1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ronananian, the Car Doctor, nationally recognized auto 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: expert trusted by mechanics, weekend wrenchers and vehicle owners alike. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Ron brings over forty years of hands on experience and 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. Join 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: The Conversation Live every Saturday from two to four pm 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: Eastern by calling eight five to five five six zero 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five five 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to honest 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit cardoctorshow dot 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's latest insights, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to The Car Doctor YouTube 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. Now 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: start your engines. The Car Doctor is into garage and 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Ronanani and the Car Doctor. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: I want to talk to you today about something that 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: may sound small. It may sound like I'm being petty, 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: but I don't think so, and I want your opinion. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: I really do, because if you're the mechanic trying to 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: fix the car, this matters a lot. Tell me if 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: this sounds familiar, whether you're the owner, the consumer, the customer, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: or you're a fellow technician out there. You drop off 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: your vehicle for service, and you know, maybe it's breaks. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a check engine light at a transmission, concern 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: of vibration, something anything, an oil change where they're going 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: to drive it around the block. You get in the 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: driver's seat, you turn the key on, you start it up, 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: or you push the button and that bright yellow message 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: on the dashboard says ten miles to empty, twenty four 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: miles to empty. The gas gauge is buried so far 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: below e it's begging for mercy. Well I get it, 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, Well I don't actually I don't know what 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: you guys are thinking to do this? You drop the 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: car off ten miles to go tell empty? You know 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: one of the key things in mechanic worries about it. 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: You're out on a road test. Are you going to 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: make it back to the shop? And are you going 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: to make it back to the shop on a problem 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: vehicle that has enough fuel in it? There's enough chance 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: we take with an intermittent. Hey, it stalls and it 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: won't restart for a half hour. Let's go diagnose that 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: now let's do that on an empty tank of fuel. 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta have enough gas in the car 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: to repair it, because you've got to be able to 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: Just because you got it into the shop doesn't mean 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: I can work on it. 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: See, what you guys. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Don't realize is a lot of what we do today 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: is in parts replacement, that repair. Whatever I'm doing, whether 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: it's an oil change or I just want to do 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: a final road check to whether I'm seating brake pads 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: that I've just replaced brakes and I want to seat 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: the pads and drive it for four to six miles 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: or whatever the case is. A repair is done when 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I verify it, when the attending mechanics says, hey, I 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: did a road test. Everything seems good. I went five miles. 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's five miles, sometimes it's twenty. Sometimes we have 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: to duplicate an intermittent problem, and when we know we 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: hit that mileage mark where it happened the last time, 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: or that engine condition where it happened the last time. 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: We go, hey, it's fixed. 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: You know. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes we've got to run a drive cycle, and that 64 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: takes driving safely legally, not. 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: On pins and needles. There's enough that. 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: You know, there's enough things to that make you nervous 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: in this job. You know you can't fix a car, 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: take a road test, look for a problem, look at 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: scan tooled data, watch a fuel pressure cage, and all 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: the other things that you might have hooked up to 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: a vehicle. Wondering do you I wonder if that gas 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: gage is right? Am I really going to make it 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: back to the shop? And where am I going to 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: get stuck? I better bring my cell phone with me 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: this way, Danny can come get me with a five 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: gallon can of gas. You know you just repaired brakes. 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: You know what proper break in procedure, several moderate stops. 78 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: You're going to slow down, you're gonna speed up. You're 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: gonna have different road speeds, different loads. 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Maybe listen. Sometimes it takes us ten minutes. 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: They put this protective coating on brake rotors now, and 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: it'll take eight to ten minutes to burn that coating 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: off because it creates a slight pulsating pedal until it's gone. 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: So now you know, how do you give it back 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: to the customer? Hey, your breaks are done. Fifteen hundred 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: dollars and you got a pulsating pedal drive it three 87 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: miles you get the pulse to go away. I have 88 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: to do that for you. That's part of what I do. 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: What if I'm out doing a road test and the 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: complaint is it stalls at random, and it stalls and 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: it's three miles to empty, How do I know it's 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: really three miles to empty? Maybe the gas gage is broken, 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: and maybe it's really zero miles till empty. You know, 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: if I've got to go out to the road with 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: a gas can, who's paying for that? And that's the 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: other That's the thing I really want the answer to. 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: How do I remedy this? What do I say to customers, 98 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: because you know, the evil side of me wants to 99 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: condemn them to the block, you know, off. 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: With their heads. It's it's just so ridiculu. Who assumes 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: the risk? 102 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: Right, You've got diagnostics, you've got break repair, you've got 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: road tests for whatever reason. 104 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Who assumes the risk? 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: It's and then what if I make it and I 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: only drive the vehicle says ten I had a car 107 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: this week, it says ten miles still empty. 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: I refuse to work on the car. 109 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: I said, you know I've got if I make it 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: nine miles and I give the car back to you 111 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: with one mile to go and the gas station is 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: two miles away. 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: How does that math work? And what if I'm checking 114 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: a fuel pump. If the fuel pump. 115 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: Is the problem, and I see falling fuel pressure when 116 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm going up a slight incline and the gas gage 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: says ten miles to empty? Did all the fuel slash 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: to the back of the tank? Do I have an issue? 119 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: Here's something else you gotta consider, And maybe if you're 120 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: doing this, you'll break the habit all fuel pumps today, 121 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: most fuel pumps today, the majority of fuel pumps today 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: live inside the gas tank. What cools that pump? Anybody 123 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: want to tell me? Fuel cools that pump? 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: All right? 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: It's the medium that carries the heat away run a 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: vehicle near empty all the time, and that pump spends 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: more time running hotter than it should. And I'm not 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: saying every low tank destroys a pump, but operating it 129 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: on fumes to maximum sure doesn't help. And that's what 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: you've got to consider. Are you setting yourself up for 131 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: a two thousand dollars fuel pump? And it's so easy 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: to avoid All you've got to do is go to 133 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: a gas station. 134 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: It's not hard. I don't understand. 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: So what does a repair shop do? What are we 136 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: supposed to do? And this is where it really gets 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: interesting because I started talking to other shops this week 138 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 3: and nobody seems to have a solution other. 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: Than harsh ones. You know, do we absorb the inconvenience? 140 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Do we? You know? 141 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: Listen, time is what we sell. We sell you time 142 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: and parts. We sell you a repair. But if you 143 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: break that repair down. 144 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: What is it? 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: It's time spent and parts used, it's material and labor. 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: Do we absorb that inconvenience? Do I send Danny out 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: while he's on the clock, Dan, go put gas in 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: this car and come back. That'll take fifteen minutes. There's 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: no gas station right around the corner. But even if 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: there is, why are we breaking the flow of repair? 151 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Do we stop what we're doing? Okay, the Volkswagon came up, 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: it's time to fix the Volkswagon. Well, let's stop what 153 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: we're doing on the other three cars and we'll run 154 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: the Volkswagon over the gas station and put gas in it. 155 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: And then how do we charge the customer? Because don't 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: we charge it shouldn't we charge the customer for that? 157 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: It's time spent, isn't that What we're selling is time. 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: If the customer arrives with insufficient fuel. My thought is 159 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: the customer's got to pay to go put gas in 160 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: the car. But you got to see the look on 161 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: people's facemen. I tell them, well, this seventy five dollars 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: line item here was because we took us fifteen minutes. 163 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: We had to go over to the gas station and buy, 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, thirty dollars worth of fuel, and the rest 165 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: of it is time spent until we got back to 166 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: the shop, because putting gas in a car becomes a labor. 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Operation, doesn't it. 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: You know, leave the shop, drive to the gas station, 169 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: wait for the train to go by, wait for the 170 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: traffic light to change, wait in line on one or 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: two cars. Mid morning by fuel return. Oh yeah, where 172 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: was I when we get my mojo back and think 173 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: about the repair again? 174 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: Right? 175 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what I was doing. And by the 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,359 Speaker 3: time we're done, I've consumed time. And time is inventory 177 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: to a repair shop, not just mine every one of 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: them out there. When inventory is consumed when you use 179 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: a quart of oil, when you use an air filter, 180 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: an oil filter, somebody pays for it. That's time, that's material. 181 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: Think about any other profession before you say, hey, Ron, 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: you're being a little harsh and you're being a little ridiculous. 183 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: I had a lawyer this week. I'm going to pick 184 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: on lawyers for a minute. Not that they're so hard 185 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: to pick on. They're kind of an easy target. But 186 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: that's okay, no offense intended. But some of them are 187 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: just silly. Dropped off a twenty ten jeep Wrangler that 188 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: I hadn't seen in seven months. 189 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: It was way over due. I hadn't seen probably close 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,239 Speaker 2: to ten months. 191 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: Actually, And we went through it and we did what 192 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: we had to do in terms of what does this 193 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: vehicle need. Well, you bring the vehicle in, it's got 194 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy thousand miles on it, it's got 195 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: some rust issues, it's got some rot issues. We go 196 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: through a two page checklist, we scan it for codes. 197 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: We come back with the laundry list of things that 198 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: it's going to need. The cracked exhaust manifold, the rotted 199 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: out transmission cross member, structural things, safety things, things that 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 3: are really going to run, the repair, things that are 201 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: going to dictate whether or not this vehicle is repairrable 202 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: within modest means, and his decision I think he made 203 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: the right one was to. 204 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Bail on the vehicle. It was time vehicle. 205 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: By the time we added everything up, was going to 206 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: need between six and eight grand worth of work and 207 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: it was sixteen years old. And he said, do we 208 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: owe you anything? 209 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: Now. 210 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: I don't know if he said that on the basis of, hey. 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: Do we owe you anything? Like what do we owe you? 212 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Or it was more along the lines of, there's a 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: charge for today. I want to find a lawyer's office 214 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: where I can go in and get fifty minutes of 215 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: free legal advice, and not the kind that they're trying 216 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: to get me to use them for something I needed 217 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: a lawyer for, but like reasonable, realistic information that brings 218 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: my problem to a conclusion. You know, you've got to 219 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: control the repair. You've got to manage expectations in a 220 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: repair shop. At the shop, I've learned that solving expectations 221 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: help solve problem before they become big ones. If you 222 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: bring your vehicle into a shop with low fuel light, 223 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: if you bring your vehicle into a shop within sufficient 224 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: fuel to perform the repair, whatever it might be expect 225 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: additional charges, not just the price of fuel. Mechanics are 226 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: not gas jockeys, right, They're mechanics. They've got to be 227 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: able to fix the car. Nobody likes surprises. That includes 228 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: the repair shop. And if we don't add fuel, and 229 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: if we skip the road test because there isn't enough 230 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: to take it on a road test, and we give 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: you back the vehicle, and hey, you're all sitting ready 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: to go. 233 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: What if you're not? And now your vehicle needs to 234 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: be diagnosed and repaired again. I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. 235 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: When you come back, I'll be here to take your calls, 236 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: whatever they might be, because I'm prepared. 237 00:11:45,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: My tank is full. I'll see in a little bit. Hey, 238 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: let's go over to Billy in Colorado. Billy, we'll come back. 239 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: What's going on today? Kiow? 240 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron's sure? 241 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: What's cooking? 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 3: So? 243 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 244 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: Recently, I had a car in that I had done 245 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 4: the brakes on two years earlier, and I've been using 246 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: CRC breakrease for a few years because that's what they 247 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: had a big jar of at the autopart store. And 248 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: I used the CRC on that car two years ago. 249 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: And when I pulled the brake off the other day 250 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: to changed the axel in this car, I discovered that 251 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: the caliber slide were all gummed up. They were barely moving. 252 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: So I'm looking for a different brand of break grease. 253 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: And I think I recall you saying something about ac Delco, 254 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: but I wanted to follow up on that. 255 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: Ac Delco makes their whitish clear break grease, and I 256 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: don't remember the part number. Comes in a little little 257 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: brush bottle can type of setup, probably a four ounce can. 258 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: But let me ask you this, what what version of 259 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: CRC break grease were you using? 260 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: Is there's two? 261 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: It is? Okay, let's see here. I'm holding the jar 262 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: right now looking for a part number. It says Synthetic 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: Breaking Caliber Grease. 264 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: Is it great? 265 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: Part number is five? No, it's purple to five three 266 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: five nines. 267 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: Part okay. 268 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: They make a grave version. And I'm trying to remember 269 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: what the part number is. It's it's it's a silicate 270 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: base they call it, which seems to be a higher heat. 271 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: What what sort of application is this? 272 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: Is this? Is this a work truck or something or 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: is this an everyday vehicle drivers? It's a daily driver. 274 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: The Toyota highlander. 275 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: Wait, a lot of off road stuff you think billy or. 276 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 4: No team driver. But aside from that, pretty pretty normal. 277 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, roaders scored, cooked, overheated. 278 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: No, no breaks are fine. Just the the slides where 279 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: I was not happy with the way the slides were moving. 280 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, unusual, all right. 281 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: We use the CRC silicate in the shop and we 282 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: haven't had any issues with it. 283 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Not like that. 284 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: I've had a few cases where the person was high 285 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: water conditions and over time, after about two years in 286 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: the one vehicle's case, it washed everything away and it 287 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: created a problem. But the stuff does hold up. I've 288 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: slowly switched to the CRC in some of those applications, 289 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: specifically for that where I'm using it for that. So 290 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: just just be mindful. The dust boots and the slide 291 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: boots weren't penetrated. They were everything sealed. 292 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: No, and I replaced them in the last job, so 293 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: everything was good, right. 294 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, But yeah, you can look at the 295 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: Delco stuff and try that. My suspicion is it will 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: probably happen. Also again, because I think you've got something 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: environmental going on. I think you've got something in the 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: way that they're driving it or storing it. I had 299 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: a fourteen Suberreu in the shop this week. Two years 300 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: and six thousand miles ago. We did four wheel brakes 301 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: and the rear brakes were metal on metal on the 302 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: left side. So I looked at it and we pads, Roders, calipers, 303 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, breake, grease everything, you know, nice, nice, and 304 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: looked at it and I talked to the vehicle owner 305 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: about it, and she lives up at the top of 306 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: a mountain. And the left side of the car, the 307 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: left rear, the left side because the left front caliber 308 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: was dragging. The left rear brake was metal on metal. 309 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: That's the side that faces the street. So when the 310 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: snowplot comes by, we figured out it buries the car 311 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: and all the chemical is now, and that explained why 312 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: the left side of the car was rusting three times 313 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: as fast as the right, and the chemical just worked 314 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: its way into the brake system and eventually caused everything 315 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: to rot and lock up. 316 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: So sometimes it's environment. 317 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: When you don't see it, you know it's it's Sometimes 318 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: it's as simple as how are they parking the car. 319 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: She also pointed out that she has a big problem 320 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: with dog walkers in her neighborhood. I don't have to 321 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: think about this one. But she said, the dogs keep 322 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: peeing on the wheels. 323 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: Uh, that's weird, you know. Yeah, I've had everything in 324 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: the world, but never car tire. 325 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, she says, for some reason, they all like to 326 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: pee on her car tire. And I'm like, well, but 327 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: it makes sense. There's acid in urine, right, so it 328 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: kind of makes sense in that sense of the world. 329 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: But you know, try the ac Delco stuff if I 330 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: think of it. If if you want, shoot me an 331 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: email after the show. When I get to the shop 332 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: on Monday, I'll look up the part number and I'll 333 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: send it to you. 334 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: Cool right, and the CRC you said he used the 335 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: silicate and that works well. 336 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the silicate works really well. I will also send 337 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: you that part number. I don't remember it off the 338 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: top of my head if I If I remember right, 339 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: it comes in a blue and black whitish tube. I'm 340 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: trying to recall what it looks like. So I actually 341 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: take it out of the tube and I put it 342 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: into a bottle brush set up because it's just easier 343 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: to use it. I like, I like little bottle brushes, 344 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You know, like the acid 345 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: brush set up, just because to me, it's an easier way. Otherwise, 346 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: if I if I put it on with the dispense 347 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: it out of the tube, it's like toothpaste, and then 348 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: I have to kind of smush it around. Yeah, you know, 349 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: and then your hands are dirty, you've got grit on 350 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: your fingertip. At least this way the brush tip is 351 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: clean and it stays inside the jar so it doesn't 352 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: have contaminant from the shop floating around. 353 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: So all right, Hey, well thanks Ron. 354 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: Anytime, Billy. Everything else good? 355 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, keep them gudye man in the summer, 356 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: you know. 357 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, take some time off, stop working so hard. 358 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. You know. 359 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Well listen, somebody once told me, and they said this 360 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: to me the other day. They said, you know, you're 361 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: on a train ride and the scenery's going by it 362 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: at fifty miles an hour. 363 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: Some days you got to get off and enjoy the 364 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: view right where you're at. 365 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: And so if you'll like it, say, you know what, 366 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: we're halfway through summer, Bill, it's August. Enjoy the train ride, 367 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: Enjoy the scenery. Always good to hear from you and 368 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: my friend. I'm running ay in the car doctor eight 369 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: five five five six oh nine nine zero zero. 370 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: I'm back right after this from the seat streets to 371 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: the open route in nine. If you ride, he Ron'll 372 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: keep you rolling a ride. 373 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a car doctor. Sam in the Bronx running 374 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: in in the car doctor at your service, sir? 375 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: How can I help? 376 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 6: Hello? 377 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: Yes, sir Sam, how can I help? What's going on? 378 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 379 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: That's for taking my call. So I've been dealing with 380 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 6: some health issues for the last eight months, and I 381 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: have a two thousand and six pt Cruise that I 382 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 6: have and I started. I want to know what I 383 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: can do prior to trying to start it and what 384 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 6: possible consequences in the car have after eight months or 385 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: so from just sitting around. 386 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 3: Is it really eight months? 387 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 6: I believe? 388 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, it's well, and I say that it's 389 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: not two years. No, okay, you know we are our 390 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 3: mind plays tricks on us, right. Oh yeah, we just 391 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: did that seven years ago, so you know, time time 392 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: flies by? 393 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: Okay? Does the engine still turn over? Does a crank? 394 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 6: As I said, I haven't started it. I haven't gone 395 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 6: up the cars in another state. I'm in the Bronx, 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 6: but it's up in Connecticut, and I haven't been up 397 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 6: there because I had problems with my heart, my legs 398 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: and all kinds of stemps put it all over the place, 399 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: right right, So I'm thinking of going up there. It 400 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 6: not this this weekend, but the following weekend. 401 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: How many miles are on it that you recall just un. 402 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: To thirty thou wow? Yeah, okay, so forget that it's 403 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: sat for eight months. 404 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: My first question would be was the timing belt ever 405 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: replaced in this car? 406 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 6: Probably not, That's a good question. 407 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. 408 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 6: I don't believe the timing belts haven't been changed. 409 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 3: So I would want to take the top plastic cover 410 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: off of the timing cover and or you know, can 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: I see the timing belt? 412 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: You should be able to. 413 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: Now in six o six was the last year of 414 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: the bulletin from Chrysler that talked about a redesigned timing 415 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: belt and cover. Uh so I would I would want 416 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: to go by Vin and look to see is that 417 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: bolton applicable to that vehicle, because if you do do 418 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: a timing belt, there is a different timing belt cover 419 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: kit available for that by now you and you may 420 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: even see it. Some of the some parts of the 421 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: timing cover may have warped because it was plastic, and 422 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: it may leave the belt exposed and susceptible to you know, 423 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: bad things getting in there, you know. 424 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 2: But I just you know. 425 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: But my real question would be does the engine turn 426 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: off if it has a good battery, you know, does 427 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: it have oil? 428 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Does it have coolant in it? You know? Will it 429 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: fire if it fires? 430 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: You know? 431 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Does it have a lifter tick? How long? 432 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 3: I'd love to see it crank? Maybe we could, and 433 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: you can't really because it's hard. If I recall correctly, 434 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: the ignition coil has as a is an accessible condition 435 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: up top. 436 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: I think it's on top of the valve cover. 437 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: If I recall correctly, I'd love to unplug the coil 438 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: and crank it until the oil light goes out right, 439 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 3: and then at that point plug it back in and 440 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: fire it up. I'm trying to remember where the coil 441 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: is from twenty years ago, but I think it's accessible. 442 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: But I do think you have to pull the planum 443 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: to do wires because I think the center to wires 444 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: were hard to get at. But you can get to 445 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: the coil. But either that or find the fuel pump 446 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 3: fuse and disable the fuel pump and just get it 447 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: to the point so that it cranks and builds oil pressure. 448 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Provided the oil is clean. When was the last time 449 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: the oil was changed. It's been eight months. 450 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 6: Well, I haven't, Like I said, I haven't driven it. 451 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: I if I'd put four thousand miles a year on 452 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 6: the car, that's a lot right. 453 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: Well, when was the last oil change? A year ago, 454 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: ten years ago, five years ago? 455 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: The aill change was probably about a year ago. 456 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: Okay, So the oil should be fairly clean because you 457 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: haven't put a lot of miles on it. And that's 458 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: my point for cranking. For cranking, I'm okay with it 459 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: just to get it to fire, but I would I 460 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: would get it to fire, or if you want, change 461 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: the oil before you fire it up. But I'd sure 462 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: would love to see if the engine turns over. There 463 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: is a bolt on the front of the crank pulley, 464 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: if I recall correctly, you should be able to get 465 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: to that if you get the car up in the 466 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: air on jack stands or ramps or on a lift. 467 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: Just make sure it's secure. Obviously, we don't want you 468 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: underneath here if there's a problem, and you should be 469 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: able to crank it by hand. But well, eight months 470 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: sounds like a long time. I think your bigger problem 471 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 3: is going to be with brakes. I think the brake 472 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: roaders are going to be rusty, and I think you're 473 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: gonna end up doing some brakework to it because you're 474 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: probably gonna find driving it, the breaks make all sorts 475 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: of sounds. You know that that that dry, harsh, metallic sound, 476 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: even though it's not metal on metal, it's it's brake 477 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: pad on rust. 478 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: And I don't know that. 479 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that driving it is going to clean 480 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: it up. So and then of course, you know, once 481 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: you do get it to start, and you know, make 482 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: sure there's coolant in it and any puddles under the car, 483 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But you know, once you do 484 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: get it to start, then at this point, if you're 485 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: going to start driving it again, right, you know, if 486 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: it's wet, change it, change all the fluids, because I 487 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: bet you, I bet you've never done the transfluid in 488 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: that car. 489 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: I bet you even never. 490 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: I bet you probably haven't done coolant, have you? 491 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: No, I never did this training. 492 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: Right, So, twenty year old transfluid, When was the last 493 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: time you did coolant. 494 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: Years ago. 495 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: Okay, good out, good good, So I don't think. 496 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be stuck, not if 497 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: it's not. 498 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 3: If it's really eight months, all right, But I would 499 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: just be cautious, get it to fire, make sure the 500 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: oil pressure light goes out, because I don't believe that 501 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: car is going to have a gauge. 502 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: I never saw one with a gauge. 503 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: Know that that timing belt is probably more than two 504 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: and if that belt breaks it in theory, it's supposed 505 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: to be a bender that motor, it will bend. It 506 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: will bend, valves, pistons collide, et cetera. So you know, 507 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: but I would get at the fire and reference any 508 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: shop management system, go look up the bulletins for it. 509 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: I am fairly certain that was one of the ones 510 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: that was applicable to a timing belt revision. And know 511 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: that that kit was only available from Christler. I never 512 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: saw that kid outside in the aftermarket. 513 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 6: So another question I have is if I change the oil, 514 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 6: should I go with a lighter No? 515 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 2: Why? Why? 516 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, just to make things smooth, like you know, 517 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: I don't want to thick oil in there. 518 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: No use, use whatever, neural viscosity is what to drive 519 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: the vehicle on. 520 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 6: No, No, just like. 521 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: Can I see it to clean it out? 522 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: Not to clean it out, but you know, a thicker 523 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 6: oil I would think would take longer to go into 524 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 6: like the cylinder gaskets and stuff like that. 525 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, no, because listen, don't start, don't start 526 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: reinventing the wheel, trust me. Eight months isn't eight months? 527 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Isn't that long a period of time in the grand 528 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: scheme of things. I think your concerns are going to 529 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: be more with rubber components that have got to set 530 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: to them and possibly get noisy. If the timing belt 531 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: has never been changed in twenty years, I'd be more concerned. 532 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: Is it cracking? So but before I tell you to 533 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: change the timing belt, I'd love to hear it fire. Okay, 534 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 3: it starts, it runs, it runs smooth, good, shut it off. 535 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: Change the timing belt, and you know I'd be more concerned. 536 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: Or biggest concern is what's the quality of the fuel? 537 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: You know? 538 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: How how you know gasoline? They say loses its pop 539 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: after forty five days. 540 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 6: The last time. The last time, as I said, about 541 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: eight months ago, it was in the winter time. And 542 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 6: I put that stuff in that I used to put 543 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 6: on my boat. What is that called? 544 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: I can't Yeah, whatever, it was fuel stabilizer. But it's 545 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: a it's eight months ago. Listen, Yeah, you know it's 546 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: it's exceeded it's life cycle. It's at the point now 547 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: where those are the three concerns I've got. 548 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 2: And if it fires, it fires. 549 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: If it does, then you know, start looking at rubber parts, 550 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: start looking at the rest of the fluid, provided you're 551 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: going to start to drive it again. But I'm willing 552 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: to bet you're gonna have a dead battery to start 553 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: to bring a charger or jump box, et cetera, and 554 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: check all the fluids before you do fire it up. 555 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: But I bet it does turn over, and I bet 556 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: it fires, provided the fuel is still good. 557 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: Good luck. 558 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: Let us know what happens. I'm run an Ady in 559 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: the car Doctor. We're back right after this. 560 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: Puck back running Ny in the car. 561 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: Doctor eighty five five five six nine nine zero zero. 562 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: Let's go to Michael Louisiana. Mike, what's going on? 563 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: Hey, Bud? How you doing? 564 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: Good man? What's cooking? Hey? 565 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: Uh, well, I almost forgot what I wanted to talk 566 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: to you. 567 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 4: I sent a message last week and you. 568 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 5: Got called me and say, hey, man, get on the air. 569 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: So I finally remembered what I'm calling about. Is I 570 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: have a twenty nineteen ram fifteen hundred rebels. Okay. Now, 571 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 5: I've asked the dealership, and I've asked a couple of 572 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: old school mechanics about changing the transmission food and I 573 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 5: looked it up and they say dodd says it's lifetime. 574 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: But I just don't believe that. I don't. I don't 575 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 5: believe it. And I've had the truck. It's at nineteen 576 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: I've had it for I've had it for five years, 577 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 5: and I got one hundred and twenty three thousand miles 578 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: on it. I can't do it myself. But would you 579 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: recommend a transmission change at one hundred and twenty three 580 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 5: thousand miles fluid change? If so, what would I what 581 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: would be the best to go with? What I go with, 582 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: what Dodge recommends or what? 583 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, I'm gonna change the trans fluid kind of guy, 584 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: all right, But and I'll tell you why, all right, 585 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: Because if the transflu if changing the fluid is going 586 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: to cause the problem, that means there's something else wrong 587 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: with the trans that the fluid change magnifies, and I'd 588 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: like to find out about it sooner rather than later. 589 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: In my opinion, anything over one hundred thousand miles is 590 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: ripe for a trans it just is. I just see 591 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: it all the time, all right, you know, I'll get 592 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: an engine to three hundred thousand miles, but it doesn't 593 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: seem to matter. It's it's not odd, but it's just, 594 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty for 595 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: a trans that seems to be what they are. But 596 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: changing the fluid will make it go longer. So I 597 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: think that I think the pros outweigh the cons if 598 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm making sense. Chrysler's trans this is this is the 599 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: Trands with the plastic pan, right, the plastic filter. 600 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes it is, yea, yes, the ZR. 601 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: And the issue here is that the filters built into 602 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: the pan. The pans about four hundred dollars. I think 603 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: it's some stupid amount of money because you have to 604 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: change the pan and the filter together if you want 605 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 3: to put a filter kit in it. I kind of 606 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: like changing doing it at some point because it gives 607 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: me the opportunity to see what's in the pan, Do 608 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: I have grit? 609 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: Do I have contaminant? Does it look like the trans 610 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: is coming apart? 611 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: And I've talked to some Chrysler text that tell me 612 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: ron it never pays to change the transfluid on a 613 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Chrysler because it's a piece of junk and it's going 614 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: to blow up anyway. And that's their that's theirs, that's 615 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: their technical expertise coming to light. And then I've had 616 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: some guys tell me that yes, they do see because 617 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: of the fluid gets old, it gets overheated, it breaks down, 618 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: it loses its shifting qualities and characteristics, So changing it 619 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: does help. Okay, So the real question comes back to 620 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: if if replacing that trends is eight grand, do you 621 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: want to do it now or do you want to 622 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: do it in three years? 623 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's when it's more when it's when it's 624 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: more money. 625 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 626 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: But if I if changing the fluid gets you three years, 627 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: there's the gamble, right, Okay, you know it's it also 628 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: comes back to you know, I always ask this question, Mike, 629 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: how long are you going to keep the truck? 630 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 2: And you're gonna tell me forever? 631 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying for ten more years. 632 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: Right, we all, we all we all think like that, right, 633 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: we all think we want to keep it forever. 634 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: And I understand that, all right, But and you've got 635 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: to consider this too, And I hope I'm not going 636 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: to fusing you. You know you want to keep it 637 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: another ten years? That means that this truck will be 638 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: sixteen years old. Will they be able to get the 639 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: electronics for that truck to repair it properly? And I 640 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: don't mean in ten years, I mean in two years. 641 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: You're right, you know, there's there's things now I can't 642 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: get for six and seven and eight year old chryslers, 643 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: or there's there's there's components I'm waiting for, and as 644 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: vehicles become more complex, it's only going to get worse. 645 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: But and here's the butt. 646 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: If you're willing to put up with, well, maybe I 647 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: use a scrapyard part, Maybe I use an aftermarket part. 648 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Maybe I get a little creative in terms of what 649 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to fix and how I go about it 650 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: and not do it through traditional channels to source pieces. 651 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: You'll get ten years out of that truck, you know 652 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: you will. So, But you know, changing the changing the fluid, 653 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: in my opinion, can only help. 654 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, okay, so now one of the things, 655 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: I'll tell. 656 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: You what sit tight a minute, Mike, Let me pull over, 657 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: take this. Let me pull over and take a pluge. 658 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll come right back to you. 659 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: I'm running any in the car. 660 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: Doctor. We'll return right after this, and we're. 661 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: Back Mike, finishing up. What's on your mind? What's the 662 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: last couple of questions in our closing minutes? 663 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: Okay? The second part that I had with the transmission 664 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 5: fluid changes is, okay, I don't have I live in 665 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: a small town, so I don't have a really a 666 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: local guy that I trust to do more than change 667 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 5: the tires and change the oil. So do I go 668 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 5: to a transmission shop? Do I go to the mechanic 669 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 5: shop in the little town I'm near? Or is this 670 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 5: something that we have some guys that are pretty good. 671 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 5: You call them up, they live in the towns, They 672 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: come out, they do your mechanic work in your yard, 673 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: and they charge you feet per less than the shop does. 674 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 5: When I get this done, I want all the fluid 675 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: to come out. I don't want just to drink. I 676 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: wanted it all out. 677 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: The only way, the only and I agree with you. 678 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Getting all the fluid out is important. 679 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: I think the only guy that's going to have a 680 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: machine that'll do it is either the trans shop or 681 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: the dealer. All right, let me let me let me 682 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: hit you with this closing thought too. Right, My little 683 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: shop truck, my beater. Right, every repair shop has a beater. 684 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: Mine's a ninety seven, ninety seven Ford Ranger, two hundred 685 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: and thirty thousand miles. 686 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: Right. 687 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: Bought it from a customer in two thousand and four. 688 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: He didn't want to put a rear end in it 689 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: when it had one hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. 690 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: Paid four hundred bucks for it. Right, put a rear 691 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: end in it, put a Junkyard rear in it. Couldn't 692 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: get a new rear out of Ford at the time, 693 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: eight years old. 694 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Right. 695 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: So since two thousand and four I figured it out, 696 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: I've kept track. I've got between twelve and thirteen thousand 697 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: dollars worth of parts in labor in maintaining that truck. 698 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: A couple of exhaust systems. We go through breaks, we 699 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: go through this, we go through that. I thought of 700 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 3: this the other day. Somebody wanted to buy the Ranger 701 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: a new Chevy Colorado. What I would consider the equivalent, right, 702 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: A new Chevy Colorado rear wheel drive, A little nuffin 703 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 3: truck is forty two thousand dollars. Forty two thousand dollars 704 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: twelve thousand dollars, aren't I ahead? 705 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: If that? 706 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: If that nineteen Ram needed a transmission and it was 707 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: eight grand, eight grand, a new Ram seventy grand, start 708 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: doing the math. It makes more sense to take care 709 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: of stuff and drive it longer. I appreciate the call, Mike. 710 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm running dy in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 711 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 3: they're priceless. 712 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: See you, hey, the car doctor. Car advice. 713 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: Don't ride