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Speaker 1: It is another edition of the Bark Tank. Everybody, we

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Speaker 1: are presented to you by Sugar Dale. Welcome back in

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Speaker 1: the home office in California after a late night in Denver.

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Speaker 2: My name is Andrews Siciliana.

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Speaker 1: We are happy, we are grateful, we are thankful that

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Speaker 1: you are here. Please like subscribe, tell your friends about

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Speaker 1: the Bark Tank today. It will not, sadly have Jamis

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Speaker 1: Winston barking at you, nor ranking Thanksgiving foods. Although make

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Speaker 1: a note of it. Maybe Jamis comes back for Christmas

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Speaker 1: to rank his favorite Christmas dinner dishes.

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Speaker 2: Just a thought in his place.

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Speaker 1: However, may I interest you in a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: quarterback Kurt Warner. Kurt is going to join us coming

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Speaker 1: up shortly as well. He called the game for Westwood

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Speaker 1: One last night with the great Kevin Harlan in Denver,

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Speaker 1: and what a game it was. As always, we sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, I often say it's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite lines. There was a lot to unpack, and last

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Speaker 1: night was no different. The snow Globe game you're going

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Speaker 1: to remember for a long long time, and the Browns

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Speaker 1: one obviously it felt different. It was the Steelers, obviously

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Speaker 1: it felt different. Last night there was so much good

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Speaker 1: and you are going to be talking about it for

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Speaker 1: a long long time. Maybe not for all the right reasons,

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Speaker 1: but there is so much good to take from it,

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Speaker 1: and it was one of those ones. We're walking out

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Speaker 1: not afraid to say it because the Denver Bronco has

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Speaker 1: ruined my childhood. But walking out of that building in

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Speaker 1: that environment last night, I don't know how I feel

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Speaker 1: like from one perspective, five hundred and fifty two net

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Speaker 1: yards is pretty good. The fourth best offensive night in

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Speaker 1: David Ajoku with two touchdowns pretty great. Jerry Judy with

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Speaker 1: last year on Christmas Eve with his two sixty five

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Speaker 1: the way, he would have had three hundred yards if

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Speaker 1: Jameis hadn't missed him on that one deep ball early.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when we talk about Flipper Anderson right here

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Speaker 1: Jamis hadn't missed him early. There is so much positive

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Speaker 1: Jamis with four ninety seven, four ninety seven and four.

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Speaker 2: But there were the two pick sixes.

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Speaker 1: There were one hundred and seventy some yards of returns

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Speaker 1: both teams through the air, most yards ever in the

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Speaker 2: That was the night that we saw. But man, it

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell them anytime. Second, third, fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: Nathan and I in the booth. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Nathan had a great game. Just because Gabe the Intern

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Speaker 1: doesn't include Nathan's highlights on Cleveland Browns Daily doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Nathan didn't have a great game. But I can't have

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Speaker 1: many times joking aside. We came back and we're like, man,

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Speaker 1: This is fun, like football is fun. To have the

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Speaker 2: Game was fun and.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers game should be fun on Sunday as well.

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Speaker 1: It isn't a standalone game, but it's Nansen romo to

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Speaker 1: a lot of America. CBS does now the best schedule

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Speaker 1: this week, so you get the Browns and the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: rivalry renewed for the second time in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: And this game is again a reminder that even with

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Speaker 1: But he pointed out what I'm getting to is that

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy for Jamis in that regard. The numbers

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Speaker 1: I remember that game and I'm right as the game

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Speaker 1: in which Rich Carlos missed a feel goal to send

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Speaker 1: missed the kick. It was wide left. Everybody knows it.

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Speaker 1: One of these as, I'm going to produce a documentary

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Speaker 1: But do you know who the Broncos legends, right? You

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Speaker 1: and honored him on the field in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: You know who it was.

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Speaker 1: It was Rich Carlos, the barefoot kicker. He had both

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Speaker 1: You trotted out Rich Carlos with the Browns in town.

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Speaker 1: It's bad enough that ESPN and CBS and Fox and

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Speaker 1: every every network whenever the Browns have played the Broncos

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Speaker 2: It is going to be must see TV unless.

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Speaker 1: You're Mike Tomlin, who was asked on the podium Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: How are you doing well?

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Speaker 1: And you feel it for Jamis too. You saw the reaction,

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Speaker 5: Jamis played a great game last night. He did so

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Speaker 5: it's those one or two mistakes that you make that become,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Kurt Warner here call the game on Westwood.

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Speaker 1: You can check out. By the way, Kurt has great

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Speaker 1: insight every week on a YouTube channel, Quarterback Confidential, Kurt

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Speaker 1: Owners Quarterback Confidential, check it out on YouTube. Does like

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Speaker 3: He's your guy. But if you don't feel like you

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Speaker 5: That can overcome that, that's why I think the last

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Speaker 5: couple of years he's remained a backup.

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Speaker 3: Not because he's not good enough, not because he can't.

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Speaker 5: Make plays, but because there's not enough teams out there

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Speaker 5: that say we're good enough to overcome a mistake or

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Speaker 5: two like that, a big mistake or two like that,

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Speaker 5: and still win football games.

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Speaker 1: Last thing for it, Yeah, the pregame speech. I know

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Speaker 1: you were good at it, you were very good at it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm looking down at my phone. Here what Jami

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Speaker 1: has said last night?

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Speaker 2: Kurt? Did you ever say I don't care about No

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Speaker 2: Mile High.

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Speaker 1: I care about how the Browns get down and multiply,

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Speaker 1: or I guess how the Rams get down and multiply.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever rhyme any of your biblically inspired pregame speeches.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: And I mean the biggest thing for me is nothing

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Speaker 5: that I did was ever was ever worked out ahead

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Speaker 5: of time? You know, like I remember Drew Brees and

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Speaker 5: he would have his chance that he worked on ahead

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Speaker 5: of time. And obviously you know that line there doesn't

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Speaker 5: just come out of thin air where you just oh,

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Speaker 5: it just rhymes, and you know that to me, it

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Speaker 5: was never measured like that. When for me, when if

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Speaker 5: I felt like I wanted to get up in front

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Speaker 5: of the guys and say something, it was kind of

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Speaker 5: whatever I was feeling in that moment, or you know,

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Speaker 5: feeling led to, you know, to give some kind of speech,

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Speaker 5: or we need to kind of you know, go a

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Speaker 5: little bit farther this week or whatever. So no, that

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Speaker 5: was not that was not my thing. You know, I

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Speaker 5: wasn't premeditated. And when I was going to get up

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Speaker 5: and talk to guys, and again, some guys are great

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Speaker 5: at it, and some guys you expected from.

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Speaker 3: Them each and every week.

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Speaker 5: My approach was most times guys didn't expect me to

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Speaker 5: be that guy. So it carried a little more weight

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Speaker 5: when I did decide to be that guy ord decide

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Speaker 5: to get up and say something to guys. But you

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Speaker 5: know me better than that. You know I'm not up

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Speaker 5: there rhyman. I'm not dropping lyrics, I'm not using rap

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Speaker 5: songs in my motivational speech.

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Speaker 3: To the guys, that's just not my style.

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Speaker 1: That that feels like a game day morning segment to

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Speaker 1: be had.

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Speaker 2: If somebody, oh my gosh, don't put it.

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Speaker 5: Don't put this out there, because you know it'll it'll

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Speaker 5: show up that way.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: Catch him every Sunday, NFL Network Game Day Morning, every

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Speaker 1: Monday evening as well, Dallas. I believe this coming week

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Speaker 1: Week fourteen with Kevin Harlan on Westwood One for Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and as QB Confidential on YouTube. Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Confidential on YouTube. Check that out, which is always

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Speaker 1: great stuff as well.

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Speaker 2: Currt.

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays you and Brenda, you and the family. Hope

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Speaker 1: to see you on the road somewhere soon. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: doing this.

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Speaker 3: Man, you met my friend. I was good to talk

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Speaker 3: to you. Great to see you last night, and happy

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Speaker 3: holidays see you as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Thank you Kurt Warner. Everybody love Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: Awesome that I was able to do this while driving

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Speaker 1: and right after getting a haircut. Okay, speaking of driving,

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Speaker 1: Browns are driving to Pittsburgh for Week fourteen. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with another edition of the Bar Tank. It is well,

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Speaker 1: it is divisional football when you have to play a

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Speaker 1: team two times in three weeks, the Steelers have more

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Speaker 1: rest for this one. The Browns didn't really get back

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Speaker 1: to the Cross Country Mortgage Campus until like five in

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Speaker 1: the morning ish Tuesday. The Steelers, if you think about this,

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Speaker 1: were done with their game by four o'clock on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers here have the decided advantage. But the

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Speaker 1: Browns had the advantage when they faced the Steelers at

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Speaker 1: home in the snow two weeks ago, because the home

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Speaker 1: team always on Thursday, has the advantage. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: for another Bark Tank episode after that game. Full disclosure,

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Speaker 1: I have never been to a game in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Strange but true.

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Speaker 1: All my years at NFL Network, we never had a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game in the years that I was on

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Speaker 1: the road for T and F in Pittsburgh. When I

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Speaker 1: was with the Rams, we certainly never played a preseason

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Speaker 1: game in Pittsburgh. Did play one in Cincinnati, and did

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Speaker 1: play one in Cleveland. It did play one in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: but did not play in Pittsburgh. And I've done training

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Speaker 1: camp shows there like Latrobe, and we've done training camp

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Speaker 1: shows inside training camp live at Akroscher wasn't called Akrosher

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Speaker 1: at the time, called Hines. We've done shows in the stadium,

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Speaker 1: but my very first time there at a game. It'll

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Speaker 1: be nice to see the brown sweep the Steelers. How

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Speaker 1: many years has it been? Do you do? You know

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Speaker 1: the answer? It's been twenty one years since the Browns

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Speaker 1: won in Pittsburgh in the regular season. Obviously, the Glorious

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Speaker 1: Night in twenty twenty in the postseason is a different chapter,

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Speaker 1: a chapter upon which at about which they should one

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Speaker 1: day make a glorious movie Sheldrick RedWine and Company picking

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Speaker 1: off Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I digress.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching The Bark Tank presented by Sugardale Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 2: We thank him as well.

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrew Siciliano likes subscribe, Tell your friends

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