WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Week 14 Crazy Predictions 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:03.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:10.600 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.960 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:20.320 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:26.600 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.960 It is Friday, December eighth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.639 number eighty seven. Welcome to a very special edition of 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.920 The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.440 And it is a very special day because it is 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.880 the birthday of one of our very special guests. It's 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:52.040 Amber Garcia. Happy birthday, Amber, Thank you, bran think of it. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.640 Although you offended me earlier, but why you gave me Okay, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.640 maybe a year. Let me ask a question at the 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.640 wrong age. There are all those people out there, Can 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.320 you get the camera that that isolated? Oh no, for 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.039 all those people out there, just just take a while guess, 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.600 Like I'm sure everybody's gonna guess. You're right there and 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.559 that right where I said, like it's in that range. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.280 Doesn't matter about the range, it's just like the price 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.479 is right. You can't go over. You can't. I should. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.360 I should have shot a little under just to be 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.920 just to be safe. It's okay. Nick offended me worse 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.440 the other day. He said I looked thirty. Oh, but 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.680 you don't look. He told me that. But you act thirty, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.080 but you don't look. I don't know. Give us one 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.880 of these, Tommy John Reids didn't see what happens? Go 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.120 to sixteen. Hey, get that thing ready though, can't because 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.319 we got it all week. Next week December birthday. It's 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.800 a birthday week. It's a birthday month. Really, like three 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.840 or the four people on this panel are panel? Is 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.600 that what we call this? Do you want to call 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.160 it a panel? What do you want to call it show? 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.560 I don't know. Okay, three or four people on this show, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.360 on air, on this show have birthdays in a month 0:01:54.400 --> 0:02:01.480 of December. Happy birthday, baby, Thank you? You're next week, right, damn? 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.320 Brian's next week? Yeah, Eric's later a couple of weeks. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:06.680 I'm in a couple of weeks. I'm at the end 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.320 of the month. I don't know. There's somebody. I don't 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.880 think somebody else. I'll make a row. I don't think. Yeah, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.519 that's it. I was a November. Yeah, I'm saying that. No, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.160 remember what does Brian baby November four? Me and Switzer? 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.400 And does baby does have the same birthday? Okay? I 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.760 thought you were just saying who do you share a 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:28.440 birthday with? Um? I don't know myself. Okay, there can 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.080 be only one. Everybody say to know who they share 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.360 a birthday with? I don't. You don't know that's something 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.639 I have in gool Gold. I don't know if you've 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.960 done that. I've I've googled it, but I don't share 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.000 a birthday with anybody. No word. In other words, Nick 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.400 is the only one that knows whose birthday? So who 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.040 who she loves? Saying this, well, oh well who is it? 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.640 I don't remember, but you've said it several times. And 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.120 when when I moved, I moved here from Oklahoma, and 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.280 like in February, late February, and so my birthday's March second. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.320 So I get there and I'm at seventh grade new 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.360 school here in Texas, and they start saying we have 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.799 a very special birthday to day and I was like, wow, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.520 that really? How did they know? It was Texas? The 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.600 state the State of Texas Independent Day March second and 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.519 doctor SEUs. It's a good jovie maybe but in me, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.640 But you guys don't. I'm the only one that knows this. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.600 I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know me and 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.800 can't we know who our birthdays are? All right? Well? Good, cool, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.120 that where you wanted to start the show. No, but that, 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.200 Happy birthday to you, Amber Hope. Thank you have a 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.480 great birthday and we'll celebrate hard this weekend. As we 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.000 head to New York. There should be no way now, no, no, no, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.280 what wrong statement? New new I'm sorry New Jersey. Yeah, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.040 as we traveled to New Jersey, and I would paint 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:48.800 Short Hills, New Jersey red, right from from Short Hills, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.960 New Jersey to Manhattan. Yeah, yeah, ain't nobody going in. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.720 I ain't doing that. But oh go to my office 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.080 and see if you can find someone's gonna go. Yeah maybe, yeah, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.520 I don't say nobody. There'll be a few, I'm sure. Yeah. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.360 All right, let's talk some Cowboys football. Let's start off today. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.000 We're gonna get to a lot of different things, getting 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.120 you guys ready for the Cowboys versus Giant says we 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.240 do every Friday. We'll talk about it in actives and injuries, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.320 and then a little later in the show, Nick's gonna 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.320 take us back in time and we're gonna talk a 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.760 little bit about the twenty and ten season. The Cowboys 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.760 were one and seven. If you guys remember, during that season, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:26.400 Wake followed, Phillips, ends up fired, and it began what 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:32.080 would later become a Emmy nominated Deep Blue called Sunday 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.479 at four fifteen, where we talk about a very similar 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.920 situation with the Giants are experiencing this week. Cowboys experienced 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.080 that back in twenty ten. Nick's gonna give us some 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.960 of the behind the scenes kind of details on what 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.120 happened that week, all except for one which I swear 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400 if he even goes there, I'm gonna strangle him. But anyway, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.800 we'll talk about that a little bit later in the show. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.000 Let's first start with some injury updates. Yesterday, Cowboys had 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.560 three players that did not practice Lyall Collins, David Irving, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.640 Orlando Skendrick. We know Skendrick is probably not playing. I 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.240 wouldn't even say probably at this point. I don't think 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.320 he's playing. He's not playing, um. But David Irving is 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.200 the one that still kind of interests me a little 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.520 bit because with the concussion, you kind of you kind 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.360 of wait and you see if if they kind of 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.279 are limited once you get to Thursday and the fact 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.159 that he still was not practicing as a Thursday, Is 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.520 there a reason for concern for Cowboys fans that he 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.880 won't play? Absolutely depends on who you ask anyone else. Yeah, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.280 and you ask the people that have followed this team, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.560 like you know us, and we see what they do 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.920 in this situation like this, he would think he's probably 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.880 not playing. But if you ask to Marcus Lawrence, he's like, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.280 he's fine, that dude's playing. He'll be out there. And 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.800 then he said, like he had that concussion in the 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:51.360 first quarter, so he played through that. Turned camera's oh, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.640 he's like, but Davis Dave, that's what he said. Davis Dave. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.640 You don't always know what's going on with him. But 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.120 he's fine. He's he's kind of crazy anyway. So I 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.760 don't know if he means fine for like life, you know, 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.359 for forever, or just like for this game. Yeah, that 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.680 Dave is Dave. Like that sets it up pretty well 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.400 for David Irving, Like he's he's a little crazy. You 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.520 said that here, fair that's I mean, Dave is Dave fair. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:21.160 It's I just if you're not participating by Thursday, that 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.479 doesn't seem like a good sign to me. I would 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.960 I would say, yeah, there's costs for concern that he 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.240 won't play. I'm not saying he definitely won't play, but 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.640 I mean usually, like with a concussion, usually a guy 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.520 who's practicing by thursdays. Zach Martin really didn't miss any time. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.240 So for him to be out for two of the 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.080 three practice days, I don't think that's good. The tough 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.880 part about it is even though you say a guy 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.120 like you know Lawrence says that, or even if the 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.839 person himself says, in most instances when you're talking about injuries, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.480 you can sometimes trust that because the players like, man, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.800 I'm playing, I'll figure it out. They'll give me a 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.640 shot whatever it takes on playing head injuries. Aren't that 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.839 like that, right? It's not in the players. The player 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.600 does not get to make that decision. There are other 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.360 people that make that decision for him. And so if 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.360 he's not practicing as a Thursday, and certainly if he 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.520 doesn't practice the day, you would have to think at 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.040 that point that there's a serious risk that he's not 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.440 going to play this weekend, but we'll see, We'll see 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.280 how that all plays out. Lyle Collins, he's had his 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.280 back injury nowt for a few weeks, still did not 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.280 practice as of yesterday. Is this still just a matter 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.400 of give him as much time as you can or 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.960 do you think there's a little more here? Well, he 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.400 didn't practice last week either, so and he had no 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.760 it was that was just a full a full week. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.040 This is even more of rest after the Thursday game, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.400 and I guess it's just better for him to stay 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.760 off his feet. I don't know. I I think he's 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.760 gonna play. No, yeah, I think he's gonna play too. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.000 I just don't know, but I think this is Yeah, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.000 this has turned into let's just manage this the best 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.560 weekend type of situation. This is a give him and 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.520 he may not practice much the rest of the season 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.880 kind of thing. I think so yeah, Yeah, he might 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.080 be one that goes on ir before if they if 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.160 they lose, if they lose games and they're out of 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.520 the playoff race, I could see if he's gonna have 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.480 some kind of surgery. It just seems like he might. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.480 Same with Tyrant too. On the back. Yeah, I just 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.840 hate when you start getting into situations where you're having 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.520 to have surgery on your back. Well, I mean I 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.400 hate when you have situations when you can't practice. Yeah, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.640 you gotta get I mean, but sometimes with back injury, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.240 it's a matter of give it time, time to heal, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.080 time to rest, and then it's okay. But you know, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.240 I don't and I'm jumping the gun. I don't know that. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.800 I don't really don't know. I could see Tyrant more 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.320 than La Lee because the Tyrant fought through this and 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.040 fought through this and then lall, this is kind of 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.080 the first year we really noticed. Yeah, but that usually 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.920 doesn't heal. I mean, once you have a back problem, 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.720 you're gonna have a back problem the rest of your life. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.680 But but I think there's sometimes when the issue that 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.120 you're having with your back, it's it's one of those 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.040 situations where it doesn't have to be operated on. And 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.080 I think that doesn't mean you're not gonna have chronic 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.719 problems the rest of you your life. But I do 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.360 think there's sometimes when you won't have to necessarily have surgery. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.839 You give it time, it heals, and you're able to 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.839 get back to doing whatever you were doing, and then 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.120 there is the process. There's always the possibility going from 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.880 there the year that it might flare back up, right, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.160 And so I don't know. I just when you start 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.840 talking about back surgery, really back injuries for guys that 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.440 are at their level of their career, that does concern 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.760 I think about Troy Aikman, actually Achman and like ninety 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.839 three or so, he had some back issues, had to 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.280 take court his own shots and stuff, and he played 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.079 eight nine more years, you know. So it doesn't mean 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.559 he wasn't hurting him at r but you know, right, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.400 and still you know, he fought through it for several 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:43.680 years too. I would guess that they'll be I mean, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.760 they'll be managing this for the rest of the year 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.559 with Lyle. That's that's the upshot. Okay, how about the 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.320 the guys that were limited in practice yesterday, any of them, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.520 uh stick out as as potentially not being able to 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.040 play at Bryce Butler with a foot injury. Malie Collins 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.480 has been kind limited for a while now with a 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.160 foot injury. Justin Durant, with this concussion, he goes back 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.880 to limit it, that should be a good sign for him. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.800 Sean Lee hamstring, we think he's gonna play, and then 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.800 Tyren Smith again with the back. What do you think 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.720 of those guys? And when I think of Durant, I 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.320 think of Sean Lee coming back and and Hitchens, and 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.120 they really haven't had all of those guys active. So 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.560 with him coming back from a concussion, I would think 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.240 he would be your guy that would be an actor 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.880 of this game. I don't march Lillard two or him 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.440 along with him, him first and then march Lillard if 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.360 you think if you need you know how. I don't 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.840 think Durant even wore a helmet to practice yesterday, Like 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.440 he was out there running around and he wore a jersey, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.439 but he didn't even have a helmet on. Like I 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.640 think they're just so he wasn't He wasn't taking part 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.160 in that. You're not saying he was out there with 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.800 the rest of the team practicing and they got on 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.000 helmets and he doesn't have on a helmet. Well theoretically yeah, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.640 like he was out on the field without a helmet on, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.600 but he wasn't taking part of all the same stuff. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.640 They didn't send him out there with a helmet on. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.520 You need a helmet. He was he was very limited 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.400 in what he was doing at it, I believe got it. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:14.520 So that's all what you and that that you put 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.320 Sean Lee and Anthony Hitchins out there together, I think, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.080 I mean, how many games has it been? How many 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.600 games have they had with the two of them this season? 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:29.160 Is that it? No? No, Hitchins wasn't even back for 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:34.040 Dinny it would have been um San Francisco. The three 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.320 game winning streak. San Francisco washed both of them during 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.800 address it Yeah. Yeah? And then what was the third game? 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.719 I'm Washington? What was the second game? Washington? Was a 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.880 second game than Kansas City? Kansas City? Sorry? Yeah? And 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.480 then Lee got hurt in Atlanta. So there're three No, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.000 when those two guys are playing, all right? So he 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.560 getting back and you go on a five game win streak. Awesome. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.440 I mean, I think I think that makes a really 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.120 big difference this week. Maybe not as much as others 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.560 because the Giants are really bad on offense, but you see, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.840 I mean they're one in five in games when they 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.559 don't have lead in five and one in games when 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.720 they do. And then I you know, Hitchins has had 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.360 an outstanding season. He's got he's got sixty tackles, even 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.440 though he didn't play for the first time until what 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.720 Green Bay. Like, he's playing really, really well. He had 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.760 probably the game of his career last week, one of 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.560 them at least. Let me ask you a big question 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.000 right now, if you had to make a decision on him, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.400 are you trying to resign him? Yes, But it's hard 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.000 for me to specify because, like I couldn't tell you 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.880 what his money is. Yeah, Like I don't know what 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.679 type of price he can command. I don't so, but 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.040 I'm like, you look at a guy Barry Church did 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.880 it longer. But I think in terms of like their 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.640 skill set and their talent level, it's probably similar. Like 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.880 you know, we had that argument in the offseason, like 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.040 not a Pro Bowl player, but probably about as good 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.120 as you can be without being a Pro Bowl player, 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.080 Which those kind of guys are valuable if you got 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.120 a Pro Bowl players with them, right point. Yeah, I mean, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.280 if you got him with Lee, that's a heck of 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.319 a player to pair with Lee, right I would love 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.000 to sign Anthony Hitchins to a deal that paid him 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.559 like four or five million dollars a year. Yeah, I 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.240 don't know if that's you think if you just don't 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.280 know if the market's gonna say that, Yeah, it's free 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.120 like it's it's like the draft, Like all it takes 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.439 is one team to decide that you're worth this amount 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.120 of money in the whole churches. Yeah, exactly. So I 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.760 would love to have him back for the right price, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.480 that's all. But I mean, I don't know what that 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.440 price is going to be, and I doubt I doubt 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.040 they do one hundred percent either, you know, because he's 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.480 one of those players that he's got to fit this scheme, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.400 and you know, he's really tough. Um. I remember when 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.319 when they drafted him in the fourth round. There was 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.120 a lot of people at that point thinking, God, that's 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.400 that's too high for him. I don't have him anywhere 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.160 on my sheets and all this stuff, And but Marion 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.320 Elly's like, he fits what I what we do. I 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.000 love his toughness, I love the way he reacts. And 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.400 there's gonna be some teams that maybe think that way. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.200 I don't know why. I keep thinking Pittsburgh would be 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.560 a good spot for him, but they don't necessarily pay 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.960 a lot. They also liked their linebackers to blitz right 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.240 from all over, even the middle linebackers. I don't know 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.560 if that's something he's own here that he does particularly well. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.040 I think he's a three four inside linebacker myself. Yeah, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.240 that's what I that's what I would play him. If 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.160 I were him, I'd go to a three four. When 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.800 he played middle linebacker, he racked up a ton of tackles. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.000 I think he would be pretty good there. He can 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.560 do anything. He can all played all three spots here 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.920 and done pretty well. But you know, I would, I 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.880 would sign him. I would try to sign him mainly 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.080 because I've got two other linebackers that are just hard 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.200 to trust right now. From a from health, Does he 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.920 not fall in that same category a little bit? Really? Not? Really? 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.440 He this has really been I mean only his only 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.400 games he's ever missed is this year. Yes, but but 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.960 he's played injured. Yes, he has played injured a lot. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.240 And and I think for him, I learned the hard 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.720 way because I talked to him about injuries and he 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.840 walked through all that. He was like, I never missed 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.120 the game of my career. Like right, yeah, you haven't 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.280 missed a game in your careers? Back talking like I 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.600 was just kind of get out of this, like yeah, 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.400 it was bad. It was he was serious. I mean, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.280 he was really nice about it, but he was like, yeah, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:11.800 you know, I've never missed a game, so I don't 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:16.800 know about the injury label really. I mean practice, you know, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:21.040 he missed practices and it's hot in here. That's gonna 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.840 be a tough one because between Lawrence and Irving you 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.760 have more prominent contract situations, and then Zach Martin is 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.920 another one. So he's like, I mean, he's a little 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.840 ways down your list of priorities probably, which again, they 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:38.720 I bet they would love to have him back, but 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.160 I don't know how much money they want to pay 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.000 him or how much they can afford to pay him 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.080 with all the other business they've got attend to. And 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.680 I think it's still is going to bend to depend 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.640 a great deal on what do they think of Jalen 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.480 Smith and how much has he grown this season from 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.680 the standpoint of getting better from that injury. If they 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.280 feel like he's ready to take on a full load 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.040 next year, then it's hard to go and pay Hitchens 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.280 four or five million dollars a year. And you got 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.280 lee in, you know, because they're they're nickel most of 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.840 the time, right, Yeah, don't. Sorry, go ahead, Well, I 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.000 was just saying they they kind of drafted this way. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.720 You know that they drafted Damien Wilson. He Damien Wilson 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.880 is supposed to be playing at this point, you know. Yeah, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.520 I'm just saying he's just but he's not right, and 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.640 they've had injuries he's had. There have been plenty of 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.560 opportunities for them to want to throw, for them to 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.920 throw him in there, and they just haven't. Between Shaun 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.920 Lee being thirty one thirty two and having another injury 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.160 battled season and Jalen Smith being the great unknown, still 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.840 just don't think you can go in the next season 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.240 without spending some sort of resource at the linebacker position. Yeah, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.120 I agree with that, whether you want to sign Anthony 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.200 Hitchins or use a draft pick one way or the other. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.680 And it sucks because maybe it'll wind up being redundant, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.040 like maybe Sean Lee and Jayalen Smith are both Pro 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.520 Bowlers next year. But we can't afford to just hope 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.640 that that's the case, because then you wind up in 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.680 a situation where if you don't have one or both 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.560 of them, your defense falls apart, which I hadn't seen 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.720 this year in that kind of situation, I think I 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.840 would opt for the draft pick just because again that 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.399 means that he's still developing while those two and hopefully 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.240 those two are ready to play. But you got this 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.120 guy that's kind of coming up and developing while those 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.800 two are playing, and if they get hurt, then he's 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.159 got to develop a lot faster. But I think I 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.840 might optical that where versus paying, because once you pay 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.520 the contract, you've paid the contract. I think I agree 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:26.840 with you, and that's what I mean. There's a big 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.320 caveat on that, which I think the world of Anthony 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.320 Hitchens is just one of those things where I don't 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.399 know if the money makes sense. And I think I 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.040 think for some team out there that would pay him 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.960 probably what he's worth, did get a really great player 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.800 for the money that he's worth. I just don't know 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.879 if that fits for what the Cowboys currently have and 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.959 what they're trying to do right now. I will say 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.000 I've said all this same stuff about Terrence Williams last year, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.359 and he wound up back here for much less than 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.280 I thought it would have taken to get him. So yeah, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:53.960 but we none of us expect the Church to get 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.239 the deal he got, So it goes both ways, right. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.600 It's frustrating how hard it is to predict the free 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.879 agent mark because it's important and fans want to know 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.960 about it, and it's you know, that's how you figure 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.160 out what your team's gonna look like. But it's it's 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.440 almost unpredictable. Terrence Williams got a lot less than all 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.880 of us expected. Yeah, but he's still getting more than 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.440 I think he's producing right now, there's no doubt. Yeah, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.520 no doubt. That was a severe discount, and it still 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.280 looks like a bad contract at this point. I mean, yeah, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.040 right now, No, I mean not get your point. He's 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.920 not wrong, it's just that when you put it that way, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.960 it's like, yeah, I think you're getting a great deal. Yeah, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.760 all right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.760 we'll quickly I'll run through our inactives list, and then 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:39.320 Nick has a story for Uce. He's gonna tellus a 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.960 little bit more about this Sunday at four fifteen last 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.879 I mean, it's our twenty and ten. What happened to 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.479 Dallas Cowboys in the same situation that those giants are 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.719 facing this weekend. We'll do that. Women come right back 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.600 this is Dallas Cowboys dot com radio. It can be 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.240 hard to find the right resource for learning about important 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.199 financial matters. 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