Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's boy and you keep I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he.
Speaker 1: Said, Hi, Ras jess Ev Please, hey Boo, it's me
Speaker 1: ros Dress Flees. Do you have a nice Halloween? Welcome
Speaker 1: to November. Only eleven more months till next year. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna continue my ask Me Anything portion of the show
Speaker 1: because we have another full episode this week with our listeners.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna answer a couple of questions before
Speaker 1: we get into that. One question that I love that
Speaker 1: people often ask me, and I appreciate you asking me,
Speaker 1: is that, uh, they want to know what pronoun to
Speaker 1: use when describing me, and I get it. It can
Speaker 1: be very confusing, and trust me, it's confusing for myself.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time that we live in these days
Speaker 1: where we are discussing gender identity. I mean, it's something
Speaker 1: that unfortunately I was in my late twenties to by
Speaker 1: the time I started being involved in these conversations. But
Speaker 1: it's great. It's wonderful that we are acknowledging multiple gender
Speaker 1: identities these days in the way that we are on
Speaker 1: such a you know, such a broad conversation, and I
Speaker 1: will say, I think what best describes me as a
Speaker 1: non binary person. I don't really like to think about
Speaker 1: it too much because it's just, you know, it's sort
Speaker 1: of a gender fluid thing as well, where some days
Speaker 1: I'm more you know, I feel more masculine, some days
Speaker 1: I feel more feminine. But I think ultimately I'm just
Speaker 1: sort of this creey of femininity. And then when I
Speaker 1: when I go into work, instead of wearing a work uniform,
Speaker 1: I wear wigs and makeup and and then I become
Speaker 1: this creature of hyper femininity. So I think, I think
Speaker 1: she when we're talking about the persona of rosdres Feles,
Speaker 1: I definitely think she is most appropriate. They is not
Speaker 1: really something that I like for myself. When I hear
Speaker 1: people describing me as they or them, I get a
Speaker 1: little bit confused because I think you're talking about multiple
Speaker 1: people and that whole conversation. So I like she or
Speaker 1: just RAS, And he's fine too. I won't get offended.
Speaker 1: If a ghost child tried to hold your hand, would
Speaker 1: you let it or would you run from the room.
Speaker 1: Note that you don't actually know if it's a child
Speaker 1: or not. Okay, if any child held my hand, I
Speaker 1: would run out of the room. So yeah, when will
Speaker 1: Elena be back? On the podcast, asked, Wow, you guys
Speaker 1: love her so do I? I don't blame you. I
Speaker 1: talked to her recently and we're gonna do something really cool.
Speaker 1: So she will be back and it will be sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later. So don't you even worry. Who would
Speaker 1: I want to play me in a movie? Megan Markle?
Speaker 1: She is still an actress. Don't forget it. What is
Speaker 1: it like being so fabulous? Exhausting? What's your boy name?
Speaker 1: I don't really have a boy name anymore. I just
Speaker 1: go by Roz. What's my favorite meal? Panda Express, orange
Speaker 1: chicken with chow, main favorite beverage Lacroix, Tangerine. What movie
Speaker 1: or music gives me life? Movie Alvira, Mistress of the Dark,
Speaker 1: or Boogie Nights or Showgirls or Carrie? And music that
Speaker 1: gives me life? The B fifty Two's all right, let's
Speaker 1: listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too, Celia, Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: where are you calling from?
Speaker 3: I am in Denver, Colorado?
Speaker 1: No way. Do you think that that airport is run
Speaker 1: by the Illuminati?
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if it is, because there's
Speaker 3: a lot of weird energy in there and a lot
Speaker 3: of weird stories that I've heard about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that weird horse with the red eyes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lucifer, is that what they call it? Terrifying?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: I heard that it killed the artists that made it
Speaker 1: when he was making it. Is that true?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: He did, he fell on top of him.
Speaker 1: Okay, if anyone, I.
Speaker 3: Always see it as like a bad omen for flying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to keep it up if anyone is listening. I mean,
Speaker 1: I try it to get two into conspiracy theories. But
Speaker 1: I have been to the Denver Airport and I didn't
Speaker 1: know about this and someone told me, like, oh, the Illuminati.
Speaker 1: It's like this whole conspiracy about the Illuminati, and I
Speaker 1: looked it up and I don't know, it's convincing.
Speaker 3: There's some weirdness going on there, but yeah, I definitely
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they're shady shit.
Speaker 1: I No, there's like gargoyles and stuff as decorations. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's talk about ghosts. So you're from Peru, am I correct?
Speaker 3: I am?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I was born there and my parents met there. My
Speaker 3: father's from there originally.
Speaker 1: Amazing, and what kind of ghost stories do you have
Speaker 1: to tell?
Speaker 3: Okay, so there are quite a few. I tried to
Speaker 3: condense it, but it really started off with a couple
Speaker 3: of stories that I was told about myself when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, So I don't remember these, but these
Speaker 3: are a couple that my parents always told me when
Speaker 3: I was growing up, around the time when I was
Speaker 3: actually conceived, my parents were just a couple of young
Speaker 3: lovers running around Peru and they were partying one night
Speaker 3: at the Nascal Lines, which I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: heard of that or if any of the listeners have lines.
Speaker 1: Talk about conspiracy theories right exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So everyone should definitely look it up if you
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: alien stories and things that come from that region, because it's.
Speaker 1: One of those like natural things like Stonehenge or something
Speaker 1: right where pyramids where there's just some ancient artwork where
Speaker 1: people are like, uh, I'm pretty sure this was aliens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can only see the structures from the
Speaker 3: sky in an airplane and they're like perfectly straight lines, huge,
Speaker 3: like for thousands of miles. I think the whole thing spans,
Speaker 3: So everyone's like curious about how they had the technology
Speaker 3: to be able to do that. Yeah, So my parents
Speaker 3: were just being why there one night and my dad
Speaker 3: was in the car playing music, and he said that
Speaker 3: my mom was dancing in the headlights and at one
Speaker 3: point he saw a bunch of shadow figures start to
Speaker 3: swarm her and kind of entrance her, and she was
Speaker 3: like loving it and dancing with them, and it really
Speaker 3: freaked him out.
Speaker 4: So he decided to.
Speaker 3: Grab the gun that he had in the car, like
Speaker 3: a little old handgun, and he just shot it in
Speaker 3: the air to break the cells, so to speak. But
Speaker 3: that soon after that they found out she was pregnant.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if I was actually there at
Speaker 3: that moment, but there were basically shadow figures around my
Speaker 3: mom at the time.
Speaker 1: Whoa, and she knew, she acknowledged them, and she was
Speaker 1: dancing with them.
Speaker 3: She said she felt like an energy, but she didn't
Speaker 3: see them or anything. Only my dad did. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't know, nyah. Yeah. And then fast forward a couple
Speaker 3: of years later and we were living in Colorado and
Speaker 3: at one point, just all of a sudden, they said
Speaker 3: that I started having really bad nights haares, So I
Speaker 3: would try to fall asleep and then I would just
Speaker 3: wake up screaming and panicking every time. And I wasn't
Speaker 3: old enough to say what I was seeing or experiencing
Speaker 3: that They just knew that I was terrified about something,
Speaker 3: so they were trying to figure out what to do.
Speaker 3: But around the same time, my dad was working with
Speaker 3: a Native American shaman up in the mountains here and
Speaker 3: he was doing advertising for his shop and had to
Speaker 3: go pick up a check from him. So he told
Speaker 3: my mom, you know, why don't we bring the kids
Speaker 3: and we can just get away for a day in
Speaker 3: the mountain. But he didn't tell the shaman that he
Speaker 3: was bringing his family, and he had never told him
Speaker 3: anything that was going on with me. But when we
Speaker 3: pulled up in the driveway, the shaman immediately came out
Speaker 3: and went directly to me in the car, and they
Speaker 3: were like, uh, what do you do And he's like,
Speaker 3: I can sense, but there's a very strong presence traveling
Speaker 3: with you guys, and it's attached to her, and don't worry,
Speaker 3: I'll explain everything, but I just need to like see
Speaker 3: her for a moment. So he went to me in
Speaker 3: the car seat, and they said that he was rubbing
Speaker 3: my head and chanting something. I'm not sure exactly what
Speaker 3: language it was or anything, but when he was done,
Speaker 3: he looked at them and said, don't worry, She'll be
Speaker 3: able to sleep now.
Speaker 2: And they were like, what, how did you know?
Speaker 3: And basically he said that he could sense that I
Speaker 3: had a very strong aura energy and that I would
Speaker 3: need to be careful with that throughout my life because
Speaker 3: that makes me more susceptible for negative entities wanting to
Speaker 3: attach to that, to basically feed off of me. And
Speaker 3: when they looked, yeah, when they looked back in the
Speaker 3: car at me, I was dead asleep and I think
Speaker 3: I slept for like over twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh. Yeah. So do you feel like
Speaker 1: you you are susceptible to like dark energies?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that was just the beginning. I've actually
Speaker 3: seen too Shawman since then that have told me the
Speaker 3: same thing. And basically, throughout my life I experienced sleep
Speaker 3: paralysis a lot and always kind of felt like I
Speaker 3: was never alone. But then when I was in college
Speaker 3: in my early twenties, we moved into an apartment complex,
Speaker 3: and I think the energy in the building had something
Speaker 3: to do with it, because everyone that lived with us,
Speaker 3: had really went through difficult like emotional crises at the time,
Speaker 3: and there was actually like a shooting later we found
Speaker 3: out in the building and there was something off about
Speaker 3: the building, So I think that might have been related
Speaker 3: to why this picked up. But the minute I moved
Speaker 3: in my sleep paralysis became like constant. It was every
Speaker 3: single night I would see this shadow figure open the
Speaker 3: door in my room, and over time it progressively would
Speaker 3: get closer and closer to me. Like it started off
Speaker 3: outside of the room, but by the end it was
Speaker 3: like hovering over me, and I could feel a breath
Speaker 3: on my neck and like feel the covers being pulled
Speaker 3: off of my seat, and it got very very close.
Speaker 3: But within that time when it was escalating, I think
Speaker 3: part of me, this is a little bit shameful to say,
Speaker 3: but whatever, I kind of enjoyed it because I would
Speaker 3: also get really sexually erosed for it, So I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: If it was like an incubus situation or sometimes when
Speaker 3: I'm trying to rationalize it, I think maybe I just
Speaker 3: like really had to pee all of those times I
Speaker 3: was station.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't it kind of sounds.
Speaker 1: Like the best boyfriend ever. Like know, right, you don't
Speaker 1: even have to like listen to him, you don't even
Speaker 1: have to talk, just he just shows up and breeds.
Speaker 3: On you at night. Yeah, just gets the job done
Speaker 3: and then goes bye. So I was kind of excited
Speaker 3: by all of it, and I was doing some things.
Speaker 3: But you know, looking back on it, I was definitely
Speaker 3: young and naive and not really to the warnings that
Speaker 3: I had been given. But I started becoming more withdrawn
Speaker 3: from my friends and family, and I would choose to
Speaker 3: stay home, like on the weekends and stuff and hold
Speaker 3: these little like seances, I guess you could call them.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't look up any specific ritual or anything,
Speaker 3: but I would just like sit in the dark with
Speaker 3: candles around me in a circle and hold a mirror
Speaker 3: up to my face and basically just invite like whatever
Speaker 3: wanted to come in, like let's party, I'm open.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was definitely like encouraging what was going on,
Speaker 3: And at one point when I finally became concerned, there
Speaker 3: were two things that happened right around the same time.
Speaker 3: I started noticing a lot of physical changes in myself,
Speaker 3: Like I was throwing up all the time, and it
Speaker 3: was like this black file that was really gross, and
Speaker 3: my skin became really dry and like no amount of
Speaker 3: lotion or anything would help.
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is odd.
Speaker 3: And then at that time, also my friends said that
Speaker 3: they were starting to experience things in the apartment, like
Speaker 3: we had a really heavy wooden chairs in our living
Speaker 3: room and we would hear them slamming down and sliding
Speaker 3: across the room and no one would be there. And
Speaker 3: one of my friends said that she bought some bananas
Speaker 3: and they were on a banana stand about ten feet
Speaker 3: away from where our stove was, and she was standing
Speaker 3: at the stove cooking and all of a sudden, she
Speaker 3: hears something fall behind her and she looks down and
Speaker 3: the bananas were smashed at her feet. So yeah, so
Speaker 3: they were starting to get freaked out, and I was like,
Speaker 3: uh oh, maybe I should tell someone what's been going on,
Speaker 3: since it's escalating and affecting other people. So I finally
Speaker 3: told my parents, and my mom put me in spiritual
Speaker 3: boot camp, as she calls it. We went to a
Speaker 3: non denominational church, did a sage cleansing, and then her
Speaker 3: friend recommended a shaman that she knew, and so I
Speaker 3: made an appointment with her and she did a crystal
Speaker 3: cord cut cleansing, which you guys can look up, but
Speaker 3: it's basically where you use crystals to cut any negative
Speaker 3: energetic ties that you have. So she did this whole
Speaker 3: ceremony and she started talking about my past lives. But
Speaker 3: I got the sense that she was frightened by what
Speaker 3: she saw, because she basically just said, You've been through
Speaker 3: a lot of trauma, a lot of abuse, a lot
Speaker 3: of grief. Don't ever do past life regression therapy. And
Speaker 3: she was just like, very adamant that I don't. I
Speaker 3: later inadvertently found out some things about my past life,
Speaker 3: which I'll get to, but she seemed very concerned about it.
Speaker 3: And the main thing that she said was that she
Speaker 3: saw one large demon basically and a bunch of little
Speaker 3: ones that had been following me throughout various lives. And
Speaker 3: she said that these, yeah, that they had been with
Speaker 3: me basically since the very beginning, and that I've lived many,
Speaker 3: many lives and they've always been there. But the cleansing
Speaker 3: that she did really work, So for a little while
Speaker 3: nothing was happening. Really. My sleep paralysis turned into astral
Speaker 3: projection dreams, which is amazing. So that's fun now and
Speaker 3: what I enjoy this. Yeah, so sleep paralysis is definitely
Speaker 3: the precursor to astral projection from what I've learned. So
Speaker 3: now when I notice my body falling asleep, I get
Speaker 3: excited because like I can stay consciously awake, and then
Speaker 3: that's when I can leave my body, is when my
Speaker 3: whole physical body falls asleep.
Speaker 1: But what are you doing when you're when you're asleep.
Speaker 3: Laying there in the bust? Okay, myself and my partner
Speaker 3: and I just go like flying around the city. Basically
Speaker 3: you go flying around the city.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cool. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, just a
Speaker 3: flying lucid dream. But I wake up like shooting out
Speaker 3: of my body and I can see myself there and
Speaker 3: the room is the same, everything is the same, and
Speaker 3: I usually just jump off the balconies.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and then I'll just list a few things if
Speaker 3: we have time quickly, because there is another story with
Speaker 3: the other Shawman.
Speaker 1: Wow, I feel like you need a full length episode.
Speaker 4: I know there's been so much.
Speaker 3: Feel free to cut me off at any point because
Speaker 3: I know it's a lot.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, but keep in mind, We're going to
Speaker 1: keep doing this kind of show. You can always come
Speaker 1: back if you want to, like take more time with
Speaker 1: certain stories, just so you don't feel rough.
Speaker 3: Well, really, I'm sure by then I'll have more. Okay,
Speaker 3: A lot of things have been happening, like technology malfunctioning,
Speaker 3: me seeing things in the room. I actually had to
Speaker 3: take the battery out of this light because it would
Speaker 3: not turn off. A lamp flew off the table when
Speaker 3: I got really upset when I was talking to someone
Speaker 3: about Trumps. Oh wow, I'm obviously not a fan, but
Speaker 3: I felt this like jolt and the lamp flew off
Speaker 3: the table and landed in the weirdest possible way. So
Speaker 3: things like that were happening. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe I should see another shaman just to see how
Speaker 3: to control and hopefully be able to harness some of this,
Speaker 3: like in a more controlled way. So just a week
Speaker 3: and a half ago, I saw another shaman, and I
Speaker 3: hadn't told her really any details about the past one,
Speaker 3: just that I had had some issues. So I'd seen
Speaker 3: shaman before, but now I just feel really energetically charged
Speaker 3: and want some guidance on that. And basically that was
Speaker 3: all I said, But when I got there, she told
Speaker 3: me that she saw that I was a spiritual portal.
Speaker 3: But in the beginning, she said that she couldn't see
Speaker 3: any light coming from me, like there was no positive
Speaker 3: light energy. She said that she could see me like
Speaker 3: in a cave or a hole, and that I was
Speaker 3: being basically held captive by one very large evil entity
Speaker 3: and a bunch of little small ones. So exactly what
Speaker 3: the other lady had said. Wow. And then she went
Speaker 3: more in depth into the past lives that she saw.
Speaker 3: There were two that stood out to her. In one,
Speaker 3: she said that I was a witch who had decided
Speaker 3: to practice black magic, and I guess in that life
Speaker 3: I really let these entities like completely take over my
Speaker 3: life and ruled everything I did. And she said that
Speaker 3: she saw a lot of blood and a lot of sacrifice,
Speaker 3: and that she had even seen me like killing my
Speaker 3: six month old child with an obsidian blade. And I
Speaker 3: think she saw how unsettled I got by that, but
Speaker 3: she was like, no, but what I'm sensing is that
Speaker 3: you were actually trying to save him because you knew
Speaker 3: that you had basically brought this negative energy into the
Speaker 3: world with him, and then you suddenly grew a conscience
Speaker 3: and decided you wanted to help them. So, wow, sacrifice
Speaker 3: my child for his greater interest, I guess. But then
Speaker 3: she said, prior to that, where she had seen where
Speaker 3: all of this started was during Egyptian times. So she
Speaker 3: saw me surrounded by Egyptian like pharaohs and priests wearing
Speaker 3: these masks like the Horus god mask and all those
Speaker 3: different masks, and that they wanted to punish me for
Speaker 3: some sin that I had committed. So it was really
Speaker 3: the Egyptians that started all of this for me.
Speaker 1: Wait, but that's also where apparently I was What if
Speaker 1: I was the one punishing you, or what if we're
Speaker 1: we're friends? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know I thought about that, knowing you were going
Speaker 3: to be talking about that. Maybe I'm talking the one
Speaker 3: that started this.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, please keep me updated and hopefully we can
Speaker 1: talk more about this in the future. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, anytime.
Speaker 1: Where are you calling from?
Speaker 4: I am calling from Atlanta, Georgia. Actually i'm north. I'm
Speaker 4: close to Canton, which is like about you know, forty
Speaker 4: five or an hour north of actual Atlanta. Oh, but
Speaker 4: it is the Atlanta area.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should do a live show in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: You totally should. I would a one hundred percent go.
Speaker 4: I think think that that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, maybe maybe twenty twenty, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: Yes, you should totally do that in Atlanta, and like
Speaker 4: you know, Savannah of course is super haunted. And then
Speaker 4: you've got Kennesaw that has the Kennesaw Mountain battlefields that
Speaker 4: are supposed to be super haunted. And there's tons of
Speaker 4: haunted places around us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, where are the haunted places that you've been?
Speaker 4: So I've been to Kenesaw Mountains, but I haven't really
Speaker 4: had any experiences there. And I mean, of course, my
Speaker 4: half of my family is from the Appalachian Mountains and
Speaker 4: there's tons of stuff that goes on up there.
Speaker 1: So is that where your grandparents' house was?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was where my grandparents' house was. Where they
Speaker 4: saw that white dog that put its paw on that
Speaker 4: brick in the fireplace and then there was that baby
Speaker 4: skeleton underneath that.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so tell us all the story.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So that is like a family story that
Speaker 4: gets passed down through all of our generations. But it
Speaker 4: was like my great great granddad in the Appalachian mountains
Speaker 4: and it was back when there was no houses anywhere,
Speaker 4: and they got this house and it was an old
Speaker 4: style farmhouse where there's just two rooms and one room
Speaker 4: is where you do everything, like it's the family room,
Speaker 4: it's the dining room, it's everything. And then the second
Speaker 4: room is where you sleep. And so there's just one
Speaker 4: door separating the bedroom and the kitchen, and then one
Speaker 4: door that goes to outside. And of course, since you're
Speaker 4: in the middle of nowhere, you're not going to lock
Speaker 4: your doors. And they had just moved in and they
Speaker 4: were and when they woke up the next morning, the
Speaker 4: front door was wide open, and my granddad was like,
Speaker 4: our great great granddad was like, okay, that's weird. So
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna close this door and lock it. And
Speaker 4: then they went to sleep again. The next morning, they
Speaker 4: woke up and the front door was wide open again,
Speaker 4: and even though he had locked it, so this time
Speaker 4: he was like, okay, well, I'm going to close and
Speaker 4: lock the front door and close and lock the middle
Speaker 4: door in between the two rooms. And when he woke
Speaker 4: up that next morning, the middle door was wide open
Speaker 4: and unlocked, and so was the front door, and there
Speaker 4: was a pure white dog inside their home and in
Speaker 4: the front room. They had one of those big fireplaces
Speaker 4: that was made with all of the flat natural river rocks,
Speaker 4: and it had one large river rock right at the
Speaker 4: very base of it, and the dog had its paw
Speaker 4: on that river rock and it just sort of locked
Speaker 4: eyes with my great great granddad and they stared at
Speaker 4: each other for a minute, and then the dog just
Speaker 4: walks away. Well, my granddad takes that stone up, and
Speaker 4: underneath that stone was the skeleton of a baby.
Speaker 1: What yeah, what do you mean, Like it was like fossilized.
Speaker 4: No, like it was already like decomposing everything, but it
Speaker 4: was a legit just baby skeleton of a baby human
Speaker 4: like you know, it was forever ago. So the baby
Speaker 4: probably passed away from you know, like either like at
Speaker 4: birth because they probably were birthing all their kids in
Speaker 4: that house and everything. Sure, and the family just put it,
Speaker 4: you know, under that rock is a way of burying it.
Speaker 4: But my granddad is like not and went and buried
Speaker 4: it outside. And when he gave it like a proper grave,
Speaker 4: they never had any issues that the doors opening ever again.
Speaker 4: He never saw that white dog ever again. So I
Speaker 4: don't know what like if it was you know, maybe
Speaker 4: like the way the baby was trying to communicate to
Speaker 4: be like, hey, can I get a proper burial? Or
Speaker 4: maybe it was like the ghost of the mother of
Speaker 4: the baby that was like, hey, I don't know, Oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, that poor baby. It's like, uh, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be under a rock and a fireplace.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you guys are putting all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 4: Ony you're standing on me. Can I just go on
Speaker 4: the ground please?
Speaker 3: Cause yeah weird?
Speaker 2: M h.
Speaker 1: So that house is it still in the family.
Speaker 4: Or no, no, no, it's not in the family anymore.
Speaker 4: They sold that property a long time ago because they
Speaker 4: like ended up transitioning to like their own They bought
Speaker 4: their own mountain, right like that side of my family.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Actually, my great great grandmother was one of the first
Speaker 4: women to own her own land in the state of
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Oh yeah, so she's pretty badass.
Speaker 1: Okay, So wait, what is this business with Hell's Church?
Speaker 4: Okay, So the history of it that I know is
Speaker 4: it's a church in Canton, Georgia. And if you like,
Speaker 4: if you go on to any website that has a
Speaker 4: list of haunted places, in Georgia. They usually have Hell's
Speaker 4: Church listed on there. But the history of it I
Speaker 4: know is that it used to be a Satanic church
Speaker 4: and yeah, and they would bring people in under the
Speaker 4: notion that they were going to be baptizing them. And
Speaker 4: they have a natural creek that runs behind it, and
Speaker 4: the natural creek sort of makes its own little pool
Speaker 4: area and that's where they'd say they'd be baptizing these people,
Speaker 4: but they would actually drowned them as like a Satanic
Speaker 4: sacrifice and a ritual that they were doing. So there's
Speaker 4: supposed to be, you know, a lot of heavy activity
Speaker 4: because tons of people are supposed to have gotten murdered there.
Speaker 1: Think about being like like underwater ghosts. That is the
Speaker 1: scariest thing ever. Wait where is this located. This is
Speaker 1: in Georgia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in Canton, Georgia. So Canton, Georgia is roughly
Speaker 4: about an hour north of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: And the weird thing is with the church. Now, I
Speaker 4: haven't been there in five years. I refuse to go back,
Speaker 4: so I don't know what it looks like now. But
Speaker 4: when you when I went in there, it's like in
Speaker 4: the middle of the city of Canton, which Canton is
Speaker 4: a small city. It's like more like a little town.
Speaker 4: You know. You've got some grocery stores, you've got gas stations.
Speaker 4: They have like a Michael's craft store. That's like the
Speaker 4: big store they have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, my dream man is Michael.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear that one hundred percent. But yeah, so,
Speaker 4: but it's in the middle of all that city. And
Speaker 4: you go up a road and you take a left
Speaker 4: in the road that you're on forks and if you
Speaker 4: go to the right, it is a subdivision, like a
Speaker 4: plain old subdivision that I would never live in personally
Speaker 4: because it's too close to that church. But it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, newer houses and everything. And then if you
Speaker 4: go to the left, that road only goes to the church.
Speaker 4: It dead ends into the church, and you go winding
Speaker 4: back through all of these woods, and it's like the
Speaker 4: city drops away and disappears, and you are in the
Speaker 4: middle of nowhere, even though you're like right there. And
Speaker 4: that's it's so weird how it's positioned, because you're surrounded
Speaker 4: by just like acres of trees.
Speaker 1: Sound like that, Nope, Yeah, that's like do you want
Speaker 1: to live or do you want to be possessed by
Speaker 1: an underwater.
Speaker 4: You decide exactly exactly Michaels, Yeah, right. But so the
Speaker 4: first time I went there was right when I moved here,
Speaker 4: because I used to live in Wisconsin and I moved
Speaker 4: down here in two thousand and five, and it was
Speaker 4: like some people that I had met and I was
Speaker 4: like eighteen, and I'm like, oh, let's go find ghosts.
Speaker 4: This will be fun. And so the group of us
Speaker 4: goes to house church and first we go during the
Speaker 4: day because we're gonna find this baptismal poole. And so
Speaker 4: you have to like hike sort of through the woods
Speaker 4: to get to it, but you find it, and the
Speaker 4: creek is a very like shallow creek, but it does
Speaker 4: make a really deep pool, like it's definitely deep enough
Speaker 4: to drowns and people in and I know it's so creepy,
Speaker 4: but nothing. I didn't experience anything there. I didn't feel
Speaker 4: anything weird, and so I was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: and back at that time, even though I've had weird
Speaker 4: things happen to me in paranormal experiences, I was still
Speaker 4: leaning towards the side of like the skeptic. So this
Speaker 4: whole time, I'm like, whatever, this is kind of dumb,
Speaker 4: you know. So then we went that night and we
Speaker 4: brought a camcorder because we're like, we read somewhere that
Speaker 4: if the camcorder loses focus and stuff like that, it's
Speaker 4: because there's an apparition. I really don't think that's true.
Speaker 4: I think that's some like internet stuff the scare kids.
Speaker 4: But we brought our cam quorder and we were out
Speaker 4: there and we were walking around for a while. And
Speaker 4: the thing is is like the road that you drive on,
Speaker 4: you have to drive on it for like a solid
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes at least until you get to this church
Speaker 4: and you're just out in the woods. Is it just
Speaker 4: like yeah, it's yeah, it's totally pitch black, so sad,
Speaker 4: and you know how creepy it is driving through the woods,
Speaker 4: just your headlights lighting up everything. And so you go
Speaker 4: through the woods and then when you you go out
Speaker 4: to a tiny little call de sac, and to the
Speaker 4: right side of the call de sac is the church
Speaker 4: and it's just a one story white building. It's not
Speaker 4: extrac e egant and doesn't have like a huge steeple
Speaker 4: on or anything. And then to the left is a
Speaker 4: very small graveyard. It probably has maybe like twenty or
Speaker 4: thirty grades in it. But the church had been remodeled,
Speaker 4: and you they have these two like French doors on
Speaker 4: the front of it, and then windows on either side
Speaker 4: of that, and when you look through the window, you
Speaker 4: can see the security system, the alarm box for it,
Speaker 4: and the light was red, so the security system was
Speaker 4: on and it was totally armed. And then it has
Speaker 4: one spooky street light at that called a sack, just
Speaker 4: sort of illuminating everything, and it's one of those orangey ones,
Speaker 4: so everything's like this orange glow. It's kind of eerie.
Speaker 1: Wait, so, but what is this church now? It's like
Speaker 1: a Christian church or what.
Speaker 4: I think it's a Baptist church, but it is still
Speaker 4: a functioning church, like and I'm pretty sure it's a
Speaker 4: Baptist church. I'm not one hundred percent. I haven't looked
Speaker 4: at it in a minute to see what it is,
Speaker 4: but it's definitely a functioning church.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting that it was a say, Batanic church,
Speaker 1: and now it's a Baptist.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, that's like the history of histories that it was
Speaker 4: the Satanic church. I'm sure the people you know that
Speaker 4: go to church now are probably like, that's not true.
Speaker 4: But regardless, the place is definitely haunted. So whether like
Speaker 4: that Satanic church history that goes around is true or not,
Speaker 4: it's definitely haunted. There's no question in my mind that
Speaker 4: it's haunted. So whether it's like a scary Satan ghost
Speaker 4: or just like some regular run of the mill where
Speaker 4: just regular ghosts.
Speaker 1: Just a good old fashioned woods ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah. So we had walked around the grounds
Speaker 4: in the woods for a little while and nothing was
Speaker 4: really happening, so we decided to leave. And the way
Speaker 4: you pull up in the Call to Sac is your
Speaker 4: cars are sort of in a line along it right
Speaker 4: next to the church the entrance. And as I was
Speaker 4: walking back towards the cars, one of the girls that
Speaker 4: I was in just goes, oh my God and covered
Speaker 4: her mouth and just looked terrified. So I turned around
Speaker 4: to see what she looked at, because she was looking
Speaker 4: at the front of the church. And the front door
Speaker 4: opened on its own and then closed on its own.
Speaker 4: And I watched this happen and I was like.
Speaker 1: Nope, we need to leave with the security system on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the alarm did not go off, it was
Speaker 4: it didn't go off at all. And they had checked
Speaker 4: the doors the doors were locked, and it just came
Speaker 4: open on its own, and it came open big enough
Speaker 4: for a human to come out, and then it closed,
Speaker 4: so didn't like fly open. It looked just like someone
Speaker 4: nonchalantly what opened the door, walked out and then closed
Speaker 4: the door behind them. And it was not windy, none
Speaker 4: of that business was happening. Nobody was by the door.
Speaker 4: It just totally did it on its own. And so
Speaker 4: I'm like nope, and we all left, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm still like at this point kind of being
Speaker 4: like skeptical, trying to reason why it happened and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. And then years later, like maybe five years ago,
Speaker 4: I was like telling the person I was dating at
Speaker 4: the time about Hell's Church and he's like, let's go,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, okay, totally this is great. And
Speaker 4: so once again we go at night, we're winding along
Speaker 4: the road and then I just get hit with like
Speaker 4: a wall of just oppression is the best word that
Speaker 4: I can describe it. It was heavy, like it felt heavy,
Speaker 4: it felt like something, and we weren't even at the
Speaker 4: church yet, We're just still winding through the woods and
Speaker 4: it was just heavy and oppressive and it felt bad,
Speaker 4: Like it didn't. I wasn't scared, it wasn't fear, it
Speaker 4: was something different. And I'm like, this is just all
Speaker 4: in my head, so I don't say anything about it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're over reacting. This is all on your head.
Speaker 4: It's just something weird that's happening. And so we're sitting
Speaker 4: in silence for a minute, just under this crushing oppression,
Speaker 4: and he says, do you feel that? And I was like, yes,
Speaker 4: we need to turn around right now. This is not okay.
Speaker 4: And he's like, no, I still want to check it
Speaker 4: out and stuff, and I was like, I'm not leaving
Speaker 4: this car. And so we pull up and he gets out,
Speaker 4: walks around, and I sit in the car and I'm like,
Speaker 4: this doesn't feel right to me. What it felt like.
Speaker 4: It felt like whatever sort of like entity or being
Speaker 4: or energy is going on there told me all right, girl,
Speaker 4: you had your fun before. This is a warning. Don't
Speaker 4: come back here. That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no problem, I will never be back.
Speaker 4: But it was just like so oppressive, and the fact
Speaker 4: that it was like silent for a minute and then
Speaker 4: him being like do you feel that?
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, this is not okay.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like girl, we opened a door,
Speaker 1: just waiting to see what's gonna happen if you keep going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super it was super scary. I've had
Speaker 4: like other weird paranorl happenings that didn't feel scary. That
Speaker 4: was the one that felt malicious, like that was the
Speaker 4: one that I had that It was like a warning,
Speaker 4: like a bad things will happen if you keep coming
Speaker 4: back here, and so I will. I refuse to go back.
Speaker 2: It won't go back.
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun to go. What if
Speaker 1: when I go do a live show there? What if
Speaker 1: we went.
Speaker 4: It just I would love to tell you how to
Speaker 4: get there. I will legit give you directions on how
Speaker 4: to go. It's just like it felt like one of
Speaker 4: those things that you need to listen to, like if
Speaker 4: the feeling was all encompassing, like it was my entire being. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had this oppression against it that was like you're
Speaker 4: pushing your luck And I was like, that's something that
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to listen to. But if
Speaker 4: you want directions, I will tell you how to get there,
Speaker 4: no problem, oh.
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't want to go swimming in the creek.
Speaker 2: We can, we need to get in that thing.
Speaker 4: But it was like wintertime and it was kind of
Speaker 4: cold out. But I totally would have gotten that. Maybe
Speaker 4: I would go during the day, But I'm not going
Speaker 4: to go at night again, because whatever's hanging out there
Speaker 4: at night time doesn't want me there anymore. And I'm
Speaker 4: gonna listen to that. I can't. It's like nothing I've
Speaker 4: ever felt ever again, at any point in time in.
Speaker 3: My life ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, before we go, tell me, can you tell
Speaker 1: me like a happy paranormal experience or I mean one
Speaker 1: that you didn't feel like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So like when we lived in our
Speaker 4: house in Wisconsin. That house was uh super old, and
Speaker 4: I had I was like doing my homework in the
Speaker 4: kitchen and the entire room like there was a lot
Speaker 4: of pressure build up in the room that I could
Speaker 4: feel it. You know how when it gets like so
Speaker 4: quiet that you can feel the quietness. Yes, And we
Speaker 4: had like this cake, this glass cake platter, and it
Speaker 4: just busted. It just shattered everywhere.
Speaker 2: Nothing was by it.
Speaker 4: It was sitting on the counter mining its own business,
Speaker 4: and it just exploded and it wasn't scary, Like I
Speaker 4: didn't feel afraid. I was just like, WHOA, that was
Speaker 4: so weird. I don't know, like what did that like
Speaker 4: if it was like a kind of energy or if
Speaker 4: it was like paranormal activity going on.
Speaker 1: But was there other like paranormal stuff in that house?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Did you think it was haunted?
Speaker 4: Now? I would have so I know you had Oscar
Speaker 4: Montoya on. Yeah, and uh there talking about dreams, you know,
Speaker 4: dream premonitions, which I've had those pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 4: But the most activity that I had was in my
Speaker 4: house when I was really little, and then that house
Speaker 4: in Wisconsin is when I would have the most dreams.
Speaker 4: And I would have so many dreams about the attic
Speaker 4: of that house and just some sort of presence up there.
Speaker 2: So I didn't.
Speaker 4: Directly experience anything, but just the way that I had
Speaker 4: dreams about that presence. And then I would have like
Speaker 4: those premonition dreams in that location more than I have
Speaker 4: in other locations that I feel like there was definitely
Speaker 4: some kind of energy going on there.
Speaker 1: What's like a premonition dream that you've had, They're so.
Speaker 4: Lame ras like I'll I'll have one where I used
Speaker 4: to work at a fast food taco restaurant up there
Speaker 4: called Taco John's, which is delicious. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you had them when you lived up North Taco john
Speaker 4: Taco Johns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4: It's like a it's like a high end taco bell.
Speaker 4: If that's a thing that can even happen, Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's good. But I worked there and I had this
Speaker 4: dream about a pair of gold wire rim glasses sitting
Speaker 4: on a stack of books on like a mahogany desk,
Speaker 4: and the desk had one of those like vintage desk
Speaker 4: lights that was the green glass with like the black
Speaker 4: glossy base on it, super sleek looking, and the desk
Speaker 4: was super cluttered with a ton of paper, and those
Speaker 4: gold wired room glasses were sitting on a bunch of books.
Speaker 4: And that was my dream, you know, but I just
Speaker 4: remembered it. It stuck with me. And then about a
Speaker 4: week later, our manager comes in and she had a
Speaker 4: customer on the phone and she was like, Hey, has
Speaker 4: anybody seen a pair of glasses? One of our customers
Speaker 4: lost them, and I was like, well, what do they
Speaker 4: look like? And she asked them what they look like,
Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, they're a pair of gold
Speaker 4: wired grim glasses. So I had to dream about that
Speaker 4: customer's glasses. But I couldn't just say, oh, check on
Speaker 4: your desk, you know, because like that would be weird.
Speaker 1: So do you think this customer had a mahogany table
Speaker 1: with a green glass light?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I think I dreamt where they left their glasses for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And that's why I say they're like lame, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can help you find your glasses. Or I had
Speaker 4: a dream about one of my friend's childhood homes and
Speaker 4: I had just met them, you know, when I was
Speaker 4: like seventeen or eighteen, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: had a dream with you in it. Last night. We
Speaker 4: were at this house and it was really weird, and
Speaker 4: I was like describing it top to bottom, and their
Speaker 4: face just went sheet white and they were like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, that's my childhood home.
Speaker 2: You just described it.
Speaker 4: To a tea. Oh. I didn't know them until I
Speaker 4: was seventeen, you know. Interesting, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So it's like you're you're like a psychic, but you
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a reason that you would need
Speaker 1: to know that stuff like.
Speaker 4: No, that's why I'm like. It's like I'm it's like
Speaker 4: when you get a super power and they're like, what's
Speaker 4: your sewer power? And you're like, oh, I can make toast.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's cool, but it's also kind of land.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I bet if you, if you learn to
Speaker 1: hone it, I bet you you could really use it
Speaker 1: for for good and you know it could.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, That's something that has been really interested in practicing. Again.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm at like a good place in
Speaker 4: my life with myself to where practicing that would be
Speaker 4: a smart move, you know, because you know, I went
Speaker 4: through a couple of rough patches and when you do that,
Speaker 4: I don't think like opening yourself up to stuff like
Speaker 4: that is necessarily a good idea. But now I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm in a good place to where exploring that
Speaker 4: again and like you say, trying to hone in on
Speaker 4: it would be a good move. So I've been looking
Speaker 4: into that, you know, maybe like star name with Tara,
Speaker 4: like learning Taro because that really interests me.
Speaker 1: For something, Well, if you get a psychic vision of
Speaker 1: me being in Atlanta, let me know, oh I.
Speaker 4: Will for sure.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house? Is this the world
Speaker 1: famous Melvin?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 1: It is? Wait Melvin? Where are you? Where are you at?
Speaker 2: So I'm in Carrie, North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Yeah, what is the story?
Speaker 2: Okay? So I was asleep. I was at home and
Speaker 2: me and my fiancee now husband working your head, and
Speaker 2: I was having a dream. I was like on Netflix
Speaker 2: and I was looking for a scary movie to watch,
Speaker 2: and I started feeling like someone was watching me or
Speaker 2: looking at me, I don't know, And so like I
Speaker 2: pulled myself out of sleep and I saw like this
Speaker 2: like dark figure just like standing over me, and it
Speaker 2: took me a second to realize what was going on,
Speaker 2: and so like I started to look up the body
Speaker 2: and like try to see the face, but like there
Speaker 2: was nothing there, Like it was just pitch black. And
Speaker 2: as soon as I got to like the face area,
Speaker 2: it turned around and started to walk away, and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I'm just dreaming. And then that's when
Speaker 2: it like drug its fingers down down my left leg
Speaker 2: I think it was, and I just I just completely froze,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what the hell just happened? And
Speaker 2: so I watched it like go around my bed and
Speaker 2: just disappear, and so I was just kind of sitting
Speaker 2: there and didn't really know what to do. And my husband,
Speaker 2: his name is Jeffrey. He does not like to be
Speaker 2: touched when he is asleep, and so I didn't want
Speaker 2: to wake him up or anything. So all I could
Speaker 2: do was like scoot closure to him without bothering him,
Speaker 2: and I just I couldn't go back to sleep. I
Speaker 2: think I was up maybe thirty forty minutes after that,
Speaker 2: and I fell back asleep and got up the next
Speaker 2: morning and he was getting ready for work and I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, so I had this dream. I had
Speaker 2: to like make it seem like it wasn't that big
Speaker 2: of a deal. I was like, I had this dream
Speaker 2: or whatever this thing happened. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: think something touched me, I like, not human. And he
Speaker 2: is very, very skeptical about this stuff. I'm a strong
Speaker 2: believer in it, but he is definitely somebody that is like,
Speaker 2: I don't believe it until I see it. And so
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell him about it and he
Speaker 2: was just like it, okay, Sure.
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 2: Text my best friend who also listens to your podcast,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I need to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Because I know you'll believe me because Jeffrey doesn't believe me.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, that that is the story.
Speaker 1: But wait, so, but the demon wasn't actually a part
Speaker 1: of a dream or the black pep.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. And that's the thing. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was a demon or anything, because me and
Speaker 2: Jeffrey have been living in this house. It's we still
Speaker 2: live in the house almost three years and so the
Speaker 2: house was built in like nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 2: so it's not that old of a house. But an
Speaker 2: elderly couple did live here before us, and I think
Speaker 2: the wife died and I don't know if it is
Speaker 2: her or or something, but I tend to be pretty
Speaker 2: sensitive to stuff like that, and I haven't felt anything.
Speaker 2: And we have two cats and they they don't ever
Speaker 2: freak out and all. But I just I don't know
Speaker 2: what it could have been.
Speaker 1: Honestly, he's did it have Did you get like an
Speaker 1: evel feeling or what was the did you get a
Speaker 1: vibe off of it?
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I didn't get an evil feeling. It was
Speaker 2: just like somebody just watching and it's just like I
Speaker 2: don't feel threatened by you or anything. You just you
Speaker 2: just caught me off guard.
Speaker 1: So but then they were just like, okay, I'm gonna leave,
Speaker 1: but before I did, let me just slide my finger
Speaker 1: down your life.
Speaker 2: I think I know that I was here.
Speaker 1: Here's my theory. I think it was a demon, but
Speaker 1: like a nice demon that was looking for a three way.
Speaker 1: And oh god, they were just staring at you. And
Speaker 1: he's like, are you sure you like what you see?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: You don't, Okay, he's all insecure. He's like, oh god,
Speaker 1: this again. Okay, fine, I'll just leave. But wait, wait,
Speaker 1: let me just slide my finger down. Nope, you're not right. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
Speaker 2: That's my case, just so you know, you know, just
Speaker 2: in case you want to, you know, call me back
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so are you opened this presence coming back into
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: That's a great question, Roz.
Speaker 4: I guess. I guess so.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I wasn't threatened by it. But if
Speaker 2: it comes back, it comes back. If it doesn't, you know,
Speaker 2: I won't live any more sleep over it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I want this presence to visit your husband,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And I thought about that too, because like I said,
Speaker 2: he doesn't believe in this stuff. He he's very, very
Speaker 2: skeptical of a lot of things. And I've always kind
Speaker 2: of been keeping an ear out and kind of watching
Speaker 2: closely because I've always been an observer and I am
Speaker 2: still to this day. But it would be interesting for
Speaker 2: him to have an experience. And I feel like sooner
Speaker 2: or later he will because he married.
Speaker 4: Me, so you know.
Speaker 1: But so are you somebody that you've had bunch of
Speaker 1: experiences like that?
Speaker 2: Oh, not like that, but I have had experiences like
Speaker 2: I went to a I went to Peace College here
Speaker 2: in Raleigh. It used to be an all girls school
Speaker 2: and my class was actually the first co ed class
Speaker 2: to come in in twenty twelve. And so when they
Speaker 2: started building the school in eighteen fifty seven, halfway through,
Speaker 2: the Silver War broke out and so they stopped construction
Speaker 2: of the school itself and turned it into a Confederate hospital.
Speaker 2: So there's all kinds of stuff happening there, like it
Speaker 2: is most definitely haunted, and my friends have had experiences.
Speaker 2: I've had experiences there.
Speaker 1: It's just crawling with all that what's happened.
Speaker 2: So one of my friends, I did theater in college,
Speaker 2: and I still do. I act all around the area.
Speaker 2: And one of my friends who's also an actor, he
Speaker 2: in his room. He said that there was a woman
Speaker 2: that would only come to him at night, and he
Speaker 2: didn't know what she looks like, but he knew what
Speaker 2: she sounded like, and she would always like call his
Speaker 2: name and like talk to him and like all these things,
Speaker 2: and she would keep him up, and it came to
Speaker 2: a point where he was not sleeping at night, so
Speaker 2: he would show up to class and just be a zombie.
Speaker 1: Basically, she would just non stop be saying his name
Speaker 1: all night. Mm hmmm, So all night She's just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Basically, it's like so creepy. So but he
Speaker 2: he never did figure out who it was and it
Speaker 2: eventually stopped. But there was like a month or two
Speaker 2: where he was not sleeping because he this lady would
Speaker 2: not let him sleep.
Speaker 1: That sounds terrible. I don't like this kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that happens in the middle of the night. Did you wait,
Speaker 1: let's go back to you and your three way ghost.
Speaker 1: So yeah, did you do you think it was sleep paralysis?
Speaker 1: Have you had sleep paralysis before?
Speaker 2: I have had sleep paralyss paralysis more times than I
Speaker 2: can count Oh really, yeah, yeah, I have another story
Speaker 2: if we have time, of course, sure, But I don't
Speaker 2: think it was sleep paralysis because I could move. I
Speaker 2: was I could have moved, I should say, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: And I definitely know the difference when I am having
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis because there is that sense. And I think
Speaker 2: you've talked about it before too, that you've had it
Speaker 2: in there you know when you have it, like you
Speaker 2: know when it's happening. So this time, like, it wasn't that,
Speaker 2: And I think it also came along with not feeling
Speaker 2: threatened or anything. But when it was happening, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's it's going down.
Speaker 1: So what usually happens when you have sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2: Usually what happens is like I'll wake up and I
Speaker 2: just I can't move, and like I can look around
Speaker 2: the room and everything. But there is something there, a
Speaker 2: figure which helps me segue into my next story with
Speaker 2: the sleep prolysis. So my second apartment. This was about
Speaker 2: three years ago. I think this was right before me
Speaker 2: and Jeffrey actually started dating. I was living in this
Speaker 2: apartment with a good friend of mine who is also
Speaker 2: an actress, and I was asleep in my room and
Speaker 2: I woke up and I realized I was having a
Speaker 2: sleep prolyssis. I knew it was happening. And in the
Speaker 2: corner of my room was this tall I like get
Speaker 2: chills talking and even thinking about it, this tall, dark figure,
Speaker 2: just dark, just standing in the corner looking at me,
Speaker 2: and I rob I didn't know what to do. I
Speaker 2: just all I could do was just lay there and
Speaker 2: just be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And I just kept like thing is just like,
Speaker 2: please go away, please go away. And like I finally
Speaker 2: managed to like close my eyes and open the back
Speaker 2: up and it was gone.
Speaker 1: But it was it was tall and dark, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I what, what do you think it was
Speaker 1: the same one.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because this one I felt
Speaker 2: threatened by. I definitely got an energy from it that
Speaker 2: it was like watching me in a way that what
Speaker 2: are you doing here?
Speaker 1: I think it was the same one. And he just
Speaker 1: realized that the first time completely failed. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: in the second time, I'm gonna take like a friendly approach.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll like me this way.
Speaker 2: I think broke his le.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because last time I could. I think I
Speaker 1: came up a little too spooky. It sounds like you
Speaker 1: have a type, or like there's a type that's attracted
Speaker 1: to you, which is the maybe maybe gruesome. Wow, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy this has never happened to me. So
Speaker 1: do you do you sleep on your back? Because that's
Speaker 1: the thing I always say, I hear, yeah, sleep on
Speaker 1: you when you see demons.
Speaker 2: So the times that it's happened, yes, I have been
Speaker 2: on my back. I normally sleep on my stomach, like
Speaker 2: face down, which is not good for you, which you
Speaker 2: know causes the wrinkles. But when it happens like I'm
Speaker 2: on my back, and I, like I said, I don't
Speaker 2: normally sleep on my back.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 2: When it's when it happens, I'm on my back every
Speaker 2: single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no good. Like I say, I'll take the wrinkles.
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with demons in my room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to share? These are good stories?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh well my.
Speaker 2: So my parents' house. I'll try to make this a
Speaker 2: quick one. My parents house that they currently live in.
Speaker 2: I believe there's something there too. And I remember when
Speaker 2: I was like sixteen, or seventeen. I was home alone
Speaker 2: and I was watching TV. And where you are in
Speaker 2: the living room, if you look to the left, you
Speaker 2: can look straight through the dining room in the kitchen,
Speaker 2: and I was watching TV and a cup that had
Speaker 2: been sitting on the counter hadn't moved anything flew off
Speaker 2: the counter. And I was like what, And so, of course,
Speaker 2: like I get up and I go and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not even possible. I know, it wasn't near the
Speaker 2: edge of the counter. And I also looked to see
Speaker 2: if there was like maybe condensation, because you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: cups will like slide and the light under them. But
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It just flew off the counter. And so
Speaker 2: I told my parents about it, and they thought, sure, silly, okay,
Speaker 2: teenageer whatever. And so now my sister, who is nineteen,
Speaker 2: she is still at home. She'll she'll go off to
Speaker 2: college next year. She has had some experiences which you know,
Speaker 2: reassures me, Okay, I'm not crazy. There is something going
Speaker 2: on at that house. And like she has had shoes
Speaker 2: fly off the rack and her bathroom she's like hurt stuff.
Speaker 2: There's like on the back of the front door. They
Speaker 2: are like these blinds that make noise whenever you move
Speaker 2: them or open them. And she said, she got up
Speaker 2: around three am, so you'll get some water, and no
Speaker 2: one else was up, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: blind started shaking and she was like, nope, I'm not thirsty,
Speaker 2: and she went back to bed, and so she told
Speaker 2: me about it, and I was like, okay, so there
Speaker 2: probably is something there. So I got to do some
Speaker 2: more investigating with that as well as my house. I
Speaker 2: can absolutely update you on that, but yeah, I who knows.
Speaker 2: I think there's something at that house stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, so do some investigative journalism and check back in
Speaker 1: with me because I'm very curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I most definitely will.
Speaker 1: So LEXI, what are we talking about today? Ouiji boards?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I will just start at the beginning.
Speaker 1: So where are you calling from?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm from Texas. But all of this happened in
Speaker 4: the upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah.
Speaker 4: People say that like Michigan is like a vortex for energy.
Speaker 4: There's just like so many haunted houses and like just
Speaker 4: demons and bad energy, like it's crazy up there.
Speaker 1: Well I never realized this. I had an ex that
Speaker 1: I took back home to Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he
Speaker 1: grew up in California, and he was like, there is
Speaker 1: a church on every single corner, which I didn't realize
Speaker 1: growing up, but now that I've gone back and I
Speaker 1: look around, I'm like, yeah, there's like a lot of
Speaker 1: churches everywhere. So I don't know if that has anything
Speaker 1: to do with that, just like.
Speaker 4: Trying to make up for the fact that there's Beeman's everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think a lot of people that believe
Speaker 1: in that stuff, that believe in like evil.
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, totally. So my grandma lives in this
Speaker 4: house that's like an old mafia house from like back
Speaker 4: in the prohibition days.
Speaker 2: Whoa. So there's like all these.
Speaker 4: Like underground tunnels that have been filled in with dirt,
Speaker 4: so like halfway up the stairs you can like open
Speaker 4: it and there's this like trapdoor that is filled in
Speaker 4: with dirt from like back then. And it's old farm,
Speaker 4: so there's all these like chicken coops and you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't actually a farm, but it was just like
Speaker 4: the remnants of the farm. So my grandma would always
Speaker 4: have like people coming over, like she was she was
Speaker 4: always like helping out homeless people or just like ramblers
Speaker 4: and rollers like whoever would come through. People would just
Speaker 4: stay there with her all the time. So apparently there
Speaker 4: was this one guy who came and he had like
Speaker 4: a Wigi board and it was upstairs. So in the
Speaker 4: upstairs bedrooms, there's one bedroom and then there's a door,
Speaker 4: and then there's another bedroom behind that door, and that's
Speaker 4: where like all of it is. It's like in this
Speaker 4: back bedroom and there's also like a bathroom attached to it.
Speaker 4: So like the story goes that my grandma had to
Speaker 4: like exercise some guy because he was using this Wiji board.
Speaker 4: And eventually I don't know, I don't know if that's
Speaker 4: like true or if that's like whatever some kind of rumor,
Speaker 4: but the Wiji board always stayed like right there above
Speaker 4: the closet in that bedroom. So it was always it
Speaker 4: was like this old wooden, like real deal Wiji board
Speaker 4: and just right above the closet. And my grandma's really religious,
Speaker 4: so I was always I was like, why is this here?
Speaker 1: But wait, so this guy, just some random guy that
Speaker 1: she was like letting stay with her came in with
Speaker 1: a Wigi board and then he got possessed by a demon.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's story. So it all it all went down
Speaker 4: in this closet in this bedroom, is like what I've
Speaker 4: heard from my family, and that's where the Weiedi board
Speaker 4: would stay. And like this closet feels like there's a
Speaker 4: demon in there. So I'm like, it seems I don't
Speaker 4: know whatever the thing is. There was a demon in
Speaker 4: that closet and there was the weigy board above it.
Speaker 4: So growing up, I would like start using it because
Speaker 4: it was just always there. And eventually I was like, well, shoot,
Speaker 4: let's do it without knowing anything about like how to
Speaker 4: manage that kind of stuff. So when we would do it,
Speaker 4: it was crazy, like I've done wody wards before, but
Speaker 4: this one like new things, like it knew like the
Speaker 4: color of our underwear. We would ask around the circle
Speaker 4: and it would know and it said it was in
Speaker 4: the closet. It said it with Lucifer. But I feel
Speaker 4: like that's just like a cocky demon, like we're not
Speaker 4: that lucky talking to like Lucifer and stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that so that was like to be.
Speaker 4: Of like just opening the floodgates. And then ever since
Speaker 4: I used it, I just had all these experiences with demons,
Speaker 4: like i was seriously was like haunted growing up. I
Speaker 4: just was always having experiences.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: And so I lived in this house. This was probably
Speaker 4: the like the pinnacle of it. Like we moved into
Speaker 4: this house and I was just like really high on
Speaker 4: high alert because I was I was doing like witchcrafts
Speaker 4: and stuff. I was doing beady boards. I was just
Speaker 4: like into that kind of stuff as a kid, So
Speaker 4: this stuff was really like attracted to me. So like
Speaker 4: one night I was laying I was like sleeping on
Speaker 4: the couch and I woke up in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night and I see this woman like in this
Speaker 4: yellow Victorian gown, just like sitting in front of me
Speaker 4: in the living room, drinking tea, and she's just staring
Speaker 4: at me. And so I get up. I like rub
Speaker 4: my eyes, rub my eyes and make sure it's real.
Speaker 4: And I look again and she's still there.
Speaker 1: No, that's supposed to work. That works every time I
Speaker 1: know she was there.
Speaker 4: She didn't budge. She just kept staring at me, sipping
Speaker 4: her teeth.
Speaker 1: So there was yeah, wait, but do you think it
Speaker 1: But do you think that that was because you were
Speaker 1: doing all this witchcraft and stuff or do you think
Speaker 1: that that was like a ghost in that specific house.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I think that that might have been a
Speaker 4: different thing. I just think that they were really like
Speaker 4: attracted to me in general. So I was just always
Speaker 4: having these experiences. Oh, I forgot to tell you. So
Speaker 4: after I did the Wigi board at my grandma's house,
Speaker 4: like the night after we did it for the first time,
Speaker 4: I was sleeping in my sister's bedroom and that's the
Speaker 4: one that's like right next to the room that we
Speaker 4: did the Wigi board in. In the middle of the night,
Speaker 4: I wake up and the door knob is just shaking violently,
Speaker 4: like this big glass doorknob like shaking.
Speaker 2: Ew.
Speaker 1: I don't like that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, so let me get back to that house.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 1: So the demon's just like shaking the doorknob, and the
Speaker 1: demon's like you're underwears pink.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, they were just like trying to get through.
Speaker 4: It felt like it honestly felt evil like it it
Speaker 4: was I've never felt anything like it. It was just
Speaker 4: like evil. That's the only way I can explain it.
Speaker 4: Just like violent and malicious. So like this house, like
Speaker 4: doors would like open and shut when I was there,
Speaker 4: Like there was this knock that would happen on my
Speaker 4: bedroom door happened on my door, and then I would look,
Speaker 4: no one's there, And then like a couple minutes later,
Speaker 4: it would knock, but it would be inside the door,
Speaker 4: and then the knocks would just get closer and closer
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: Wait, which house is this now?
Speaker 4: Sorry, this is the other house that I lived in.
Speaker 4: This is like this is just another general ghost story.
Speaker 4: I guess I got a.
Speaker 1: Little thrown off with the with the tea Is this
Speaker 1: the house with the tea drinking lady?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's that house.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she would drink tea and she would knock
Speaker 1: on the walls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just like knock and get close certain
Speaker 4: closer to me. I would be doing the dishes and
Speaker 4: I would just feel like breathing on my neck. It
Speaker 4: was literally every time I was alone in that house,
Speaker 4: something would happen, like every single time. So it got
Speaker 4: to the point where I would just when I got
Speaker 4: home from school, I would just like grab the phone
Speaker 4: and sit on the curb and I just wouldn't go
Speaker 4: inside till my parents got home.
Speaker 1: I just I would not go How old was the house?
Speaker 4: It wasn't even like an old house. It was like
Speaker 4: just like a normal house.
Speaker 1: What sounds like that lady was like when did you
Speaker 1: say she was wearing Victorian clothes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was like in a Victorian dress. And I've
Speaker 4: never understood that because I felt like it was demonic,
Speaker 4: like all the things that just because of the Ouiji
Speaker 4: board and all that stuff, and that's weird like ghosts.
Speaker 4: That was like a different thing. I don't know what
Speaker 4: that was. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could have been a demon that was
Speaker 1: costplaying the Victorian. Yeah, yeah, sure, why not. I wear
Speaker 1: costumes all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I always have dreams so like still to
Speaker 4: this day, I'll have dreams about being in my grandma's
Speaker 4: house and there's a demon like chasing me, like all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Is that house like still in the family.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she still lives there, So.
Speaker 1: What does she have to say about it?
Speaker 4: She Honestly, I never understood why that weed war was
Speaker 4: in there. She never talked about it. One time I
Speaker 4: lived there for a while and I just asked her
Speaker 4: to throw it in the dumpster and she did it,
Speaker 4: but she didn't really say much about it.
Speaker 1: Oh so she knows she got rid of it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 4: Was living there, and I was like, Okay, we're not
Speaker 4: going to keep doing this, like we're gonna get rid
Speaker 4: of those things. And yeah, she threw it away, but
Speaker 4: I've never really I guess I never really talked to
Speaker 4: her about it for some reason.
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that the demon's gone, no,
Speaker 1: I think, well, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's I don't know, it's still somewhere in my
Speaker 4: brain because I have these dreams where like I'm just
Speaker 4: getting chased around and I'm just stuck in the house.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I have another story too that Okay,
Speaker 4: let's hear it. Okay, So my friend, my best friend
Speaker 4: growing up, she lived in this plot of land that
Speaker 4: used to be a town called Atkinson, like back in
Speaker 4: the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: So there was like all these pits of like old
Speaker 2: shoes and clothes.
Speaker 4: And like houses were like buried underground for some reason,
Speaker 4: and we would like dig up, like in the summer.
Speaker 4: We would just like dig and find these like houses.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what happened there.
Speaker 1: But what do you mean that you'd find a house underground?
Speaker 4: Like there was house So there was like chimneys that
Speaker 4: were on the ground.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Then you would dig and there would be houses like
Speaker 4: you could just dig bricks and bricks and bricks.
Speaker 1: Whoa, wait, where is this.
Speaker 4: This isn't Michigan. It's in a town called Iron River.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Okay, So like that house, that's where we started doing
Speaker 4: like witchcraft and stuff and just kind of like like spells,
Speaker 4: like we would just do like as kids, we would
Speaker 4: just be doing spells or whatever. But one night I
Speaker 4: was sleeping in the living room and she was asleep,
Speaker 4: like in the recliner across the room, and it was
Speaker 4: Christmas time. So I'm like laying there, I'm not asleep yet,
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at this ornament that's on the Christmas tree,
Speaker 4: like at the bottom of the Christmas tree. And then
Speaker 4: it started swinging back and forth. And then so I
Speaker 4: looked away, and through like my peripherals, I could see
Speaker 4: that it stopped moving, and then I would look back
Speaker 4: and it would start swinging again, and then I'd look
Speaker 4: away and it would stop, and then I'd look back,
Speaker 4: and so finally I decided to just keep staring at
Speaker 4: it to see what would happen. And it starts swinging
Speaker 4: like back and forth, back and forth, super fast and
Speaker 4: it flies off the Christmas tree into the middle of
Speaker 4: the room.
Speaker 1: Weird, I know, so, But now was that because of
Speaker 1: your witchcraft or what was that all about.
Speaker 4: I kind of think that I was just like a
Speaker 4: mess as a kid, Like I was just into all
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff all the time. So I think that
Speaker 4: I was just like susceptible to whatever wanted to show
Speaker 4: itself to me.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean if you don't know, like, how
Speaker 1: were you learning about these spells? Did you like go
Speaker 1: to the library and just like check out a book
Speaker 1: or didn't like.
Speaker 4: Well, her sister had a book. Her sister had a
Speaker 4: book that we would do. One time, I did a
Speaker 4: spell to like get a boy to kiss me.
Speaker 1: Did it work?
Speaker 4: I had to get I had to get a blade
Speaker 4: of grass from his front lawn. It works. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: kissed me like two days later.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I want that spell. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if you i'm I don't. I actually don't know much
Speaker 1: about witchcraft, at least not in like I don't know
Speaker 1: much about like the the kind that can attract dark
Speaker 1: to your life. But I feel like if you're not
Speaker 1: doing it right, you could end up with a Christmas
Speaker 1: bulb flying across the room.
Speaker 4: Right, Like we were just stupid kids just doing Wigi boards.
Speaker 4: Like they say, you're supposed to say goodbye after you
Speaker 4: do the Wiji board. We never said goodbye. Well, so
Speaker 4: we didn't do like we were not doing it right.
Speaker 4: So I think that it was just like all.
Speaker 2: Sorts of stuff just yeah.
Speaker 1: See, I recently learned that like you all have to
Speaker 1: lift your hands at the same time when you're doing
Speaker 1: a Wiji board or else that can like I don't know,
Speaker 1: open things up and stuff like I don't really I
Speaker 1: don't know, but there's definitely like ways of doing it
Speaker 1: that you got to know what you're doing.
Speaker 4: I know, I wish that I would have like looked back,
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't make I would just be bored in
Speaker 4: my room and I wouldn't make a Wigi board out
Speaker 4: of paper with like a CD. I would just like
Speaker 4: use the CD. I just being an animal, like a
Speaker 4: wild animal about it. I was so interested because I
Speaker 4: knew that it was real, and I knew that like
Speaker 4: I would be able to talk to someone and that
Speaker 4: it that it would actually happen. So it was really exciting,
Speaker 4: but it ended up just like seriously haunting me. For
Speaker 4: so long, like years and years and years. Wow. And
Speaker 4: I finally just like I got so irritated by just
Speaker 4: being scared all the time that I was just I
Speaker 4: decided to just not be scared anymore and to just
Speaker 4: start like yelling at them like I would.
Speaker 2: I would just be like.
Speaker 4: Fuck you, like you're not scaring me. Go away, I
Speaker 4: live here, you don't even live on this plane, like
Speaker 4: you can't do anything. And I would just vocalize this
Speaker 4: whenever I got scared and just act tough. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of what did it. Like I
Speaker 4: just stopped giving it energy and stopped feeding into the fear.
Speaker 4: And I really haven't had like anything happened to me
Speaker 4: in years. So I think I've gained power.
Speaker 1: Over That's amazing because I feel like these probably these
Speaker 1: dark and es are probably like, oh, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: this girl, and then they're like and then you're like
Speaker 1: fuck you. And then they're like, oh, okay, fine, like
Speaker 1: you're no.
Speaker 4: Fun, bruise their ego a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh gosh, I thought it was being scary. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on to the next one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, But I mean everyone should do that,
Speaker 4: like if, like if you're scared, because my aunt told
Speaker 4: me once. I don't know if this is true, but
Speaker 4: it's really helped me. She told me that like angels
Speaker 4: and good beings, they can read your thoughts, but sad
Speaker 4: ones can't read your thoughts. So if you just pretend,
Speaker 4: even if you're like scared shitless in your head, if
Speaker 4: you just don't give any of that off, then they can't.
Speaker 4: They can't like feed off your fear.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, I'll keep that next time.
Speaker 4: It might help you. But you know, it might just
Speaker 4: be psychological, but that helps too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's good advice. I'll keep it in mind. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go find a blade of grass and
Speaker 1: my crushes lawn. So thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. These are some good stories. Well
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