitely before the season starts, would love to have

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Speaker 2: you on Locked On Marlins to talk about all of

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00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: those brutal things that make my mind scramble. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: these are these are some fun predictions. And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what I mean. If even if a couple of

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Speaker 2: these are one of them is right, the Marlins are

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Speaker 2: in good shape, especially the Minor League player of the

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Speaker 2: year stuff. If Meisner or con nine wins Minor League

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year, and we're assuming it's not because

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Speaker 2: all the good prospects, like all the higher end prospects struggled, uh,

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00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: that's a great that's great news for the Marlins. And

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00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: I think the system. It just kind of shows you

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Speaker 2: the depth that we can even pull out a thirteenth

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: or fourteenth ranked prospect, and even if it is a

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00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: hot take, say it's feasible in a certain situation where

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00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: those guys could put together fantastic years. And while there's

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00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: some volatility, I love just the the ceilings, the high

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: ceilings that a lot of these prospects have, and I

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00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: just can't wait to see how many of those guys

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Speaker 2: will try to scrape the surface of it.

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Speaker 1: We're getting close, We're getting closed, about two weeks away

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Speaker 1: from opening day, and plenty of players is going to

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00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: be involved over the course of this long season, guys

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Speaker 1: that we don't expect, and yeah, will we lined up

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Speaker 1: on this? We could all we could be looking pretty

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Speaker 1: smart a few months down the road, or we could

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Speaker 1: be looking like idiots. But at least we put it

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Speaker 1: out there and great. The idea of putting it out

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Speaker 1: there is encourage other people to share their predictions as well.

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Speaker 1: So wherever you see this, if you see this online,

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00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: if you're just listening on our podcast feed on fish Stripes,

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00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: if you see us posting a tease of this on Twitter,

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00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram, we want to hear your bold predictions as well.

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00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: They don't all have to be positive. I mean most

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Speaker 1: of these turned out to be kind of positive in

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00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: most cases, but you can use your imagination, be honest

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00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: with what you're expecting from this team, and yeah, what

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Speaker 1: we're missing here as well.

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Speaker 2: So this is arm Laden.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every single day he's covering the Marlins for

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Speaker 1: you and major league prospects at large. So you can

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00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: find him on Twitter arm Laden eight and you can

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00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: find him on his podcast shows. Be sure to subscribe,

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Speaker 1: rate and review to those just like you do here.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe rate review from Fish Stripes as well. So I've

915
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: kept you longer and not even plan to, so I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your patience and the thought that you put into these.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk soon again.

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Speaker 2: Arm It's fun as always, man, I always love reconnecting,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to our home and home here

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Speaker 2: where I can hopefully have you on Lockdown Marlin sometime

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Speaker 2: soon