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Speaker 1: This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping

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Speaker 3: I thought the hooks.

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Speaker 4: Stow up the hooks right here, Media mash brought to

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Speaker 3: He is Clarence Hill, I am New He scrugs. Clarence Hill.

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Speaker 4: All Sports Dallas first Maiden Voyage weekend here the regular season.

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Speaker 3: My friend had to go.

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Speaker 2: They went great. Was a great weekend.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you from a personal standpoint because I went

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Speaker 5: to Texas, Michigan first big House, went to the Big House,

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Speaker 5: went up to the Big House. Texas Curbs, Michigan. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's just one hundred eleven strong. I went to tuscal

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Speaker 5: Loose last year. The scene is not like Tuscaloos, you know,

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Speaker 5: and certainly a big stadium, A lot of people, the energy,

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Speaker 2: Held to the victory.

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Speaker 6: That was cool.

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Speaker 5: It ain't nothing like uh a pregame scene, the scene

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Speaker 5: of Tuscalos, the game they scene and because it means

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Speaker 5: it means more, but it's just different. And and on

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Speaker 5: top of that, the Cowboys did to the Browns what

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Speaker 5: Texas did to Michigan. They weren't even the contest the game.

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Speaker 5: They stadium was empty down the third.

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Speaker 2: Quarter, third quarter it was.

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Speaker 3: And plus you were hanging with Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 5: So I got, you know, I had. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: funny because I thought I got tickets to the game.

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Speaker 5: I ain't say I bought tickets. I got tickets to

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 2: We know.

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Speaker 5: And then I got blessed with the sideline passed. I said,

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Speaker 5: it's just pre game, no the whole game. So I

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Speaker 5: was on the sideline. No, you used that first touchdown,

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Speaker 5: the passing in zone. I was right there point helping

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Speaker 5: the referees. Uh, you know, say he was in you know,

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Speaker 5: but I was on the sideline. Yes, I took a

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Speaker 5: picture of Matthew Conye certainly talked to most of the

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Speaker 5: Texas coaches and other people on the sideline. Somebody almost

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Speaker 5: got me picture with with with with Texas governor.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I got to move back but he

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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 5: I certainly talked to McAfee, the guys from the pregame

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Speaker 5: show and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was it was a personal experience.

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Speaker 5: It was one of the personal great greatest personal experiences

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Speaker 4: So we talked Friday or Thursday on the media mash

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Speaker 4: and I said, with your luck the Dak Prescott deal,

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Speaker 4: what happened on Saturday when you were at the Michigan

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Speaker 4: Texas game.

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Speaker 5: Listen, listen window into the behind the scenes stuff. I

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Speaker 5: texted Dak Saturday morning. I said, look, man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: be at Texas Michigan. I'm gonna be at the Big House,

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Speaker 5: a hundred of them strong. I might have shaken Seres.

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Speaker 5: Serv don't let this go down between twelve and three

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Speaker 5: o'clock on Saturday afternoon. You know that you got the

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Speaker 5: iPhone heat that light budon. You know he liked so

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Speaker 5: he saw it.

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Speaker 2: He liked it. He didn't answer the question. He liked it.

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Speaker 2: I get back to the hotel and I make the drive.

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Speaker 5: It's only a three hour drive from ann Arbor to

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Speaker 5: Mission to the clear Eveland. It's like driving Austin from

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Speaker 5: me and people he drove. It's like driving them down

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Speaker 5: I didn't drink.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to. I had one drink all day

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Speaker 3: Did drink.

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Speaker 2: I didn't drink excessively.

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Speaker 5: I had one drink and that was after the game

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Speaker 2: But you know, crazy it was. It was cold.

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Speaker 5: It was in a forty degree it was forty I mean,

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Speaker 5: When I got to Cleveland, it was forty degrees forty

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Speaker 5: And so, you know, just so my voice, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, I lost my voice a little bit. But

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Speaker 5: I drive back to Cleveland, go to the TM Hotel,

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Speaker 5: see some people's sources, people's and you know, I'm always working.

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Speaker 5: What's going on where we're at. They said not yet,

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Speaker 5: they said not yet say. The exact word was, we

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Speaker 5: still got time. And you go back to Friday, Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 5: Stephen Jones on both on local radio radio in San Antonio,

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Speaker 5: they were eerily quiet about the Dark Deal. They didn't

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Speaker 5: about the Dark Deal to one to five, to three

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Speaker 5: Why y'all quiet? Something afoot, you know, and clearly some

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Speaker 5: the years, and they said, we're working on this, getting close,

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Speaker 5: still got time. So go always was to get a

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Speaker 2: Even though they said they.

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Speaker 5: was best for everybody, the team, everybody. So this would

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Speaker 5: not be something we have to answer questions week after

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Speaker 5: week after week, even if you're still negotiating something.

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Speaker 2: You have to talk about.

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Speaker 5: So the goal to get it done before kickoff and

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Speaker 5: lo and behold true in Jerry Jones' fashion, the true

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pre up.

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Speaker 5: The first major Sunday of major NFL Sunday with this

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Speaker 4: Make him the highest paid player in the National Football

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Speaker 4: League four years, two hundred and forty million dollars, two

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Speaker 5: And that's crazy, you know, and listen, we go all

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Speaker 5: the way back to last year. The reports came bas

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Speaker 5: gonna be sixty million. There were you know, you talked

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Speaker 5: the market. And what's crazy to me is that if

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Speaker 5: with the Cowboy negotiating against themselves, would you think you

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Speaker 2: An open market? Oh, it was I've changed sixty five

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember who I heard talking about this recently,

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Speaker 4: and it was a medium member. They said the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: got a deal on the open market.

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Speaker 3: It would have been more for.

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Speaker 4: The sight And we know from from having conversations with

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Speaker 3: On Saturday.

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Speaker 5: It was funny because you know, Dak is in the

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Speaker 5: we met in the midline somebody.

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Speaker 2: You see, if somebody let me because I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: like how you meet in the middle of sixty I

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Speaker 2: mean that's five million more then the highest paid player.

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Speaker 5: Three three of them, Trevorer and Murra Burrow and uh

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Speaker 5: Love got fifty five.

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Speaker 2: You got five million more than the highest paid player.

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Speaker 2: And you're gonna talk about we met in the middle,

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Speaker 2: what you asked for, what you had for? You know?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so that just tells you that.

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Speaker 5: And I know, going back to the combine, you know,

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys was not trying to pay fifty five back then. Hey,

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Speaker 5: why did you get it done back then? Because the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys were not trying to pay that much money.

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Speaker 2: They were not.

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Speaker 5: And like I tell people, Jerry's always run out the

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Speaker 5: ground ball. He always try to convince you to take

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Speaker 5: he's gonna always until the end he gonna take your

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Speaker 5: you know, it's funny because Jerry was on the radio

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Speaker 2: They're gons to be traded. They're not gonna sign with

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Speaker 5: They get mad he got to do lol, And he

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Speaker 2: All that was all mad.

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Speaker 5: And like I told people, I've been telling people, it's

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Speaker 5: be mad about Daddy, don't give me this, and Daddy,

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Speaker 5: I want this and I don't want that. You're gonna

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Speaker 5: get that when Christmas Day comes and they see what's

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Speaker 5: under that treaty always smiling. When Christmas Day come, they

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Speaker 5: always smile. And I don't care if Christmas comes to symbol. January, May, July,

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Speaker 5: August or September, Christmas came on deck and it was

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Speaker 5: smiling that Jerry Jones told the fan yesterday when people

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Speaker 5: ask him, aren't you worried about guys getting mad getting mad?

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Speaker 2: He said, money cures all bad feelings.

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Speaker 5: I don't know any bad feelings that money can't cure

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Speaker 5: or bad feelings that money can't care, And he's right.

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Speaker 4: You and I were there with the other media members

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Speaker 4: of I as CD LAMB. Did you were daking at any

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Speaker 4: point going to Jerry to say why'd you make us

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Speaker 4: go through this? And he said, nah, we kind of

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Speaker 4: you wanted to, right, yeah, but they know we had

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Speaker 4: to go through the ringer to get our money.

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Speaker 3: But they got the money and.

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Speaker 4: As always ceedee Lamb record number, Dak Prescott record number,

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Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott record number DeMarcus Lowrence.

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Speaker 3: Highest paid cowboy at the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for the most part, these guys a Marii Cooper,

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Speaker 4: they're getting their money and.

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Speaker 5: Was also true, but yes, you say that, Jack Martin

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Speaker 5: got money. You say that, But CD also admitted last

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Speaker 5: week that he was getting asked it. He was like,

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Speaker 5: get the deal done, you know. And so there are

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Speaker 5: guys that are blink and who's not gonna blit. You

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Speaker 5: gotta have a strong agent. It's not gonna let you blink. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I would submit this. I think Trevor on Diggs took

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Speaker 5: less money he did. That's my point though, so so

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Speaker 2: That's what set the market.

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Speaker 5: You still got to go pay another ten to twenty

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Speaker 5: And it's funny to say he probably did take lesslie

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Speaker 4: What do you say to the fan that questions whether

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Speaker 3: Five right here, thought the hooks.

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Speaker 4: All right, okay, Dak Prescott signs his contract. By the way,

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Speaker 2: You can't mess with them.

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Speaker 5: Another game, baseball, you got pregame, go locker room, cover

444
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Speaker 5: the mass.

445
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying baseball, but but football, No, how dare

446
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 2: you getting then ask questions before the three hours before

447
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 2: the game, dur intense, They're not.

448
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 3: You would love to cover NASCAR anyway.

449
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 5: So I was getting so crazy that at such precious

450
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Speaker 5: time they talking to going hugging babies with their family,

451
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 5: but no hugging the agents. But know, if I get

452
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 5: down and ask one question of I'm messing with their time.

453
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Speaker 2: Stop it. Anyway, I was not there for Jerry talking.

454
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: That's why, you know, some.

455
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Speaker 3: I was.

456
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Speaker 5: I know you weren't, you know Morning News one day there,

457
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: you know, mean David More was thought about that.

458
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: I saw David at the end and then he came

459
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Speaker 3: Archer at the end. It's too late, Yeah it was.

460
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Speaker 2: It was. It's crazy, It's like, what are we doing, guys?

461
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Guys? I mean, it's it's fixing

462
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: this rich, fix this rich.

463
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I was not there, but I saw Jerry. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 5: I know, we saw, you know, and I saw the

465
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Speaker 5: quotes and Jerry was you know, and Jerry's gonna sell it,

466
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Speaker 5: you know, just like you asked the question and I

467
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Speaker 5: did it.

468
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Speaker 2: For it. I want the fans to go through it.

469
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Speaker 2: You know.

470
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Speaker 5: It's like it's like he's gonna sit here, gonna bring

471
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Speaker 5: up the deon stuff, you know.

472
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Speaker 2: I HARKing back to the time when I signed them

473
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Speaker 2: on twenty twelve million dollars. I went back to my hometown.

474
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 4: I walked down the street and I looked at the

475
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: sign and there was a guy that I looked at

476
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 4: before A bought the Cowboys, and then they looked like

477
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 4: he was right there getting well, you.

478
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: Know, that man was still there.

479
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Speaker 5: I was just like, if you know that man, you

480
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 5: are eighty one years old, do you think that man

481
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Speaker 5: and he was a grown man then was still there

482
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Speaker 5: on the same port.

483
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Speaker 2: This This is the.

484
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Speaker 4: Point time where I tell people, well, we had to

485
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Speaker 4: do story time with Jerry, and it's veering all off.

486
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: In the hell, he gotta tell his story, you know.

487
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Speaker 4: And you're holding you either you're holding you, you're holding

488
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: your recorder. I'm holding your hand's getting tired. Oh yeah, yeah,

489
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Speaker 4: I switched hands.

490
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Speaker 2: Shake. I switched the heart. You know, you got to switch.

491
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Speaker 5: You're telling this story like you can't own the universe.

492
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 5: You can't own the Cowboys, like you can't own the

493
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Speaker 5: University of Texas. You get on the husband for a

494
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 5: little while. I'm just husband and the Cowboys a little while.

495
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 5: You know, the same stories over and over, and I

496
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 5: can recite them as they come out of his mouth.

497
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: But it's just like when he told me we want

498
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 5: to get Dack done and get him done, but it

499
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 5: won't happen before the season, you know, he just you.

500
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Speaker 2: You have to write it.

501
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Speaker 4: And so you know, I said, did you play us

502
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: in the media, Yeah, it's great, you got the whole

503
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 4: scratch off, the scratch off thing, I had a whole prescott.

504
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Speaker 3: Did you play us?

505
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Speaker 4: You know?

506
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Speaker 2: And why did you do? See fans? Yeah?

507
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Speaker 5: So, so getting back to the course at the hand,

508
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 5: the expectations were d and.

509
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Speaker 4: Whether they deserved it, Yeah, that was that was the question,

510
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: because you set it up here from you on the

511
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: media match we're here, the.

512
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Speaker 3: Deal gets signed.

513
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Speaker 4: I get texts from people I know is Dak worth

514
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Speaker 4: sixty million?

515
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Speaker 3: You get the same thing.

516
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Speaker 4: And these are usually people we know who are cowboy

517
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Speaker 4: fans that just hay like, hey, just give it to

518
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Speaker 4: me straight. Maybe you don't say it on the air,

519
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: but you tell me is he really worth it?

520
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: Well?

521
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Speaker 5: I mean that's what they were asking. I mean, who

522
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 5: is worth what? That's that's my problem with the worst song?

523
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Speaker 5: You worked, whatever the man gonna pay you? First of all,

524
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: stop pocket watch? Is the NBA players? I mean to me,

525
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 5: let's be honest. Are policemen, are firefighters? Our teachers should

526
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 5: get more than what they get it we're talking about

527
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 5: our doctors, people that save lives should get more than

528
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Speaker 5: what they get. When we're talking about worth, okay, if

529
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 5: we're talking about value and worth, but when we're talking

530
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Speaker 5: about the industry, a private industry that makes billions of dollars?

531
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Speaker 5: You know, are the soccer players worth what they get?

532
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 5: Are the Cowboys franchise worth eleven billion dollars when Jerry

533
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 5: paid an undred forty million for it? I mean, let's

534
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Speaker 5: do it. Are these those parking passes at AT and

535
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 5: T Stadium worth one hundred dollars? Is that beer you

536
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 5: can get at the store for two dollars worth ten

537
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: dollars at AT and T Stadium?

538
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Speaker 2: If you're don't talk about word, talk about it all.

539
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: You pay a ten dollars for a slice of piece

540
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Speaker 2: of at at and T Stadium, you get a whole

541
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Speaker 2: piece for that. Domino's but you pay it.

542
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Speaker 5: But you okay, Papa Johns, give me Papa John's, but

543
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: you pay it at AT and T Stadium.

544
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Speaker 2: Right, you pay it? So is that worth it?

545
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: He's worth what the market says he's worth. And that's

546
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 5: what the market bears. Don't tell me, Patrick Holmes.

547
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: Don't get that. Patrick Holmes signed a bad deal. His agent.

548
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 5: They signed a bad deal. Let's be honest about that.

549
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: His agent needed some money, needed to come back, needed

550
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 5: a deal. They signed a bad deal. They signed too early.

551
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Speaker 5: Keep it real, and I love his agent.

552
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Speaker 4: You and I have probably worked alongside each other for

553
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: too many years now because I ended up saying one

554
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: of the same things. I said, Hey, look, it's like

555
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: what we learned in read the Kasacks class in TCU negotiations.

556
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: It's not about what you're worth, it's what can you

557
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: negotiate and what is the leverage that you have? And

558
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 4: as you look at the situation, what are the pluses

559
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: on your side and what are the pluses on the

560
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Speaker 4: other side. And you spoke about it last segment, Scott

561
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: was going to count forty million dollars against the salary

562
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Speaker 4: cap in twenty twenty five, whether he played for the

563
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Speaker 4: Cowboys or whether he was playing for the New York Giants.

564
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Speaker 3: So if you're Jerry Jones, I have to pay forty

565
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: forty million dollars to committed salary cap.

566
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Speaker 4: Then, like you said, have to go out and get

567
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Speaker 4: who knows what other kind of quarterback for twenty million

568
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: dollars or whatnot?

569
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Speaker 2: Which is they bargain?

570
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Speaker 3: Right's sick though, that's.

571
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Speaker 4: Gonna get you Baker Mayfield coming off the rams and

572
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: you don't know what he's got anymore.

573
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Speaker 3: That's the kind of deal you're getting.

574
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Speaker 4: So that's sixty million right there, right there, that's sixty

575
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: million I'm paying for a quarterback and most likely lesser quarterback.

576
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott had the leverage. And when Trevor Lawrence.

577
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Speaker 4: Gets fifty five million dollars and has nearry the resume

578
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Speaker 4: of Dak Prescott, five million dollars more for a proven

579
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Speaker 4: guy that you know like and trust.

580
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Speaker 5: You know, it's not going barrass You're gonna do all

581
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 5: the right things because that matters. I'm trying to you know,

582
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: all that mattered at all part of it. And then

583
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Speaker 5: you add the fact that you paid all his money

584
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Speaker 5: for CD lomb You're not going to pay this kind

585
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 5: of money with CD Lamb and not ensure that you

586
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 5: get the most out of that investment by making sure

587
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: he has his quarterbacks. We'll get in the ball, right,

588
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: And so work is not a matter of what the

589
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 5: question is the question you need to be asking which

590
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 5: people are are rightfle to asking.

591
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Speaker 2: Well, not is get paid? Can we win with it?

592
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Kenny Capbell, that's the question that But.

593
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Speaker 4: And the last thing I also said on this at

594
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Speaker 4: what point in time do you not blame management for

595
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: continuing to wait to sign these deeps you, as I said,

596
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Speaker 4: when Hurts and Jackson got paid fifty with fifty three

597
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: for Hurts and around fifty four for Jackson, that was

598
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: the time to go get it done, all right, this

599
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: is where the market is.

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Speaker 3: Labar Jackson in two time, MVP, go here, let's beat that.

601
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Speaker 3: Ce D Lamb.

602
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Speaker 4: You're still waiting around here, You're waiting around and boom,

603
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: you get got Tank Lwis. You waited around and you

604
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: got got Amari Cooper. When they made the trade with

605
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: the Raiders for Mari Cooper and gave up a number one,

606
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: why wasn't he immediately signed to a deal when he

607
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: got here? And you keep seeing Philadelphia sign these guys.

608
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: There's three deals that I've said before. When Carson Wentz

609
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: got paid by Philly, that's when the Cowboys should have

610
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: paid Dak.

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00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: Well.

612
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 5: See, and so I would say I don't know that

613
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: they got got. It just seemed like they got got

614
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: Jerry got no problem, understand. But let me go with

615
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: the biggest problem with the Dark deal, because I'm just

616
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 5: trying to tell you couldn't You couldn't have got dacked

617
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 5: for that money last year because they the money was

618
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 5: already Those deals are not The Cowboys deal set up

619
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Speaker 5: Dak's money, okay. And CD was always waiting on Jefferson

620
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Speaker 5: to sign. He was always he was never not going

621
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Speaker 5: to sign. He was never gonna sign before Jefferson.

622
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

623
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Speaker 5: So it takes it takes two to tango. You can

624
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: you can desire to get those deals done now. Shouldn't

625
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 5: have done it in June rather than August, Yes, but

626
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: they weren't getting CD's done deal done it year early.

627
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: He was not signing last year. Okay.

628
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: My issue with the Dak deal is back in twenty

629
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Speaker 5: nineteen when the quarterback money was still twenty twenty million dollars.

630
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: They should have him before they signed. WinCE and Golf

631
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: got deals before the money exploded to they could have

632
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: got that done. Yes, they could have got the that

633
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: deal done then and signed to an extension before as

634
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: rookie deal was up. Because you know, it's funny because

635
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: I've told this story a few times, I've written in

636
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: it a few times. But twenty sixteen, we're we're in

637
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowl Houston, Jery gets deducted Hall of Fame, big

638
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame party. It's the same year as Zeke

639
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: and that when Rookie of the Year honors and all

640
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 5: this other stuff.

641
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: They're in a big hotel in.

642
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: US or needs some big room in Houston hotel just

643
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 5: the window into the life of insider. But I'm there

644
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: and where everybody's drinking and Jerry's the passing out drinking.

645
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Everybody's there and having a good time.

646
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: Stephen Jones telling me, then we're gonna make that the

647
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 5: highest paid quarterback and then history don't write it. Don't

648
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: write it now. It's between us. We're gonna make that

649
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: the highest paid quarterback. Enough for history went that in

650
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. Well, it's actually the Two Bowl in twenty

651
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: seventeen in Houston.

652
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: They what did they do.

653
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 5: What he said two times. Well, he wasn't the highest

654
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: until last time. Twenty wasn't highest because mahomes deal was

655
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 5: still Now he wasn't Mahomes will still averaged more. He

656
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: was number two, and then I think Allen went above him.

657
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: He wasn't the highest at the he was number two,

658
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: but he had the better deal because it was shorter deal,

659
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: you know.

660
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: But so this was gonna come.

661
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Speaker 5: You know, you you played with the Cowboys. You do

662
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: what you're supposed to do. You play, you know the

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Speaker 3: He's Clarence, He'll all sports Dallas on New He scrugs,

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Speaker 3: here makes I fire bringing you this show today. Here

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Speaker 3: Ogg shout out to the crew out there in Orleans.

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Speaker 4: He appreciate the bruhs over there, all right, Clarence, Dak

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Speaker 4: Prescott paid yes the conversation and talk about Michael Parsons

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Speaker 4: being next. But to me, it's really not Michael Parsons

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Speaker 4: the person who should be next in my opinion. I

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Speaker 4: want to get your thoughts on this. Head coach, Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: We saw this team play well in all three phases

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Speaker 4: against the Cleveland Browns in the past.

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Speaker 3: I would call this a Jason Garrett special team.

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Speaker 4: Come out there, not ready to focus, get beat, and

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Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out what you do all summer long.

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Speaker 3: They came out there and got their job done.

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Speaker 4: I look at what Mike has put up with all

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Speaker 4: spring in summer, with the Dak Prescott questions with the court,

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Speaker 4: you know, with his contract CD Lamb, with the contract,

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Speaker 4: his own contract. He never misstepped at all on what

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Speaker 4: he said, and this team was ready to go. I

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Speaker 4: think they have a very good locker room culture of

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Speaker 4: the guys here. You give me your take, I feel

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Speaker 4: disrespectfully and have a deal.

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Speaker 5: I think Mike McCart did not get enough credit for

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Speaker 5: the job he's done here. You know, three straight twelve

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Speaker 5: and five seasons, and they were on their way to

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Speaker 5: a wonderful season in twenty twenty. If Dak doesn't get hurt,

747
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Speaker 5: you look at the numbers and numbers Deck was putting up,

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Speaker 5: and people talk about the numbers last year, Dak was

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Speaker 5: putting up reconstting numbers.

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Speaker 2: You know that defense was awful.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but the way he managed that team at the

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Speaker 5: end of the season, the way he managed the Cowboys twelve, five,

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Speaker 5: five and twenty five. Again, nobody has more wins over

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Speaker 5: the last three years than Mike McCarthy, accept Andery.

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Speaker 2: Big difference.

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Speaker 5: Ery got two super Bowl titles, Mike MacCarthy got one

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Speaker 5: playoff win, and Mike McCarthy was his super Bowl experience,

758
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Speaker 5: was brought here to replace Jason Garrett to do what

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Speaker 5: bring the Cowboys back to the super Bowl board not

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Speaker 5: just get him to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Because Jason had done that a few times.

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Speaker 5: You know, they were supposed to excel and when he

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Speaker 5: was supposed to bring his lovely expertise to get the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys back over the hum.

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Speaker 2: That remains the goal, That remains the task at hand.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how you can guarantee him a new

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Speaker 5: deal without achieving that goal.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what Jerry is. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And listen, you know they're they're not here to to

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Speaker 5: tread water, you know. And you got all these guys,

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Speaker 5: You're paying all these guys.

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Speaker 2: You set this up. And the thing about it is is.

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Speaker 5: They's spent of the two playoff losses at home. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna go with the San Francisco laws.

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Speaker 2: They weren't ready to play. They weren't ready to That

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Speaker 2: is the to get them ready to play.

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Speaker 4: Are fair all day long. The disappointments of the playoffs

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Speaker 4: are fair. I will kind of spin this to you

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Speaker 4: in a little bit of terms of something near and

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Speaker 4: dear to your heart, the University of Texas. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: how I used to tell you all the time for

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Speaker 4: all your your disappointments in my man Ricky from Hickory

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Speaker 4: Rick Barnes. Look at you now, it's not the point

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Speaker 4: Rick Barnes. Rick Barnes off keeping Rick Barnes and look

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Speaker 4: at you now.

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Speaker 5: Now I don't have a problem with us now, So

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Speaker 5: I mean we can we get to make that all day.

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Speaker 5: Uh Rick Barnesy never Greg Barnesy never wanted nothing. Rick

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Speaker 5: Barley never won and still the never won nothing. Okay,

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Speaker 5: still ain't never want nothing. And you're talking about a

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Speaker 5: basketball program. I'm talking about I thought to go to

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Speaker 5: the football program with Tom.

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Speaker 2: Murman, and you know there's a level of standard.

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Speaker 5: Well that's like I know, because there's a level of

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Speaker 5: standard and the Cowboys are compared to the Cowboys. The

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Speaker 5: level of standard is compared to the football program. You're right,

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Speaker 5: you know they have a higher level of standard. Okay,

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Speaker 5: they have won titles. Okay, they are blue blood football,

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Speaker 5: not basketball.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me finish though. Again, I hope

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy gets a new deal.

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Speaker 5: I like Michae McCarthy. I love our relationship. I think

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Speaker 5: Michael marccarthy as cool as hell. You know, we have

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Speaker 5: a great relationship. Okay, he's just not coaching like a

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Speaker 5: guy with the world. The world has said he's loose,

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Speaker 5: he's having fun. I like the way menage team in

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Speaker 5: training camp. At the end of the day, he was

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Speaker 5: brought her to win.

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Speaker 2: He knows that.

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Speaker 5: Everybody else knows that. And Jared talked about that he's putting.

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Speaker 5: He didn't make no changes. He put the heat on them.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's the last year their deals. That says everything you

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Speaker 5: need to know. You can't compare that to the player

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Speaker 5: of contracts, you know, because the players they gonna be here.

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Speaker 5: It's the coaches who are interchangeable, you know. They if

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Speaker 5: Jason Garrett found out, I don't care how much I

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Speaker 5: like you, You're not always gonna be in the family

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Speaker 5: picture ten years.

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Speaker 2: You're not always getting ten years. That's fine. And he's

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Speaker 2: not always gonna be in the family the picture. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna move on.

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Speaker 5: And I think Jerry really likes Mike mccarth That think

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Speaker 5: Mike Mike mccartt excuse me, likes the relationship with Jerry.

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Speaker 2: It was, you know, he had it was a learning process.

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Speaker 3: It feels very disrespectful that he's having to sing for

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Speaker 3: a supper.

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Speaker 2: He's not having to sing for something. He's having to win.

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Speaker 5: This is I mean, you as a coach, you're hired

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Speaker 5: to get fired. As a coach, you understand what the

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Speaker 5: goal is. As a coach who spent all those years

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Speaker 5: in Green Bay won and did not win for all

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Speaker 5: those years that got fired because of Aaron Rod whatever.

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Speaker 5: He understands what the goal is. He understands what the job.

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Speaker 5: He's understand what the task and is. He wants to

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Speaker 5: win badly, you know, And I think that Dak wants

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Speaker 5: him here. He's been great for Dak Prescott, yes, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so it's the best for organization to keep him

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Speaker 2: going and keep this thing going forward, find a way

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Speaker 2: to win. But at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 2: gotta win, especially with Bill Belichick hanging out there waiting

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Speaker 2: his wings to get a new job, and Jerry already saying,

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Speaker 2: I like Bill Belichick, I can work for Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Remind because you know, people are talking about there's this question.

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Speaker 5: Everybody said, well, what's gonna keep fans coming to the stadium.

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Speaker 5: So almost like when he had to go get Bill

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Speaker 5: Parcells to get some more credibility if they don't win,

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Speaker 5: and fans this fan base right now is that what's

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Speaker 5: going into the season with disillusioned frustrated zephyr and you

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Speaker 5: do it again, you don't win.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be worse next year. So what's gonna excite

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Speaker 2: the fans? Tell me?

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Speaker 3: You know he scrub I don't see him.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. What's going to excite the fans because they

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Speaker 2: seen this show before?

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Speaker 3: Some free agents?

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Speaker 2: What what free agents? What free agents means.

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Speaker 5: You're paying Michael You gotta pay Michael niggas off season.

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Speaker 2: So what's gonna excite the fans?

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Speaker 3: I don't think a coach is gonna oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, don't don't do that. Don't do that. Yes

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Speaker 2: you you you're alive. I'm just gonna see it never

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Speaker 2: was supposed to cost about.

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Speaker 5: You gonna lie if you don't think Bill Belichick with

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Speaker 5: excited fan base like Bill Parcells did when it was

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Speaker 5: they were trying to sell what we were trying about

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Speaker 5: what he was tying. No, it's not, no, it's not

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Speaker 5: It was David camp on Bill. Bill Parcell's not the point.

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Speaker 5: This is the seven six times Super Bowl champion. I'm

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Speaker 5: just we're just talking and listen with all do that.

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Speaker 5: No disrespecting Mike Cover.

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Speaker 2: Bill. I think Mike stay. I want Mick to stay.

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Speaker 5: I think Mike. I think Mike is a great coach.

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Speaker 5: And I hate to be bringing this up. You made

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Speaker 5: me do this, but we were just having this conversation.

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Speaker 5: I think Mike's to stay and be the code next year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm leave it right there.

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Speaker 5: I feel like and we didn't answer this question before

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Speaker 5: you leave. Dak Prescott needs to win now. You got

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Speaker 5: the money. They need to uphold your end of the bargain.

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Speaker 5: You're sixty million dollar man. It's gonna be tied to

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Speaker 5: your name forever, the sixty million dollars man. When you

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Speaker 5: don't win, you're the sixty million dollar man. And didn't win,

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Speaker 5: you right now, the sixty million dollar man. It got

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Speaker 5: two playoff wins on the resume. So that's what's on

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Speaker 5: deck's back now too.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, if it's two guys right now, they're

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Speaker 4: in the same boat as Lamar Jackson and it's Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, who you've got to do more. You've got

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Speaker 3: to do more.

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Speaker 4: And you know, similarly, on this seemingly Dirk Novinsky like

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Speaker 4: path where we saw Dirt with a bunch of, you know,

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Speaker 4: a bunch of playoff disappointments until finally he ended up

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