1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, Luck and load. The Michael 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. I detected. 3 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Of Afghan nationals who end up in this country who 4 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: engage in criminal activity. And an Afghan national has been 5 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: arrested in the state of Texas for making a terrorist 6 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: threat a post by Lieutenant Chris Olivares, who was a 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: big shot with the Texas Department of Public Safety. The 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Texas DPS worked alongside DHS, Department of Homeland Security, and 9 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: other federal agencies and local agencies to help arrest the 10 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Afghan national who made that terroristic threat. Lieutenant Olivars, thank 11 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: you for joining the show again. We appreciate that what 12 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: exactly happened here. 13 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: By Good morning Michael and ls of the morning to 14 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: your listeners. You know this really shows just what you know, 15 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: great police work, does you know, coming together working with 16 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: our local and federal law enforcement agencies, gathering intelligence and 17 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: being able to prevent a terroristic attack that was coordinated 18 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: by this Afghan national where he posted a video on 19 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: social media where he was targeting the Fort Wood, Texas 20 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: area and making a bomb. And really really tell I 21 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: think it really really shows, you know, underscores, you know 22 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: that we face more threats now than we've ever faced before, 23 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: and a lot of us to do with the fact 24 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: that you know, we dealt with an unprecedented serge at 25 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: the board of the past four years and not knowing 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: exactly who is coming across the border, especially you know, 27 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: those from adversarial countries that do want to cause harm 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: to our country and being released into the country. Now 29 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: having to track some of these immigrants down, and this 30 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: is a perfect example of what could have happened, what 31 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: really could have happened if it wasn't more our DPS 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: personnel working together with the FBI and DHS and being 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: able to locate this Afghan national and arrest tempt a 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: terroristic threat. And one thing I do want to add 35 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: is that we're taking a proactive approach when it comes 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: to these type of matters that affect public safety. Just 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: most recently in September, we created and developed a Homeland 38 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: Security Division within the Texas Department of Public Safety. And 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: what that does is brings all of our intelligence services 40 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: together under one unified command and provides a more robust 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: intelligence apparatus where we have more services working together, providing 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: real time information to the field, to the agents to 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: the troopers to be able to stop events like this 44 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: and arrest criminals that do want to cause harm to 45 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: our state. 46 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: What do we know about this guy, this Afghan national house, 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: How did he get here? How long had he been here? 48 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Was he part of a terror cell? Did he arrive 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: a bad guy based on activities already or or was 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: he under the throes of one of these m moms 51 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: that operate on American soil. 52 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: You know, that's one thing that we don't know. And 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: it kind of goes back to what I've always talked 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: about years ago, right when you when you allow people 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: to come into the country illegally, you don't vet them, 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: meaning you don't do any background checks, any type of 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: finger prints, any type of you know, being able to 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: gather information from some of these other countries because they 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: don't share information with us as far as any type 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: of terroristic threats or terroristic database. We have our own 61 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: terroristic database, but again, some of these countries don't share 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: information on some of these individuals that are coming across. 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: This particular immigrant, this Afghan national was came across the 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: border and was given status in twenty twenty two by 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: the previous administration as part of their Welcome Allies operation 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: and because of that, Again, we don't know exactly what 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: radicalized this, you know, this particular digual, what caused him 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: to want to cause harm to our country and make 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: this terroristic threat. But again we take it very serious 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: and we have a zero calls for that. Our governor, 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: Governor Rabbit has made a very care as well that 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: we're going to prioritize public safety and we're going to 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: locate and track people down that are making these type 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: of threats and that do want to cause harm to 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: our great state. 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about another post you put up. 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: It's actually your pinned post, but every time I go 78 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: look you up, it's from a year ago. I'd like 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: to know if this is still happening, and have you 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: talk a bit about it. 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: You talked about you said watch. 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: An unaccompanied two year old child from El salvad Or 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: explained she arrived in the US by herself and that 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: her parents were in the US. The child had a 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: piece of paper with a phone number and a name. 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: This morning, Texas CPS encountered group of two hundred and 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: eleven illegal aliens in Maverick County. Among the group, were 88 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: sixty unaccompanied minors ages two to seventeen, and six special 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: interest immigrants from Molly and Angola. Lieutenant Olivars, Texas Department 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: of Public Safety. I've seen video, I've talked to other 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: law enforcement. I've talked to Bill Malusion of Fox who 92 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: has covered this beat for quite some time, and the 93 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: disturbing aspect of a legal immigration, Perhaps the most disturbing 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: is children who appear to be trafficked to this country 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: at the earliest youngest of ages. Your thoughts is that 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: still going on and how bad is that? 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: You know? I keep that post penned as a reminder 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: of what we faced, you know, during those last four years, 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: and just as you mentioned, just the travesty and devastation 100 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: when we talk about children, they are the most vulnerable population. 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: However you feel about immigration, the fact of the matter 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: is that, you know, we were experiencing as a state 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: police agency. I'm a company child coming across that border 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: by themselves and not knowing exactly whether we're going to 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: end up in two days, we do not know exactly 106 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: where they ended up. And we're heard stories and we've 107 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: seen reports on some of these children being found, you know, 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: in sex trafficking camp and used for you know, hard labor. 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: That is that is the reality of the situation. When 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: you allow millions and millions people to come across the border, 111 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: to include on in company children. We have not seen 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: that now with the new administration, and I will say 113 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: that is one thing that I am very I guess 114 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: would say police to know that we have an administration 115 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: has really been cracking down and really now we have 116 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: immigration at an all time low, and with that, you're 117 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: going to stop the flow of unincompanied children. And now 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: the problem is where do we find these children? What 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: can we do to find these to them that were 120 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: released that came across the border the last four years, 121 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: that had been wasted the country. Now we got to 122 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: find them. We've got to find them, reunite them with 123 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: their families, and again have some type of permanent solutions 124 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: in place for the next four years eight years. You know, 125 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: That's the one thing that we got to think about too, 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: is that, you know, immigration has always been an ongoing cycle, 127 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: and we want to make sure that we put some 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: type of policies in place at the federal level. That's 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: where our lawmakers to come into play, so we can 130 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 3: stop this from happening again, but again as a stark 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: reminder of the devastation and trategies that we were dealing 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: with the last four years when we just had this 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: unpresident to serve at the border. 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: You know, there is the purely American interest which we 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: should always serve first of protecting our people and including 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: our own children. But then there is at the next level, 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: the universality of decency, particularly as it relates to children, 138 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: and the idea that this is part of a trafficking 139 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: ring not just of drugs, but of human beings to 140 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: be used as sex objects. And we've seen this in 141 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: case after case. It's as old as mankind. People can 142 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: be evil with regard to their depravity, and it bothers 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: me on a level. It's almost unspeakable, having children, myself 144 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: and a house full of nieces and nephews over the 145 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: weekend who were about this age. It's unfathomable. It is 146 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: so disturbing. Chris Olivar is with the Texas Department of 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Public Safety. As always, sir, thank you for your service 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: and thanks for making time to talk to us about this. 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: Keep up the great work, Yes, sir, thank you so much, 150 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: appreciate you. 151 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Moan. Did you know that Catholic mass is just Catholic 152 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: force divided by Catholic acceleration? 153 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Sir, please do not call him the fat pick. See 154 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be nice. Don't call him a fat pick. 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: Getting reports that there was an officer involved shooting just 156 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: a few moments ago. The best I can tell from 157 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: some other units in the area, the bad guy was 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: robbing a check cashing facility. Well, I tell you what, 159 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: of all the places you might not mind owning, but 160 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: you don't want to work check cashing facility pretty high 161 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: up there. You look at the number of shootings that 162 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: occur at a check cashing facility, It is not good. 163 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: The bad guy was robbing the facility because they know 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: there's cash inside. 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: So what are we at? Early nine o'clock so this was. 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: In the eight am hour. Bad guy takes a hostage 167 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: when he exits. Unclear why he did that, because you 168 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: don't need a hostage if you're going to jump in 169 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: your car and drive away. You need a hostage if 170 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: you're I guess, planning to grab their car and have 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: them drive you, or if the cops have spotted you 172 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: already and you feel like that's your exit. I think 173 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: you've watched Dog Day Afternoon too many times. It's not 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: going to end well for you. You're not getting away 175 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: when you have a hostage. The numbers bear that out. 176 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: So apparently the bad guy exits the cash check cashing 177 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: facility with the hostage and then pushes her to the 178 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: side and engages in a shootout with the officer, which 179 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: beleads me to believe that he realizes the cops are 180 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: on him. Thank goodness he pushed her aside because she's 181 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: presumably an innocent bystander. In all of this, the bad 182 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: guy has been wounded. We don't know if he's dead yet. 183 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: We hope he is, but we don't know. He's been 184 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: transported to the hospital. Another officer, who was not very 185 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: close to the scene but heard from another officer, said 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: that he believes the suspect is not badly wounded and 187 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: will survive, which is unfortunate. But that was the story 188 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: that just occurred. So let's talk about the shooting of 189 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: the National guardsmen by the Afghan national who was brought 190 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: to this country. What does America First mean as a 191 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: branch of the Make America Great Again movement? It means 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: that Americans were watching for years and years and years, 193 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: and they knew something wasn't right. Their neighborhood was changing. 194 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 2: They lived in Minneapolis. They noticed that all the Somalis 195 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: were moving in. A few here, a few there, and 196 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: in short order, the school teachers were Somali. They noticed 197 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: that the mayor was making a big deal we have 198 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: Somali police officers. And they noticed that there were welfare 199 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: centers cropping up everywhere that were serving Somali citizens in Somali. 200 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: They noticed radio stations pobbing up a newspapers, and slowly 201 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: but surely, it felt like people who'd been there for 202 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: some period of time were moving out and being replaced 203 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: by Somalis. And Americans started noticing that this was happening 204 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: with pockets of people here and there, and just like 205 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: any people throughout the history of mankind, there was a 206 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: sense of wait a second, this a little place that 207 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 2: I call home. I'm an outcast. 208 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Now. 209 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: These people don't speak my language. These people tend to 210 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: their own, they show preference to their own. They don't 211 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: like me, They're hostile toward me. What happened to the 212 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: melting pot? Well, when one of these inti occurs, the 213 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: National gu guardsmen being shot is a great example. It 214 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: takes something like this to get people to focus on 215 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: a problem like this. 216 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: But let's unravel how this happens exactly. 217 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: There is the story again and again and again of 218 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: the local and Iraqi, Afghanistan and Vietnam for that matter, 219 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: where a person assisted in one of ours to get 220 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: through the streets to cover a wound. 221 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: And we respect that, and I can even respect the fact. 222 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: That that person can't continue to live there when we're 223 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: gone because they don't have our protection. 224 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: But why must they always be brought here? 225 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: If that is on behalf of humanity that we go 226 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: into these countries, which we claim it is, why can't 227 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: the rest of humanity bear the burden? And it is 228 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: a burden of bringing these people into your society. And 229 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: a lot of Americans are scared to speak out because 230 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: that'll make you a bad person. 231 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: And you will be scared to speak. 232 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: Out until the moment that it won't be your fear 233 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: it keeps you from speaking out. 234 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: You be outnumbered. You will be the outcast now. 235 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Lest we speak out against it and be considered a 236 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: bad name. See, once you get called a bad name 237 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: long enough, you stop caring and that's the greatest power. 238 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: It's a superpower in my business. And it's also it's 239 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: also a calming influence. 240 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: So on the issue of the Afghan nationals, why would 241 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: Democrat Sylvia Garcia and Republican Dan Crenshaw pushed so hard 242 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: to get these people relocated to Harris County? 243 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Why? 244 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Well, money for it. There's money for the local government. 245 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: So you win favor with local politicians that you get 246 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: a few million dollars. Now, I know what you're thinking, Yeah, 247 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: but at what costs Michael to bring him in. These 248 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: people don't care. It's not going to be their neighbor. 249 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: They can assure they can assure themselves of that, because 250 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: if it were that have am moved. So Dan Crenshaw's 251 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: come under fire for this. He's been heavily criticized for this. 252 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: So his response, because remember politicians are never going to 253 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: take what you say and go you're right, his response is, 254 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: I served in Afghanistan and by the way, he did 255 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: by all accounts, honorably, and if you will do me 256 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: one favor over the next six months, I will ask 257 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: that it be this not criticize the fact that the 258 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: man lost his eye in war. He could be the 259 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: worst congressman in the history of mankind, it is still 260 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: not appropriate to call him I Patch McCain. Can we 261 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: not get over the fact that he wears an eyepatch 262 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: and understand how he got it? If he was missing 263 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: an arm, would we make a joke about that? But 264 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: I understand those people helped you in Afghanistan. 265 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Don't bring them to my neighborhood. I get to say that. 266 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: For those of you who over the years have said, 267 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: aren't you a Delbert McClinton fan because he went on 268 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: a Delbert McClinton country music cruise, I never was. For 269 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: some reason. If you say you're not a fan of 270 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: something you're unfamiliar with their work. 271 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: That is perceived as a slight of the person. It's not. 272 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: The good news is there are a number of great 273 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: artists in every medium, and you can't possibly get to 274 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: all of them. My problem is I get bogged down. 275 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: I find something I like. Can I stick with that 276 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: for a while. You can't really master someone's work, but 277 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: you really want to understand it more than a superficial level. 278 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: So Delbert Mclinton one of those that I just never 279 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: got into, never came across I knew the name. I 280 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: knew a song or two, but I think that's a 281 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: particularly good one. So I have a friend who sent 282 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: me an email a couple of days ago, and he said, 283 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: I recently reread nineteen eighty four, which, of course we 284 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: were all assigned in high school. 285 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: No judgment if you didn't read it carefully. 286 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: I recently reread it nineteen eighty four in Fahrenheit four 287 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: or five to one, and I wanted another old dystopian 288 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: story that feels like today's headlines. Well, I found it, 289 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: The Camp of the Saints. The Camp of the Saints, 290 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: published nineteen seventy three. It tells the story of a 291 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: million poor migrants who sail from India to France on dilapidated, 292 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: overcrowded ships. The West refuses to stop them because it 293 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: is afraid of being called racist. Politicians freeze, the media 294 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: calls the migrants victims. 295 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: And attacks anyone who complains. 296 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: Celebrities and churches celebrate the arrival, and regular citizens who 297 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: protest because they clearly see what's happening are silenced or 298 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: even arrested. Spoiler alert, France collapses without a fight, and 299 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: the rest of the West soon follows. Some on the 300 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: left call it racists, far right nonsense, but the book's 301 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: core warning feels painfully current in twenty twenty five. Guilt 302 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: combined with fear of being labeled a racist, can paralyze 303 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: and eventually destroy a civilization. I listened to the audiobook 304 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: on a road trip, but I've ordered to print version 305 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: so I can have it when it eventually gets banned 306 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: for its brutal honesty. Be careful you buy the English translation. 307 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: The original is in French. The book is called Camp 308 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: of the Saints. So I responded and back and forth, 309 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: and I got the following. Some of the quotes from 310 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: the book mentioned in my original email remind me of 311 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: the Dan Crenshaw types and are extremely relevant to today's 312 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: news stories. 313 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: This individual is in Dan Crenshaw's congressional district. Here are 314 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: a few of those quotes. Quote. 315 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: When the time comes and the people of the West 316 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: see the last chance fleet approaching, they will stretch out 317 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: their white hands, not to push it away, but to 318 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: help it land, and that will be the end of 319 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: Western civilization. My friend writes this one sounds like it 320 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: could be a tweet from Dan Crenshaw himself. Quote, my brothers, 321 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: these are the poor, the humble, the meek. They are 322 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: Christ himself coming to us across the sea. We must 323 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: welcome them with open arms, with love, with everything we have. 324 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: Give them your homes, your food, your wives, if necessary. 325 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Sounded crazy in nineteen seventy three, didn't it. 326 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Other great quotes about the moral paralysis of the West 327 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: and the results. Quote to fire would be racist, To 328 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: turn them back, to turn back the fleet would be inhuman. 329 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: To let them land would be suicide. So we did nothing, 330 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: and that was the most human thing of all. Another quote, 331 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: in the name of compassion, in the name of humanity, 332 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: we will open our arms to them all, and we 333 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: will die. And finally France died that night, not with 334 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: a bang, but with a whimper of compassion. I'm always 335 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: amazed when someone is caught with their hand in the 336 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: cookie jar, when the public reaction is visceral and vociferous, 337 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: because they're not simply going to say, you're right, I 338 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 2: made a huge mistake. Forgive me, won't you. They're going 339 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: to defend, they're going to deny, they're going to deflect. 340 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: So I saw that. 341 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: Dan Crenshaw said, I served in Afghanistan, so first you've 342 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: got the service. 343 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say. 344 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: This show loves and respects our veterans, supports them not 345 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: only while fighting, but when they come home in the 346 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: many needs that they have. I also don't think that 347 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: service in uniform means that you can come back to 348 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: the United States, get elected to Congress, and bring a 349 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: bunch of Afghan nationals and push them into our neighborhoods. 350 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: This is very different than the Vietnamese resettlement. Very different. Indeed, 351 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: a number of other veterans have taken a different approach, 352 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: from Rob O'Neil to many more Sean Ryan and these 353 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: folks have said, I too, served in Afghanistan, and I 354 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: will tell you that this is a culture that is 355 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: incompatible with American life. Oh, for shame, can we say 356 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: that we're all the same the world over? You can't 357 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: possibly say that people are different. That's mean that'll hurt 358 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: someone's feelings. But is it true? What is this concept 359 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: of BATCHI there's so many military members talk about of 360 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Afghan military figures bringing little boys into their room and 361 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: chaining them to the bed and raping them anally for 362 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: long periods of time until they trade for another Are 363 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: they all making this up? Because some pretty well respected 364 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: veterans have claimed that that is commonplace. We're not talking 365 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: about a random guy here. We're not talking about the 366 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: Epstein files with just a few hundred one thousand. 367 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: We're talking culture. And that's only one If that is true, 368 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: is that compatible? 369 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: Does somebody leave that and come to this country and 370 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden fit in. 371 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: On the street corner boy? It is a dangerous notion. 372 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: To believe that every person across the world is the same, 373 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: that they share your same values, that they live the 374 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: way you do. I don't think many people are scared, intimidated, worried, distrustful, hateful, 375 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: bias prejudice toward another person because they have a different 376 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: skin color or language. We all agree that would that 377 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: would violate the Western canon. But we would also all agree, 378 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: and when we don't, we're dead. If you have traveled 379 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: that there are people in other countries who have different values. 380 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: In some countries, the rape of little girls is completely 381 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: acceptable because their Holy book says it is because their 382 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: quote unquote profit did it himself. Now, I would expect 383 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: that if I criticize the Malaysian soccer team, other than 384 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: a few disparate voices of descent nobody in this country, 385 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: from Beaumont or Ballinger or Baton Rouge would say, oh, 386 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be criticizing a Malaysian soccer team. But what 387 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: if I were to say, I find it disgusting that 388 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: in what is supposed to be a holy book a 389 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: person referred to as the prophet engages in the rape 390 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: of a child, and it is rape if it is 391 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: a child. 392 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Those are Western values. 393 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: The moment at which you are uncomfortable, We're not talking 394 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: about imposing our Western values on those countries, but the 395 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: moment you are uncomfortable defending your own value is the 396 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: moment your culture is dead. To their credit, the Muslims 397 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: of the Middle East do not deny what they believe. 398 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: They do not pander, and increasingly they're recording it and 399 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: sending it out Death to America chance on the streets 400 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: of Michigan and other places across the country. I don't 401 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: know how many Americans would go into a country where 402 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: they made up two three percent of the population and 403 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: start declaring death to that country, and when questioned, are criticized, 404 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: making threats demanding, hey, you should turn on your neighbors here, Frenchmen, Englishmen, Czechs, Danish, Swedes, Norwegians. 405 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Sho you turn on your neighbors because they don't like 406 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: what we're saying, They're not good people. There has been 407 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: throughout history a natural kinship with our own, our own tribe, 408 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: if you will, whether those be Tutons or Normans, Irish Spaniards, 409 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: they've always been degrees of kinship based on shared religion. 410 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: And if you look at the number of we'll call 411 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: them white people for the purposes of ease of conversation 412 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: as a very loose term here, if you look at 413 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: how many great wars, by great, I mean massive, if 414 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: not wonderful, how many great wars were conducted between Protestants 415 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: and Catholics. 416 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh what a world when. 417 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: That was the battle. But battle it was, and it 418 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: was fierce. Lands were plundered, people slaughtered, kings deposed, armies routed, 419 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: cities raised over people who all looked the same some cases, 420 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: speak the same language. If you look at the rift 421 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: between the people of the Irish Isle, Belfast and Dublin, 422 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: for instance, vicious. 423 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: You can't tell them apart. 424 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: The level of hatred they had for each other, not 425 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: based on race, not based on language, based on religion. 426 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: The Protestants of Northern Ireland and the Catholics of Ireland. 427 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: Also based on nationality, the Irish one of the island 428 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: to be Irish, the Northern Ireland Ulsters identified as Englishmen, 429 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: and they were willing to kill each other over it. 430 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Vicious, vicious stuff. 431 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: It is natural throughout history to have conflict on the 432 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: basis of differences and to identify with one's own whatever 433 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: that may be. And that is as true among people 434 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: who we would call black or brown as it is 435 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: between whites and blacks, or. 436 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: Whites and browns. 437 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: What a small worldview to think that the white American 438 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: is a terrible person that he doesn't want to hand 439 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: his job over to someone who just came here from 440 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: another country on a work visa, To think that he 441 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: should suffer being the victim of a crime to a 442 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: person who's a different color, because well, supposedly one hundred 443 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: and sixty years ago the roles would have been reversed. 444 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: But what are we to make of countries who are 445 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: the worst of the worst. If I made a list 446 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: of countries where you least want to get dropped down, 447 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: it was the most backward, the most violent, the most unjust. 448 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: You wouldn't simply discover or suffer deprivation. You would suffer 449 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: rape females and males. You would suffer violation, you would 450 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: suffer torture and death with absolutely no means of precourse, 451 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: no opportunity, no sense of fairness. You would say, wow, 452 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't want to 453 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: live in Albania. It ain't that bad. I don't want 454 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: to live in Malaysia or Indonesia, maybe Ecuador or Peru, 455 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: even Honduras and l Salvador. Before El Salvador's current leadership, 456 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: at least they made a pretense of trying to protect people. 457 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: They just couldn't control it from the gangs. If you 458 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: were make a list of the worst or the worst 459 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: of the worst. 460 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: You would come up with Somalia Afghanistan. But actually one 461 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: of their great assets is nobody ever visits there, and 462 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: the Western mind can't wrap itself around how bad it is. Well, 463 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: we like to think of things being bad in countries 464 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: because they have a bad government, but the people are good. 465 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: People are all kind and wonderful if they were just 466 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: given a chance. 467 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: But is that true. 468 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: Or at some point do we notice that it's not 469 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: the government that is the fault. Well, the government is 470 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: fraudulent and corrupt and all of those things. That the 471 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: culture is not the same as ours, that they do 472 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: not share our cultural norms. And isn't it interesting that 473 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: people who will tell you women are equal to men, 474 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: they deserve every opportunity. What about in countries where they're 475 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: rape from childhood, can't show their face, can't drive, can't work, 476 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: and can't vote. 477 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: Why you just don't like brown people.