WEBVTT - WWE Top Salaries/Rampage/Smackdown 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:09.840 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:17.400 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.640 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.960 Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.720 sixth Eastern Friday here on this program. You know that 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.080 means we got a lot to talk about here today, 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:36.199 including is coming Sunday n x T two point oh 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:42.240 War Games, and I have just learned breaking news here 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.640 that land Storm will in fact be replacing Vinnie on 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.200 Sunday to cover this show, so he has to watch 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.400 n x T two point oh War Games and then 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:56.440 it'll be myself and Lance and Craig all recapping the 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.960 show afterwards. Only for our top tier subscriber us here 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.280 on Twitch and YouTube. You have to be a subscriber 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.319 to the video services to watch it live after the 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.160 show goes out here. But we have the line up 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.800 for the show here today. We can tell you about 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.440 that obviously, Rampage and SmackDown tonight. We've got notes on 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.240 the top Salaries in w w E, which was written 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.200 about in this week's Wrestling Observer newsletter, who's making five 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:27.800 million dollars a year to a headline at w w 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:32.400 E shows. We'll talk about the dynamite numbers, not great numbers. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.120 Last week, the dynamite numbers were better than I expected. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.240 This week, the dynamite numbers worse than I expected, So 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.560 we'll tell you about those here. We've also got an 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.880 update on Clark Conners, who tested positive for COVID. He 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.880 was expected to be at Comic Con uh this coming weekend, 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.720 and uh he will not be there, but we'll tell 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.520 you about it. That and w w E postponing a 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.320 tour of Canada, and pretty much whatever else is on 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.600 your mind. We were schedule today to be joined by 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.800 Jervis Cotton Belly, but unfortunately after booking the show, he 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.760 was unable to make it here today, so we're gonna 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.000 schedule him for next week. We've got a lot of 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.000 big guests coming up, Jervis dan Housen, who will be 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.400 on the show Tuesday alongside Oreo of the Orca My God. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:22.560 So much coming up, and we'll talk about all of 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.720 that more after the break. Four to five seven eight 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.680 zero seven, five six six If you'd like to send 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.040 a text message then to seven eight zero seven five 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.760 six EXCEMP for VV will join us after the break 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.440 and we will be back in at just a moment. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:44.320 Stick around, everybody, Wrestling Observer Live, come day, coming come Monday, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.679 back in the show. Bring eber Is here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.040 My Semper Viv also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. All 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.520 we do is just get constant of breaking news and 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.600 information here on this program. So as we went on 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.880 the air, I learned that Lance will be stepping in 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:09.160 for Vinny this coming Sunday for the War Games show. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.920 We can talk about that line up here in a second. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.480 Although just completely vanished off my notes, but I'll figure 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.240 it out. So there's that. And then also we just 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.680 learned that Jervis Cotton Belly will not be able to 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.120 do the show here today, but we learned during the 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.320 break that he will be replaced today on this show. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.160 I hear that you're you're leaving early, Mike, Is that right? 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.760 I am. I'm skipping out of here early today. Boss. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.040 I've had enough of this week. Well you know what 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:45.240 you're missing our interview with Gabriel Kid. Oh yep, too bad. Buddy. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.560 He's gonna be on the show coming up in the 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.080 final segment of the show, talking New Japan and plenty 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.400 of other things as well. So we've got questions, you 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.720 can text or email them to me, and we're gonna 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.880 talk to him about lots of different things that's coming 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.800 up later on in the show. In this week's Wrestling 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:08.040 Observer newsletter, day Els reported w w E Universal champion 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.800 Roman Reigns and former champion Brock Lesner are currently the 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.920 heads of the company table. When it comes to annual 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.320 contract value. Molta reported both men make more than five 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.960 million dollars a year, which we knew about brock Lesner. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.080 We knew that brock was making in excess of five 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.960 million a year, but Roman Reigns also up there five 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.960 million per year guaranteed deals. Another unnamed talent is around 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.320 four million, and he had to quote a lot of 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.479 the top talent is now a two million and some 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:44.120 at three million. If you recall. It's uh, this is 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.400 just the way life works. So when when a w 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.960 was kicking off, w w E went on this big 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.000 deal where they started offering to pay everybody double and 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.080 there were a lot of people that were making around 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:02.720 one million downside, and so the top talent ended up 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.039 making as noted here, one person at four, a lot 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.400 of top talent at two, some of them are at three. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.040 It's probably not hard to figure out who these individuals 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.400 likely are. I mean, just look at the show. Find 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.920 out who never does jobs as always protected. I don't know. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.760 Let me make this clear, I don't know. And then 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.680 the person who was making four million dollars is Randy Orton. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.159 But if I found out that the guy that was 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.159 making four million dollars is Randy Orton, I would not 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.479 be the least bit surprised. You're you're two and three million. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.640 I mean, watch the show, it's your Charlotte Flares, and 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.440 you know the folks that are getting main event pushes regularly, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.279 always there in the in the year, Becky Lynch for example. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.760 I mean, they're making plenty of money. But the problem 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:57.440 here is that they started offering these these deals two 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.240 more than just the tippy top talent. So essentially, if 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:08.440 if you were a great example would be um, uh, 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.160 you know what I'm talking about. Anyway, the point is 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.120 if you were lower on the tone and pole, you 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.560 were also suddenly making twice as much money as you 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.000 were making before. And the problem is when a w 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.520 ends up doing fine and you're not putting them out 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.240 of business, and there's no chance of putting them out 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.360 of business, and you're paying all of these these lower 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.640 tier guys double what they were making, and not just guys, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.960 but women as well well. Then all of a sudden, 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.080 you know, the story of the year is they've cut 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.080 eighty five talents or whatever the number is. So it was, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.839 it was as usual, and it's not the talent's fault 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.479 because you know, they're not gonna offer you. Hey, you 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.080 were making uh, you know, to fifty. Now we're gonna 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.800 pay you five. Take it or leave it. Well, I'm 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.039 taking it. Well Now, all a sudden, you're making five 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.440 dollars and they're looking at their little budget right here 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.640 and oh, I'm sorry, you gotta go. We ain't paying 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.760 you five hundred thousand dollars. And we haven't seen any yet. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.960 But I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if their individuals 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.040 that got cut and uh, they end up coming back 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.560 for less than they were making. I mean, it's inevitable 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.239 that's gonna happen with some of them at some point. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.160 But Anyway, that's the story. So as usual, life's not 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.400 fair if you're if you're a Randy Ortons, they're gonna 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.320 double your contract. You're making a preposterous amount of money 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.760 compared to you know, what you used to be making. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.360 But they ain't cutting you because they don't want you 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.840 to go to a W If you're a whoever, you know, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.080 they're not worried. I mean, I don't know what the 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.160 whole situation was with Nia Jacks, but she was clearly 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.480 making more than they wanted to pay her, and so 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.040 they weren't concerned about her going to too n x 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.400 T and so she ended up getting cut along with 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.160 eighty five other people over the last year. So that's 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.920 life in w W E. And it doesn't really trickle down, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.240 you know what I'm saying that trickle down economics is 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:00.800 a has always been, uh that propos issue for most 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.800 of us who are waiting on that money to come 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.480 trickling down. But happy for the people at the top 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.520 of the food chain, that's for sure. Happy for the 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.360 people that did make out because of a W and 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.760 I mean Randy Orton, Becky, Charlotte Raines, Lesner, you know 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.040 whoever else is up there. Awesome, that's awesome. We've seen 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:25.280 the cuts happen where they have buyers remorse good brothers. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680 The greatest example of that, I think one of the 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.560 more high profile examples of that you talked about. It 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.040 was another one. They had seven hundred fifty thou dollars 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.640 was their new deals, and then all of a sudden, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.199 they realize we're paying these guys seven or fifty thousand dollars. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.640 They cut them well and think about that too, and 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.080 this is not and I love you know, Carl Anderson 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.520 goes back a long way. I'm cool with that, but 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.880 like seven thousand dollars a year, you know, they they 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.760 were losing their minds. Drake Maverick left, came back. He's 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.000 kind of got a weird situation because I don't know, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.360 you know, with his index tea contract and all that 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.800 sort of stuff. You know, did he come back for less? 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.880 I bet you probably would if they offered him less. Uh, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:11.520 you know, I I don't know. I I don't know 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.400 what you can really say other than they're gonna only 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.520 take care of a certain group because they only look 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.400 at a certain group as being valuable, and where they 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.800 have made mistakes are Sure you've let bray Y go 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.800 and he hasn't made an impact yet. Sure you let 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.360 braun Stroman go and he hasn't gone anywhere yet. But 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.840 it's not going to be those guys who hurt you. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.800 You know, Daniel Bryan left in a different way. You 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.840 want different challenges, But it won't be those guys. It's 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.679 going to be the other people. And I don't want 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.680 to say the two point ohs, but like you see 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.760 where they're at with just a little bit of effort. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.880 I don't know how long it's gonna last. I don't 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.640 think they'll ever get to a level of an FDR. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.920 But oh yeah, FTR. You know that they're gonna die 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.640 by people like that leaving because they don't want wrestlers 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.160 with experience. They don't want certain things that a w 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.320 absolutely put the value on. So that's where they're really 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.240 going to hurt from some of this stuff. And there 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.120 are going to be people they go back to w 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.360 W because they can't go anywhere else. And I don't 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.640 want to say that like Nia Jacks for example, And 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.120 I said this about bron Stroman. I can see him. Yeah, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.560 he can be an impact, he can be in some 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.600 other places, but like because of his skill set, because 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.600 of you know, his dexterity or lack thereof. As he 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.120 continues to get older, it's like, in some ways w 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.000 w E is the best spot for him. So even 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.040 if he does take a little bit of a pay cut, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.440 it's still maybe the best bet for him for a 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.400 guy like him. And I think that's the same way 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.400 with Nia Jacks. But again, they're gonna pay people what 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.920 they want to pay them. Are people still criminally under 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.840 paid in that company absolutely for the amount of money 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.280 they bring in. But this is this is how it 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:55.120 goes again there, in my mind, their mistake of not 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:01.280 seeing value right now in a certain type performer, which 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.320 tends to be the experience independent wrestling fan, you know, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.680 in the wrestling fan. They don't want those guys. They're 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.960 not putting a value on that. That's where they're really 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.720 gonna hurt. And at some point those people are gonna 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.640 make money. You gonna w W because they're gonna have 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.480 to because you know next in line. Well, well we'll 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.960 see how that works out. Wednesday's Dynamite Interstitty one thousand viewers, 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.160 down four point one percent from Thanksgiving Eve lows audience 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.040 for Dynamite at a Wednesday since May nine, third on 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:36.120 Cable point three one, which was the lowest demo since 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.120 May nineteen. Demo categories all of that information here. Fact 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.120 of the matter is this not a great number in 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.000 terms of viewership last week. Last week, I was expecting 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.119 them to do around one and instead they did significantly 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.359 better than that for the first time ever on Thanksgiving 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.520 Eve this week. I I know there's no chance in 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.960 the show isn't up from last week, but in fact 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.600 it was down. Now, I know the sky's falling is always, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.800 but it's not. They were third on cable, so that's good, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.080 but that is a lower number than expected. Backing them 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:30.199 up with morebs were live back in the show. Brian 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:36.040 albare is here Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike Subberviv also a 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.840 Wrestling Observer dot Com. A couple of things. If you 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.000 ahead of my Twitter at Brian Alvarez at the top 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.040 there sticky, it is the link to our final Whale 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:50.880 Scout co host auction. And once this one is done, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.439 they are done for the year and it ends tomorrow. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.440 So if you have any interest whatsoever in h participating, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.320 then now is a chance to uh check that out 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.320 top of my Twitter at Brian Alvarez put in your 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:11.400 bid winning bid gets to co host with myself, Vinny Craig, Granny, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.840 whatever Brianny Vinny show you want and if within reason, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.960 I will let you review the show that you want 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.640 as well. How much for Granny to put on the 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.000 work out but not allowed, Dude, we'd never get her 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:29.319 out of it. Discuss that could be the entire Christmas 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.200 special Actually would be trying to get her in and 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.360 out of the Oreo outfit, which would be I mean, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.040 you can't say that it wouldn't be hilarious, horrible you 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.360 you why don't you do the craigline the other day 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.320 when he talked about the next time Granny falls down, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.600 poor attempt at comedy. Craig was disgusting. I'd also like 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.640 to note, speaking of hospitals, that Lance here tweeted no 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.280 show today with myself. Wife had emergency surgery. They just 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.920 got home from the hospital a few hours ago. He's 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.679 watched no wrestling. Well, I have the free time today. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.760 She is home in recovering. Obviously, best wishes to Lance 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.720 and his wife and he will be taking the day 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.240 off today. But we'll be back Sunday for war games. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.360 Can you imagine? Oh boy, I still I'm I'm going 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.840 to watch war games. I promise you I will watch 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.480 war games. And I hate to say that I have 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.800 a good with the some of the experience level in 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.960 this match. I am very much looking forward to how 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.800 it's laid out, what some of these folks do in 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.160 this match, what some of the big spots are, and 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.360 it's going to be It's gonna be interesting, I think, 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.320 and I wonder, you know, again, they they have made 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.520 the bar pretty high for war games, and I know 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.520 everything is out the window now with the new regime. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.880 Nothing that happened before matters. Although and we've heard those 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.600 stories about Vince. You know, Vince watched the show and 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.920 he really liked all that nonsense. Whatever. It could be 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.840 completely different layout in scenario and all that sort of 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.960 stuff tonight. But the bar has been raised pretty high 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.360 for war games there as far as spots and as 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.080 far as you know what they do in those matches. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.000 So it is interesting to me. It's a very intriguing 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.920 line up here for the very first take over the 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.480 two point oh era. For instance, you're gonna make poor 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.280 Lance watch the n x T two point o pay 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.360 per view after the week he's had hold on a minute. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.560 I made an offer to Lance. Lance is the one 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.680 that said that he would do it, and Lance is 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.800 getting paid, So no one's being forced to watch this 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.600 show against their will. That maybe Mike. So we got 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:42.560 Raquel Eo, Cora, Jade, Kaylee Ray against a Kodakai toxic 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.400 attraction that's Mandy G G and j C. Jane. So 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.880 these War Games are four on four matches this year, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.560 and baby Faces have the advantage in the women's match. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.880 That should be really exciting. And the last time that 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.760 we had a match that was stunt match with Green Workers. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.680 It was a few weeks ago. There was a ladder 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.920 match or something like that, and I was petrified that 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.360 someone's gonna get killed, and uh, someone actually did get 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.680 badly injured, but it was Zoe Stark, who I was 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.560 not expecting to be one of the people that got injured. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.680 So we're back to do in some War Games match 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.840 and somebody as I'm sure we're gonna have to come 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.400 off the top of that cage and there's gonna be 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:26.040 gimmicks and weapons. So I just say a prayer before 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.880 that particular match. Cameron Grimes Duke Hudson is hair versus hair. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.520 I'm sorry, we got imperiod versus Kyle O'Reilly and Von 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:45.120 Wagner for the tag team titles, Joe Gacy facing Roderick Strong. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.360 And then we've got the Old versus New although they're 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.800 calling it Team Black and Gold versus Team two point oh, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.560 but it's the Millionaire's Club versus the New Blood. Chompa Gargano, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.440 Pete done in l a Night Again, Spraun Breaker, Carmelo, Hayes, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.480 Grace and Waller, and Tony Angelo, and also happened some 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.479 of the creativity with some of these names. You remember 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.720 when the Survivor series was actually good and you had 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.240 like Sergeant Snipers and you actually had some a little 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.120 bit of punasha these names, For heaven's sakes, it's it's 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.879 just it's black and gold. Are they gonna put on 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.640 shirts to like they do on the main roster. Are 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.120 we going to have to have like black because we've 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.720 mixed up baby face and heels here. You can't convince 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.600 me l A. Knight is a baby face. He is not. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.480 I know that he's working on that side. I know 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.560 he's footing with somebody on the other side. But how 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.240 is L. A. Knight a baby face? Now we've seen 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.960 this in wrestling for you, Breaker is obviously a baby face. Well, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.280 but he's on the heel team that's clearly a baby face. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.200 They bark at him, they chant his name, they cheer 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.120 for everything he does. Just wait till the Royal Rumbo 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.040 when he comes out baby face. Just wait, and it'll 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.680 be interesting to see who he throws out and who 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.680 he gets thrown out by. And I know you saying, Mike, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.960 how are you so sure that he's going to be 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.359 in the Royal Wumble? Come on, He's going to be 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.199 in the Royal Rumble. And if anything, Walter will be 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:12.720 the one that chops him out of there. It won't 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.840 be somebody that you even see every week. I'm almost this, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.560 I'm already seeing into the future on this. How is 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.920 Broun Breaker not going to be in the Royal Wumble? 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.240 Be insane for him not to be. For instance, I 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.560 hope Knight leaves. He's too talented. Bro, That guy just signed. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.879 He's been there like less than a year, hasn't he? 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.840 And no offense to anybody with L. A. Knight? L 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.600 A Knight went through that system. Once he reimagined himself 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.720 in it was an impact. And then I don't know 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.480 if he did he did n w A for a while. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:47.000 To like him just being back there, you know, I 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.720 I to me, he's not being wasted at all. To me, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.680 like that's a great example of that's almost the best 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.119 place for him. He can talk his ass off. Is 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.320 he good in the ring? He is, okay, it's just 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.680 there's he's missing a component that puts him somewhere where 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.120 his his talking is. And I know people get tired 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.000 of the catchphrases and all that, but look, if you 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.560 threw some of that out, the guy is very good. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.359 And I'm sure he can mix up his game if 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.440 he wanted to. But this is what they have him doing. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.560 This is what has worked for him. So I don't 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.840 blame him for doing a stick but he can talk 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.720 his ass off and to me, w w E he 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.639 should be very happy where he's at. And I'm not 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.400 saying what you should be happy because he's signed there, 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.600 but like that to me is like the perfect place 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.480 where l A Night. Am I wrong? Do? I think 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.439 he's actually overshot his target by making it there A 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.040 second time and being a feature piece. I want to 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.000 wear wrong. I will hold on. I gotta, I gotta 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.280 make sure we get this in. But Clark Connor was 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.800 supposed to be on the show today, Clark Connors and 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.919 he has COVID and uh, he's supposed to be on 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:51.800 our show. He's supposed to be on this show today. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.600 Well he can't do it because he has COVID. So 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.479 it's a long story. But anyway, we were microphones are 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.360 a really good that you got trying to uh, we 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:04.360 were trying to book him. Anyway, let's get to the point, Mike, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.520 he's got COVID, so I want to wish the best 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.679 to him. He is vaccinated. He hopes it will pass quickly. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.320 But we'll get him back here on the show soon. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.240 So actually, this has been a rough day for for guests. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.800 We first we lost Clark, and then we replaced him 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.840 with Jervis, and then we lost Jervis. So I'm only 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.320 I'm only hoping here that everything is okay with Gabriel 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.639 Kid for the next four minutes, really, and we'll have 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.520 him on. Clark was supposed to be at comic Con 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.040 this weekend, the l A Comic Con and obviously had 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.160 to pull out of that, but they are having a 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.720 meet and greet. There's a new Japan booth at Comic 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.840 Con and there's a meet and greet Friday, December three, 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.080 and there will be a panel discussion with j White 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:54.480 and Fred Rosser on Saturday December four, and Gabriel Kid 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.440 not only taking the place of Clark on this show 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:01.439 but also at Comic Con. So that is the update. 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.320 They're White and Fred war osso sounds awesome as a 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.240 panel and as a match, well, we'll get the match. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:08.920 I'm sure at some point maybe the panel will turn 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.760 into a match, or they'll shoot an for a match. Also, 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.679 very quickly, WWBS postponed the tour of Canada scheduled to 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:20.199 take place in January. Two four show tours, set to 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.679 include an episode of SmackDown, an episode of Raw, and 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.560 two house shows. They have been rescheduled. These were all 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:33.359 scheduled to take place January twenty three and twenty four, 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:38.840 the live Raw scheduled. They've actually rescheduled all of these 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:44.160 already for October and September next year. So I thought 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.880 it was because of the Winter Olympics and hockey. Honestly, 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.159 I thought Okay, there might be facing hockey competition on 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.639 those nights, and I honestly thought that was it. And 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.240 I know hockey doesn't begin until February, so I have 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.560 no idea if this has got what this actually has 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.040 to do with, but I would think it move. I 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:06.320 would think it's so it's not ticket sales, as Dave noted, 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.959 because the advances are good, and so I mean, I 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.879 think that it is something travel related and you can 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.600 all probably all figure out what that would likely be. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:23.800 I'm not saying that's why, but if if the if 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.240 the shows are booked, the advances are good, but you're 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.720 not gonna go to and from Canada, it seems self 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.640 explanatory to me. And I know people are probably saying 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:36.360 right now, well, what has changed? Nothing, but something very 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.879