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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast knows the overtime rules. Well.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes teaming even Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Yes, yes, yes, she's back and everyone's excited. Colleen, well,

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Speaker 1: fak a. Connie Fox, I speak Spanish. Yeah, that went well.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever want to step on West's Hey Dan,

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Speaker 1: and then there was a drop in there. That's a

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Speaker 1: way to start the show though. Hey Dan, I like

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Speaker 1: your Jim Harmow glasses. Colleen, thank you? Yeah, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing right now? Trying to get a shot of

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Speaker 1: everybody that works for a podcast? Can't get Mark in

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Speaker 1: there or Greg? Anyway, Connie Fox is back joining us.

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Speaker 1: We're fivesome today. How exciting finnted even Yes, quintet much

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Speaker 1: better than five some. Yeah, I'm in like the really here?

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Speaker 1: This is very similar, uh, Mark Sessler, the spot that

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Speaker 1: Colleen's in, It's very similar to what part of a

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Speaker 1: bar that you should always covet. Oh, you gotta get

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Speaker 1: Devil's perch, Devil's perch. Whenever you could get the spot

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Speaker 1: No one's behind you, but you could see everything, and

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Speaker 1: you've got easy access to the bartender and most importantly

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Speaker 1: of all, devil's perch. That's where you are right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you have beer in here? We actually do, But

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Speaker 1: Sydney has some behind the I mean it's been there,

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Speaker 1: some beer, new money. Why has that beer been in

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Speaker 1: drink those after the title games. Uh. This season, I've

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Speaker 1: ranked the best Devil's purchase. Okay, well, Lost and Found

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Speaker 1: um the cozy number one. Yeah, upset because it's the

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Speaker 1: you can't take away devil's perch from the people. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Today's Around the NFL podcast, the Tuesday edition, sponsored of

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Speaker 1: course by Mr Flames, economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands.

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Speaker 1: only travels with one of those pure bread great Danes

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Speaker 1: of me. Today's show, the Monday Night Recap, a Monday

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Speaker 1: night football game between the Green Bay Packers and Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: will start there. We have some news to hit, not

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Speaker 1: focusing on the anger of the two thousand sixteen regular season,

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Speaker 1: a game between Greg What come on, you gotta know

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Speaker 1: Behind center had an incredible ball game. Here is one

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Speaker 1: we don't want you to be destroying us either well,

425
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Speaker 1: and not to go back to the Rams again. But

426
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: the Browns had with Bernie Kozar, who was fired as

427
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: a preseason analysts because he ripped who the Rams receivers

428
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: and who responded crazily about it, Jeff Fisher. So Jeff

429
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: Fisher might be a little sensitive, little touchy jef uh

430
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Finally in the news, I thought this was an interesting nugget.

431
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this in our our pre show talk.

432
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: But because whenever you wanna, you know, touching on the

433
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Speaker 1: throne of sleeves. You know, Tim Tebow, this is way

434
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: back two thousand fourteen. You have to bring it up

435
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: before the show because we all would have shot at

436
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: this islets thank you mark hashtag cancel the Patriots safe football.

437
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow had signed with the Patriots in two thousand fourteen,

438
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: got offered one million dollars for a one day shoot

439
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: for a commercial, and he wanted to run it by

440
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: Bill and Bill, I just want to make sure this

441
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: is okay with you, Bill said, and I quote Timmy,

442
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: I would really appreciate it if you didn't. Tim Tebow

443
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: turned out a million dollars for one day of work,

444
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: and then the Patriots cut Tim Tebow shortly. Thereat you know,

445
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I just feel like you should. I just want to say,

446
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: that's a news item. That's all supposed to rel Sorry

447
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: for a millionaire football player, you can get to make

448
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: another million every minute he tried to play pro football.

449
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: He was passing up money because he could have made

450
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot more money making this, like he is now

451
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: making speeches and being in the media. I mean, he

452
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: had his public appearance fees, all of that sort of stuff.

453
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: You know, give me a break, don't ask for pres'll

454
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: come after me. It's just a news item. He's he's

455
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: he's a news deliver. He's delivering the you know, the

456
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: ideas and the topics of the day. And do you

457
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: know what, it's not Bill Belichick. It's not like Bill

458
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: Belichick once he said, don't do that because he was

459
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: trying to avoid the circus. Now I have to I

460
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: could keep you on the team, like I owe that

461
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: to you. I get that, But it just does speak

462
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 1: to NFL and it's not just Belichick. How micro their

463
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: viewpoint is on things that instead of letting him do

464
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: that that silly, stupid commercial that no one would ever

465
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: paid attention to, he was like, I don't want you

466
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: to do that. Commercial because he thinks in such a

467
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: tunnel vision way about his team let him do the

468
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: stupid commercial. No one would even known about it. Do

469
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: we know what the commercial was for. We'll never know.

470
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he was dressed up. Maybe he was dressed up

471
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: as Bill Belichick in the commercial. That awesome. Maybe there.

472
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: It did come out of Tebow's upcoming books shake Mark

473
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: Sessler has agreed to purchase, read and give a detailed

474
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: report negative long form on it dot com. This something

475
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: I got enough to do, right, He's making the money

476
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: back with shaking the nerve of that guy. By the way,

477
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: his second, but his second autobiography at this point, So

478
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. That was that was one of his

479
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: life goals, getting three autobiographies by thirty five, and he's unpassed.

480
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: I can't even run for president and he's writing autobiography. Um,

481
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. I wasn't a slaughter

482
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: job of Bill, but I just thought it was kind

483
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: of interesting. It was topical. I think, really the bigger

484
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: crime is a young person with nothing to offer the

485
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: world in terms of wisdom writing books, much bigger crime

486
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: than Bellichick. That's what's happening in the news. Before we

487
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: move on to what's more likely, little I want to

488
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: throw a little curveball another one. This is part of

489
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: my jobs to keep everybody on their toes, um, and

490
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: I want to start here, all right, so we know

491
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: we know the Vikings they fell again last Thanksgiving and uh.

492
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: This prompted our own Mark Sesler on Sunday Show to

493
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: share this tidbit about his takeaway from Thanksgiving. The entire

494
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: NFC East deserves the playoffs more than the Phi. The

495
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings right now they are. They had a chance

496
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving to rest away that division and they couldn't

497
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: get it done. Bye bye. Now you said that, you

498
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: said that three days after I had a very interesting

499
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: conversation with my friend Bob Um at Thanksgiving feast, uh,

500
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: and he had run something by me that I thought,

501
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, why not get my Bob, my friend Bob

502
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: on the line and he could pitch something that he

503
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: pitched to me. And if all I asked for you

504
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: from you guys is open ears on what he pitched

505
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: to me, which at the very least I found an

506
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: industry trying to get out of the team of a

507
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: t L. Aren't you listen, my friend Bob, are you

508
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: on the line. Yes, Hello, Hey guys, Hey Bob, Bob.

509
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: You guys know Bob first time, first time, long time.

510
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: A little fun fact. Uh, my friend Bob actually started

511
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: the subreddit that is so popular, and I kind of

512
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: started it, like I squatted on it because I just

513
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: I like read it. So I was like, oh, nobody

514
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: has so I got the name and then did nothing

515
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, so Greedy really is the guy that

516
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: he is the hero. I'm like beyond the Winklevoss Twins.

517
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's there now, Bob. I I don't know

518
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: if you heard Mark's comments from Sunday Show about the Vikings. Um,

519
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: bye bye? Yeah he said bye bye? And I if

520
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: you would would you would you just kind of pitch

521
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: to the group here, including Connie Fox Colleens with us today.

522
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Um what you kind of pitched to me during Thanksgiving feast? Yeah? Absolutely,

523
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, I just I feel like we need

524
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: to talk about the King's because it's just not working out.

525
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, like it was really exciting when it started.

526
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Like you guys that could hear in your voices you're

527
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: all excited. Uh, you start buy them through some hard times,

528
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: but you know you just tell you're not happy, like

529
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: none of you are happy with this. It's in your voices.

530
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: You guys deserve better. You you know, you only live once.

531
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: That's the saying I think. And uh, I just think

532
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: that you know you do you? You know, there's no

533
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: reason to kind of force yourselves to get excited about

534
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: another damaged franchise on the podcast. And that's just when

535
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: you gets to be happy, that's all, you know, Bob.

536
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's liking it to a relationship. And and

537
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: it is funny that in really fluttering us up here

538
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: in retrosp Bob's done that to view time. Yeah, in retrospect,

539
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: it is kind of funny that this is the podcast

540
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: where there's a Jets fan and a Browns fan, and

541
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: then we went down the road of getting behind a

542
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Vikings team, which is right in that in that top

543
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: echelon of like pained franchises, Like what were we asking for?

544
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: And Bob, you're saying, we deserve better? So how do

545
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: how do you think we should rectify that? I don't know,

546
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's like a foreign concept for

547
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I guess all of you to be single, but um,

548
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, give it a sigh. Maybe just kind

549
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: of break up with the Vikings and spend the rest

550
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: of this year just kind of dating around and seeing

551
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: what's out there. Yeah, but it feels safe the Vikings.

552
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: It feels it feels just like I'm used to it.

553
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: We sit on the couch together and watch Black Mirror

554
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: and sweatpants and eats thanks getting leftovers. It feels Okay.

555
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I get it's comfortable. It's comfortable. I get it. But

556
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, like I hear when you know, when the

557
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Titans come up like a little there's like a there's yeah,

558
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: either's just kind of like the dress right one that

559
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: got away. I feel the same way about the Chargers.

560
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: But you know, we can have an open relationship. You know,

561
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings don't have to. But I have an agreement

562
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that if I come upon the Titans on a lonely

563
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Friday night, that's my cheat. Open relationships never work. I mean,

564
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: we to be right along the party line with what

565
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Bob suggesting. I threw it out there a couple of

566
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: weeks ago that we could at least entertain the concept

567
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: of two team of a t l S. Because the

568
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: minute we went with the Vikings, there was this, uh,

569
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: you know from certain parties a very present Fisher, like, no,

570
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: it should have been the Raiders, or now it's the

571
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Titans popping up in great and then the Fisher was

572
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: their their team falling into us saying yeah, and the

573
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer murdered all those stuff to animals the way

574
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: that that really started off, They've disappointed beyond comprehension, and

575
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: they they probably will disappoint more so I would say this,

576
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: I have an open mind to doing anything with Team

577
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: of a t L. I don't go to bed worried

578
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: about Team of a t L. I mean, I propose

579
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: the vikings, I made this mistake. Here's a concern. Here's

580
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the concern I have, And and I don't think it

581
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Mark, That's what your heart was saying

582
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, you guys have grown apart, so

583
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: you're proposing a side piece. He's supposing going. I think

584
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I know where you're going without my concerns, because I

585
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: don't believe in any of this open relationship stuff that

586
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: always ends terribly for everyone. I think you either stay

587
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: and you work things out, stay together for the kids,

588
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: or you break it off and have a fresh start.

589
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: But here's my concern. We break it off, of course,

590
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: and then the Vikings go hit the gym, and the

591
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: Vikings read some books, and the Vikings start listening to,

592
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, some new podcasts, and all of a sudden,

593
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings are looking pretty good again. They got a

594
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: couple of wins, they're looking kind of sexy. It's kind

595
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: of reminding you of the old Vikings and and they're

596
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: not going to take us back. Right. Not only not

597
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: only would we have missed the fun part of the journey,

598
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: we've been exposing our lack of character for not being

599
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: loyal to them. That is the worst possible result is

600
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: the Vikings going out a tear after we get up

601
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: with them. Break up with them, well, so I want

602
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: to avoid that's the only way that can end. But

603
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: this time around one caveat, we would all be able

604
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: to you know, show after show we could blame Bob. Oh, yeah,

605
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: that's true. Can I offer a different point of view? Yeah? Sure?

606
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: All along the Vikings were some hideous, toothless contraption that

607
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: we were too drunk at two in the morning when

608
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: we agreed to go home with them, And now we're

609
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: in this awful relationship and we didn't even know that

610
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: they were that bad. It's been like two months of

611
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: just them being horrible wives to us or husband. I

612
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: was like, I was the sober friend as a listener

613
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: and as you guys kind of talked yourselves into Sam

614
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Bradford and I was like, don't do it. This is also,

615
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: by the way, that never works out. You know who

616
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders are. They're the girl next door that

617
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: you should have been with all along now. Absolutely, they're

618
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: the vapid, good looking girl next door once he hung

619
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: out with him, the girl next door that's Dankee. This

620
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: is the problem still like a flying blow the radar

621
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: for the last two decades. Come on, the girl next

622
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: door that you can stay up all night with and

623
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: talk things out and then you don't even realize how

624
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: pretty she is. That's the Raiders wandering eyes here. So

625
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: I feel like you should cut the relationship off at

626
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: this point, Colleen, you've broken many hearts in your past.

627
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: We've talked about um it's not true in Europe. So

628
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: in your opinion, you think it's time to say goodbye. Well, yeah,

629
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean all the signs are right in front of us.

630
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: We've just talked through them. I don't know if you

631
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: can fix this at this point reconcilable. Yeah, can we

632
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: have a kid to fix it? No, that's never idea. Quickly,

633
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, Bob, what's the band aid baby? Um

634
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: parallel here? Oh man, that's uh. Don't worry about it

635
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: because it's a terrible idea. Trying to help us, Sam

636
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Speaker 1: Bradford gets injured on Thursday night, Sean Hill comes in

637
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: and leads them to the Promised Land. I don't know alright, anyway,

638
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't think there's It's tough because you guys jump

639
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: from one long term relationship to the next, and you

640
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: don't really give yourself that much of what I think

641
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: this is. This might be the last team of a

642
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: t L ever, so that's also something to keep in mind.

643
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: I could keep them, I could keep the Vikings because

644
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I do feel loyal to that decision. But then we

645
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: can have wait, we can have well, I said they're

646
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: not gonna gonna make the playoffs, but I don't need that.

647
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: But we can have four team of a t l

648
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: s to make this as murky and complicated as possible. No,

649
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think we should do that. It has to

650
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: be unanimous, and I'm sticking with them. Unlike the four

651
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: of you. I've been in this wild and wacky dating

652
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: world in l A. I can attest that it's not pretty. Yeah, Will,

653
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: I think you will love again, Greg, I don't want

654
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: you to be so negative about that. I love the Chargers,

655
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: I love the Bucks, but I don't know I want

656
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: to you love the Bucks again. I can't. I don't

657
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: even know. You know, Greg, You're like the like the

658
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals where your longtime wife and she died, and then

659
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: you're like, I'll never love again. I was married. It's

660
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: over now, Bob is like our counselor right now. I

661
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: just I just want you, guys to find a scene

662
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: that makes you feel the way the Panthers made you

663
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: feels That might be impossible for me. It was The Raiders,

664
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: but you know whatever, the original do you the hig

665
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: School Sweetheart Panthers? Okay, got you? You only fall in

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: love for the first time once. I guess alright, Okay,

667
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm gonna wear this analogy is

668
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: so thin that I Bob, do you want to plug

669
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: your movie? Your special little movie? You made special little movie.

670
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: That's that's really kind of ending? Yeah? Yeah, funck of

671
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: dudes guys, I made this movie. Dan helped out on it.

672
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: It's the uh the most number one downloaded comedy of

673
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: all time, are we even? If I don't call that

674
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: out for being I think like suck don't matter, so

675
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: you might as well. Uh yeah, check it out. It's

676
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: on it's everywhere, it's on demand, it's on iTunes. It's

677
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: an okay movie. Yeah, it's a very good, very funny movie.

678
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see it. Yeah, and Bob directed

679
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: it and co wrote it and very talented man and

680
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: my good buddy since what about Uh yeah, we had

681
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: a I think we suit a partner on eight eight

682
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: because she's talking you into buying the Batman video game

683
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: for Nintendo. Oh so you grew up with the whole town? Yeah? Yeah,

684
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: that was kind of on the coal side of town,

685
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: though I was one on like or in the Precious Metals.

686
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Speaker 1: Any other questions, everybody? Yeah, maybe I'll just do an

687
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: A M A on Reddit questions. Um, all right, my

688
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: friend Bob by l Right. We didn't accomplish anything there,

689
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: but it was good to talk. Well, we can have

690
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: an answer by Thursday. Could we a bad weather? We're

691
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: breaking up? Right? Okay? Or not? I don't care. You

692
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: get some locks and bagels. Maybe you go into the

693
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: fork room and figure it out. Maybe it's one of

694
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: those things that was the equivalent of having like the

695
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: seven hour chat through the night into the dawn trying

696
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: to work out what the future is. I don't know.

697
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: M h. Those are not fun chats. We've all had them.

698
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: They're awful. So now we're gonna wait for the Vikings

699
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: to make the first move. It's a very it's we're

700
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: in a sticky situation stuff. I'm not talking to them

701
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: right now, all right, I have to make the first move.

702
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: It time to play one of our favorite games. Yes,

703
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: what's more likely? A A game whereby each of us,

704
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: five of us present one um scenario. It's basically an

705
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: either or game. UH O R R. Speaking of O

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Speaker 1: r R, Connor will be joining us next week. Little

707
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: teas there um for to talk a little bit what's

708
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: going on in life of Connor. But for right now,

709
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: we will each throw out what's more likely, and we'll

710
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: start with Mark Sessler. All right, I actually did not

711
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: put anything on paper until about five minutes ago for preparation.

712
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: But here we go between now in the regular season ending,

713
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: UH what's more likely Tony Romo makes a start, Jimmy

714
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: Garoppolo makes a start, or r G three wins enough

715
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Speaker 1: games for the Browns could be won to keep them

716
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Speaker 1: from getting the number one pick. Oh that's a tough one. Well, Brady,

717
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get hurt. He's only gotten hurt once

718
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: and they're currently tied with the Raiders for the best

719
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: record at the ANFC, So there's a to me, a

720
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: fairly good chance they're gonna need those games, even the

721
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: last game. So I'm gonna rule out him. Romo for

722
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: Prescott just whether Prescott gets injured, I don't know, or

723
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: if they ran away with the number one seed, they

724
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: could start Romo in week seven. I was thinking about that.

725
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Speaker 1: Do you think they would would do It's a weird

726
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: I dont think you would want to do that because

727
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: it just raises too many things, plus city people stupid.

728
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I already rolled out the RG three factor that's not

729
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: going to happen. I'll say Romo is the more likely because,

730
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: as Dan said, Brady doesn't get hurt. Connie, I'll go

731
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Speaker 1: I'll go with Romo starting because I can't stand the

732
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys and that seems like something that they would do.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I will agree with you. In fact,

734
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Speaker 1: I think it's a bad idea to even introduce X.

735
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: But I think in Jerry Jones's mind it would be

736
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: a way of like giving him throwing up a bone.

737
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Speaker 1: Are they at home in week seventeen? That also factors

738
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Speaker 1: in here. It's a great question. If they're at home

739
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: in week seventeen and the Cowboys have nothing to play,

740
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: that seems like a disaster is like a good bye

741
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: farewell basically, that's how they'll play it. I think it's

742
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: more likely Deck gets injured and Romo starts seventeen Dallas

743
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: is on the road against the Eagles. Okay, so that

744
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: eliminates it basically unless that gets hurt. Um, But you

745
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: know that it's just an injury, all right, I'll go

746
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Speaker 1: with I'll go through a moment r G three. I

747
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: think the forty Niners have their chance to win this

748
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Speaker 1: week against the Bears. But if they don't, I think

749
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: we we've all thought the brown will likely win one game.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like I don't think that anymore. It sounds

751
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: like r G three'll start a game and uh, I

752
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the strength of victory is No one

753
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: knows that at this point, but even one win might

754
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: be enough to do it. So I'm going Rgs have

755
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: three games remaining where they could conceivably they could. They

756
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: played fairly well for three straight weeks. All right, up next,

757
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. Was more likely the Green Bay Packers come

758
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: back from being what were there four and six to

759
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, or Aaron Rodgers ends up as the

760
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: NFL's touchdown leader after we spent half the season wondering

761
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: what was wrong with him? Where we are right now

762
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: with that, he is to total touchdowns behind Drew Brees

763
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: for the NFL. Oh so rushing as well rushing. He's

764
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: their rushing leader for touchdowns as well. He's got thirty

765
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: total and Breeze has thirty two total. I like Breeze

766
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: winning that title, though, well you've gotta like the other

767
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: side of it though, too. Yeah, what's the other side again?

768
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: They win? They win the NFC. Yeah, I'll go with that.

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00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: I think the Packers have a real good shot to

770
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: win the NFC North. Mark's right, we put too much

771
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: stock into primetime games sometimes, but I look at Aaron

772
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers playing at the pretty close to the height of

773
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: his powers, right now, and I see that going a

774
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: long way in a mediocre division. I'm not sold on

775
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: the Packers defense. I think that Aaron Rodgers is going

776
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball and keep scoring and

777
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: keep that offense up high in games. So I'm going

778
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: with the second. I I would agree. I think the

779
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Packers getting into the playoffs. I'm going with that side

780
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: of things. I will too, because they've beaten the Lions,

781
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: and they played the Lions again in the finale. They

782
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: could conceivably win the division at nine and seven by

783
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: by winning that game and sweeping Detroit, and Rogers will

784
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: be right there. But I think I think he's gonna

785
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: just miss the touchdown total, especially if any of the

786
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: running backs start scoring touchdowns, which until last night had

787
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: not happened. Let's hope that hamstring health is healthy as well.

788
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: That could be a difference maker up next more. All right,

789
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: every head coach in the NFL still has their job

790
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: on Christmas morning talking about this stuff. I literally wrote

791
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: a colibut last week the box make the playoffs. Win

792
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: a playoff game for the first time since two thousands,

793
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: win a playoffs. I just make the playoffs. What the

794
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: first one was? They all have their jobs on Christmas Morning.

795
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's getting fired before, yeah, the end

796
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: of the season, so I'll say that's more likely. Christmas

797
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: morning is the day after Week sixteen, although a few

798
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: teams are playing on Christmas, So yeah, I would say,

799
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: would say that's more likely. I said, I would say

800
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: that's even likely. It would be kind of a badass

801
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: evil who's going to fire something that Christmas Eve? They

802
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: make it Kelly did last year. Didn't they make an

803
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: eighties comedy about this movie firing somebody on Christmas Day?

804
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: You're right, fired? Why you'll love it? You're right. Market's

805
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: not unprecedented at all to fire guys in week fifteen sixteen.

806
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: It does happen for a teams that want to get

807
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: a head start. So just thinking to those teams, could

808
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: the Jaguars or the Bears. Those would be two teams

809
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: that that come to mind, the idea that Jaguars just

810
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: can't resist the temptation to see Doug Moron in. Actually,

811
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. I think it's unlikely because

812
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: there isn't a team sitting out there, even with the

813
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: bad teams, where the situation is toxic enough, you usually

814
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: there's some lead up where you hear about discord, you

815
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: hear rumors something, But yeah, Jeff Fisher, But I mean

816
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: that's that I'm not sure that the ownership there is

817
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: plugged in to make that decision enough. You know, the

818
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: week before the season ends, I will go Bucks because

819
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I like the idea of it. I love it. Well,

820
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: there are six teams right now kind of in the

821
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: mix for those two playoffs spots, so that it's gonna

822
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: be hard for them to even get to the playoffs

823
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: with their schedule. Well, you need the Redskins or Giants

824
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: to melt. I need But let's see, the are only

825
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: half a game up. Schule are good is coming for

826
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: the Giants, one step at a time. For the Bucks,

827
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: even if they make the plus, I don't know if

828
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: they're ready to win a game. So I'm gonna go

829
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: with no dismissals. By the way, Black Monday is my birthday,

830
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: so appropriate. How many coaches are gonna be fired on

831
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: my birthday? Probably four to six? You think four we

832
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about. I feel like that's that's only

833
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: talking about. We'll talk about it. Okay, that's right. Isn't

834
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: remotely true? You should come up with kind of a

835
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: fun you know, you do a lot of work at NFL. Now,

836
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: I just feel like Black Monday, your birthday on the

837
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: same day. That's just a recipe for some zan I'll

838
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: be opening up presence with just throwing that out there.

839
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: You're a huge help. Thank you. Here's the thing with

840
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: the NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal, because he's on the air

841
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and he's around all these big wigs of the industry. Uh,

842
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: he feels closer uh to a head coach like he could.

843
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: He understands what it's like to be under the spotlight, well,

844
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: a leader of men at the point. Yeah, I don't

845
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: like the sound of this man each week, which I

846
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: think is what everyone feels that's listening. You might be

847
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: speaking for the listener right not to mention the fact

848
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: that you have to drag in this poor guy each

849
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: and every week to perform this seared human You don't

850
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: like seared buttocks on the podcast. It might be the

851
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: hardest I've seen. It's also like he's it sounds like

852
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: he's in a shower of some sort too, because it's echoing.

853
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: It's really unsettling. Drag him into the custodian shower area

854
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: and light his ass on fire. All right, my turn.

855
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: You know I was gonna go with the Packers one

856
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: West two. This will not be my I can give

857
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: you my other one, but I'll just throw this one

858
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: out real quick. We don't need to discuss Packers win

859
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: NFC North or Colts win the a f C South.

860
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Packers Packers, Yeah, I guess it

861
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: go Packers like West gets Flamin but AFC South. So

862
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: I fascillate between the Colts and the Titans every week.

863
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: But I really think the Lions schedule is too hard

864
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: for a team that could lose to any team. And

865
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: but they're have two games on the Packers, so obviously

866
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: the Packers have to beat them, don't. You're talking about

867
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: a team that's lost to the Bears in the Texans, right,

868
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: But you're assuming they just need to gain one game, though,

869
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: because they play Detroit in the final week and you

870
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: own the sweep if they want. So it comes down

871
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: to week seven. They're kind of kissing cousins in a

872
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: way because both are led by amazing quarterbacks. The Packers

873
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: and Cults are both are flawed teams and middling to vision.

874
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Colts because I think the Cults are

875
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna sweep both the Texans and the Titans in a

876
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: bad division where there's not a lot of wins and

877
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: who knows how this all gonna shake up. That's a

878
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: big time advantage. Now, maybe Houston goes to in the oh.

879
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: I just blew my whole point. Houston won that first game.

880
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 1: Take all that away, all right, here's my real what's

881
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: more likely, which is really just a sneaky way to

882
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders win the first seed of the f C

883
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: or the Browns win their first game, Raiders win the

884
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: first seat. I don't think the Browns are gonna win

885
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: Raiders beating out the Paths. I'm going Browns again. I'm

886
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: not ruling out other teams from the a f C,

887
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: granted it, it's gonna be tough. But the chief I

888
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: guess the Chiefs would be the one team with a

889
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: decent chance because they everyone forgets they beat the crap

890
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: out of the Raiders. They dominated the Raiders, they get

891
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: the Eaters in Kansas City. There are only one game

892
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: back that they're in that mix. But I I would

893
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: go Browns for that reason. I don't think r G

894
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: three is helping the Brown's chances of winning games. It

895
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: sounds like he's gonna be in the mix. Also, he's

896
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: going to be injured by the end of the first

897
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: quarter of the game. He plays most likely Mark Raiders,

898
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: play the Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Cults, and Broncos. I think

899
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna slip up once or twice. Um, they're not

900
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: going to get the a f c's top seed, not

901
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: with New England sitting there and Cleveland will go one

902
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Let's see, where's your peace scale? By the way,

903
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: on the Browns now. I know it sounds I know

904
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: this sounds tiresome to to uh most of the people

905
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: in the room, But I have no peace scale. I mean,

906
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: what what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? Is gonna happen.

907
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: I it's there's enough things floating through the mind on

908
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: seven cycle that I have control over. I have no

909
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: control over this. The peace scale should be. How worried

910
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: are you that the Browns won't get the number one pick?

911
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: Not that that's much more if presuming there's some rock

912
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: star at number one. I don't want to see them

913
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: for the eighth time in like ten years not get

914
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: the number one pick. Like I said, finish the job there.

915
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: I mean they don't feel Bengals, Bills, Charger Steelers. Who

916
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: are they going to beat the Bills? The Bills are

917
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: not a safe team in any game because they don't

918
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: have a passing game. They're they're a dangerous team. But

919
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: there's a reason why the Jaguars paid If the Jaguars

920
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: can play them straight up, and that let was a

921
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: very evenly played I think it's the Bengals, or it's

922
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: something weird happens. These things are always broken by something

923
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: no one sees coming. I didn't like Hugh Jackson crying.

924
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's starting to really wear on the

925
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him. I think that

926
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: for human, for Sashi Brown, the rest. They don't want

927
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: to go on sixteen. That again, all right? One more

928
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: from the Boss more West West was getting getting into

929
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: this a little earlier. Which which team is more likely

930
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: to careen out of They're eight and three record and

931
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: straight out of the playoffs. The New York Giants are

932
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs Giants. Giants enter is coming. Giants,

933
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: it should be pointed out, have a full two game

934
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: lead they're on the number seven seed in the NFC

935
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: Chiefs play that they probably are in if they go

936
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: two and three, which which is a nice spot to be. Yeah,

937
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: I think, like we said, Sunny, the one thing that

938
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: the Giants have going for them in that conference is

939
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: you may not like how they did it or they didn't.

940
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: They played some cheap competition potentially of the last weeks,

941
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: but they got to the point where they can slip

942
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: up and still back into the playoffs win every game

943
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: they're supposed to win. So we're asking them to change

944
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: the identity of what they've established this point, which is

945
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: all right. Maybe they won't beat the tougher team on

946
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: the schedule, but they should take care of business against

947
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: the lesser teams. That's why I think they're gonna get

948
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: the ten wins. I don't believe that at all. They've

949
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: They've toyed around with lesser teams who they could have

950
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: easily lost those games, but they didn't. And and last,

951
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: like some d n A that says that they have

952
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: they have this natural strength that allows them to beat

953
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: bad teams. Sooner or later, you get burned by that. Well,

954
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: they're playing all winning teams. The rest of the way

955
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: except the Sunday night game in Philadelphia, assuming that doesn't

956
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: get flexed Thursday. Look at the chief schedule. You've got

957
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Raiders, the Titans, they have Broncos and

958
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think it's that's not They're not going

959
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: to coast into January either. Is it true that they

960
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: played every single snap besides like three in eleven personnel

961
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday? I didn't watch the game close Chiefs? Yeah?

962
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: Or no, the Giants. That's their normal offense. Yeah, Actually,

963
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: going into the all season long, they're like, well that's

964
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: their strength. They don't they haven't had a running there's

965
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: only not two back offense. That's so predictable. Though. That

966
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: was such a such a big win by the Chiefs,

967
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: but they were pretty lucky to win that game. I'm

968
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Chiefs are more likely to fall everybody, Uh,

969
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: share their piece there all it? Yeah, I couldn't throw

970
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: one more in go ahead West one more more. The

971
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: m v P Award is won by a member of

972
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys or a member of the other thirty

973
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: one teams. Always take the field, you, you typically say,

974
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: but this is this might be a different case. Not

975
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: for me. I am taking the field. I think Tom Brady,

976
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, little speed bump here lately, and I don't

977
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 1: think Brady's gonna get it. He's gotta be. He's gonna

978
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: be head and shoulders over the crowd like Joe Montana

979
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: was when he lost three games. That's the only president.

980
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady has not been head and shoulders for

981
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: the past month. I think he has been until last week.

982
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: But if that's a sign of things to come, that's troubling.

983
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I think if Dak Prescott wins the m v P,

984
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit of a couldn't that

985
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: That's what I was getting too. That makes some sense

986
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: to me, And you could see the writers kind of

987
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: getting behind that as almost like a let's reward the

988
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: running game. It's almost like giving it to the offensive line.

989
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: You could see that, And I mean, I totally think

990
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: that that. The Belichick and Brady should have won many

991
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: more head coaching awards and m vps over the years

992
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: than they have. But the Patriots went three and one

993
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: without without Brady, and they've been this same team with

994
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: Brady record wise year after year. This year doesn't particularly

995
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: stand out necessarily, the Cowboys were what four and twelve?

996
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it stands out if he closes strong, he

997
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: his numbers are as good as they've ever been. Ryan

998
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: is a much better m VP candidate than Tom Brady

999
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: a week ago, though he literally had better numbers than

1000
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: he's ever had in his entire career. I'm from a

1001
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: point is Elliott and whether it's Elliot or President and

1002
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Prescott are both. They come in and the team goes

1003
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: four and twelve last year or whatever the record was,

1004
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: and they are now the best team in the NFL arguably. Well,

1005
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: the fact that the Cowboys have two guys that are

1006
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: legitimate Canada it's for it. It just they take up

1007
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: all the attention and so it's I think it's gonna

1008
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: be really hard for anybody else in the field because

1009
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: if when you have two guys right there, everybody's looking

1010
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: at that team. Yeah, you're right, it's number one. I

1011
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: was gonna say, if you guys are voting today, I

1012
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: know this is off what's more likely, But if you

1013
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: guys are voting today, who who would you pick? Not

1014
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: who do you think would win? But who would you think?

1015
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: I would have to study really hard between Ezeel Elliott

1016
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan. I would say, Ezekiel Elliott, I think

1017
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I would go, Matt Ryan, are you pulling it if

1018
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: the season ended today? Yeah, I mean I know that's

1019
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: a little tricky, but yeah, I thought you hated that.

1020
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: That was just like a one. You made a lot

1021
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: of things. Um, here's my dark horse in this. Matt

1022
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: Ryan's a very fair pick. I like that. Zeke and

1023
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: Dad could end up splitting the vote, which would cost

1024
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: both of them in this type of race. But how

1025
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: about if the if the Saints do grab wild card,

1026
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: spot Free is leading every statistical category, throws for five

1027
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: thousand yards and forty two touchdowns, that has a one

1028
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: tent passer rating, whatever, and they make the playoffs. I

1029
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: think they need That's that's that's the tough part. They're

1030
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: a losing record, you know, because again it's Drew Brees

1031
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: has been outstanding. But what is the difference in in

1032
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: the mind of some of these voters of Drew Brees

1033
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: this year in other years? To us, we see a

1034
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: difference potentially, But the Cowboys have two players that didn't

1035
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: exist in the NFL a year ago who are captivating.

1036
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: Go watch an NFL pregame show even on NFL Network,

1037
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: It's sixty minutes of Dallas Cowboys. The numbers. Are we

1038
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: missing anyone? By the way, Derek Carr, Derek Car a

1039
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: lot of people. I also think Matt Ryan has been

1040
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Drew Brees, leading a better offense

1041
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: than Drew Brees. I I agree. As much as I

1042
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: love Drew Brees this year and think he's been better

1043
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: than he's been the last few years and is solidly

1044
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: in the top three quarterbacks and would be on the

1045
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: top three or four m VP, I think Matt Ryan's

1046
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: been better Breese should be in the conversation though he

1047
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: really hasn't been. I'm not gonna I know people hate

1048
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: to hear that. I'm not gonna pick a player who's

1049
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: on a losing team to be in the m v P.

1050
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: This is all to me under Yeah, they would have

1051
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: to go ted in six or something like that. Right now,

1052
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: he's on pace for fifty yards touch and a lot

1053
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: of people say, don't take his stats too seriously, but

1054
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: I do d yards, forty four touchdowns, twelve picks, and

1055
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: a hundred nine pass rating. Doesn't he do that every year? Yeah?

1056
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: He does, which is pretty amazing. I agree all right,

1057
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: Ryan leads the league in yards per tempt yards. It's

1058
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: it's also it's not best stats. It's the most valuable player.

1059
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: And I don't and I feel like Tom Brady has

1060
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: been overlooked far too many times in general, the most

1061
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: valuable overall player in the league the entire century is

1062
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: to just I wouldn't reward him just this year just

1063
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: because other years we missed. Well, that stuff happens all

1064
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: the time. I agree with you in principle, but in

1065
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: just that Brady has been overlooked when he's been the

1066
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: most valuable player. He's not more than once. He's not

1067
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: gonna want for more decorations when he retires. That also

1068
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it. But I agree with you,

1069
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: but that that's not how the voters should think. Whether

1070
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: he wants an MVP trophy, I mean, I'm going Dallas

1071
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 1: number one, two time Most Valuable Player, three times Super

1072
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. I don't. I feel like Tom

1073
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Brady has been well it would come a million a year.

1074
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't really. I'm just does nothing for hashtag gradual decline.

1075
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: He's year come back Year award, eleven time Pro bowler,

1076
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: the point at under the radar all of this. These

1077
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: awards are narrative driven, and they look for something that's

1078
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: new and flashy. Last year, that's the Dallas Cowboys. It's

1079
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady, and frankly, it's not Matt Ryan to

1080
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: most football back I think you're right, Mark, And I

1081
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: think if the award was being held today, another you

1082
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: know thing you said, I don't like. That's a little tweak.

1083
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: I think I think Elliott would win if I had

1084
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: to guess. Alright, let's move on, guys, talk Thursday night football.

1085
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Dallas Cowboys, they head to Minnesota at

1086
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: ten and one. Cowboys have not lost uh in like

1087
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: over eighty days now seems like forever. And they lost

1088
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: the season opener to the Giants uh and have won

1089
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: every game since. And now they go and travel UH

1090
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: to Minnesota a team and the Vikings that really, um

1091
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: again did not look great on Thanksgiving their last game.

1092
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: They did, uh play well. Uh, We've got some big

1093
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: plays to beat the Cardinals the prior week, and then

1094
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: of course they lost four games in row prior to that.

1095
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: So I think in a lot of ways, uh, Colleen Wolf,

1096
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings are still a team that everyone's trying to

1097
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: figure out were relationship wise, We're trying to figure them out.

1098
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: The NFL now trying to are the Vikings any good

1099
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: or not? And but we know how good the Cowboys are. Yeah,

1100
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: they could clinch a playoffs. But this week too with

1101
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: if they win in Washington loses or if they win

1102
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah the Cowboys or and if they win in

1103
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay loses or ties, which we've seen a lot of.

1104
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Vikings, it's it's really hard to figure

1105
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: them out. It was kind of a boring game too

1106
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: to watch on Thanksgiving because after the first drive to

1107
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: tell me about it, I was here, I'm that was

1108
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: it for the offense, and then they just traded field

1109
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: goals back and forth until Sam Bradford, under pressure just

1110
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: throws a huge interception. I throw something out about that

1111
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: because I know in this room there's been a lot

1112
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: of um positive comments about Sam Bradford this season, pointing

1113
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: Tim is not the problem. I'm not saying he's the problem,

1114
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: but they don't score any points. I mean, and he's

1115
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback, so like he's having his best season. He's

1116
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: making throws right, but does But at the end of

1117
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: the day, though their offense is still not good. I'm

1118
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: not saying it's his fault, but this doesn't have to

1119
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. A lot better at home

1120
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: is on the road. Seven touchdown zero And if you're

1121
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: watching the games, I don't think any straight minded person

1122
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: is gonna say Sam Bradford, I don't think he has

1123
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: to be better. I think I think he's dealing with

1124
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: the worst rushing attack we've ever seen in our lives.

1125
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Two point four yards the worst rushing attack do not

1126
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: the answer. They don't pick up third and fourth and

1127
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: one in key situations, which means they don't convert red

1128
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: zone and they don't score touchdowns. They also have the

1129
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the NFL. But and I just

1130
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: have to be better. Though, well maybe he's not there.

1131
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 1: He need he Aaron Rodgers, I believe will be playing

1132
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: worse in this offense than Sam. Here's the thing. They've

1133
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: they've overcorrected, how careful they are. I know the offensive

1134
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: line is bad, but watching that game, Mark it must

1135
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: have driven you crazy. How they throw short of the

1136
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: sticks every freaking third down. And that's a little bit

1137
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: on Sam Bradford. He is about to set at all

1138
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: time record for completion percentage on one of the worst

1139
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: offenses in football, so that that doesn't compute. Yeah, that's fine,

1140
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: but you gotta something needs to change because that's not

1141
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: enough when you go again but twenty two, like, okay,

1142
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: you need to change, So now drop back another two

1143
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: steps and get sacked. No. I mean you just have

1144
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: to fit. You have to figure out ways to mix

1145
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: in some longer plays. I mean, when you score thirteen

1146
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: points against the Lions on a day where Sam Bradford

1147
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: played pretty well, it's like something's wrong. Average pass traveled

1148
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: three point for a right. That's that's what. That's all

1149
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's it's too much. You gotta have some

1150
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: That's what happened when Shermer took over for North term

1151
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: it is, and it's also a symptom of their personnel

1152
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: in their offense. They all they did not have stuff

1153
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: on digs in the lineup on Thanksgiving getting him back?

1154
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: Is it enough against the Dallas Cowboys? I would say

1155
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But he gives you a downhill eleman, He's

1156
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: he's a star wide receiver. Watched that game and I

1157
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: thought the Vikings were a better team and and at worst,

1158
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you can watch that game and think Oh,

1159
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: the Lions are some better team. They were just too

1160
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: evenly played teams who both had a lot of flowers

1161
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: and one of them, you know, came up with the

1162
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: plays that at the end. That's what the Lions do.

1163
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're terrible. Really could have used

1164
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: this year is an impact performance from their first round pick,

1165
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: who was a wide receiver. Like that's almost flown under

1166
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: the radar. It's not like the quarterback that they're developed here. Yeah,

1167
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: he was a what the eighteenth nineteenth overall pick in

1168
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: the draft, and he is a nonentity in this office

1169
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: and and a reliable kicker. Would they'd have a different

1170
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: record entirely if they had a reliable kicker team. The

1171
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: offensive line and ground attack are the Blake borders of

1172
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. That's holding the team hostage. And it

1173
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really you can point the fingers anywhere else on

1174
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: this team, but you'd be wrong. It's all the offensive

1175
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: line in ground attack. But this is a great matchup

1176
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: for them. I I know, uh, it's it's not a

1177
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: game they should be favored. But if you want to play,

1178
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: if you're the Vikings, the teams you want to play

1179
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: are teams that play safe defense, play zone defense, and

1180
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: have no pass rush. And oh, by the way, the

1181
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys give up five hundred yards and eight freaking drives

1182
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: against Washington. They have no pass rush, and the Vikings

1183
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: are Redskins are averaging almost five hundred yards per game. Right,

1184
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: but that was an eight drive. It was one of

1185
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: the better offensive performances. All I'm saying is have your

1186
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: defense show up, make a couple of plays. And this

1187
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: is a defense, you should be able to move the ball.

1188
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: I I like, I like what you're saying. I where

1189
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: I would flip the script, though, is if you want

1190
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: to beat Dallas, you've got to do what Dallas does.

1191
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: You've got to find a way. You have to have

1192
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: the type of offense that can get on the few

1193
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: old and stay on the field for long drives. To

1194
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: keep Dallas and what they do on the sideline, keep

1195
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott on the sideline, keep keep a loaded passing

1196
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: game on the sideline. Minnesota has cannot sustain drives for

1197
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: all the reasons that we just mentioned. Adrian Peterson, by

1198
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: the way, not in the mix for this game, but

1199
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: positive news for the Vikings that he is uh now

1200
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: running off to the side at practice on Tuesday. According

1201
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: to Stacy Dale's of NFL Network, he might be ahead

1202
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: of schedule. But the question I guess and I'll ask

1203
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: us is do you think that matters between him coming

1204
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: back from a serious knee injury and an offensive line

1205
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: that's a major problem. I think it matters. He's an

1206
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: upgrade on Jerick McKinnon and Matt Matt Ausiata big time.

1207
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: But could he be a difference maker. You'd have to

1208
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: game plan for them differently if you're turing Peterson sitting

1209
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: in the back because they're they're in all these games

1210
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: that they're not a good team. But all of these

1211
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: losses except for the Bears loss came down to the

1212
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: final possession. So if you can get a little better

1213
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson, you know you get if on big

1214
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: dig but maybe they can flip it, can flip some

1215
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: of these close games, convert some short yardage, which are

1216
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: the biggest plays in any game. Really, like you're in

1217
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: the red zone. You need fourth and one or third

1218
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: and one. They never make it. Hey, Vikings, tell me

1219
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: you love me, right, tell me you love This does

1220
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: seem personal, right, Zimmer If you've watched Zimmer in press

1221
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: this week. Oh, he is fired up. They are fired

1222
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: up for this game. He's fired up because he's been

1223
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys a long time and it's a personal

1224
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: game with him, and he worked for the Joneses, and

1225
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: he knows they're underdogs and this feels like a back

1226
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: against the wild game. Will see the best out of

1227
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings. It's a lot of that, and they play

1228
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: much better defense at home. But I think in the

1229
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: year two thousand and sixteen, the defense does not exist

1230
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: that can stop the Dallas Cowboys. Pick the game, Mark

1231
01:04:48,560 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: Dallas score thirty one Cowboys, Uh thirty to thirteen. Um, Cowboys.

1232
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: I think I know where our hearts are. Cowboys. I'm

1233
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: sticking with the Vikings. I mean, I I don't think.

1234
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy. You're right, I'd probably

1235
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: pick him in every game. That's Greg's not breaking up.

1236
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with him. I mean, I think they have

1237
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: I think they have some some exciting, big games left

1238
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: in them, and this would be a season saver. It

1239
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: would end in that building in prime time. It wouldn't

1240
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: be the most stunning thing in the world. All right,

1241
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: that's it. Hey, before we go one more time Around

1242
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: the Horn we're talking about. Casey Affleck was on the

1243
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: Fresh Air podcast his first movie, the Gusts van Zend

1244
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: directed To Die For with Nicole Kidman. That was also

1245
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: the first date I ever went on, was to go

1246
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: see that movie. Great, great movie to die For when

1247
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: you're you know, a young boy, when you're fourteen. It's

1248
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: I didn't really get it at the time. It took

1249
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: a little time to figure it out. Around the Horn.

1250
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: First date movie that you saw came out December eleventh,

1251
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: nine five. It was well, I'm adi myself, but I'm

1252
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: proud of it. Jewel of the Jewel of the Nile movie. No,

1253
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: that's Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner and there. Yeah, date's name

1254
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Robin guys double date. I was still throwing rocks at

1255
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: girls old are you Mark? I was in sixth grade,

1256
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: h a boy of eleven. Our town moved fast. We

1257
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: were you know, we were not we were not a coold.

1258
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: You were going on a one on one movie date

1259
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: at age eleven. Well, our entire sixth grade class went

1260
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: to the same movie theater, and so it wasn't like

1261
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: I had to engineer the whole thing from complete scratch,

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Speaker 1: we counting that? Should we count that it was a

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Speaker 1: date that we were dating? For it? Did you pay

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Speaker 1: for it? Pay for her? Absolutely? Did you guys hold hands? Wait?

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Speaker 1: But did your parents pay for it? Listen? There's a

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Speaker 1: whole another narrative to this that I can tell you

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: about another time, A whole another narrative. What this was?

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Speaker 1: I was legitimately dating this this young woman. Yes, I was.

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01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: He was a girl. Wait what happened? What happened? I

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Speaker 1: can't get into that. There was a lot of there

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01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: was a lot of peer pressure from like very annoying

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Speaker 1: male friends, Mark because it was one of the few

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Speaker 1: dates probably happening in the theater, and there were a

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Speaker 1: gang of like coming up right behind me saying stuff

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Speaker 1: to us. And her name was Robin, a very nice girl,

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Speaker 1: and I feel bad for it. Relationship crumbled soon after

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Speaker 1: Mark before the show that something very disturbing was going

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Speaker 1: on in the theater. Well it was that it was

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Speaker 1: you had a peanut gallery. That was absolutely and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was unnecessary, all right, West, because I

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: was always friends with girls before we went out. I

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't really date until I was forty two years old.

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Speaker 1: But I do remember this last week. Back when I

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: was one and I was delivering mail, a girl who

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: grew up behind me asked me out when we went

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Speaker 1: to go see Casino, and I fell. I fell asleep

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Speaker 1: during the movie because I was getting up at like

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01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: five in the morning to go on my mail route

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Speaker 1: and like the date, like she wanted to go out again,

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01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, I fell asleep during.

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: I was going to say, like exciting, it's not a

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01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: it's not the best movie to like go necking too.

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: As Joe Peschi gets buried alive in a cornfield, I mean,

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: good luck trying to neck with somebody who's sleeping. Nick,

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Speaker 1: Who's why are you both still using that for noodle?

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Speaker 1: I don't really remember a whole lot in general, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know who knows, just you know, different things

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,919
Speaker 1: here and there. But the first date I can remember

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: that was at a movie theater. It was Armacgeddono, and

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: it was such a bad day. And every time I

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: heard that song that was popular, it just reminded me

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: of the date, and it just like would not stop

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: playing everything you thought you were Ben Affleck and lived

1304
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: Tyler around that lawn that they were lying on with

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01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: their animal Crackers. I needed to get out. The date

1306
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: was kind of not sanitary with the animal Cracker. No,

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't don't want to miss the thing.

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Speaker 1: That was a terrible song. Greg. Finally, um, I think

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: this was the first one, but I definitely remember it

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: because it was so bad. I saw Legends of the Fall,

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Speaker 1: all right. It was my freshman year of high school.

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Speaker 1: It was exciting because my girlfriend was Hopkins and brads

1313
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: like he became. It was a terrible movie. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't agree with that. That's how I remember. But it

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Speaker 1: was exciting because because I was dating. I was a

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: freshman and I was dating a junior. And I've seen

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: pictures of you. You're in fourteen, you you were more

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: muscular than you are now. She was. She had a

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01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: car which was Beware Renault, which is a car that

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: doesn't even exist anymore. Greg had really intimidating trap muscles

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: when he was fourteen, developed the first State movie Don't

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: go to a Brad Pitt film when he's just breaking out.

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01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: It's like, I think, I think the opposite. I think

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: that was why she wanted to go. You know, it's

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: like to compare you to kind of like in the mood.

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: He was already all right that I'm talking about dating

1327
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: the older girl. Good for you, all right, good job guys.

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: Love to die for Nicole Kidman. Um, it obviously stuck

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: with me. Sorry, no, no, that we're not gonna use

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: names here. Um, you should beat that out. Yeah, it's

1331
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: going to get beat the Yeah to die for at

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01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: the Pearl River Central Twin Theater. Since torn down, the

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Speaker 1: memories stay, the structures go away. We'll be back on Thursday, Yeah,

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: with a recap of the Thursday night game and maybe

1335
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: a decision on our relationship status of the Vikings. Probably not,

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: though it's great. Shrugs shoulders gives a dismissive. I ral,

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01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: we're not breaking up with them the day that they

1338
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys before, right before they beat the Cowboys.

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: Come on, that would be funny to break up with

1340
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: them before a Cowboys dramatic Cowboys win. Yeah, so we'll

1341
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: recap that game and then preview all the week thirteen

1342
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Speaker 1: games until then. Connie, you were a joyous Let's do

1343
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: it again soon and hands is signing off four Quiet Storm,

1344
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: The mail Man, Connie Fox, the Boss, and New Money

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: Behind the Glass. It's Thursday and now a word with

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Speaker 1: our sponsor. Born in Hans Roz was a Swedish medical doctor, academic, statician,

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: and public speaker. He is currently the Professor of International

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: Health at Karl Linsky Institute and co founder and chairman

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: of the Gapminder Foundation. Rosling is a noted mind in

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 1: the arena of developmental economics, and our friend and sponsor,

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Speaker 1: Mr Flame is here with us today to talk a

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: little Hans Rosling. Mr Epp, it's your birthday number one,

1353
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Thanks thanks Mark. I want to get right

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: down to it. What makes Hans Rosling a central figure

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: in the world of economic thought? Well, I think probably

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: the most important thing about someone like Hans Rosling is

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: that he brings to life the statistics that we teach

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Speaker 1: in class. So frequently in an economics class um the

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01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: statistics can seem dry or isolated in their applicability in

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: the world. And and Hans Rosling does an amazing job

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Speaker 1: with taking statistics and turning them into an explainable, interesting,

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: dynamic presentation. And he's an amazing speaker. So I he's

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: a professor of public health and I and I really

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: enjoy his TED talks and met him once at a

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01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 1: teacher conference, and he just was a really dynamic individual.

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Speaker 1: And so I like his shows and presenting his shows

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Speaker 1: to my kids to explain concepts with human development, UM

1368
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: and economic development, because they help bring the concepts alive.

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: I I watched one of the TED talks, well about

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01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: two minutes of it. Um got as much as I

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: could out of it. Would that presentation, in your mind,

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Speaker 1: have been better if the Today's Show's former host Jane

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: Pauli had been moderating the production. Well, I don't know.

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it would make it a different show for sure.

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they both would enjoy it,

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: but I'm not certain if if I could answer that

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: very well, He's so he was born in n not

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: exactly a millennial or one who would be you know,

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: the target to connect with millennials. But your class, um,

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 1: are they? Is he? Is he a big Is he

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01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: a big followship in your class? Are they a big

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: fans of Hans Rosling? Actually it's surprising he does appeal.

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: His shows are actually really his talks are really great

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: on on on Ted. He's one of the foremost downloaded

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: talks there. So yeah, I think students do like it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the idea of measuring a statistic is

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: is really important in economics. We we've been measuring, for example,

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: gross domestic products since the thirties extensively to try and

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01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: get a handle on how our national economics, our national

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: economy is doing. And we've also done sort of work

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: since the nineties with Human Development Index in a mathematical

1392
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: way to analyze like how we're doing with how people

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: are are their standard of living is measured, and so

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: in isolation those statistics they don't mean very much. But

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: when someone like Hans Roslin gets a hold of them,

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: what he can do is he can bring to life.

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: And so that's a great benefit to a teacher trying

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: to explain something which in isolation might appear kind of boring.

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: I read that when he was twenty there was something,

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, doctors diagnosed something wrong with his liver and

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01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: he can never drink again. Do you think it's a

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: good idea for um economists, especially economists in the in

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 1: the Netherlands or in in you know, outside of America,

1404
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: to stay sober? Oh? Oh, I I know. I think

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: that's a great tragedy that would be too bad if

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01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: they tried to do that. They'd miss out on a

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: lot of the benefit of living over here and close

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: to Belgium with their famous beer brewing. And hopefully my

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Speaker 1: students don't listen to this particular episode because we should

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: be studying, get back to work. They really should. I know. Also,

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Speaker 1: you know, just from talking to you a little bit

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Speaker 1: um over email in in Facebook, that you are an

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Speaker 1: avid bicyclist in the Nigue, in the Hague, the Netherlands.

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: Would you describe yourself as anti car anti automobile are you?

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01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: Is it some sort of movement that you're starting. I

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: think I think it was probably when we moved here,

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: we we didn't want to buy a car because they're

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01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: pretty expensive. But boy, it is an amazing way of

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: life to be able to ride your bike in Holland

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01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: on the in the Netherlands on the on the bike paths.

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01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: They are an amazing Uh. National infrastructure is incredible. You

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: can go anywhere at any time and you're safe on

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: the roads. So it is fantastic. And you are you've

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01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: been out of the states for some time. You don't uh,

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: you don't seem to appear on paper anywhere in terms

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: of owning an automobile. Are you potentially are you on

1427
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: the run yourself from the US government or something here

1428
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: in the United States. I'm not not not as far

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: as I know. I'm paying my taxes, I'm taking care

1430
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: of stuff on that. On that end, very good. Well,

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: happy birthday, thanks for being with us, and uh we'll

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Speaker 1: have you back soon and talk about another world famous

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: hot economic thinker. Thanks Mark, Thanks Sydney's. Happy Happy day

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 1: to all you on the all your heroes on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, be well. M